/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji has better quality 3d
So that was a lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Live vs Recorded

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
>Ps1 graphics vs Ps5

[Anonymous No.]

Both are trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Those praising Niji 3D quality don't even watch nijisanji jp. It can be creative, but the quality is trash.

[Anonymous No.]

Posting studio quality 3D where everyone is next to each other vs 5 ppl trying to work out their home 3Ds at 6am from their houses and trying to put evreyone together on a stream.
Anon try harder, at least compare apples to apples, also you must be a numberfag for sure, only a retard like that would go and check a nijisanji stream just to find something to nitpick

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
You're cherry picking the weirdest example. Not even a concert or other 3D event. Hell, the background isn't even 3D in the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

Congrats for picking home 3D against studio, not cherry picked at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Holy shit hollowlive 3d models are soulless

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive's home 3D look like shit too

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Get those WHORES away from Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Maybe he meant that Nijisanji branch, the Anycolor and Bilibili lovechild

[Anonymous No.]

>Soul mixed gender 3D streams
vs
> Only girls incel pandering 3D streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
the pic on the left literally looks like someone did a comparisons pic of Cloud through the ages or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

>4 males 1 girl(?)
absolute state

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145281
stop anon, don't kick a dog when he's down

[Anonymous No.]

>>32144812

[Anonymous No.]

I swear this is a falseflag thread building material for grudge posting during nijifes

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145668
jinx

[Anonymous No.]

Don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
>Live home 3D over wifi
>Studio prerecorded concert
hmmm I wonder why?
Honestly I haven't watched enough from both companies to perfectly compare them but Hololive seems to be pretty smooth? Nijisanji's 3D when it's at its best is really impressive to me though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145668
op's pic was posted three times in their number threads and even >>32145543 is from there, see >>/vt/thread/32123130#p32127219
knowing the numberfags, they can't enjoy their moment because koushien destroyed them so hard

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive closed the gap about 11 months ago by purchasing the hardware Nijisanji used for several years at that point (Xsens tracking).
There's that one uncanny valley "vtuber" (CodeMiko?) that uses the same basic tech.
What happens now is mostly down to engine, individual model quality and whether it's in the studio or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
nijisanji has higher quality dick suckers and that's about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145281
You could have just said you're gay anon, we're accepting folk here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145312
hajime is an female

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143997
>Early PS2 vs late PS2, let's be real

[Anonymous No.]

>>32147264
>nijisanji has higher quality dick suckers
need nijisanji gf...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Lmao Prerecorded concert , why hololive BUT NOT LIVE ?

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/j3twls
Looks pretty equal to me honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone post that webm of Hoshikawa sitting down on a perfectly tracked swivel chair, I can't find it. That's the stuff that makes people say they have better tech. I guess not every stream is like that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32148103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XXhQoKEsUI

[Anonymous No.]

>>32148020
That is Suisei's old model.
New Hololive 3D has been upgraded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmLTzXPNdk

Let's be honest it's easier to upgrade Hololive models all together because they have less members keeping all their 3D models to a standard. While the most distracting part about Nijisanji 3D is not the quality exactly (as seen on OP pic) is the fact that everyone has different 3D qualities making their group look janky when placed together.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Check this out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32147264
yeah it's so easy to be a holofan because you don't even have to watch anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>32148743
Lack is a genius.

[Anonymous No.]

wtf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32149162
Four dimensional skirts, only Hololive has this advanced tech

[Anonymous No.]

>>32148616
Nigger the model she had for the MGO live is not the same model she will continue to use for Hololive shit. Regardless it’s all comes down to when models are being used and for what, if either company is just doing Home 3D for whatever it’ll always look like shit compared to the other using studio 3D models for lives or other assorted shit, and the same goes for them looking even better if it’s some MGO shit where the budget for the 3D is bigger for a single person it would be being split between multiple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32148103
>>32148525
Wow, that was actually impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32149162
UUUUUUOOOOOOOHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>32149162
T o T

[Anonymous No.]

