why wouldn't you watch nijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

they stream harder than holoEN.
please watch nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

No.
Next question.

[Anonymous No.]

>this is what Ni**** do in their free time
Actually rent free. Actually inferiority complex. Actually middle-child syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Why would you waste so much time on an obvious falseflag? I hope you stole the image from reddit or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I don't like male interaction every day. Once in a while is fine, but I like the girls garden, I'm in for cute girls doing cute things and fanservice for the audience, and idolfaggotry, sorry anon nijien is not for me, but I hope you enjoy it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728519
>NOOOOOOOO THIS IS NOT WHAT NIJIBROS ARE LIKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
# posts belong in /#/. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>quantity over quality
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Because they're boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>stream harder
What does this mean, they click the "start broadcast" button super hard?

[Anonymous No.]

Already do but I can only save so many 3views during EN primetime

[Anonymous No.]

Different markets, different demographics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>quality over quantity
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728519
kill yourself /nijien/ newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728846
NijiEN has both the higher quality streams and the higher quantity of streams though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
They are so boring they have to grind hours!

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
imagine streaming this much and still failing. HOLY KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728846
Now that sounds like a cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728962
??? In what world is NijiEN failing lmao. They are doing better then they ever did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728846
Massive cope, unless you're willing to be consistent and say that Myth is actually far worse than Council based purely on the number of streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728832
The only correct answer. Besides people ARE watching NijiEN so I don't even know why is being a beggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Just watch the streamers who you like and want to watch. I dont understand this silly tribalism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Rosemi eating MRE...nothing new, already done by some indies month ago. NEXT

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
if you really want to convince people and not just get mad (you)s you should use this >>31699236
I wont watch them anyways 'cause I hate m-words but I can see why someone would give them a chance after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Because I like Hololive and decided to expand by horizons and now also watch phase connect and prism project

[Anonymous No.]

I have a job, responsibilities and things to do. I don't need 80 vtubers per year who are all kind of meh or purely sex fetishist content streaming 24/7 with 200 POV videos of the same Amogus collab. I want to sit down for 2-3 hours a day and see better quality content with people I actually am interested instead of some company which has completely diluted itself to pander to Chinese nationalists who have one of the worst cultures on earth which is almost entirely diametrically opposed to my values. You chose your bedfellows Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730226
You sound insane.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would people watch crap streams just because they stream more? Nobody will keep it up with it so why bother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I'm not gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730295
>nijicucks so assblasted at the truth they call others insane

Hes right, I work, come home to game and sometimes like to have one stream on to chill out to while I grind ff14 or something. I dont care if Niji has 10000 streams at once I can only watch one because Im a human being not a basement dwelling wizard

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>nijibeggars

[Anonymous No.]

>All falseflags, no matter how obvious, are actually real and true if it makes Nijisanji look pathetic and if you identify falseflags as falseflags you're a nijinigger

Really? This is where we're at now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>1661481180628567.png
conclusion? You need to stream less to be successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730478
Just to someone who actually watches them it sounds insane because its so massively off the mark and disconnected from the reality in just about every way that it sounds insane. It reads like someone who has just read all the anti narratives posted on this board and ate them up as factual without ever touching one of their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I am an American and derive more joy from watching Hololive ID than either Hololive EN or Nijisanji EN.

[Anonymous No.]

streaming is bad because it makes hololive look bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730649
That's because holofags watch only hololive and nothing else. So of course they are completely ignorant about the actual facts.

[Anonymous No.]

I won't watch Nijisanji because they have a fanbase so far beyond shitty that they repulse me from the actual streamers. I wouldn't wish this fanbase on my worst enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730912
>>31730649
Life is not about facts, logic, and efficiency. If you don't understand that, go live in a Western country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730912
had this thread yesterday and no one could explain how hololive content was better from everyone else. Trying to talk about it and asking questions made you "toxic" and "elitist" like wtf. Literally a cult where you should fall in line with samethink or else

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730649
You do understand people exaggerate things to illustrate a point? The most popular Niji EN vtuber creates rape fetish ASMR content. They debuted more than double the amount of vtubers in their EN branch as Hololive during the same period. They have a bizarrely large interest in China and are constantly beholden to that bizarre audience and their absurd cultural standards.
These parody versions of each company exist on this board purely because they are accurate enough that they illustrate the problems with them.
And I actually watch Nijisanji along with Hololive. It's just all of their members post Obsydia are trash and do not interest me in the slightest. Quality>Quantity because I'm not some loser who's watching vtubers 24/7. Nijisanjii EN produces more content than anyone with a life can reasonably watch and most of it is boring, pandering to coomers or pandering to some demographic which isn't me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I will not watch NijiCN no matter what or how much they stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730226
>I want to sit down for 2-3 hours a day and see better quality content with people I actually am interested
Better quality content...like Rust and Minecraft? Am I reading this correctly? Sounds to me like you need to work on the quality of your standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731214
Get off this board then, casual

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731295
The quality is that those streams aren't a discord call with an entire branch talking over each other and I like the personalities and sense of humor of those streamers more.
You're confused that people have different personalities and preferences. It doesn't matter if someone streams more or plays some game you're personally interested in, it won't change another person's preferences. What kind of retarded group think is this with you Niji stans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Because they aren't vtubers. They're just your usual twitch streamer using an anime avatar because they're too ugly to show their face. They don't even bother a bit into playing into their character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731496
Let's take a look at what you actually would have got in the last week if you were watching 3 of the more popular girls on NijiEN.

