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31498727 No.31498727 [Reply] [Original]

>gets the chance of 1 in a million to make millions with the minimun by nepotism
>get the nigger model
>mediocre streams
>don't even get your own ship
>don't do ship
>give up and quit
Sana the woman most woman of hololive
seriosly not even calli would do something as retard as this and she fucking hates idols or Irys who don't worth shit and get an uglier model

>> No.31498778

She's not the only one that dislikes streaming. Hololive EN has an incredibly toxic work environment that makes nobody want to show up for work. The JP management is incredibly racist, and makes the EN's lives a living hell. The CEO is a short, ugly little man who sees himself as a god, and enjoys exerting his power over his western employees.

>> No.31498904

>>31498778
is not the CEO is calli, remember she got gura raped

>> No.31498946

>>31498727
She is now very happy with her work creating an arknights character. Maybe her chinese overlords were aware of her work on hololive and made her make a decision

>> No.31499317

>>31498727
Stop being jealous that she go in to fuck your oshi.

>> No.31499382

>>31498727
Wanna try again in english? I have no idea what you just said.

>> No.31499772

>>31498778
Even as bait I'd feel disgusted with myself if I wrote this. How pathetic can you be?

>> No.31499864

>oh no guys my back hurts so bad it’s why I cannot stream
>graduates
>actually I’m fine now, fuck you (but thank you for your superchats hehe)
Sanalites really took hook, line and sinker

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>>31498727
>>31498904

>> No.31500021

>>31498727
Name on Hololive EN millionaire
And don't just refer to playboard, that's before taxes and company takes

>> No.31500089

>>31499864
$5k after all taxes is not much, as an artist she probably earns 50 times more

>> No.31500253

>>31498946
Creating an Arknights character involves drawing two pictures. Can you really make a career out of that?

>> No.31500316

>>31500089
She only got 5k during her graduation stream? Damn people really did not give a shit about her (not that they should tho)

>> No.31500361

>>31498727
shut the fuck up cuckbeat

>> No.31500363

>>31498727
Talents get to design their own models if she didn't like it she could go with another one. This is not gen 1.

>> No.31500386

>>31500316
She made 40k.

>> No.31500418

>>31498727
So breedable...

>> No.31500441

>>31500089
>taxes
Let's just call it theft

>> No.31500460

>>31498727
I still think she didn't expect this to be so much work, didn't want to drop her artist work and after a while of being overwhelmed decided to drop the Hololive part and that's that.

>> No.31500590

>>31500253
Women don't have real careers, even in the world of the career woman meme only men are actually being forced to file tps reports.

>> No.31501155

>>31500386
Jesus fuck I take everything back

How were this many retards willing to throw money at a lazy whore

>> No.31502319

>>31500089
Being a gacha artist is not as profitable as people here say, not by a longshot. One commission from arknights is not worth 6 figures. Barely 5 figures at best.

>> No.31502626

If anything, I hate the fact that council still fawns over her even though she clearly didn't want to be there.

>> No.31502739

>>31502626
Box pushing is how hololive butters its bread. The more you make it look like you're family the more people will be engaged with everyone. It's a cynical way to keep fans interested in Council to keep honoring Sana. >>31502319

>> No.31503015

After watching her rm stream of GG finally getting released I understand why she quit. The amount of gushing and squealing she made over it made it evidently clear she cares way more about her art career.

>> No.31503305

>>31498727
Did you forgot that Hololive is an "idol company", so she's required to sing and take classes if she's required, also to have dance lessons for the occasion of being required to travel to Japan to do a performance with her 3D model (for a festival or her debut of that model)? She's more an artist than an "idol".

>> No.31503341

>>31503015
then the dumb bitch shouldn't have fucking joined. jesus

>> No.31503557

>>31498727
A reference isn’t nepotism.

>> No.31503594

>>31498946
Guess what company gave permissions back and may bring back their collab with holo again?

>> No.31504361

>>31503557
>jp references
Mio
Okayu
Korone
Pekora
Towa
Kanata
Koyori
Iroha

>en references
Sana

>> No.31508882

>>31498904

Where the fuck does this idea come from? It almost seems like the people who post it wish it happened as it's their desire and fetish.