Now THIS is the Nijisanji quality that is well know >>32148525
Meanwhile this… >>32149162 looks embarrassing for one of their top members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ht29q2oQw

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
I will grudgepost this during Nijifes.

[Anonymous No.]

Your move bronies

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811
Wow four backflips at once... and retards say Nijisanji has no talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811
Nijisanji and Vshojo's idol culture is ruining the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145944
>they can't enjoy their moment because koushien destroyed them so hard
Did the Holo3D event get less views than ball game or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32151467
>ball game or something?
In what kind of shithole they don't know about baseball? Are you African or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32147455
Nah, Hololive has the early 7th gen bloom look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811
>dudes

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811
So are they animated at 12 fps or is that just your PC melting down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32148743
Why the fuck did they apply jiggle physics to the straps and pouches on her outfit but make her chest out of concrete
They cucked everyone so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32152473
Can't be bothered to find an example but oftentimes they'll have no jiggle physics for their 3D debut but enable it other times. That was from Lain's 3D debut a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32152639
I know, I watched it. They've done this for 3D debuts for a while and I have no idea why when apparently hololive can get away with swimsuits again

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing Nijisanji is superior in is tracking of the objects.
Holo is slowly getting there but it's still way off Nijisanji levels.

[Anonymous No.]

My main complaint with Niji 3D lately would be they seem to have acquired an even worse version of Cover's problem with stuttering and random lag. Chima's live just entirely stopped for 20+ seconds at one point and had a bunch of stutters and dropped frames throughout

[Anonymous No.]

>>32152851
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Both sides of picrel look like shit
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

shitposters cherrypicking screenshots and making comparisons that make no sense? it's more likely than you think!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153546
I mean you can cherry pick all you want it's a known fact and even I as a Holo fan will admit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153615
>as a Holo fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153662
Jesus is all you can think about is tribalism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153696
stop using "as a holofan" as your shield while dicksucking nijisanji then

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153662
>>32153734
I love how seaniggers genuinely believe you have to be like them to be a Holofan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153734
>The only thing Nijisanji beats Holo in is object tracking
>This is apparently dicksucking Nijisanji.
It's like coversing with a 12 year old from /v/, I'll stop wasting my time.

[Anonymous No.]

>PS3 has better graphics than 360 duuuuuuuuuh
>nuh uh, look at muh halo hurrrrrrrr
This is what you people sound like. Go fucking watch streams or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153845
welcome to the /v/ in /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153734
>saying there's one thing better about Niji3D
>dicksucking
Take your meds retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153992
/vt/ doesn't watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>32154050
>>32153845
nijiseethe

[Anonymous No.]

Both of them are average.
Indies have had better 3D from home for years.
The only advantage these large companies have is physical object tracking. And even that isn't an exclusive thing, just better. Slapping some trackers on a chair or some IR dots on an exercise ball is entirely possible for an indie, just a higher upfront cost for them.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32154504
From what I have seen Nijisanji lacks cohesion between their 3D models, but nobody mentions how their 3D lacks style in presentation, camera usage and special effects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32154504
>>32154568
what is an MV has to do with a 3D model made for streaming??
are you moving the goalpost now that you were showed the bullshit you tried with this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>32154359
Which indies? CodeMiko? Her collision detection is garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32151749
What kind of shriveled hemispheres are knocking around your noggin' where "ball game" isn't associated with "baseball"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153546
>>32145543
You posted this twice

[Anonymous No.]

>>32154952
no I didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>32154937
How many games where you use balls exist?
Anyway, it's hilarious how your tribalistic little brain made you think you had to put down baseball just to shit on nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150875
Reminds me of this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>32155826
>How many games where you use balls exist?
If only there were some kind of context clue in the reply chain
>Anyway, it's hilarious how your tribalistic little brain made you think you had to put down baseball just to shit on nijisanji.
Hey man you don't need to start projecting and lashing out just cause you realized you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisisters will never conceed they lack or lose to anything, that arrogance has taken it's toll in their group and will continue to do so until the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
niji had better 3d back in 2020, somehow they've only gotten worse since then meanwhile cover kept steadily improving

[Anonymous No.]

