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>> No.33231390
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.33231416
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>34,041: Miko (Hololive)
>26,197: Toya (Nijisanji)
>24,492: Voltaction (Nijisanji)
>23,734: Gura (Hololive)
>20,698: Lamy (Hololive)
>20,267: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,800: Mio (Hololive)
>19,081: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>18,834: Beni (VSPO)
>17,263: Lize (Nijisanji)
>16,867: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,216: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,798: Ina (Hololive)
>15,096: Runa (VSPO)
>14,843: Botan (Hololive)
>14,471: Furen (Nijisanji)
>14,394: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,224: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,230: Nene (Hololive)
>11,707: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,756: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,626: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,532: Chloe (Hololive)

>> No.33231438

>>33231290
Minimum : 30k
Expected : 50k
Kneel territory : 70k

>> No.33231453

>>33231290
If its actually miku and they advertise it in advance I could honestly see it go up to 150-170k.
If no then 80-120k.

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*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *

>9/14 Daily Tally
23,664: Gura (Hololive)
15,798: Ina (Hololive)
10,618: Fauna (Hololive)
9,745: Mysta (Nijisanji)
8,328: Shu (Nijisanji)
8,320: Ike (Nijisanji)
5,388: Baelz (Hololive)
5,014: Enna (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER
1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)
2. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)
3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)
5. Vox (Nijisanji) – 25,137 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)
12. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,560 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
13. Amelia (Hololive) - 32,545 (Myth 2nd Year Anniversary)
14. Gura (Hololive) - 23,667 (2 year anniversary)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 12
Nijisanji - 2
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
5x: Gura
2x: Baelz
1x: Yugo, Noir, Vox, Kiara, Ina, IRyS, Amelia

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Gura: 25
Baelz: 16
Ina: 8
IRyS: 7
Amelia: 7
Mumei: 7
Vox: 7
Shu: 6
Mysta: 6
Yugo: 5
Noir: 5
Kiara: 5
Fauna: 5
Enna: 4
Alban: 3
Regis: 3
Mori: 3
Petra: 3
Luca: 1

>> No.33231471

>>33231290 #
170k minimum 220k-250k max

>> No.33231476

>>33231438
minimum is at least 50k, even gura's karaoke got 38k

>> No.33231494

>>33231290
66k

>> No.33231516

stop talking about the collab ban retards, just let it die. nobody cares

>> No.33231517

>>33231438
No, i'm a chumbud and even I won't set the guesses that low. She'll blow those out easy.
80k floor. 100k good. 120k+ kneel.
If they announce Miku ahead of time? Weird unprecedented territory, 140k+

>> No.33231521

>>33231471
I could see it going that high if they actually announce that its miku. But if they dont i think 110k might be the ceiling.

>> No.33231528

>>33231453
>advertise it in advance
That boat already sailed, the live is in 3 days, no?

>> No.33231542

>>33231453
realistically how many days in advance can they put it out when she isn't even featured on the thumbnail?

why wouldn't they do the mystery silhouette thing like the Peko live?

I really hope for her live viewership sake it's not Miku this year if they're gonna do this poor a job of mystery-hyping it

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>>33231290
80k minimum, 100k-110k max.

>> No.33231551

>>33231438
She has a chance of 100k since there is hype

>> No.33231566

>>33231476
True, maybe I was overcorrecting for the EN recline.
Hmm...
>>33231517
I suppose if the minimum is at 50k, it's probably more accurate -
Minimum : 50k
Expected : 70k
Kneel Territory : 100k+
sounds about right?

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>>33231183
how could you hate a face like this?

>> No.33231586

>>33231516
No, why should we stop?

>> No.33231589

>>33231516
nijiseethe

>> No.33231591

Y'all think it's Miku, but my bet would be a special video package with Tatsuro Yamashita

>> No.33231594

>>33231528
>>33231542
Maybe waiting for Friday night to shill it to full effect? I remember an reading an article about how friday night commercial slots were always the ones that were contested back when cable tv was a thing.

>> No.33231598

>>33231551
100k is a huge threshold to clear, one that an EN graduation failed.

>> No.33231599


holosus

>> No.33231624
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reminder Rye is /here/ and acknowledges the schizo meaning she isnt EN3 if there was any copers after those recent streams somehow.

>> No.33231630

>>33231551
100k+ means its a success
below 100k means it flopped
at least that what i think

>> No.33231637

>>33231438
That minimum is too low damn

>> No.33231643

>>33231591
I mean jesus christ, they'd have to advertise that. I'd run TV ads for that so all the boomers tune in. You can't have that be a surprise during the live

>> No.33231673

>>33231624
Are there any vtubers that aren't /here/

>> No.33231681

>>33231630
I agree. Her median ccv isn't much lower than first army so she should be able to get 100k.

>> No.33231684

>>33231591
I still think its gonna be a duet with Dante where theyll sing unforgettable by nat king cole.

>> No.33231694

>>33231630
I think this is pretty fair desu

>> No.33231697

>>33231673
My oshi

>> No.33231701

>>33231673
yes hololive

>> No.33231703

>>33231643
>You can't have that be a surprise during the live
*LAUGHS IN EN*

>> No.33231724

>>33231290
Minimum: 65k
Expected: 90k
Kneel: 120k

>> No.33231732

>>33231630
I'm gonna guess 80k on this one. Morning JST is pretty bad for weebs.

>> No.33231733

>>33231591
She gets shit like that with Dante VA and shit, that'll be a disspointment. Gura is more of a fan of Miku than he is and she was absolutely hyped and stuttering to announce it

>> No.33231736

>>33231701
R-Risu…

>> No.33231752

>>33231701
Nah lots of ENs are here occasionally and Mori is here more than is healthy. Probably Ame too.
On the JP side obviously not but we have on-screen proof that they're the JP equivalent of /here/

>> No.33231754

Sometimes I feel like /we/ forget that memes = numbers. If you don't create memes then you don't create numbers.

>> No.33231755
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>yfw the special guest is going to be notsana

>> No.33231761

>>33231673
they're all /here/ because of twitter containment breakers
even if they don't post, they've seen your cringe posts

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Gura concert won't even get 100k and I'll laugh my ass off. Can't wait because I have a massive collection of globaltards saying Gura getting 200k for her first 3D is guaranteed ready to grudgepost with

>> No.33231803

>>33231754
Is this about Ame King? If so yes I agree

>> No.33231810
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Maria, the only Iluna girl who isn't a complete flop, what can she do to incline into consistent 2k shitter? Managed to keep most of the raid so people seem to like her. She's carried by her design and voice/accent, but she still hasn't really found her niche. Everyone in NijiEN can draw, she's not special in that regard despite spamming drawing streams.

>> No.33231822

I wonder what would happen to this board if Sana joined NijiEN

>> No.33231840
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>>33231736
>Risu
You think someone with these opinion browse 4chan?

>> No.33231858

>>33231800
no shot this even comes close to 200k.
climax had damn near every single holomem and only barely managed to scrape 200k during sss.

>> No.33231860

I wonder, if Miku is still pretty big, why has no vtuber company tried to collab with Miku? I rememeber Kizuna Ai did it once, but no one else ever tries.

>> No.33231871

>>33231803
I thought it was about Mumei Dan Dan

>> No.33231872

>>33231800
>2021
I'd predict 200k too back then but holoen has reclined this year.

>> No.33231874

Le funny fennec on the telly. 10k+ stream

>> No.33231879

>>33231840
She's a clussy poster

>> No.33231885

>>33231800
Get ready to get grudgeposted when she reaches 100k faggot.

>> No.33231887

>>33231810
what was her pl schtick back then? wash she the cosplayer? she could always do costume design streams if thats the case.

>> No.33231892

>>33231810
Her best draw is her singing, but even that is terrible

>> No.33231915

>>33231840
>this much redpilled
Yes
>>33231860
Isn't that because it's kind of equivalent to asking for a collab with Mickey Mouse?

>> No.33231932

Damn son. I'm like Thanos collecting infinity stones with the Tempus gift memberships landing on my lap left and right.

>> No.33231939

>>33231858
It ain't the same youtube as the past, we know they've fucked with the CCV stuff even more since mid 2021. We'll never know what streams could have been huge. HoloSummer climax probably was above 194k, I'd bet my entire penis and ballsack on it. But we can't prove it.

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I now understand the obsession with VR

>> No.33231956

>>33231932
>watching homos
go back to /MANS/

>> No.33231981

>>33231939
Er?
The climax live hit over 200k CCV AND was recorded, anon....

>> No.33231982

>>33231290
Minimum: 55k
Expectation: 65~75k
Kneel: over 80k
OH NO NO NO NIJIBROS it's fucking over: 100k
HoloEN is fucking dead: below 55k
I based this on AmeSame last offcollab karaoke

>> No.33231990

>>33231952
Explain further bros? Ryza 3 is on VR?

>> No.33231991

>>33231952
Is that the youngest version? The oldest one's thighs almost double the thickness

>> No.33232006

>>33231981
Uh ok I forget the actual CCV but whatever, my point is, it was probably more than that. Same goes for all big events in the vtubing sphere.

