/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why does VShojo generate so much controversy in the English-speaking vtuber community?

[Anonymous No.]

Too many cranium accessories.

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>>2942905
They are not Japanese

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When will we start just leaving a "use the archive newfag" reply to these type of bait threads and then letting them die, for fuck's sake...

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>>2942989
This

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>>2943048
Half the problem is morons on /vt/ who are incapable of ignoring these obvious bait threads and feeding easy (you)s. Same with the Kiara threads, same with the Nyanners threads. /vt/ is full of fucking retards.

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>>2943219
it's called funposting, zoomer

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>>2942905
Everyone here wants to be Japanese really bad. They hope insulting white and Latina girls will make them more Japanese. Sadly, it will not.

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>>2943048
>>2943219
>everyone is dumb but me
>said the two idiots providing replies to a bait thread instead of just hiding it

being aware don't mean shit if you going to draw attention to the thread anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>2942905
They are activist, politically active and hate parts of japanese anime culture.
As simple as.
I'm here to forget the problems I have, not to get reminded of more.

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>>2943309
In what videos do they talk about politics?

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>>2943219
>>2943048
>VSJ fags trying to act superior again
Did it ever occure to you that this is the reason everyone shits on you?

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>>2943276
Zoomers love baiting and getting baited, what are you talking about

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>>2942905
It doesn't. It's just that /hlgg/, which makes up over half this board, has problems with pink cat
This board isn't necessarily representative of the wider community

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>>2942905
Literally nobody outside of /vt/ has problems with vshojo. Other vtubers like them. It's just some schizos here mad they're not japanese.

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>>2942905
Porntuber and nyanners pretty much from what I can tell.

Those are the 2 reasons.

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>>2942989
spbp

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what do vshojo (the company) actually do? it seems to me like they're exactly how they were before joining. I know that's "the point" but what even is the point?

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>>2943277
You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection.
All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that.
Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.

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>>2942905
because they are shit

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Vshoujo wouldn't bother anyone if they just kept to themselves, people only get annoyed when they try to interact with Hololive (ID/EN mostly) on twitter.

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>>2942905
Vtubing or not they're still e-girls and e-girls are controversial by nature.

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Controversy and constant bait aren't the same thing. They've done nothing since debuting that's made the wider community mad at a single event or action. The Nekopakra thing and Hime's earthquake tweet are the closest they've ever came to real controversy. People are just mad at them existing as a concept.

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>>2942905
Because one or more of them will appear in political ads within the next 3 years.

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>>2943766
female presidents aren't real

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>>2943328
Doesnt need to be videos, they do in their official media profiles.
When I involve myself in a media, I don't want that stuff there at all, I respect if you want that or other people is fine with that, but vtubers are part of my cope from reality, so I just prefer it without any kind of politics or social justice.

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>>2943807
Doesn't have to be that. Nyanners is going to play Among Us with the communists.

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https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1346963097295183874
they are political, I dont care about american politics, so fuck them.

[Anonymous No.]

its a group of roasties

[Anonymous No.]

>https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1346963097295183874
>they are political, I dont care about american politics, so fuck them.

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>>2942905
>They aren't Japanese
>People went to vtubers because western entertainment and entertainers are fucking shit/trash
>It's something new and foreign so people like it
>Cute anime girls talking Japanese
>Japanese women have mastered the art of being cute
This is coming from a guy that does NOT have yellow fever) even their own men are impressed with how well they pull it off.
>Usually don't treat their viewers like shit
Not all about the money to them it's about showing off their skills/talents, making people smile, or even connecting to people around the world. Not all of them are like what I stated but a number of them are and it shows.
>They just pull off the act better
And any kind of drama or bad history related to their past personas or irl selves are either not as bad as Vwhores or just well hidden enough that no one knows.

I think I covered it all.

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>>2944149

[Anonymous No.]

Never knew the schizos in 4chan were representative of the English Vtuber community

[Anonymous No.]

>>2944517
With the amount of tourists from reddit, discord, and twitter nowadays it might actually is

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>>2944517
>>2944571
We have so many tourists nowadays and even indies from /wvt/ unironically prefers this website over twitter or their own discord for some reason. Even they themselves said this place was better than their own cesspool.

