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New gen of Nijisanji KR is debuting today.

Starting in about 10 minutes, Seffyna:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dnzMQHpKIg

After that, Ban Hada:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWebu2PRbk

And finally, Song Mia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukp0MbEsJU

>> No.3096702

>>3096635
Ban has been speaking english on twitter. Hopefully it isn't a fluke.

>> No.3096802

>>3096635
Bootleg Marine looks so adorable!

>> No.3096858

Lookingat their thumbs, seems like ban will be eop focused and the other two kr/jp focused. Hope that I like ban, it would be cool if she spoke english in that branch kek

>> No.3096891

I don't care about koreans

>> No.3096907

lets gooooooooo eop

>> No.3097007

>>3096635
I do hate nijinigger but looking at their number is really hurting me, reminds me of my indie who retired months ago.
I will at least give them a like.

>> No.3097030

>>3096635
i hate kpop

>> No.3097107

>people more interested in costumes than vtubers
Sad

>> No.3097147

Blue one looks cool. If Niji EN is actually real maybe she can interact with them if she speaks English.

>> No.3097153

I need to know their personal opinions about the Japanese Empire.

>> No.3097246

>>3097153
ask her on stream then

>> No.3097306

>>3096635
Pirate is mad cute. Please somehow collab with Marine. PIRATE LOVE! AHOY LOVE!
>>3097030
I like KPOP but westerners that flooded in after BTS got big in the US need to fuck off.

>> No.3097460

>>3097107
well yeah, nobody cares about nijisanji other than the 10 other boomers left who remember them and apexfags

>> No.3097542

Seffyna did pretty well. Cute voice too.

>> No.3097583

Pirate is starting!

>> No.3097610

Her english is so cute

>> No.3097612

>>3097460
I think it has more to do with them being KR. Nobody cared that much about them until Bora's rise with the APEX boom. Pirate is cute so I hope she does alright, even if it has to be through high skill in a game+being a cute anime girl. /vt/ has had Himawari threads for her MGR playthrough and surprisingly a thread for one of their androgynous dudes that isn't Ryushen. Based on threads, I doubt anyone here actually watches Mito. There are some fujos here who watch ChroNoir tho.

>> No.3097641

She lives in Australia! Another Aussie!

>> No.3097643

Pirate appears to be JP/EN/KR trilingual

And it feels like she's spoken more english and japanese than actual korean...

>> No.3097648

Pirate sounds cute. Going by her English, it's safe to say she's the most fluent speaker of the branch although Siu is ridiculously cute when she speaks English

>> No.3097656

>Korean Aussie
Based or cringe?

>> No.3097664

>>3097656
cunt

>> No.3097677

Voice and looks are cute. I'll watch the archive later since there's a sankisei collab.
>>3097643
She mixed some Korean in with her Japanese.
>>3097641
English is better than Haato.

>> No.3097678

>>3097648
Hari's English is really good too. Hope they do an English collab one day.

>> No.3097681

She has the same accent as Ina.

>> No.3097698

>>3097656
Too early to judge, we'll have to see based on her streams. Her design's kinda musketeer-vibe to me rather than pirate tho.

>> No.3097702

Yea but do they recognize the unlawful military occupation of takeshima?

>> No.3097717

>>3097681
Ina's a KR too

>> No.3097732

POGGERS!!!!!!!!

>> No.3097738

>>3096635
I want to know their opinion on being modern comfort women for the nips.

>> No.3097742

APEX, Valorant and League? ESPORTS! I doubt she's going to be that good in any of these games. Also, POG.

>> No.3097747

>I like saying pog

Oh no... she's retarded

>> No.3097754

>pog
Dropped

>> No.3097775

Literally just a generic zoomer with a pirate avatar, I'm in

>> No.3097777

>>3096635
I like Song's design

>> No.3097785

>>3097717
What are you talking about? She's a tentacle priestess from another world

>> No.3097790

>Apex
>League
>Valorant
Oh well, I thought I found a good one for a moment.

>> No.3097808

She referred to Among Us as a "mafia game" so she really must have spent most of her life in australia. As far as I'm aware, most of asia calls them werewolf games.

>> No.3097814

>>3096635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqabmlcQiho

>> No.3097830

>>3097808
Koreans call it mafia.

>> No.3097833

>kaizocrew

>> No.3097837

Pirate reminds me of ID2 debuts with all of them having to juggle 3 languages through the whole thing. I wonder which will be language she defaults to. I'm betting on either japanese or english

>> No.3097850

>>3096635
AHHHHH IM SAVIORFAGGING HRREERRGGGHHH

Ban has a really nice voice though

>> No.3097855

>>3097747
>>3097754
I'm not surprised since KRs use twitch. JPs do too but not as much.
>>3097790
League because KR. APEX and Valorant I assume is to collab with Bora and JPs.

