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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

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HololiveEN Auditions!
https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Phase Connect Auditions are open!
https://phase-connect.com/auditions/

AkioAir auditions are opening very soon!

Stay grounded, stay hopeful

Previous Thread: >>>>32995382

>> No.33051478

>>33051316
Posting Chase Knight's Audition to Nijisanji EN GAMERS wave
https://vocaroo.com/1696VhrJFgkC

>> No.33051526

DOG BUSSY!!!

>> No.33051724
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>>33051316
Can anyone recommend an artist or a style for making aesthetic buff male models?
I want to comish my 2D model but I don't like twink models that most people make.

>> No.33052035

>>33051724
I heard you can find what you're looking for here: https://www.google.com/

>> No.33052133

>>33051724
Look at some male chuubas that you like the style of and find out who made their model

>> No.33053707

>>33052035
whats that
>>33052133
Thats the thing I can't seeme to find chuubas with buff models, males that is

>> No.33054035

>>33053707
literally olga chaika, do you not watch any vtubers

>> No.33054108

>>33054035
where do you think we are

>> No.33054245

>>33054108
nta but your mom's bedroom

>> No.33054260

>op has hololive auditions as if /asp/ies can make hololive

>> No.33054331

>>33054260
But aspies told me I have to be thread famous first or I'm ngmi.

>> No.33054353

Post underrated aspies that deserve sex posts

>> No.33054366

>>33050723
I unironically love you. Do you want a shota bf?

>> No.33054383

>>33054331
/asp/ie unity!

>> No.33054434

>>33054245
nta but I am your mom

>> No.33054564

>>33054434
nta but I fucked you

>> No.33054605

I fucked the law and the. law cummed

>> No.33057120
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33057120

18th for eating crabs!

>> No.33058718

I fucked all /asp/ girls and I'm not gonna take responsibility.

>> No.33058842

>>33058718
Who was the best at sex

>> No.33059064

>>33058842
Me

>> No.33059300

giving /asp/ies sadistic JOI!!

>> No.33059758

>>33059064
See I know you’re lying. You would’ve said Prim or Rev if it was true. Trust me, they’re really good at the sex game. I didn’t know how to play adult games like sex but I’m glad one of them taught me. Adults are so cool!

>> No.33060554
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33060554

On a scale of spicy foods how spicy are these? I've been eating a bunch of them since my mom gave me an entire shelf full of them. They're pretty spicy to me but not horribly so. Mine has no label on the side though but should be the same type of noodles.
I see spicy food challenges a lot and just curious where I stand and how spicy of food I'd have to get. I dont eat lots of spicy food outside of this specific brand of ramen because I never really thought spicy food makes a difference. Honestly I still don't really see the appeal of spicy food since it adds basically no additional actual flavor except pain and my life is already full of nothing but pain so that's not really a useful flavor to me. But you know those streams where people eat spicy noodles as a punishment, in comparison how hot are those compared to these and would I likely die from eating those? And in general do people like spicy food streams or is it just a punishment game thing that people like watching girls hurting themselves, I get that because I used to like the /meat/ threads before they went away and was tempted to become a /meat/ tuber but not in like the self harm way just in like drawing fanart for the related thread. But I guess the similar fetish applies for punishment games.

Anyways how hot are the noodles and is it relatively spicy for a food?
Thanks anons in advanced for answering.

Sincerely,
Anonymous vtuber.

>> No.33061156

>>33060554
I had one of these in the foil wrapped format and I'd say they're pretty spicy compared to most food I eat, but not spicy among the "spicy food" pantheon if that makes sense. The punishment noodles would destroy you compared to these.

>> No.33061489

>>33054353
Jignx!!

>> No.33061556

>>33061489
He said sex posts not sex pests

>> No.33061675
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33061675

>someone joins my stream and says hi
>I say hi back and welcome them
>they leave instantly
>no one else comes in for the rest of the stream

Feels bad bros. It feels really bad.

>> No.33061760

>>33061675
>someone joins my stream and says hi
>I say hi
>are you a girl?
>no
>okay bye
i'm not even a babi
why

>> No.33062105

Are vtuber models/rigs tax deductible as a business expense? If I got a minimum wage job I'd probably make enough to have my channel completely funded by the US government.

>> No.33062603

>>33061675
That still sounds better than streams that not a single person watched at any point. The first few of those really made the menhera flare up.

>> No.33062796

>>33062105
You need to get your shit together anon holy hell.

>> No.33062923
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33062923

>>33062603
Same. Trying to talk about whatever pops up but looking over to the viewercount and seeing 0 makes me almost want to give up on the spot sometimes.

>> No.33063120

>>33062923
You should never look at the viewer count while you stream imo.

>> No.33063303

>>33054353
Me

>> No.33065392

>>33063120
I know but I almost can't help myself. It's weird but even if I hide it, I still get the urge to look.

>> No.33065434

>>33061675
How long are you streaming for? I think one mistake that lots of newbies make is not streaming for long enough sessions. I do understand that it isnt easy at first though.

>> No.33065740

>>33063120
I noticed it when I looked at the stats afterward. After it happened several times it's in the back of your mind even if you hide the number.

>> No.33066048

>>33062923
do collabs
with me ;_;

>> No.33066357

>>33066048
Collabs are a bad way to build an audience

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>> No.33067167

>>33058842
From best to worst.
Rev > Prim > Ain > Ragdoll > Xia > the rest

>> No.33067176

>>33066927
When was the last time you streamed?

>> No.33067241

Can you manufacture passion?
I'm trucking along because I want to do this, it's very hard for me to make motivation to do anything, but the moment I take anything past the concept stage I stop being raring to go and just take things slowly and lazily, no all-nighters, no forgetting to eat because I'm too engrossed in my work, I just do it like a second job that I'm choosing to do instead of being forced to to live.

