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30304342 No.30304342 [Reply] [Original]

In order to breach the very noticeable gap between communities, as well as quell the growing unrest and tribalism in this board, I propose we discuss some of the least controversial VTubers.

We can define "least hated" by analyzing the following criteria:


> Small or non-existent Anti community
> No noticeable or long-lasting "Yabs" on record
> Unknown on non-controversial PL
> Considered to be a net-neutral to net-positive influence on the larger VTuber community


Please be sure to keep personal bias and subjective opinion on things like quality of entretainment, technology, VTuber model, etc. out of the equation and stick to evidence instead.

>> No.30304576

I will go out of my way to schizo/antipost every chuuba posted here.

>> No.30304630

Not Ironmouse
Not Pippa
Not Beatani
Not Kiki
Not Nadeshiko
Not whoever /vt/ obnoxiously shills 24/7 because she's probably not worth it
Definitely not

>> No.30304690

>>30304630
Definitely not your oshi*

>> No.30304766

>>30304342
Almost everyone in both HoloJP and NijiJP with a handful of exceptions on each side.

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>> No.30304841
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Nene. people are going to respond to say they "hate" her for tracing but they don't.

>> No.30304842

>>30304342
I would like to state for the record that Botan has an adorable laugh and also that I don't like iron mouse at all. I have no idea how the gathered such a following.

>> No.30304927
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I'll start with Botan:

> No big Yabs yet
> Small anti presence despite the relatively large audience
> Little hate even from people who dislike or openly hate Hololive
> No openly confrontational interaction with other chuubas
> Has not expressed inciteful opinions yet

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People may be indifferent to Mio but I can't seriously see anyone actively hating her

>> No.30305027

>>30304766
You underestimate the pettiness of this board. There's anons out here who will direct hate on the smallest of grievances.

>> No.30305209

>>30304841
Many people have forgotten this already, but when Nene first debuted she received a lot of flack for the her outfit. She actually had a very hard time at first and it's only lately that people have warmed up to her and she's gathered a larger following.

>> No.30305538

Most NijiJP and HoloJP hate is just shitposting. There are some chuubas, like Lamy or Watame, who are just vacuums of hate because they literally just don't do enough to cause hate.

>> No.30305726

Watame:

> Harmless and comfy demeanor renders her inoffensive to most people
> Most other chubas have shown a liking or at least neutral opinion on her
> Was largely unaffected when the Coco/Chama yab happened with China in spite of her closeness to Coco
> Watamelon

Some counter points to this:

> Was in Coco's shadow for a long time, even expressing dissatisfaction with her numbers when compared to her
> Didn't cry for Rushia when she was let go, even if she's known for crying at the most insignificant things

>> No.30305891

>>30305538
Lots of people dislike Lamy because they're agains GFE in general, and the people who do like GFE tend to be parasocial, and rabid

>> No.30306105

Botan, Korone, Okayu, Subaru, and Watame.

I didn't include Mio because she's partially responsible for the Holocaust. Sorry, faqing cute wolf.

>> No.30306228

>>30305891
Normies are generally the ones who are against GFE, and I don't think normies know who Lamy is.

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>>30304342
>In order to breach the very noticeable gap between communities
>quell the growing unrest and tribalism in this board
I WILL incite hatred
I WILL shitpost
I WILL spew lies and rrats about enemy chuubas
I am a nationalist IRL so it's only natural for me to enjoy this "Us vs them" status quo. FUCK anything non-holo related

>> No.30306268

>>30304342
Onolumi

>> No.30306273

>>30306254
Nah, you won't.

>> No.30306286

>>30305726
>Didn't cry for Rushia when she was let go

Wasn't the whole reason Rushia was let go because she doxxed her friends? It's hard to cry for that, if that's what happened.

>> No.30306349

>>30306254
You have the watch.

>> No.30306357

>>30304342
according to s-k, the "least hated" are most of NijiEN, a few of the ex-NijiKRs, and Debi-sama

>> No.30306356

>>30304929
>>30306105
I will never forgive that bitch

>> No.30306540

>>30305726
>Didn't cry for Rushia when she was let go, even if she's known for crying at the most insignificant things
Based. If even Watame, who is Hololive's crybaby and cried for Sana, didn't cry then you know that Rushia really, really fucked up badly. Even Fubuki was unfazed.