Pomu, you have 5 solo streams and 1 collab with a single girl. Solo streams Minecraft, Unpacking, Mario Maker viewer levels, Metal Wolf Chaos and weird creative thing.
Selen you have 4 solo streams and 2 collabs, 1 celebration stream and 1 of her usual apex stuff. She is doing some horror week her fans wanted so you have a lot of horror playthroughs there for her solo streams.
Elira you have 6 straight solo streams. 2 JRPGs Earthbound and Xenoblade 2, 1 visual novel Somium Files, a roguelike Cult of the Lamb , a 7hr chatting stream, and VR "girl cooks dinner for you stream"

What would you have got if you watched 3 popular HoloEN girls for the same period?
Gura - 1 rust stream that is all
Mumei - 1 rust stream and a celebration that is all
Ina - 1 rust stream, Elden Ring, Cult of the Lamb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731496
Yeah so like I said, get better standards, thanks for confirming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731496
Ok then watch solo streams ??? Since NijiEN actually streams you have more then enough content without a single collab.
And you literally don't need to watch everything... nobody does, just watch what you want and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Just like gay porn, it's just not my thing, so no thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731740
>>31731870
>>31732098
1. You're all retarded because I watch Pomu, Elira, Selen and Rosemi. You're entirely arguing against shadow people in your minds.
2. What do you not understand about having limited time on my hands and choosing to watch people or streams which are more interesting? You gave me a list of streams which amount to more time than I spend awake.
3. Your Niji number drama is literally rotting your brains with this bizarre inferiority complex on behalf of people who aren't you.
4. I prefer the personality of the people in Hololive more because Niji's corporate number culture erodes their personalities.
5. Watching Rust is actually very entertaining to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31732418
Good for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31732418
The only reason I responded to you with this post >>31731740 is because you said
>The quality is that those streams aren't a discord call with an entire branch talking over each other
As if that is something normal when you just need to actually watch them to know it isn't the case that its a common thing. The only stream there which had a lot of people on it was Selen's 500k celebration and even that was mostly limited to no more than a 3-4 people at a time when I was watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
How many nijien are there now? I lost count

[Anonymous No.]

>>31732792
26 for now. Right now they have new audition for male gamer wave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31732418
>same but for hololive
1. i watched haato, matsuri, roboco
2. i also have limited time
3. /#/ thread is right there and they hated luxiem to the point of botting millie
4. holo is 2nd best in the industry and has worse number culture
5. rust is more interesting when people aren't all from the same group

[Anonymous No.]

Why are NijiENfags so unlikable? The fans of other branches seem like good people to me and I never found much issue with them, at least compared to the ENfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Because Nijis are shit. It's that simple. They aren't idols, they are just a bunch of dudes and whores who collab and constantly hang out with said dudes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
The truth is that HoloEN is for the casual fan (>>31730226) that is overwhelmed by the amount of content, NijiEN is for actual vtuber enthusiasts. Literally the Windows and Linux of vtuber companies.
It's a shame the fanbase has been overrun by women because you people didn't give them a proper chance before Luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31733868
I have a job and responsibilities too. I just pick a couple of members I like the most and watch mainly them. Just because there is lots of content in the company overall doesn't mean you need to watch it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
> en
> nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>31733063
again, why do holofags attack the person instead of the argument? It's always a dodge with you people

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734132
Because I didn't come here to to reply to your arguments or shit on your chuubas (plenty of them are shit btw, some are nice though), I came here to ask why (You) are unlikable. This doesn't happen with fans of the main branch

[Anonymous No.]

Every single time I tune into a niji collab it's multiple girls and guys together laughing about penis jokes or talking about sex or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734264
I think its because fans of the main branch don't want holofags to know about their vtubers or watch their vtubers. They are happy staying in their own little corner and gatekeeping everyone away from NijiJP. While the fans of NijiEN are more similair to Hololive fans in that they very openly want to promote their vtubers and tell lots of people about how good they think they are which results in more clashes between the fanbases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734264
I reciprocated this behavior yet holobronies still get mad when they clearly do the same to others, wonder why

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734409
As someone who watches both, it is entirely Nijisanji fanbase which does the culture waring more. Look at what thread we're in and you're all still blaming Hololive. That is the biggest joke about the people who go this insane about a company/branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734589
I didn't blame anyone? I just said the NijiJP fans keep to themselves and are happy that way so they don't have much opportunity to argue with Hololive fans really. Meanwhile the fans of NijiEN want to tell people about how great they think NijiEN is and get other people to watch them too. That results in a lot more contact with other fanbases (including hololive) and thus a lot more conflict.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734409
>I think its because fans of the main branch don't want holofags to know about their vtubers or watch their vtubers
I would agree if this was /jp/, but have you seen the OP of /2434/? >>31722353
That's far from the case, I only see that behavior fron NijiENfags in this board
>While the fans of NijiEN are more similair to Hololive fans
I mean, it was obvious from the start that plenty of NijiENfags migrated from Hololive, at least the ones watching the NijiEN girls
>>31734518
I don't care retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734769
That might be in the OP but when I used to actually look at that thread it was exceedingly rare for anyone outside the fanbase to actually go into it and a lot of people outside the fanbase had the impression that they would still get the same treatment they would in the /jp/ thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji is the Jersey Shore of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734912
I don't know, I admittedly don't watch much Niji but I've shared a few threads with Nijifags and they're good people. I also asked a few things time ago and they were nice to me
It's only the ENfags who annoy me even in /NijiEN/ and I think youre on point >>31734736. At least I'm glad they aren't as bad as the NijiEN twittards who are akin to k-pop stans