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>>2942905
They're talentless whores who are an active detriment to V-tubing

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>>2942905
/vt/ is not the "English-speaking vtuber community". Most non-affiliated tubers like them, and the ones that don't are ten view chumps jealous of their success.

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>>2942905
ironmouse is excellent, beyblade is based, the lich girl, melody and nyanners are all ok. Silvervale is very nice according to a lot of vtubers and thats enough for me.
I dont know about the rest but if they're friends with people I like they're probably good too.
Self-hating whites are a plague, you're no better than twitter leftoids.

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>>2946745
Silvervale is cool. She's a bit of a tryhard but at least she produces content. Unlike Hime.

Veibae seems like an insufferable millennial twat.

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>>2946745
>Silvervale is very nice
Her skyrim videos have been really entertaining and I don't normally watch silvervale. The vods back to the first episode of it are on her twitch.

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>>2942905
They're fucking political activists that need to kept as far away as possible from all /jp/s and I will do everything in my power to do this. I've learned my lessons with all my other hobbies. Gatekeeping must be practiced AT ALL COST to eradicated these cancerous tumors.

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>>2947227
>in my power

You have no power. Bitching on /vt/ accomplishes nothing.

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>>2947278
A few indog schizos managed to force the hololive ID branch to speak more indog by bitching.
Everyone here should look at this and follow their example for getting nyanners and zen blacklisted from interacting with JP corporate vtubers that are still relevant.

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>>2942905
They feel like Jumping on the hype-wagon type tubers. I heard about half of them were quite dismissive of anime culture. That makes me just ignore them.

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>>2943277
Japanese hands typed this

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>>2947696

Really, I've always heard the complaints on the contrary, that they'd all been doing exactly same thing they're doing now for years, but without models, and didn't switch it up

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>>2947323
That's a little different. That'd be like establishing a HL-EN branch and having them all speak Japanese. For most otaku / weebs that would work here, but someone would eventually bitch about them not speaking English to an English audience (or they just wouldn't have gotten as popular).

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>>2943417
>Porntuber
Interestingly enough, nobody here besides the schizos has a problem with Melody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2947696
>I heard
This is why you're stupid.

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>>2947696
>Anime """"culture""""
Anime destroys culture. The Japanese used to be a proud people...

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>>2942905
Bunch of unironic porn streamers plus cringe twitch thots jumping in on the bandwagon to get a piece of the EN vtubing pie. No seiso at all.

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>>2948185
Because despite being a literal camwhore, Melody isn't as big of a thot as many of the others.

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>>2942905
BLM supporters and raging SJWs

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>>2948204
Seethe.

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>>2948343
This guy just described what I feel about them.

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>>2942905
Because they're a clique that does nothing for vtubers other than themselves and make people think all EN tubers are whores.

Plus the clipfags only care about them and nobody else. No need to keep on uploading Nyanners saying pee pee poo poo every day.

And let's not forget people like Nyanners only jumped on the vtuber bandwagon to stay relevant, and she clinged onto Melody too.

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>>2942905
Who?

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>>2942905
/vt/ and /hsg/ are full of career contrarians and neopuritans. There is no actual controversy outside of the 4ch monoculture.

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>>2942905
you just had this thread

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>>2951009
And you fucks can't ignore it and bite every time, so they keep getting made.

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>>2942905
they don't follow bushido code like jp/jp run vtubers, none of them were folded 1000 times.

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>>2942905
they are whores for a reason anon

[Anonymous No.]

Wildly variable quality in their talents, unlike the consistency usually observed in larger groups.

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>>2942905
>pee pee poo poo
>haha clip this!
Nyanners later
>Im not just pee pee poo poo
>Why do clippers only get these moments?!

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>>2950821
>she clinged onto Melody too.
Melody would have never escaped the chaturbate dungeon if it wasn't for her falling into Zen, Silver, and Nyanners's Vchat clique.
The real hangeron is Mouse who was literally nobody and likely would have died by now if not for the clique being eyes to her and letting her buy better medicine.

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>>2948343
This mostly. Feels like they have no class.
Hololive flirts with being lewd all the time but it doesn't ever feel like they cross over into straight-up raunchy like vshojo does.