>> No.31508936

>>31498727
OP are you illiterate or a seanig, I need to know, some of that was barely english

>> No.31508961

>>31504361
JP really beats EN in every way.
Has there been any ID nepotism yet?

>> No.31508976

>>31504361
Korone was a package deal with Okayu desu.

>> No.31509027

>>31508961
Pretty sure all the ID girls live in the same neighborhood considering that only like two cities in Indonesia have internet access

>> No.31509176

rent free

>> No.31509211

>>31509027
Miosha you can't just say that...

>> No.31509653

>>31503341
being a holo vtuber sounds amazing though, wouldn't you want to try it? only to then realize it actually sucks and you'd rather do a boring office job than deal with retarded fans

>> No.31513656

>>31509653
If that's a case, she should've done naked dogeza on her graduation to apologize for stealing opportunity from someone who really cared, and donated all her earnings for past year in holo to cover to create a new model for her replacement

>> No.31513951

>>31500363
You might wanna wipe that down after pulling it from so far up your ass, myth has told us EN got no input outside of some final tweaks

>> No.31514077

I liked Sana. Thanks for keeping her memory alive with these bait threads

>> No.31514109

>>31508882
The offcollab where moris sister threw a party at the air bnb. Then she says guras in her room, or could be up to other "shenanigans" implying she's at the party

>> No.31514217

>>31498904
No mori drug addict sister got gura raped

>> No.31514598

>she doesn't deserve to quit because she hasn't worked hard enough yet
Literal slave mentality.

>> No.31514604

>>31509653
She's just as retarded as the viewers if she took a public facing job while being unaware that she was going to be open to unwarranted criticism

>> No.31514764

>>31514598
She should probably have tried working at all.

>> No.31514905

>>31513656
I agree though, someone with more passion and dedication would outshine the crap she gave us.

>> No.31516177

>>31498727
What's worse is before graduation she was obscure for most, her fanbase confined to waiting room hugbox.

Now every future council event is doomed to have some sanacuck poison atmosphere with trying to out-cry everyone else about how much they miss her. Every full gen collab there always would be "How dare they try to have fun without HER here. Do you remember HER? Tell us how sad you are about HER for 9000s time"

>> No.31517546

>>31500460
She made a lot of assets for HoloPro as well, so it wasn't just the streaming.

>> No.31517654

>>31517546
she did not make them, she designed those. Actual time consuming work of modelling sketches into final product was outsourced.

>> No.31517681

Realistically it's Ina's fault and the 'comfy' hugbox mentality she and her fanbase try to create. Sanallites were just a spinoff of Takodachi.

>> No.31517864

>>31499772
>I'd feel disgusted with myself if I wrote this.
>he worships the blue dorito so hard a one-liner throwaway pasta would make him feel disgusted
My God, you people.

captcha: X0GGAY

>> No.31518747

>>31516177
It will fade
3 other holo gens are also missing a member and they don't get brought up often in group collabs.

>> No.31518807

>>31517864
Who's the blue Dorito? I just fucking hate sana

>> No.31520002

>>31513656
yeah because that's how the world works kek
cry more nigger

>> No.31520056

>2views who dont even have enough credentials to fill out resume crying and falseflagging on the catalog thread #1325252

>> No.31520784

>>31498727
Read between the lines. She was obviously asked to resign to save face while Cover declined to renew the contract.

>> No.31521457

>>31501155
she was part of /ourbrand/ though, she deserved it just for existing

>> No.31521511

>>31520784
Cover would 100% have kept her in for the unity of 5

>> No.31521520

>>31520056
The funny part is that it actually isn't 2views making these threads; it's viewers. Or worse: threadreaders.

>> No.31521631

>>31500460
>>31503015
>>31503341
She saw her best friend for over a decade manage to successful juggle being an industry artist and a vtuber. She already loved Hololive a ton before she ever joined and obviously working with your closest friend sounds like a dream. Unfortunately Ina only pulls off being an artist and a vtuber because she draws inhumanly fast for an artist. So she can pump out professional art in like a day. Sana is the traditional artist, meaning slow and picky. She was never going to be able to pull off what Ina did

>> No.31521828

>>31521631
>Ina only pulls off being an artist and a vtuber because she draws inhumanly fast for an artist. So she can pump out professional art in like a day.
No fucking wonder why chinese companies including the ones that did Azur lane wanted to hire Ina. She can pump out gacha whaling material in a good short while.

