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[Anonymous No.]

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>>32021518

[Anonymous No.]

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>43,656: Pekora (Hololive)
>42,169: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>41,845: Miko (Hololive)
>32,789: Mio (Hololive)
>30,110: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>27,580: Kanata (Hololive)
>21,745: Gura (Hololive)
>20,798: Suisei (Hololive)
>19,425: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>19,382: Watame (Hololive)
>18,000: Salome (Nijisanji)
>17,616: Akina (Nijisanji)
>15,219: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,825: Reid (Neo Porte)
>13,777: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,577: Mio (Hololive)
>12,880: Sora (Hololive)
>12,552: Nose (VSPO)
>12,425: Choco (Hololive)
>11,989: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,931: Lui (Hololive)
>11,041: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,785: Towa (Hololive)
>10,681: Botan (Hololive)
>10,453: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,263: Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte)

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtube.com/channel/UCrAsByHNIFObjr2sEaZHkCg
Here's the link to that momtuber's channel, if anyone wanna take a look (and maybe plan to groom as well)

[Anonymous No.]

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>8/29 Daily Tally
21,728: Gura (Hololive)
19,462: Mysta (Nochairsanji)
10,453: Fauna (Hololive)
6,080: Pomu (Nochairsanji)
5,524: Elira (Nochairsanji)
5,046: Noir (Hololive)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)
14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)
15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)
16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)
18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,483 (Rust)
20. Amelia (Hololive) - 13,706 (Rust)
21. Baelz (Hololive) - 21,713 (Urban Dictionary Game Show w/Gura, Mumei, and Kronii)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 20,498 (Rust)
23. Baelz (Hololive) - 36,453 (Council 1st Anniversary Celebration w/Kronii, Mumei, and Fauna)
24. Kronii (Hololive) - 13,888 (Rewatching Debut)
25. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 43,075 (New outfit reveal)
26. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,467 (12 hour anniversary celebration)
27. Rosemi (Nochairsanji) - 40,274 (New outfit Reveal)
28. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Nochairsanji Karaoke Relay)
29. Gura (Hololive) - 21,728 (Minecraft Hololive Summer Festival)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 20
Nochairsanji - 9
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
6x: Gura
5x: Mumei
3x: Baelz, Fauna
2x: Mysta, Kronii, Petra
1x: Ike, Vox, Luca, Elira, Amelia, Rosemi

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Mumei: 33
Gura: 30
Fauna: 27
Mysta: 26
Baelz: 19
Luca: 14
Kronii: 12
Vox: 12
Shu: 10
Petra: 10
Elira: 9
Ina: 8
Ike: 8
Rosemi: 8
Amelia: 7
Alban: 4
Kiara: 4
Noir: 3
Selen: 3
Mori: 3
Ren: 3
Yugo: 3
Axel: 1
Magni: 1
IRyS: 1
Pomu: 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
August events

Hololive
30) Hololive summer (official ch) + Koyori RUST WarGame
31) Hololive Summer 2022 『Climax Story Live』+ HoloRUST Wipe War

Nijisanji
30) Selen costume reveal (selen ch)
31) Fuwa last radio (fuwa ch)

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031390
SILVER
>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*
>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers
>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE
>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game
>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2
>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal
>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE
>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz
>14) 81,664: Botan (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>15) 35,336: Noel (Hololive) RUST
>16) 33,850: Pekora (Hololive) Cult of the Lamb
>17) 39,079: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 8
>18) 41,222: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>19) 33,956: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>20) 38,850: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker
>21) 41,674: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #6
>22) 38,441: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>23) 50,782: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>24) 28,972: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>25) 52,902: Shiranami Ramune (VSPO) Debut stream
>26) 116,911: Oliver (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>27) Salome (Nijisanji) 68,650 Karaoke relay
>28) Toko (Nijisanji) 44,569 Karaoke relay
>29) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) 42,169 Mahjong

> PER COMPANY
9x: Nijisanji
18x: Hololive
1x: VSPO
1: Indie

> PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Fuwa
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Salome
1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy, Botan, Noel, Miko, Suisei, Ramune, Oliver, Toko, Tsukasa Tenkai

[Anonymous No.]

How do we save HoloEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
BRONZE
>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration
>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*
>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien
>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k
>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit
>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>14) 44,047: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>15) 29,882: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>16) 33,264: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiNoon
>17) 33,446: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>18) 32,197: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer #4
>19) 31,578: Marine (Hololive) Yukata 3D reveal
>20) 38,544: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #5
>21) 38,424: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>22) 30,659: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>23) 39,304: Koyori (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>24) 25,946: Suisei (Hololive) Gartic Phone
>25) 43,091: Petra (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>26) 37,334: Hal (Neo Porte) Neoporte quiz
>27) 40,308: Rosemi (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>28) 41,757: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>29) 41,845: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft summer festival

> PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
1x: Neo-Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Nijisanji, Marine, Miko
2x: Shiina, Pekora, Fuwa, Suisei, Subaru
1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Hololive, Koyori, Petra, Hal, Rosemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031615
Collab with starsEN. That's the current EN meta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
I'm in this multiple times, first time I've been in one of these (that I know of)

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
/news/ roundup for 29-08-2022
>>31968575
Recent clip numbers
>>31948355
>>31948417
>>31949047
>>31949185

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031399
You have it the other way around, YOU are the one being groomed, next thing you know she'll have another kid and you'll be the one paying for the kid's necessities, which decent mother puts their kid in a streaam anyhow? So they could bait you nigga

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that if someone starts numberfagging EBITDA they're either Riku, an Anycolor shareholder, or don't understand how business works

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031615
immediate holocure delivery

[Anonymous No.]

I believe I already saw that Yagoo tweet with Towa's reply here yesterday. Why did it appear again last thread? Or do I need to take my meds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031525
last year

>AUGUST
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab
3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles
6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX
7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice
9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery
11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals
16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal
17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday
18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke
19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement
20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom
22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament
23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut
24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab
25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match
26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart
27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon
28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut
29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting
30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachi

August 1 - 15
>holo 5
>niji 9

August 16 - 31
>holo 10
>niji 5

total
>Holo: 15
>Nijisanji: 14
>Indie: 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028940
So.. the conclusion is that it didn't have that much of an effect?

[Anonymous No.]

Can we graduate mumei? Barely hit 10k even with a z with a mega buff game

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031704
>holocure
>buff
it's not june or july any more.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if IRyS lack of entusiasm is affecting her fans motivation to actually listen to her songs, i thought of adding her latest song into my playlist for listening to and caught myself wondering if she would even care how well it performed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031725
I would say it depends on your fanbase you cultivated.

[Anonymous No.]

For those comparing male-female collab between JP and EN:
HoloJP never turned into NijiJP because they had:
1)strong unicorn pushback, even if it didn't deter all the holos, it deterred enough
2)their homos are objectively failures and midgets
So no support from the community or management. Unlike EN where the community is YEAH FUCK IDOL CULTURE and management is trying to merge the two out of arrogance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031557
>strong unicorn pushback
It didn't do jack shit beside making Stars life miserable in the beginning.
Even Sora was holding out from collabing with stars in the beginning because she thought Stars fan WERE the unicorn
>their homos are objectively failures and midgets
What's that got to do with anything?
In fact by that criteria, management would've made Holo and Stars collab more frequently

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031790
She's not russia though so it would be minimal effect then

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031763
With those new characters, it's gonna be a juicy buff, you can bet your anus on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031763
Bet your balls on it anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031738
mumei and fauna have this illusion of popularity because they spam nothing but buff content. take that away and they'd be far weaker than the nijiEN girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031725
As long as none of them got baited into responding to trolls, this should be nothing burger

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031803
W-why did you copy my post, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031763
None of HoloEN will get over 10k for Holocure, I BET MY FUCKING BALLS, no one in the EN fanbase cares about whoever they released for new characters

HoloJP is magic numbers so you won't get me there

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031869
>>32031738
>Seahours start
>Nijiniggers crawl out of the woodwork
It's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances we get a Nijicure (even if its just a holocure mod)?

[Anonymous No.]

literally, just don't watch if you don't enjoy the content. I never watch any of the FoxDemon collabs even though I think Oga is a pretty cool guy. it's not rocket science so stop forcing yourself to watch things you don't enjoy

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031910
Uncreative nijinigs trying to peddle something

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031869
How do they stop spamming buff content when the buff is them being entertaining and likeable streamers
Fauna just got 5.2k on a guerrilla superchat reading

[Anonymous No.]

Genuine numbers talk, no shitposting.
Is there a possibility that we'll see "homobeggars don't watch streams" and "male collabs are debuffs for the girls" debunked by Tempus collabs?

So far there have been 5 Tempus collabs with HoloEN/HoloID and they have all done exceedingly well.
>Mori/Vesper: 16k
>Mori/Magni: 9.2k on Magni/ 10k on Mori
>Ollie/Vesper/Magni: 3.8k on Ollie/ 7k on Vesper
>Kobo/Regis: 12k on Kobo/ 8.9k on Regis
>Bae/Mori/Regis/Kronii/Vesper: 12k on Mori/ 11k on Regis

Obviously there's the first time debut buff and novelty buff, but these numbers are buffed for both the boys and the girls and with the positive reception for almost all of them so far, I don't seem them being debuffs in the future at least.
Most of the data we had before about male collabs being a disaster for the girls is because they collab with StarsJP, which is notoriously cursed.
How many collabs do you think would it take with Tempus until the stigma of male collabs being numbers poison goes away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
Fucking kek anon, WHY

Also, regarding this:
>>32031557
While I reluctantly agree with point #1, the other is total retarded consider the amount of shilling and tech pouring into StarJP
Like, fuck, their 3D is just as good, if not outright better than the girls
And don't even get me start on permissions and shits

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031773
It makes me sad, so many SCs tonight with the classic "another banger IRyS" yet I bet most will never listen to it again. It's the fanbase she built. If she had cared more for her music by showing more enthusiasm and promoting it more maybe her fans would care more as well, or perhaps she woud have attracted more music oriented fans vs streamer fans.

[Anonymous No.]

Between Homobeggar and Unicorn. Which one do you think is the loud minority?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031936
But what if they are flirting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031936
Stop being rational in /schizo/ general anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031936
you're trying to argue with burger incels reasonableanon, there's a reason why "just walk away from the screen / close your eyes" is only half-parody

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031936
90% of the people posting about it don't actually care, they just want something to pretend to be retards about
You saw the exact same behavior with Rushia, the icon of GFE, where the drama was entirely kept afloat by dramatourists and the actual fans didn't actually give a shit after the shock wore off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032000
Faggots complaining about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032000
Both. Most people don't give a fuck and will just watch whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031914
>None of HoloEN will get over 10k for Holocure

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSgDeIe3SDI
Gold potential for today

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
It's early days and a lot of these viewers are there for the novelty. If it becomes a regular thing, you'll see these numbers normalize into what you'd expect for a collab with a Holo of their numbers-tier (i.e. fairly bad).

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032000
Both, although homobeggar has been losing steam lately and unicucks just got their shitposting ammunition

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032072
And there it is, my bum bum cha

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN is going in a direction that will benefit NijiCN. Hololive's fanbase likes to see cute girls interacting and is averse to collabs with males, unlike NijiCN's fanbase which is made up of cucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032000
unironically both, both of them are some great boogeyman to paint the people they don't like as some big evil that is out to ruin their fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031615
Just treat them the same as HoloJP
-Set up an office for 3D
-Put them in main channel activities (Someone OTHER than Mori, IRyS, or Kiara)
-Find actual shilling/collab partners (Like that Taco Bell advert)
-Most important part: Tell JPs to LEARN SOME ENGLISH ALREADY FFS

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032072
fairly fucking likely also sugoi thumbnail peko-san

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032097
>picrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
first time collab get free pass from audience on both sides. they're both on there checking out how it goes plus all the beggar tourists.
the trend of their solo content will be the real tell. did they transfer audience? did they lose them?
the real test is the next few collabs. if they don't maintain at least their solo stream floor, then clearly beggar tourists don't watch anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031999
what if they're not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032097
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031815
Of course not
She's Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031999
I bet there is a market for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032153
>next few collabs
can't wait for 1 on 1 session, the shitposting would be glorious

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032072
Nope 51k is too high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032097
so you're telling me HoloJP is also going the way that will benefit NijiCN because Fubuki has been collabing with the stars for 2 years+ now

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032000
The falseflagging shitposters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
As others have said, it is still early days which attracts a lot of people to come check it out. So even though they are doing well now we can't really draw any conclusions until another 2-3 months have passed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032078
>>32032153
I doubt it'll become a regular thing like NijiEN.
Mori is the most open to male collabs and even for her it's been a rarity over the past 2 years.