>> No.33067641

>>33051316
do corpo tubers get to choose the models they have? like did gura say "i want to be a shark" or did they already have it made?

>> No.33067795

>>33067641
depends on company.
niji and holo its usually premade/

>> No.33067877

>>33065434
I stream for about an hour or so. Today though I streamed for 2. I find it hard to focus for long periods of time so that's usually my limit.
>>33066048
Sorry bro, but I wanna grow myself some first.

>> No.33068141

>>33067795
how do you know? i thought the point of the audition video was to audition as a character

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33068168

>>33067176
Streamed?

>> No.33068276

>>33068141
The audition video literally doesn't matter, they're looking at your socials, your numbers, and your voice.

>> No.33068687

i made it to an agency lads. i wont say which one or when i debut, but ill never forget my roots /asp/ies

hope you make it too

>> No.33068980

>>33068276
i know, it just seems stupid to have characters already made without knowing what kind of ppl will apply

>> No.33069064

>>33068980
Because the "character" doesn't matter.

>> No.33069100

>>33068687
Are you gonna leave the cord?

>> No.33069548

>>33069100
never been in the cord lmao i never wanted to touch that shit

>> No.33069571

>>33068141
its to show that you can.
but niji and holo have both talked about it, and in the past they usually audition with the silhouettes revealed in advance.

both companies the talents claim they have some minor input later on, so things like accessories or minor expression things. but the design is already made.

>> No.33069735

>>33069064
isnt the character the whole appeal of vtubers though? having a model youre comfortable with seems pretty important

>> No.33069862

>>33069548
Holy based.

>> No.33069920

>>33069735
if you're a talented streamer and a charismatic person, you'll be able to make whatever character you're given work out. Example: magni

>> No.33070080

>>33068687
Make a reference to here so we know it's you

>> No.33070139

Who is the actual audience for Male vtubers on Twitch? Their designs are either the most vanilla "generic shojo-man" in ordinary clothes or utterly disgusting abominations. I can't figure out if the designs actual appeal to women or if they just managed to find an audience. Most soulful design I've found so far is dude with what looks like a runescape dwarf singing sea shanties.

>> No.33070203

>>33069571
why bother doing separate auds then? i dont understand why they reveal the silhouttes for some auditions and others they keep it a secret

>> No.33070264

>>33069920
bad example, he was going to be liked regardless because he's in hololive and that's literally all it takes to be liked

>> No.33070427

>>33070139
Take the babi pill

>> No.33070503

>>33070203
might not entirely be set in stone.

like literally every question ever asked in the world, the answer is always
>it depends
but typically speaking, the design is set for the large corps.

>> No.33070599

>>33070139
i have a very cute-leaning male model and I get lots of female attention. unprompted off-stream follows from girls, random women stopping by and commenting on how cute I am, femlurkers etc.

>> No.33070820

>>33067877
Go for 2 hours at least if you can. As somebody with few to no followers your viewcount is probably going to be peaking past the 2 hour mark, so at least try to make it that far at least.

>> No.33071569

Anyone get a view on their Nijisanji Gamers audition yet? Should I give up hope or is it too early to lose faith

>> No.33071682

>>33071569
it's over chase

>> No.33071734

>>33069735
>isnt the character the whole appeal of vtubers though?
Only to autists like you and me.
Nobody else cares. Not normies, not even the people in these threads.

>> No.33071955

>>33070139
>Their designs are either the most vanilla "generic shojo-man" in ordinary clothes or utterly disgusting abominations
What if I'm going for something in the exact middle of this

>> No.33071977

>>33071569
i dont know how to tell you this, but they are already on phase 2, the interviews.
They number filtered, and focused on what you responded on the experience with e-sports more than anything else.

>> No.33072013

>>33068980
Big corps are basically auditioning for the character archetypes that will fit the various characters that have already been made, its not really all that different from casting for a movie really.

I think the reason they do it like this is because of how long it likely takes to design, draw, and rig a very high quality live 2d. Especially the designing phase probably gets stuck in corporate meeting hell getting redesigned and changed over and over again. And all the really good riggers and artists are so over worked and backed up these days being able to get a 5 man gen of chuubas to all be finished at the same time might take 6 months or so I bet. So auditioning and just having the talents sitting on their hands for half a year is just not something you can do.

Some of the best sounding advice I have heard for auditioning to the big corps is just to go all in on trying to play a certain stereotypical character archetype and hope that one of their already planned characters will fit that archetype well.

>> No.33072042

>>33071682
I'm not Chase faggot god forbid other people apply to a company

>> No.33072137

>>33070139
I like my design, it's gonna be fun once i get the model.

>> No.33072180

>>33072013
> its not really all that different from casting for a movie really.
Thats wrong tho. Auditioning for a film, you go in and you already know what the character you're gonna audition is, their backstory, their dialogue, how they should sound, etc.
While corpos sometimes show their models for you to audition for, its not always, and its more like fitting your personality into one of these drawings theyve already made.

>> No.33072338

>>33071955
If your character isn't "Big brother character with 5 minutes of screentime throughout the whole show" or "tattooed up skinhead but with anime hair" then your already ahead of 90% of your competition.

>> No.33072367

>>33071977
I doubt many professionals applied since they already have pre-existing contracts. This could be copium but still I'm not sure they found everyone quite yet. Maybe I should take the L and believe you

>> No.33072917

>>33072367
Well obviously they aren't hiring top players, because they wouldnt apply, but they still looked into who that applied has the most success and most potential out of everyone that applied.