>> No.31521862

>>31498727
She was just acting according to her model

>> No.31521902

>>31498727
obsessed

>> No.31521960

>>31521828
The reason other artists respect Ina is cause shes a retarded neet shut in who wanted to play as much FF14 as humanly possible so she fucking turbo maxed out all her stats on speed so she could get art done faster and thus be a lazy gross shut-in more.

>> No.31522240

>>31498727
>nigger
Black people are 100 times better more than you SEA monkeys.

>> No.31522342

>>31521960
hot

>> No.31522381

>>31518747
Not in EN.
Reddit still cries over Aloe as if she was their lifetime oshi after streaming for grand total of two hours.

>> No.31522584

>>31520784
god this is why i hate this whore so fucking much, she gets everything she wants and is clear of charges, you name it clout, simp money, more fans followed, more exposure,
getting to say "fuck you" to Cover in revenge, being a pathological liar, robbing the limelight from her genmates. using Korone as her new "creation"

her fans are also a blight to hololive because they will never stop slandering Cover. hope this bitch dies of chink flu.

>> No.31522641

>>31521960
People bring up the Ina speed rrat in relation to Sana but is there any fucking merit to it at all? As far as I can tell Ina is just like any other artist. Slow and lazy.

>> No.31522690

>>31522641
watch any drawing stream, then compare the output to other art streamers

>> No.31522787

sana is the worst thing to ever happen to the earth.

>> No.31523165

>>31522787
Your shitty english is a bigger crime samefaggot
Maybe seek some reps

>> No.31524492

>>31523165
My first comment and in perfect english. Better luck next time schizo ESL friend.

>> No.31524735

>>31521631
>She already loved Hololive a ton
shut the fuck up, no she didn't. she only doodled vtuber fanart for ina/her audtion. She doesn't even like most of the gachas she plays. she's just attracted to shiny and cute designs, sana is a hollow fucking husk

>> No.31525029

>>31498727
pandering to undesirable men was too much of a chore and not worth the money

>> No.31525099

>>31498727
>nigger model
i agree on the other points but this was fucking retarded on management's end. you just know they were trying to get a poc for the role before even looking at candidates.

>> No.31525107

>>31524735
She got famous drawing a billion Pokemon images. Shes a well documented MASSIVE Fatefag. She's literally gone to multiple anime conventions cosplaying FGO characters and signing FGO shit. She absolutely loves the shit she draws. Sana has never been good at hiding what she likes and doesn't like.

>> No.31525297

>>31514217
>>31514109
>gura went to a party
>therefore she was raped
You schizos need serious mental help.

>> No.31525644

>>31524492
Really convenient for you to fix your capitalization and grammar too eh?
Feel a little called out?

>> No.31525982

>>31502319
>5 figures for one commission
Uh, I dunno that sounds pretty good to me...

>> No.31527655

>>31525297
He's right, you know

It was consensual and she initiated it

>> No.31531663

>>31498778
>ololive EN has an incredibly toxic work environment that makes nobody want to show up for work.
Receipts?

>> No.31532195

>>31525099
Always blame Omega. To this day, he still has not ever apologized for any wrongdoings.

>> No.31537577

>>31499772
Why? Because anything of that comment is unbelievable to you?

>> No.31537661

Hololive was her side job, her Main job payed way too much as to dedicate herself to be a hololive girl, when management asked her to please stream more or you'll have to go then she took the best financial decision.
Also she works for chink gachas so.... yeah.