>> No.30306787

corpo only? or chuubas im general? pikamee is probably your oshi's favorite chuuba

>> No.30306849

>>30306356
What'd she do?

>> No.30306903

>>30306357
Only on 4chan would you find retards that think suki kirai has value

>> No.30306967

>>30305209
>when Nene first debuted she received a lot of flack for the her outfit
proof?

>> No.30307007

>>30306787
Her model change pissed a lot of people here off. Also, she's a lolicon or something like that, so that was a yab if I remember correctly

>> No.30307059

>>30306967
I thought it looked stupid. Still do.
Source: me what the fuck else am I gonna put here

>> No.30307158

>>30306787
>people finding out she likes lolis
>marshmallow death threats
>streams on Twitch more often because she doesn't like YouTube anymore
Ehhh

>> No.30307591

>>30306849
I don't quite remember the details but Mio streamed a game without permissions, and I think she also did it on a modded console, and it led to a gigantic amount of copyright strikes against hololive. It also led to permissions autism getting much worse for everyone. I think the game was ghost trick.

>> No.30307599

>>30307158
Could be worse desu

>> No.30307686

>>30306357
>Least hated
>NijiEN
Fucking lmao. I can understand debi though I've never seen anyone shitpost about her.

>> No.30307776

>>30304342
the recent botan + watame interactions in that dumb survival game and in minecraft are so cute
you can tell how much they genuinely make each other laugh its honestly the most refreshing thing ive seen in a while

>> No.30307884

>not a single polka post
sad

>> No.30307924

>>30307591
Fucking Capcom

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The things I like in a character and find noncontroversial...are still controversial to others. There's no bridging the gap.

>> No.30308391

>>30308264
She would be noncontroversial if they took away her ability to use social media.

>> No.30308389

>>30306903
it has at least equal or greater value than judging fan perception of vtubers through /vt/ shitposts

>> No.30308524

>>30305726
>Didn't cry for Rushia
Watame is emotional, not dumb. She knew Rushia was a fake bitch who doxxed her "friends" in an attempt to save her own skin.

>> No.30308609

>>30306849
>streamed Ghost Trick on a modified 3DS console (illegal in Japan)
>got a suspension
>copyright strikes
>Cover staff panic, start privating streams because OOPS WE DON'T KNOW OUR OWN PERMISSIONS
>tons of well-known and popular streams/memories hidden
>VERY slowly some came back overtime (many Holos had to do this themselves and not everything made it back)
>in all the chaos, Subaru's manager went full fucking retard and instead of making streams private, PERMANENTLY DELETED a massive chunk of her content
and the funniest thing is that shortly after returning mio did a sponsored capcom stream

>> No.30308638

>>30307158
you forgot to say that she mostly does react content nowadays.

>> No.30308668

>>30304342
Kaela from HoloID. Most of the things I've seen about her are positive, though some retards here use here to shitpost about chuubas who don't stream much

>> No.30308686

>>30307591
japan is so fucking gay with copyright holy shit

>> No.30309178

>>30304342
Threads like this are pointless. Any chuuba that is somewhat liked by the community is watched like a hawk and has every slight misstep or issue blown out of proportion and brought up exhaustively, and anyone who doesn't fall under that first umbrella only does so because literally no one gives a fuck about them, and in that case why even bother bringing them up for something like this?

>> No.30309420

Why are holos streaming less? Mio hasnt streamed for a week
I hope they are not fucking men without the intent of procreation

>> No.30310031

>>30304342
prob botan watame and luna

>> No.30310137

>>30306286
>>30306540
>>30308524
That's not how emotions work you literal autists.