>> No.3097856

>>3097837
She's kind of hesitant with her japanese, so it's likely her weakest language.

>> No.3097874

>>3097850
Ban sounds cuter/better in Korean and Japanese. Sounds too much like a real person in English.

>> No.3097875

>>3097837
Korean obviously. I mean Hari and Yuya speak the same languages but still use Korean the most.

>> No.3097898

>>3097738
more like she's going humiliate the japanese again like Bora by being better in competitive games

>> No.3097919

Sounds very Australian. Way more than say, Haachama.

>> No.3097927

has a single one of them said they play starcraft yet?

>> No.3097967

>Hoshikawa
>Hana

Holy fuck this pirate likes bitches

>> No.3097977

Very cute. please let one of them play Starcraft

>> No.3097979

>>3097919
Haachama’s character voice purposely screws with her accent. Like >>3097874
said, her English is in her real voice.

>> No.3097983

>>3097919
she definitely lived there more than 2-3 years

>> No.3097988

allowed to collab with everyone, guess it really is down to the individual to get involved

>> No.3097996

>>3097967
BASED

>> No.3098082

I missed Seffyna debut. Would you recommend her?

>> No.3098123

Something tells me Hada is going to be the most popular girl this gen

>> No.3098155 [DELETED] 

>>3098123
>pikamee
>hana
>coco
what gave it away?

>> No.3098182

>>3098123
Is NijiKR really that weak? She didn't even hit 1k. Can a couple hundred EOPs really push her to the top?

>> No.3098217

Mia is already spilling spaghetti all over the place. oh no

>> No.3098226

>>3098182
Bora is the only one to break 1k regularly.

>> No.3098253

>nigga
WHAT

>> No.3098275

>>3098226
The others all seem to be able to speak japanese. Wouldn't JOP pandering be more effective than EOPs?

>> No.3098283

>>3098123
she's already pulled out ahead from the other two on twitter and YT
>>3098182
most of the KRs average 40-130 viewers a stream. that's pretty typical for vtuber channels that size

>> No.3098289

>>3098182
What EOPs? The nijis jp barely have them, asking for them to push a side brach would be a miracle, heck only 30 posters from here bothered to check the debuts

>> No.3098305

>>3098275
Guess we will find out when people find out about her english.

>> No.3098324

>>3098305
Also, being an aussie kind of puts her in a shit timezone for EOP pandering too

>> No.3098326

>>3098275
>Wouldn't JOP pandering be more effective than EOPs?
Japan won't watch Koreans, especially ones that will speak 3 languages instead of simply watching any japanese liver

>> No.3098338

this one sounds so nervous

>> No.3098373

>>3098182
There's only 40 foreign Nijisanji fans in the world

>> No.3098376

>>3098338
I think she's about to die

>> No.3098383

>>3097919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzcUz3H0lpg

>> No.3098393

>>3098326
Bora can break 10k during tournaments with her JOP pandering.

>> No.3098424

>>3098338
I wonder if its just the character or not? It's cute.

>> No.3098433

>>3098289
30 from here, 48 from the /jp/ nijisanji thread, and probably a hundred from reddit, so like I said, a couple hundred

>> No.3098437

>>3098393
Bora is the exception because she's actually great at Apex.

>> No.3098438

I think Mia will be a pass for me. The other two were a lot more confident and also the design doesn't do anything for me personally

>> No.3098454

>>3098424
Bit of both

>> No.3098464

>>3098373
There's 72 unique posters in the dedicated nijisanji thread at this moment

>> No.3098465

i thought that was a penis

>> No.3098466

>>3098438
its fun seeing them become more confident too, but i get what you mean

>> No.3098516

She talking about studying Korean? Is she Japanese like Ray?

>> No.3098527

>>3098123
Even without knowing about her ability to speak in EN, you can already tell just by her design that she would be bigger than the other two.
>>3097927
>>3097977
Its 2021 anons.
>>3098226
And thats due to being a girl who's good at APEX, which is currently popular in Japan. Her ability to speak both KR and JP helps out in CR Cup too since she can team up and help translate for CR's members who can't speak JP well.
>>3098275
It depends. Bora panders to JPs because muh APEX. I don't think APEX/Valorant/League would draw in EOPs much and Among Us would need at least one really popular member for people to care about the collab.
>>3098289
>heck only 30 posters
And I only tuned in abit live because of the word wolf collab. I'll watch some of the blue pirate's streams in the future to see how things go.