>> No.31537703

>>31501155
Pretty sure she worked/works more than the average holoEN, she just had a real job and no time for this which was her own fault in accepting though of course

>> No.31537760

>>31531663
The guy who made that post is a fag but it's true that they aren't allowed to stream without a manager babying them at all hours of the day. The reason nobody in holoen fucking streams is because a Japanese manager has to be awake for them

>> No.31538373

>>31537703
Mori has her music and an active rm, Ina has the same second job and appears to have much more output in it, Mumei's in school.
The rest maybe, though some are definitely close.
As I'd said before, my take is take is that Back Hort was real enough that doing both jobs was a bit much and she chose to keep the gacha gigs over Hololive.

>> No.31538633

>>31538373 (Me)
One of these days I'll start proofreading my posts but that day is not today.

>> No.31538669

>>31538373
Yeah of course, I just don’t see that as being lazy when you work the same or more amount of time. You just shouldn’t take a job you have no time for

>> No.31538682

>>31502319
Gacha artists actually make a ridiculous amount, you just trade in part of your lifespan for it due to deadlines.

>> No.31538694

I am pretty skeptical she quit. What's the point of straight up burning that bridge forever? She had fans who were happy with her streaming schedule, sparse as it was, and it was a good source of consistent income. Choosing to graduate appears to benefit her absolutely nothing at all - unless of course, Cover was trying to hold her to some commitments.

Even in Cover's super-vague corpo-speak announcement, they specifically highlighted how they discussed Sana's streaming activities with her. Obviously, they weren't happy - and fair enough, because they had every right to be.

The only mitigating factor is that I don't think Cover really has anything to gain by graduating Sana either, unless she was somehow costing them more money than she was earning.

I think the most likely explanation is that Sana was pressured to quit, but I think either way an error in judgement was involved.

>> No.31538766

>>31509027
Could be like nijisanji does, you have to live very close or in Jakarta.

>> No.31538808

>>31538694
she cost them money by looking like complete shit and her complacency looked horrible to the other members that aren't retarded lazy fucknuts.

>> No.31538909

>>31538694
They could have requested a bare minimum of things and she didn't meet that, or was unwilling to.

>> No.31539224

>>31538694
This rrat always has to contend with the existence of people like Ayame, and granted she was nowhere near as lucrative as Ayame but their base salary would have to be pretty damn high for Cover to be taking a loss on Sana.
It's a little more plausible if you accept the idea that back issues were going to prevent her from participating in concerts, 3D lives (just as EN are FINALLY getting them) and basically anything related to the idol side at all. Still conflicts with Yagoo's long history of saviorfagging, but combined they're little more believable.

>> No.31539387

>>31538909

I think this is the most likely explanation, but cutting off a revenue stream and forever impacting your company's image and casting a pall over all of Council's future activities to get rid of a streamer who wasn't even really doing that poorly seems like a bad business decision.

I guess we'll see what happens to Ayame.

>> No.31539439

>>31539224
AYAME
STILL
DOES
CORPO
STUFF. Whenever she streams she gets showered in money like it's an event. Sana didn't do ANYTHING and was 100% leech. Also Ayame helped fucking BUILD hololive. the fact you people continue to compare them like they're even SLIGHTLY similar is so fucking mindbreakingly stupid. kill yourself seriously. If you try to compare these two just kill yourselves or AT LEAST sterilize yourself.

>> No.31539478

>>31500386
Is that before or after the pay split between cover and YouTube?

>> No.31539576

>>31498727
it's so fucking obvious the people that make these threads have miserable jobs

>> No.31539883

>>31539439
Control your ADHD long enough to read the second half, then take your blood pressure meds or you won't get a chance to kill yourself before your anger issues do.

>> No.31540108

>>31539387
Probably nothing.
Ayame was part of Hololive before it really took and the over management arc began, odds are her contract is different, plus people like her enough to shower her with money whenever she does come back

>> No.31540183

>>31513951
>fatefag
>pako
>nigger
she got what she wanted.

>> No.31540308

>>31517546
>a lot

>> No.31540367
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>People will prop up someone like Sana purely to lash out at those 2 views that live rent free in their heads.
Really is all about that branding eh?

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>>31498727
Dude don't you know about back hort? it horted so bad that she couldn't stream more than 15 minutes a day. tho she actually could streams multiple hours a day in her RM account... and also didn't seem to be a problem during the last week of streaming... But trust me! back hort so bad!

