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32777589 No.32777589 [Reply] [Original]

>closest thing hololive has to an actual idol
>frequently collabs with males
Explain yourself /vt/

>> No.32777642

>>32777589
Link a one on one collab that wasn't a sponsored stream or song collab?

>> No.32777697

Kindly stop shitposting with my professional wife to justify your mori lusting over cock every week.

>> No.32777715

/vt/ will deflect and cope

>> No.32777760

>>32777589
Because, tourist-anon, being an idol has nothing to do with whether or not the person interacts with the opposite sex. That's just a product of your sexual delusions.

>> No.32777845

>>32777642
If only one-on-one collabs count I suggest you stop sperging about Amelia.

>> No.32777945

She collabs with males so rarely. I would gladly sign the Suisei treatment. Mori had a collab with the homos every week.

>> No.32778049

>>32777589
This board doesnt know the origin of idolshit, shocker.

>> No.32778074

>>32777642
Kronii didn't have a 1 on 1 collab. Neither will Ame. Stop moving the goalposts

>> No.32778124

>>32777642
Not one-on-one collabs but wasn't there that Project Winter stream with mixed holos and nijis like... 3 years ago? And that one time she played a Tetris match against Amemiya... 2 years ago? I think that's it?

>> No.32778138

>>32777589
Suisei has a girlfriend so it's fine

>> No.32778149

>>32777642
>only one on one counts
Massive cope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH0wBXHqBec

>> No.32778184

>>32777589
I am Indonesian

>> No.32778222

>>32778149
That was a sponsorship collab.

>> No.32778259

>>32777589
>frequently

>> No.32778260

Kiwi getting banned really upped the amount of retards

>> No.32778270

>>32778149
Sponsored stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadL5aYO3Hg

>> No.32778297

>>32777760
>being an idol has nothing to do with whether or not the person interacts with the opposite sex.
B-BUT MUH IDULL CULLCHURRR!

>> No.32778351

>>32777642
>le sponsored collabs don't count
I didn't know they were forced at gunpoint to take part in sponsored collabs with males. Phew, I guess I can't hate them for collabing with them then.

>> No.32778607

>>32778351
This. As if something being sponsored makes any difference at all other than the extra money they will make. The whole "it was a sponsored stream so its not the same" is the biggest cope ever.

>> No.32779149

If I paid money to a woman for sex, she's a whore. Your mom fucks me for free, she's a bigger whore. There's your difference.

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>>32777589
Homobeggarbro, she's not on your side. Nobody in the JP branch is.
She would publically humiliate you if you try to pull the shit homobeggars are doing to EN girls. Just fuck off.

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>>32777642

>> No.32779452

>>32778351
>>32778607
Not even unicorns are this way, who are you trying to fool? Sponsored streams, unlike normal collabs, are ACTUALLY work, unlike normal streams.
Men and women can't be friends without sex, but they can work together to shill in a limited capacity without wanting to have sex

>> No.32779468

>>32779301
lmfao the cope is real

>> No.32779506

People really can't tell the difference between professional appearances and Kronii getting baked and slurping Altare's dick.

>> No.32779522

>>32779452
Mentally ill.

>> No.32779546

>>32779452
>profession is streaming
>streams are not work
medication asap

>> No.32779551

Suisei doesn't do GFE and has cautioned against gachikois from the start. This is in contrast to dishonest streamers like Ame, who did dates and all sorts of GFE things in the beginning.

>> No.32779862

>>32779506
Streaming is her job, when she streams with Altare it's part of her work no matter what she does on stream, get that through your thick skull

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>>32779468
beg harder

>> No.32780643

>>32779862
>>32779546
>>32779522
>streams are work
streams are where you work on your audience and their virtual penis to build a following
much like idol fan meet n greets except vtuber idols flip the usual idol activity distribution pyramid upside down and make meeting fans the most common activity instead of performances, which is also why so many idolfags moved into vtubing

>> No.32781023

I want to collab with Suisei's butthole with my tongue!