>> No.33073143

>>33072338
nice

>> No.33073313

>>33072917
I have a pretty extensive background in esports so if they passed me up I'd be genuinely surprised, I definitely would've passed the number filter

>> No.33073353

>>33072367
If it makes you feel any better, no one here was qualified to join in, its a very high bar of wanting people that play popular e-sports games at pro level AND that have background in content creation/streaming. People I've seen online decided to opt out and not even apply (and I know the whole "you miss 100% of all shots you don't make" but at the same time, sometimes you just know its not the right wave for you) because of what they were clearly looking for.
Also, not sure why even apply to Nijisanji, they seem to have the most extreme filtering process of them all, and I can't blame them. I'm in other aspiring vtuber discords (not associated with 4chan) and the ammount of barely 18 yo girls that applied to this wave, putting on a very painful deep voice that didn't even sound like it could pass for a boy, was outstanding. They waste people's time so Niji has to resort to filtering.

>> No.33073352

I want to do a Big October Bash for Halloween where I crank it to 11 and make something every single day but I'm wondering if this would have any purpose if I'm a 0view? Do events pull in viewers or are they only good for existing viewers?

>> No.33073486

>>33073352
a couple of chuubas did singing march where they put out short covers every day for the entire month of march but i dunno if it did much for their numbers but it was a good way to do reps

>> No.33073516

>>33073313
>Starsector, Rimworld, Faster Than Light, and Highfleet
No one cares about those games

>> No.33073739

>>33073353
For the sake of not doxxing myself the only thing I'll say is that I'm a 4 view. I'm not some random 2 view trying to make it big, I surpass the bar by a mile. I applied for fun, it seems like a good time despite already having a big community, I wanted a change of pace. If I don't get in nothing will change, it just makes me wonder about the other candidates because of the circumstances I mentioned previously. Oh well

>> No.33074222

>>33073739
You are not in the /asp/ discord are you?
I was talking about who mostly lurks/uses these threads which are from 0view nobodies to barely 2views that think they're hot shit.
If you're a 4view, then I guess you might have a chance but there are a-many reasons why you can still get filtered out, including having a bad video or even them not liking your voice, who know. But why are you even here, go to /wvt/.

>> No.33074553

>>33074222
No, I'm a tourist. I just wanted to see if anyone had gotten a view since there's a track record of Niji members talking here before they got in. I figured poking around wouldn't hurt much

>> No.33074997

>>33074553
Alright then

>> No.33075058

>>33074553
>there's a track record of Niji members talking here before they got in
Never happened

>> No.33075347

>>33075058
>vox
>kyo

>> No.33075571

>>33072013
just curious, how do you know? have they talked abt it before? (niji or holo)

>> No.33075656

>see twitch top charts
>all spanish speaking
I knew I should've never dropped that Spanish class. . .

>> No.33075692

>>33067167
Xia and Juniper I kinda get because they strike me as "not sex-havers"

>Rev > Prim > Ain
lol the virgin sucks at secks also elaborate on rev being the highest

>> No.33075997

>>33075656
no te rajes

>> No.33076027

>>33075656
>Spanish is mother language
>have no idea where to shill myself to other latams
pain peko.
No, I am not Alto you dummies.

>> No.33076096

>>33076027
Alto...

>> No.33076270

>>33076096
I SAID I'M NOT ALTO YOU DUMMY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Jesus fuck do they literally have to stamp their shit on everything?

>> No.33076333

>>33076096
Can confirm >>33076027 is not me, tho i still have no clue how to pander to latinos as well, voice memes haven't been doing so hot but i'm gonna do a few fandubs and see how that goes

>> No.33076471

>>33076331
I don't know I had a troon come to my chat once and I asked him he said I was being homophobic

>> No.33076495

>>33076331
It gets issued with the programming socks

>> No.33076516

>>33072013
>Especially the designing phase probably gets stuck in corporate meeting hell getting redesigned and changed over and over again.
One look at the HoloStars EN wave makes me severely doubt there's any QC over the designs there honestly.

>> No.33076529

>>33076331
Read the terms and conditions

>> No.33076696

>>33076529
This can't be real, this reads like a /pol/ shitpost/pasta.

>> No.33076953

BROS I GOT A COMMENT

>> No.33077326

>>33076333
just speak english and they will come. they can't resist talking in their language on english only channels

>> No.33077582

>>33076529
That was way worse than I expected

>> No.33077756

>>33077326
In almost a year of streaming this never happened to me

>> No.33077956

>>33068687
>>33069548
>never been in the cord lmao i never wanted to touch that shit
so it's not lex. which /asp/ie is remotely good enough to make corpo? lumi is already corpo and clauvio is about to hit partner but never applied.

>> No.33077961

>>33076953
Proud of you anon.

>> No.33078181

>>33075347
Kyo was never here you retard

>> No.33078288

>>33070599
Teach me your ways master, I want to start as a cute guy that caters to females but my voice is shit and I can't sing, is the model buff real?

>> No.33078531

>>33078288
i can imagine that it helps a lot if you don't sound like a generic nerd

>> No.33078551

>>33078288
in my experience it's very real. I will say that I've been told I have a good voice, but I don't really sing so I don't think that's 100% necessary

>> No.33078738

>>33078181
it wasn't kyo it was fulgur

>> No.33078759

>>33078288
some of the most popular male vtubers have some of the worst voices I've ever heard with the worst ESL accents too. The difference is that their vtuber model is HOT and expensive looking and they seem to get a massive female audience just because of their hot models.

>> No.33078917

>>33078738
is there any evidence besides "believe me bro"

>> No.33078972

>>33078759
What I hate about women is that they all have the exact same taste.
Any flavor or fetish of monster to girl can blow up from male coomers, but women literally only want the bog standard stock tall ikemen with the same face and eyes way too far up their head

>> No.33079089

>>33078972
How do you guys get to the point where you can talk about women like this without a hint of irony

>> No.33079395

>>33079089
It's just what happens when you aren't a standard stock tall ikemen. That's the only reason women don't want him and he's bitter and alone.

