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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.32971995

how do we save holoEN?

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>> No.32972022

/#/ is declining

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EN 3 doko

next week

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>Kills HoloEN

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>41,806: Subaru (Hololive)
>32,344: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,232: Gura (Hololive)
>30,070: Korone (Hololive)
>29,828: Lily Linglan (The Box)
>28,990: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>26,625: Miko (Hololive)
>19,759: Okayu (Hololive)
>19,095: Salome (Nijisanji)
>17,831: Polka (Hololive)
>17,481: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>17,257: Salome (Nijisanji)
>15,342: Lamy (Hololive)
>14,903: Met (774 Inc.)
>14,577: Luna (Hololive)
>14,349: Watame (Hololive)
>14,079: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,069: GatchmanV (indie)
>12,212: Nene (Hololive)
>11,995: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,939: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,145: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,861: Bae (Hololive)
>10,720: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,278: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,033: Haachama (Hololive)

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>> No.32972051

>>kill holoen in the process
>They just did
nah as much as people like to shitpost they havent killed anything but themselves (tempus) from the looks of it especially with magni going all in with twitch crowd integration.

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>>32972038
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ayame, Marine, Pekora
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Miko, Sora, Subaru

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
161x: Hololive
83x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
32x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
15x: Miko
10x: Subaru
9x:Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.32972078

>>32971995
Only they can save themselves, waiting for someone to save them is just pure laziness

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>>32972038
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ayame, Marine, Pekora
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Miko, Sora, Subaru

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
160x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
31x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
15x: Miko
10x: Subaru
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>Rye got kicked out of EN3 due to one of her fans posting her discord posts
>ryeschizo posting them here was the reason why she got kicked out of en3
Imagine if your retardation was the cause of your oshi losing her big break

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>>32972052

>> No.32972134

>>32972051
Honestly it's more like HoloEN killed themselves, they totally have the rights to reject Tempus collab but they didn't, despite knowing their audience don't like it
It's just a case of EN not knowing their audience and "I can do whatever I want, if you don't like it fuck off" mentality

>> No.32972136

>>32972025
It's with Griffith Guts, better chase him again

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>>32972116

>> No.32972168

I pray to god at the end of this stream Kiara announces her graduation. With her and Sana gone holoEN would've eliminated 2 of their biggest failures.

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>> No.32972208

>>32972168
>More homobeggar tears
Delicious, now go back to Twitch faggot

>> No.32972215

>>32972168
seethe

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>>32972165

>> No.32972226

>>32972040
>>32972101
>>32972156
Those ain't rye, who are you all

>> No.32972233

>>32972134
>Honestly it's more like HoloEN killed themselves
Nah holoen is doing ok since the usual suspects are bae, ame and mori and now after the kronii drama i suspect the other girls aside from the usual suspects are hesitant to do future collabs with them apart from the ones they have agreed before the drama.

>> No.32972238

Depend on what you define as "kill HoloEN". I don't think it'd kill the branch viewership cuz casual audience who take the biggest percentage is very lenient to mixed. What it'd kill however, is dedicated fan which also contain the girls themselves, girls like Gura, Fauna, Mumei would never join HoloEN in the future, girls like Irys would still be trying for HoloJP.

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>>32972219

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>>32972254

>> No.32972305

when will this thread use its influential status to erase Tempiss from the map?

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So this was a raid with about 2k people and only 1184 of them made it to the other stream.

>> No.32972344

>>32972025
ID 3D debuts next week. EN has been abandoned by Cover.

>> No.32972346

>>32972134
One schizo here a couple months ago said that there was a change in EN management and the new people are all Twitter trannies in spirit and want to de-idolize the branch to own the anime incels.
Gura added "idol" to her bio in protest.
I'm starting to beleb.

>> No.32972349

>>32972305
just let them do more collabs with bae, mori, kobo etc since they seem to bleed numbers after each collab.

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>>32972303

>>32972326
Time to watch the another 500 bleed out

>> No.32972357

>>32972238
IRyS tried so hard to become HoloJP at time I kind of feel bad for her

>> No.32972365

>>32972305
If the OTV collab isn’t some BS someone made up. Especially since I doubt that Noir would be the one announcing it

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>>32972022
Hey man

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>>32972356

>>32972365
Yea another anon said there was no mention of it in /mans/ so I will take it with a grain of salt for now.

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>> No.32972435

>>32972365
otv has been talking about doing a collab with some vtubers so if its an among us collab it might be tempus

>> No.32972436

>How do we save HoloEN
Remember HoloEN keeps mogging nijien in cripple gold drives nijisisters crazy so they keep making these bait posts

>> No.32972461

>Vesper with another 200 members this stream
I thought he was doing bad bros? Why is he at 3000 members now?

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>>32972411

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>> No.32972499

>>32972435
magni already a collab lined up with scarra in a few days no?

>> No.32972498

>>32972461
Bots

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>>32972467

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Tempus is not growing and is not making the rest of the branch grow, that's a bad sign. Anyone have Iluna's last month's subs to compare?

>> No.32972518

>nijiniggers try to attack Tempus to distract people from the failure of ILuna
Don't let them fool you, numberchads

>> No.32972519

huh, ame is at the top of lsf

>> No.32972531 [DELETED] 

>>32972411
the only mention i could find of "OTV" in the last 2 mans threads was posted after otv got mentioned here

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>>32972505

>> No.32972561

>>32972365
>>32972435
Better question is why the fuck would you care if they collabed with otv and friends
Half of them have moved over to youtube (lily, sykkuno, fuslie), poki basically retired from streaming and toast is literally one of the first streamers who broke off twitch back in the day. Their fans are the complete opposite of the twitch fandom everyone hates too

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>> No.32972581

>>32972518
Kill yourself retard. It’s one thing to be DOA, but it’s another thing completely to do kill your momentum because you want to be twitch faggots

>> No.32972585

>>32972519
can't wait to read a lot of very intelligent comments

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>>32972557

>> No.32972597

>>32972517
>watson has the triple zeros
grim

>> No.32972605

>>32972561
OTV is fine, but Daph was not.

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>> No.32972630

>>32972517
Well their audience are just HoloEN casual. They've yet to find a new audience (which is desu fucking hard to do)

>> No.32972641

>>32972561
>Better question is why the fuck would you care if they collabed with otv and friends
Because they are speedrunning the ollie route

>> No.32972642

>>32972517
Kinda unrelated question, wasn't there a page that showed data of people unsubscribing to a channel?

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>>32972595

>> No.32972658

>>32972585
there's a couple of weirdos at the bottom but so far the thread is fairly tame

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>> No.32972680

>>32972357
>trying to be holoJP
More like she is trying to be a vtuber while other EN vtubers are either outright sluts or twitch streamers wannabe. Even Gura was hinting about react contents. Big yikes.

