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33004237 No.33004237 [Reply] [Original]

Isn't it kinda sad how Youtube memberships are just supposed to be a means for content creators to get some monetary support from their viewers and optionally in return they make content that is similar to what they already do but just a bit of extra and exclusive, or its early content for members that they will make public a few days later.
Now though thanks to vtubers, its essentially become a way to fragment a part of their viewers to form a very loyal fanbase by having a place where they are "more real" and divulge more of their personal life/status. Even if you already watch most of their content enough to get the label of the fanbase name, you can't quite call yourself a "true fan", hell some of them even make a distinction between their fanbase themselves for members like Teamates vs Investigators for Ame's fanbase.

>> No.33004336

I'm sorry you can't afford 1 to 6 dollars a month.

>> No.33004347

no not really

>> No.33007794

>>33004237
its literally five dollars what do you want them to do

>> No.33007986

>>33007794
Just to not do parasocial shit on their members.

>> No.33008109

I think you are overthinking things. If you can't afford $5 a month to support someone you enjoy for their content, then I think you might have bigger financial problems to worry about.

>> No.33008183
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>>33004237
Shion yo I miss you

>> No.33008243

>>33008109
where the fuck is that video of the twitch commie ethot seething over not getting subs

>> No.33008934

>>33004237
Imagine feeling bullied by a bunch of people who unironically pay to watch a gaming stream.

>> No.33009197

>>33007986
then don't membership.

>> No.33009200

Literally every other fanbase sees paywalling content, no matter how small or big of a fee, is bullshit.
Yet VTuber fans are okay with it. Explain.

>> No.33009716

>>33004336
>>33007794
>>33008109

I guess this is true for one channel but how many channels do people watch?

>> No.33009802

>>33004237
my oshi sets her membership to $1 and only considers it as a way to unlock emotes. she doesn't do any members-only streams or content.

>> No.33010263

>>33004237
I'm sorry to hear that your oshi has to hide behind a paywall.

>> No.33010380

>>33009200
It depends on the creator in the end, you probably only see the negative ones
The most common acceptable memberships are usually the ones that provided early access to content and emotes
Paywalling Live chat is a mixed bag since it is also a way to filter trolls and spam

>> No.33013948

>>33004237
>Isn't it kinda sad how Youtube memberships are
greynigger talk

>> No.33016622

>>33004237
The issue is the secrecy. Why should I pay for some vague promise of better content? I prefer making informed decisions. Anyone who'd shit on this and go "OH MO MO MO MY HECKIN SEKRIT CONTENT" is literally a bootlicking tourist faggot. It doesn't matter how good your member content is if it's not properly advertised.

>> No.33016703

>>33009200
there's tons of normie youtubers that have patreon exclusive or early access content, what are you talking about

>> No.33016776

>>33004237
Can’t relate, my oshi is Watame. Everyone gets membersheep.

>> No.33017311

>>33008934
I used my membership gaming stream to come in 1st and make sure all the other fans AND my oshi know their place

>> No.33017550

>>33016776
Give me membersheep

>> No.33018885

>>33007986
Streaming is inherently parasocial. This is literally Streaming 101.
I wouldn't even watch any streamer who tried to pull the
>parasocial is le bad
shtick.

>> No.33019825

>>33004237
watch better chuubas

>> No.33019920

>>33004237
Membership content is generally trash. You pay for membership to get a better version of the base content, not the talent completely breaking character and just complaining and crying about their private life or acting like a total e-prostitute.

>> No.33019944

>>33009200
They're cuter

Honestly yeah it's bizarre to see, considering the Twitch userbase absolutely shat on the idea of sub-only streams years ago

>> No.33020097

>>33019944
The Twitch userbase only sees streamers as entertainers, so it makes sense.
The idea of "keeping more private matters to membership" is seen by them as "parasocial" behaviour, which they have a massive hate boner for.
Meanwhile, the Japanese have always taken the view of "put your money where your mouth is" regarding supporting content creators. That's one of the reason why they're so autistic over piracy over there.

>> No.33020205

>>33004237
I don't understand why you would member a huge vtuber for anything besides emotes. Member streams will still have 100s or 1000s of people so it doesn't matter.