>> No.33079578

>>33070139
>Their designs are either the most vanilla "generic shojo-man"
Yeah same applies to females most are pink / blue cat, blue sea creature or big tit girl with barely a theme of some monster or creature

>> No.33079828

>>33072338
awww shit. Im pitching a big brother character but buff and with tattoos. Damn I never realizzed im so generic.

>> No.33080139

>>33079828
A big bro character fresh out of prison that's crashing on your couch and brings his shady friends around

>> No.33080220

>>33080139
what if it's little bro for me

>> No.33080229

>>33068687
Male or female?

>> No.33080267

>>33078917
there was an exchange between lex and whatever corpo shared a model artist with him before going corpo; i don't pay attention to the nijis much but i think the consensus was that it was fulgur?

>> No.33080538

any examples of chuubas that made it without networking?

>> No.33080549

>>33079578
Most males can't even be bothered to have a theme or have a outfit I couldn't buy at walmart.

>> No.33080598

>>33079395
Of course, of course.

>> No.33080700

>>33080549
To be fair there's fucking nothing men are allowed to wear compared to the infinite possibilities of female clothing

>> No.33080998

>>33070139
How do shota-models do?

>> No.33081121

>>33080998
You cannot pull off a shota.

>> No.33081155

>>33080998
I saw only one but it had a horrible squirrel voice filter, so at least you would be a niche if your voice is o'naturale.

>> No.33081321

>>33075692
>elaborate on reverie being the highest
Really? Are you serious?

>> No.33081356

What is the best kind of glasses?

>> No.33081392

>>33076331
>>33076529
What is this?

>> No.33081432

>>33081392
KUNAIII WIT CHAIN

>> No.33081472

>>33081121
Probably not. I'm not trying to, I suppose.
>>33081155
BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE MARKET LOOKS, NOT HOW EASY IT IS TO PULL IT OFF.

>> No.33081530

>>33080267
>i think the consensus was that it was fulgur?
anon mentioned a dog chuuba model and the only one that fits would be fulgur's pl

>> No.33081586

>>33081392
it's veadotube mini, a piece of software you can use for PNGtubing. it's good software and the watermark isn't visible when you use it but yeah, lots of goofy virtue signaling written into it

>> No.33081610

>>33081356
Worst irl: dat red glasses
Best animu : red megane

>> No.33081631

I hope none of you are police because then I'd have to report you to veadotube

>> No.33081681

>>33081631
Who would they report them to, the police?

>> No.33081718

>>33077956

whoever you think i am, you're probably wrong. I've never made any clear connections between 4chan and me, so

>>33080229

I'm a femanon

>> No.33081719

>>33081631
>>33081681
this is easily the funniest thing about veadotube, I agree.

>> No.33081811

>>33081321
i wasn't, actually. but i would still put prim above her.

>> No.33081859

>>33081610
Would red work with any hair or skin combo?

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>>33081859
Sure, maybe offset it a little if redhead.

>> No.33082516

>>33079089
Well to be fair women do mostly just like the ikemen models. The lack of diversity in male models because of this is very unfortunate.

>> No.33082793

>>33081811

just because prim is a slut who puts out a lot and has lots of experience lying down and opening her legs doesn’t mean she exudes sex. reverie is dripping with sex and despite being a virgin at least compared to prim completely devastated her on sexuality. very sad showing primfag.

>> No.33083140

Do you aspire to be sweaty?

>> No.33083240

>>33083140
I don't have to aspire. I'm sweaty, stinky and generally just foul scented.

>> No.33083266

>>33082793
b-but, my hag buff...

>> No.33083402

I'm trying to get back into streaming as a chuuba but I have a lot of shit tied to my social media presence seeing as I've already been streaming on my main for a while, but I really don't want to tie my identity to my stream. Should I bite the bullet and make all new accounts for everything or keep streaming as myself. On one hand I'd like to keep my community since they're all really cool people and I don't want to start up again as a 0 viewer andy but I'd rather not risk being an obscure 10 view chuuba after getting doxxed because I wouldn't just bite the bullet and make new everything. Thoughts?

>> No.33083410

>>33079395
>>33082516
Don't you guys ever think that if you knew what women wanted you might be more successful? I guess you always have keeping the artistic integrity of hoodie gamer guy aesthetic as an excuse.

>> No.33083468

>>33083266
just think about reverie in the maid dress she posted in the thread anon it will help heal you

>> No.33083546

>>33080139
That's... actually a great idea.

>> No.33083592

Everyone must wear maid outfits
Even the males, babis and ikemen

>> No.33083620

>>33083402
You overestimate the amount of shit people give about you. Unless you're doing or saying anything cancellable you can keep going with your current accounts but otherwise you can start fresh with everything but you cant really link your new account with your old one unless you tell all your existing viewers about it.

>> No.33083736

>>33083410
not interested in generic male taste either but i would probably be closer to that if women didnt like ikemen
if you want to appeal to women ikemen is the way to go
even though i think the ikemen face type is ridiculous i still went in that direction because thats my target audience

>> No.33083822
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https://www.twitch.tv/super_krunch
Minecraft stream

>> No.33084197

Why are vtuber logos so samey

>> No.33084310

>>33084197
People expect them to look a certain way so they make them that way. I was thinking about this earlier today and it does seem a little strange

>> No.33084483

>>33076516
Stars is kind of a different situation I think, doubt they had as much budget or care put into them. Its quite obvious that a lot more polish has gone into every hololive debut since, fuck, at least gen 3 than anything in stars ever. However, I don't think the designs for any of tempus are bad (as far as design goes, vesper is the worst but not horrible), the blame for the scuffed live2ds are the artists seemingly being inexperienced in creating for live2d projects, and to a lesser degree the riggers themselves. For example the artist for Magnis, whose model is certainly the most fucked, had never created a live2d model before. However if you look at just the character reference sheets for magnis the design is quite good, and even the character looks pretty good when drawn like that.