>> No.33232009

>>33231810
Aia and Scarle might not have found it on CCV, but both of them are mogging the rest in SC. It makes a stronger case for them imo as it gives more money
that said, in terms of ccv Kyo, Ren, Maria and sometimes Aster are in there, and thats why i call iluna a success, because only two are doing worse, similar to ranunculus where only one is doing terrible

>> No.33232037

One of the least popular males in JP 3D next week. he was one of the ones announced for nijife
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1570321624473423874?t=UjRRhlUVXfKuO1xdnzh6iw&s=19

>> No.33232054

>>33231290
Floor might be 50k but it should get 70-80k. Going over 80k is good 90k is kneel and 100 would be holojp 1st army going by the offcollabs numbers.

>> No.33232064

>>33232006
Anon, come on now, these things aren't even hard to doublecheck. Still, yea, CCV is fucky and has been since December 2020, and even moreso after December 2021.

>> No.33232069

>>33232037
50k max. Literally who

>> No.33232071

>>33231932
I think the more apt comparison would be a San Francisco homo collecting STDs.

>> No.33232076

>>33232037
It looks so low quality already. Good for him I guess. This is a 1 in a lifetime chance he does this.

>> No.33232084

>>33231438
The real problem is we dont know how the numbers will be culled so she has another barely 20K stream with well over 100K views the second it ended that didnt last long enough to argue "It was people checkin in and out"

>> No.33232097

>>33231990
Yes anon, TGSVR, multiple poses
>>33231991
not knowledgeable of the franchise, but it's Ryza 3

>> No.33232105

Any update about Among Us x Hololive? It's so quiet.

>> No.33232114

>>33232054
Consider, Gura's surprise fucking kanuru shit hit 60k+ and was still climbing. A proper 3d live that's advertised with Guests will at minimum hit 60k. There is simply 0 chance it gets less unless youtube smites Gura's channel/connection.

>> No.33232116

>>33232069
Id give him 60k max since njifes tourist might be inclined to check him out.

>> No.33232152

>>33232114
If Cover knows what's good for them they won't have Gura actually be streaming that live from her personal PC. Gotta be from the office where they surely have a very serious business-tier connection.

>> No.33232179

>>33231860
>why has no vtuber company tried to collab with Miku?
Wasn’t Sora with Miku on that Mikukand opening she participated?

>> No.33232180

Despite having almost 200 members, Anykara is still giving almost all Niji members 3D models. Isn't that kind of a waste?

>> No.33232190

>>33232114
i takes 2hrs for en audience to get past the verification. if the live is 1hr, it's all down to jops/kops showing up live

>> No.33232197

peko not stream again?

>> No.33232198

>>33232180
Yeah they should fast-track their best performers. Luxiem and Salome should be front of the line.

>> No.33232220

>>33232114
>Another Gura vid ends with 30K CCV and 250K views immediately after for an hour and a half runtime

>> No.33232222

>>33232180
Because Cover being slow as shit for everyone but JPs has led you to believe the issue is cost and not a case of them not giving a shit about sidebranches.

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>>33232069
He used to be on VOIZ along with Kei and one other dude I forgot.
Also he used to look like this

>> No.33232294

>>33231566
You see more correct the first time. There is literally no precedent for it to do those numbers.

Minimum: 15k
Expected: 25k
Kneel: 50k
Tops

>> No.33232300

The surprise guest is the appearance of senzawa.

>> No.33232303

>>33232190
>>33232220
Shut up shut up shut up!

>> No.33232310

>>33232197
She usually put her frame 1hr-2hr before she strea.

>> No.33232316

>>33232179
Yeah, she did a shill Collab with Miku

>> No.33232317

Man, the rate of Hololive concert has dropped significantly. I remember in 2020 and 2021, there were two full-company concerts. It seems like there's only one this year with just HoloFes3.
It kinda sucks.

>> No.33232330

>>33232222
Retard-bro, this is not about side branches.
May I remind you that there is still SEED member that doesn't have 3D

>> No.33232343

>>33232294
anon, even shit tier holos like Choco break 50k for their 3d lives
not hitting that would be career death

>> No.33232362

>>33232037
>Joined May 27, 2018
>120K subscribers
>9,671,593 views
3D debut out of pity

>> No.33232365

>>33232317
The only 3d live i like this year was the gura kanauru 3D live. They worked hard on that.

>> No.33232372

>>33232317
Why would the do multiple company concerts? The members are doing sololives at a faster rate than what hololive can do by itself

>> No.33232379

>>33232330
Dumbass, only Tamago Inuzaki from Niji SEED is the one left not having a 3D debut.

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>>33232379
>Tamago Inuzaki
Okay I laughed.

>> No.33232414

>>33232317
Cover probably gains more by using its own studio so the talents can rent it with their own pocket anyway.

>> No.33232420

>>33232362
No their company policy is whoever got to 100k subs will be in a 3D queue. And that queue is fucking long so I believe Riku is speedrunning all the shitter 3D to get to Luxiem

>> No.33232423

>>33232317
Are you forgetting the Sololives and constant 3d bday/anniversary lives from a lot of talents that have a lot of guests itself?

>> No.33232428

>>33231598
Said EN graduation was a member who was absent for 50% of her entire career and was the literal midget of Hololive almost as a whole. The fact that she got 99k CCV despite having had a very limited presence is astonishing and a testament to the Holobox.

>> No.33232439

>>33232037
oh hey, it's the guy that collabs with aruran ever so often. good for him.

>> No.33232462

>>33232428
At 200sub hell and not in JP primetime to boot

>> No.33232464

>>33232317
They dropped the 2nd concert in exchange for more sololives. 2021 alone had 2. And this year we had Suisei, Mori and now Okayu. Towa will soon announce hers. 2023 is game changer though; less coof restriction, all of en in 3D.

>> No.33232473

>>33232428
I don't think hololive will ever produce a bigger failure than sana.

>> No.33232481

>>33231752
>Ame
The one who wants to be Ollie2.0!?!?!?

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>>33231598
Fuck you

>> No.33232497

>>33232473
I liked Sana especially in her last month but she was a terrible scouting failure. Never hire another over-subscribed chinese gacha artist ever again, Cover.

>> No.33232510

Rosemi is going to be a MC/Tour guide for TGS
https://tgs.nikkeibp.co.jp/tgs/2022/jp/contents/online.html
>>33232379
>>33232222
>>33232180
Anycolor still has 100k milestone to give you a 3D, so its based on that, not on debut. Cover abandoned this years ago so on their case its based n debut. its a bit different

>> No.33232512

>>33232464
Sora is having a Sololive as well.

>> No.33232523

>>33232473
What counts as a failure? Because I think the ones who never even got a chance to do a delivery (Hitomi Chris, Aloe) tops everyone

>> No.33232531

>>33232464
Don't forget ID. Risu Sololive at Indog capital stadium soon

>> No.33232536

>>33232491
I don’t know exactly what you think you’re showing but you need you JP reps done because it says 96k peak there

>> No.33232543

>>33232497
Gotta agree, leave the full-time artists as contractors and not chubbas for Hololive. Ina is literally a one-in-a-million find for how fast she can draw at a professional level, you're unlikely to find someone who can manage to squeeze as much as she can in as little time as she does ever again.

>> No.33232549

>>33231598
will Pomu graduation get 100k in the future?

>> No.33232550

>>33232510
Damn, not even HoloEN is considered for the tour guide position.

>> No.33232569

>>33232464
Aqua sololive

>> No.33232603

>>33232510
>rsmi
why? even the flesh streamer only has 44k followers on twitch, could have went for TT

>> No.33232611

>>33232362
>>33232420
they are speedrunning even before luxiem existed anon. look at how many debuted their 3D in 2020/2021
>>33232510
Rosemi huh, good for her. Gamescom picked Alban, TGS picked Rosemi.. nijien inclining

>> No.33232612

>>33232510
>https://tgs.nikkeibp.co.jp/tgs/2022/jp/contents/online.html
>vtuber (liver)
kek

>> No.33232613

https://twitter.com/VTuberHistorian/status/1570271426271399938?s=20&t=I07gU_4VmS__EXhc7UP8Rg
Is this dude an actual nousagi or not?

>> No.33232615

>>33232510
can't wait to see what rosemi says for the cover booth or aqua's VN.

>> No.33232621

What is the biggest Hololive sololive in terms of venue?

>> No.33232631
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>>33232464
Moom and Fauna 3D!!!

>> No.33232635

>>33232523
I wonder if modern-day Cover could handle the Aloe situation better.
Hitomi Chris was maybe too much and too yab but, I dunno, gotta think aloe might have been saved

>> No.33232642

>>33232523
Probably Chris considering she's been literally expunged from Hololive history. At least Aloe can be considered a footnote and is referenced in fan works and Nene.