>> No.3098555

Why do they only get a half hour anyway? I thought debuts were supposed to be an hour

>> No.3098557

>>3098437
Just get the rest of the girls to be as good as Bora in APEX. Then we can do NijiKR girls vs VSPO girls.

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3098561

>>3096635
How come there arent more vtubers with this 16/17 Century navy design? Looks great.

>> No.3098587

>>3098527
>Even without knowing about her ability to speak in EN, you can already tell just by her design that she would be bigger than the other two.

Really? I like the other two more

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3098608

>>3098253
kek

>> No.3098633

So looking at these KR numbers, do you guys think the NijiENs will break 1k for their debuts?

>> No.3098661

>Seffyna
JP/KR pandering
>Hada
EN/KR pandering
>Mia
JP/KR pandering

These are the final results, it's what you'd expect from a NijiKR branch. If the pirate plays her cards well she could get a bigger niche fanbase for her

>> No.3098669

When the blue one was talking about who she likes in Nijisanji JP she said she was allowed to collab with anyone. So there's no management restrictions on international branch collabs?

>> No.3098675

>>3098527
IT"S STILL BEING PLAYED! IF I WAS UNREASONABLE I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR WC3

>> No.3098676

>>3098633
NijiEN is probably what ichikara needs for the west to kind of break into Niji.

There's a shit load of kaigai people who watch livers like kanae, kuzuha and shit but they aren't really as vocal as the holo viewers.

EN should give it the push they need to be more visible.

>> No.3098704

>>3096635
>>3098633
Niji should've hired the real Marine and FLOW and shill the fuck out of em

>> No.3098752

>>3098633
Realistically, it will depend on Ichikara's ability to market their NijiEN. I don't think the usual posting about their debut on twitter would do any wonders. They need to go all out on the marketing campaign since Hololive and Vshoujo already captured the majority of the EOP market and I think it already reached its saturation.

>> No.3098779

>>3098633
Probably. KR isn't EN. Vtuber reddit didn't even have a thread for the KRs. Nijisanji had a reminder thread but it doesn't even have an image in the OP. You gotta at least put an image to try and get some attention when people scroll bruh.

>> No.3098805

>>3098555
1 hour debuts are longer than necessary, a lot of vtubers just end up having to fill time with doing random noises or something cringe they end up regretting later

>> No.3098811 [DELETED] 

>>3098633
meanwhile... 100% gook fans btw

>> No.3098830

>>3098811
I think you forgot something anonymous

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>>3098633
meanwhile...

>> No.3098857

Are there any popular vtubers in korea?

>> No.3098873

>>3098587
Nah, for me the pirate looks really cute compared to the other two. Mia kinda gives me a webtoon vibe with her design tho.
>>3098676
You can find EN ChroNoir fujos on twitter. They sometimes translate stuff too.

>> No.3098876

>>3098633
I bet on 5k minimum. They will be lucky if they get main branch debut numbers

>> No.3098898

>>3098669
That has always been the case for Niji, you can do whatever you want as long as you don't spark a scandal

>> No.3098908

>>3098857
bora

>> No.3098943

>>3098857
I don't think that moon blue haired dude who played with FBK and Matsuri counts. Other than him, Bora I guess. But I'm limited in my knowledge of KR vtubers.

>> No.3098944
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3098944

>>3098633
right pic this time. theres also 'virtual human' gooks are crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMg8-Ku3JI

>> No.3099010

Rate the debuts

>> No.3099100

>>3099010
Didn't catch/10
POG/10
Guksu/10

>> No.3099264

They're also collabing in 5 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LfYoBMeuo

>> No.3099268

>>3098669
I didn't watch the debut yet but she probably meant it as in she won't be limited by language since she can speak both Japanese and English at conversational levels.

>> No.3099303

>>3099010
Ban>Mia>Seffyna

>> No.3099379

>>3099268
She said "collab wise I'm told that, they, I'm able to collab with any... everyone"

>> No.3099400

>>3099010
Seffyna a cute/10
Aussie zoomer is best girl/10
Spilling spaghetti/10

>> No.3099469

>>3099264
>Gang beasts in korean

Well at least it should be good to test their chemistry

>> No.3099531

>>3098669
There hasn’t been for a long time.
It’s just that the JP livers aren’t too interested in the international branches sometimes.

>> No.3099612

>>3099469
Gang Beasts is always a fun time, tho 4 instead of 3 would be ideal.
>>3099531
JPs aren't obligated to play with international branches.

>> No.3099831

>>3099379
Ah ok, yeah that's normal. She might not have known if she needed management permissions to do international branch collabs or something. You just don't see them happen super often because of language barriers.

>> No.3100416

>>3098669
For JP I know there's a small quota of solo streams you have to do before you can collab with the rest of the branch.