>> No.31540467

>>31537661
>when management asked her to please stream more or you'll have to go
source?

>> No.31540491

>>31522641
Ina draws good quality stuff stupidly fast, she does suffer from same face syndrome but makes up for it in other areas.

>> No.31540567

>fubuki grabbing her normalfag college buddy is fine
>ina grabbing her professional artist colleague is corruption

>> No.31540695

>>31540567
it would've been fine if sana wasn't a lead weight lazy piece of shit that hates streaming

>> No.31540728

>>31498727
Based ESL chama

>> No.31540783

>>31540567
Fbk's "normalfag" college buddy is still with the company and doing great

Ina's artist friend left before even a full year and performed terribly

I think Sana is/was a nice girl her "Celeste" playthrough was great but you cannot compare her as a friend hire compared to anything Fubuki has brought in.

>> No.31540841

>>31540567
>JP nepotism
I know this person and trust them to deliver knowing it will reflect on me and will have to take personal responsibility
>NA nepotism
I like this person a lot and hey if I can do it anyone can do it, I'm too polite to make a judgement call and labor laws mean I'm not responsible, teehee

>> No.31540921

>>31537661
Then why apply. Ok sure your friend recommends you because she clearly thinks you’d be a good fit but you’re no doubt aware of what Hololive expects of you. Content creation and all that. On top of your art career. Just feels like such a waste of time. Makes me wonder about the other auditions who didn’t make the make the cut.

>> No.31540931

>>31540841
>labor laws mean I'm not responsible, teehee
Hololive streamers are contractors

>> No.31541037

why do you care she graduated?
>but someone else
yeah someone else could've also been Aloe, Kaoru, Kira, Hitomi Chris, Suzaku who streamed less than she did and also fucked off but you dont see nips crying everyday for the return of any of them
>inb4 Aloe
Mentally ill EOPs pretending she's some sort of martyr, not japs

>> No.31541165

>>31540931
More of a mentality thing, they grow up around legal protections.

>> No.31541294

>>31525107
Pokémon and FGO, what do they have in common? The lore is shallow as fuck.
>b-but FGO has in game story events!!
Sana plays the JP FGO server, what makes you thinks she reads the story when she can barely read kanji in a fucking Kirby game with Watame? She loves the thrill of gacha pulls and likes pretty things. That’s it. To imply she has deeper thought is insanity

>> No.31541308

>>31498727
>>31498778
>>31498904
Just because you CAN say whatever you want doesn't mean you should.

>> No.31541378

>>31541294
i could say you dont have any thoughts beyond being a nigger who engages in "slander" on a chinese recipe forum like a white housewife on TMZ and are also an immensely shallow human being, but i'd just be replied to with your typical post-2016 tourist buzzwords like "seethe" etc

>> No.31541510

>>31509027
Correct, they have to be somewhat well off with having electricity and a working computer.

>> No.31541666

>>31541294
>FGO lore is shallow as shit
>Its total word count mogs the holy fuck out of like every single other gacha period
>Nasu autism meant the story was going to be as deep and complex as humanly possible
>If Nasu was allowed to write monologues it'd probably already be bigger than FSN in size now
Cmon now. You can say a lot of things about FGO but it having shallow or non-existent lore/story is simply not one of them.

>> No.31541743

>>31509027
most of them do live in Jakarta because they just go over each others homes like once a week

>> No.31541793

>>31538682
>Gacha artists actually make a ridiculous amount
You pull that out of your ass? Japanese gacha artists are known to pay piss poor, at most you’ll get 50,000円 but the average is 15,000円. CHINESE gacha on the other hand have been known to be very generous and I’ve seen payments from 100,000-1,000,000円. Unless you’re being commissioned monthly for art from the Chinese company, this shit is not sustainable.

>> No.31541899

>>31541793
And Sana isn't even a chinese or japanese native. So you just know shes getting absolutely raw dogged on her payments.

>> No.31542123

>>31541378
>>31541666
Conveniently ignores how Sana can’t Japanese and yet throws thousands for the thrill of rolling. Here’s another example, her genshit stream she spent hundreds on rolls but admitted she did not progress in the story at all.