My question is moreso how much of it is because holofans hate male interaction and how much of it is because no one gives a fuck about StarsJP so they skip the collab.

Obviously the hololive brand is still CGDCT and they won't change that, but maybe males aren't as numbers poison as initially thought. I'm surprised how much I've enjoyed the few collabs that's happened so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031676
from what i seen of her, she doesn't seem like that kind of person. she seems like typical innocent, socially inept girl who's easy to be manipulated. if anything i should do anything i can to protect her.

[Anonymous No.]

># is dead everyone is in the catalog farming (you)s
are you having fun anons?

[Anonymous No.]

Noel frame is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdAIa8KLwxw

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031920
It's like 4pm GMT+7 here and I'm working my ass off. Holy fucking nips autism with paperwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
>male collabs are debuffs for the girls
has always been bullshit peddled by people who would like to believe it is true, on the same level as "HoloEN is going to flop any month now" and pic related. There has not been a single instance of any girl's numbers tanking after a male collab, otherwise Fubuki and Suisei wouldn't be able to get those numbers after male collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
Anon, if you take note, all the Holo who did collab has been advocated for it since the start (Ollie/Mori/Bae), or from a branch that literally dgaf about that shit (ID)

Today's Kronii collab will be the first time ever that a Holo who doesn't usually talk about StarEN collab with one
IF, and only IF her number doesn't tank for the next 2 weeks, then we can say it's not poisonous

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032328
too many POVs. none of them will even come close to the podium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032319
It is an interesting line of thinking. For the longest time, people thought ID was just overall a debuff collab for HoloEN, but this has proved to be wrong with ID3 simply because they are more popular.
Something similar might have been going on with the StarsJP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
The real danger for male-female collabs isn't actually the loss of unicorns. Despite shitposters and sympathizers, unicorns are rare. What is more likely is that males will outcharisma the females and viewers will just watch the male. This is especially dangerous for holoEN who don't stream. Once the habit sets in to follow the males, then its bros before hos. Follow holoJP: make mixed gender collabs rare and keep those without an iron grip on their fans away,

[Anonymous No.]

We have lived to see the end of EN. Homo collabs as far as the eye can see, Mori running rampant, burning and pillaging and marring the purity of Hololive, the gates blown open with vshojo cancer and niji cancer flooding in.

The days have come down in the west. Behind the hills. Into shadow. How did it come to this?

https://youtu.be/xVEYcTyj1Do

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>>32032319
Just want to ask which stream is this screenshot from.

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>>32032322
>hololive
>no one is live
There is fucking nothing going on and im bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032371
Even ID2 is a buff for EN. The shark got 15k when she collabed with Reine.

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>>32032391
One of the morning Shuba from around a month ago I think? don't have the specific one tho.

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>>32032392
Kobo is live now anon.

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>>32031971
Homobeggars don't watch the boys stream. But they will tune in to collabs because novelty buff like you said

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>>32032322
That's what she shows YOU, you think she just got that kid within her 3 year career? She tried to get away from it all but got left instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032389
(You)

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>>32032391
Morning Shuba from Aug 19 according to the screenshot

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>>32032361
Oh I can see the shitposts now, people are going to see the numbers she gets for kusoge like the last campfire and superhot vr and start whooping about how it's proof that male collabs kill numbers

[Anonymous No.]

Congrats to NijiENfags for being schizo enough and jobless enough to sustain a single timeloop for an entire year.

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>>32032361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacsMqdk7lc

but she did interact with his zomboid stream
and talk about him in an SC stream
literally 2 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvm4SQimpsY

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>>32032422
Also Zeta in a few seconds and Mr Koro

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>>32030660
>Retard, the same could be said to HoloJP girls
What a dumb analogy
HoloEN is different with HoloJP, each one of them is different individual. also HoloJP and HoloStars JP already exists long before HoloEN exists while Tempus is two months old after debut.
Let's make a bet, if in the next two months it will be only Mori, Bae, and Kronii did a collab with Tempus then I accept HoloEN girls are great in gate keeping and stop themselves on following NijiEN path.

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>>32032411
that's more of a topic and novelty buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032072
Pekora is too strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032389
Don't worry anon, the girls in in good hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032326
I honestly don't understand how it's been over a year since /vt/ was created and somehow the absolute shit their baits still get replies

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>>32032361
>who doesn't usually talk about StarEN collab with one
but she has mentioned vesper before
>>32032449
pretty much

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>>32032361
>only IF her number doesn't tank for the next 2 weeks
Well it will because her schedule is straight up TRASH next week
>The Last Campfire
>Sc reading
>Superhot VR which was a debuff for Gura

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>>32032449
council gets shit numbers to begin with. there isn't a lot to "kill".

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>>32032361
What about Mumei ?

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's interesting how often vtuber covers of viral songs overtake the originals, I want to catalog examples of this phenomenon

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>>32032361
>Today's Kronii collab will be the first time ever that a Holo who doesn't usually talk about StarEN collab with one
>first time
Mumei already did but luckily for Mumeifags they weren't many clips from that.
>>32032371
To be fair, ID1 and ID2 are way behind in terms of being streamers compared to ID3. I liked all of ID3. Kobo's supergood and Zeta and Kaela are good too. Initially not interested in Kaela but after seeing her in some collabs, she's pretty unique feeling. Prior to ID3, I gave the other IDs a try but most weren't that interesting for me. PekoMoona changed that for Moona tho I eventually stopped watching solo Moona content.

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>>32032500
Get better material Anon

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>>32032500
You are the reason why the ENtally is a thing and somehow you still manage to spout bullshit without blinking

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031763
>JP added
>new stage
>new enemy
>new reference
>"I..it's ot a buff"
I can feel the fear of Nijinigger

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>>32032462
nowa-oji is like aruran or oga. completely harmless.

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>>32032460
>1 year of time looping
>Omedetou nijinigs
Seek some help

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032392
Watch Nijizhangji or watch some VODs.
Wait, Korone and Kobo are streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032387
I mean, HoloEN is doing just that
How long has it been since the last time Mumei collab with Star?

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>>32032460
I hate nijiniggers so fucking much >>32032500

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>>32032464
Your bet is fucking retarded because you didn't give the girls enough agency to think for themselves
Like I said, those who wants to collab with male will do so, just like how we never predicted that Suisei collabed with Astel and Izuru
Stop using Niji as measuring stick for Holo

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>>32032357
I'm not really talking about consequences.
Any numberfag worth his salt knows that at worst the fans just skip the male collab and come back the next day (look at Fubuki).
I'm talking about the collab numbers themselves because the number does tank normally and I wonder how much of it is because of fans skipping a male collab or if fans are just skipping a StarsJP collab.

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>>32032527
>ID1 and ID2 are way behind in terms of being streamers compared to ID3
Yea that is the point I was trying to make but properly failed at. The fact that ID wasn't actually a debuff in itself, but just the streamers not being great, and that the same might be the case with the JP stars.

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>>32032460
NIJISANJI SUPERPOWER BY 2023

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>>32032449
>>32032494
>>32032500
That's why I said 2 weeks
This week is already shit for her anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Huh didn't know Cover put ads for the live tomorrow. Popped out when I clicked Korone's stream.

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>>32032567
>because you didn't give the girls enough agency to think for themselves
What do you mean?

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>>32032603
they're getting desperate.

[Anonymous No.]

this is a mixture of EN newfags seeing holo collabing with star and shitposters stirring the pot. if those posters are saying how these collabs literally ruined hololive, just counter their retarded statement with Fubuki

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>>32032460
Please tell me you didn't keep all that shit for a year and just dig it up from archive

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032603
>desperate for numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032603
Huh, I knew they were running it in that pop up thing they had somewhere in Tokyo, didn't know it was running as an ad on youtube as well.

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>>32032513
It isn't actually that often

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>>32032319
mix of both i'd say
there are holos like bae and ollie that spam stars collab. it clearly show on their numbers. they get killed in overlap because most of the box audience consider them the 2nd/last choice to watch.
and their male collab numbers are lower than their solo CGDCT content on empty slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032603
Interesting, all the guns out. I sometimes regret having premium because I miss all the vtuber ecosystem ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032603
I don't i have ever seen a single hololive related youtube ad until this very image

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032625
>hurr durr look at Fubuki, MAtsuri, and ID
Why do you think HoloEN is the same with HoloJP?

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>>32032615
There is no sliding scale because sliding scale removes free will from equation

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>>32032464
>stop themselves on following NijiEN path.
Until they merge the stars MC server with the Holo MC server they'll never be NijiEN, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032625
fubuki is a key player in the downfall of hololive though. she defended the reddit dragon and contributed to cover getting kicked out of china.

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>>32032543
yeah, he's a 37 year old wizard, there are either shitposters or unironic unicorns who believe that this dude or Altare who austically calls Bae "Baelz-senpai" and literally "no way fag" 'd (pic rel) Kronii in the DbD stream are gonna be the ones to cause issues just because NijiCN discord raids are bombing this place and the catalog 16 hours a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032694
shut up zhang, pay reperations

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032694
kys zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032625
>EN newfags
>Knows HoloJP enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032689
That's why I phrase it as "following" and not "taking the path"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032630
Doesn't looks like an archive
So yeah, he probably kept all of those for a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032672
OH NO A-CHAN JUST SHILLED HOLOSTARS, THE END IS NIGH

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>>32032513
is a big one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032479
Newfags.
Blame the containment breakers, especially during the discord leak, that brought tourists here like me (though I got here because of that youtuber).

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032672
why not? it's the exact same condition. no one is forcing the girls to collab with the boys. the girls do it because they want to. same thing for the fans. don't watch if you don't enjoy the content.

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>>32032588
I tried to give JP stars a try back in 2020 when some anon in /jp/ was trying to recommend them and fuck me, maybe I tuned in at the wrong time on the Mario Kart collab but it felt like Aruran was the only one there that gave a shit and tried to put in effort. Overall, I'd say Aruran and Roberu are decent. My only issue with them are their designs not being that attractive. HolostarsJP need someone with both personality and design. Astel (another one with bad initial design) has gotten alot better, the APEX boost in JP helped him like it helped many other streamers. He still needs better connections/collab partners from that FPS community (same for Matsuri).

[Anonymous No.]

Shoo shoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032672
Why do YOU think that HoloEN isn't the same as HoloJP?

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>>32032647
Naw, Bae and Ollie are just not the best streamers so people pick the others over them when there's overlap.
Ollie's numbers aren't affected much by male collabs since they're almost always low and when she does buff content like MC, males are involved.
Bae's collabs with Roberu are almost always in JP time, which is out of her usual timeslot and even those don't do that bad compared to her streaming the same kind of content in that slot.

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>>32032754
yes and what is your point?

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>>32032694

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>>32032765
I like Oga, honestly the only thing keeping me from watching him more is that he keeps streaming at shit tier times

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032756
wait ERROR isn't one of her orisongs??

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>>32032513

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>>32032543
He's a guy so he's a threat to CGDCT. Not all anons care about "omg my oshi sleeps with men!" or whatever exaggeration.

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>>32032803
>>32032756
Good examples, thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032737
It's not that hard anon, I'm literally EN newfags and I know all Holomen by hearts including their personalities, even HoloCN

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032801
It might as well be, but no it's a cover.

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>>32032255
All Council members (except Fauna) have had collabs with males and HoloMyth will have collabs in the future. Few HoloJP have collabs with males and StarsJP are more respectful and don't interact with Holomems outside of streams

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>>32032780
Easy, they are different person and have different management. Next question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032798
Love the design, love the voice. Couldn't get into him despite me liking/wanting to see some Twisted Wonderland content.

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>>32032647
Naw, Bae and Ollie are just not the best streamers so people pick the others over them when there's overlap.
Ollie's numbers aren't affected much by male collabs since they're almost always low and when she does buff content like MC, males are not involved.
Bae's collabs with Roberu are almost always in JP time, which is out of her usual timeslot and even those don't do that bad compared to her streaming the same kind of content in that slot.

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>>32032672
Do you think EN fanbase is the same with JP?

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>>32032746
You might as well say that HoloJP has been following NijiEN for 2 years now
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032648
I have a premium called Brave and Vanced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032762
>No one is forcing
Who said they are being forced?

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>>32032840
Weren't Ollie's numbers good pre-Connor drama or during the Connor stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

is "CGDCT" going to be another overused buzzword too like what happened to "mindshare" and "creative freedom"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032801
Pallette is the ORI, Error is a cover.