>>33075571
This is all just about holo, I don't follow Niji at all. Unfortunately I cant back it up with clips or anything since so many of these conversations have happened years ago and I just cant remember any more, but many holos have talked about this stuff.

However the last bit of advice about trying to play a specific part if you want to audition to hololive or holostars is specifically from Noir Vesper in one of his earlier zatsudans (probably in the first 2 weeks). I thought this would have been clipped specifically but I just couldn't find it. I also briefly looked at some of his zatsus but I just don't have to time to find it properly. Probably some autist in MANS would be able to find it for you if you asked nicely.

>> No.33084514

>>33084310
It’s like throw every little bit of your concept at a wall and take a picture
It’s the same as model designs too… the better designs are ones that doesn’t take things literally using obvious items and accessories and instead uses concepts. to drive the design.

>> No.33084924

>>33084514
Get this concept. A guy. BUUUUUT. Hes in a suit, right?

>> No.33084951

>>33084924
What if he had a deep voice too?

>> No.33085074

>>33084951
Woah. That would truly be unique. You definitely dont see thousands of those grooming children on VRchat

>> No.33085332

>>33085074
the thought of children using vrchat horrifies me. the thought of me using vrchat horrifies me! D:

>> No.33085388

>>33084951
Hey, add in heterochromia eyes and we got a deal.

>> No.33085484

>>33084924
>>33084951
>>33085388
Two words.
Sharp.
Teeth.

>> No.33085623

alright, I'm 0 for 3 on male vtuber design bingo so far

>> No.33085673

>>33085623
This isn't the real bingo there's no sweaters

>> No.33085680

>>33085623
that's good and well, but also recognize that popular things are popular for a reason

>> No.33085881

>>33085484
Two more words.
BARBED.
PENIS.

>> No.33085910

>>33075692
hi its me xia i have been made aware of your post and this is fucked up and wrong and p.s. i esexed your oshi.

>> No.33086043

>>33085680
I still have time to right this ship since I only exist from the waist up: >>33085881

>> No.33086222

>>33085910
Hi Xia I'd like to impregnate you

>> No.33086299

>>33085881
/asp/ies with canonically barbed penis. GO!

>> No.33086604

>>33085910
I wish I was esexed :(

>> No.33086758

>>33086222
three of the relationships digit... interdasting

>> No.33086934

>>33086604
Alto...

>> No.33087419

>>33086934
That anon wasn't me, although i also wish i was esexed

>> No.33087700

>>33084483
Went back and found it. Good advice, and I imagine it might also apply for niji and maybe some other corporations too.

https://youtu.be/YR_UHfg-3vU?t=4915

>> No.33088086

>>33087700
Watching these guys dispense so much quality advice since they've debuted has been something to behold. It's felt like the Live2D is looking directly into my soul and is begging me to do my best and apply when the time is right.

>> No.33088913

>>33088086
Maybe take your meds first

>> No.33088990

>>33088913
Nah. Suck my fuckin dick biiiiiiiiiiiitch.

>> No.33090294

>>33084483
To piggy back off this anon,
I noticed a lot of successful chuubas have very defined character traits and play them up or play to these strengths.
It’s like they are a very curated and amplified version of themselves.

>> No.33091631

Im gonna make it guys. Just you wait!

>> No.33093649

>>33091631
Don't let your dreams be dreams.

>> No.33094018

>>33086299
konrad

>> No.33096039

>>33085910
More like you’re reading every thread and constantly ego searching

>> No.33096125

>>33080538
People come to grimmi rather than her coming to others.

>> No.33096144

PNG avatar commissioned, time to do dead air reps since I'm already playing games all day

>> No.33096550

>>33096125
I come to her alright.

>> No.33097224
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Holocure again. Still discovering the new characters
https://www.twitch.tv/francisgrenouille

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkM85LyZ7UU

Swissedtoast aka YellowCat here. I've snapped. Haven't streamed in 2 months. Haven't slept. Am menhera guerrilla'ing a Iivestream for menhera featuring a live phonecall with suicide hotline.

Abusing myself live on stream! /here/ eta 5 minutes. zatsudan/podcast menhera, schizos welcome.

>> No.33097849

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>> No.33099387

>>33096550
We know visage. Then you spill your ice cream all over yourself.

>> No.33101557

>>33096550
when she goes into her deep voice it make my head dizzy

>> No.33101831

>>33099387
obsessed

>> No.33101855

>>33101831
so, yeah, see you lance

>> No.33102210

Wow I’m ready for that cup of coffee in about an hour

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>>33102210
Bean water supremacy!

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bump

>> No.33105919

>>33078972
you can sexualize your weird male designs too like krimbo and moai, but you don't know what design queues are attractive to women. all the males are making the male version of what juniper's design is and wondering why women dont want to fuck them. some goofy male designs are just vagina drying, you can't expect a design with 0 visual appeal to be liked just because its unique or "creative"

>> No.33106355

got two nice raids today, feelsgoodman

>> No.33106523

>>33105919
both of those have more viewers than the average male. it can't be just a model thing

>> No.33106614

>>33106355
Congrats, streamer!

>> No.33106757

>>33102300
I’m beaning as I type this
>>33082516
Eh, I don’t think a male vtuber’s success lives or dies purely by whether or not they look like an ikemen. It’s got mainstream appeal, but I don’t know if it would necessarily translate into keeping women invested in you in the long term, and it might even turn off some hetero men.