>> No.33232649

>>33232615
Oh shit, yes

>> No.33232661

>>33232631
>Fauna 3D
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>> No.33232667

>>33232631
3d of 2 failures? never happening

>> No.33232668

>>33232631
Fauna 3D live with Noel as a guest. Let's go!

>> No.33232673

Why did TGS invite NijiEN as their MC? What about HoloJP?

>> No.33232690

>>33232673
>Rosemi
Affordable

>> No.33232695

>>33232667
Even IOFI gets 3D concert
Why not Fauna and Moom??
>This is not Nijisanji BTW

>> No.33232709

>>33232668
>Kejo battle between Fauna and Noel that is just an excuse for boob rubbing and dry humping in cowkinis

>> No.33232714

>>33232631
moom would probably faint in her 3d live with how autistic she is

>> No.33232751

>>33232714
Yo mean because staff would be looking at her do moom things?

>> No.33232759

>>33232709
200k floor

>> No.33232764

>>33232709
Except only one of these live up to their artistic representation IRL.
It would just be Noel smothering Fauna

>> No.33232777

Can Lazulight hold 3D lives in the future like Gura? Or since they're not idols, they aren't allowed to do that?

>> No.33232781

>>33231810
anon if she can only get 2k because of a couple of raids she is a complete flop, Council never gets that low and that hasn't stopped Flopgur and his simpering horde from claiming they are

>> No.33232794

>>33232668
>Fauna 3D live
You mean
>Lamy 3D live

>> No.33232797

>>33232673
>Rosemi
low collab fee

>> No.33232810

>>33231932
it's actually really easy to collect them with how much the ladies hand them out during streams

>> No.33232817

>>33232777
They don't live in Japan and they don't have an Ame on their ranks. They are also not friends, so they won't help each other

>> No.33232820

>>33232764
you have the 3d showing noel and fauna battling when you know that in reality is noel smothering a gura-like. 300k floor

>> No.33232822

>>33232777
They are going in the idol route more and more so it might be the case.

>> No.33232826

>>33232817
they have Shoe which is better than Ame 1000x because he's a MAN

>> No.33232835

ollie is 3view now?

>> No.33232838

>>33232777
If JPs can't, then there's no chance. A variety show skit with lots of the other ENs like they're doing now is 100%

>> No.33232844

>>33232820
Cover them both in baby oil first. 400k.

>> No.33232845

>>33232777
why do you guys always make those retarded questions?
>>33232615
Funny of you thinking they will even show it.
anyway, Selen stream will begin in just a few minutes with MS conference and is going for hours

>> No.33232848

So what is the potential guests for Gura live? We can at least expect Umisea, maybe Suisei, Okayu, Shion. All big number attraction

>> No.33232867

>>33232037
Where is Hisui's 3D Anykaraaaaaaaaaa

>> No.33232866

>>33232826
Would he actually do the work needed to set up a home 3d studio? Would he invite the other members to his home?

>> No.33232868

>>33232764
>Noel smothering Fauna
H-hot…

>> No.33232872

>>33232848
pekora would be amazing, but the rust stuff probably started way too late into the planning process for her to even be an option.

>> No.33232873

Didn't some retard doxx Fauna before? She didn't show her face, but the body shape is rather thin.

>> No.33232883

>>33232844
god damn might beat coco graduation at this rate

>> No.33232884

>>33232822
No, they aren't going in "idol route". Units have been a thing happening under Nijisanji since Raindrops became a thing and concerts since 2018. Most of what is current in anycolor have been things happening years ago.

>> No.33232890

>>33232844
It doubles as ASMR pampering and heartbeat, 500k floor and japan birthrate drops another 0,5%

>> No.33232894

>>33232848
Yep, peko and Miko are possibilities. Gura would invite Aki

>> No.33232899

>>33232884
So what is the different between unit and idol? They sing, dance and do similar shit, right?

>> No.33232902

>>33232873
every holoEN has been doxxed before i think

>> No.33232908

>>33232873
she described herself as a twig in one of her recent MC streams too.

>> No.33232912

>>33232835
>now?
you know why no one talks about it?

>> No.33232918

>>33232884
nobody said they didnt have idol units anon
they might be leaning more and more into idol stuff though considering most of their en are in idol groups compared to jp where they had to form them later

>> No.33232926

>>33232872
Pekora is a hard guest to have, and not like she is that much of a number magnet in 3D live
But if Gura managed to summon the JP blue women I will kneel, all of them actually been interacting with each other more than usual lately (mostly in Rust)

>> No.33232928

GURA GOLD GURA GOLD GURA GOLD GURA GOLD
NijiEN status????!!!!!!

>> No.33232929

subs for the sub 1 mill people seem to have slowed down in the last week, wonder if there's something going on

>> No.33232933

>>33232667
It's time to let it go flopgur

>> No.33232935

>>33232873
She's a vegan. We already could assume she was a stick

>> No.33232943

>>33232884
Difference is that they had to form it in nijijp while in nijien they have it grouped already.

>> No.33232953

>>33232918
The more I see it, the more Paul is trying to emulate Hololive with NijiEN.

>> No.33232966

>>33232884
yeah, and that's why Mayuzumi left

>> No.33232989

>>33232953
gee, the fact that they debuted as hololive lite didn't tip you off?

>> No.33232990

>>33232966
He was an idiot anyway. Without Nijisanji, good luck finding somewhere that will accept his weird ideas.

>> No.33233001

peko frame for 9

>> No.33233005

>>33232966
Im surprised insider anon was right on that one considering he said all of this before luxiem debuted.

>> No.33233007

>>33232990
nijiniggers truly are corporate cocksuckers

>> No.33233017

ID Hologra when?

>> No.33233018

>>33232990
Yagoo: Welcome Kei-kun

>> No.33233036

>>33232953
Was.
They abandoned the strategy eventually. Which was smart on their part, it turned out. Can't just copy a good product with a discount version, have to have your own brand differentiators.

>> No.33233050

>>33233017
Next week possibly

>> No.33233053

>>33232990
Anon, he doesn’t need it, he’s financially independent.
He was there, like Noel, for his self fulfillment. When it stopped being fulfilling for him he bailed.

He didn’t lose anything because what he was searching there no longer exists

>> No.33233054

>>33232990
Man, if only there was a saviorfag that cares for his male talents....

>> No.33233074

>>33233036
Funny how Riku is now the one transitioning the company into a more idol-centric.

>> No.33233096

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f_LwO9wKK0
300K in 9 hours

>> No.33233102

>>33233096
I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING I HATE KING

>> No.33233104

>>33233096
Bretty good, looking forward to the next covers video where she should place very well

>> No.33233103

>>33232966
I still think that is a retarded reason to leave

>> No.33233117

SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cvN-A9c458

>> No.33233120

>>33233036
>They abandoned the strategy eventually
Seeing as how Iluna debuted with a song i dont think they abandoned it just yet.

>> No.33233125

>>33233017
didn't they already have something like that?

>> No.33233127

>>33233074
Shareholders know where the money lies.

>> No.33233134

>>33232990
Mayuzumi lives and breathes for trpg though. He’s probably out there doing trpg collabs with some of his old trpg buddies

>> No.33233147

I would fucking laugh if Yagoo's charisma manages to convine Mayazumi to join his Stars project.

>> No.33233155

>>33233103
Why would he stay if he was disliking it?

>> No.33233159

>>33233096
Jesus, this was blessed by the algorithm

>> No.33233160

>>33233036
just like the legion of "wow killers" that failed to kill wow by just being "Like wow, but with X"

>> No.33233177

>>33233096
still doubt it hits a million this week but we'll see if it has legs

>> No.33233179

>>33233096
ALL HAIL THE KING

>> No.33233180

>>33232635
Aloe's situation is still too much to handle for any current chuuba corpo.
>Deadbeat stepdad leech
>Housewife mom who took forever to do anything, also possibly a leech
>Aloe also had a bad case of depression
Her debuting in say HoloX would unironically be worse since not only is she going to be even more scrutinized now, but her parents (especially kusodad) would squeeze every yen they can from her. Being a HoloJP (or any holo really) is like winning the lottery. And we know how shitty relatives act when something like that happens.

>> No.33233186

>>33233147
Mayuzumi hates idolstuff so yagoo would need to be a pretty good talker to convince him.

>> No.33233193

>>33233147
Maybe as staff, but he will not join as a star

>> No.33233217

>>33233180
>And we know how shitty relatives act when something like that happens
Risu...

>> No.33233232

>>33233217
Qrd?

>> No.33233256

>>33233217
Reine should set up a holohouse for her branchmates where they can get out of the ghettos and away from all the cousins and uncles and aunties with palms extended. It's too hard out there in the real, serious slums

>> No.33233257

Bro...I cannot give a damn about number anymore...please Niji put up an actual fight for once before I actually stopped caring

>> No.33233273

>>33233232
It's pretty self explaining. Risu make a shit ton of money.

>> No.33233284

>>33233232
lets just say there was a reason she wasn't streaming much last year

>> No.33233289

I feel like modern-day Hololive feels similar to past Nijisanji. Aside from being strict with permissions, Hololive talents are free to stream however they like. The staff is also pretty supportive and hands-off most of the time.