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>>32032831
>Different person
So just like HoloJP?
>Diferent management
Anon, the EN management is under the supervision of HoloPro management, just like ID branch and fucking Stars

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032798
I don't watch Oga because he will make me gey

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032694
Downfall, more like rise of Cover against Bilibili and the sickle-looking hook of China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032878
Good for gimmicks, but she was always an Apex nut and terrible at the game.
The Connor shit isn't what crippled her numbers, it's terrible Apex gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032899
kys utoposter

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>>32032899
Its an easier way to explain the stuff instead of saying its like K-ON/LL. I've see creative freedom a bunch but not really mindshare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032899
Unironically yes
Expect that shit getting spam like 20 times for the next 2 days

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032878
Good is relative here, these are her numbers at the height of her popularity, which was really good for ID at the time but she wasn't some kobo tier 10k streamer who fell down to getting 1-2k because of yabs

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>>32032853
both, some have overlap and have their own fanbase but we don't know the exact percentage but we do have that overlap stats website.
I believe there's someone out there who watch both, or exclusively JP, or exclusively EN. Are you trying to generalize the fanbase?

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>>32032756
If i didn't know better I would think that Error is tailor made for Towa
Crazy how fitting her voice is for that song

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032670
i think i saw one but it was like 2 or 3 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032948
>mindshare
Got btfo by mindchairs who they won't bring it up again

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
I really wish I hadn't seen that op image...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030976
redpill me on the doog
why does she hate games where she can interact with other holomem?

[Anonymous No.]

Damm it's been a while...Koro-san welcome back to Marika

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032968
I'm not talk about number
I'm talking about attitude

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>>32032798
Man's has a full time job anon, it can't be helped

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>>32032805
>threat to CGDCT.
That's true and it could be the cause of those collab streams getting bad numbers (eventho so far, none of them seem to be debuffed).
It's just not a big deal in the end because 95% of the girls content will still be CGDCT (the boys aren't joining the holo minecraft server or joining in VC during Jump King).

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>>32032935
You can be bad and still do good in numbers. Her issue is that she's not pulling in JP APEX viewers. APEX is big in the US and JP. SEA should be a PUBG region or PUBG mobile region iirc.

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>>32032899
CGDCT is a good descriptor of the appeal of a (large) subset of Hololive talents. The term itself is super old though

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032965
while 4-5k arent that common it seems her floor reamins the same.

[Anonymous No.]

Ogey

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>>32032996
afraid of being embracing/exposing haggery, general autism, can come off as intimidating and stiff in 1 on 1s

CYOA , pick and choose

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032866
Because unicucks have been pushing this stupid rrat about how management pushed/mandated the collabs and how soon it will be Gura and Ina's turn
Just take a glance at the catalog and last thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032968
HoloJP's audience is more conservative, whereas HoloEN's audience does not care about gender segregation and is open to collabs with HomoStarsEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032965
Kobo's really good. Feels like an Indonesian anime character if that makes sense.
>>32033042
Its just like how people hate on a "good but not as good" entry in a game series. Its not bad, doesn't really affect things but people wish it just didn't exist (DS2).

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032863
>>32032567
There is no need to seethe this hard, cuck trannies. Gb2nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033042
>joining in VC during Jump King
Consider the one that goes all out on that game is Mori... I wouldn't be suprised if they did join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032924
Same parents office but different branch and management
Do you think A-chan have a words and supervised EN like she did with JP.
Do you think Jenma, J-Chad, Enma can supervise JP

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>>32032935
nah what crippled her was that she sold herself as some epic zoomer who collabs with literally everyone and anyone, which is what fueled her explosive sub growth and attracted people to her, but then she stopped being a e-celeb junkie for a variety of reasons and the people who came to her for that naturally went away

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032996
she even managed to put pekora on the back foot during a collab. mr koro has this threatening aura whenever she does anything outside of Gamers/SMOK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
Here is another one from Towa, though not quite as well known.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D0B3wTjE20

[Anonymous No.]

Peko changed her thumbnail
And ... Fucking hell leader-kun ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033105
This is an overly-generalized statement to make unless you're just yet another shitposter adding to the shitposts we've gotten this past few hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033042
Maybe they will still join Mori or Bae's Jump King VC, and that prevents other girls like Gura or Irys to join, or the reverse situation where Gura is in VC and the boys avoid the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033138
he just wants to play rougelikes bro, let him have his fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031314
https://www.twitch.tv/team/vtubertakeover2022
The current top 2 most viewed right now only used to get from under to a few hundred views before and got buffed to 2-3k.
The VTuber Takeover event will end on September 2 with a Fall Guys tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033105
Reddit and Twitter are anti-communities, not fan communities. You realize that, right? Nobody except a couple mentally ill people want collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033138
No more sexo thumbnail...

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>>32032899
Roasties hate it because it's a lot harder to attack people for disliking CGDCT getting ruined than attacking them for being "incels" in parasocial relationships. I think it will stick around because it stops the "you won't fuck her anyway" strawman in its tracks

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033139
gee I don't know, take a look at this post and see if you can spot the falseflag >>32033160

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>>32033119
Sounds like you never watched Ollie anon.
Ollie's networking is the main reason why her subs exploded, but subbing Ollie because she's cute on social media and you find her endearing is different from sitting in an Ollie stream watching her yell and scream while being trash at Apex.
Very few people are interested in the latter.

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>>32033050
yeah, but i feel it's going to be spammed to oblivion until it becomes a word to mock unicornfags. worked against "mindshare" and nijinigs and "creative freedom" to vshojokeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032801
well the song creator considers her version as the best one for what it's worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033118
>Do you think Jenma, J-Chad, Enma can supervise JP
I'm saying that all meaningful decision regarding all the branches of hololive is made in Japan headquarter
They got different middle management, sure, but even Jenma, Omega, and Shinove couldn't take any decision before HQ give the OK

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033105
Nahh each one of them are different.
Do you think Lamy fanbase is the same with Fubuki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033138
He just wanna be the Northernlion of Vtubers, let him do his thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
I think flos has like 3 covers with more views than the original, including okayu's

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033194
that's a more succinct version of what I was trying to say, yeah, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033219
Don't insult NL like dat

[Anonymous No.]

1M
>1M
1M
>1M
https://youtu.be/YFnkzhUyz18

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033112
Seethe more unicuck
I hope your oshi collab with male next

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033154
I was going to say it's surprisingly good of twitch to use this to promote 3views but look who's lurking at the bottom

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033204
And how do you know HQ have the same stance on both JP and EN? how about ID?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033242
seethe juicer

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030834
Too scared of the Pecock. Starting an hour before or an hour later? Dead. Starting at the same time as her? Anihilated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033106
>Its not bad, doesn't really affect things but people wish it just didn't exist
I guess we'll need to wait a few months to see if their collab numbers reflect this or if it's just a vocal minority whining.
Because if in 2 months, the girls still get like 9-10k collabing with Tempus, I think it'll be hard to argue that fans in general are displeased by their (rare) collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033242
Not saying he is close to NLs level as a streamer. Just pointing out that is obviously what he aspires to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033073
I mean, Koro is prob the most powerful member of SMOK, who are basically Fubuki's gang

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033242
Regis will BECOME Egg and there's nothing you can do it about it, he even played SAP the other day

[Anonymous No.]

>NOOOOO, IT WILL SPREAD, OTHER GIRLS WILL GET ROPED IN
So what if it does? The girls owe you nothing. If they want to collab with males, they should be allowed to. Incel think they can control other people lives.

Everywhere you go except /vt/, people are praising such collab and supportive of it.

Even the numbers agree. There is no debuff/poison to the males collab. Unicorn are just a minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033044
>You can be bad and still do good in numbers
Not in APEX, just like at Choco and RBC number or look at Okakoro and Nene when they played APEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
here's only, although it's only barely ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033290
kys redditard/twittard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032387
>>32032357
Genuinely delusional
>>32033247
Unironically kill yourself, horse faced tranny. I will piss on your grave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033150
I just wish more people are into that genre
Same with RTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033255
...because all those "stances" is made by japan HQ anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033324
cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033301
>Okakoro and Nene when they played APEX
They actually got good numbers playing Apex, but moreso because it's a gimmick challenge stream where they're supposed to be bad and not their main content.

Just look at Ame.
For months, Apex was a buff game for her because people liked to watch her rage, but now it's a debuff because it got old and she's just plain bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033269
It doesn't matter. Haters that say they will stop watching will in fact not stop watching. You can see this in games/comics/wrestling and other nerd media. Been saying this for a while, nerds won't leave. They'll complain but they'll still watch. The past 10 years, its like the only times I hear about wrestling are from people complaining, the only time I hear about comics when not related to the MCU are people complaining. These people actually paid to consume this shit and complain. Wrestling may have lost the casuals but the haters who are also hardcores still stay.

[Anonymous No.]

SEA hours are something else lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033341
I will shit in the shotgun hole in your face. Now go back to Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033335
I said "How do you know JAPAN HQ do the same treatment for each of their branches?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033324

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>>32033368
Unicorn feeling exposed when thier worldview fails to line up with reality, what a shock

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033366
The only good hours are dead hours for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033384
Nice selfie. Now off yourself, incel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033365
>Haters that say they will stop watching will in fact not stop watching.
me with Kronii but with indie games and SC readings instead of male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031971
This only apply to manjisanji. Towa is a good example of this. As long as they keep it pro and not flirty then it's all cool.
>b-but matuli
Maluti decline because of apex spam and 2views collabs > holo collabs, which push her further away from the box.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033366
It's like four in the afternoon in most of sea right now, this isn't SEA hours it's NEET and terminally online hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033403
I bet you have never looked at a mirror

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033366
When the collab was revealed to have Kronii, her thread went to shit even when it wasn't SEAhours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033395
>unicorn
t. schizo
>thier worldview fails to line up with reality
ESL. Also, NijiEN would like to have a word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032567
>Suisei
>Astel and Izuru
I really didn't think of the song as a collab. Probably because there are no moments that would result in something like Roberu-female. And Suisei's other male collabs are not in her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033069
This is the first time I've seen these panels used outside the context of maintenance.

[Anonymous No.]

Mr Koro, it feels like home

[Anonymous No.]

>Myth saved HoloJP from chinks in 2020
>Tempus will save HoloJP from unicorns in 2022
Kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033209
>Do you think Lamy fanbase is the same with Fubuki?
Yes, actually JP fanbases are heavily overlapping each other so many people supporting the group as a whole. Of course there are huge fanbases having people who only watch their oshi like Nousagi or Hoshiyomi but they are exceptional. Regular audience mostly are hakooshi, they moving from stream to stream thus creating the Holobox.

[Anonymous No.]

>32033160
Retard-chama ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033436
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033409
no Matsuri declined because the two things that drove numbers to her the most was her bandaid clip and her pissing clip, and that clip of her talking about Yagoo's fetishes, so alot of people flocked to her expecting more of that but then it turns out she's not actually that ranchy in regular streams. The apex spam just drove that point in

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033044
>You can be bad and still do good in numbers.
For your first stream, probably.
There are 2 ways to succeed in entertainment industry, either you're insanely good at what you're doing or you're insanely bad at it.
The former is staggeringly hard to achieve since it involves dedication and time, but your numbers will always be consistently high once you get there because everyone can appreciate good plays.
The latter is way easier to achieve compared to that, you just need to act like a retard and bait the audience to come and laugh at you. However it gets old fast, there are only so many ways for you to showcase that you're an absolute shitter without repeating those acts, and once they've seen enough they will just leave you forever, away to search for some other source of entertainment.

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>>32033383
We're getting away from the main point
This >>32032831 anon said that Holo branches have different management, I pointed out that they have different MIDDLE management but ultimately all are under the same top management.
Regarding treatment of each branch, of course they're getting different treatment because what works for girls doesn't necessarily means it's gonna work for the boys

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>>32033209
The majority of Lamy viewers would be excited to see her collab with Regis or Axel so I'm not sure where you're going with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033483
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033365
>You can see this in games/comics/wrestling
Have you been in a coma and don't know that Marvel and DC comic book sales have been surpassed by manga? Eventually the fanbase will feel betrayed and switch to a better alternative

[Anonymous No.]

At this point there is little distinction between nijiEN and holoEN. A few of the holos are holding the fort but not for long as they have traitors within, both their genmates and their management are trying to mindbreak them into male collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033534
you're the one biting obvious bait so you tell me

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>>32033409
Towa collabbed with people who are popular or at least known. She's collabed with the main CR APEX crew as well as DaruSaka. She also has VSPO which has inclined and Met who inclined a bunch. In comparison, Matsuri has Wat, Uge, Kotone, Masanori (who might get another incline since its revealed he's tall and seemingly attractive) and so on. Matsuri actually collabed with Kawase (a CR) pretty early but APEX hadn't BOOMED that big yet and I guess Kawase isn't as big a deal as Selly/DaruSaka/Ras.

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>>32033457
> And Suisei's other male collabs are not in her channel
This is true, but every Suisei fan knows about her ties with Taku Inoue at least and the two of them are tight as fuck right now.
Obviously not insinuating anything more than a professional relationship, but I'm surprised there's not many unicorn Hoshiyomis annoyed by her constantly and publicly collabing with a man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033246
I KNEEL BLUE WOMAN

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>>32033542
source?