>> No.32972700

>>32972642
thats the same page
if the unsubs are bigger than the subs or is significant enough then it will show there

>> No.32972707

What wrong with offlinetv ? People are not leaving them with a lot options for collabs. There not allowed to collab with an majority of the girls in holo en and Niji en is blocked all that leaves pretty much the western streamer scene plus offlinetv are pretty much on the top, vshojo and indies who are tempus and a couple of indies. If perhaps hololive fans were more accepting of stars the collabs then perhaps tempus would not collab with outsiders. Their doing the best with the hand they were dealt.

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>>32972653

>> No.32972716

>>32972461
Vesper is the only decent one hes just a pushover so he goes along with anything

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>> No.32972727

>>32972561
>Their fans are the complete opposite of the twitch fandom everyone hates too
Pretty sure their viewer have a lot of crossover with those drama faggot though. They do a lot collab.

>> No.32972747

>>32972436
I bet nijis regret pushing the retarded cripple gold shit so much.
inb4
>b-but we didn't
to this day they go "Luca is showring with a dildo up his ass, guaranteed cripple gold!"

>> No.32972752

>>32972680
>Even Gura was hinting about react contents
So gura wants to do what subaru is doing?>>32972707
see
>>32972641

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>>32972219
Superior version

>> No.32972754

>>32972517
Irys...

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>> No.32972787

>What wrong with collabing with fleshtubers?
HoloEN is dead and Tempiss killed it

>> No.32972806

>>32972707
>hololive fans
Dedicated fan don't care about Star, we've seen their chatter analysis, almost zero member chatter from the girls unlike NijiEN.

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>> No.32972814

>>32972756
based but choco should have more and ayame some

>> No.32972831

I'm glad /#/ finally realized tempiss is a liability to Holopro.

>> No.32972832

>>32972707

Homobeggar strat gonna collab them all.
If a vtuber can't grow without collab they just suck you just need to accept it.

>> No.32972849

>>32972707
>Their doing the best with the hand they were dealt.
And they are doing a retarded job with it since they seem to be going down the same road ollie went through and look at where she is now.

>> No.32972850

>>32972517
>Stars not performing well in subs.
Like is that really surprising? People that are watching Hololive for girls won't sub to male vtubers.

>> No.32972853

Is this the next flavor of holoen doomniggerdry ?

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>>32972519
twitch ruined vtubers in the west, grim

>> No.32972859

>>32972707
>There not allowed to collab with an majority of the girls in holo en
They have the entirety of HoloID and half of HoloEN. I'm not even counting StarsJP, they don't seem to either.
This is literally more than Myth had for a year. A fucking year. Yet Myth managed to carry the brand just fine. But woe is me, I'm a poor homo, how can I ever just...stream my own streams and collab with my gen.

>> No.32972858

>>32972787
Luca lost to bae today playing Holocure

>> No.32972864

>>32972707
>If perhaps hololive fans were more accepting of stars
there is the flaw in the existence of the stars branch

>> No.32972880

>>32972754
She has the lowest sub growth of the EN girls, getting close to doubled even by Kronii despite Kronii being on break constantly.

>> No.32972887

>>32972038
So the the result of Gura's work is just a mere Bronze, kek.

>> No.32972900

>>32972853
Been since the first Kronii collab. This place really becomes awful when Holo wins too much.

>> No.32972912

>>32972707
How about developing their own solo contents instead? You live and die by your solo contents right? It's been only 2 months and they are acting like desperate whores already.

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>> No.32972925

>>32972038
>10,278: Luca (Nijisanji)
Wait wasnt this supposed to challege gura for the en and gaijin gold? wtf happened

>> No.32972926

>>32972856
It's the same kind of people that think vtubers are guys/ugly girls.

>> No.32972940

>>32972853
Kiwi farm died recently

>> No.32972956
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What's with all the bait?

>> No.32972961

>>32972856
r/lsf does not represent twitch, it's just a huge circlejerk of the same 10 austin streamers

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>> No.32972967

>>32972926
I mean its kinda true though since Watame is ugly irl

>> No.32972970

Bots?
Bots

>> No.32972974 [DELETED] 

>>32972707
>If perhaps hololive fans were more accepting of stars the collabs
nigga, myth pretty much just had themselves when it came to collabs for a whole year.

>> No.32972975

>w-well its totally okay to collab with ecelebs and fleshstreamers
you homobeggars just don't get it. hell, most "EN vtuber" fans just don't get it. I can't believe HoloEN lucked out so hard with having their biggest vtuber be Gura. Imagine if it was fucking Mori, complete branch culture destruction.

>> No.32972985

>>32972956
ENsharts are faced with their inevitable day of reckoning

>> No.32973001

>>32972707
dude you don't understand they have to materialize viewers from thin air.
OTV is by FAR the best partner for Tempus, it's a family/children oriented org, with multi-platform presence and hololive simp that know how to behave.

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>>32972561
Remember this? : https://youtu.be/Uzj-iRikUAk
Yeah,.
Fucking OTV.
kek.

>> No.32973009

>>32972940
>Kiwi farm died recently
ah so thats why there was a sudden influx of people trying to get into the rrats nest recently

>> No.32973012

>>32972956
Look at the tallies anon.

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>> No.32973021

>>32972956
>>32972940

>> No.32973025

>>32972985
>ENsharts
oh, it's SEA hours now? that explains it.

>> No.32973048

>>32972864
Yeah like being a totally different thing. When i go to buy your Thai's, i ain't gonna accept you Indian's. I have nothing against Indian food but a want Thai.

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>> No.32973063

>>32972707
You really gonna say this about the group has Mr. YOU LIVE AND DIE BY YOUR SOLO CONTENT
Seriously?

>> No.32973068

>>32973025
isnt it like 3am at sea? this is ruski/eu hours if im not mistaken

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Guys its literally impossible to be a vtuber group with limited collab options and be successful. Its unprecedented.

>> No.32973078

>>32973025
>it's SEA hours now
Bruh look at the time. SEAs are sleeping now.

>> No.32973111

I think we all can agree that any vtuber can succeed if they play a role that is comfortable or align with their real life personality. Take a look at the first army, theres no difference to their vtuber and IRL persona. It all feels natural to them. The second point on how to succeed is to never go against Hololive. Most corpos and Indies doesn't take heed in this advice and they would always fall off while the ones who follow their path, succeeds.

>> No.32973121

>>32972853
>last niji global tally win: 8 days ago
>last niji cripple tally win: 7 days ago
yea, the doomposting is gonna last a while

>> No.32973123

>>32973008
>It’s nice to have people not ask anything of you
>Leeches form twitch niggers
What a fucking faggot

>> No.32973144

>>32972961
It does represent the biggest twitch circle though. The place can be King maker, appeal to them and you'll blow up.