>> No.33233296

>>33233232
Basically what anon said, risu getting into hololive was like winning the lottery.

>> No.33233304

>>33233256
>all the cousins and uncles and aunties with palms extended
Oh shit! The "Suddenly Relatives", just like the Milk Dad huh!?!?

>> No.33233315

second blue woman singing + announcement stream of the day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zd5C_6jMQ4

>> No.33233331

>>33233232
NTA but the rrat is that Risu was having issues with her parents in regards to money afew months ago, hence her erratic behaviour (more than usual at least). Still just a rrat but as a SEAnig myself, shit like that tends to be common.

>> No.33233335

>>33233232
whenever you get big money magical relatives suddenly appear from thin air and it was the same case for risu.

>> No.33233342

>>33233102
he's the only hope for nijis...

>> No.33233355

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1570333572007079941?s=20&t=I07gU_4VmS__EXhc7UP8Rg
He's home

>> No.33233365

>>33233315
gold

>> No.33233374

>>33233355
gold

>> No.33233378

dan dan should hit 1m today. 995k right now. imagine the numbers if the original never got taken down.

>> No.33233415

>>33233315
definitely beating gura

>> No.33233434

>>33233315
wonder what the announcement is

>> No.33233435

>>33233074
Investor are forcing them to change. Their strategy at first was like android: The go to vtubing company and accelerate as fast as maney can get. Meanwhile holo strategy is like apple

>> No.33233452

>>33233378
it wouldve been at 2-3m by now i think

>> No.33233467

>>33233180
Her mother stole money on her account. All Aloe got was an apology. She still lives with her mom and her brother. Aloe unironically can't be saved.

>> No.33233470

>>33233435
The parallels between the Apple green text meme and Hololive collabs lately are kinda funny if you think about it

>> No.33233494

Did something happen apart from gura announcing her 3d live? Cause theres a ton of chatter outside /here/ about her being in japan.

>> No.33233512

>>33233470
that and console war

>> No.33233520

>>33233494
She said it was "Cover produced". So some people are guessing that means she's in Japan.
Nothing else has happened yet.

>> No.33233521

>>33233434
If it's from Suisei then it's either new song/album, sololive or new units with her

>> No.33233522

>>33233494
She's not in japan, she just recorded in a professional studio approved by Cover and then they add the scenes with others at post production

>> No.33233525

>>33233467
I thought Aloe moved out?

>> No.33233526

>>33233315
I'm eating good Jesus christ thank you blue women

>> No.33233555

>>33233494
No, that's it. Gura is getting an official Cover 3d live and ID1 is in Japan for theirs. It makes some sense that she COULD be in japan

>> No.33233562

>>33233355
I love kingposting

>> No.33233566

>>33233525
Is it? She talked about her interaction with her mother and brother recently.

>> No.33233572

>>33233494
>Cover bad
retards just dont want to admit Cover is now capable of delivering 3DLive outside their studio, despite having seen Shion and SummerLive.

>> No.33233592

>>33233521
She's announcing her 2 month hiatus because she wants to help Anemachi in raising our new kid.

>> No.33233595

If Gura's 3D Live is a success, will this give those members living in NA a chance to hold 3D Live as well?

>> No.33233601

>>33233494
The 3D is Cover's 3D, not Kanauru's 3D. ID1 is currently in Japan for their 3D stuffs. Suisei want to treat overseas Holo for a dinner. That's it, it's all speculation.

>> No.33233604

>Pekora did not reveal her stream beforehand today
She is waiting to see tonight number before making a move
Hololive will not slip a normal day gold under her watch

>> No.33233609

>>33233355
He saw Ame's King cover and like King Charles is here to take the throne

>> No.33233616

>Japan set to announce restart of visa-free tourist travel
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-set-to-announce-restart-of-visa-free-tourist-travel
Boys I can smell it, Kishida will now let me in to fertilize some hags

>> No.33233621

>>33233572
it's salty KFP that are angry at cover for refusing to provide support for Kiara

>> No.33233640

>>33233595
Absolutely. But they've gotta pursue it, they can't just wait around and hope some Cover employee DMs them some day and says "How about a 3d live?". Gotta take initiative.

>> No.33233645

>>33233595
It WILL be a success with how much work Gura seem to put into it

>> No.33233649

>>33233566
Some aloe anon a month ago said that she had moved out.

>> No.33233658

This TGSVR is pretty useful keeping up with new games. I'm just strolling around and watching each video

>> No.33233664

What the fuck happened to pomu? i checked her recent collab streams and all she ever talks about is vox dick , sex and other degenerate stuff it's like she has become the 2nd finana of nijiEN

>> No.33233669

is koyori a hag?
>>33233457
>>33233535

>> No.33233676

Ok, sorry for asking this question, but it plagues me for a very long time and I never dared to ask:
Were Council's and Myth's "3D" or "VR" real? I mean are they mocap? I've seen the smol model of Council did some unrealistic maneuver that is more akin to blobs that were controlled by the council girls than real mocap. Also the Myth anniv 3D, Gura fucking did a flip. I don't think Gura is git enough to do that perfect of a fit.
Are they all mocap or are they just controlled by the girls remotely? This question drives me nuts.

>> No.33233690

>>33233664
It's just NijiEN culture.

>> No.33233703 [DELETED] 

>>33233669
Bro that is Aki

>> No.33233709

>>33233520
>>33233522
>>33233555
Ah ok then so theres nothing new.
>>33233572
Nah there were some rrats about how she is supposedly gonna meet up with the ID girls or something.
>>33233601
>Suisei want to treat overseas Holo for a dinner
Ah that might be the source then.

>> No.33233721

>>33233676
You can use A VR setup with trackers or a controller with preprogrammed emotes. Gura wasn’t using a VR setup because it makes her sick

>> No.33233726

>>33233315
60k easy

>> No.33233738 [DELETED] 

>>33233669
isnt that aki?

>> No.33233762

>>33233676
You are not a smart man

>> No.33233794

>>33233664
They just want to be real

>> No.33233801

>>33233738
>imagine see this hag dance irl

>> No.33233835

>>33233801
>tfw you will never impregnate that hag
At least there is still hope with chocosen.

>> No.33233837

>>33232510
Its over holobros....

>> No.33233838

>>33233721
Any reason they don't use real mocap like Cover's studio? Is VR the absolute limit of Ame's ghetto studio?

>> No.33233847

>>33233664
WHAT

>> No.33233853

Number?
Where's the fight Niji promise me?

>> No.33233854

Why is Selen so fat?

>> No.33233858

>>33233595
Doubt. HoloEN combined is not as popular gura.

>> No.33233861

>>33233838
Ame's studio supports real mocap with real suits. Gura and Kiara shared one during the offcollab arc.

>> No.33233864

>>33233669
MY DICK'S SO HARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.33233873

>>33233664
Link or it didn't happen.

>> No.33233889

>Pekora's pet Koyori get a pet (Haachama)
Lmao

>> No.33233896

>>33233604
This is pretty normal though. You don't watch pekora no?

>> No.33233897

>>33233838
Ame has a suit. How do you think they did Kiara's 3d or Gura's? They literally talk about it for like a month

>> No.33233904

>>33233595
If they actually bought a studio in NA yeah.

>> No.33233911

>>33233669
not her, but she is indeed one

>> No.33233912

>>33233861
Then why didn't they use it aaaaaa

>> No.33233937

Holo podium sweep today?

>> No.33233945

>>33233897
Any reason they didn't use it for the anni?

>> No.33233952
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33233952

>>33233911
just cheeked there is 2 hag doin capcom direct

>> No.33233954

>>33233912
because the studio is nothing compared to an actualy well furnished professional studio with staff
ame studio is good for ame la creatividad

>> No.33233955

>>33233912
What? They did for the 3d lives. Do you not watch streams or read threads?

>> No.33233968

>>33233669
That's not her, but yes she is in her thirties.

>> No.33233984

>>33233896
Yeah I know, just wanted to shitposting a bit

>> No.33233988

>>33233955
anon might be refering to a sololive in which case >>33233954

>> No.33233989
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33233989

>>33233968
Koyo seggs

>> No.33233990

>>33233955
It doesn't feel real though? I don't believe Gura can do a flip.

>> No.33233996

>>33233945
Ame is the only one with one, she probably wanted to be the same as everyone. They all have body tracked, but gura didn't use hers.

>> No.33234016

>>33233180
Throw the fact that
>Undiagnosed autism(at the time)
On top of depression, makes figuring things out mentally even worse.

>> No.33234017

>>33233968
>>33233989
It's kind of weird seeing her saying "Pekora-senpai" every time despite being older

>> No.33234032

>>33231630
Im with this

>> No.33234033

>>33234017
Senpai isn't about age, it's about professional respect

>> No.33234039

What is with this thread's weird obsession with older women?