For KR there is a running tradition where you collab with your genmates right after the debut stream.

>> No.3106894

>>3098752
that's an issue how Ichikara has always treated overseas branches. whereas Hololive JP hyped up HoloEN, talking about them on stream, retweeting their announcement and held off from streaming over their debuts Nijisanji has never given a fuck because JP is the star of the show and there's no obligation to bend over to help anyone but yourself. I honestly don't expect them to do any different for NijiEN

>> No.3107062

>>3106894
“there's no obligation” doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Their management style is laissez faire, sure, but just today we got a stream where one nijisanji vtuber helped another gain over 10000 subscribers in the span of 3 hours.

>> No.3107265

I have a soft spot for Ban's voice, will keep an eye out for her streams to see how she does.

>> No.3107462

>>3107062
It was more like tricking him into a endurance stream without his consent

>> No.3111015

>>3098857
A ton of streamers in Korea by default are pngtubers since they don't want to facecam.
So from a Korean perspective a Korean vtuber is not really different from the rest of the mainstream Korean streamers, other than the fact that they're part of a Japanese company.

>> No.3111075

>>3097967
Hoshikawa, Gundo, and Hana.
Ban is confirmed giga-stacy. Exclusively plays mainstream games.
I can see the ABG vibe already from here.

>> No.3112136

That australian accent is totally poggers though

>> No.3112249

>>3106894
Since when holojp hyped holoen?? The own vtubers doing that is completely different than cover. cover never marketed holoen before debut, they just released the info on reddit and social media and that was it.

>> No.3112283

>>3098527
I don't think its entirely down to being a girl who is good at apex. If she had just stuck to KR and not gone out and got collabs with just about everyone who matters in JP apex streaming it probably wouldn't have counted for too much.

>> No.3112552

>>3098527
The most popular KR are the ones speaking mostly Japanese.

>> No.3124105

>>3112249
People shitting on Ichikara's weak promotion but don't realize that Cover was also doing the bare minimum at promoting talents. All promotion and hype on Holo side are almost completely by fans

>> No.3124213

>>3124105
Any source on this?

>> No.3124918

>>3097742
Typical korean fav game

>> No.3125189

>>3098669
Not at all. When new KR debuted there is even some ID collab with VR Link liver. To whose don't know VR Link, they kinda CN indies with nijisanji application system (also not under niji management). In short branch collab with branch of another branch

>> No.3125295

>>3106894
In early days when they open ID market they promote a lot tho. I think some livers like sister claire make short vid on twitter about that

>> No.3125516

>>3106894
Why would they care? Its just another batch to try and grab some of the cash that might be dropped. Why waste the effort, time and money when they could do none of that and still get money. Nijisanji has over 80+ and the KR branch is just another drop in the bucket. If they’re successful, then good. If they’re not, who cares since Ichikara will still be getting money and if they decide to cute the loose branch then it’ll be all the more easier.

>> No.3125789

>>3125516
This whole they don't care about them if they fall flat thing really doesn't hold up when consider they recently gave two of the worst performing KR members completely new models at like sub 10k subs.

>> No.3125895

>>3096635
Song Mia looks naked in her thumbnail so I'll probably be following her.

>> No.3125947

>>3096635
3 IDs died for this

>> No.3126639

>>3125895
The pirate says poggers and speaks aussie english

>> No.3126661

>>3125947
Next ID gen cancelled?

>> No.3126780

>>3125947
ID is Indonesia, retard.

>> No.3126879

>>3096635
>가 공개된 2월 이후에는 니지산지 본토의 팬들이 유입되면서 니지산지 KR 멤버들의 일본어 사용 비중이 훨씬 높아졌다.
>https://namu.wiki/w/%EB%8B%88%EC%A7%80%EC%82%B0%EC%A7%80%20KR
second rate JP branch kek

>> No.3127272 [DELETED] 

>>3098857
bora, yuya and niji kr. They are the only agency there anyway, others are small.

>> No.3127286

>>3112249
Oh but Cover did have help in marketing HoloEN without having to spend a dime. Before HoloEN debut, hololive already penetrated into the western market. This is all thanks to the Chinks and Kiryuu Coco. Through collaboration such as Azure lane and chinks clippers, English speakers became aware of Hololive as brand and this only favour the YouTube algorithm that lead to recommendations of Korone' Ekum bukum, Fubuki's Scatman, and Matsuri's band aid story. Next is Coco herself, she reached out to the weebs and anitubers community though her meme reviews and Asacoco. However, when the mainstream media picked up the Taiwan controversy, that is when HoloEN and Hololive popularity truly exploded in the west.