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>>2951318
>Because they're a clique that does nothing for vtubers other than themselves and make people think all EN tubers are whores.
Ironmouse brings focus to small vtubers all the time, she hasn't done one of her vtuber deep dives in a few weeks but she still raids them regularly. Picture related, she raided Momotexx on her birthday a couple days ago who later thanked her by drawing this.
She does more for the community than most, but go ahead and give me an example of someone who does more.
>Melody would have never escaped the chaturbate dungeon if it wasn't for her falling into Zen, Silver, and Nyanners's Vchat clique.
Mouse not Nyanners, Nyan didn't join till later.

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>>2944008
yeah but he wants to know about vshojo not all vtubers.

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>>2942905
Infantile, crass humour. May take the form of sex jokes or toilet "humour", for example.
Then again, considering the spam of "ambrosia" threads and baby-talk here like "-oomer" and "booba", I'm surprised they aren't more liked.

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>>2952610
And that's ignoring how many of their favorites do the same shit.

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>>2942905
Holofags mad because SLUTS and Nijifags mad that VShojo has the superior noraneko.

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>>2943582
This is a great pasta.

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Most of /vt/ outside of the few dedicated threads know nothing about vtubers outside of hololive and a couple JP indies. Outside of 4chan most people don't really give a fuck about any of the "Problems" brought up here.

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>>2952830
The only discussion outside of 4chan for Vshojo is KF or discords. Reddit has none.

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>>2952830
just gonna ignore Vshojo, Niji and AI? okay...

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>>2942905
because they actively engage in every controversy
gamergate, BLM, not liking the new hollywood blockbuster means you're a nazi. Every stupid fucking thing that happens, they cant keep their mouth shut

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>>2942905
/vt/ is not even close to representative of the English-speaking vtuber community

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>>2952830
cope

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>>2944863
Fucking christ. Those niggers need to go back to their shitholes.

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>>2951264
This.
>possum image
Nice taste.

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>>2942905
Because they are the most popular stable of western v-tubers by a pretty wide margin. People will say its because they interact with hololive and others on twitter or whatever but this is bullshit, the interactions are mostly mutual, its not like hololive isn't aware other vtubers exist beyond Niji. They're not Japanese, they're obviously sexually active or at the very least purity fags, and they do not fit the mold of typical eastern v-tubers pretending to be anime waifus to sad, lonely neets. Instead they pretend to be aggressive bitches to other sad lonely neets. And because sad, lonely neets have nothing better to do but get mad at what other people enjoy and frame their anger as rational for feeling superior, you get flamewars constantly. Hilariously as fucked up as girls are they somehow don't seem to get drawn into this. But conflict is inevitable. Personally I hope there is a big Vshojo Holo colab with all the big names like Korone and Pekora, just for maximum assblasting.

[Anonymous No.]

The man pretending to be a text-to-speech woman is pretty creepy, Ironmouse seems cool though

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>>2953178
Seethe.

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>>2953178
Dont forget the latest one that happened the weekend, Melody complaining about a game being islamephobic because its shows a muslim girl that says she is forced to cover up but she wants to be more slutty,.. in a porn game.

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>>2953667
I need a Nyanners x Matsuri collab

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>>2943277
Whats really ironic about the hate Vshojo gets is that if you actually watched them you would realize that the stuff they get criticized on here for is only a small part of their act. The ironic part is that they are the very thing they hate when it comes to the japanese agencies like Hololive. They are literally acting like EOP clipfags.

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>>2942905
Not mine, but are all of these true? VShojo sounds like a massive yab machine.

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>>2956375
Amusing that someone like Melody of all fucking people would want to defend the muzzies despite her being the exact kind of person that every kind of hardline muzzie would love to behead

[Anonymous No.]

Can we all agree that Ironmouse is the only somewhat cool one out of them?

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>>2953741
Isle 4

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>>2956771
Nyanners had no big yabs other than the 4chan fanfiction and if you believe that humans are incapable to change its true.
Melody has a deal with the Model creator that he jumped back on and pretended she stole the model. She tried to settle it behind the scenes but eventually she couldnt handle his harassment and opened up to her followers. They reached an agreement. The Dude seems to be a big scumbag that wanted in on her money now that she was a big earner.