>> No.30310343

>>30309420
Didn't Mio get COVID

>> No.30310433

>>30304342
Mori, Kiara, Matsuri, Nakiri Ayame, Uruha Rushia, Kureiji Ollie, Artia and of course Hitomi Chris

>> No.30310580
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There is nothing bad to say about Korone, even if you try it's really hard to take it seriously

>> No.30310637

>>30310343
yeah me

>> No.30310708

>>30310580
I hate the fact that she's not bearing my children right now.

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>>30310580
Domestic violence is not ok anon

>> No.30310792

>>30304576
Absolutely based, somebody's got to do the job

>> No.30310848

>>30304927
>"Yet"

>> No.30311544

>>30310580
True, Korone is true idol

>> No.30311864

>>30305726
you triggered me

>Sheep numberfag arc
She was working her hardest ever to produce Watame no Uta, a high-effort daily show she premiered at 5:30am, right before the similarly produced AsaCoco.
All that work didn't translate to measurable results in terms of numbers. She had one conversation about it, live on stream and decided to keep doing the daily show.
When AsaCoco stopped the daily grind, she kept doing Wata no Uta on a weekly basis. Eventually it stopped, and then the COVID golden era happened.
As a top 1% vtuber, sheep brought the show back for a few months. She announced a final episode. The last premiere was watchalong-ed on stream and had her in tears when Coco spoke and said that AsaCoco was over and Wata no Uta was over. Coco had already told everyone she was graduating, we didn't know.

> Didn't cry for Rushia when she was let go, even if she's known for crying at the most insignificant things
Watame didn't cry for Coco either. After Coco's graduation announcement, we expected a crybaby sheep. Instead, she streamed with a smile and asked US if we were fine, if we were in pain. She didn't cry until the day after the graduation.

Sheep is a very strong emotional individual.
The only thing she's guilty of is trying to please everyone.

>> No.30312326 [DELETED] 

>>30310580
>>30311544
>is a single mother

>> No.30312450

>>30312326
>believing in rrats

>> No.30313051

I hate all women.

>> No.30314033
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>>30304342
As far as this board (which only watches Holos) goes I think it's something a bit like this.

>> No.30314303

>>30314033
You can up Coco if you're counting kson.

>> No.30314513

>>30312326
>milf korone
god i wish

>> No.30314544

>>30314033
>t. deadcuck

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>>30314033
>Mori, Kronii anywhere but the top of the most hated lists
Nobody hates Laplus

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>No yabs
>Hated purely for being boring which is entirely subjective

>> No.30314859

>>30306105
>Korone
literally one of the most hated people on the JP side of the community
>Okayu
She got a ton of flak because she continued to collab with chinese brands after the whole Coco thing, as well as for her closeness to shiina
>Subaru
got a lot of hate (and still does) for snubbing most of her old friends after reinventing her image to be more idol-like

>> No.30314960

>>30314859
>as well as for her closeness to shiina
But why

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>>30314303
>>30314544
>>30314745
The list has been revised

>> No.30315372

>>30314859
>got a lot of hate (and still does) for snubbing most of her old friends after reinventing her image to be more idol-like
Must have been mentored by Miko.

>> No.30315460

>>30308058
Only good answer in this thread.

>> No.30316314

>>30306286
>>30308524

she didnt cry for coco either you stupid faggot

>> No.30317175

>>30315060
this is alright
id move luna into not hated tho

>> No.30317248

>>30306356
t. aiga

>> No.30317514

>>30315060
> mildly hated Reine / Luna
who even hates them? Indo nationalists and Niji fans?

>> No.30318468

>>30316314
https://youtu.be/vRvQ8xtfRWs
It takes 5 seconds to google, Jesus fucking Christ.

>> No.30318497

>>30308264
There is always enough common ground to bridge the gap, feeshposter, I'm sure that we can at least agree that in spite of all the drama, Finana is still pure sex

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Rosemi

> Has managed to stay clean even after several collabs with other, very controversial chubas from different groups
> Most seiso among all the NijiEN girls, I know this doesn't mean much, has helped to keep the parasocialfags at bay
> Being sheltered to the point of social incompetence has perhaps made it so that she is currently incapable of doing something offensive

Any reasons to hate on Rosemi-sama?