Ichikara will not have the same fortune on it side. I've seen them trying to replicate hololive success but they entered the western market rather too late as it reaching the point of saturation. This why I said that Ichikara will have to go all out with its marketing campaign.

>> No.3127293 [DELETED] 

>>3124213
Remember the marketing for ID2? Yeah, me neither. They don't do marketing in debuts outside of announcing on social media.

>> No.3127312

Korean? What kind of microtransactions will be included in their streams, and can I f2p grind to access all of their content?

>> No.3127354

>>3127286
They could always have their own dragon girl say the T-word. That’ll definitely be fun and helpful.

>> No.3127423

>>3127293
They don't need to when Hololive already cemented itself as a solid brand in the west.

>> No.3127455

>>3126661
Not likely. If ichikara want to cut on of their branch most likely they'll cut KR first. ID doing relatively good in term of donations & sub. Sure only hana who have 100K+ subs, but others also catching up Taka, Zea, Cia already long passed 50K & soon miyu & siska will reach 50K this month.

>> No.3127537

>>3127455
It was a joke since the guy said ID instead of IN. They arent cutting any branches. Hell IN wasn't even on the NijiFes art so they may have planned on cutting them out sooner.

>> No.3127546 [DELETED] 

>>3126661
no one will get it when those branches keep getting more members, sponsors and new stuff. ID and KR are completely secure.

>> No.3127608

What is all this talk about NijiEN when didn’t they already tried that before and failed? Is this just NijiEN 2 or are we actually getting a EN branch, somehow again.
I only remember what happened with ID or something where they scrapped an entire branch and rebranded them as English or something. I seriously have no idea what the fuck Ichikara is even doing.

>> No.3127629

>>3127608
I have to wonder if you people are pretending to be retarded at this point.

>> No.3127699

>>3127629
>Haha I said ID instead of IN again! Arent I so funny?

>> No.3127754 [DELETED] 

>>3127608
Are you all retarded or something? 5 minutes can show how things are.

>> No.3127760

>>3127699
It's crazy how many people seem to have some half baked opinions on Nijisanji foreign branches they love to spout in every thread related to one while apparently knowing absolutely 0 about any of them.

>> No.3128042

>>3127354
At this point, Ichikara should've just copied the rest of the crew since they've already done it with Fubuki clone, Sora clone, Marine clone.

>> No.3128129

>>3128042
I think 4 out of the 6 vtubers Fubuki's mama has done are all just Fubuki but a bit different.

>> No.3128139

>>3125789
Did they give it to them or did the krs themselves commission it?

>> No.3128214

>>3128139
Seems more than likely it came from the company. I doubt two of them that happened to be in the same position of some of the lowest subbed members of the branch would also just so happen to get new models made and released at the same time.

>> No.3128251

>>3128139
Probably commisioned it themselves since they've got that sweet merchandise dosh.

>> No.3128324

>>3128251
Wonder would that even be possible or liable since it would mean they’re paying out of pocket and they don’t even get a wage from Ichikara outside of merchandising. At least if Ichikara does it it makes more sense investment wise compared to if the livers did it.

>> No.3128366

>>3128324
I'm not even sure what merchandise he is talking about. I think they do birthday goods and some voices but I doubt anyone is getting rich off of that with the audience sizes we are talking about.

>> No.3128504

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbMegB880HU pirate is live

>> No.3128607

>>3128504
>150 viewers
Jesus. That’s literal indie numbers. What the fuck was the point of her joining Nijisanji if there’s barely any difference outside of giving a cut of her SCs?

>> No.3128616

Ban Hana Hoshikawa Apex when

>> No.3128637

>>3128607
Not really. Most indies struggle to even hit 50 let alone 100 or more.

>> No.3128638

>>3128607
which indie KR vtubers do you know with those numbers?

>> No.3128872

>>3128638
Yeah, bit she’s also speaking English. If even with the EOP advantage and you still could barely break 200 while being in one of the biggest known company in vtubing, what the fuck is the purpose of joining in the first place? She’d be doing the same as an indie, except probably not have to give up another chunk of her income to someone else. Its pretty fucked up.

>> No.3129095

>>3128638
the blue hair guy gets good views. 200-300 avg.
sea vtuber is around 2k+ views.
this person too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSA7LouHOzA

>> No.3129153

>>3128872
>>3129095
Bros, there's no point responding to Nijiniggers. They're trolling at this point.

>> No.3129235

>>3128607
how many viewers do you realistically expect someone who just passed 2.26k subs to have?

>> No.3129294

>>3129235
Why settle for 2.26k subs when you could get 200k subs on debut?

>> No.3129299

>>3128637
>>3128638
Bros, there's no point responding to Holotards. They're trolling at this point.