>> No.32781420

>>32779551
>and all sorts of GFE things in the beginning.
Such as?

>> No.32782280

>>32777589
List the collabs.

>> No.32782413

>>32777589
You homobeggars are losing the war, we didn't know where kiara stood yesterday, now that she's joined so strongly, more than half of holoEN is against you

>> No.32782870

>>32781420
Having sex with me

>> No.32782905

>>32782413
>losing
we're eating good chud, both the collabs and incel tears

>> No.32783047

>>32779301
You're right, Suisei runs on pure spite especially for all the idol agencies that rejected her

>> No.32783249

>>32782905
And don't forget the copious amount of semen dripping out of your fellow homobeggar buttholes. Yum.

>> No.32783271
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Whored live on national TV

>> No.32783338

>>32782905
You're taking fat L's m8, mori, bae and ame are all reclining in stream numbers

>> No.32783403

>>32783271
See >>32783107

>> No.32783551

>>32783338
Bae is inclining though. First time in a long time that she's had 10k streams in a row

>> No.32783675

>>32778297
Real Idol culture demands that every second an idol spends near a male be observed and watched, never allowing her a sliver of alone time, not outright denial of male interaction, just a constant spotlight to ensure no cheating occurs

>> No.32783778

>insist unicorn are mentally ill who seethe at any female interaction with male
>insist any form of interaction with male is male collab including sponsored stream when unicorn don't consider them to be male collab
>insist unicorn must seethe at these when they are not
Hmmmmm

>> No.32783885

>>32783271
kek, women are retarded

>> No.32784377

>>32783551
All her collabs with men are some of the least viewed streams on her or the males channels

>> No.32787516

>>32777589
has sex with her ugly producer all the time too

>> No.32787599

>>32777642
look at this faggot

>> No.32787611

>>32787516
Yeah, me.

>> No.32787690

suisex

>> No.32787860

>>32783271
she choked hard, wonder if she got too nervous

>> No.32788309

>>32787860
i too would choke her hard

>> No.32788467

>>32777845
Amelia is organising a huge collab with males right now. They're like night and day.

>> No.32788597

>>32779468
>suipiss
Homobeggars are really scraping the bottom of the barrel after getting BTFO huh?

>> No.32788642

>>32777589
Suisei is beyond reproach.

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kneel subhumans

>> No.32788940

>>32777589
All her collabs with males are for professional reasons. You’ll never see her collabing with men playing games like DbD or Worms, but retarded trannies like you don’t understand that nuance. Do your parents a favor and kill yourself you waste of oxygen.

>> No.32789215

>>32788642
>likes Mori
Close enough I guess

>> No.32789583

>>32783271
She's going against the number 1 tetris player in the world. It'd be weirder if she won.

>> No.32789658

>>32783271
that was a huge choke, she's nowhere near that bad typically

>> No.32789896

>>32789658
Also, she was provided with a controller that she wasn't used to iirc.

>> No.32790208

>>32783885
>>32787860
>>32789583
>>32789658
>biting that deflection tard this easily
Talk about how Suisei is a shitty person

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>>32779452
what do you have to do to reach this kind of dumb mindset?

>> No.32790694

>>32790208
Post clips or timestamps. The last time I asked you, you ignored me

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>>32790208
no

>> No.32791441

>>32777589
She isn't an idol, she's a diva (not the insult, I mean the kind of pop singer archetype she looks for) and in fact has shown, as much as she can from the shackles of being in a idol corpo, contempt for some aspects of idolness like having a close relationship with your fandom.
She literally has a song about how much she doesn't care about both fans and antis opinions.
The rest is just whatever the corpo asks her, some lip service and helping her clique of friends.

>> No.32791773

>>32791441
Hey Diva is a nice word to call her, she acrually is one now that I think about it.

>> No.32794029

>>32791441
That song made me drop her, i can’t believe she has the audacity to treat her fans opinions like trash even if the minority’s opinions can be bad

>> No.32794597

>>32778149
Roberuchads... not like this...