>> No.30319922

>>30318468
Don't bother with fancucks, they're as mentally ill as their onahole oshi.

>> No.30320125

>>30319556
remember when she finally got to do streaming full time?

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Roberu & Oga

> Massive underdogs
> Have not managed to not (publicly) cuckold any other female tuber's audience so far, Ollie and Rat's don't count as you can't cuck someone in an open relationship and Fox is only a friend
> Somehow not involved in any yabs yet
> Stuck to Stars even when the numbers were low and prospects seemed bleak

>> No.30320500

>>30320125
Did she get flack back then?

>> No.30320677

>>30320500
She got flack after. Rosebuds puffed themselves up into a schizo frenzy saying shes going to SSJ ascended la creatividad, but she didn't do that and just did her normal content, so schizos went nuts.

>> No.30320791

>>30304927
Don't some schizos hate her for doing FPS tourneys with males in them or something?

>> No.30321430

>>30320791
That's so schizophrenic I immediately belive it

>> No.30322088

>>30320791
The only tournament I remember her joining was the Modern Warfare (2019) tournament. But she ended up getting demolished by people who actually play the game for a living and never joined another tournament after that.

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You have to be an absolute fucking insane person to actively hate Korone, Okayu, Subaru, or Botan. Same deal with Choco, Choco advertises exactly what she right up front so there's no excuses for anyone to get mad at her when everyone knows what they're getting into, which is an expired cake with EXCEPTIONAL autism.
Actually, now that I think about it, who the FUCK actually is anti for Watame? People post crazy shit using her as a reaction image, but it'd be incredibly schizophrenic to hate her based on that alone when she works her ass off.

>> No.30322770

>>30320791
>>30322088
She joined a Battlefield V event with Towa and a couple of her friends and got a schizo superchat for playing with a male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdYtFDD4Hc

>> No.30323597

>>30322687
Some people hate Korone for being a corpo as well as a nepotism pick from Okayu

>> No.30324087

>>30304342
Tokino Sora.

>> No.30325009

>>30315060
I genuinely forgot who the Holo before Iofi is. ID?

>> No.30326104

>>30323597
Nepotism is only a problem when the hire is bad, which is a terribly stupid take for any of gamers.

>> No.30326537

>>30314859
Why do JPs hate Korone?

>> No.30326913

>>30326537
She was a big westaboo back when she first debuted and got a lot of hate for it by JP schizos. She has since toned it down.

>> No.30327295
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Most JPs with few exceptions are generally inoffensive. Simply not understanding the language is part of this perception in en audiences, but of course is not the only reason and there are more objective factors as well.

Pretty much every EN talent in every big outfit attracts a share of schizos and antis, though there are some exceptions. In holoen most people get along with Mumei, while in nijien Selen is also someone who doesn't really breed drama.

I think 'size to hate ratio' is another factor to consider. For example, Gura is the biggest figure this side of the Pacific in vtubing, and thus in absolute terms you will also see a lot of shitposting and arguing involving her as a topic; but at the sae rate, she is also a lot better at managing her fame and opsec than many other en girls, but the level of static is not nearly as great as it could *potentially* be.

On that note, something else to consider is that the worst possible streamers in the world, never get notable enough to be in a conversation in the first place. There is a certain kind of 'sweet spot' when it comes to controversy, where you have to be good enough to get yourself into the picture in the first place, while being divisive in other ways. Cases that are totally unambiguous or inarguable likewise don't occasion argument. Id est, it is precisely those situations where there are redeeming qualities or extenuating circumstances, where a cursory look would only see things going one way or another, that in turn attract the greatest energies of disputation.

>> No.30329732

>>30324087
The unsalted cracker nature of her personality and everything she makes definitely helps in keeping opinions of her neutral. The only feeling she illicits in people is unbearable boredom.

>> No.30329884

>>30326913
that's a shame. does explain why she is so hesitant to ever interact with EN girls

>> No.30330439

>>30307059
If it was that far back, you can talk about how Nene’s roommate doxxed the entire gen.

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>>30320427
Oger chinko manko game yab?