>>32156287
>numbernigger gets called tribalistic
>y-you're projecting!!!
Every single time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32156286
same but with hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>32157337
>n-no u
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>32157271
Well you replied to me and started sperging about tribal shit out of nowhere because you got embarrassed about not knowing how to read. I get that the thread might not be going the way you want but there's better ways to bump it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32157855
that's literally you after several posts displaying niji3d being better

[Anonymous No.]

>>32158005
>because you got embarrassed about not knowing how to read
Are you really this bad at it or just pretending to be stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Nijiniggers lying what else is new

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Daym, even Niji's home3D looks better than Holo's full concert 3D who look like a bunch of cripples with twisted legs

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
why nijisanji didnt update their 3d since 2020?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32159128
Riku needs his yacht please understand

[Anonymous No.]

so much Holocope on this thread i can tell you retards are all from /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>32159832
what holocope? It's true that nijiniggers act like their 3d is better than hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>32158316
You didn't even know what baseball was until I so graciously told you

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811
Those are definitely paid dancers and not actually the VAs, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Left is cheap 3D hentai

[Anonymous No.]

>>32160072
>>ball game or something?
>i-i knew what it's called, it was me who told you!!
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
From OP's pic we see:
1. Holos 3D having a massive trouble with collision in hair, clothes and even legs
2. Problem with leg tracking on Holo's 3D (Aqua's ankles bent in dangerously unnatural way)
3. Terrible face tracking from Holo open/closed month/eyes and good face tracking from Niji with variety of different expressions
4. Holo's model quality looks worse. Just look at their hair. Holo's looks like a few strands covered in glue while Niji's looks more natural
5. Niji probably have better quality and tracking of clothes, but this pic/concert is not a good evidence because Holos are almost naked.
Considering all this and the fact that it's just Niji's home3D, it's not hard to conclude that Niji is still at least a decade ahead in 3D tech.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning

[Anonymous No.]

You know the holo 3D's were not actually live, and were done in studio by other actors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32153845
anon nijiniggers do this shit all the time. they won't stop now

[Anonymous No.]

We live in a society

https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>32160414
>they can't enjoy their moment because koushien destroyed them so hard
>Did the Holo3D event get less views than ball game or something?
Anon you'll never get better at English if you keep pretending to be retarded like this, I want the best for you future shitposter self.

[Anonymous No.]

hololive has occasional 3d streams that aren't pre-recorded, and they are still better than Nijishitgi

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145944
>they can't enjoy their moment because koushien destroyed them so hard
holy fucking cope. niji has yet to win a month anon. two years without having the most golds in a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>32161846
can holoniggers actually post some examples that back up their retarded claim

[Anonymous No.]

>>32162165
I thought you kept replying cause you felt lonely and wanted someone to talk to but you seriously still don't get it.
I'm honestly surprised, is the average numbernigger iq really this low or it's because you're a seanigger too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32162776

[Anonymous No.]

>>32161846
meant for >>32153734
>>32162776
see for example
>>31278710
>>31151873
>>30893318
>>30551626
>>30270613
cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>32162924
>is the average numbernigger iq really this low or it's because you're a seanigger too?
Don't be so harsh on yourself. You're looping back to lashing out and projection out of embarrassment of your previous blunder. Now that you fully grasp the context, and have hopefully re-read those sentences a few times, you can add "ball game" to your vernacular. You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

Smells like the /#/fags caught wind of the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>32163500
is this a reach? This has nothing to do with 3d

[Anonymous No.]