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734589
i watch both and it's the holo fanbase that as a constant nijihater thread and always attacks non-holo vtubers. There's literally no discussion and all they do is spout the same antagonistic memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>31729200
oh, is that why maria has 700 viewers less than a month since debut while doing ASMR, one of the most buffed type of streams? yeah, sure sounds like a wild success to me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>31733063
Jannies never visit /NijiEN/ so shitposting and falseflagging runs rampant there and puts people on edge all of the time. Also, NijiEN came out during a time frame when Hololive had a near monopoly on the whole EN scene, so it was a constant battle during the first few months and it only worsened from there. The cold treatment of the other team from each side's management exclusively towards EN members only worsened things and continued to reinforce tribal narratives. Besides that, before when Cover screwed up, you couldn't shit on them without outing yourself as an anti to the rest of the community, now you can just hide behind a smug purple dragon image and troll to your hearts content, let the other community take the blame, and none would be wiser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31735569
this was just this morning bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>31732418
I'm not the one multilinking and paragraph posting now am I? Who's the real retard I wonder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
They're all not interesting plus thanks to Vox being fujobait I now see all their males as fujobait.

Elira = another gacha ho
Finana = SJW
Pomu = Pikamee 2.0. "That interesting VTuber" you'd rather watch clips of than stream.
Selen = found out what was entertaining was her response to stuff/people she's collabing with, not herself.
Petra = appears weak and bullyable. Not what I like
Rosemi = gacha ho (maybe, idk) + bland af
Nina = sounds like a waste of my time
Millie = seanig
Enna = seanig but good at singing but still seanig and as a seanig I hate other seanigs as some sort of projection of my bad interactions with other seanigs and my inferiority complex towards countries are doing better and have better people than seanigs
Reimu = bland latina

I feel that HoloEN are more trained. Most of them know a few Japanese phrases and sentences now just for communicating with their senpai. They have the better character designs. They have better merch. They have better commercial collabs. It just feels like Hololive has a clearer direction than Nijisanji on what they want their VTubers to be. I like that more than the "hey come watch these dudes and girls hang out like bros" vibe of Nijisanji. So no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31734736
>the fans of NijiEN want to tell people about how great they think NijiEN is
I have never seen them do this in a format other than "here's why they're better than holoEN". If they can't shill their chuubas without comparing them to someone else I'm not interested

>>31735601
You can't call it falseflagging when tribalism and numberfagging in /NijiEN/ gets half a dozen replies of "hell yeah fuck holobronies" and nobody tells them to fuck off and get a rope

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737327
>Elira = another gacha ho
This is really wrong? The only time Elira has played a gacha game on stream in the last half a year is when she is being paid to do it. She is more about long solo streams of single player/story based games. See the last weeks here
>>31731740

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737373
holofans market holos as "not western whores" so why do you watch them if they cant tell you whats great about them individually

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEn is a busted ass bootleg vtuber experience. Even some 2view indies feel more official, well prepared, and more high effort than Niji shit. Not to even mention the twitter lingo and retarded westerner bullshit they spout

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737531
Get out of /vt/ and you'll see a lot of holofans explain that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737622
same, but for niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737687
They were very condescending, as if only Niji had the good stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737327
>Most of them know a few Japanese phrases and sentences now
Elira, Petra, Reimu and Rosemi are more or less all fluent I think. Pomu can do basic conversations without much difficulty, Millie and Enna can do phrases and sentences. It's just Finana, Nina and Selen that are complete eng

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737762
Sounds like holofans. Nijis actually talk and collabs with non-nijis, non-corpos, non-vtubers so their networking level and reach is very high

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737327
Finana is also a whore. She's cheated on her previous boyfriend and is apparently into NTR. Her sister is a tranny and also a whore, it runs in the family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737948
>Nijis actually talk and collabs with non-nijis, non-corpos, non-vtubers so their networking level and reach is very high
This is what I'm talking about. "Look we collab with more people, we're superior." I hope you understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737531
I don't watch most of holoEN either.
It's not like Hololive need shilling either, everyone knows what their deal is. You already know if you're interested or not. It's like asking someone to explain why you should enjoy Coke

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738132
Yes, its very condescending to have an argument as opposed to just feelings I get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737513
Wow ok. It just goes to show that I never watch her, then. Something about her design magically filters me. Maybe it's the fact that Selen was an ex-Apex predator and I highly respect gamers with actual skill and my brain automatically told that Elira is inferior and therefore not worth my time.
I might come around to watch her and Pomu's The Quarry stream because Reimu botched finding the Tarot cards early on and did no better in the NijiUK playthru. These girls are getting mogged by Silvervale at that game, and it's a movie game.