>> No.33234041
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33234041

imagine not having seggs with koyori baka

>> No.33234044

>>33233990
Are you trolling or are you actually retarded? Gura didn't have her trackers on and use the default VRchat emotes to flip

>> No.33234049

>>33233990
because gura wasnt using the mocap since vr made her feel sick

>> No.33234057

>>33234039
see >>30000000

>> No.33234062

>>33234017
she's young at heart

>> No.33234067

>>33231551
I hope she won't be like Aqua and deliver disappointment

>> No.33234098

>>33234067
What was up with that Aqua 3D live anyway? It feels underwhelming compared to other 3D lives.

>> No.33234099
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33234099

>>33234017
Lmao that's definitely weird af

>> No.33234103

>>33234033
Yeah I know but it still feel weird for me, especially because she say "Pekora-senpai" so whole-heartedly

>> No.33234102

>>33234017
Why do you think Pekora accidentally called Koyori as senpai? They all met irl Koyori probably look much older than Pekora.

>> No.33234118

>>33232464
>less coof restriction
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.33234126

>>33234103
Hachama senpai

>> No.33234127

>>33232179
Yeah. Sora and akari are the official ambassador for that shit

>> No.33234129

>>33234098
Just umisea things

>> No.33234139

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1570336632053571586?s=20&t=I07gU_4VmS__EXhc7UP8Rg
KING SHILL

>> No.33234144

>>33234103
koyo tries to act younger than her age
and it's not limited to her holo persona

>> No.33234148

>>33234102
speaking of which, everyone did slip calling koyori senpai

>> No.33234153

>>33233996
>>33234044
>>33234049
I see I see. I fucked my own brain out after I saw the smol council collab. Sorry about that.

>> No.33234159

>>33234039
>he doesn’t feel the urge to reverse a lonely middle-aged woman’s menopause and give her lots of children

>> No.33234162

Pekora knows hologold is already at 38k and is waiting to see if it can slip, that will decide if she plays dqm or rust

>> No.33234164

>>33234017
senpai isnt about age anon
on that note how does the senpai thing work for polka?

>> No.33234189

>>33234148
>>33234102
also happen with botan

>> No.33234201

>>33234144
I WANT TO IMPREGNATE BOTH OF THEM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.33234205

>>33234039
i just want to save chocosens eggs...

>> No.33234207

Man, we've been having sub-40k gold for the past few days. It's so weird how low the numbers can get.

>> No.33234212

>>33233912
>Why didn’t they travel from Canada, Austria and Japan to Ames house for the anniversary
Also Ame doesn’t have 5 suits

>> No.33234217

>>33232317
Speaking of concert, is that cinderella thingy still going? I remember watame was the last one some times ago

>> No.33234221
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>>33234148
who's the other ones?

>> No.33234255

>>33234221
i think kiara, irys and peko have called her that

>> No.33234256

>>33234207
suisei and miko could go above 40k. suisei is doing the same thing as gura, but at JP primetime and miko is doing one of those game/totsu combo streams with splatoon 3.

>> No.33234260

is Sora the only holo who collabed with Miku?

>> No.33234263

>>33234162
she's definitely going to play DQ today

>> No.33234274

>>33234212
How about council? They can travel around for some random off collab but not anniversary?

>> No.33234276

>>33234127
https://youtu.be/x-g0SeUJxsI
Don't forget Megu was part of it. She did a cool cover with mel and choco

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>>33234217
Yes

>> No.33234286

People here keep talkoing about hags like Mio, Aki, Lui and Koyori, but they don't talk about the one true hag:
>Luna

>> No.33234298

>>33232613
No. Just the usuar sealarper /here/

>> No.33234308

>>33234260
Yes, OG priviledge

>> No.33234311

>>33233117
My knees will reach the center of the Earth ...

>> No.33234317

>>33234260
So far

>> No.33234320

>>33234286
because luna is the ultimate example of not acting your age at all, it's also the reason why koyori tends to get excluded from hag discussions
korone is also like that

>> No.33234321

>>33234189
She is older than everyone else and I think everyone kinda feel that way too lmao.

>> No.33234348

>>33234274
one is in canada while the other 2 is in australia

>> No.33234349

>>33234263
Actually that kind of raise a question. Could it be that SE have a deadline for how long Pekora can use their "special environment" to stream DQM? That explain why she try to get through it as fast as possible

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>>33234286
No way she's older than these hags.
how old is she?

>> No.33234357

>>33232673
Too expensive. Cant afford collab fee

>> No.33234366

>>33234321
Luna is slightly older than Botan anon

>> No.33234369

>>33234260
How to even collab with Miku? You can just load the program and call it a day right?

>> No.33234391

>>33234286
Luna has successfully smokescreened her hag status like Rushia did

>> No.33234401

>>33234352
Anon, she was an outcast in her niji days because he was the old lady in her wave

>> No.33234400

>>33234366
fr?

>> No.33234413

>>33232899
Unit isn't about dancing, singing and doing any of that shit. Unit is just a term for a group, and that group can be related to music. THis abhrorent idea that anything music related is idol is extremely retarded and show how misguided you all are about music genres
>>33232918
>>33232943
None of them are idols, stop calling them that shit. None of the members consider themselves as such and neither do the company.

None of EN are in idol groups either. Literally no one ever called themselves as idols in there and thats why you dont even see anyone making muh idol jokes out there. EN are just a wave, all using a format that was already established by selejo in 2020 with a theme and by adding original songs to market better the waves. Thats why you have members who sing and others who dont do anything with it.
EN was an experience with that shit, and that was applied with JP since Ranunculus.

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fun stroll, give a go anons

>> No.33234417

>>33233595
Yes
Which means Kiara is still double fucked

>> No.33234424

>>33232777
Nope. Unless riku plan to create another sub-group like RUMAO or Noxic (that chima group) and add one of them then, no chance

>> No.33234429

>>33234391
But Rushia is only a few years older than me. Her eggs can still be saved.

>> No.33234440

>>33232953
>Paul
My god, you people are fucking insufferable idiots. Its futile to talk to you.

>> No.33234441

>>33234039
What are you a faggot?

>> No.33234442

>>33234401
Turns out a hag environment is where she thrived... oh and also young girls who love pampering

>> No.33234443

>>33234417
Well she want to stay in that cursed timezone, her fault
The company not gonna bend themselves for Kiara of all people

>> No.33234448

>>33234369
3D with Crypton-certified actress/dancer

>> No.33234453

>>33234429
I'm sorry anon, but your balls are declining

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>>33234139
>SILVER KING

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>>33234413
fuck off

>> No.33234473

>>33232848
Avril, Miku, lady gaga, and Gorrilaz

>> No.33234474

>>33234260
Gura being the only other holo to collab with Miku would be absolute kino cementing her position as Sora's anointed successor and next face of hololive.

>> No.33234475

>>33234429
why would you want to save them, they're gonna come out crazy like her

>> No.33234478

>>33234442
>pampering
You mean grooming

>> No.33234491

>>33234413
>Unit is just a term for a group, and that group can be related to music
So idols then since thats basically the same thing

>> No.33234519

>>33234491
Don't bother, he's coping with really

>> No.33234526

>>33234413
>all using a format that was already established by selejo in 2020 with a theme and by adding original songs to market better the waves
Kinda sounds like an idol group.

>> No.33234528

>>33234413
>music genres
Anon, much like “live” became a short hand for “concert” (even ore recorded ones), “idol activities”, “idol route”, “idol unit” became a short hand for “sing and dance on stage after careful preparation and rehearsal”.

>> No.33234531

>>33234349
yeah it's probably that , it always comes down to game permission limitation

>> No.33234532

>>33234491
No, its fucking not. Just because you fags put every single genre in idol doesn't mean its idol. Bands arent idols, most singers in the world arent idol, and the most important part, none of the members consider themselves as idols, and neither the fans of those members.

>> No.33234540

>>33234429
Don’t stick your dick in crazy

>> No.33234568

>>33234532
They have idol costumes and do idol concerts. Linkin Park didn't have them

>> No.33234571

Why no HoloJP mentioned anything about meeting with Gura? Is she in Japan or just NA studio with Cover affiliated support?

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>>33232037
>30k retweets, actual stream will peak at 10-15k
>hololive big announcement 20-30k reweets, stream peaks at 100+k

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>>33234478
Sugarcoating words anon. You know the drill

>> No.33234582

>>33234475
>>33234540
She is not the craziest woman I've seen. Also they tend to go a bit crazy if they are childless past 35 so I am not going to be too hard on her for wanting a cock so bad.

>> No.33234591

>>33233304
https://youtu.be/xU1gjhY6cKo

>> No.33234594

>>33234582
but she likes alien dick anon

>> No.33234593

>>33234528
idols are only idols when you identify yourself as such. Utada Hikaru isn't an idol
>>33234526
Funny considering none of them call themselves as idols and many don't even sing.
>>33234568
and none of them ever called themselves as such, much like theres members who never even have been in concerts.