>>32163504
You're fucking stupid, the last one knows less about Nijisanji than even your average holocuck. The rest must be examples like this, as always, so into the thrash it goes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32164723
>IT DOESN'T COUNT WE DINDU NUFFIN
you're all niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>32164825
>proven to post a fake example
>I DINDU NUFFIN IT'S YOU
Why are they like this? Lmao
>>32163753
Maybe it was a boring day for them? They don't even watch streams though so I'm not sure what makes leave the containment thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32164825
the discussion is about 3d and you link to a dead /#/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
>right
Money went to reinvesting for the company
>left
Money went to ceo's pocket

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165201
>IT'S FAKE BECAUSE I SAID SO

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165488
It's fake because that person doesn't know Nijisanji, he's clearly a newfag you dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165260
my post is addressing this retarded shit that happens all the time
>I'm a holofan but I'll suck niji dick real quick

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165615
>It's not a falseflag trust me
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165962
>>32165687
>it's a falseflag because I feel like it
mental illness

[Anonymous No.]

>>32163626
You're really funny anon, I love how you couldn't understand something so simple and your mind decided to make a novel out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166078
see >>32164825

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165962
Great, then all of this >>32163504 is falseflaging and now you have no argument, nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166151
not only is it off topic but you have no proof (again) of the perpetrators. Literally asking people to fall in line with your schizo shit based on a gut feeling from another thread. Fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166107
I mean... would you be able to read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32165300
The left is actually something Hololive literally couldn't do if they tried because they don't have the technology. Those people aren't in a studio together they are all using their at home 3D. Hence why you see Fuwa the host in the background in high quality why someone like Kagami in the mddle is the suit is looking like shit. It's 5 different people using their 3D models in different locations being composited into one image live and the quality the models appear in is being limited by their connections to the host. The dodgy cropping around their models is down to it being an at home attempt at chroma keying out their backgrounds rather than them being part of a 3D environment together and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166234
>>32166393
see >>32164825
last (You) for the nijiniggy

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
who cares about 3D, I got new outfit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811
They look so out of place. Is that still 3d model?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166674
see >>32165962

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166604
Of course, but sorry anon but I have no more time for you today so let me finish with this.
You suck at reading people, this means you're either a normalfag or dumb, are you a normalfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166793
>fat jokes about outfit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32167480
Just a guy having fun on the /vt/ catalog with a very cute ESLposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166674
instead of posting some proof that holo's 3d is "better" than niji's, you'd rather try to accuse everyone who disagrees with you, without proof, that they're all the same person. Go ahead and run like a pussy because everyone knows you don't watch vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>32152717
That guy doesn't know shit, the boobs phys is up to the vtuber wants it or not, Nui has a fucking boner bouncing tits for example

[Anonymous No.]

>Hoshikawa's chair
>table tennis
>futsal
Those are pretty impressive, not gonna lie.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess the biggest holo3d event can't even beat a nijisanji's doll play stream really makes #nignog mad as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>32168108
Why would she say no to boob physics but then have a whole segment where they zoomed the camera in on her chest and armpits while she jumped up and down

[Anonymous No.]

>>32145791
chaika know the best what equality is

[Anonymous No.]

>>32169408
Who know? Otherwise Nui's tits would be a rock too

[Anonymous No.]

>>32144701
Gura and Ina were not there, Japan doesn't ease their Covid restrictions until september.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166617
Again, Gura and Ina were not there. This part is already pretty substantial considering that the EN studio was set-up and ran by a complete amateur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32170647
It was prerecord

[Anonymous No.]

>>32170391
>ease their Covid restrictions
Anon they won't ever because it all to stop non Japanese from coming in

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143974
FPBP

I mean, really, what bait. Although a lot of individual Holo-mems upgraded models are really good, I wonder how niji will compare in a few weeks/month or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32147455
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32167085
Mostly because the lightning was coming from the AR camera's direction, they look like pict related from front and under normal lightning.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/6ClHZt4t_aQ

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32175629
Didn't they nerf dola tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>32176245
No there was a bug where her boobs grew without warning that was sadly fixed

[Anonymous No.]

Millie wth?
I thought all her asmrs were just sounds.
Does she usually kiss this much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32178312
Bro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32178312
yes, there's compilation of it too

[Anonymous No.]

You will watch Niji3D and you will like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32151933
so late ps2 to early ps3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32174699
Damn the lighting and model are so awful. Kazuha is shoving a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

The holobronie cope in this thread is unreal

[Anonymous No.]