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>>32033522
>The majority of Lamy viewers would be excited to see her collab with Regis or Axel so I'm not sure where you're going with this
I need proof for your statements?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
>>32033221
besides flos, just on okayu's channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033534
Tempus just successfully proved that you can collab with a male holo branch and get great viewership, you'd have to be retarded to not think the JP girls will get on board the bandwagon for those numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033357
Yeah, Okakoro APEX is entertaining regardless of how bad they're because it's fucking Okakoro
They could do watching paint dry stream and it'd still be entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033522
tempus has ruined this board jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033542
Yes anon them talking to the homos once is exactly the same thing as constant open VC and the dudes literally showing up to an offcollab as a surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033522
>The majority of Lamy viewers would be excited to see her collab with Regis or Axel
Do you think anyone will believe this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033549
Stop pushing this propaganda that Apexfags saved Towa. It's Suzy and the idol clique that saved Towa. FPSfags are barely her audience

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>>32033564
>The majority of hololive fans loved the HoloEN male-female collabs
>The majority of Lamy's viewers come from that majority of hololive fans, aka the holobox
Why don't you do the math

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>>32033514
>either you're insanely good
Bruh, Towa's numbers are good as well as some of VSPO and they are mostly Diamond at APEX. Insanely good would be some Preds and pros/ex-pros. You're way of thinking only applies to western streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033566
Okayu really likes to cover obscure songs huh

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit, they're not even hiding it anymore. this is full-on bait mode now

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033601
>Holobox again
No! I need numbers and source. Please state your source

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033559
1. Omegay is trying to erase the distinction between hololive and holostars
2. HoloEN official twitter changing to holopro and promote both sides
3. HoloEN official twitter shill almost all collabs between the girls and the boys
4. Mori and Bae dragged Kronii into a collab with the boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033457
>I really didn't think of the song as a collab
You must have different definition of "collab" then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033596
I believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033586
Its a slippery slope. Two weeks ago, no one thought kronii would collab with the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033551
Suisei doesn't really have gachikois, for one, and for another this place, and really this site in general has this really weird idea about how prevalent unicorns are and how accepted their views are in Japan, even online. To hear you guys talk about it Japan is filled to the brim with unicorns who would publicly lynch an idol if she's found talking to a man

[Anonymous No.]

The war will just be PekoRBC vs MatuMiko then...

[Anonymous No.]

This nijinigs really are running with this homo collab full on, the baits and responses aren't even entertaining anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>people using /#/ for catalogue overflow discussion

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>>32033682
welcome to the most influential thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033599
Towa was saved by /jp/ kenzoku who watched her pre-drama despite her voice and being tired as fuck in streams due to having a real job at the time. Its probably because the anons were hipsters. Her singing and becoming part of the JP FPS community only boosted her numbers. She didn't need "saving" at those points.

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>>32033642
The source is actual reality not whatever safe space echo chambers unicorns hide in so they can pretend they're the majority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033551
Because suityan is good at tardwrangling her chat and unicorns are few and far in between in general

[Anonymous No.]

>/hlgg/ filled with schizos after the DbD stream
>/#/ filled with schizos after the DbD stream
>the entire board of /vt/ is filled with schizos after the DbD stream
THEY ARE

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033522
retard you don't even watch her EOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033694
Yep can't proof a source. I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033680
>>32031441
Guess it is time for some cunny posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033682
Being essentially /hlgg/ but less isolationist and with a wider scope of topic gives you that, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033551
I think another factor is that she doesn't bring these male collabs to other JP members. So people just let her do her own things.

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>>32033720

[Anonymous No.]

zatsudan power ranking

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>>32033708
You can just remove every instance of
>after the DbD stream
from your post and it still works

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033672
The saddest thing about Rushia being terminated before returning from her break is we couldn't see how much money she would've made on her return stream.
It was a make or break moment for whether or not the Holofanbase is run by parasocial unicorns.
Public opinion was overwhelmingly on the "Rushia did nothing wrong" side, but we would've have numerical proof that unicorns are the extreme minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033661
>another slippery slope argument
Just stop it anon, you don't even understand what slippery slope means

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033718
Let's bet our ballsacks that if you put up a poll on Reddit asking if Lamy fans would love her to collab with any of Tempus whether the poll will lean more towards yes or no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
Those days are probably over.

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>>32033680
>nijinig
If you treat every criticism of the girl as nijiniggers falseflagging and let them off the hook easily for any action, then the girls will get complacent. Oh wait that already happened, the girls stream less because the fans tolerate it and any criticism about lower streaming hours will just get called a nijinigger falseflagging.

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>>32032361
Second, you forgot Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033757
this is sad but true

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033752

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>>32033753
Only two of these streams are actually pure zatsus and not superchat reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033720
cunny posting again? why not?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033672
Suisei absolutely have gachis even after telling them she doesn't want them.
>>32033551
This is the issue. While her collabbing with Taku Inoue is a male collab it isn't what most people are complaining about. Getting mad at that would be like getting mad that a man is a manager or boss of her or something. I don't know how to describe it. Her collabbing with Taku is fine but with Roberu is not fine. Like if Subaru did a collab with that JP wrestler guy, it'd be fine but not with like a Holostar.

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>>32033708
>actual concern
>schizo
Do you understand how big of a deal that is? Kronii never collab with males. I am predicting Ame to be the next on the list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033768
kys nijinig

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>>32033693
I was there when she was Roboco tier streaming Apex in early mornings. Her incline slowly started after her 3D debut but she still had shit numbers until the idol clique adopted her. TMT meme kinda saved her too

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>>32033781

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>>32033751
>she doesn't bring these male collabs to other JP members
What the fuck does this means?
there is no such thing as "bringing male collab to other girls"

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32033794
>actual concern
I believe it
Whatever the voices in their heads tell them is real to them after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033794
Gura when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033797
See what I mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033254
Heh...bottom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033768
nigger if you actually cared about getting your voice heard you would be posting it on twitter or reddit, not this shithole that nobody actually takes seriously trying to get an echo chamber going

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033809

[Anonymous No.]

Is there some reason for there being this many nijishills in the thread today?

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>>32033618
What I said was the essence, anon. Of course that wasn't the end all be all for streamers, else all those pro players would get 100k+ CCV just for simply being a pro. There are a lot of factors to consider, like the concept of box, how many overlap do they have with other content creators, how entertaining they're by themselves to fill dead airs, consistent scheduling, and so on.

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>>32033759
Bruh, your post just shows how ignorant you are. Rushia still has her gachis even now after reincarnation. Mafumafu was the bigger entity. Fandeads stood no chance. Female fans are also alot more ferocious than male fans. In a non-physical fight, KPOP stans would destroy JP idolfags.

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>>32033793
Why? What makes Stars different than Taku?

[Anonymous No.]

anyone has superchat ranking for tempus and iluna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033793
but suisei did collab with roberu, do you even know what you're talking about?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32033840

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>>32033822
Oh? So the holo-homo collab is just another stream from Kronii that is as normal as any other stream? It is a literal nothingburger right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033648
>Mori and Bae dragged Kronii into a collab with the boys
Yes anon, those hearty laughs are surely a sign of her being forced by the evil Mori and Bae, how fucking dare they

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033841
you say that like we don't get nijishills in this thread every day

[Anonymous No.]

>Hey matuli, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number decline
>Hey Ollie, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number decline
>Hey Bae, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number decline
>Hey Mori, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number decline
>"no, their number didn't decline because of males collab but because of other reasons"
>"males debuff has never existed"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033871
Yes you nigger
It's a literal nothingburger

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32033867

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>>32033793
>Her collabbing with Taku is fine but with Roberu is not fine.
She actually did collab with Roberu before for the im@s thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH0wBXHqBec

>Like if Subaru did a collab with that JP wrestler guy, it'd be fine but not with like a Holostar.
To me, it sounds like the fans are scared by the possibility of seeing something they don't want to see (potential flirty, getting jealous) and the talent is scared of what fan reaction would be (for good reason).
In reality, it's likely that nothing will happen (the stars know their place) and everyone will have a good time, but they're risk adverse.

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>>32033759
lol no.
the moment rushia went on "aqua is a bully all along," she lost all the credibility she had.

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>>32033851
this is almost a week old at this point but here you go

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033841
The defense force don't have anything to defend as of recently

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>>32033841
There is great overlap between niji shills and tempiss shills. The collab brought them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033801
She had shit numbers but there were alot better compared to the early early days. EN kenzoku saved her ass. Her finally appearing on Asacoco was a relief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033875
Ok that sound even worse. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Mr.Koro my beloved

[Anonymous No.]

Koyori incline?
Koyori incline.

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>>32033759
yeah they could have salvaged the whole situation if they just decided to suspend rushia since the public opinion is still majorly in favor of her, but they went full autism with the contract/legal shit and fired her anyway. I can't help but think that Coco and Haachama would had been fired from Cover too if the Taiwan yab happened much more recently.

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>>32033881
Explain Migo

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033888

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>>32033881
Another proof is kobo. She used to get consistent 10k ccv, now she only gets 5k adter collabing with regis

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>>32033693
This. The only people who could save a streamer is their fans. Not fans of another thing that the streamer just happens to latch onto. That kenzoku were there and shilling her is the most important factor

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>>32033892
Tempus destroyed Nijisanji and they havent's reached their peak yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033899
there is a fucker with OGEY name
definitely from /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033903
why are you trying to get people to shit on her, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033881
Suisei, Fubuki, Mumei and Choco has all collabed with males and their numbers haven't declined, explain that

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033916

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
Another, I think. Can't find the full MV for the original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033793
Because it would be clearly for work with nothing personal involved, at least on the surface. Of course you could argue that streaming is also work but due to how commonly they engage with their fans through that very medium, it's quite hard for most to treat it that way, especially if they want to believe she's genuine while streaming.

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>>32033845
NTA but why don't you read the post again,
You and him are agreeing on the same point i.e
>Public opinion was overwhelmingly on the "Rushia did nothing wrong" side

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>>32033841
combination of winning a hollow gold (lost the cripple month nearly a week ago) and losing face hard on the post-outfit full-wave collab that didn't even podium

the veterans know how fucking embarrassing that is, while the newfags are gloating over an inconsequential medal

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>>32033845
What are you even talking about?
We're talking about if the people mad at Rushia were Holofans or not, and it appeared to be the latter despite numerous sources assuming she was attacked by idolfags.
It was obvious that it wasn't holofans attacking her on social media.
If Rushia came back and made $100-200k in SCs, it would've proved once and for all that most Holofans don't care about bf/gf drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033882
>holo-homo collab by more than a quarter of the members from the girls
If you don't see this as a problem in the long term you are either too naive or you want their channels to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033551
>I'm surprised there's not many unicorn Hoshiyomis annoyed by her constantly and publicly collabing with a man.
Because she is perceived as a celeb/diva rather than idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033944

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>>32033919
yep, called it >>32032449
Prepare for the same tier of shitposts to be flooding the thread and board for the next week or two

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033881
I'm pretty convinced at this point that the tempus fags on here are holo-antis that know perfectly well the damage their homobegging would inflict.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033858
>>32033890
That was my point anon. Nobody really raised a fuss about Taku but a Roberu collab had some people mad.
>>32033847
Its hard to convey. Both Roberu and Taku are just doing business but Taku's feels more business. Like when Botan appeared alongside IRL people to shill some shit. Thats fine. Even the collab with Towa/Bora/CPT was fine, it wasn't a real tourney. But maybe it depends on the person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033881

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032624
>>32032634
ah yes, "desperation" only when done by Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033912
>could have salvaged the whole situation
That would be hard considering what got her fired was trying to set up a "dead man switch" by sending material for KoreKore
>in November 2021
with the express intention of "in case I'm dead", to cause the most trouble for her company and coworkers.