>> No.32794688

>>32777589
she’s the japanese Taylor Swift. Streaming is her side job.

>> No.32794911

Homobeggers really think that sponsored streams count.

>> No.32794917

>>32794688
>she’s the japanese Taylor Swift
she fucking wishes lol

>> No.32794939

>>32788774
Should have frozen and stopped the webm right before they get up.

>> No.32795066

>>32794917
hopefully not, i'd rather she be japanese adelle. taylor swift is a womanchild.

>> No.32795101

>>32795066
>>32794917
>>32794688
she's japanese

>> No.32795119

>>32777642
>>32788940
What's the logic here? It's all good so long as she's not collabing on stream? Because she's talked about how during Vsaikyou Astel helped her by giving her tips and was even praising her. Talking to males off-stream is okay?

>> No.32795164

>>32795119
>Talking to males off-stream is okay?
Yep.

>> No.32795651

>>32795066
adele is dating a nigger though
>>32795119
while I think everyone is going a little overboard with this, yes... it boils down to how the chuuba is perceived. Suisei? she doesn't give whore vibes so I trust her. Mori? Ame? We already -know- for a -fact- that they were whore in their PLs so there's not even anything to argue.

>> No.32795743

>>32783047
Good point. If anyone has a vendetta against the system to begin with, is Suisei.

>> No.32795774

>>32795119
Just in case you dont realize anon, putting your penis on screen doesnt mean you have sex with her. I know its hard to accept this but it is what it is.
>>32794029
>even if the minority’s opinions can be bad
She is making fun of the minorities though? Those portrayed fans in the song are fanatics, autists, delusionalists and antis. If you think you're sane then youre not in the song, simple as

>> No.32795844

>>32794029
Sure it did, retard.

>> No.32795917

>>32795774
pls understand, anon doesn't know japanese nor will bother to look up lyrics translations, this board is all he has.

>> No.32796492

>>32791441
She's literally an idol otaku who hates how the idol community has become infested with unicorns who subverted idol culture and tried to reframe it. In her eyes idols are about normal girls becoming stars and people following the journey, NOT about watching girls have their lives controlled without being able to interact with men so the audeince can fantasize about relationships with them.


>>32783047
I unironically love this part of her personality. It's such a nice change to see people straight up admit that spite motivates them. I hope she does well.

>> No.32796592

>>32796492
>hates how the idol community has become infested with unicorns who subverted idol culture and tried to reframe it
I don't think she said that.

>> No.32796703

>>32796492
most people dont actually care about the collabs
its the way theyre doing them and their general attitude toward their fans and company

no one seethes about bae or towa because they arent autistic losers trying to spite their fans and senpai

>> No.32796925

>>32796703
This, it's about attitude.

>> No.32797017

>>32777589
>Suisei
>Idol
lol you didn't watch jpstreams

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>>32777589

>> No.32797336

>>32797151
Nene is collabing with two boys here though https://streamable.com/xxpnjd

>> No.32797385

>>32797017
how can you fail so hard at reading ESLchama

>> No.32797581

Shut up, Suisei is allowed to do whatever she wants.

>> No.32797654

>>32795164
Except for when you find out by stalking their alt accounts and roommates

>> No.32797731

>>32797581
Pathetic falseflagging attempt.

>> No.32798014

>>32796492
I hate unicorns as well but dont try to put words in her mouth. She followed a diffrent path but she still respect her peers' way of doing their job which is why she has good relationship with most of them. If anything I hate homobeggars more than unicorns with their virtue signalling

>> No.32799480

>>32778351
Sponsored streams can be forced anon, we already know that the Nissin sponsorship specifically picked which ones they wanted to do it. Do you think Pekora would willingly collab with Aqua?

>> No.32799936

she's not really an idol

>> No.32799999

>>32791441
Mori has written multiple songs about owning the haters and how their hate doesn't affect her...and yeah.