>>32150811

[Anonymous No.]

>>32162633
holo has fewer and on average bigger streamers so it only makes sense that they get the most golds outside special events

[Anonymous No.]

>>32178954
imagine wasting your time on a cheap edit for fucking 4chan of all places, i pity you

[Anonymous No.]

>>32178582
anon, you don't wanna go to the head tilts with Hololive, they sooooo many of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32179188
Who said I was going for the head tilt ? Look at that mouth

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you fellas being mean about Gwelu leave the guy alone...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32179136
The absolute state of seething ESL phoneposting nijiniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

all these supposed "golds" and you're still seething and losing to niji
absolutely pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>32181500
Stop crying and enjoy streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
https://youtu.be/5VNbdnhYqtI

[Anonymous No.]

>>32162633
>win a month
>having the most golds in a month
Do numbertards really think their stupid sport of counting who wins today and then calling it a win really matters in any way? It's literally the most useless and baseless metric to decide which company is superior. But I guess that's what numbertards need to keep circlejerking themselves as 200K did quite far away from 320K.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Pic very related

[Anonymous No.]

Boy that's alot of nijinigger seethe in the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>32178954
i see no flips there a cartwheel is something i can still do so yeah nothing impressive

[Anonymous No.]

>>32184032
Maimoto is honorary Holo and koshien is basically his event

[Anonymous No.]

>>32191806
Hololive is a bootleg of Nijisanji so every Holo gold is basically Niji gold, true unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32184032
The numberfags over at /#/ are basically the vtuber equivalent of those people who think the 2020 election was stolen because they feel it in their heart to be true despite all of reality saying otherwise.

You can't get through to them that Hololive is not the largest vtuber company, because whatever numbers disagree with their preconceived conclusion will be written off as "bots" or "tax evasion" or "youtube glitches" and any disagreement is thoroughly drowned out by their inevitable tantrum of "muh nijibots".
They specifically decided to only count ccv as the metric that matters because by any other metric Hololive loses. Whether it's total channel views or recent vod views or merch sales or revenue or net profit, all those things are conveniently ignored in that general since they don't favor Hololive and never will.

All this wouldn't really be that big a deal, they're just autistic children living in their delusional fantasy circlejerk, something autists are prone to do, but the fact they constantly spam the catalog with completely fictional garbage as part of some "holy war" against Nijisanji is really fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32192366
and then I woke up

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
Niji models are regularly trash, because of the companies oversaturation with having waaaaay too many vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32169408
It's 100% company policy i'm guessing. She had her jiggle physics in Oliver's debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32192366
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>32143914
This post is so intellectually dishonest that it has to be a false flag, I refuse to believe anyone is this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32192366
The topic of which billionaire companies or millionaire talent earn more money or perform better is quite useless as both of them, even the bottom of Niji and Holo, are performing super well in the whole streamer scene. But the funniest thing about numbertards is that they really think their whole who gets today's most CCV rule has any convincibility when in reality nobody fucking care about their daily gold bullshit.
It's like a child shouting to you that you lose in their own stupid rule and somehow you must accept it when this rule has no sense at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32192366
What a cleanly-written piece of lies. You must run in an election. You can deceive many if you write piece like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32178898
I learned some of the names of the characters of "A Little Pony" because of picrel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32192366
Holy rent free lmao, it really is the most influential thread on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32193549
*My
Sorry I forgot the title of the show.

[Anonymous No.]

hololive>vshojo>nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166617
uh huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>32166617
Why do nijifans lie so much?

[Anonymous No.]