That's the type of stuff that you can't really salvage. I can only imagine what type of retarded shit she tried to send that both Korekore and even fucking Narukami refused to accept

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033759
Rushia could've saved her career if only she didn't go against Cover. The moment she did, most of her followers left her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033912
Fankek please. Leaking drama is grounds for termination in the entertainment industry. Zhang autism is nothingburger

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033881
>no towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033912
>since the public opinion is still majorly in favor of her
Not after that Korekore stream, anon. If only she kept her mouth shut then everything would've been resolved backstage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033972

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033969
Nigger, I could care less who they collab with,
as long as it's entertaining I will watch them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033969
So the same number as HoloJP?
And yes, I said number, not percentage

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033967
No it wouldn't because most fans were still delusional enough to believe Mafumafu saying she's just some crazy chick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033971
This is a retarded argument used by unicorns who want to define "idol" as "never talks to or interacts with m*les"
Sora and Suisei are the two most idol-like hololive members and they both regularly collab with guys on a professional basis, that's normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033881
>Ignoring the existence of Towa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033841
Nijisanji lost August, their supposed strongest month. There's no point for them to partake in civil discussion no more.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033763
> holoJP
> caring about EOP opinions
HoloEN was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033858
NTA but her collab with Roberu being for shilling actually enhances his point. It's "ok" if it's obviously for work, it's not "ok" if it's just for fun. No one's going to stab Fubuki for collabing with Oga but you certainly won't see her fans tuning in for FOXDEMON as much as holoEN fans tuned in for today's DbD collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033881
>Hey Towa, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number incline
>Hey Suisei, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number incline
>Hey Fubuki, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number incline
>Hey Mumei, what are you doing?
>collabing with males
>number incline
NO COLLABING WITH MALES LEAD TO NUMBERS DECLINING, IT HAS TO

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033912
Fancuck, please
The only mistake Cover did was not putting Rushia in straitjacket for 2 weeks in order to stop her from doing something extremely stupid, like sending doxx material to fucking dramafag

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034014
Wait till he says you're not a member so your opinion doesn't matter lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032630
I just dug it up after one guy pointed out the exact syntax from a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033973
>shitpost
Ex-gamers had similar numbers across the board for both male and females. It is only after the Ark arc that females were falling behind and male gained numbers

We have literal proof of it across the company line but yet the homobeggars want to gaslight people to think that the boys won't harm the girls' number.

[Anonymous No.]

>32033763
>fbk and wamy have largely same fan base
>on reddit
What kind of bait is this. top fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034007

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034077
literally what the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033986
three of them already 3 views kekw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034034
Sora chatted on Regis stream. Daisenpai allows collabs with male. In reality, most Holo girls are just autistic to talk to males. Gura can't even talk to Nene without spilling sphagetti

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034085

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034072
I genuinely can't fathom how a few streams with bellow usual numbers means that their channel is dying
Didn't they consider that other factors is at play as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034030
>most fans were still delusional enough to believe Mafumafu saying she's just some crazy chick.
Are you talking about holofans or mfmf fans? because we're not talking about mfmf fans here
Are you even keeping track with the conversation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034052
Watch streams, holoJP have literally said that EN fans make up a good proportion of their viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034035
Whats the difference? Towa actually collabs with popular males. There ya go. Holostars are a burden.
>>32034057
Now this is a strawman because Suisei and Mumei barely have male collabs compared to Matsuri/Calli/Bae/Oli. FBK's like the only one that has a good amount of male collabs that aren't sponsor shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034014
Stop giving me idea. >>32034072
So where is your member you fucking greyname?

>>32034025
Same number as Ollie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034107
nta, but probably niji gen that kuzuha is part of

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034135
yeah because OP isn't a strawman

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034128
Both fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033984
>maybe it depends on the person
In other words it boils down to
>IT'S FUCKING NOTHING

Suityan could collab with any stars right fucking now and I doubt Hoshiyomis would mind, because she already tardwrangled most of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034107
Oh, it is EN-only watcher that has no idea about this part of history. Don't say that I didn't warn you about the girls whoring around.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033986
Another reason why Vod views is a shit metric when comparing corpos.
Nijis Vod views is very inflated because of ads and bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033889
I always thought its Matsuri that shes referring to. In which case I would think Matsuri is based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034132
yeah, in 2020
not anymore though because JP has become mainstream in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034077
Survival of the fittest my man, let the best streamer win. Cover won't incline by keeping the girls behind a protective barrier because they're afraid the boys will steal their lunch just like what happened in Nijisanji. Time to tear the wall down and just maybe Hololive can see 300k yearly events too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033984
>some people
nijinogs then, as usual.
you EOPs really have no idea about the JP side of things huh.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys you have like 50 threads on the catalog for this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034135
>Towa actually collabs with popular males
So did Ollie, Mori & Matsuri. Maybe it is some other factors than male Collabs that made them decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034163
The ones OP posted had decent amount of male collabs like FBK. Yours only had FBK. The difference between the ones in OP and Towa is who they collabbed with. Its not about whether they are males or not, its about who the males are.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>32034125
>notruescottsman
Damn it is rare to see this kind of cope in the number thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Tempus debut : holoen getting stronger, mindbreaking fujochink

iluna debut : nijien getting weaker, also mindbreaking fujochink

what went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034002
Same thing basically happened with HonHima. She kept talking about Axia which made her die hard gachis leave her for good.

[Anonymous No.]

if you want to turn hololive into nijisanji so bad, just go watch nijisanji and fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034140
I dunno, where are yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034121

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033894
kys unicuck
I'd rather kill your entire family and then kill myself than being compared to nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034034
I think the issue is that for the western audience, western women are the baseline of how they think women are.
And so any sign of them even showing closeness to a male will immediately ping their "WHORE" sensors.
JP doesn't have this issue, because even idol girls often have very professional collabs with males without being flirty on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034238
fujochinks are easily mindbroken, what else is new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034205
if there were more streams then it wouldn't be as bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034014
>as long as it's entertaining I will watch them
It's not. That's the problem.
>inb4 b-but unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034196
kek, nijinigger hands typed this.

>The Fox Who Lost His Tail
>A Fox that had been caught in a trap, succeeded at last, after much painful tugging, in getting away.
>But he had to leave his beautiful bushy tail behind him.

>For a long time he kept away from the other Foxes, for he knew well enough that they would all make fun of him and crack jokes and laugh behind his back.
>But it was hard for him to live alone, and at last he thought of a plan that would perhaps help him out of his trouble.

>He called a meeting of all the Foxes, saying that he had something of great importance to tell the tribe.

>When they were all gathered together, the Fox Without a Tail got up and made a long speech about those Foxes who had come to harm because of their tails.

>This one had been caught by hounds when his tail had become entangled in the hedge.
>That one had not been able to run fast enough because of the weight of his brush.
>Besides, it was well known, he said, that men hunt Foxes simply for their tails, which they cut off as prizes of the hunt.
>With such proof of the danger and uselessness of having a tail, said Master Fox, he would advise every Fox to cut it off, if he valued life and safety.

>When he had finished talking, an old Fox arose, and said, smiling:
>“Master Fox, kindly turn around for a moment, and you shall have your answer.”
>When the poor Fox Without a Tail turned around, there arose such a storm of jeers and hooting, that he saw how useless it was to try any longer to persuade the Foxes to part with their tails.

Moral: Distrust advice from someone who stands to gain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034041
How in the hell did Nijisanji lose August btw?
No Rust permission?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034205
Catalog threads are about homo collabs destroying the culture of Hololive.
/#/ is about if homo collabs actually hurt their numbers and kill their channels

[Anonymous No.]

Yes that's me, the inanimate object

[Anonymous No.]

OI! Stop the shitflinging RIGHT NOW!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034259

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>>32034034
that's not even a thing actual unicorns believe, it's entirely an invention cooked up by onlookers, either because they really like the idea of there being a large majority of "purity enforcers" in japan that will burn idols alive if they do something they don't like, or to demonize idolfags so they have something to point towards when they say that idol culture is bad

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>>32034272
>muh EN fans bad
Explain why most JP girls are so deathly afraid of talking to men that they've avoided collabing with any holostar for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034284
Anon, fun is subjective, you can't expect everyone to have the same taste as your

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034173
Thats what Hoshiyomis thought then the Roberu collab happen and look at the thread and discord when that happened. Then you got that stupid gachikoi clip.
>>32034207
>So did Ollie, Mori & Matsuri.
Fucking who? Mori technically didn't collab with Charlie. Rpr isn't popular (Mande's the star) and which guy did Matsuri collab with who could be seen as popular? You could argue Ras because they were in a team but its not like she collabed with him in a non-tourney/scrim related stream like how Towa did with Selly and the other CR boys.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Q4Z5Em1G250
https://youtu.be/Q4Z5Em1G250
https://youtu.be/Q4Z5Em1G250
EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP, IT'S 40K TIME

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034296
Or else

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>>32034294
Self deleted, could be too spicy for the sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
Nobody can beat the Turing Love original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033768
unicorns have made their opinion pretty clear with Kronii at least, whining here isn't going to help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034272
How can you say this when there are far more HoloJP girls terrified about collabing with males than HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>Homobeggars calling this a nothing burger to soften the blow
If this is ok and just business as usual why is it fueling the major generals and even the entire catalog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034308
>"purity enforcers"
More of them around than you think, there is a large majority of nip incels that just do not want the idols to have relationships while they're working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034284
the clip getting a ridiculous views so far. the problem is you

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>>32034339

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>>32034335
tokugawa twaa my beloved

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>>32034260
Homobeggerchama, you should probably stop behaving exactly like a nijinigger if you hate being compared to them so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032513
from suisei's cover list
sagajihen and ranbu are a bit unfair since sagajihen doesn't have the full song (the full song is a youtube music vid with only 1.6m views) and ranbu is youtube music only, no MV. alo i ignored all the ensta and im@s ones for obvious reasons

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>>32034238
NijiEN dropped the ball when they went for sub numbers during audition ironically.

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>>32034334
>Fucking who
I know people hate Connor and TT for good reasons, but acting like they are not popular is fucking braindead. Connor got like 2.8 million subs just by himself.
https://www.youtube.com/c/CDawgVA

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>>32033841
that's the angle they're going with.
> HoloEN is now no different from NijiEN
> so why not watch NijiEN instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034362
>taking 4chin catalog shitpost seriously

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>>32034284
Thankfully unicucks don't have the authority on deciding what's fun and not

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034362
gee anon it's not like there's a large amount of dramatourists just coming to vt to act retarded for kicks and yous or anything

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>>32034304

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>>32034335
>Includes paid promotion
>Twap got sponsored to play a Warhammer game from the developers of E.Y.E

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034196
NijiEN defense force going all out today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034358
Because they don't watch JPs. They have no idea how often the JPs "collabing with males" which I can count with 2 hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034280
HoloID now consistently mogs NijiEN on CN hours.
When did this happen?

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>>32034366
you'd like to believe that's true, wouldn't you?

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>>32034422
>anything major happened
>people are generally discontent
"It is just drama-tourists!"

[Anonymous No.]

Nijiniggers malding Tempus is slowly dominating Luxiem

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>>32034334
That was before suityan x Taku anon, right now I bet most of hoshiyomis are indifferent towards male collab

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>>32034392
And how many times have Cali and Ollie actually collab with those guys? Cali and Ollie, no their roommates or other identities. Its probably alot less than Towa with CR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034362
>Pretending this place is a reflection of reality

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>>32034369
that just means beggars are clip watching tourists. where where they during the collab? should be easy enough to break 40k total if it was such a buff.

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>>32034335
>>32034433
Twappi getting the money and being based.

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>>32034362
surely it's not some people trying to fan the flame and turn nothing into a yab, right? /vt/ would never since this board has so much integrity

[Anonymous No.]

It'll be about an hour before the holosummer stream starts and hopefully, the horniposting can overtake the shitposting and the baits. Though pink mayo rust event is also starting in an hour and whether a gold race can happen. Just an hour more...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034466
>/here/
>general fanbase
I don't know what to tell you anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034438
It's not fair to compare them to buff content like a literal shit eating child reading superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034389
I feel Nijisanji made the mistake of chasing Hololive instead of developing their brand.

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>>32034292
>#/ is about if homo collabs actually hurt their numbers and kill their channels
I think overspamming collabs hurts any channel in the long run, not just homo collabs. But really the answer to that is that it depends on the audience you've cultivated.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine thinking that /vt/ is the voice of the vtuber fandom, unironically touch some grass

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>>32034434

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>>32034466
please tell me you didn't actually believe the nijiniggers when they said that /vt/ is the most influential place for vtuber discourse

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034459
You can literally look at the number of active mainstream idols now and count on one hand how many of them have a public relationship, compare that to equivalent Western young pop stars and see how changes to their relationship status are accepted and how much mentally healthier they are for not having to hide that they're normal people who have the right to fall in love too

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034478
Suisei already had a Taku song by then
>>32034436
There were more back in the day but there were barely any non-JPs watching Holo back then. There weren't even that many JPs.

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>>32034510
Moving the goal post right now aren't we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034312
> he doesn't know about the nijiJP falseflagging ops of 2019
do your archive reps

[Anonymous No.]

Peko is gonna steal selen's gold btw

[Anonymous No.]

Any recommendations jp vtuber like her? with technical autism? I just found her during artemis supposed launch yesterday.

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>>32034533

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>>32034438
ID3 saved HoloID. Three good streamers holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034509
the hololive summer stream is just Nodoka and A-chan shilling

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034474
they are malding at everything now

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>>32034550
who tf is moving goalpost nigger?
believe it or not
/vt/ is not the general fanbase for most chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034438
NijiEN failed when they decided to pander to CN crowd.