>> No.32800114

>>32799480
>Do you think Pekora would willingly collab with Aqua?
; _ ;

>> No.32800351

>>32799999
Checked, but Mori's song are all god awful

>> No.32800452

32777589
We ain't got to explain shit. You don't know what being an idol means.

>> No.32800460

>>32779452
Can i try some of whatever your smoking

>> No.32801347

>>32779301
>She would publically humiliate you if you try to pull the shit homobeggars are doing to EN girls.
I think she would just ignore them like they never exist in the first place roru
Just like how she treated the JP enstafags

>> No.32804258

>>32777589
She can actually sing

>> No.32804310

>>32799936
She's an "idol themed" streamer.

>> No.32804966

are there any pics of suisei before or outside of hololive?

>> No.32804988

>>32804310
>>32796492
I don't want to repeat myself. Look at her branding, the songs she comissions, the themes she looks for, the performances she does etc etc and it plainly clear "idol" isn't what she's going for.
It's obvious how she doesn't fit as much as the others the few times she has to do an actual idol song in a corpo event and
it will even more clear when she decides to graduate and keeps doing the same kind of songs as before.
The idol thing is just larping, just like the rest of the company.

>> No.32805025

/vt/ist logic:
Idol Culture can mean whatever (you) want it to mean

>> No.32805182

>>32804988
>The idol thing is just larping, just like the rest of the company.
The larp was so good, people took it seriously

>> No.32805401

Hololive is only an idol company when it is convenient.

>> No.32805437

>>32805401
Yeah, on stage.

>> No.32805547

>>32795651
None of the HoloEN girls a virgins based on the RM/PL so why do you care?

>> No.32805559

>>32804988
>It's obvious how she doesn't fit as much as the others the few times she has to do an actual idol song in a corpo event and
>it will even more clear when she decides to graduate and keeps doing the same kind of songs as before.
Elaborate.

>> No.32805966

>>32795844
>>32795917
Nta, but imagine this being your retort

>> No.32805999

>>32804966
Her opsec is very good. She was traced back to her early internet days and the closest we got was just another username she went by. No pics whatsoever.

>> No.32806008

>>32805547
>if you're not a virgin then you're a whore
if that's what you're saying then you're just adding to my point
if that's not what you're saying, I didn't mention virginity on my post so I don't see the relevance

>> No.32807304

>>32777589
>frequently
unless you mean that fag Tako Inue whos getting her thousands of dollars by just being her background musician, kek

>> No.32807589

>>32807304
I have nothing against Inue but is he that big of a deal? I know he made some music for tekken, but thats about it.

>> No.32809615

>>32807589
He makes music for Idolmaster so yes thats big

>> No.32809945

>>32809615
Despite being into vtubers I'm not into idolshit. Is Idolmaster even a thing for normal people or is it highly, highly niche?

>> No.32811041

>>32809945
Its as niche/popular as Touhou or any other otaku culture stuff like Higurashi and Type Moon. Very popular in Japan, enough to get demand into Western market but niche enough that if youre not into otaku stuff you won't know much about it.

>> No.32813121

>>32807589
it depends i guess, he made some name from her previous jobs as music producer for games, he later joined Toys factory around 2019 tho he only had his major debut later, in a way not a totally new guy in music industry and quite known but nothing really big in general and nothing special pretty much like other known vocaloid producer that Hololive already had collab with quite many of them

>> No.32813811

>>32796492
that's genuinely based but source?
if what you say is true she might be one of the best people in the industry

i already respected her but after learning about her journey as a failed idol who didn't give up on her dreams and grinded for years to get to where she is now i really admire her

>> No.32814681

>>32791441
>She isn't an idol
yes because she can barely dance not because it's not what she wants to be, she literally tried idol audition multiple times but got rejected by all of them and become vtuber indie

>> No.32815938 [DELETED] 

.

>> No.32816022

>>32777589
>idol
u fricken wot
She's a diva. I never understood where the "Suisei is an idol" retards come from.