>> No.32973156

>>32972856
There's a significant amount of people who's knowledge of vtubers only extends to Kizuna Ai and that one babiniku who's Live2D failed mid stream years ago

>> No.32973157

This board was built by Hololive fans for Hololive fans, ofcourse its normal for people here to not like Tempus.
I cant go to Hip hop fan groups and ask hey guys please listen to Kpop

>> No.32973160

>>32972680
>>32972752
Only problem I have with react contents is that just about anyone who can do it spam it all day everyday. Like even Pekora spamming DQ seem to have more effort put into it than booting up random YouTube video and just watch it with a straight face
Copyright at least keep Hololive from spamming it, also Subaru actually watch movies and shit as well as playing game series. That is a far cry from react contents Twitch streamers are doing

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>>32972517
> last day
They're doing fine you turbonigger

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>> No.32973166

>>32973072
It is so ironic that mans are defending those shitty collabs when they agreed so much with Nowa's "you live and die by your solo contents". Myth proved that you can get audience retention as long as you are entertaining.

>> No.32973183

>>32973144
>It does represent the biggest twitch circle though
that hasnt been true since january anon

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>> No.32973210

>>32973072
hard to do with 100% of the market share and the biggest lockdown in modern history to keep people stuck in front of a television.
Hololive EN exploded in spite of Myth not thanks to it.

>> No.32973215

>>32973144
I'm surprised how easy it is for Holos to get promoted in Reddit, most other vtubers has a hard time in it. vyt is dead, Indies can't promote shit posting there while one Holotalent post gets to r/all in a few hours

>> No.32973241

>>32973001
As much as i want them to be mostly walled, this much is somewhat true. They need exposure, maybe in the future StarEN will be more closed off (if they get big enough).

>> No.32973245

>>32973157
>This board was built by Hololive fans for Hololive fans, ofcourse its normal for people here to not like Tempus.
What I don't understand is what happened, when did people turn against them? For 2 months now most of the board, /#/ included, were riding their dicks quite insufferably.
Did the troons get bored seeing a few EN collabs and fuck off?
Did people get that put off by magni collabing with some racist asian bitch?
When did they lose that invincible "lol you shitposting against DA BOYS 5k ccv best homostar numbers known to man get magged!!" defense force?

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I understand disliking Tempus and Tempus collabs.
What I don't understand is spending weeks upon weeks seething about it in fucking /#/ of all places.

>> No.32973249

>>32972922
Abayo nigs
Also the proportions for this one looks too weird

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>> No.32973267

>>32973210
>still thinking their success is due to covid
>when the lockdown came the hardest during council debut instead

>> No.32973268

>>32972517
I dunno what stars sub growth is normally like are they really having no affect on the other stars?

>> No.32973285

>>32973215
That's why we advocate for a new revolution where the r/Hololive subreddit becomes the general vtuber subreddit because they can't have all the power.

>> No.32973291

>>32973210
>he says this when the worst part of the lockdown was during council

>> No.32973301

>>32973210
>le covid meme

>> No.32973306

>>32973245
Women ruin everything, this isn’t new

>> No.32973324

>>32973121
nijibros... at least ACCELERATE will happen soon

>> No.32973325

>>32972787
Tempus having more collab partners outside of Holopro is nothing but a good thing

>> No.32973333

>>32973210
vshojo are the real drivers of the EN vtubing boom. holoEN just rode the wave and barely made an impact.

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>>32972967
You can't hide your oshi from her my friend
Many have tried, but all have failed.

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>>32973325

>> No.32973380

>>32973325
Is that why Ollie had a mental breakdown over being pump and dumped?

>> No.32973387

>>32973210
By this logic Gen5 should reign supreme. Cope as much as you want, but Myth legitimately felt unstoppable to everyone, even the japs, because of the big three :Mori (music machine), Gura (numbers/viral machine) and Ina (art machine). Ame herself was no slouch in generating viral shit either.
You can literally SEE what gave them that aura of "a cut above the rest" and tangibly argue it. What the fuck is special about Tempus? Uh...Nowa is an old guy and like, he's passionate about old millenial shit. Woah!

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>> No.32973399

>>32972707
Go away Homobeggar. Stars will never be accepted by Hololive fans so they should not be allowed to collab with anybody. If it was up to me they would be graduated tomorrow. Both JP and EN.

>> No.32973400

>>32973160
>react contents Twitch streamers are doing
Which is an opposite of what Gura want to do. She never want to mostly do react content and even acknowledge that is lazy.

>> No.32973402

>>32973325
>You live or die by your solo content

>> No.32973424

Where is Wave 7? You promised me that they would announce it by now.

>> No.32973431

>>32973380
Sure if it keeps them occupied how is that a bad thing?

>> No.32973436

>>32973245
be glad that people turned against them, better later than never. now only thing missing is people trying to get to graduate them

>> No.32973438

OK bros i have two questions.
The first is who of you is an engineer.
The second one is that if its true that collabing with males ruins your CVV, since I saw a thread 12 hours ago before I went to sleep.

>> No.32973458

>>32973400
Ehhhh she kinda tried to squirm around and justify it as not lazy

>> No.32973518

I just think it was a mistake to debut HomoEN so soon. Should have accelerated a bit and pumped up an EN gen every 8 months not 1 year, this isn't fucking JP, there was no saturation.
And then after about 4 gens (so in like half a year from now), you can safely drop HomoEN and not have to worry that suddenly males are 1/3 of your EN vtubers.

>> No.32973526

>>32973359
jokes on you since im a Soratomo

>> No.32973529

>>32973325
>outside of Holopro
grim

>> No.32973535

>>32973436
everyone now that the odds of a stars graduating it's 0%. much more probable that the holowhores will be going

>> No.32973550

>>32973438
Ame, Calli, Kronii are at all time lows this month so far but it is early so will have to see how it plays out, Bae is doing good maybe a difference in expectations or maybe there is no connection

>> No.32973562

>>32973535
it's because no is trying so far, only seething

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Why Subaru is so rapeable anons?

>> No.32973583

>>32973245
Anon, look at it this way
Tempus are talked about so much here is coz they are doing better than even their fav oshis
How many do you see talk about Noctyx? Tempus is talked about this much means people have accepted them as thriving group and now its stage 2 of brining them down

>> No.32973588

>>32973438
>The second one is that if its true that collabing with males ruins your CVV
There is no tangible evidence of this. If anything, the damage is most likely to be long term and to the branch overall, not to someone's specific CCV. I can see immediate CCV damage if someone started spamming homo collabs, but they don't do it enough to not just be "eh I won't watch this one" for most of their audience.

>> No.32973617

>>32973438
>The second one is that if its true that collabing with males ruins your CVV,
This is much more complicated than simple yes or no. It really depends.

>> No.32973618

>>32973458
It's not lazy if you're mixxing it with your usual content. Like what Subaru and Miko was doing. Just because the biggest twitchtard was abusing it doesn't mean it is entirely bad. No one would decline watching a video with your oshi once a while

>> No.32973626

>>32973562
engish

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Who's ready for wave 7
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1569030172237615105

>> No.32973645

>>32973438
Kronii, Ame and Mori are at an all time low
Tempus has started to recline after the mori collab
Bae for one reason or the other is the only one immune. Might be the protection of roberu

>> No.32973651

>>32972346
If Cover were to increase their salary by at least twice, then I'd fly to Japan and apply for a position.