>>31737836
Yeah but NijiJP are less ingrained in my mind than HoloJP, so I look towards more HoloJP + HoloEN interactions than NijiJP + NijiEN. Elira, Petra, Reimu and Pomu came out the gate knowing the Japanese they know. HoloEN seem to be progressing in real time.

>>31737960
I like NTR too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738258
Glad you understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738258
You haven't explained what's supposed to be good about them there, you've just said "they do more of <x> than holoEN"
If I chose who to watch based on who does the most networking I'd be watching Ironmouse and Tamaki
If I chose who to watch based on who streams the most (like the OP) I'd be watching Ars, Chihiro, and Watame

[Anonymous No.]

Quality > Quantity

[Anonymous No.]

>>31733063
Women replaced the male fans and left and all we're left with is shitposters, that is all

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738606
I did nothing but shoved holologic back into your face and sprinkled it with some facts and now you demand an entire explanation despite it being YOUR argument in the first place. Your feelings isn't telling how holo is good either

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I only like Rosemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738359
>The Quarry
Elira and Pomu don't take it seriously at all. They are playing the game purely to make fun out of it.
>highly respect gamers with actual skill
I wouldn't say Elira was skillful, but she isn't bad compared to a lot of female vtubers. Like you have girls like Millie, Pomu and Enna that struggle to navigate a 3D space for games like Apex. Elira could at least solo her way to gold and occasionally do fun things in FPS.
https://youtu.be/IYl9cBCneZc?t=258
She can be a bit small brained strategically in single player games. She is kind of a meatheaded bruteforce player who keeps trying strategies until they work. She can be a bit slow to learn but she does learn eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738795
You're not talking to the same person

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738795
Where did you even get the idea that this was some hololive vs nijisanji argument to begin with? At no point did anyone tell you you should watch hololive, just that if you're going to shill nijiEN you should come up with some reasons that aren't "they're not hololive"
If you perceive everything as some tribalist attack you might need to take a break from this board for your mental health

[Anonymous No.]

Your males are faggots and I hate them and your females are whores and I hate them, hololive isn't better but niji doesn't get a pass just because they're better than them (low bar)

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737373
Maybe if mods did their job instead of coddling a single thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738987
see >>31737531

I don't know why you keep looping the supposed gotcha comment. People are demanding some points on why niji is good when OP pic provides it and you just keep dodging your end of the argument when it comes to holos

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji EN fans:
>You need to watch all the vtubers you're not interested in because I'm interested in them! You can't even explain why you don't like them!
>I'm angry that you're explaining why you don't like them and why numbers are meaningless! I'm going to doxx in Hololive Global now and spam the board with bait threads. We're an oppressed minority and there's favoritism on this board which is systematically trolling us!

[Anonymous No.]

I stopped watching petra after she started getting males randomly join her streams, every single time I had a chance to watch her live it would happen, fuck that. and now she has rejected cunnyhood, fuck that twice.

[Anonymous No.]

Crazy how Vox, Finana, and Mysta's existence is basically the only amount of information people need to hate a branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739187
if you are just basing it off the image, there are a ton of hardworking small corpos/indies with tons of hours and variety of streams. Why choose nijisanji over them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739300
again, this statement provides no positives for holos just like what holofans have been hounding niji arguments over in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>31738828
Checked the VOD for The Quarry. They failed at finding Tarot cards for the first two sessions at the Hag. Dropped. Checked your linked VOD. I agree with you. Still not gonna watch her since nothing stands out to me and I hate Valorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739244
Who the fuck is doxxing and spamming? Whenever I look at /nijien/ there's pretty much just complaints about how the thread is either dead or filled with boring ass male discussion; shit is literally entirely full of fujoshi who don't care about Hololive enough to "doxx in Hololive Global"

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739300
What I really like about NijiEN is the tight friendship they have with each other. The holos seem so empty by comparison. I also watch Amiya and Lisa sometimes. Amiya streams almost every day and works really hard, she's worth supporting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739471
again with the holos. i'm asking why nijisanji over any other small corpo/indie that also provide the same thing you do with more variety and more hours streamed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739187
>>31739395
Why do you think people are obliged to provide counterarguments in favor of hololive here? You're the only one who thinks this is a holo vs niji argument to begin with, because you have tribalism on the brain
I don't watch holoEN, so saying "they stream more than holoEN" tells me fucking nothing. So do most vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739515
Who are the ones with more hours streamed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739515
>provide the same thing
not really. They can't be full time streamers so for the most part their streaming is like a scattershot. Also remember that most of the NijiEN girls WERE small indies just a year ago, which is why they have such a tight friendship with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739449
>Who the fuck is doxxing and spamming?
Anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739442
I was just providing it as an example of her being a bit better than many female vtubers anon. She doesn't really play FPS ever on stream generally. I think maybe 4 times this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739538
Here's your new favorite vtuber bro
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLO9QDxVL4bnvRRsz6K4bsQ/videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739244
no one is asking you to watch all of them. People here haven't discussed anything at all and it's pretty much just one side using a brain while the other runs through their usual basket of holoschizo shit. There's doxxposting in this thread right now about finana even though most of it is fake

seriously lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739660
>small corpo/indie
>EN
come on anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737960
Didn't Finana pretend she's a virgin at one point? Or am I just misremembering a clip I saw?
Is anybody at this company not just a complete liar to try to appeal to the gachikoi audience?