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>> No.3129316

>>3129294
Yes all the Korean vtubers have 200k subs how silly of me to forget.

>> No.3129336

>>3129153
>>3128607
I agree. Everybody should ONLY care about numbers. If my oshi brings in below 500 concurrent viewers, they are a fucking WHORE and should be forcibly fired. All desires for making friends are a lie. Numbers are my only friend. Nothing else matters except NUMBERS.

>> No.3129367

>go in to local restaurant
>must suck that you guys are failing so hard
>but sir, we arent. We are actually very profitable
>BUT YOU DONT MAKE AS MUCH AS MCDONALDS AND THEREFORE YOU ARE FAILING REEEEE!!!

>> No.3129375

>>3129316
Just because Ichikara can't doesn't mean others can't do it too. Nijisanji was never a barometer for success. Refer to the vtubing scene in Indonesia and India.

>> No.3129428
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>> No.3129442

>>3129428
already speaks 3 languages, can you add a fourth to that?

>> No.3129488

>>3129367
Your scenario fails since in this case, Ichikara is basically McDonalds, dumbass. A local restaurant would be being an Indie and Hololive although popular and well known is still no different from Burgerkings at best. If one of the top companies who pretty much dominated an entire country to the point that their rival had to move overseas to get a profit still can’t get their shit together and is still barely reaching minimum despite being nearly unchallenged, where the employee don’t get any significant different than if they are just to be an indie but instead even less since they’re being paid from just tips that the company will take a share of, then what is the point?

>> No.3129541

>>3129488
Except if she was indie no one would care. There wouldn't even be a thread for your retarded takes in the first place. If there was no benefit KR wouldn't have 5 gens.

>> No.3129548

>>3129488
You tell me, people keep signing up knowing what numbers they can expect based on other members so I guess they see something beneficial in it.

>> No.3129571

>>3129541
No one cares right now. Seems more like to me she’ll just be doing the same thing as she would if she was an indie, except now paying for it as well.

>> No.3129597

>>3129571
And who are you, a vtuber expert? If being an indie is so successful maybe you should try it out.

>> No.3129621

>>3128607
holonigger getting double digit viewers is the average for the Korean branch. She's already doing better than ppl who are it it for years

>> No.3129640

>>3129571
go to take a look at this page, scroll down and look at the hundreds of sub 10 viewer vtubers
https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/live/

>> No.3129733

Is this some sort of /v/ style marketing via shitting on it to get more attention?

>> No.3129781

>>3129733
Numberfags exist everywhere and they are all retarded.

>> No.3129785

>>3129733
This is what happens to threads once the original purpose has expired (debuts are now over, so numberfagging takes over)

>> No.3129792

>>3129733
If you scroll up it was a relatively normal thread at first just talking about the debuts but apparently every thread on this board that isn't already a hololive one eventually needs to become one.

>> No.3129857

>>3129733
wow holofags are new bronies, who would have though?

>> No.3129982

>>3098527
>Its 2021 anons.
yes and?
>>3098675
fuck you for reminding me that one of my childhood games got slaughtered.

>> No.3130142

>>3129733
It's just that HoloEOPs can only read numbers

>> No.3130156

>multiple of them live
>no one cares enough to talk about it
Didnt know Mia has been playing for 2 hours already.

>> No.3130709

Aussie pirate is playing Apex right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-FTRvgx7w

>> No.3130841

>>3096635
Just checked them out. Pirate seems like the only good one there, she's cute.

>> No.3131236

>>3130709
Wow. Talk about variety! No wonder despite having a large roster size, Nijisanji is reclining.

>> No.3131277

>>3131236
Yeah not like it helped Kuzuha and Bora at all.

>> No.3131356

>>3129733
I didn't expect this to get the number of replies it did. You all need to stop replying to baits.
>>3130841
I don't know about only good one but she definitely looks very very cute.

>> No.3131447

>>3129733
This board is ran by holofags which means that anything that isn't related to Hololive immediately gets numberfagged on.

>>3131356
Why waste an opportunity to shit on numberfags?

>> No.3131837

>>3130709
this pirate girl is quite amusing

>> No.3131863

>>3131447
>Why waste an opportunity to shit on numberfags?
Because you're giving them their dopamine hit but if you enjoy doing that, then enjoy your dopamine hit too I guess.

>> No.3131899

Reminder that no matter how good you are at videogames there will always be a Korean that's 3 times better than you and they'll be considered shit by other Koreans https://youtube.com/watch?v=D3sRZt7Zoy8

>> No.3131929

>>3098326
>JOPs won't watch Koreans
>Bora singlehandedly saved the KR branch by pandering to JPs and being good at Apex

Anon-chama...