>> No.32973666

Gayfaggots

>> No.32973692

>>32973438
Collabing with males causes the males ccv to drop. Magni and vesper fell of hard after the mori collab

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>>32973637

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>>32973563
There's a reason for that...

>> No.32973739

>>32973645
>Bae for one reason or the other is the only one immune
Expectations. She literally debuted with holostar cock in her mouth, whoever cared about that shit wrote her off long ago, she has no way to go but up.

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>>32973247
This is the safe place for seething. Do you really want our dear friends here to unleash themselves on the world?

>> No.32973760

>>32973721
They really are a family...

>> No.32973762

>>32973721
vague posting... I hate it

>> No.32973761

Maybe there is no EN3 because Cover saw the accounting and noted that there is no more potential growth for EN side of vtubing anymore.
>inb4 gura dino plushies.

>> No.32973795

>>32972346
>One schizo here a couple months ago said that there was a change in EN management
If were basing it on the thing nowa said earlier them the en management did get changed but not with twitter trannies but with jp managers.

>> No.32973803

>>32973637
>>32973721
I think someone in NijiEN just announced their graduation internally and now they're coping like that

>> No.32973820

>>32973721
you can tell that they are sick of collabing and hand holding new flops to any semblance of relevancy.

>> No.32973835

>>32973761
Stop being retarded.

>> No.32973839

>>32973761
not now bb, wait until october

>> No.32973841

>>32972707
Whomever pushed for Tempus is looking bad right now so they're probably desperate to boost them up even if it means dragging the HoloEN girls down or crawling to outside groups for help.

>> No.32973851

>>32973795
Didn't one of the girls (maybe Gura?) also mention changing managers?

>> No.32973884

>>32972707
Well.
It hasn't been confirmed yet.
But if it happens, I suppose it's the immediate jump from VTubers to fleshchuubas.
JP Vs worked VERY hard to get "regular" people to accept them as part of the streaming community, since the majority of people were dismissive of chuubas. And at no point has any JP Holo collabed more with people outside their branch than within.
Even HoloEN, warts and all, didn't immediately jump into the fleshchuuba sphere (except Mori, who was rightfully called out for it).

Tempus is breaking these trends. They broke the collab ban rule to collab with a cross-branch collab. And there were several more cross-branch collabs before they deigned to collab with StarsJP.

They had so far 2 collabs, and none of the one on one.
They have had more collabs with HoloEN than StarsJP.
And if the OTV thing is true, they would have more 3DPD collabs than StarsJP ones.

It's not really a good route to go down.

>> No.32973893

>>32971974
>Subtle spade

>> No.32973897

>>32973761
EN(SEA)+(CN) has huge pontential

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>>32972756
>Superior
did you just say super(ior)?

>> No.32973924

>>32973803
if that be true, check who didn't post the emoji tweet and might have a hint

>> No.32973927

>>32973637
>>32973721
nah as the only one in this thread who is in their general fanbase, this is just to reassure their fans since even in the discords majority of the people are concernposting about them being depressed

>> No.32973933

>>32973841
>Whomever pushed for Tempus is looking bad right now
We can hate on these faggots all we want, but I'm pretty sure there's no one that can possibly look bad when they managed to make holostars work. I mean what the fuck are they gonna get yelled at?
>your weaked EN homo has a 40% higher average than our strongest JP homo. unnaceptaburu

>> No.32973940

>>32973851
I think she was the one that said that Jenma has more power now.

>> No.32973946

>>32973893
kill yourself burger-kun

>> No.32973964

>>32973897
EN already has the SEA market, have you seen their demographics? Hololive is not getting China back.

>> No.32973966

>>32973884
>They had so far 2 collabs, and none of the one on one
??????

>> No.32973972

>>32973438
It's more to do with two groups ditching the homos after the f/m collabs: the homobeggars who thought they accomplished their mission and the people who were willing to watch Tempus as long as they stayed in their lane.

>> No.32973990

>>32973851
Gura's old manager became the lead manager for EN and she got a new manager after that. That's all she said. The rrat is that this old Gura manager took Omega's place while he was relegated to leading the homos.

>> No.32973995

>>32973721
The thing that baffles me is that Nijifans will enjoy the news all over twitter as if the new wave is exactly what they wanted and waiting for.
Then will go back to only watching who were before.
Nijisanji is weird

>> No.32974009

>>32973851
yeah jenma got promoted

>> No.32974012

>>32973841
what by their own ammission they were expecting a JP repetition, if anything they are staggered by the success. but at the end of the day you are just a pathetic bait with your theatrical language so take this (You) sister.

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>>32973637
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1569032480480706560

>> No.32974036

>>32973721
I'm not a nijiviewer but I like Pomu and I'm not gonna lie, all these "family" posting or reactions to Nijisanji things make them look like a cult or pyramid scheme.

>> No.32974073

>>32973990
I thought the rrat is still that omega was demoted to just managing irys and tempus

>> No.32974076

>>32973927
kek, literally wojaks crying behind the happy face

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>> No.32974094

>>32974011
Millie's graduating?!

>> No.32974102

>>32973721
they seem really happy about it being 9/11.

>> No.32974109

>>32973721
I don't want to get banned for wojak posting but if this is wave7, aren't they literally just doing the stupid "smug face mask with crying face behind it" meme?

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>>32973637
>>32973721
>>32974011
Fuck off, nijishill

>> No.32974137

Number rabbit on Kiara stream.

>> No.32974140

>>32974081
Well at least Aia is doing fine with superchats guess?

>> No.32974149

>>32973637
>>32973721
What are ILuna members thinking now?

>> No.32974148

>>32974081
>Enna over fucking Luca, Ike and all of Noctyx
roru

>> No.32974159

>>32973884
axel scrims don't count ok. the only tempus member that can actually collab with jp 1on1 and still make an enjoyable product did it. (they don't have the benefit to fill the air with being autistic for 2hrs and call it a good collab)
we don't take into account that starsjp is on the final stretch of their idol rep for the concert.

>> No.32974180

>>32973933
I like two of the homoTempus style of streaming but god, their models are awful
I think that's their biggest debuff

>> No.32974208

>>32973245
1. Invasion of the Hallowed Garden, or rather the snake lying within opening the gates to it. But they could have said no if they didn't want to, and one of the invites was completely optional, but they took it anyways. This proved that they have no regard or care for what makes Hololive as Hololive.
2. Daph collab, yes. "Don't bring politics into entertainment." is a rule for a reason. HoloEN management smacked down the Veibae collab but Tempus were allowed to proceed with this one. Implies that Tempus management do not respect the edics laid down by HoloEN management.
HoloEN has caught the rot, and it will die slowly and painfully.

>> No.32974213

So what's for gold tonight?