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive has more off-stream obligation to tend to

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739679
How schizo has this fanbase gotten? Have you even looked at the title, image and message of the OP of this message?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31737327
>Elira = another gacha ho
>Rosemi = gacha ho
>Enna = seanig
what the fuck are you even on about

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739717
I don't see why her being from the same company should disqualify her, she streams a lot
Sometimes those streams even consist of something other than 11 hours of autism noises and the squad eliminated sound effect

[Anonymous No.]

Am I in a timeloop? Wasn't this shit posted yesterday too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739749
ah yes the gura idol lessons argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739679
>no one is asking you to watch all of them
The thread image is very detailed and clearly required a lot of effort

[Anonymous No.]

As a Pomufag
If you gel with Hololive/HoloEN there's no reason to switch. Your talents are already doing very well and if you're satisfied with their output I'm not qualified to tell you to watch someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739749
Do they though? I mean someone like Elira has covers she is working on, a 3D event performance she is preparing for, multiple sponsorships a month to work on, voice packs to record, had convention appearances this month and she has streamed 112hrs, the closest HoloEN to that is Kiara with 73hrs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739774
She isn't indie or small corpo, like that post was saying. I want to see examples of indies and small corpos that stream more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739848
Yeah, people spend a lot of time doing dumb pointless shit like compiling whatever is in the OP image. It's already been reused a few times and gets hundreds of (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
No thank you
I watch superior NijiJP chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

Less vods to catch up on

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739922
I watch smaller vtubers when I see them streaming something interesting. But for the most part it's like a scattershot. They don't stream at regular hours. So for the most part I'm rooted to Niji. But I like catching Amiya when I can. Actually she's streaming right now.
https://schedule.tsunderia.com/#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739800
Same exact OP image and same exact person trying to debate people like he's Ben Shapiro. This guy tried to claim yesterday that Pomu and Rosemi are some of the most creative Vtubers ever so I'm inclined to think it's a really poor false flag because I doubt anyone can actually think that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740054
They're very creative. Always doing interesting and creative things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740054
holofags get destroyed by their own facts and logic

[Anonymous No.]

This thread in a nutshell:
>You should watch NijiEN because <autistic numberfagging about something that doesn't matter>!
>OK, but what's good about their content?
>You can't explain what's good about someone else's content either! Checkmate, person I assumed by default to be from an opposing tribe because I am mentally ill!
I look forward to seeing this thread again tomorrow following the same script

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740029
That is what you would expect and I am not going to fault them for it. If you don't make enough to make it a full time gig you have to be like that. I was just genuinely curious as to who these people are because it seemed like the guy had concrete examples from how confidently he was talking about there being ones that stream more. But nothing materialized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740054
>When Nijifags are confronted by the fact they're the real problem on the board they blame it on Hololive.
Chinese people exporting their lazy psyop strategies to avoid looking like idiots...

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740263
They didn't mention Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740213
>You should watch NijiEN because <autistic numberfagging about something that doesn't matter>!
holo arguments in general only if they're winning. They curl up into a ball when you bring up numbers when they're losing though
>OK, but what's good about their content?
OP pic and several comments provided this. Holofans still missing on their end
>You can't explain what's good about someone else's content either! Checkmate, person I assumed by default to be from an opposing tribe because I am mentally ill!
still not convinced that hololive has better content with this hail mary of a hyperbole/strawman whatever

sorry that discussion strays away from your usual NPC text options so you can't just meme it away

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740318
Sure, in a thread which is comparing Hololive to Nijisanji favoring Nijisanji, the people who would be falseflagging are the Phase Connect or Vshojo fans....

[Anonymous No.]

What reasons do people have for liking Vtubers than "I personally like them" "they're good at singing" or "They're creative" What qualifies as good enough for you? I'm not telling you that Hololive is shit (They're great and HoloJP have some of the best vtubers in the industry) or to stop watching them, just that there's no harm in trying the NijiEN girls holy FUCK why is this so controversial (I'm not the OP + OP is a faggot)

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740475
I did not mention hololive anon, you are once again assuming this is a tribal war because you are mentally ill. The only streams I watched today were NijiJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740516
I don't think falseflag shitposters have any particular allegiance to any company
If they're Hololive fans it's probably because like 99% of the people on this board are also Hololive fans. It's the default. It doesn't mean they're all evil meanies who hate Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740619
Thread mentions it which that comment tries to summarize what the thread is about
cmon dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740213
>OK, but what's good about their content?
I mean I can only talk for me but one of the main things than won me over to NijiEN is how much they seem to love what they are doing, enjoy interacting with their fans, genuinely appreciate the fact that they have them, show it through their actions and pour themselves into the job. You get people like Pomu, Selen and Elira that will play a game for 5 or 6 hours and then sit there for hours afterwards just chatting with their viewers regularly or do an 8hr zatsudan like Elira did the other day. You get streams nearly every single day rather than getting a couple of hours a week when they can be bothered to show up and instead of making an excuse about tummy hort. I also like how genuinely close knit a lot of the members are you have people that have been IRL friends for a decade in the branch and it shows in their interactions with each other on collab streams and the way they all talk about hanging out of stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>he posted it again
Why don't you just fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740606
No one has a problem with watching other chuubas, it's just the antagonistic tone always trying to one up Holofags from the nijiENfags here that turn people away. This goes both ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740213
The creativity!