>> No.33234597

>>33234577
Still can’t believe Luna successfully groomed Subaru (with Choco’s full support too)

>> No.33234598

>>33234571
Gumba is not in Japan. But if she was, the members are not retarded and know to keep their mouth shut so the don't ruin the announcement

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>>33234573
I WILL NEVER STOP POSTING THIS

>> No.33234613

>>33234532
They have idol costumes and do idol concerts and even do idol raffles.
They are idols all but in name,

>> No.33234616

>>33234571
Wait for Suisei's announcement later, she's probably going to reveal herself as a guest and hype up Gura's concert.

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>>33234401
Poor hag.. at least she's happy now

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why do the nijibuddies sperg out so much whenever idols are mentioned?

>> No.33234628

>>33234598
How do you know she is not in Japan?

>> No.33234632

>>33234443
I mean, can she go back to Japan?

>> No.33234655

>>33234624
What's her name bro?

>> No.33234663

>>33234577
Matsuri missed out. What a stupid bitch

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XBros, we are reclining ...

>> No.33234671

>>33234613
Idols are only idols if they are branded as such. That's why Utada Hikaru isn't an idol but AKB48 is

>> No.33234675

>>33234655
Takoyaki Tawoba

>> No.33234679

>>33234632
She can
But she won't lmao

>> No.33234683

>>33231624
Well her behavior leading up to that "hiatus" is still weird a f.
I don't see any other reason to delete literally every twitch VOD after starting the hiatus, and dropping the hint at the end if she wasn't going to reincarnate.
I'm thinking this is to kill the rrats, in which case I'll just shut up and wait for the debut

>> No.33234689

>>33234655
Takoyaki tower

>> No.33234690

>>33234593
Why would you give non idols an idol uniform, promote lives like idol groups do and perform just like idols do if you are not an idol?

>> No.33234691

>>33234571
Is it possible that this Gura's 1 year long project is for Cover to set up a real studio, owned by Cover itself, in North America? Her 3D live will also be the debut of Cover NA studio?

>> No.33234699

>>33234668
>Xbox
>Japan
Gee i wonder why

>> No.33234700

>>33234624
ShinobiHost finally comes here

>> No.33234706

>>33234668
>Losing to FGO with EOP buff
LMAO

>> No.33234719

>>33234622
Wrong hag. Mayodog also had a sad story

>> No.33234729

>>33234474
Holy shit chumbuds and EN tards are having the wildest delusions

>> No.33234730

>>33234668
2.6k on Twitch and 5k on TGS Youtube

>> No.33234734

>>33234571
No one talked about meeting Moona until she first talked about it herself.

>> No.33234738

>>33232362
>3D debut out of pity
They're clearing their queue as fast as they can so that they can give Luxiem their 3D

>> No.33234747

>>33234624
i think this is literally a new 'record corrector' who came from the catalog, 2324, or NijiEN

I can't tell if the strict adherence to the idea that things are only what the first line in the dictionary says they are is a well, but not fully educated ESL thing or a severely autistic western EN thing

>> No.33234753

>>33234690
Because none of them call themselves as idols, their fans dont call them as idols and the company dont call them as such
Music, groups and such which exists with EN and other things dont mean its idol. Bands and groups in music existed for years, much before idols ever have been a thing.

>> No.33234754

>>33234582
Are you andorgynous anon? If so then you'd have no chance, best you start taking in your estrogen pills so you could have a chance with her

>> No.33234770

>>33234593
>Funny considering none of them call themselves as idols and many don't even sing.
Past JP debuts yeah but even then they have been put into units (aka idol groups) and now most of their group debuts are pre-packaged into idol groups.
They are idols all but in name anon from the looks of it especially with the fact that they are doing more and more idol stuf compared to when they first started seems to indicate that they are slowly shifting to the idol route.

>> No.33234771

>>33234729
Anon, don't mind him, it's the new chumschizo who suck Gura dick in every conversation, even if it not related to Gura at all

>> No.33234780

>>33234719
i don't know if mostly working on unsuccessful shit and being a 2view for a couple years counts as sad

>> No.33234784

>>33233595
See, here's the thing. These 3D live dont just fall off the sky. They are self-produced by the talents themselves. Ofc there's a mandatory 3D debut but, even how that goes is up for the talent's direction. So, if the talents are lazy/passive then, we'll never get that kino. And now borders are open, there is no reason for them to not be able to do 3D stuff with how much money they have.

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>>33234729

>> No.33234802

>>33234655
tabako-kun

>> No.33234812

Bots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.33234813

>>33232317
Quality > Quantity

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>>33234593
>idols are only idols when you identify yourself as such. Utada Hikaru isn't an idol
BAHAHAHAHA, I'll just eject myself out of this debate, this is getting too close to the alphabet people "identify as" modern non sense.
>pic related

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>>33234792

>> No.33234822

>>33234753
And yet the recent waves are pre-packaged like idol groups, act like idol groups and even do idol stuff.

>> No.33234830

Why are Nijifans so allergic with the term "idol" anyway?

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>>33234792

>> No.33234842

>>33234628
Guess we don't know, but come on.

>>33234671
I didn't know Utada Hikaru had an idol costume.

>>33234753
So I can get a group of people, wear idol clothes and perform original idol music, but If I don't call myself an idol, I'm not.

>> No.33234853

>>33234770
They have original songs and they will sing only in there if they aren't good singers. In EN this is the most evident.
>They are idols all but in name anon from the looks of it especially with the fact that they are doing more and more idol stuf compared to when they first started seems to indicate that they are slowly shifting to the idol route.
They aren't idols. All of those are activities done without such label, and without a focus on it. The members dont consider themselves as idols either, with in EN you having Pomu and Elira denying it since day 1.

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>>33234842
you smell like reddit, friend

>> No.33234877

>>33234842
>but If I don't call myself an idol, I'm not
Okay, which NijiEN member are you?

>> No.33234889

>>33234830
because their biggest selling point was being not hololive and now that they are an ipo those investors might want a piece of the idol pie which might signal a shift in their direction.

>> No.33234893

>>33234780
It's sad in a realistic way. Working hard to be recognized and failing every single time is terrifying and a hell of its own

>> No.33234895

>>33232673
JPs aren't exactly hardcore gamers, except maybe Botan, and I'm sure she was busy with her anniversary stuff.

>> No.33234898

Elira Daisenpai

>> No.33234900

>>33234830
For most of 2020 their "comfort blanket" was "talent freedom" (on their side) as an antithesis to "idol culture" (on Holo side) so even implying that they're going full in into
>song and dance and matching outfits
and that it makes that "idol reps" and "idol activities" is popping an aneurism in their heads

>> No.33234912

>>33234207
The numbers are healing bro

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>>33234831

>> No.33234919

>>33233036
What IS the NijiEN brand then?
"VTubers but OTV" seems to stand out, but is there anything else?

>> No.33234929

>>33234877
Don't know the name yet

>> No.33234932

>>33234822
>And yet the recent waves are pre-packaged like idol groups
no, they are pre-package of what the vtuber industry has been doing for years in many japanese agencies. Its just a theme for a wave instead of something more individual.
>act like idol groups and even do idol stuff.
ah yea, the idol stuff, the act of singing an original song is idol stuff, amazing
The act where many of them after their original song never sing again, dont do karaoke and just stream

>> No.33234943

>>33234919
"We are not Hololive"

>> No.33234945

>>33234919
Coombaits

>> No.33234948

>>33234919
>What IS the NijiEN brand then?
le cummy bottom boyz (and girls)

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>>33234900
>their "comfort blanket" was "talent freedom"
So this is where Vshojo get their slogan
>No wonder it Flops so hard its doesnt get mentioned anymore
I guess its 2-0 for Holo

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>>33234898

>> No.33234969

>>33234853
I mean thats what the shift means. Prior to hololive becoming popular, it was rare for any of the nijs ever debuted as a group with a group song but you can clearly see where they started to debut groups and let them have group songs.

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>>33234932
give it a rest m8. you're boring.

>> No.33235010

>>33233018
It's Kai man, Kei is Nagao.

>> No.33235020

>>33234889
More like its because yu fags are obssessed with the idol term and think everything related to groups and music is idol, when idol is just a branding for pop.
>>33234900
Nijisanji has been dancing and singing since the very beginning you imbecile, holy shit kek
>>33234842
Ah yes anon! I guess Vshojo are idols because they were in a concert and used idol outfits. HMMMM Veibae is such an idol!!!!!!!!

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>>33234260
Yes. They are dating

>> No.33235032

>>33234792
>this is a hag
very hard to believe, but since she said she rides a Harley i have to take it as fact

>> No.33235034

I'm back from /v/
M$ presentation this year is so fucking boring
So much for pivoting to Japan I guess ...

>> No.33235037

>>33234932
Is Mori an idol?

>> No.33235045

>>33234932
>, they are pre-package of what the vtuber industry has been doing for years in many japanese agencies
When did nijisanji start pre-packaging vtubers with group songs anyway?

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>>33234276
This girl?

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>>33235034
Stop talking to yourself schizo!