>> No.32816796

>>32816022
because you're newfag, she was joining idol audition multiple times before she got rejected and become vtuber

>> No.32817403

>Suisei became a vtuber because she FAILED at becoming an Idol.
But OP doesn't know this.

>> No.32818387

>>32816022
There really isn't much difference, but since she's not yet become successful she's technically an idol given she hasn't made it big yet.

>>32817403
>FAILED
She got rejected likely because of her temprament, thats not a failure she likely just told any black companies to go fuck themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmn8S7qWPME

She's still talented as fuck, not a failure and more than just a vtuber.

>> No.32818623

>>32818387
>She got rejected likely because of her temprament
nice rrat, retard.

>> No.32819356

>>32777760
Go back

>> No.32819839

>>32816022
>diva
you know those annoying American pop stars? now you can have one in Japanese vtuber form.

>> No.32821848

>>32796492
>this part of her personality
that's a pretty childish attitude.

>> No.32821877

>>32779401
conveniently, they ignored this

>> No.32822111

>>32821848
she said multiple times that the reason she wanted to suceed is to spite those that rejected her, it may be childish but boy was it effective. she transforms spite into drive, without falling for the usual traps that come with it. is kinda amazing

but as far as 'idol' goes her idea of idol isn't what unicorns think it means that woman seriously just wants to be a succeful singer that can inspire others to take the first step like she did

>> No.32823189

>>32821877
because it isn't a collab, tourist. She was signed on S:gnal with all those people. That's it.

>> No.32824065

>>32818387
kek, no need to make rrat, it's not even surprising she got rejected because it's pretty obvious she very lacks on dancing which is also important for idol who perform on stage and she able to draw or such is not relevant for idol but it actually helps her in vtubing since it has more broad concept

>> No.32825238

>>32818387
>She got rejected likely because of her temperament
No, she was rejected by several idol companies because she is the jack of all trades type or maybe that is just the companies putting it nicely to say she sucks at everything
For idols, they want each member in the group to have a certain quality that will make the member stand out, while jack of all trades usually won't stand out that much.
I'm just glad she got rejected back then

>> No.32825452

>>32825238
Calling someone a jack of all trades isn't putting it nicely. Jacks suck. One of them can't even hold a sword without sticking it his stupid fuckin head.

>> No.32827573

>>32794688
this was meant as insult, by the way. for those who couldn't tell.

>> No.32832232

>>32791441
yeah, and that song kinda sucks. the sentiment is fine, but it's kind of vapid as a source of your art.

>> No.32833884

everyone above this post is a faggot
everyone below this post is also a faggot

>> No.32835376

Seethe

>> No.32841243

>>32778351
>extremely hyperbolic situation is the only way they cannot do a mandated obligation
just say you don't care about the chuubas' livelihood and you only like the idea of them not collabing with males whatever it takes

>>32821848
Pot calling the kettle black, unicorn-chama

>> No.32842524

>>32825238
>maybe that is just the companies putting it nicely to say she sucks at everything
Her singing shows this is untrue.

>>32832232
>it's kind of vapid as a source of your art
What isn't vapid exactly? Oh look another love song from the people who can't hold down a relationship for a few years. Maybe another song where the artist sings about something they have zero experience in? Some genuine passion that is niche and non-relatable to 95% of the population.

Most music is vapid when you look at themes and lyrics, even when it sounds good.

>> No.32847427

>>32777589
The fuck are you on about? There are like ten former idols in Hololive and none of them are Suzy.

>> No.32853838

>>32842524
>Her singing shows this is untrue.
You're talking about her current singing ability that has been accumulated for years

>> No.32860715 [DELETED] 

.

>> No.32867149

>>32777589
Suisei is talented

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>>32777589
There is only one true idol. The original idol. The purest, most wholesome idol.

>> No.32870707

>>32842524
yes, love songs are also vapid.

>> No.32870945

>Explain yourself /vt/
OP is a faggot who gargles cum all day. Sad! Many such cases.

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