~ Rosemi
Rosemi does an astronomy knowledge stream that she actually studied for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nZTTUmX7E
Rosemi does her own saturday night live skit show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dv-c0c_bfU
Rosemi decides to stream 12 hours nonstop, letting the marbles choose her fate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge264beI6L0
Rosemi interactive detective stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFD-CuVZKA
Rosemi's ongoing lore series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAcONkMOv0g

~ Millie
Millie Adult Stream, where she set up a bot to detect messages in chat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAUKSOErdVA
Millie exposes discord sluts and causes malding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd_U-aw0DDI
Millie becomes creative during an ASMR stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaAIM-GM8FQ&t=6870
Millie sketch roleplay stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itRO2fSBPI4

~ Pomu
Pomu draws arbocs because....nobody really knows why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMIoYn8Acc
Pomu running stream. Pomu does running-streams for membership. She actually runs during the stream and talks to chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utbtoYOE68M
Pomu does this crazy stream to stress test her PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb6jpMVzGNw
Pomura Inpuff dating stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fAXGA5FIc&t=1055

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740709
See, this was almost a good job at shilling them, but then you said
>rather than getting a couple of hours a week when they can be bothered to show up and instead of making an excuse about tummy hort
which adds nothing to the substance of your post, it's just griping about someone else who's unrelated to the point you're making

[Anonymous No.]

The worst thing about this Holo/Niji war is that it creates a false binary (with Vshojo being a 3rd option sometimes but even that is too mainstream and overrated) where people assume that Hololive and Nijisanji are the only options. Watch small companies and indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741000
Whats wrong with that? It's something that turned me off of other vtubers in comparison to them. Many of them seem like they will make any excuse to get out of doing a stream rather than being eager to spend time with their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Work smarter, not harder, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741069
I already watch plenty of vtubers who aren't like that, and don't watch the ones you're complaining about, so it just comes across as you being bitter about something I have no reason to care about
I'm reminded of the old Pepsi marketing where they'd never shut the fuck up about Coke, it just made them look pathetic and insecure

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741274
I think its relevant to the point I was trying to make? I was talking about how they show they show things through their actions, then giving examples of that. I didn't make a slight at anyone specific. If you see a specific insult in that then I guess that says something about who you might think its aimed at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>Group with the most member also has more stream scheduled
I really wonder why...

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739749
Can you tell me what projects that holoen girl have to do off-stream ? Do they live in japan to do idol stuff ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741430
Don't pretend you didn't have someone specific in mind with the words "tummy hort" anon, nobody is that retarded even here

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741603
One immediate example is that Ina, Shien and Fubuki all appeared in phantasy star online recently and had to do things like record voice lines. I'm not autistic enough to list all of those things. But the ones in Japan have definitely had to do other promotional appearances, Suisei went on a talk show, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741069
>>31741430
You're being a disingenuous piece of shit. Fuck off, we already have it bad enough with all of the misinfo and slander spread by trolls, and pathetic faggots like you trying to badmouth the other company in an attempt to promote Nijisanji just add fuel to the flames.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31742000
I'm not being disingenuous at all I was being completely sincere. I didn't have anyone specific in mind when I wrote that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31742000
are we not allowed to to compare the top vtuber companies to anything now? Even then people already listed what one company does well and people are still crying about hurt feelings. Can't believe you bought into this asinine logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>31742225
Nevermind that there are tons of posts in this thread outright calling NijiEN members whore and faggots outright. If you say something that could possibly be interpreted as a slight at Hololive you are the bad guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31742308
its completely terrible. theres a rosemi thread on right now of anons calling her a whore and slut for cosplaying. the only explanation i see is that most holoen fans are miserable with all their fanbases imploding and shitflinging so they go shit up nijien threads to make themselves feel better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I prefer quality over quantity, so no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31742106
bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>31742106
>>31742225
>>31742308
We are already written out to be the bad guys by the greater culture. Hololive fans hold the power and control and they dictate the narrative of what goes forward. It doesn't matter if lashing out to perceived slights or pointing out flaws in the other company feels "justified", it'll just make things worse because that just proves to them our villainy in their eyes. The best thing we can do is not give into the temptation to shittalk the bigger dog, and instead spread love for our oshis through positivity.

[Anonymous No.]

I actually wanna give them a chance, but the collab spam really isnt for me bc i prefer to get to know the talent more in their solo content. Are there nijien livers who are fantastic solo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744282
>Are there nijien livers who are fantastic solo?
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744021
Why are you retards so spiteful?
It seems like you take this board way too seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Suzuki Masaru is hot, I wonder what his armpits smell like

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744282
I would recommend any of the three in this picture for a sample of what they have
>>31731740
They are all great solo streamers in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744408
I'm pretty sure Ren hasn't done any solo streams for 2 weeks in a row so maybe not quite all of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744282
Pomu, Rosemi, Millie.
I also like Aia when she's femdomming.

But probably the queen of solo streaming is Elira
https://files.catbox.moe/nbjtac.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>31745000
Anon your reading reps. I was specifically recommending Pomu, Elira and Selen as solo streamers and linking to that picture to give a sample of their content you can expect on their channels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31745089
Selen is intense

[Anonymous No.]