>> No.31542244

>>31542123
Sure Sana likes cute shit and this is well documented. Shes been like that forever. Its why she drew so much pokemon starting out. Shes also still a massive fate fag and theres countless years worth of proof to show it.

>> No.31542725

>>31541743
And most of JP lives in Tokyo, maybe they should've hired exclusively out of NYC or LA for HoloEN.

That's not even sarcasm, they'd have regular off collabs and be able to get everyone into a studio if they did that.

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SANA THE WOMAN MOST WOMAN OF HOLOLIVE

>> No.31543777

>>31499864
That's not accurate at all, more like she doesn't want people feeling bad for her and asking her if she is healthy over and over again. She very much injured her back, she was in a car accident.

>> No.31543842

>>31543777
Yeah anon didn't realize Sana was retarded concernfags blowing up her twitter and spamming every tweet with shit like "Sanaaaaaaaaaaa your back!!!!!!!!!!" and other stupid shit

>> No.31543867

>>31500021
The real answer is none, they are all well in the top 1% income bracket, but none are millionaires.

>> No.31543958

>>31500021
Kiara has said on stream that she qualifies for the rich people Visa to go to Japan and that's 250k minimum.
Also Noel is 100% a millionare, her RM makes a metric fuck ton of money. Bitch owns 2 houses and if you know how japan real estate is, you know she's loaded.

>> No.31544008

>>31541899
>get ass-raped by Asians on payments
>spend the little money you get back on the same gacha you drew for, like an addict sucking his dealer's cock for a fix
Gachapigs are truly subhuman.

>>31542725
The problem is cultural, not just geographical. If you hired a bunch of libart majors out of NYC they'd be every bit as entitled and lazy, it would just be way more glaring since distance wouldn't be an excuse. When people want to spend time together, they find a way to do so even if it's just talking over the internet. When someone cares for their audience, they find a way to make content for them even if they can't do traditional multi-hour streams.

Funny enough, the two people from EN who bothered to do the latter are Mori and Kiara, both of whom /vt/ loves to hate. Truly this place has perennially wrong opinions on literally everything.

>> No.31544043

>>31498727
Why you got to be racist?

>> No.31544093

>>31498727
next time can you post in english please ?
Fucking sea monkeys i swear

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>>31544008
>is a cuckbeat
yeah that explains it

>> No.31544267

>>31503015
GG?

>> No.31544456

>>31544008
>Taking some retarded at rrat face value
Rumao
Always get a chuckle at discussions on how vtubers make, most of them do this for a living, can afford to travel plenty of times(even some of the lower ranked nijis are making a ton) but still some yells "BUT TAXES AND YOUTUBES CUT", yea and they still make quite a lot of money.

https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw
This is the closest we have to learning how much money a vtuber makes, and its not from superchats.

>> No.31544514

>>31513656
stop being a faggot dude.

>> No.31544887

>>31520784
she pulled in money and had more views that a lot of other holo pros so no, that's not it.

>> No.31546171

>>31537760
That's not proofs that's another claim. Are you sure you know how this works?

>> No.31546335

>>31498727
She's already dead anon, it's time to forget about her and move on.

>> No.31546353

>>31540422
She never said she couldn't stream for more than 15 mins, she said a few hours. Also it was not simply streaming, it was sitting in front of a computer, which she also has to do for drawing. So yeah, her back was injured, stop pretending it wasn't.

>> No.31546719

>>31543842
I understand the level of autism among some on here but it really is annoying how many can't read between the lines. Normal people do not like pity parties. It's like asking a friend with cancer "how's your cancer going" everyday when they want to talk about anything else.