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>>33233355

>> No.33235078

>>33235057
Yeah, I like her voice

>> No.33235093

>>33233257
lol

>> No.33235100

What just happened?
We switch from a bunch of retarded questions about 3D and mocap, some nice anons drop some good discussion about breeding hags, and we are now full force into a debate about "nijisanji doing idol things but doesn't call themselves idols".

>> No.33235105

>>33234969
Literally the first one to have it was NijiEN with Lazulight, that was obviously a test in the entire branch to implement in Japan in the future, hence why that happened with Ranunculus and Voltaction in 2022.
But your point is retarded because hololive never debuted as such so there's nothing even to compare. They dont debut with original songs, and Selejo, VALZ and JK Gumi were a thing for themed characters.

>> No.33235108

>>33234616
Thats a huge honor for suisei if ever I can see why she's making a big deal out of it.

>> No.33235124

>>33235100
it's honestly way better than whatever the fuck that was the last couple days

>> No.33235145

>>33235100
Still better than Amogus and SEAnig copy paste

>> No.33235149

>>33235020
>Ah yes anon! I guess Vshojo are idols because they were in a concert and used idol outfits. HMMMM Veibae is such an idol!!!!!!!!
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/vshojo-explained-biggest-vtuber-group-twitch-members-1690998/
>VShojo’s stars also have a large amount of freedom compared to other VTuber groups. Instead of being forced to use similar model styles, the VShojo idols have different models they swap between, and can run their own show in their own way.
this is a vshojo approved article btw

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>>33234039
Hags are fertile and ready to receive since they're close to hitting the wall.
It's arousing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5U1lLI73V0

>> No.33235187

>>33234830
They're afraid

>> No.33235192

>>33235149
are you seriously using the article praising vshojo and shitting on holo as source?

>> No.33235193

>>33235100
It's one bloke who's very insistent that a shift in Anycolor's strategy to maximize money is most definitely not an attempt to appeal to idolfags in any way whatsoever, despite it 'talking like a duck, walking like a duck, and looking like a duck', don't you dare call it a duck!
Look. If they had cool rock outfits or jpop outfits or something, I'd be willing to agree, but there outfits from the cancelled concert at the start of the year basically are idol outfits, which really makes it hard to pretend that there isn't a pivot happening.

>> No.33235196

>>33235100
Well, if you're bored you can always summon super3D-anon

>> No.33235218

>>33235105
>NijiEN with Lazulight, that was obviously a test in the entire branch to implement in Japan in the future, hence why that happened with Ranunculus and Voltaction in 2022
Seems like there was a sudden shift in debuting talents then. Wonder what happened for them to change up their debut styles.

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>>33233257
Lmao here have a luna

>> No.33235235

>>33235218
Yagoo happened

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>>33235196
Did you say super3D?

>> No.33235242

>>33235196
I'm saving my super3D for when the nogs get really uppity.

>> No.33235245

en3... ?

>> No.33235249

>>33235145

I miss that King. I hope he returns

>> No.33235264

>>33235171
That's a penis

>> No.33235268

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1570348315958714370?s=20&t=I07gU_4VmS__EXhc7UP8Rg
She really love Rust
Today she will meet Polka

>> No.33235270

>>33235245
wrong timeslot

>> No.33235277

Here's a new topic:

Corpo chuubas (think 4view) reading responses / retorts from their chats. There's no way that they have some kinda highlight for their paypigs right? what you see on the on-screen scroll is what their eyes are wandering over?

Like I'm sure they recognize frequent chatters after a while, especially if they are members but there isn't some extra layer of filtering that the audience isn't aware of right?

>> No.33235282

>>33235245
next month, trust.

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>>33235270
oh right sorry im usually not awake this early, have fun jpbros

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>>33235020
>Nijisanji has been dancing and singing since the very beginning you imbecile, holy shit kek
I am not saying otherwise, doofus. I am saying the the word "idol" carries a negative connotation in the minds of the NIjisanji typical audience in such a way that even when they're clearly doing something that is
>ABSOLUTELY INDISTINGUISHABLE
from "idol actitivies" they turn a massive seethe if someone call it "idol activities"
>pic related
What they do is not all in this level but they clearly pivoted into doing more of this
>song and dance carefully rehearsed and performed sometimesi in matching outfits

The shorthand for this is "idol activities" but they can't accept that because "idol culture" is anathema for them and, by consequence, anything called "idol"

>> No.33235291

>>33235241
GODDAMNIT, BEGONE FOUL DEMON, RETURN ONCE MORE WHEN THE TALLY CALLS AND NOT A MOMENT SOONER.

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>Why stop? Keep 'em coming!

>> No.33235311

>>33235192
yeah because
>Ah yes anon! I guess Vshojo are idols because they were in a concert and used idol outfits. HMMMM Veibae is such an idol!!!!!!!!
in which case yes vshojo are idols since they approve to be labelled as one since they do the same stuff nijisanji does.

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>>33235289

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>>33235193
appeal to idolfags kek
>>33235218
I didnt say there wasn't a change, there was, if you know their history you can see. I said units were already a thing before with existing vtubers from different waves becoming one thing -and now that happening w nornis as an example- and they arent idols

>> No.33235334

>>33235233
Tits too big. Luna is a medium premium at most

>> No.33235343

>>33235245
some time between now and december. ame mentioned that myth was chosen around 3 months before they debuted and cover just changed the EN audition page, so something definitely happened in the audition cycle recently.

>> No.33235354

>>33235277
Anon, that's what superchats exist for. A method by which YOUTUBE priotizes messages, baked into the UI.
If they go beyond that? They're probs paypig farming, hopelessly lost in the parasocial sauce, or both.

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>>33235196
DID YOU CALL MOTEHR FUCKER?!

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Nijiniggers promised me this will be a flop
What went wrong?

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>>33235290

>> No.33235376

>>33235105
>No nijisanji is not doing the idol route they are staying just the way they are.
>Dont mind the sudden shift to being having an idol-like strategy that started with lazulight btw

>> No.33235378

>>33235290
Kek. Nijiniggers memoryholed this shit hard
>Tryana do idolshit after their fanbase shit on it for years
>struck by watamage

>> No.33235377

>>33235335
wow, you are actually using the slides unironically

>> No.33235380

>>33235290
funny how fantasia is the only thing like this but most of the other concerts aren't.

>> No.33235398

i want to see a vtuber let their fans make a schedule for what they should play/do that week. just give them the list of all the games you have perms for and let them make the schedule.

>> No.33235399

I count 2 idol denying nijifags in this thread. the alternating greentext tldr one and the mass replier.

>> No.33235402

>>33235366
>Believe nijinigger

>> No.33235407
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>>33234413
>None of them are idols
>None of the members consider themselves as such and neither do the company.

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can migo 40k?

>> No.33235425

>>33235335
And as I said yes unit were a thing back then but the difference is that the units were formed after the debuts an sometimes involved different waves. While now they come in pre packaged idol/unit waves.

>> No.33235426

>>33235366
king hot keyword this days due to liz graduation + smol ame fascist salute for right-wing algo engagement, ssg watson

>> No.33235432

>>33234655
Tsuneyami Toi...

>> No.33235438

>>33235376
ah yeah, idol like strategy where none of the members see themselves as such, dont act as such, and the fans dont even comment about them being as such..
Vox talking about dicks and NijiEn in general swearing, talking about piss, sex and all the shit while not calling themselves as idols.. mean they are idols.

>> No.33235440

Fuck, why today of all days Suichan?

>> No.33235447

>>33235420
I want to see Suisei and Gura sandwich Miko, is it possible?
Or Suisei and Gura sandwich Pekomiko.

>> No.33235455

>>33235372
I hope gill is not dead

>> No.33235463

>>33235335
>not shifting to idol route
>every debut in en is basically an idol group but in name

>> No.33235473

>>33235407
Show me one article from Anycolor calling any member an idol.
Using idol outfits is irrelevant, even fucking Mito has one for years and shes not an idol.

>> No.33235478

>>33235447
i would love a full holoblue podium, just to exert power

>> No.33235479

>>33235447
I'm gonna sandwich Suzy

>> No.33235489

people actually dont think gura will get 100k or just nijicope?

>> No.33235493

Why is there one person that tries to genuinely defend Nijisanji in here? This hasn't happened before

>> No.33235495

>>33235037
Yes.

>> No.33235499

>>33235420
>splatoon
no she's lucky to get 20k

>> No.33235507

>>33235440
Her big announcement is probably the guesting in gura's concert she's feel honored to be in that 3D live.

>> No.33235508

>>33235145

>> No.33235512

>>33235463
>idol group
>singing an original song is now idol group
what are bands, what are different genres, huh
everything in your minds mean idol, when its not.

>> No.33235529

>>33235512
lmao. you are actually seething.

>> No.33235532

>>33235438
Is mori an idol? She doesn't really call herself one and is kinda weirds her out

>> No.33235535

>>33235380
that might not be the case post ipo especially when they expect that growth projection in the en branch which is the branch that is idol-lite.

>> No.33235548

>>33235499
Its totsu splatoon.