>> No.33020743

>>33009200
I can tell you never really watched someone like CGP grey if you believe that

>> No.33023669

>>33016622
have you tried checking playlists? most vtubers usually have the mengen videos in one and you can at least check what they're about going by the titles

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>>33004336
aw yeah feels good being a TRUE AND HONEST chumbud

>> No.33023922

>>33009200
Podcasts have bonus hours/bonus content behind a patreon all the time. But its not the main attraction of their content

>> No.33023979

>>33004237
>hell some of them even make a distinction between their fanbase themselves for members like Teamates vs Investigators for Ame's fanbase.
kek wtf does ame really do that? what a creative dad

>> No.33024130

>>33004237
easy solution: stop being broke

>> No.33029596

>>33020097
And then they throw a shitfit when Asmongold wants to take a day off. Really, they’re just in denial about being parasocial because they only see it through that culture war lens where it represents “toxic idol culture”, when, going by the phenomena that the term was coined for, their grandparents were parasocial for Walter Cronkite.

>> No.33030099

>>33004237
awww

>> No.33035569

>>33004237
mucho texto

>> No.33035902

>>33004237
Yeah.... What is Patreon btw?

>> No.33035974

>>33023837
Based.

>> No.33036116

Memberships on YouTube should be seen like subscriptions on Twitch. A means to support the streamer while having access to channel emotes. I've seen my share of membership streams now that I can say that the promise of them isn't worth paying for, nor should the streamer be expected to do closed streams.

All streams should be free. I'd still keep my membership with my oshi if she never did a membership stream again.

>> No.33036416

>>33009200
I'm ok with paywalling content. This is the only way companies listen to customers: when they're actively giving them money.
You're actively shaping the girl's content with your membership. They pay attention to what streams makes people join and what content makes people drop their membership.
If you're a grey you're at the whim and mercy of the members.

>> No.33036482

I stopped the membership on my chuuba when she started doing member streams where she talked about behind the scenes/personal life stuff
if that's what they think people who support them want I'd rather just spend my 5 euro on someone else that uses the timeslot for a proper stream instead

>> No.33036766

>>33009200
Vtubing is built on extracting money from lonely virgins

>> No.33036858

>>33036482
Same. It ruins the character they're suppose to role play as in the company, not bleed their irl persona into it.

>> No.33037320

My oshi has several tiers of memberships, but explicitly states that there's no difference between them besides the extra monetary support. And even then, the only benefit of being a member is early sneak peaks at models and artwork to be featured in the future.
You see, a respectable vtuber makes content as a fun hobby to make her viewers laugh. The donations are just a way to help fund expensive art, models, hardware, and software. The fans should benefit just as much from donating as the vtuber does herself.
I don't subscribe to fakers who view this hobby as a means of extracting money from randos online. Vtubing is supposed to be interactive for all parties involved.
Agencies tend to ruin this by turning their vtubers into commodities.

>> No.33037367

It’s just 5 fucking bucks? Memberships are a good way to filter insufferable greynames and bandwagoners from Twitter

>> No.33037706

>>33029596
>And then they throw a shitfit when Asmongold wants to take a day off
Are the sources the voices in your head? Twitter is not reality

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>>33037367
>It's just...

>> No.33038283

>>33037706
I’ll admit it’s been a while since I’ve seen the source. There was an article link posted some time in the past couple of months.

>> No.33038376

>>33004237
I love my oshi's members only streams where she has a deep freetalks and gets more personal with us. Wouldn't want her to do "normal" content there. Random greyniggers being left out is only a plus.

>> No.33038612

>>33009200
>Literally every other fanbase
Weird I never see that. I suggest you to get a job.

>> No.33039511

>>33016622
I'm pretty sure any fan will get you an overview of what their oshi's membership content is about. And this won't require them to share anything specific to provide you with enough information to decide to try it.

>>33019920
>You pay for membership to get a better version of the base content
Now, hiding actual content or gimping your general streams to boost membership would be a really greedy move. A little behind the scenes for the loyal fans I find perfectly acceptable.

>>33036482
>if that's what they think people who support them want
Some people are interested in exactly that, though?

>> No.33039756

>>33039511
>Some people are interested in exactly that, though?
of course, I didn't say their thoughts were unjustified, just that if that's on their mind and they act towards it, it will only propagate and be expected and I'm not interested in that

>> No.33043087

>>33004237
>and optionally in return they make content that is similar to what they already do but just a bit of extra and exclusive,
Read the policy retard. It's not optional. If they have membership they have to offer something for it and if they fail to do so they can have it removed. Didn't read the rest of your post faggot.

>> No.33047291

>>33004237
Yeah. I wish there was an option for streamers to remove icons and green names for members. Some have said they didn't like how those who paid became more "real" fans that those who didn't, and that those who didn't were less likely to comment

>> No.33051162

>>33047291
>Some have said they didn't like how those who paid became more "real" fans that those who didn't, and that those who didn't were less likely to comment
Good, pay up or shut up

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