>> No.33107671

>>33106523
its not PURELY the models, but the models at the very least have potential to be appealing in a sexual way and not an outright debuff.

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>>33107671
i don't know who would be so horny that they start sexualizing moai

>> No.33108587

>>33108544
I would let Maoi rail me without mercy

>> No.33108770

>>33101831
Not as obsessed as you are with Grimmi!!!

>> No.33110196

Why's mirus raid retention so good? Chick got a 100 person raid and stuck around that margin for another hour or so, I don't get it

>> No.33110410

>>33110196
ASMR into ASMR raids usually hold well if the ASMR is good
also consider the previous stream might have knocked some people out

>> No.33110490

>>33110196
girl with cute model
>>33110410
she wasn't doing asmr

>> No.33110533

>>33110410
A large percentage of ASMR viewers are asleep and just getting passed around right?

>> No.33110545

>>33108770
Grimmi is old news, it's Clio for now.

>> No.33110616

I was worried about really old songs not having instrumental versions or being hard to separate the vocals because of how they sound but it turns out it sounds perfectly fine because it just feels like the exact same shitty/damaged recording sound they already have
very good news

>> No.33110719

>>33110410
Wasn't asmr. Splatoon
>>33110533
Depends really, but yeah a lot of people fall asleep

>> No.33111411

>>33110545
FOTM!!!

>> No.33111473

>>33110196
Are you a viewer or a vtuber? I hope you're not the latter with posts like this

>> No.33111555

>>33111473
>I hope you're not the latter with posts like this
It's most certainly the latter. If you're with any of the cords, you'd know

>> No.33111747

>>33111555
I've avoided those because I didn't want to bump shoulders with anybody like that. If you're really not overselling them, clearly I made a good choice. That's pathetic.

>> No.33111805

>>33111747
>If you're really not overselling them
There are receipts. The archive is waiting for you.

>> No.33111833

>>33111805
I've seen enough random screencaps in here this year; I'll just take your word for it.

>> No.33113708

Bump

>> No.33114180

>>33110616
Use Moises.

>> No.33114414

>>33114180
>sign up
nice scam, Zuckerberg

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>>33070139
I exclusively look for male vtubers on Twitch because I like anime boys and I want to find a simp target. So far most people have dogshit designs though. I'll post a male design that makes me cum buckets so maybe take inspo from that.

>> No.33115275

once again I face the not anime debuff

>> No.33115383

>>33115181
Please do, I need some inspiration for my model. Apparently is too generic

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>>33115383
I am speaking 2D exclusively here. For girls it's usually a combination of personality and appearance that is the deciding factor. Even if the man looks very hot, if he is boring, he's not gonna win more than a few who are particularly into that type.
However even if a man is ugly, if his personality is good enough, he can still gain fans who will prettify him afterwards to make him more palpable. See; Magni.

Try to remember what anime boys are consistently popular, it's usually guys with a confident attitude, whether they be relaxed, arrogant, angry, or what else, most popular characters are either very strong or have very strong personalities.

Some examples I can think of, of men who are very popular among women in the animu-sphere; Levi/Erwin (AOT), Gojo Satoru/Nanami Kento/Sukuna (JK), Uzui Tengen/Rengoku Kyojuro (KnY), Kakashi/Itachi (Naruto), Law/Ace/Zoro (OP), Howl (Howl's Moving Castle), Sebastian (Black Butler), Roy Mustang (FMA), Jojos and their Jobros (JJBA).

If you want more examples, head over to /cm/ and see what kinda characters and art get posted there. Be wary that most female consumers are not openly into shota and there's a bigger backlash for women who are into it outside of 4chan.

Posting another husbando of mine as an example.

>> No.33116294

>>33115383
Don't beat yourself over it too hard, even corpos have no idea what they are doing with male designs and they have people who are literally paid to figure this out.

>> No.33116563

>>33115919
>Even if the man looks very hot, if he is boring, he's not gonna win more than a few who are particularly into that type
but anime men are all boring

>> No.33116645

>>33115919
are there any vtuber males (/here/ or otherwise) whose designs hit those points for you?

>> No.33116695
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So I went to twitch.tv and checked out the vtuber tag and here are some thoughts. I grabbed a couple of the male tubers I saw.

worcestershire sauce here has an "okay" design, it's decently drawn, but it's a bit too manhwa for me. I clicked his stream and he has a decent voice, but I am not sure if it suits his character. Guys who have these types of voices tend to be a bit coomery, so I'd probably skip out on this guy personally.

TIGER ON THE PROWL sounds more natural to me, and his design is cute, he's also listening to citypop, which I like, so I'm probably gonna end up following him. His design appeals to those who like cuter types of men though, he's not quite ikemen.

CLICK NOW BIG NEWS has a bit of a lackluster design for me, it's too close to twinky/shota types of designs without being that entirely, and the outfit is not my type. His voice is okay, but doesn't fit the character. He's currently raving about art stuff, not sure if I like the vibe, a pass for me.

Mommy Genshin Feeds Me has a really generic design and I personally do not like it at all, the rigging is a little lackluster too and the art itself is a bit flat. It might look better from a different artist. He has a nice voice though, and seems to be reasonable in what he talks about. But I'd probably not watch actively unless he gets a model upgrade.

Co-Dee's sploot grind to ranked has the worst design of them all, the art is lackluster and the outfit is lackluster. However he will probably win some points just because he's British, but the character design is just... not it.

>> No.33116864

>>33116645
I have 0 knowledge of /here/ to be honest, if you want I can give my thoughts on some designs if they're posted here, but that's all.