>> No.33235555

>>33235294
>Pool's closed due to aids

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>>33235380
>fantasia is the only thing like this

>> No.33235561

>>33235489
i actually have doubts... i need to see more schilling and guest lists keep the secret guest a secret but i NEED to see the hype

>> No.33235562

>>33235499

>> No.33235566

btw selen streamed MS conference on tgs and will do more later on
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1570350068720627712?s=20&t=lfEaMNZWpvxlFrENYfu1AQ
rrat was retarded as I said

>> No.33235570

>>33235512
>what are bands
dont see them playing any instruments but if you mean boy bands then yeah they are the western equivalent of an idol group
>what are different genre
yes idol is also a genre and from the looks of it something that they are leaning on.

>> No.33235573

>>33235499
It's first army splatoon so it's 15k floor regardless of other gimmicks

>> No.33235582

>>33235499
she has the magic kanji anon

>> No.33235610

>>33235512
>singing an original song is now idol group
Where's the metalhead/rock/grunge/acid group debut song?
There's only been JPop (i.e. idol-style) songs in their recent debuts).

>> No.33235612

>>33234039
>Behind the innocent, youthful, cutesy idol avatar are spicy experienced hags.
No wonder Subaru said there is huge middle age audience watching Hololive. Making sense because it's much easier to vibe with people around your age.

>> No.33235621

Looks like migo will have sub 20k lol and you think this will beat gura's gold?

>> No.33235627

>>33235566
Selen is literally/here/. She saw those post about how NijiEN afraid to do the watchalong so now she's doing this to damage control

>> No.33235641

All these talks about nijisanji being idols is funny because outside /here/ most of the sisters do consider nijien as an idol group an most unityfags are also on the idol but in name camp. The ones that are refusing that mark are the old guards who are slowly being outnumbered profit wise.

>> No.33235642

>>33235559
Why is the 2nd one from the left's Leg look weird?
Did she get pummeled before the concert?

>> No.33235643

>>33235566
She said she will be back in 3 hours(?)
Which means she's gonna be cover Hoyoverse section
Hardly disproving anything desu

>> No.33235657

fubuki sabotaged miko

>> No.33235665

>>33235627
Did she react to Nobeta tho?

>> No.33235674

>>33235532
She's an idol because hololive is branded as such, unlike Nijisanji, where their brand is being vtubers/livers
The only thing I seethe is about you guys using idol as a wrong term. I'm an actual idol fan, retard, thats why it bothers me in the first place.
>>33235535
LMAO NijiEN is idol-lite. you have to be kidding with me. Are you guys really that much out of touch with the fandom? with the own members? no one outside of this thread call NijiEN idols. This hasn't been a thing since lazulight when new fans understood things weren't the same as it was in hololive
>>33235559
Where are you seeing idol like outfits, retard? this is just a concert

>> No.33235709

>>33235674
calm down, mang.

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Apparently some irl idol group straight up copied Ike's costume design roru

>> No.33235720

>>33235438
>Vox talking about dicks and NijiEn in general swearing, talking about piss, sex and all the shit while not calling themselves as idols
So like some underground idols who have the anti-idol persona as their character?

>> No.33235730

>Kuzuha-san
MIKOCHI NO

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>>33235674
>where their brand is being liver

>> No.33235737

>>33235641
Literally no one outside of here consider them as idols, at all. Holy fuck, you people are completely out of touch with reality and with nijien as a fandom.
>>33235643
She's going to be back in 3 hours because the next two conferences are literal who's, retard..

>> No.33235744

>>33235473
Does not matter what they say anon.
Plenty of companies have no sense for branding.
The image speaks for itself.

>> No.33235746

>>33235730
what?!

>> No.33235748

>>33235495
Then so is everyone in nijisanji

>> No.33235751

>>33235621
Miko will beat gura any day

>> No.33235757

>>33235730
YAB

>> No.33235763

Doesn't look like miko will beat guta gold today. So the only threat is suisei karaoke.

>> No.33235766

>>33235719
reminder that anycolor will be hypocrites if they take action against this after what luca did with towa and okayu's BGMs.

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>> No.33235778

>>33235720
No, like people who don't see themselves as idols and where no one call them as such.
Actually go into the community for one second of your life and see it by yourself. you fags cant even do the bare minimum of lurking.

>> No.33235780

>>33235748
No. Mori has had a concert NijiEN post about cumpscare. They are not the same.

>> No.33235799

has peko said what she's doing already, i'm too lazy to open twitter

>> No.33235801

>>33235766
Like that would stop them?
>One rule for thee, another for me.

>> No.33235804

>>33235610
Mori debut with a rap song and apparently she counts as an idol

>> No.33235809

>>33235674
>She's an idol because hololive is branded as such
>I'm an actual idol fan

Anon, if you're an actual idolfag you'd know what Hololive does is just the girls larping as idols

>> No.33235847

>>33235809
Yes, I know this. But Cover brands them as idols since then, and as such, they are idols, even if they arent in the tradiitonal industry. They aren't like enogumi but still are focused.

>> No.33235853

>>33235737
Well, I'll hold my judgement
IF Selen cover anything afterward then sure, the rrat is slain
Otherwise be ready for "Lol damage control" fags

>> No.33235863

>>33235674
Was she one at debut? She didn't consider herself one, doesn't that mean she was not one?

>> No.33235868

/#/ - Defining idol discussion

>> No.33235880

why are we having this dumbass semantic discussion
also migo 20k i guess, this shit ain't going nowhere

>> No.33235898

>>33235799
consider today's gold is secured, she'll probably do DQ or some kuso game

>> No.33235902

>>33235868
Nijikeks need a win anon, even tho it's just idol discussion, they need the win

>> No.33235910

>>33235737
>He says this when people outside here describe nijisanji as an "Everything Agency". They have streamer, idol, dancer, pro player, singer, band, author, narrator, TV show, school, etc.

>> No.33235917

>>33235804
Idol rappers are totally a thing though. Also
https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY

>> No.33235931

>>33235780
What about debut Mori? Was she an idol?

>> No.33235934

>/ggg/ post gura porn
>Nobody give a shit
>I post lewd with bare boobs
>3days ban
Fucking hell

>> No.33235937

>>33235674
>She's an idol because hololive is branded as such
so you're saying "brand" is the soul reason why? branding? really? if i brand myself as a pilot but i never flew a plane, never been in one and never seen one, does that make me a pilot? because i branded myself as such?

>> No.33235938

>>33235366
King still reigns supreme in the world of vtuber covers I guess.
This one is kinda shitty though, and I doubt that it has much replayability value.
In her anniversary stream Mori outright revealed that she's not the one with the lowest voice in Holomyth, and seeing how hard it is for Ame to hit high notes, and how comfortable she is with ikemen voice, it's not that hard to connect the dots. She should've sung it either an octave lower or in a different key

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>>33235937
yes, you're a pilot anon
pilot of your own destiny

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>https://youtu.be/x137r_pJ_RU
>https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q14264736034
>https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q13264883768
>https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q13264361043
>https://note.com/nice_peony806/n/na3b8525dd258
Nijibros...

>> No.33235994

anyone watching miko, did she start, has anyone called

>> No.33235999

>>33231516
Collab ban? Did I miss something?

>> No.33236001

>>33235934
Based chumbuds

>> No.33236012

>>33235863
No, she wasn't. By this I mean that hololive fans in the beginning of lazulight were calling them idols and all 3 refused to be called as such, with Pomu being the strongest one about this. Over time this stopped, but it was obvious it was a bunch of holo fans, to the point the chat had a bunch of hololive references and yagoo and idol jokes and memes. Months later that disappeared, but it was a thing

>> No.33236015

>>33235994
no one call yet

>> No.33236021

>>33235847
So if HoloEn3 has a member that does not consider herself an idol, is she an idol?
What about if the net NijiEn wave has a member that considers herself an idol, is she not one?

>> No.33236037

>>33235910
Yes, they ahve idol. Uiha Aiba, Zea, Roha, the ones who are idols in their lore and consider themselves as such. the others are idols at best in concerts like fantasia.
>>33235937
Be

>> No.33236042

>>33235934
i posted a marine lewd when she won with her asshole showing, no pussy or tits. didn't get banned. it's all about the timing of the post

>> No.33236054

>>33236012
I was talking about Mori Calliope?

>> No.33236057

>>33236015
this is going to be a repeat of her shrine stream, isn't it?

>> No.33236071

>>33236037
Yes the everything but in name idol group lazulight ethyria luxiem noctyx etc

>> No.33236084

>>33236057
is that the one where just koyo and suzy called

>> No.33236098

>>33236037
>>33236021
Idol is all about brand, and that goes for every industry. Idol isn't a genre, its not a style, its a brand and always has been one.
As for your question, when i say consider to be one, I speak about them never refering them as such. if the lore of someone is being an idol then ofc they will refer as idol, same as it already happens in nijisanji.

>> No.33236108

>>33236012
That sound like what happened to mori at the start

>> No.33236134

>>33236071
the everything but in name idol group where none of them consider as such. we are going in circles already so forget this
>>33235985
even anycolor asys here

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