>>31745187
True she is. Sometimes it can be a bit much for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744282
>collab spam
Pomu doesn't have a single collab on her schedule in the OP >>31728263
In fact Gura has more collabs in her 2 streams this week than Pomu usually has on her schedules.
Elira also rarely ever collabs and if she does it's usually not on her schedule because she doesn't stream her pov.

Some of the livers just avoid putting anything they aren't streaming on their schedule because otherwise it'd have like 10 streams on it per week and they know it's unrealistic for fans to watch everything. You can freely skip those streams if you're not interested. It's actually a huge difference from people like most of Council who just fill their schedule with collabs to avoid putting effort into their content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744282
https://streamable.com/b8fqxz

[Anonymous No.]

Quality > Quantity. Next

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Nijisanji is for women

[Anonymous No.]

>>31745425
Her voice is beautiful when she she wants it to be. She should do reading ASMR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31745466
>Average Pomu schedule
Doom
MGS
Some sort of la creatividad stream
Playing games with viewers
Hand-sewing plushies or other handcam streams
Minecraft

>Average Gura schedule
Rust
Rust
See you guys next week! Stream Reflect!

Real nice "quality" you got there holobrony lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

Based falseflagging thread, perfect for /#/ to comb through later to point out the "toxic nijifags".

[Anonymous No.]

I'm bumping this thread for Jannies to see there are other Vtubers aside from Hololive streamers.

This is getting ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

Reason is nijien(cn) fan is toxic simple. You go to catalog, all you see is thread trying to discredit hololive. They win gold in number, you’ll never see them talking about the stream all you see is them trying to down talk hololive. You see anything agaist coco or rushia nazuna, it’s nijisanji trying to falseflag as hololive.

This is what happen when you adopt previous holo antis into your company… at start i was neutral because i thought it was just the anti trying to attack hololive. But then the discord leak happen, it was the vtuber themselves wanted to destroy hololive. Say why am i not watching you guys again?
Vshojo is fine, hololive is fine. Niji jp is fine.
Niji En(cn) is not fine.

Instead of creating anti thread everytime why not translate your jp senpais.. show me you guys are true fan. Everything niji en looks fake to me. It looks manufactured to me just like polar in tiktok.

[Anonymous No.]

ESL overload.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31746672
The normal fans are mostly just in their general enjoying the streams not trying to bait hololive fans in the catalog. It's the same shit as when Hololive does their festival and you got 20 threads shitting on Nijisanji anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31744282
>>31744408
>>31745081
>>31745425
op here, thank you! i'll go check out elira and pomu

[Anonymous No.]

>>31746672
Is this a real indog ESL or is this just a larp with the shit English and blatant tribalfaggotry? If it were any other board I'd give them the benefit of the doubt but with indog /#/fags their willingness to embarrass themselves knows no limits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31746825
https://youtu.be/2uiNBupi33s?t=12196
https://youtu.be/2uiNBupi33s?t=8436
pretty good singer too if you are into karaokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>31745751
I'm mainly a HoloJP fan, and I've watched most of Pomu's MGS streams ("After Zanzibar"), her Doom 2 playthrough and her SotN. I think she has a better game selection and is a better game streamer than anyone in HoloEN, and the way she gets into games reminds me a lot of Pekora. Seen a bit of Selen too, some of her DeS playthrough, and a Ready Or Not stream with Rosemi, I believe, in which they came across some players larping hard as SWAT, which was pretty funny, but other than that I'm not much into her. Never really sat there watching any of the other members and I'm not interested in the boys to begin with.

I'll be frank though, the biggest advantage HoloEN holds over NijiEN is a huge one for me, which is their ability to interact with HoloJP. As much as you guys like to point out the Rust spam, Minecraft and other shit, that's where the magic happens as far as I'm concerned. It is something unique to them and is the main reason why I still prefer to invest my time getting to know that branch over other vtubers. Truth be told, I probably wouldn't even bother with EN chuubas altogether were not for that reason, as I still get my fix of variety streams from what I consider to be good fleshstreamers such as Jerma, Tomato or Charborg.
Not sure it will be a satisfying or even reasonable answer to most, but that's the long and the short of why I still prefer to watch HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31746818
Newton’s third law. Hololive doesn’t have organized discord attack group. Since you guys keep attacking it and it somehow bites back now it’s their fault?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31749768
lole the doxsite is holobrony central so what are you on about

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
because im not into the constant sex jokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>31731295
I'm sorry your oshi is so shit that she can't be entertaining by just talking during a stream anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739244
Pretty much why i dropped NijiEN, i know most of you fags will refuse to admit it but the discussion on this board is integral for many others like me. When fujos and literal homos took over the NijiEN general that shit just killed my enjoyment of the group.

[Anonymous No.]

>virtue signalling
>appealing to the woke community
>twitch tier humour

As someone who escaped twitch streamers from all the faggotry, nijien is just twitch streamers with a skin. I rather watch some good indies instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739679
>no one is asking you to watch all of them
>just watch the one you like
>but you're forced to watch all of them anyway if you want to know all the in-jokes and references

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
stop begging

[Anonymous No.]