>> No.32974234

>>32974180
I’ve gotten used to Noir’s model, Magni still looks terrible. I can’t believe that was approved

>> No.32974238

wow last thread and this thread there is little to no holokek spamming and samefagging, did that lucub get banned?

>> No.32974239

>>32974081
>Enna mogs two Luxiem
LMAOOOOO

>> No.32974247

>>32974213
NijiEN literally has a free win today so if they lose there's no hope for htem

>> No.32974253

>>32974213
any first army stream, like always

>> No.32974256

>>32973458
obviously she doesn't want to directly shit on people.

>> No.32974261

>>32973637
>>32973721
>>32974011
Doesn't sound like a good thing. Remember that rrat about a nijien graduating to join EN3?

>> No.32974293

>>32973438
me
no

>> No.32974323

>>32974261
most of them renewed their contracts and the ones that havent are still months away from the contract ending

>> No.32974329

>>32974081
>3 (three) 3views

>> No.32974347

so why is NijiEN inclining? and why is HoloEN reclining?

>> No.32974353

>>32974261
Not possible, none of them would pass the auditions

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>>32973526
Vile falseflagger, a true Soratomo wouldn't talk shit about her friend.

A CURSE UPON YOUR TRUE OSHI

>> No.32974370

>>32974347
both are reclining

>> No.32974373

>>32974261
> nijien graduating to join EN3
I genuinely do not think this could ever happen. The drama would be insane. A repeat of Luna for EN is not possibru, it was only possible for JP since they had like, a squintillion livers.

>> No.32974388

>>32973637
>>32973721
RIP iLuna
I hope none of them have to enter 2view territory

>> No.32974406

>>32974208
dude you cannot play both sides.
is starsen hololive or not? fucking decide already.
what fucking walled garden they opened the starsen one? who the fuck cares. Mori? shes a eceleb cocksucker anyway.
the "idols" of holoen didn't even said tempus name out loud you think tomorrow will do a geoguesser stream with ludwig?
stop this retarded rethoric

>> No.32974408

>>32974234
They just went too far to show that Tempus is not pretty boys for Girls
Artist took that Memo and ran with it

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>>32973927
>>32974076
LMAO
pic related, but literally

>> No.32974420

>>32974347
NijiEN is literally reclining anon. They went from fighting chance against HoloEN to being held off by council alone while Gura is absent. EN doesn't even need the unfair shark to beat them.

>> No.32974423

>>32974358
Stop cursing the thread. It's already often bad enough

>> No.32974436

>>32974208
omegatroon is being brave by being different. So powerful.

>> No.32974454

>>32974261
Niji contracts are for 2 years, so no.

>> No.32974483
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32974483

>>32972065
Subaru bringing home the gold.
The family vibe in hololive is pretty great.
Each girl has a chance to get a gold.

>> No.32974487

Is that Pekkers on Kiara's Rust stream?

>> No.32974517

>>32974487
>>32974137
yes

>> No.32974519

>>32974423
Did someone say SUPER 3D!

>> No.32974535

>>32974454
if its the same as jp then those 2 year contracts are for big earners so its most likely just luxiem that will get those when their contract gets renewed

>> No.32974541

>Shitty Reddit Duck wins gold
>Thread is the worst it's been since Salome actually mattered
Not a coincidence

>> No.32974543

>>32974519
Post the feet one.

>> No.32974550

Kiara got 1M subs during her first marathon, right?

>> No.32974571

>>32974261
Why would Millie join HoloEN?

>> No.32974572
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32974572

>>32974519
I can smell your fear

>> No.32974595

I feel like Azki and Pekora played on official servers.

>> No.32974615
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32974615

>>32972065
>>32974483

>> No.32974631
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32974631

>>32974543
what about my ass.

>> No.32974632

>>32974595
Azki?

>> No.32974633

>>32974571
HoloID. Moona is in talks with yagoo to let her friend in

>> No.32974662

>>32974487
blessed by the number rabbit, chicken status?

>> No.32974683
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32974683

>>32974519
DID SOME MOTHER FUCKER CALL?!

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>>32974683
WHY SHE IS SO SEXY AIEEEEEEEEE

>> No.32974737

>>32974662
Somewhat inclining and she seems to sound happy about it

>> No.32974751

>>32974631
>>32974572
>>32974683
>>32974731

MORE MOR EMORE

>> No.32974756

>>32974632
She's the other person on Kiara's stream rn.

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>>32973721
Might just be another offcollab

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>>32974081

>> No.32974807
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32974807

>>32972065
>>32974615

>> No.32974825
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32974825

>>32974731
>>32974751
YOU WANT SOME OF THIS PUSSY ANON?!

>> No.32974835
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32974835

>>32974751
SAY WHAT?

>> No.32974890

>>32974825
>>32974835
WHAT

>> No.32974904

>>32974789
>Shu and Elira on a offcollab
Kek, i know they don't have any gachi or unicorn left, but that may still raise some eyebrow

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32974906

>>32973940
>>32973990
>>32974009
> Jenma gets promoted
> ENs start collabing with males

>> No.32974938

>>32974789
>Paul Li made them offcollab because the numbers are dying
roru
quick, offcollab some goddamn karaoeks, the stocks are going to shit!

>> No.32974941

So, has Kekson helped indies yet?

>> No.32974986

Rye niggas where we at

>> No.32974996

>>32974941
she is an indie herself.
so supporting kson = helping indie.

>> No.32975025

>>32974906
so this is why all my managers suck

>> No.32975052

>>32974906
ENs could always collab with males. This entire retarded ass push is coming form the EN talents, as much as people want to cope with blaming the managers. The managers, as far as I'm concerned, can be blamed for:
-the watchalong on the Hololive English channel. seriously what the fuck was that? way to send the wrong message about them being a separate branch.
-telling EN to just ignore any drama coming from their collabs. shows they're not guarding the brand

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32975054

>>32972065
>>32974807

>> No.32975059

>>32974906
>forgetting about omega who approved the collab with daph
if anything its omega trying to use his influence again

>> No.32975088

>>32974906
What the fuck is this shit? This would just make the workers unmotivated to work under that manager and the good workers will just quit.

>> No.32975113

>>32974941
Her fans have switched to some deluded cope that she's going to normalize the vshojo model in japan and thus help all of vtubing.

>> No.32975123

>>32974406
No one's playing both sides.
Some people enjoy both Tempus and Hololive for what they are.
A large part of this audience wants things separate.
"Bros being bros" just doesn't vibe well with "cute girls doing cute things". It messes up BOTH dynamics.

>> No.32975140

The super 3D anon still keep trying to repeat the past even though he got btfo so many times is not funny. Is her first time and it's better than hololive first 3D. Don't forget suisei first 3D she used for the Bilibli concert. Plus Kson don't have an entire fucking studio working for her. Yet she still inclining she got an massive sega collab that sold out by the way. Her comiket 100 merch fucking sold out kson is pretty much the top indie vtuber in the jp scene she even collab with Akari one of the four kings. She far above the influence of hololive at this point.