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>>32031971
Tempus isn't StarsJP, StarsJP collabs get shit numbers because StarsJP get shit numbers and are not as popular, it's that simple.
And the EN fanbase just seems a lot more interested in watching Tempus than the JP fanbase is interested in StarsJP. Their massive difference when comparing their average numbers should speak for itself really.

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>>32034125
anon most of these morons are either nijis upset that Tempus are doing so well or tourists shitting up the thread because they've already cleared other threads. I'd be shocked if they could even name buff/debuff games. There were people arguing that Noir was reclining because the 9th zatsu and 2nd FTL stream were lower than prior streams

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>>32034586
nodoka my beloved. we will be together one day.

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>>32034552
Okay good it was in 2019, the Tempus collab just proved that real hololive fans don't mind now so I'm sure JP holos will be collabing with both Tempus and StarsJP soon right? They aren't just moneygrubbing parasocial bitches out to scam money from lonely incels right?

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>>32034575

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>>32034480
NTA, but if you're going to backpedal and shift goalposts that hard you may as well just neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034335
Warhammer is shit. Why is she shilling this instead of slime rancher 2 ?

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>>32034541
Back in the days holos collab with whoever to get the numbers. Now the business model has changed and so do the audiences. Collabing with males are more harm than good. I'd rather Tempus stagnate than them cannibalizing the girls' numbers.

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>>32034561
Sub 30k stream, she got too lucky during her last Rust stream, she wouldn't possibly be able to get a third 50k rust stream within a month right?

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>>32034561
I believe so as well. Though I'm hoping it's more of a close thing so the thread can have a nice horse race.

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>>32034375
Looking at the state of catalog right now, I'd say unicucks are currently behaving like nijinigger right now
Are you unicuck and/or nijinigger anon?

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>>32034362
Almost like you're a retard spamming posts in the catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034595
>EN fanbase just seems a lot more interested in watching Tempus than the JP fanbase is interested in StarsJP
No shit, most people begging for the girls to collab with Holostars are greys typing in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034438
now we need ID4 to mindbreaking more fujoshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034614

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like kobo is making song live on stream with lyrics from chat now

[Anonymous No.]

Just got to see selen's outfit now after a busy day. What the fuck is that design, her face is so out of place with the whole design. Better yet, I don't really have a good impression with 2/3 of the obsydia outfits except for petra since it feels a lil bit distinct, being drawn by a holomama.

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>>32034586
Then it all falls on the Rust kino and peko racing for gold.

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>>32034422
How fucking new are you people? The idea that the anons in favour of homo collabs are the regulars and the people opposed to homo collabs are raiding tourists is laughable.

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>>32034612
>>32034613
Yea I just stopped engaging him when he completely ignored the point of the original post and kept goalpost moving.

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>>32034315
>>32034419
Given that people got into "feels like a girls' school" hololive for a reason to begin with, it's safe to say that reason isn't male collabs.

>>32034369
See >>32034487
If you like male-female collabs, might I recommend Nijisanji? And if you don't like the hologirls, why do you think you get to have an opinion on which direction they should go?

[Anonymous No.]

i really don't feel bad about holoen getting shafted at all now
they deserve it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034614
Wait that game already released a second game? I only played the alpha of the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034474
Tempus is actually inclining holyshit.
Fujo baiting was the meta until Hololive showed everyone how fun it would be if guys just do guy things.

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>>32034587
You nigger are the one moving the goalpost.
>people are concerned across the board
>"it is just drama tourist"
>It is not just drama tourist
>"oh /here/ doesn't represent the fanbase anyway"
I am not surprised that homobeggars are using the same tactic as nijiniggers by moving the goalpost.

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>>32034702
stop deluding yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034691
>>32034665
Petras was the only one done by the original Mama, so makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034613
Calli collabbed with TT twice

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>>32034561
already 2.4k waiting room

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>>32034478
She's always been clear she's not pandering to unicorns and gachikoi anon, anyone who's actually a fan of hers never cared. Sora is the same

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>>32033535
Even worse, the movies after Infinity war are basically poisoned from years of absolutely garbage wokeshit, so the movies are also going to slam face-first into having shitty source material to pull from. Hell, Captain marvel is the prime example of that, all her comics are SHIT.

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>>32034474
Tempus debuting alone wouldn't had that much of an impact, but since iluna debuted alongside them and really dropped the ball when it comes to talents, it made tempus's image better lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034654
Thanks, ESL poster.

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>>32034711
>I am not surprised that homobeggars are using the same tactic as nijiniggers
They're the same people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034702
I'm happy asparagus is back in the lead with subs. He earned it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034579
Hololive is just so good at finding obscure talented streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034695
If the hologirls didn't enjoy collabs with men they wouldn't have done it, the only reason holding some of them back is because they think incels like you are going to try and kill them if they talk to a man on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034691
For our fellow ants

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034057
>Mumei
So it is confirmed that the homobeggars who never watched streams that are coming here for the damage control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034734
keep seething fujoshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034695
>feels like a girls' school
Just stop unicuck-kun, this is getting more and more pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034761
The two previous ID generations are an argument against that. Moona and Risu are great singers but damn are they streams not that great, excluding PekoMoona. They are better now tho.

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>>32034586
Hololive summer is all about locking-in those die-hard fans and merch sales, not viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034737
wasn't Elira's alt designed by her mama too? i wonder what's the deal with Selen having to commission another mama for her alt. did she go menhera too like what happened to Rosemi's?

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>>32034540
>and how much mentally healthier they are for not having to hide that they're normal people
Anon, the whole appeal of vtubers, both to the entertainer and to the public, is that they are not normal people but anime girls turned real.
It's a two way street: the entertainer can keep their life private and away from the prying eyes of a very intrusive public, the audience can fantasize about a character in ways that would not be appropriate to do about a real person.

There is already a form of live streaming entertainment where the entertainers behave "like normal people", vtubers are an alternative to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034774
Mumei literally collabed with Stars what is this historical revisionism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034335
What faction will Twapi in? Slaanesh?

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>>32034711
Let me rephrase this
Those nigger shitting the catalogs are not the part of the fanbase
And this place is small compared to other place like twitter/reddit so what you call general discontent here is not a big deal in other place

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034737
>>32034764
Ugh, could have sworn I copied the expanded one. My bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034561
If she actually does it with at least 9 streams overlapping her, my knees are gonna shatter into a million pieces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034695
>Quotes the goalpost moving baitpost that everyone ignored as if it's making a point
rumao fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034774
She collabbed with Holostars once so she is the same as Calli/Oli/Bae/Matsuri/FBK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034509
isn't the holosummer event tomorrow?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32034762
>the only reason holding some of them back
>Source: My dad works for hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034742
And it was unironically very popular and brought in a lot of people for her.

[Anonymous No.]

EEEH? EASY MODO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034812
>he says this when every vtuber has talked about their personal life on stream
watch streams, not threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034828

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>>32034861
a lot of awful people

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>>32034839
I'm talking about this one anon.
https://youtu.be/hH-qppYCgP4
Not the summer live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034665
Nijisanji doesn't give a fuck about costumes sadly.
Vspo would've fared better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034698
Yeah it will come out in September i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034784
Oh no no no no no, homobeggar bros! We have been exposed! How could we lose...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034800
Their live singing isn't very good either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034888
Oh
that one is just a shill stream anon

[Anonymous No.]

More clip numbers.
Miko(1->1) still in first, now with Minecraft. Pekora(4->2) also with Minecraft. Gura(6->3) with Minecraft. HL Official(2->4) and Kobo(3->5) with old clips (Kobo with viral clip: ZbilwWbyXHU, +103k). Suisei(13->6) with Minecraft. Chloe(40->7) with Minecraft. Subaru(16->8) with Minecraft. Lamy(5->9) with old clips. Salome(11->10) with old clips as well, and the first time she has dropped below 500k.
Good performances by Kanata(23->11) with Minecraft, Baelz(42->17) with Minecraft, Lui(42->17) with Minecraft, Fuwa(28->19) with 3D(?), Saku(54->29) with Splatoon 3, Haela(84->34) with Minecraft, Amelia(56->37) with zatsu (nyaa), Sora(92->40) with Minecraft, Nene(63->42) with Minecraft.
Split today is 16.8M(-690k) HL to 9.6M(-450k) NJ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034675
It's a mistake for Nijisanji not securing perms for Rust.

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>>32034812
>>32034875
jesus christ it's that Silvervale interviewer all over again

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034615
>Collabing with males are more harm than good
Between 2021 and now, there are at least 15 male collabs across 8 holo JP girls, but you don't see any of them reclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034878

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>>32034812
How does doing a few homo collabs a year change this?
The main content is the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034910
Yeah, I only realized when another anon pointed it out. Thankfully Peko's up at the same time and the thread might get a horse race.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034911
Graph.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034839
I'm still bummed about Holosummer. What a bunch of shit generic standardized swimsuits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034881
Keep moving those goalposts.

[Anonymous No.]

now that tempus iluna already one month.
is it a mistake debuting iluna same as tempus or niji achieved something?

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>>32034939

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>>32034938
Yeah, right? Damn incels. Just look at the nijigirls and their staggering success!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034702
How in the hell did Nijisanji fuck up its 6th gen recruitment? What's worse was they counter-programmed Tempus and it backfired.

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>>32034540
>idols
You do know that JP idols can be middle schoolers? And that unlike Western pimps, Asian parents will never allow their daughters to be in entertainment if they'll just be passed around by producers. Idol culture is partially a response to gain parental consent. Maybe if the West actually had parents who cared, kids can have their own self-worth instead of leaning on mental health buzzwords.

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>>32034938
That's really small amount of collabs anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the nijiniggers mad that the collab doesn't turn into an offpako dodgeball incident like what their livers did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034970
>Uniroically defending influx of ironic weebs from TT
Homos were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034972
it absolutely was a mistake, because it gave illuna a direct comparison. If they were actually good streamers that wouldn't have mattered, but since they were just taht shit it just highlighted their flaws even more

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034749
That's why I said that Suityan is good at tardwrangling her fanbase
Beside, I don;t think there are that many holomen that panders to gachikoi these days

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034965
It's not quite the event it could have been but then again they're likely playing it safe. Hopefully individual swimsuits make a return next year, which will be a good way to drum up some hype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034982

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>>32034938
Then you look at Subaru who dropped collabbing with males and inclined the fuck up. Soon people will forget Maimoto being part of the Oozara family.

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>>32034942
>You don't understand, (insert wildly inaccurate impression of what StarsEN boundaries are) might happen, and they can SPEAK ENGLISH

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034752
That was a big fuck up for Nijisanji. It actually gave Tempus more eyes than expected.

[Anonymous No.]

nijinigs tongue my anus
homobeggars tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034992
>you shouldn't date if you're a teen!
Typical repressed Asian cucks, no wonder their economies and populations are dying off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034875
Anon, I am not talking about "talking about personal life".
Every vtuber has a threshold of how much they choose to share and how much they choose to keep to themselves. Some are more open about theri daily lives, some are more reserved and there is an audience for both.

But in general terms vtubers are much more reserved with regards to the details they choose to share with the public, in relation to regular live streamers and that's what make them an alternative.
The great majority of them won't behave like "a normal person" and Silvervale even highlighted that fact (in a very poor way full of envy): a vtuber new outfit is an event, a live streamer using a different set of clothes is just expected.

Maybe there is an audience for streamers with avatars that do completely away with the separation between their private selves and their public characters but it genuinely looks like the majority of the audience flocks to the ones not doing that.

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>>32034842
Sora literally said that you literal retard
God, wahy don't these newfags ever learn about hololive before typing shit like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034965
they had to get 36 swimsuits out, it's not really feasible for them to come up with 36 distinct designs on that short a timeframe, especailyl since most of the earlier ones can't be used because they were made for the old 3d models, not the updated ones

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1564555797165912064
Chloe will /become/
serisouly though, what does she mean by this? does Chloe want to collab with Lamy?

[Anonymous No.]

Heh, good thing I mostly watch the JP girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035021

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>>32034761
Nijisanji has to pay their talents and staff well if they want to compete with Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034774
Fucking newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034749
I wouldn't say always because thats why she had to mention not wanting gachikoi and some people didn't actually know until she mentioned that/that clip spread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034942
I don't know why you are responding to this post, there is nothing in it about "homo collabs", it is a reply to "having to hide that they're normal people"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034615
you're wrong tho
kobo collab with tempus and uproar actually bring a much better numbers than collab with haachama, roboco and mel which each of those collab kobo failed to reach 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034861
where are they now? mv vod views are down & solo stream ccv are down. they're tourists. if you want that kind of viewer, you get niji teir viewership. they only come when there's some kinda "event" like today.