>> No.3131947

>>3131899
she was saying how she was bad at games earlier but just now she won a 3v1 which doesn't seem too bad to me even if they are bad players

>> No.3131970

>>3131899
I'm so excited for this girl. We finally have an Apex player who can speak KR, JP, and EN. Huge props to Ichikara for this wonderful find!

>> No.3131990

>>3131970
Yuya...

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>>3098676
>>3098873
I dont really understand this need for nijisanji JP to even pander to the western community when most of them wont ever understand their general content that emulates japanese TV, which westerns never seem to get, like levegacha and b grade variety

>> No.3132073

>>3131995
JP doesn't need to

Heck, I'm pretty sure EN won't either.

It's just that people have this skewed perception that anything less than peak Hololive numbers is considered a failure, without even realizing that peak Hololive is an anomaly that won't last long.

Nijisanji has their consistent numbers. Hololive numbers will come crashing once more people start getting vaccinated for Covid.

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I can already tell the Pirate's timezone is going to make her hard to watch for me. Already missed a stream and now she is streaming Apex in JP primetime. Goddammit

>> No.3132389

>>3131995
I'd rather those official programs remain the way they are and only understand a fraction of it than have it "westernised" and understand all of it, that shit's fun just the way it is

>> No.3132396

>>3132168
She's from twitch and it seems like she'll be streaming E-sports games. So you'll probably catch her doing long streams that go late into the night for her and early morning US.

>> No.3132793

>>3132396
I'd rather watch Bora or chubas from VSPO to be honest with you,

>> No.3132864

>>3132793
Good for you?

>> No.3132900

>>3132793
I prefer ones that can speak my language personally.

>> No.3133033

>>3132073
>Hololive numbers will come crashing once more people start getting vaccinated for Covid.

I won't go that far, yes their will definitely incline but Cover will not be stupid enough (I hope) to stay idle and let their number drops without doing anything. They already set foot in the EOP market, Europe and ES are ripped for the picking.
I'll be frank, I'm a big hololive fan but I want Nijisanji to compete in the west as well since I believe competition will breed innovation.

>> No.3133034

>>3097681
Wtf I’ll watch her now.

>> No.3133072

>>3097919
>he never saw the clips where haachama drops into an Aussie accent
Her english isn’t even her real voice newfag.

>> No.3133191

>>3097979
Haachama’s Australian accent is her real English voice.

>> No.3133252

>>3133033
Vshoujo exists and already mogs 90% of Holo

Pretty sure NijiEN will all but kill Hololive in the West, but Ichikara just refuses to debut them for some reason

>> No.3134055

>>3133252
>Vshoujo exists and already mogs 90% of Holo
Mate, I'm trying to be realistic here but you make an interesting point, in most case the switch over is probably around 20%-25%. As Hololive is still a big corporation with funding from investors that Vshoujo lacks. This means that the former can do events and expansion that the latter lacks unless they start doing a partnership with big Corpo (not unrealistic) but I think Vshoujo panders to completely different audiences that Cover targets.

>Pretty sure NijiEN will all but kill Hololive in the West
That will be hard for Ichikara, since Holove already has the first-mover advantage in the west. This means they already established a strong brand loyalty among fans that you normally found in fans of apple, Nintendo, sports. I won't say it is impossible for Ichikara to achieve it but it will have to spend a shitload of money in marketing, unlike Hololive that kept having ridiculous strings of luck on its side. Other than that I genuinely hope that Nijisanji will be successful.

>> No.3137858

Mia ASMR
https://youtu.be/yeccpXPl3Ps

>> No.3139222

>>3134055
>Other than that I genuinely hope that Nijisanji will be successful.
I don’t. Nijisanji has too many glaring problem and skeletons that should not be allowed to stay as is. Terrible management, terrible hiring process, terrible treatment of employee and on and on.
I don’t think Cover is any better but at least their faults are more due to incompetence than Nijisanji which is just down right malevolent. Do they even pay their livers?

>> No.3139876

>>3097785
she's canonically a korean shrine priestess who was corrupted by an eldritch book. still fits into the lore.

>> No.3143572 [DELETED] 

>>3139222
take your meds, you're retarded.

>> No.3144077

>>3139222
I honestly don't know if they do. Didn't that one Dog vtuber that they employ have to beg for people to drop some akasupas because he didn't have enough money to pay rent or something?

>> No.3146120

>>3129857
It’s only a matter of time until we start seeing Pony Vtubers

>> No.3146214 [DELETED] 

>>3129375
You know the same can be said for hololive, right? Most of the industry isn't like them. You all need to look at numbers for other agencies outside of hololive and nijisanji to see what it really looks like.