This thread proves how nijinipples have never watched hololive streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32192366
The reason why nobody in /#/ takes any of your claims seriously is because all your claims are either along the lines of "These 26 members of nijien get more total views than the 10 members of HoloEN, Nijisanji is now the undisputed biggest en vtuber company" or "Selen got 50k during her outfit reveal while HoloEN hasn't gotten a single 50k all month, NijiEN is bigger, cope seethe holochuds", assuming you don't just make shit up because you get butthurt that the numbers thread don't just believe your lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>32194169
おうち3D can't move their hand when にじ3D can
>>32194439
>the numbers thread don't just believe your lies
By crying Nijibots? sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32194439
>numberfags need to twist themselves into a pretzel to explain why a larger company making more money and getting more views means Hololive is superior despite inferior numbers.
next you're going to reply "muh quality over quantity" even though subjective feels-based sentiments like that completely go against the spirit of numberfagging, proving the original assertion correct that numbers are just a means for you faggots to worship a corporation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32194752
What more money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32194919
This more money I guess

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>>32194919
why the need to shift the goalposts already? do those waves only exist in a vacuum or something? oh right it's just /#/fags being statistically dishonest yet again.

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>>32194919
Yeah, iluna didn't do as well as expected

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>>32194752
Nigger you are the one pitting 26 people against ten and claiming victory when 26 > 10, and then throw a fit when people dismiss your results out of hand and determining the reason why they do so is "corporate worship" and not the simple fact that one of the two groups has an almost 3:1 advantage

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>>32195244
his point still stand. why is the company generating more revenue smaller? because you don't like how they run their business? fuck off

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>>32195244
It's almost like Nijisanji is bigger than Hololive or something huh?

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>>32195244
Isn't numberfagging only caring about which number is bigger? Why suddenly bigger number need to be nerfed only because meh more people?

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>>32195293
Because they are not generating that much more revenue than hololive

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>>32195394
And this is why nobody gives nijiniggers the time of day because they genuinely believe that numberfagging doesn't have context and that pitting 26 people against 10 is a perfectly valid comparison

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Always fun to see the mental gymnastics that numberniggers go through.

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>>32195512
>nijiniggers
And this perfectly proves what this anon >>32194752 said, numbers are just a means for you faggots to worship a corporation. The only thing you care about is Hololive or Cover getting a bigger number instead of numbers itself.
The number itself tells one thing, NijiEN getting more total views than HoloEN. You can say that falseflagger or genuine nijinigger who thinks Nijisanji is superior to Hololive all because of this, as there are still loads of other factors, is retarded but try to flip this fact by meh more people is retarded too.

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>>32195658
Numberfaggots are so predictable it's funny.

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>>32195746
Nobody is disputing koshien numbers, people are disputing when you do shit like combine all of luxiem's streams together to "prove" they are bigger than hololive, or see >>32163500

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>>32195512
>>32195746
>their numbers are bigger but...

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can't even explain how holo3d is better so you pivot to numberfagging which, surprise, you also lose in. Now you try to pivot to a position in numberfagging where you supposedly win in lmao. Every holo "discussion" is never about content and only worship numbers, demanding vtubers play the same fucking games and run the same "buff" content in the same timeslot to get maximum numbers

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>>32175629
>>32178954
One of the things I really wish they would do with these AR concerts is capture the lighting from the scene to project it on to the models.
It wouldn't be too hard to do, you only need to capture on a shitty camera at best, in fact the shittier the better, you only need the average light of the scene, so it saves extra downscaling steps.
It would add SO much to the experience.

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>>32195746
>The only thing you care about is Hololive or Cover getting a bigger number
>NijiEN getting more total views than HoloEN
Anon please you can't complain about someone numberfagging to prop up their favorite company and then do the same thing yourself in the next sentence

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>>32196272
no, that's the numberschizos and /hlgg/ spergs, every split general don't bother with this bullshit

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>>32195833
Nijisanji EN generates more revenue than Hololive EN. The factors for why that is(Nijisanji has more talents, Nijisanji has more streams, Nijisanji has more merch/voice pack releases, Nijisanji has more global reach from Chinese fans) isn't some "bias" or unfair advantage. It's the pure fact Nijisanji is a larger company than Hololive. There's nothing unfair about Nijisanji hiring more talents and preferring to dilute their individual ccv in favor of targeting niches with lots of small streamers. Clearly it's working out for them since they're making more money.