Guess some things never change NijiEN fans are as bitter as they were in 2021 even though they have some massively successful vtubers. You guys unrionically more pathetic than Holofags they atleast are aware of their retardation

[Anonymous No.]

>HoloEN
>Not a single myth member has a proper 3D debut yet
>Crickets in regards to Council or ID2's 3D models
>Meanwhile all JPs just got all new kimonos and personalized bikinis
Vs
>NijiEN
>Flying nearly 20 EN talents to Japan for Nijifes
>Even bottom feeders like Petra have just confirmed they're going to Japan

Lets face it, Hololive does not give a single ounce of a fuck about the EN girls and they in turn do not give a fuck about Hololive. I don't blame them for not streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>EN
Sorry I'm not a plebeian, I actually enjoy vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>please watch nijiEN
Make a hero themed gen and I will

[Anonymous No.]

>all these page 10 bumps

[Anonymous No.]

>>31730557
>he's just realizing this now
/vt/ needs to make up someone to get mad at please understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
But I do (except for that wolf lady, because I dislike her humor/personality). They are pretty good, but some of them are terrible at interacting with chat. Holostreamers do this way better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31777747
There isn't a wolf lady in NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31739244
HoloEN fans:
>makes up a boogeyman in order to give a reason to shit on niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>31740054
newfags have gentrified this board to the point where the laziest tribalfag bait known to man will get 200 replies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31777882
She sure looks like a wolf to me. Dog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31779203
She's a fox, so a variant of canine at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31773658
sounds like a good reason not to watch nijifes

[Anonymous No.]

>>31774141
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>31749465
>I'll be frank though, the biggest advantage HoloEN holds over NijiEN is a huge one for me, which is their ability to interact with HoloJP.
I feel like HoloEN interacts so rarely with JP that this is hardly a reason to watch them even as a fan of HoloJP myself. Even when they hang out in the same servers to force interactions they're always so damn awkward as most of EN has horrible Japanese. Only Irys or Bae or Kiara manage to have any chemistry with JP, so those are the only EN collabs I watch.

Nijis may only interact with JP's in planned collabs and only a handful of JP's bother to interact with EN but it seems better that way. The interactions feel genuine as everyone is participating voluntarily. Only the JP's willing to learn English or the EN's who are decent at Japanese bother to do these collabs. Yesterday Oliver had his 3D debut and almost the entire stream was just EN/ID/KR cameos. Or in less than an hour Nijisanji is hosting a 24 hour NijiMelody karaoke relay with 48 different vtubers across every branch. I don't think I've ever seen Holos seamlessly blend both JP and EN chuubas like that.

Check it out if you want, Seffyna's stream is first and they'll be raiding a new streamer every 30 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXsrobcgs9E

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Kaela will save Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728846
You say this but the only one in HoloEN that provides any level of quality anymore is Kiara, everyone else got too comfortable with the FOTM game they don't even like followed by superchat reading formula and is phoning it in
Not to mention several of the personalities are very very bland, you wouldn't be able to hold a conversation with a lot of those girls through no fault of your own, that's my biggest issue with HoloEN
NijiEN however has several girls who are talkative and can ramble for hours, such as Pomu, Selen or Elira. The new gen does seem a bit subpar though admittedly I haven't watched a lot as they filtered me early on
Though nobody has the creativity of early Amelia, god I miss her

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Don't care. Try asking for more support from the zhang bugmen you sold out to instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31787008
>another page 10 bump
>racism
abayo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>31787133
There's nothing wrong with shitting on the bugs
Do you feel attacked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31736538
>Who's the real retard I wonder.
Still you, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31787133
someone is really desperate to keep their thread alive the amount of times this has been bumped from page ten now

[Anonymous No.]

>>31741016
>creates a false binary
To do otherwise would require that we pretend vwhoreshow is relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
Is this how desperate Nijiniggers have gotten?

[Anonymous No.]

>p-please watch my poor NijiENs WAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.]

>Watching Nijiniggers
>Being a Nijinigger
roru

[Anonymous No.]

>>31778926
Here is why

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I'd rather eat a finely prepared steak every once in a while (Hololive) as opposed to guzzling down buckets of literal shit constantly (Nijishitty)

[Anonymous No.]

>>31788085
>finely prepared steak
hololive is more like a microwave meal that people think is a fine steak because they are so starved for anything to eat than dog shit would taste delicious

[Anonymous No.]

>>31788483
>dog shit
As a Niji"EN" fan I'm sure you are very familiar with the way dog tastes

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
>please watch NijiEN
I'll save you the time from explaining anymore. The answer is no, just no. I will never do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31788483
True. EN is a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>31746672

[Anonymous No.]

>>31788707
Do people actually think this is some grand conspiracy to make hololive fans look bad? The hololive fans do it to themselves. They could just not respond to the guy and ignore him. If they weren't behaving toxic to begin with there would be no story to make out of it. Literally playing victim when they are the problem as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm the anon that hates nijiniggers the most.
AMA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728263
I'm not Chinese so I'm not part of NijiEN's target audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31789209

[Anonymous No.]

>>31728335
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>31788825
The video is about a bunch of accounts created literally 1-3 days ago that have done nothing but reply to that guy
It's the world's most obvious falseflag and everyone involved is wilfully falling for it so they have an excuse to get mad about something