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32975182

>>32975113
kek

>> No.32975183

>>32975140
>indie
lol

>> No.32975212

>>32971974
>>32972038
wait, Subaru Persona gold? did I see that right?

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>>32975140

>> No.32975226
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32975226

>>32972065
>>32975054

>> No.32975228

>>32975123
Don't understimate the fanbase drama that no one really wants to see.
Shipping, unicorn vs troons, shit like that. No one wants the conversation about their oshi to be dominated by drama and no matter how much the twitter and redditfags want it to be different, that is still fucking happening. Goddamn cuck artists are going "hohooho I will draw Altaire and Kronii fucking to piss off le incels!". Its why homostarsEN never existing was always the optimal outcome.

>> No.32975230

>>32975140
Holy cope.

>> No.32975265

>>32975140
Hahahahahahahaha

>> No.32975289

>>32974256
>people
she was asking about content retard. It's lazy CONTENT. The people who do react content didn't enter the conversation at all beyond how it would relate to her

>> No.32975313

>>32975140
It's bad dude

>> No.32975322

>>32974906
>jenma was the manager of gura and kiara
>both of them never collab with tempus
Jenma sold out the rest of en to protect her favorites

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>>32972065
>>32975226

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32975352

>>32975140
Least coping VWhorjofag

>> No.32975403

I need to head out, I am going to miss it!

>> No.32975405

>Kiara numbers inclining due to rust
>Decide to stop and do sc readings

>> No.32975421

>>32974941
She did, one indie chuuba lost all her shit during an earthquake and got saviorfagged by her sending her some of her old equipment.
She also featured a 2view's reaction to her 3D debut and made her day, since they were getting fucked by her brother's cancer.

Both were pre-vsj though.

>> No.32975422

>>32975212
Number for peak is with Z, but yes.

>> No.32975435

>>32975405
anon...I...

>> No.32975444

>>32975088
Most people don't give a shit about their job anon. Shitty manager or not they're just trying to get a paycheck. Shitty managers in this sense are incompetent ones, not mean or malicious ones. No one cares if the machine is running well if they get paid either way

>> No.32975448

>Pekora awake at 4am grinding Rust
Wow the journey for content seem pretty tough

>> No.32975450

>>32975405
kys kfptard

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32975480

>>32972065
>>32975342

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>>32975405
Nah, she is just dumb and used the wrong loading screen.

>> No.32975527

>>32975489
well that was retarded of her since people left

>> No.32975563

This is my first time watching Kiara again in a long time, eithier my hearing has impaired or did Kiara change her tone? Since I don't hate it anymore.

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32975579

>>32975140
Anon...
Her 3D debut was fine, if a bit laggy. People shitposted a little about her slightly low quality model, but it died down in a couple of days.
She brought this upon herself with promoting that jank-ass iwara looking thing as a "SUPER 3D" after she already got a decent 3D model for herself.

>> No.32975592

>>32975527
they probably just switched tab

>> No.32975615

>>32975212
Yep
so much for JRPG debuff

>> No.32975673

>>32975289
Again, she has a spotlight on her. People are posting her on LSF. If she WASN'T wishy washy about it and straight up said "react content is lazy" do you not think for a second that dramaniggers wouldn't post it on LSF for their daily popcorn?

>> No.32975683

What is taking Kiara this long

>> No.32975685

>>32975563
i think you just got used to it unconciously

>> No.32975692

Has anyone been able to find out the cause of the recent obs error in vtubers? Was it something susan did to the code which made it react with some of the obs?

>> No.32975717

>>32974789
ngl this sounds like they got the ok to go to japan?

>> No.32975722

>>32975489
kek she actually said "wait don't leave" when she switched the loading screen to the correct one, looks like she was looking at her numbers

>> No.32975766

>>32975683
They are waiting for kronii to stop crying

>> No.32975829

>>32975228
> Shipping
This was all on Kronii.
I wish she hadn't brought that topic into the conversation. I don't think anyone was shipping her with fucking Regis of all people other than cuckposters getting their 2 day drama. Definitely not HER fans, dear god the very implication.
> unicorn vs troons
I liked that Kronii correctly identified a lot of shitbags as "new people" and told them to stop attacking her fans.
I only wish she had shut up about it afterwards.

>> No.32975831

>>32975444
True, I've worked in places like that and they have a high turn over rate. The people who stay behind are the ones who have no skillset to go anywhere else.

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>>32975140
MMMHHHMMMM MAGNIFIQUE, SUCK IT TATSUKEK

>> No.32975854

>>32975615
What do you know, some people just have natural affinity with certain games. WWE Miko, MGS Pekora, Passpartout Marine, Apex Aqua and so on
You just need to find the right person to make a certain game a buff

>> No.32975890

>>32975717
could be, but it feels too early if it's for Nijifes though isn't it?
Are they staying for like 3 months or smth?

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32975926

>>32975842
> it has gifs now

>> No.32975978

>>32975890
nijifes is in 3 weeks

>> No.32976038

Take your bets, how many global golds are niji getting this month?

>> No.32976040

>>32972707
late but
>an majority
I can't believe so many of you replied to our usual Euro shitposter. Literally every day at Euro time they show up.

>> No.32976087

>>32975717
did millie and mysta ever fix the stuff that prevented them to go or are they really not going?

>> No.32976145

>ame
>ina
>kronii
no thanks im out, im just going to watch the graph.

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32976150

>>32975978
wait wasn't it supposed to be in Octob-
> it's September already
I'm just gonna find some rope

>> No.32976203

>>32976038
4 and that's being slightly generous

>> No.32976204

>>32976087
No updates since the initial announcement, so doesn't look like they're going.

>> No.32976207
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32976207

>>32972065
>>32975480
subaru is popular, but she doesn't have enough "super" fans.

>> No.32976219

>>32975829
>stop attacking her fans
The ones attacking her fans have zero self awareness, they only see themselves as the good guys and probably didn't even realise she was talking about them

>> No.32976257

>>32976087
this is first time hearing about this lol. japan probably just dont allow flips in. unfortunately, they cant fix that.

>> No.32976287

Will Kiara even reach 10k?...

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32976296

Nice of Kiara to support the new branch HoloKR

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32976370

>>32972065
>>32976207

>> No.32976464

>>32976287
900 more viewers to go

>> No.32976468

>>32976204
ah wonder what the problem is
>>32976257
dont think its about their passport/visa seeing as how theyre not using the Philippine one
its funny because if it is because of their passport/visa they would actually have had a better shot using a flip passport since theres a visa treaty with japan and asean which fastracks and rubberstamps any jap visa

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32976502

>>32972065
>>32976370

>> No.32976665

>>32974541
>Marineschizo comes shit up /#/ when there's no Marine thread
not a coincidence.

>> No.32976739

>>32976287
Its going to happen

>> No.32976761

>Kiara the Korean sympathizer together with Ina and Kronii
EN was a mistake
I hate this collab and I hate streaming

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32976785

>>32975926
DON'T YOU LOVE ME ANON? ANON?!