>> No.3146267

>>3144077
Well the dog chuuba lost her irl job on top of that she's also sick

>> No.3146752

>>3146267
Wait, so does anyone actually have an idea as to how much they get paid? I know some anon from wayback deduced that cover probably only paid the girls minimum wage but because of akasupas, youtube payments, and merch, most of the girls have made hololive their main job with a few exceptions.

>> No.3147182

>>3144077
not all Niji livers make enough even after salary and cuts from merch to treat it as a full time job so people end up falling into treating Nijisanji as a side or weekend job. this was the case for early Hololive at one point and still is the case with the Holostars (Oga mentioned during his anniversary stream about having a day job - when you look at the fact that most of his streams during the week are an hour to two hours long that makes sense).
>>3146752
Nijisanji probably isn't that different. they pay a salary too but I wouldn't imagine it's higher than minimum wage. we know they also get a cut of SC and merch and we also know that some things like 3d streams are paid for both by Ichikara and by the talent. we know they provide medical insurance and some other assistance like helping with moving but with as many streamers as there are there's no way that applies to people who work part time.

>> No.3147183

>>3098633
Niji has always been the main competitor of Hololive, them stepping on the EN scene is a big thing for western vtuber fans so I'm going go out of my way and say at least 10k. There will be holoEOPs checking them out for sure alongside core Niji fanbase.

>> No.3147307

>>3128872
Nijisanji doesn't pay a salary. It's confirmed that Kataribe doesn't get any money since she hasn't streamed for 2 years

>> No.3147311

>>3147183
Depends when they stream and if a HoloEN member is also streaming.
If they stream during Gura's time slot they're pretty fucked.

>> No.3147786

>>3147307
Maybe they pay based on the amount of streams per week/month? But then that begs the question why there is no set qouta of streams per week ala Cover. Exceptions of course can be made due to health reasons but at least from the few Nijis that I've somewhat followed casually, the ones on the lower-side have very erratic schedules. Makes it feel more like a bunch of contractors than actual employees. Seriously, I love Lulu and I couldn't give a damn about the rest, but Nijisanji really gives me Machinima vibes which just rubs me the wrong way. They're lucky their CEO is rich as fuck.

>> No.3149294 [DELETED] 

>>3147786

That example really shows how much you know about nijisanji. It would be a better world if you all researched before talking shit.

>>3147307
Why Kataribe would even be paid if she doesn't stream since 2019? lol She probably isn't even working on there anymore. Or maybe she's a staff now?

>> No.3150318

>>3147786
Nijis are all erratic on their schedule probably because is not worth it to be full time except for a few on the top.
As a side job soudns good, but not enough for them to live from it.

>> No.3150543

>>3096635
Fuck, as a korean american I hate koreans, but I'm falling for Ban Hada.

>> No.3153215

>>3149294
Your free to enlighten me anon. Like I said, I only watch some Nijis casually. Some of them I didn't even know we're Nijis until later.

>> No.3153566

>>3147786
Nijisanji schedule is quality over quantity :)

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>>3133252
>NijiEN will all but kill Hololive in the West
kek. more irrelevant than vshojo and codemiko

>> No.3154436

>>3153631
Admit it anon, HoloEN is the first chuuba most EN viewers ever watched. Once they fell further into the rabbit hole they found that HoloEN is boring compared to other chuubas. HoloEN supremacy is over, the market is now spread out. NijiEN will put the last nail in the HoloEN's coffins.

>> No.3154458

I thought people would still be talking about the new KRs here but it's all just tribal and numberfagging sad

>> No.3154700

>>3154458
KR is an irrelevant branch anon. The debut numbers ultimately cemented that as a fact. So there's really nothing left to do in this thread but to tribalfag until it's run its course.

>> No.3154745

can any of them sing?

>> No.3158358

>>3154745
I mean most people like to sing. I dont think any of them are professional singers if that's what you mean.

>> No.3158590

>>3149294
Are you impying that Nijisanji's management were so disfunctional that they forgot to update Kataribe's employment status? No wonder a lot of their talents jumped ship or just outright quitted.

>> No.3163509

I’m a Kaizocrew now. That is all.

>> No.3163715

AUSTRALIAN INA SUPREMACY

>> No.3164152

>>3163715
Dont know Ina. How are they even similar at all?

>> No.3165586

>>3154745
seffy is nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHniaBAlqMw

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>>3165586
super solid singer I'd say, a bit more polish and she could be real nice

>> No.3166193

>>3164152
Ina is KR. Hada's JP/KR>EN voice, don't fight me.

>> No.3166639

>>3166077
great at singing was not expecting that

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