Insisting that we have to throw out reality to accommodate your preferred method of numberfagging through only counting CCV and daily golds is just embarrassing. Twisting reality and screaming "REEEE DOESN'T COUNT" just because you're unwilling to accept your favorite not being on top makes you look like a clown.

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>>32196975
This goes out the window the moment you realize they are basing this entirely on superchats and not financial statements

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>>32143914
kek

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>>32143974
cope

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>>32143914
sovlfull | sovless

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>>32192366
This isn't just corpo bootlicking, it's throating the entire thing.

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>>32192366
anon nijisanji themselves took down the title of biggest vtuber company out of their site

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>>32197977
>>32194919
Faggot

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>>32196975
Proof? You want to make unsubstantiated claims but /#/ is only interested in hard numbers. No Niji or Holo will ever give the hard numbers of how much they make or spend. All you have is the yearly financial statements and those are way too broad to nail down how much individual streamers make.

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>>32206485
>#/ is only interested in hard numbers.
>No Niji or Holo will ever give the hard numbers of how much they make or spend.
So we're in agreement /#/ is just circlejerking over meaningless tribalfaggotry since they don't have any real numbers?

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>>32193408
>The topic of which billionaire companies or millionaire talent earn more money or perform better is quite useless as both of them, even the bottom of Niji and Holo, are performing super well in the whole streamer scene.
This. I'm not even sure what the point of any of this is. Neither of them are going to collapse any time soon.

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>>32205969
>the title of biggest vtuber company
Because it will only bring schizos like you. Also, it's 2020 and I think no one even the most diehard holofag will deny the fact that 2020 was literally the golden age of Hololive.

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>>32195293
>>32196160
the entire point is that numbers have context to them. nijisanji needs 3 times the number of talents to achieve these numbers and the numbers aren't 3 times bigger

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>>32206666
Can you? At least CCV is not completely amorphous. Unless you have a list of SC, merch sales, and sponsorships you're holding out on us.

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>>32208927
>nijisanji stripped itself down of a title because you're schizophrenic
flawless logic my dude
>it's not the golden age anymore
I'm having a blast watching my oshi thank you very much

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>>32209882
the funniest part is that we had numbers for hololive merch, because of a vulnerability on the site, and pekora did in a single event more money than coco with total superchats

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this is your average holobrony btw, comparing live home3d to an event that was probably recorded 3 months ago

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>>32209897
There's a reason both Anycolor and Cover avoid mention each other in every of their offical report or promotion document anon.
When the problem of who can be the ausulute 1st become debatable, these kind of claim only brings confict.

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>>32209897
There's a reason both Anycolor and Cover avoid mentioning each other in every of their official report or promotion document anon.
When the problem of who can be the absolute 1st becomes debatable, these kinds of claim only brings conflict.

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>>32211171
>>32211278
>these kinds of claim only brings conflict.
no they bring questions of investors that they can't substantiate, possibly losing them money

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>>32210556
ESL

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>>32212831
>can't substantiate
Any sane investors unlike retraded on this board will know both Nijisanji and Hololive holds numbers that are almost incompatible with others in the whole industry and are both worth billions.
It's like calling Nintendo dead only because people now can argue Sony is bigger than Nintendo.

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Why does Hololive 3D look so cheap?
Aren't they the biggest vtuber company in the world?

Where does the money go?

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>>32215155
eigo jouzu! nijinipple!

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>>32191806
Niji Koshien was Shiina and Tenkaiji join project, you retarded eop holobrony

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>>32194439
So when was the last time holoEN get more than 50k solo stream like Selen?

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>>32195014
It's funny that the #nignogs stopped spamming about SC the moment Vox and nijimales dominate the monthly chart kek

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>>32216893
dragging out an outfit reveal and creating a shitty stream just to bait numbers is pretty disgusting
i checked their biggest whore for you and it looks like there were two in june

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>>32217675
>outfit reveal baiting numbers are pretty disgusting
Pekora literally baited her outfit for 55min straight to get 180K though, maybe you are just a poor newfag.
https://vrabi.net/video/fdbyEgDmf1g
The graph said everything.