>> No.32976908

Kiara and Ina were recording something earlier?

>> No.32976973

>>32976908
she was recording sex, with me.

>> No.32977006

>>32976785
Hayai!

>> No.32977026

>>32976973
I don't remember typing this...

>> No.32977140

>>32976761
We know Ayame

>> No.32977177

>>32976468
they probably got early word about the Queen thing and stopped British folks from entering

>> No.32977192

>>32973516
Japan being dumb again.

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>>32976785

>> No.32977318

>>32977192
Ah shit rip Mito

>> No.32977390

>>32977318
Everyone knows who Mito is already though? It is Suisei that will ne fucked by this.

>> No.32977416

>>32977192
> Roughly speaking, this applies to freelancers and sole proprietors with an annual income of 10 million yen or less
Nothingburger

>> No.32977463

>>32976785
Stop posting horror
It's a green board

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32977482

>>32977006
>>32977211
>>32977463
DIDN'T YOU USE TO LOVE ME UI-MAMA?!

>> No.32977485

chicken 10k

>> No.32977506

>>32977416
Top Holos like Pekora or Suisei would be fine then but what about those in the bottom?

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32977547

>>32976761

>> No.32977576

>>32977506
They are not freelancer?

>> No.32977578

https://twitter.com/yuu201023/status/1569040344586780672
Rust kino turned into manga, incoming 100k likes

>> No.32977629

>Mori Announcement
>Kiara Announcement
>Ame Announcement during her aniv stream
>Ina might also have an announcement
rrats?

>> No.32977635

>>32977416
so jap indie vtubing is absolutely gigafucked then

>> No.32977737

>>32977578
Holy shit that's so fucking cool but I doubt it will get 100k likes

>> No.32977757

>>32977192
I'm an N99 shitter so can't really read the article but from the same thread
>Roughly speaking, this applies to freelancers and sole proprietors with an annual income of 10 million yen or less, and the specific examples are listed below. It is not an exaggeration to say that most people other than so-called office workers are covered.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, most if not all holos should be exempt from this. Not sure about the low tier nijis since I doubt most of them make more than 10 mil yen per year and they seem to be treated as contractors by Anycolor instead of employees.

>> No.32977798

>>32977192
Who the fuck is this supposed to appeal to? Schizos?

>> No.32977799

>>32977506
Mel, Choco, Noel might also be safe

>> No.32977800

>>32977629
Everyone other than Gura will graduate in October.

>> No.32977809

>>32977578
>Followed by Omega
Ok this guy is a real deal

>> No.32977955

>>32977506
The bottom holos still probably make more than 10 mil yen thanks to merch and sponsorships. They're also not freelancers since they're employed by Cover. If anything, its the JP indie scene that's gonna get fucked by this shit.

>> No.32977995

>>32972517
they are right to reach out outside the box ,even into the twitch sphere, the whole point of tempus is to be the outside collabers, then ones who tread the wastes. Of course Mori and Bae can fuck up a good thing by inserting themselves into this flesh streamer shit, thereby tainting HoloEN too.

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32978081

>>32977578
I like the Pekora look on this page.

>> No.32978101

>>32973884
the thing is that is the trend in the western sphere, the majority are fleshtubers, unlike Japan. Tempus has to live with it and deal around it.

>> No.32978130

>>32977192
>read thread
>someone mention mito and niji antis
i forgot about that, shes gonna be the one thats gonna get fucked the hardest from this.

>> No.32978180

>>32972707
Already predicted pre-debut they would have looser collab permissions due to not being able to collab with the majority of Hololive. Everyone seething and whining in the replies to this post doesn't watch them or care about their growth anyway. Outside collabs are the way to go to expand their content repertoire and that's pretty much narrowed down to twitch streamers and a handful of small corpos.

>> No.32978187

>>32978081
Is Pekora a hero or a villain?

>> No.32978222

>>32977955
Whattttt
So what the fuck is this supposed to accomplish? They just want to dox Vtubers for no reasons?

>> No.32978223

>>32978187
She's an entertainer, she'll do whatever if it means numbers.

>> No.32978236

>>32978130
qrd?

>> No.32978246

>>32978081
I like the 2 panels on it, time to cut them to a png

>> No.32978269

>>32978180
>or care about their growth anyway
yeah cause that worked so well with ollie an mori.

>> No.32978271

>>32978187
she is free

>> No.32978311

>>32977578
>Pekora
>Koyori
>Minor Gura
>Rust kino
If this doesn't make some good numbers then i don't know what

>> No.32978336

>>32978187
She was born to be a villain
But that doesn’t mean she is heartless, she left a note for her sidekick Koyori to let her know she did not betray her specifically

>> No.32978373

>>32978236
she has one of the most schizo anti in any corpo. schizo actually hard doxxed and tracked her down and proceeded to post her face all over the neighborhood. she had to change houses iirc.

>> No.32978399

>3 Myth and Kiara
>only 10.3k
Is Kiara's channel that much of a debuff? Actually did any of the other 3 advertise this anywhere

>> No.32978428

If Gura actually gets high on organizing big collabs it will be a huge boon to HoloEN numbers. Event spam sucks but you need to put that shit out frequently enough to get the tourists engaged.
It's why her first try being a failure was a pretty heavy blow.

>> No.32978442

>>32977506
Anon, did you forget merch selling out in minutes earning them 100K$, no one in HoloJP would be worried about it

>> No.32978458

>>32978399
Kronii did not adverticed it

>> No.32978496

>>32978399
Ina retweeted it, Ame and Kronii did not seem to.

>> No.32978543

>>32978373
wtf why?

>> No.32978579

>>32978399
No Gura no numbers. Seriously 20k is suuuuuuuuch a fucking challenge for HoloEN unless Gura is involved.

>> No.32978602

>>32978428
Not really. I mean, yeah, peaks, sure. For one day. But if it takes her 2 weeks to organize small creative-style streams in which she more or less doesn't stream it's an overall negative.

>> No.32978625

>>32978579
Kiara broke it with holocure

>> No.32978639

>>32977629
giant male collab

>> No.32978673

>>32978399
Anything with Kiara or Mori as the main focus will not live up to your expectation

>> No.32978691

>>32978543
jap antis make en antis look like sane persons anon especially if that anti was an ex fan.

>> No.32978709

>>32978602
She has at no point said it took her weeks to organize this, that's just schizo interpretations. And no it didn't take her 1 week to fix it since the 1st failure, by the way she talked about it in the Holocure stream she was dealing with completely different things and barely even did anything to fix it except test with management and switch to PNGs.

>> No.32978831

>>32978222
Politicians making nonsensical laws is a tale as old as time. Probably something to do with tax and shit but who knows really. If anything, this will just make corporate vtubing more dominant in JP as one of the main positives of being a chuuba (anonymity) becomes viable only under the umbrella of a corpo.