What I can say is that Tempus' designs were horrendous, but their personalities saved them.

The majority of the NijiEn boys have decent designs for the female attracting archetype, with an exception of Kyo, who looks too much like a female model. There are fewer female femboy enjoyers than male, I believe, his personality wins him back with regular female fans though.

I think of all the NijiEn boys Ren Zotto probably has the best generic ikemen design, while my personal favourite is probably.... Mysta, personally.

However, Vox is number 1 for a good reason and its because his gimmick and personality matches his visuals.

>> No.33116975

>>33116695
They really weren't kidding when they said every male is generic as sin holy SHIT

>> No.33117112

>>33116864
I think the easiest compilation of /here/ designs would be either the tiermaker or the reference sheet list in /wvt/
https://tiermaker.com/create/-wvt--tierlist-v4-15166514
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GqDE0jDIFNw_GyHyHW4qA_ndlaHyXqFv

>> No.33117219

I'm glad xiasigns' savior/superiority complex keeps her coming back /here/

>> No.33117412

>>33116975
5 minutes in any mmo with transmog is enough to know 95% of the population can't be trusting to design outfits and likely wear only cargo shorts.

>> No.33117692

>>33117412
>for honor
>everyone either running around like a clown or using a default outfit
>ark
>everyone going "THAT LOOKS SO GOOD WOAH" when they see an eye-searingly bright randomly rainbow painted neon event dino
maybe you're right

>> No.33117743

>>33117412
My character is very cute and I will not suffer you insulting her. (she is a frog with armor)
>>33117112
Not really a good compilation of /here/ designs since the new tiermaker missed many of the males, and the reference sheet list is also missing some.

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>>33117112
>>33117743
I just went for this and tried picking the females, but... damn, you guys... Well, this is how I feel about the majority of the designs here... Don't take it personal, I know nothing of your content.

>> No.33117854

>>33117798
tried not picking the females*

>> No.33117894

>>33117798
Ain...
Bird...
Bodega...
Meat...
Toma...

>> No.33117920

>>33117692
Look up a picture of a FFXIV capital city and at least 25% of the people are cats wearing the exact same "street" outfit or puffy jacket with fur on the collar.

>> No.33118046

>>33117798
You know as much as we shit on generic ikemen an outside voice really puts in perspective just how fucking ugly /we/ are in general

>> No.33118274

>>33117798
this anon just wants to get boned

>> No.33118352

>>33117798
I think Ain drawn in a "proper" vtuber style could be cute.

>> No.33118398

>>33118274
genuinely the only criteria I can make out is that they like skeletons
like, I thought this was a "this makes me wet" tier list, is Gondola a joke answer? Why are Jones and Pestis in top tier but Kabhaal and Leonidas are mid?

>> No.33118403

>>33118352
Her live2d model was a big downgrade from the cute chibi.

>> No.33118522

>>33118403
fr, all style gone in an instant for the most "vtuber" thing you could imagine. The eyes and scales just look really bad as well, they're not even ugly in an aesthetic way.

>> No.33118547

>>33118398
The non-animu designs in the top tier are funny enough to circumvent the requirement to be hot.

>> No.33118674

>>33118403
How you fuck up fire keeper with cute braids?

>> No.33118726

>>33118674
Wanted to be a monster girl despite having no sense of aesthetic

>> No.33118825

>>33118726
Many such cases.

>> No.33118909

>>33117798
Btw, can I have the contact info for Wise............ I already found Deku, but Wise is cute too.

>> No.33119034

>>33118909
https://twitter.com/WISEAIVtuber
He's boring as well desu but he has good designs for sure

>> No.33119140

His design gets worse when you have to be reminded he's an owl and not a moth

>> No.33119308

>>33119140
Obviously he's an owl, what kind of man has feminine moth antennae like that?

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I was as objective as possible I can only see what's on the image given this is just model impressions.

>> No.33119404

How do you guys collab with others? I feel like I would just get rejected cause I think others just see me as a fan instead of a peer.

>> No.33119410

>>33117112
>>33117798
I'm so happy MEIN NEGGER DEKU is on this. HE'S GONNA MAKE IT VROS.

>> No.33119422

>>33119404
>rejecting your fans

>> No.33119441

>>33119403
you have awful taste man

>> No.33119457

>>33119403
Cublala my beloved...

>> No.33119952

>>33119404
make enough content that YOU PERSONALLY feel like you are no longer a mere fan.

>> No.33120248

Gonna make an updated version of the /here/ designs tiermaker, who do you want me to add

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>>33120248
https://twitter.com/busujimabibi

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I think I understand why I hate Altares design so much. It's as if someone took Raze's design from Mana khemia and decided to make it worse in every way.

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whatever happened to gura poster? why didn't he move onto another femboy once maple graduated? did we scare him away /asp/?

>> No.33121035

>>33120811
Maple's menhera scared him away
Probably thought he killed him off himself

>> No.33121200

>>33120248
Don't add the person who DMed about not being in the list a month ago. That person is probably not going to be a vtuber anymore.

>> No.33121285

>>33119404
I'll collab with anyone if they ask me.

>> No.33121408

>>33121285
Wanna collab?

>> No.33121487

>>33120248
Jignx...

>> No.33121515

>>33051316
WATCH SONY BURN TONIGHT w/ME!! 6PM EST!!!

MOONLIIGHT-CHAN GAZES: Sony STATE OF PLAY 2022 https://youtu.be/o0OkrlP1b-I

>> No.33121551

>>33120248
The turok dude, I forget his name.

>> No.33121629

>>33121408
Yeah man drop a link and I'll add you.

>> No.33121758

Did Elden Ring anon ever find someone stupid enough to collab with him?