>> No.30330968

>>30312326
ogey

>> No.30332839

ITT: Post your oshi and I'll tell you why you should hate her

>> No.30333226

>>30311864
>Watame didn't cry for Coco either.
2 year Membersheep here. I remember when that happened and she was still very distraught and choked up. I don't think it's right to say she didn't cry for Coco. Watame didn't cry on Coco's graduation stream, but the only reason for this was because she wrote out her letter to Coco, because she didn't think she could keep it together, doing it live. Coco cried. Watame streamed at her normal time after Coco's graduation, but when she greeted us, one of the Watamates noticed her voice sounded hoarse. Watame saw that then broke down crying, telling us that she had been crying before the stream but wanted to put on a happy face for us. She spent the next 30 minutes as a bawling mess, but by the end of the stream we cheered her up to her normal self.

>> No.30333624

>>30314033
>towa
I like her but you are definitely a tourist

>> No.30334501

>>30311864
>Watame didn't cry for Coco either.
She UGLY cried for a solid half hour on stream the day after.

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>>30304342
Tokino Sora

>> No.30336724

>>30311864
She cried for a whole month before the announcement of Coco's forced kick out and was constantly sad in her streams.
Living through this made me feel like it was all a scam when I couldn't understand what was happening and what made her sad.
When a friend or family member is sad they would usually tell you why, but in this case she was forced to hid it by management which warped the illusion of being a family.
Then when the announcement happened everything broke for me and I couldn't see Hololive the same way as before.
She stopped her Watame no Uta when Coco graduated.
It was the end of an era and the start of great suffering.

She seems to be doing better right now and to be happier.
Maybe she found the courage to change her future a bit but I don't know what caused this change.
The reason she is trying to please everyone would be because of low self esteem and would mean she still isn't over her traumatic past.

I hope she founds the will to revisit her past in that case.
Maybe she is satisfied with her current life, but she can reach greater heights without her current mindset limitations.

>> No.30337054

>>30335482
That's right anon, Tokino Sora is to all VTubers what silent footage of trains is to all movies. Sadly she is also just as entertaining as a silent, black and white reel of a train.

>> No.30337207

>>30304927
Some anon here claimed that she's shit for shitting on her fans but I'm genuinely confused because I never heard of her ever doing this.
I know he could've meant that she shat on them on an fps games but you can't hate a chuuba because of your skill issues, that's not a justified reason.
I did my reps on the archive and he's post is legit the only one that claims this on the entire board's history but I still need answers.

>> No.30337601

>>30314792
>discord leak

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Hated only by commies who dislike anyone for being rich and KFPs for scissoring their oshi sore

>> No.30338894

>>30308058
This.

>> No.30341477

>>30317175
>>30317514
nijifags stills hates her for the betrayal

>> No.30342347

>>30335482
Is Froot actually dumb? Kisuna AI debuted 1 year BEFORE Sora

>> No.30342389

>>30317514
Reine is hated because she is rich. That's literally the only reason.

>> No.30342524

>>30309420
She's moving.

And also fucking me.

>> No.30342551

>>30342347
>Hololive member

>> No.30342692

>>30341477
Why should anyone care about what nijiniggers think?

>> No.30342801

>>30315060
Isn't Iroha hated by the Japanese for some reason? Or are we not gonna count them? Because if not, the entire list need a revision

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>>30304927
I want to be comforted by Botan

>> No.30344245

>>30342926
With her slap? Or with her feet?

>> No.30344512

>>30342347
>first member of Hololive
Are YOU dump?

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>>30344245
both

>> No.30344907

>>30304342
Least hated chuuba is likely some 2view no one heard about.

>> No.30345605

>>30304927
Hag supremacy

>> No.30348178

>>30333624
The Towa yab is old news just like the Mel yab

>> No.30350316

>>30304927
Ugly roommate but since she's a former pro I respect her as a person, not as a piece of meat. If only she would tryhard a bit in a few tourneys. Then I can properly anti her for not living up to her potential.

>> No.30350423

>>30305726
Watame a 2faced bitch who never acknowledged rushia's firing although she pretend cried for sana

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