>> No.32978912

>>32978831
So basically they want Vtuber to be an actual job that you MUST join a company to work? And pay taxes and shit

>> No.32979076

>>32978912
i dont think they are targetting vtubers
this thing seems to be targeting small online sellers if anything since some of the politicians have been talking about something like this in order to "protect" consumers from scammers.

>> No.32979148

>>32978625
global pre-release event, tweeted days in advance with holocure account rtwt.

>> No.32979151

>>32978691
what did Mito do to deserve this or is this just one of these random unexplainable schizo things?

>> No.32979283
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32979283

so is it all over

>> No.32979304

>>32979151
nobody knows but its most likely just another unexplainable schizo things

>> No.32979333

>>32979076
Probably this. As much as >we may meme about it, vtubers are still a niche thing.

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32979355

>>32979283
It has only began.

>> No.32979371

>>32979148
Still broke it and she is not gura. Seems like anyone can do it when they try hard enough

>> No.32979393

>>32979283
Yeah thread is a bit dead until the primetime begins.

>> No.32979401

>>32978912
That's just my guess, anon. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the end goal. WIth vtubing growing along side streaming in JP and being the dominant form of the medium there instead of a niche like it is in the west, with the added fame comes the added scrutiny from the masses and even the gov't. It really makes those 5 Holo JP slots that opens once every 12-15 months that more important for aspiring chuubas. Even Kakage mentioned something to the effect that being a Holomama is the same level as being chosen as an FGO artist.

>> No.32979481

>>32979371
mine was concern rather than scorn.
maybe i have to look it from a more positive angle if one of the weakest in EN can stack buffs accordingly can still do it.

>> No.32979484

>>32979371
The difference is that for Gura it's just a regular stream. Hell, she got over 20k just for some random kudoges.

>> No.32979492

>>32979283
It's over. Myth anniversary is upon us and Cover hasn't said a word about a new gen.

>> No.32979498

>>32979401
Eh then basically Vtuber just move on to corpo phase then

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isolar teaser today to try and detract attention away from Myths 2 year anniv? Ill be honest though i feel almost nothing for this anniv unlike last year a true change of mood for me since then.

>> No.32979560

regarding that policy, what's stopping Cover from making all their members employees if they are not that already? it's a lot more manageable than anycolor considering how many chuuba they have compared to Cover

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Kek so it really was an offpako.

>> No.32979641

>>32979537
Was there any hype from the girls before today? I don't watch them that much nowadays to know.

>> No.32979648

>>32979484
Her getting 20 is getting pretty rare these days. She used to get over 30k on solo buff streams

>> No.32979652

>>32977192
Read the article retard. To download someone's personal information on tax agency website you need to know their registration number. How the hell antis can find a Vtuber's personal info if they don't know her number? Also there are 200k registers on that website and registration number is a 13 digit number. Good luck guessing the right number rumao.

>> No.32979659

>>32979532
Who's left? Ame/Ina/IRyS/Fauna/Kronii?

>> No.32979676

>>32979371
>use a one time nuke
>a-anyone can do it
you fucking moron. you cretinous cretin. I'm sure Kiara could also break 100k if she was the one who was revealing Pekora's new outfit.

>> No.32979688

>>32979560
I figure it would mean they will have to be fully committed to the company then? So Holo with active RM can’t be too happy about it

>> No.32979715

Nijisanji en are having a off collab with elira,petra,shu, and uki. I wish the hololive was this close together. Shit a Bae and axel off collab would be lit.

>> No.32979736

>numbers dying
>NijiEN immediately restart the offcollab arc
roru
rumao

>> No.32979779

>>32979688
I would imagine they just need to change the wording on their contracts while everything else remains the same.

>> No.32979784

>>32979715
Kys homobeggar

>> No.32979787

>>32979736
did they at least bring iluna? cause god knows they need the boost

>> No.32979812

>>32979715
They aren't even streaming it so it's kind of pointless.

>> No.32979816

>>32979652
Wow so it’s still only the tax agency and the corpo who know the Vtuber personal infos then

>> No.32979818

>>32979715
Nice try falseflagger, go away.

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>> No.32979850

>>32979688
nah its just basically just changing the wording which is common in corpos

>> No.32979869

>>32978081
Koyori you dumb dog

>> No.32979878

>>32972967
huh, she didn't seem so, but I guess her face was partially obscured.

>> No.32979894

>>32979816
Inb4 doxxers are working in the tax agency.

>> No.32979918

>>32979840
Chimkin love

>> No.32979921

>>32979652
>tax agency website
>websites cant be hacked

>> No.32979973

>>32979894
Yeah leaking personal infos as a government worker, surely nothing can goes wrong right?

>> No.32979983

>>32972856
>normal voice
she still blasts that shit up a bit, her actual voice isnt nearly as high

>> No.32980015

>>32979973
>>32979921

>> No.32980035

>>32979532
What is wrong with this faggot? Why repeat something that hasn't worked for several years?

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>>32977578
I love how they made Pekora look so badass in this manga when during the stream she completely missed with the first rocket and was about to blow her whole plan in a super embarrassing way.

>> No.32980056

>>32979921
Well let’s hope your typical doxxers are not that tech savvy

>> No.32980068

>>32980038
Still won

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>>32979715
>Male-Female off-collab again...

>> No.32980124

>>32980038
Shhhh this is from Koyori's pov

>> No.32980131

>>32980038
To be honest you must have a lot of balls to challenge the whole server by yourself

>> No.32980139

>>32980091
>Uki is just pretending to be a faggot and is fucking every niji girl

>> No.32980170

>>32979597
lel

>> No.32980208

>>32972103
too fat.

>> No.32980262

>>32972103
too skinny

>> No.32980266

>>32979652
>>32979816
>>32979894
>>32979973
>>32979921
reminder they store data in floop disks

>> No.32980285

>>32979818
>
https://web.archive.org/web/20220911202929/https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1569052681364275202

>> No.32980287

>>32979812
They're having sex all day long...

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>>32980091
i feel bae and moris fans are whatever with it but I wonder if teamates are ready for it, those souls seem like theyre in the deepest hole whenever i read around the catalog.

>> No.32980328

>>32980139
I can understand it if it's Hologirls but Nijigirls? Nah bro, if he's straight with his looks, he can hand pick any good looking chick he wants especially if he uses his vtuber persona

>> No.32980344

>>32980131
Don't get me wrong, I'm a nousagi and that one's been one of my favorite streams of all times, but I still find that pretty funny. Being constantly on the verge of being a total fuck up is part of her charm.

>> No.32980349

>>32980285
I had 0 doubts you were a nijikek buddy.

>> No.32980434

>>32980349
Not even that anon, just wanted to show you that it was true and not just "another holofag fabrication".
https://archive.is/XgGJF

>> No.32980444

>>32980038
Not to mention all of Gura's bullets miss her whereas on her stream she was bleeding out and going yabe
Koyori vision is some shit

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