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>>32034540
>compare that to equivalent Western young pop stars and see how changes to their relationship status are accepted and how much mentally healthier they are for not having to hide that they're normal people who have the right to fall in love too
Are we talking all those drug addicted disasters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035071
h-hot
did you see that last Rui-nee collab, she fucking let her grope dem Wamy diddies up until her nippies, still gets me diamond

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035026
Anon, the drop was due to China

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035099
Yeah obviously with how much everyone inclined (she was a 3view when I started watching her...) that sort of thing needs to be occasionally re-stated for the newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035061
just stop replying to them. they're not arguing in good faith and just looking to rile people up since no one is biting on their shitty baits in the catalog anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035081

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>>32034800
Moona and Risu are arguably better singers than 95% of EN vtubers. Those that can compete with them funnily enough belong to HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034762
Goes to show once again that women need men to police them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035105
why does kobo get good numbers in valorant? She's probably the second highest vtuber with numbers like that and the first is kuzuha

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>>32035026
maimoto is closer to ui than subaru is these days though.

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>>32035069
Ehhh I don't really buy it.
Almost every Holomama has drawn their daughters in unique swimsuits in the past month so the designs are there.
The main reason why they're all generic is because Cover wants them to be sfw enough that they can still stream in them and not trigger Susan.
Something like Shion's unique swimsuit would trigger a few red flags.

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More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>32034911
Gura(6->1), Chloe(37->2), Pekora(3->3), Miko(5->4), Suisei(35->5), Kanata(19->7), Lui(30->8), Baelz(17->9), Subaru(31->10) all with Minecraft.
Split today is 7.2M(+480k) HL to 2.2M(+490k) NJ.

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>>32035137
>>32035149
Agree, people should post lewds instead.

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>>32034985
>Talking about HoloJP
>"B-b-but look at nijigirls!"
I'll never watch your whores nijisis

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035105
NTA but your example is not than convincing. Haachama collab was before Kobo really blew up. I could litterally see in your pic that her next solo have more CCV than that

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>>32035118
Burgers think that way

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>>32035178
Graph.

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>>32035193

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>>32035105
just adding on that Altare's POV of the Kobo Valorant collab from like 40 hours ago just hit 200k vod views, which is basically a Lux-tier performance (compare to Luca's recent vid page)

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>>32034806
Nijisanji is like a stepping stone for these artists until they can land a talent from Hololive.
Petra's Mama loves her Holo child more even though Niji fans dubbed the former as Gura killer.

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>>32035001
Right? It looks as if those collabs are their own initiatives and not something management mandated them to

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034816
>>32034836
Ok you fucking homobeggar. Stop hiding the context of that 1 time collab.

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>>32035026
Incline happened long after that and for entirely unrelated reasons, retard. At least do a better job of pretending you're not a tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry but numbers and lewd posting is the only absolute truth here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035129
>drop
Bruh what, Subaru has only been inclining. She wasn't considered a powerhouse of Gen 2 back then.
>>32035136
Should just put it in the description.
>>32035171
Most JP streamers (both vtuber and traditional) stream Valorant on twitch.

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>>32035237

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>>32034816
Niji fans malding Tempus is catching up to Luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

>holos collabing with men will harm their channel
Disproved by Kobo/Towa/Fubuki/Matsuri
>no one wants to watch holos collab with men even if they watch their other streams
Disproved by Tempus
There's no reason for holoJP not to collab with holostars now, if they think holostars JP have too few viewers to collab with they can collab with holostars EN instead

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>>32035013
Keep moving those goalposts, retard. It's cute when you do it with each new post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035061
You are not even a clip-watcher. You are literally just a thread-reader. Same as >>32034784 If you antis could at least watch clips, you wouldn't be shitting up the threads so much.

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>>32035268
are*

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>>32035280
This picture can pretty much sum up this thread most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035292
unironically kys fetishist

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>>32035173
do you want their 3D team to die? they need to work on the Uproar, Council, ID2&3's models, and whatever project that requires 3D. maybe in 2 years but definitely not next year unless Cover starts mass-hiring 3D modelers

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>>32035292
KYS HOMOBEGGAR

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>>32035292
Matsuri is like a showcase of how to fail to groom a fanbase to like a certain type of content (APEX).

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035174
Ui dropped Maimoto and invited Subaru instead on her bday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035015
What about cases like Watame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035325
Nijiseethe

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>>32035278

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>>32035238
because his vods was trending in indonesia
that means a lot of kobo audience also watch his pov

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>>32035301
The ones currently shitting up the thread and catalogs are you and your ilk, unicucks.
Just do me a favor and kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035332
All the usual shitty arguments against stars collabs have just been destroyed by Tempus, you're left with nothing. Keep seething, Tempus is going to save holoJP from the unicorns this year.

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>>32035362

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>>32035354
you're the one trying to turn holo into niji fucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035389
Neck yourself, tourist-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035238
Niji fans feel threatened Holo males can actually compete with their fags.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32034653
The JP beggars exist too. But they tend to just whine about it on their own twitter accounts and the girls might come across it during egosa.

[Anonymous No.]

Is vt unironically the only good vtuber community left? Reddit, Twitter and even Discords are starting to get infected by a large number of unity cucks. It's not even funny anymore, just sad now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035238
and before the defense force comes in with cope or >post pics
only the 1-time sub begging event and amongus were comparable

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035389
>unicucks
This really is the only thing homobeggars have, isn't it? Can you see the unicorns? Are they in the room with us right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035431
Tempusfags here, let me join.

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>>32035059
>But in general terms vtubers are much more reserved with regards to the details they choose to share with the public, in relation to regular live streamers and that's what make them an alternative.
Alright, I need proof on this
How often does "Normal" live streamer ever talk about their own life?

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>>32035079
Who's your oshi anon?
There's 50/50 chance she has collabed with male before

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035389
>>32035400
Begone, tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

STOP POSTING GURA'S LEWDS. I'M AT WORK RIGHT NOW AND CAN'T FAP TO HER

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035409

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>>32035400
and when they "save them" you're gonna stop watching and go back to niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035238
After all the doomposting back then, it's amazing to see how Tempus managed to exceed expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035439
Go back to your usual threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035461
Just don't watch the collab if you're going to be affected about it, simple as

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>>32033105
>HoloJP's audience is more conservative
Fucking Indonesia is also conservative, but you have HoloID who don't give a fuck about collabs with m*les.
Pagpagland is also relatively more conservative than burgerland but they are NijiEN cucks.

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[Anonymous No.]

What is the difference between homobeggars and unicuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035456
Everyone is welcome in lewd posting, it's the only truth that matters

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>>32035448
I doubt people know how hard it is for a EN vtuber to get a 200k VOD.
There's only like a handful that can do it with any sort of consistency (no one in Council can surprisingly except for Fauna's ASMRs).
Luca getting 100k views on all his VODs in this pic is pretty nuts actually considering his CCV was not impressive for most of these streams (5-6k only).
If Bae or Irys did a stream with 5-6k CCV, that VOD will likely not reach 100k views.

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>>32035347
Watamates are black boxes
On one hand I could see them being okay if Watame ever collabs with male, but I could easily see some of them mailing anthrax to Cover office

[Anonymous No.]

Aside from Peko Rust, are there any other gold contenders for today on either side?

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>>32035497
Today just proved once and for all that most hololive fans will continue watching male-female collabs and even enjoy it, the only thing that's going to happen is that nijiniggers like you will seethe as hololive takes over the niche that was once yours

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>>32035117
>Solo streams are down
>She's been spamming Live A Live and Va11halla

ogey

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>>32035178
There’s something genuinely funny about how Gura, who didn’t do a single thing this festival besides mess with Kronii, and Chloe, the flirt who spent time going after Kronii, ended up with more clip views than fucking Pekomiko, the stars of the festival who created it and had a central role in the event.
When EN3 rolls around I don’t even wanna know how much they’ll probably end up topping everything

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>>32035453
>Multiple post and threads about "the danger of collabing with males"
>/infinity/ is literally on fire
You blind or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035559
Both are literal blight and should be purged from this earth

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[Anonymous No.]

You know, all these argument can be boiled down to just one simple point

>Anime girls who do livestreams
vs
>Live streamers with anime avatars

Early VTuber / HoloJP might be the former, but I feel like nowadays, it's more of the latter

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>>32035609
you have no fucking idea what the fuck you're talking about, turning holo into this just makes it niji but married to a single theme

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>>32035448
and for those who want an apples to apples (even though it's not) comparison, HERE'S LUCA VALORANT IN MAY/APRIL, THE HEIGHT OF THE LUX BOOM vs 1st month, debut buff shedded, 140k subs Altare

[Anonymous No.]

So why are Japanese viewers against male-fenale interacrion when other Asian countries like SEA support it?

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>>32035542
I've long wondered whether it's proximity to burgerculture that's the reason. Indos are usually proficient in english, unlike JP, and familiar with western culture. Some of it likely ends up rubbing off.

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>>32035617
You thought people were joking when they said EN was more popular than JP? Numbers autists here have done the numbers, we know how much mindshare EN has purely because it has a far, far bigger audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035529
>Noooo you can't be rational about male collab here!

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>>32035617
yeah, it shows that they gain nothing from inviting ens and they deserve to be treated like garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035617
>Expecting EN3 to compete with Gura
Anon...

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>>32035578
>Luca getting 100k views on all his VODs in this pic is pretty nuts actually
tourist-chama...

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>>32035580
There's some female streamers who vibe with males better and some who work better isolated with other females.
Watame, Fauna, Lamy..etc fall in the latter and I can see them not wanting to collab with males simply because it feels weird. Not even a unicorn/gachikoi thing.
There's a difference between being okay with homocollabs and every girl needs to do a homocollab.

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>>32035631
>nowadays, it's more of the latter
You can thank Towa for that.

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>>32035641
Call me when they're talking about cock and pussy like what nijiEN did unicuck, otherwise I'm not interested in your doom posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035668
Their mindset are
"You can't watch what I don't like! REEEEEEEE!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035621
hmm, I wonder who benefits from all these shitposts. definitely, not the people who find it amusing to get free (you)s from newfags through baits. now fuck off to the catalog, your baits don't work here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035389
Sure smells like r*ddit in here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035707
Make your point bitch. I've been here since Coco's graduation stream.

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>>32035641
And as always holo will do it better than niji, nijifag, no wonder you guys are frightened and trying to scare the girls away from collabing with men lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035732
you literally just want nijisanji with a pg filter? are you fucking serious?

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>>32035621
Are homobeggars really incapable of following a conversation?

[Anonymous No.]

Stop being baited by tourists. Just because he shits on cooldown doesn't mean you need to reply.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijigold
>Nijigold
Nijigold
>Nijigold

[Anonymous No.]

you guys seriously overestimate the talent of a lot of the girls to think they're worth more than virtual girlfriends

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>>32035761
stream length, anonchama... Anyone could get 100k if they stream for 5 hours long to 4-5k people.

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>>32035761
the point is that you're delusional. getting a 100k on a vod for someone Luca's size should be easy.

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>>32031738
Members only chat with constant reminders to not backseat. As a greynig on her channel I didn't even bother staying. I just watched Mori's collab even if it meant getting my ears blown out every time the clock laughed directly into her mic.

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>>32035770
You mean just like Hololive since the very beginning?
How about you learn more about holo first newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035732
Can you tourists leave already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035788
Implying there is only 1 person posting here.

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>>32035711
How do you know that when you've never seen them collab with a male? Everyone thought Kronii would be awkward but she was enjoying herself more than she has at any time since debut with the DbD collab. Stop pretending these girls are just like (You), they're not autistic incels who shit themselves at the thought of talking to the opposite sex. They just fake being awkward because they're afraid of unicorns stalking and killing them.

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>>32035460
>Alright, I need proof on this
I'm not willing to entertain a conversation when there is no agreement even in a basic fact as
>with relation to regular streamers, vtubers are much more reserved with relation to their private selves

If you and I can't agree on that there is no possible agreement here and no value in continuing this conversation

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>>32035695
EN3 will be another Council. Wave of shitters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035752
Yeah you would know that wouldn't you faggot?

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>>32035840
and it surely stayed that way for 5 years and nothing happened in between you disingenuous fuckhead

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/hSgDeIe3SDI
>20 minutes left
>4.6k waiting
how does that compare to her usual waiting room?

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>>32035918
she won't beat selen. why do you keep posting her here?

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>>32035905
HoloJP never stopped collabing with males retard

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hey Koyori's Kaibutsu cover hit one million in a little under six days, putting her on the 32nd fastest song to hit one million views, just behind Suisei's king

[Anonymous No.]

I see the cumbuds have a lot of pent up frustration from not winning gold in a long time.

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>>32035901
Gura clone will fix that

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, here's an unpopular upinion: The number of unicorns in HoloEN fandom is actually in the minority. The quiet majority are those who don't care about purity at all and just enjoy the content. That's what I see based on the reaction on big communities on YT, Twitter and Reddit.