>> No.31546863

>>31498727
>gets the chance of 1 in a million to make millions with the minimun by nepotism
yup
>get the nigger model
Juniper, IRyS, and other vtubers with actual charm have shown models don't cement your career
>mediocre streams
By her own choice mind you, Space themed streams were pretty cool for all 3 times they happened
>don't even get your own ship
You don't ask for them, you make them. TakaMori and BaeRyS along with Mumeii were all made
>don't do ship
Pretty sure Ina even nudged Sana to try something between them too and she preferred to "dead doggo, my backo"
>give up and quit
She schizo-dreamed Ark-Knights and Mihoyo might stop working with her if she dared to keep existing with Cover

>> No.31547264

>>31546863
>Pretty sure Ina even nudged Sana to try something between them too and she preferred to "dead doggo, my backo"
the difference between those two things is literally like 5-6 months so no she wasn't "my back hurts" back in september

>> No.31548948

>>31544456
"BUT MUH TAXES" has always been a bafflingly stupid point to bring up. Nobody fucking talks about taxes when discussing income because everyone pays them. Well, almost everyone.
If someone makes $100,000 before taxes we say they make six figures. When people compare salaries they use the pre-tax figure. People bringing up taxes when talking about how VTuber income compares to other jobs just makes it obvious that they've never actually had a job.

>> No.31549400

>>31537760
>>31546171
Occasionally a Holo has an idea and tries to get hold of their manager during a stream but can't reach them, so yeah no that's bullshit. Maybe there's some period after debut where they do this to avoid early yabs but it's absolutely not the norm.

>> No.31549909

>>31548948
>People bringing up taxes when talking about how VTuber income compares to other jobs just makes it obvious that they've never actually had a job.
well yeah, the numberniggers are all thirdworlders, underage, or both

>> No.31553297

>>31543777
The car accident was years before her being a vtuber. Sanalites coping so hard they’re making up reasons for her not streaming. It’s no wonder why she tweeted out, you fags won’t stop coddling her and she hates it

>> No.31553634

>>31548948
It is relevant in a few cases like Americans living abroad still have to pay tax to the US because LMAO

>> No.31553694

>>31553634
not if they get a proper accountant
>>31553297
she should be happy she's getting coddled instead of the exact opposite considering the shit she pulled

>> No.31554204

>Ina only pulls off being an artist and a vtuber because she draws inhumanly fast for an artist.

You dont know shit about artists if you think that's the norm for a pro artist. Ina isnt the exception, its just that Sana cant draw or chose not to draw as fast as what is the norm, its Sana being lazy or shit thats the issue and artists by default are lazy as fuck, constantly talking about burnout and whatever dumb shit excuse. The good ones know to treat it like a job and will put out quality shit fast just like Ina.

>> No.31554241

>>31553694
you only have so many tax credits before they tell you to hand over some money.

>> No.31554292

>>31554204
just look at mangakas lmao. Imagine if each of them needed a month for like a single picture. rest in shit sana you dumb cunt.

>> No.31555649

>>31554204
I have no idea how fast Sana draws because she never did any serious art on stream, though that isn't exactly a point in her favor.

Sadly even Ina is burning out and hasn't done a non-sponsored art stream in over three months, and she herself mentioned burnout in several drawing streams before that. In her case though, her rm has been illustrating an entire light novel series on top of the occasional gacha promo. If Sana's got anything like that going on I haven't heard of it.

>> No.31557307

>>31554204
I swear none of you fuckers watch her streams at all. She purposely chose not to draw because vtubing was her “big chance” to show the world she was more than just an artist. One year later, she’s decided she is “just an artist” and quit. I felt awful for her, until she decided to be a cunt to her fans after graduation.

My rrat? Ina and cover helped her get the artist and design she wanted, she thought she would be loved off the bat. Kiara tried to cheer her up but somehow Sana said Mori offered more support. She then numberfagged too hard and got too depressed to stream. “They didn’t like me from the start, so why try”

>> No.31558100

>>31557307
>“They didn’t like me from the start, so why try”
Sad thing is that even if she was permanently the least popular EN holo she would still be making significantly more money than she does as an artist. Chinks don't pay THAT well. But I guess she's free to make her own mistakes in life as a perfectly happy and healthy human being.

>> No.31558411

>>31558100
t. passionless retard who exists to pay his bills

>> No.31558415

>>31558100
Yeah, most of the early subs die off anyway and Towa proved that an early setback isn't a death sentence. She definitely still had a good shot at making a career out of it but evidently she saw illustration as more of a long-term goal.

>> No.31558792

>>31498904
gura deserves it, i hope she kills herself as a result

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