>> No.33122174

>>33121758
I dunno, but I’m happy I could at least convince him to play the Dark Souls games in order when he gets around to them instead of playing them backwards (???)

>> No.33122531

I’m not ugly… I’m cute ;_;

>> No.33122690

>>33122531
Ragdoll I love you too even if you don't feel the same way.

>> No.33122720

I should've picked a chuuni design before becoming a vtuber...

>> No.33122819

>>33122720
Is that a freaking Kaiser reference

>> No.33122844

I'm going to stream today!
I'm gonna do it!!

>> No.33122859

>>33122690
I’m not June, but I’m sure she would appreciate it all the same

>> No.33122911

Aliens are just space elves

>> No.33122983

>>33118046
Most of the people there just have no budget or did everything themselves. It's pretty natural that few of their designs would be good.

>> No.33123002

>>33119308
i don't think they're talking abt me but funny story, one of the refs i gave my art mum for my model was mumei :D

>> No.33123099

>>33122911
Humans are just elves to cats and dogs

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male vtubers can get viewers too. even more than many of the females here

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>>33120248

>> No.33123534

>>33120248
Add me please

>> No.33123598

>>33123149
this mentally destroys the viewercorder

>> No.33123669

>>33123514
Sexcat

>> No.33123703

>>33123514
Schizo cat
Blocking people for no good reason
Calling people rude things

>> No.33123812

>>33123099
Magical.

>> No.33123838

>>33123703
aspcord piss their pants in fear when they see her

>> No.33123964

My menhera is overflowing. Maybe one day I'll get back into my groove.
Every time I think about starting up my stream I worry for hours that I'll be too depressed to be entertaining or unable to think of conversation topics. Then when I muster up the courage to go live I am so happy when my viewers show up and talk with me anyway and I remember why I fell in love with streaming. But what if they don't show up this time? What if I just have a depressing stream where I'm too lethargic to be entertaining and give those few loyal viewers a subpar experience.
I wish I could be the chuuba they all see in me.

>> No.33124277

>>33123964
>I wish I could be the chuuba they all see in me.
Clearly you already are or they wouldn't show up you fuckin' HOMO. Keep on trying. Maybe take better care of your health so your brain isn't overheating all the time.

>> No.33124899

>>33120248
https://twitter.com/CryptidKliffoth

>> No.33124921

If you could change a babi’s design, who would it be and how would you change it?

>> No.33124961

>>33119404
I just ask "Hey, would you like to learn how to play mahjong?" or "Would you like to play mahjong together?" and more often than not they say yes, and i'm not even a 2view

>> No.33125041

>>33120248
https://www.twitter.com/alto_walker_

>> No.33125300

>>33120248
https://twitter.com/MapleMelodyVT

>> No.33125367

>>33124921
I'd change Knight Chase's design to be sitting on my cock

>> No.33126301

>>33120248
https://twitter.com/eraxs3
new pfp

>> No.33126439

The "never leave /asp/ and only stream collabs together" gang are desperate to get on the tiermaker.

>> No.33126569

>>33126439
Funny how Primrose snubbed the biggest /asp/ attention whores

>> No.33126831

>>33126569
Because it's a /wvt/ list she only added the ones who moved there instead of being a perma-/asp/ie.

>> No.33127078

I DM'd someone on twitter who has a common interest but they don't seem very interested in talking... Do you just have to keep going until you find someone receptive to chatting about stuff?
I don't know if I'm cut out for Twitter networking, this hurts ._.

>> No.33127435

>>33127078
personally i find it much better to do it in twitch chat first because as a viewer you are slightly more valuable as oppose to a weirdo in dms that might not even give them viewership

>> No.33127489

>>33127435
yeah that's fair, maybe this wasn't the best way to approach it

>> No.33127507

>>33127078
Don't take it personally. I'm bad about keeping up conversations even with people I like because I don't like chatting in general. I'm probably not the only one like this.

>> No.33127601

>>33127507
surprisingly common problem with vtubers. would have expected that this hobby attracts the most confident extroverts but the opposite ended up happening

>> No.33128434

>>33127601
Is it really a problem though?

>> No.33128556

>>33128434
i would say that it is if these people also want to interact with each other

>> No.33129410

Jwu who the fuck is nicecream

>> No.33129471
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33129471

>>33123514
model was updated

>> No.33129523

>>33129410
one of kaiser's ERP buddies

>> No.33129821

>>33129471
Can just tell you're a babi

>> No.33129988

>>33129821
seethe and dilate

>> No.33130063

I never shilled here but 90% of the viewers that come in my chat are all streamers them selves

Does twitch have more fucking streamers than actual people going to watch it. im about to take the YouTube pill

>> No.33130068

>>33129988
lol

>> No.33130163

>>33129821
all fem chuubas in asp are babis, they are not real
all of us are babis, babis dominate everything
they should give attention to us babis, we are better, better than hololive

>> No.33130210

>>33130163
Babis ran this thread into the ground

>> No.33130408

>>33121200
they’ll have no idea who that is because it’s a different person putting it together. my words in private still stand.

>> No.33130412

>>33130063
All the actual viewers are gonna watch the 1k+ ccv content creators, not the sub 10 viewer ones.

>> No.33130458

>>33130412
Yea this except for a small few. Mostly will just be other vtubers trying to network and watch other small people trying to make it like themselves

>> No.33130679

>>33130063
I've shilled here and none of my regular viewers are streamers. Honestly not sure why.

>> No.33130739

>>33120248
You should wait a few days to add the regulars who post their stream links here.

>>33123964
Stream you coward. Those viewers are there because they like you regardless of what kind of energy you bring. If you're that scared of losing your loyal viewers then make a fan discord so you can drop by and see how everyone is doing.

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