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>>32035905
Don't bother. Homopushers don't watch Hololive to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035901

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>>32035948
WHEN I SAY "KOYORI" YOU SAY "INCLINE"
>KOYORI!

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>>32035826
>Anyone could get 100k if they stream for 5 hours long to 4-5k people.
I wish man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upn7jlImUbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_SgwJmZFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NLFbcRQsBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L21t00ZJxvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az2L7dtSgjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J703wXxcCQ

The Kiara tunic stream was a 2k stream but it was 9 hours long.

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>>32035848
Why don't you faggot?

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>>32035889
>with relation to regular streamers, vtubers are much more reserved with relation to their private selves
Anon, the anime avatars in and of itself are already a filter to their private life

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033919
i know (You) are retarded..
but don't spread it to others..

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035943
you can't be seriously making this argument like trends, general culture and attitude, overall number, etc, are not relevant at all

[Anonymous No.]

>peko 5k waiting 16 min to go
Easy gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035958
she already confirmed that she isn't going to hololive. she's going to vshojo or tsunderia

[Anonymous No.]

Try harder nijinig, your psyop don't work in these quarters

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035948
>not a single gen 5 song is popular
Oh no no no gen 5 bros what do we do, maybe they can collab with Tempus to leech off their popularity since even Tempus songs are doing way better than whatever crap gen 5 released for their anniversary lmao

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>>32035979
fuck off schizo, stop trying to get people to shit on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035979
You're welcome

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>>32035965
That's not unpopular, just common sense. Here is something else to complete that statement
>despite not being against the occasional collab with males, the majority of the audience of each of the girls is in because of their current style of streaming (whatever it is) and would leave in droves if the style changed significantly.
A FPS chuuba switching to RPGs would lose a lot of her audience. A mostly solo chuuba switching to multiple collabs a week would likewise.

And a streamer that is mostly in the box branching out to collab off box would likewise.

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>>32036031
>heavy overlap
>rust buff is wearing off
she'll be lucky to get on the podium.

[Anonymous No.]

Witg how small the NijiEN fandom is, I'm surprised they're so good at sowing discord in the larger HoloEN community. All of these baits feel like a psyop thing.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32036011
None of those are relevant to the conversation retard
The main point is male collab is not something new or strange to hololive culture nor does it stopped when Holo exploded, and more importantly it doesn't really affect the girls viewership

[Anonymous No.]

I see my lewd posting being deletd, report more nijinigs

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035979
INCLINE

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>>32036065
>holoJP has been collabing with males for years so it won't be a change
good to know it's already a thing, hopefully holoJP won't be cunts and reach out for some collabs with StarsEN soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036083
Jesus, old lady hands and neck. How old is this cosplayer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036092
kys you dishonest fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036126
>waaah my unicuck feeling is hurt by males waaaaah

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036072
>Literally took the gold yesterday despite overlap 20 other pov

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036149
there's cuck porn in the internet already, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036119
I can see the odd collab with Tempus from the girls that had odd collabs with the Stars.
I can also see the girls that usually won't collab with the JP ones not collabing with the EN ones, and also the ones that never collabed with the EN girls not doing so with the EN boys likewise.

There won't be any status quo change from the looks of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035984
Tempus are exceptions because of their low sub count

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, unless they are doing some full blown GFE pandering, a couple of collabs with male won't even affect them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036124
35

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036126
Tell me then faggot, why are you so opposed to the girls collabing with stars or male in general?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036072
Miko will fuck up her pov and funnel Pekora
I trust in her to sacrifice herself again for another holo gold
I know this will happen 100%

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, I'm confused now. Is unicuck referring to "unity cuck" or "unicorn cuck"?
You guys make following arguments difficult

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034752
Same logic as the attractive girl pairing with an ugly classmate so the attractive girl looks even hotter

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036177
This, there's zero reason to avoid collabing with men unless they're the slimiest of streamer types, the Pokimanes and Amouranths of the vtubing world. You can tell which holo is genuine and who isn't just by this simple test

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036168
Yeah you love that don't you unicuck?
You see every little interaction between man and woman as cucking materal afterall

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035943
I know homobeggars are completely incapable of nuance so I'm not even talking to you, but for those who aren't, one of the important factors in this conversation is frequency. Management will want some collabs to spread the word of male gens and other reasons for collabs, particularly early on, but the question is whether a chuuba understands why people actually watch her (answer: her) or whether she wants to go the "L + ratio + ur cringe" route.
>>32035965
Again, homobeggars are incapable of nuance, but while unicorns are indeed a small minority, so are the people who watch vtubers for "the content/entertainment," which according to homobeggars always means "anything but CGDCT," which is the actual reason why the majority of people watch vtubers in general and Hololive in particular. If they didn't, they would watch any of the millions of other streamers.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32036229
Could be both honestly, this thread is too chaotic right now it's hard to pinpoint the exact meaning

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033648
>Mori and Bae dragged Kronii into a collab with the boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036257
>management forcing collabs
Stopped reading there, fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036250
gross fetishist

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036257
kys retard, or better, go back to niji general

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035918
Looks like a sub 30k to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Ragus got 10k CCV and 2k subs, was the collab really that fun?

[Anonymous No.]

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>>32036299
Do you think she will collab with the boys if not for both of them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036311
>>32036324
Keep seething, nijizhangjis. This is why there's no point in even talking to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>company mandated homo collab
Whiff some of this nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036359
Yes? Not everyone is a screeching incel.

[Anonymous No.]

so this is a pekora with multiple POV debuff vs a double raided outfit stream that got dragged to over an hour. if pekora takes gold again, that's just laughably bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036317
Hey, whatever piques your fancy anon
I don't kinkshame

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034702
make me rly wonder what they're going to bring with the male gamer gen to counter starsen2

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036355
only 10k? selen got 50k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036355
Holo Pro collabs feel more authentic as opposed to Niji Pro management mandated collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036324
>Homobeggar that want Hololive to become another Nijisanji is saying to "go back to niji general"
Ironic

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036407
anon I suffered through the 30 minutes of stalling, that's not an impressive number. Especially since I was promised 70k

[Anonymous No.]

>"I-It's a company mandated male collab!"
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036355
Only 2k subs? Kobo gave him more than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036359
>Kronii talked with Vesper off colab and on twitter
>Kronii watched and chatted in Vesper zomboid stream
Woah, looks like she was forced to by Bae and Mori anon, there's no other explanation other than that!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036419
Only nijiniggers are the ones afraid that hololive will become nijisanji because they know holos will mog them in that niche just like they've mogged in every other one, nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033871
For these idiots, having a stream with a m*le in the first place is NOT a normal stream.

[Anonymous No.]

So, how does Selen manage to surpass even Pekora? Is she the biggest vtuber now?

[Anonymous No.]

>Pekkers on the telly in 5 minutes
>last lewd post
See you later faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>NIJIGOLD
NIJIGOLD
>NIJIGOLD
NIJIGOLD
>NIJIGOLD
NIJIGOLD
it shall not slip this time.

[Anonymous No.]

Can we stop talking about midgets already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036440
>the seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036437
cope. holoEN will NEVER get 50k+ again.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036373
Keep seething unicuck, your oshi will collab with male next and you could do nothing but crying into your pillow and whine about it

[Anonymous No.]

People have the entire fucking catalog to post their schizo shit about male interaction, why are they doing it here

[Anonymous No.]

>32036463
Okay, I was prepared to bite any other bait or welcome a timeloop but can we some slightly better quality bait please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036257
>people who watch vtubers for content/entertainment are a small minority
Indeed, that's why Mumei jumps from 3k on SC reading to 20k on karaoke. Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

This one was too good to pass up, so last one

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036454
Ah. So you just nijinigger falseflagging as homobeggar. Got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036419
My oshi collabed with males plenty of times anon and you'd never hear any whining about it
Kenzokus are strong like that

[Anonymous No.]

well its too late for holojp

昔は定期的に男女コラボもしてましたしそこで生まれたユニットもありました。
しかしV界隈が盛り上がっていく中で、アイドル性を求めて自分の理想を押し付ける厄介な視聴者(ユニコーンと呼ばれる男性コラボアレルギーの処女厨)が他のV界隈から追い出されて女性のみで勢いのあったホロライブに集まってきた結果、男性とコラボしたり話題に出すだけで発狂して配信の邪魔をするようになりました(特にFPS等の大会ではVだけではなくストリーマーの人達も居るので「合コン」「オフパコ」等と揶揄されたり)。
同社のホロスターズでさえ叩かれてましたし扱いも悪いです。

こういう人達は中身はアレですが金だけは落とすので会社・商売としては立派な客なので無視できなくなり、他企業への迷惑を考えても迂闊に男女コラボができなくなりました。

もう今からその壁を壊すのは難しいですね 例えコラボでも男性と関わるだけで発狂する信者もいるので…

性別関係なく他企業とコラボしてた昔ならありえましたが今は無理でしょうね。
例え会社の方針が変わってそうなっても男と絡むだけでアレルギーが出るファンが許さないでしょうし、そういう人達が他から追い出されてホロに集まってしまったのが今の現状なので。

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>>32036463
Selen is undoubtedly THE LARGEST vtuber in the industry

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>wake up
>Rust kino starting soon
>ENcucks seething because Kronii collabed with a Homo which everyone except delusional retards knew was going to happen
today is a good day

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>>32036237
nah, it's the nerd with dumb jock pairing in a group of 5. The other 3 thought they'd be happy to have the dumb jock in their team until they realize he doesn't do shit in the assignment, and the nerd became the smart leader. At the end, the nerd acquired 3 new friends while the jock didn't get anything but bad rep.

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>>32036518
don't worry anon, i still have some

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>>32036518
Thanks for the cunny lewds anon

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>>32036385
>>32036453
Oh so no rebuttals but resorting to name callings and the clip about the troll superchat read by Kronii, got it.

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>>32036454
>no no no, hololive fans WANT hololive to become nijisanji
Nijiniggers going full retard trying to justify their collab begging.

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>32036513
>make shit bait
>self reply about not having good bait
sasuha retardchama

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>>32036496
This much projection isn't healthy, nijibro.

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What was the fat woman's waiting room at one minute left?

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>>32036593
It seems like Occam's Razor is too difficult of a concept for your tiny little brain

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it's bait all the way down

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Since people always bring up NijiEN's collabs, I was wondering if the same happens at NijiJP.
Do they have constant female/male interactions with no division? Do they have people just drop in on solo streams? Do they have the same level of flirting, and thirsting over each other?

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>>32036638
don't remember since it was raided twice.

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There is one interesting thing the Vesper (Vesper? Noir? How does his audience call him? Is this another Mori vs. Calli thing?) put very well
>you live and die by your solo content

Here is Calli chart for her 30 days median and true average.
That big spike in June 2022 was a sort of "Golden Week(s)" for Calli with
>her new outfit
>the start of TTRPG
>her collabs with Gigguk and her mingling with the Trash Taste crowd

That boost lasted for a couple of weeks but then it dropped precipitously because her choice of solo content in July and August hurt her tremendously.
It doesn't matter how much you get boosted or debuffed by collabs, touristic events and gimmick streams, your audience will always be proportional to the ones appreciating your solo content.

In the same chart it is easy to see exactly when Calli was playing Elden Ring and when she, instead, was playing Valhalla and Live a Life this year.

Vesper was right about "living and dying by the solo content".
>make interesting streams, get good numbers
>fail to do so, fail to do so

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>>32036593
>the clip about the troll superchat read by Kronii
Yeah how nice of her to say it with her own words and then visit Vesper's stream out of her own volition so there's no ambiguity.

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>>32036394
i would laugh at the timeline where starsEN2 get their own Kuzuha instead of NijiEN

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>this many homobeggar
Am I sharing this thread with actual homo?

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>>32036551
HoloJP have always collabed with males, nijinigger

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>>32036663
just search the dodgeball incident for the gist of it

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>>32036639
I'll personally emailed Omega about this, and just for good measure I'll also make sure to mention off-collabs opportunity

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>>32036663
>constant
Depends on the streamer, but I truly doubt any JP has the presence of other streamers in their own as frequently as NijiEN.

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>>32036556
kek I have not seen a truer statement in the past couple of threads.

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>>32036515
Wait, are you people really this retarded? That you don't understand how karaoke would appeal more to the CGDCT majority than SC readings?

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>>32036684
Eh, her real problem is relying on debuff shit

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Ninjin ninjin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSgDeIe3SDI

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>>32036663
>Do they have constant female/male interactions with no division?
Depends on the liver, but they don't usually make a big deal out of it. It's mostly professional.
>Do they have people just drop in on solo streams?
Almost never. This is purely NijiEN culture.
> Do they have the same level of flirting, and thirsting over each other?
Rarely, almost never. It's fucking weird to do that with coworkers.