Froot is a slut yes but I dont know the details.

In additon Zentraya is an Social Justice Skeleton but other than that harmless, considering her old design was something like an SS nazi uniform its hilarious.

Mouse is literally dying faster than the others and every stream could be her last.

Veibae likes to play with her coomer weeb audience.

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>>2958570
SJWs lack self awareness.
Just like how they're pushing for Islam and LGBT.
Whatever's left of their brains can't seem to process that these two are mutually incompatible.

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>>2958653
>SJW
>harmless
Your whole post now lost all of its credibility

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>>2942905
>English-speaking vtuber community
Don't confuse /vt/ with the above. Vshojo is well liked outside of this hellhole.

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>>2953178
Seems like Kiara would fit in. I wish she'd move there.

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>>2958705
cope

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>>2943985
what shit, was curious about watching this one too. 41% ruins everything they touch, just be a good fucking emotional muppet and keep your mouth shut

[Anonymous No.]

>>2958705
Kek

this is just embarrassing my guy

Even a couple of twitter spics could prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>2958728
4chan-affiliated Twitter spics, maybe.

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>>2958728

Twitter is Vshojo's home turf. I see one hater for every thirty people that love them

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>>2958772
Wrong. That's the Discord and Reddit hugbox.

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>>2958705
>>2958752
Vshojo as a name is seen as negative even from this post >>2956771 but the individual streamers themselves try so hard to deflect the faults of the other members of their group.

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>>2956771
regular schizo shit; it's the most negative take of each of their old issues, often completely twisted but mixed with enough truth people vaguely remember it. Easy disregard.

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>>2959210
cope

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>>2952897
pretty sure even the most unpopular vshojo discord has more members than /vt/ posters

[Anonymous No.]

They are whores. Men escape from those whores into 2D scripted and acted nice women but 3D whores don't give us a rest and have to get in on it.

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>>2948343
So they're like Gura. Cool

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>>2950821
Mousey literally does entire streams dedicated to highlighting indie Vtubers.

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>>2959220
take your meds, melody's "yab" is disproven by her own model maker, the guy flat out came and said that he wanted more money from melody because she was successful

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>>2943524
Apparently they were responsible for getting Nyanners the concert deal so that's something.

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>>2956771
Why did you hide the name faggot?

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>>2948343
>>2948343
>>2948343

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>>2961458
Nigga, the image is not mine.

[Anonymous No.]

They dared achieve success without depending on a honoraburu japanese corporation folded over a thousand times

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>>2942905
Some one said it before but it really is the huniepop of vtubing

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>>2958653
>BLM supporter
>Harmless
You consider ISIS an al qaeda supporters harmless too?

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>>2942905
>generate so much controversy in the English-speaking vtuber community?
Because they don’t let Koopa in?

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>>2966384
?

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>>2942905
>vshojo can some what rival holo in the western market
>geting dailies bashing thread with full of narratives
>njiji can somewhat rival holo in the Japan's market
>getting dailies bashing thread with full of narratives
hmm, i see some similar pattern here

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>>2942905
i do think there is a problem with Vtuber agencies being lazy and choosing to put scantily clad characters/ jiggly boobs in their streams so they can use the sex appeal to attract viewers.
I think it does alienate some viewers. It alienates people who are female and are embarrassed that their gender is portrayed in such a way, and alienates people who just want to watch a fun stream without titties bouncing everywhere, it can be insulting because it’s like the Vtubers think you NEED to see sexy stuff to be interested in them.
Vtubers that are dedicated to just being fanservice titty-fests like Project Melody and Silvervale are silly, though I won’t say that they shouldn’t be allowed to exist, I mean if people want to watch titty bouncing then that’s just their preference for the kind of media they enjoy (I cant imagine what that must be like), I only have a problem with it when they try to argue that these Vtubers are in any way good or entertaining outside of the sex appeal, lol.
I just think it’s kinda dumb to inject needless sex appeal into every form of media. Especially when it’s shoved into streams that are otherwise…uh, normal and fun because they have cool content I guess? like when Hime Hajime was made and they totally ruined the character by turning her into a weirdly sexualized caricature. They were just trying to make more money and the Vtuber seemed like a soulless husk compared to Hololive Vtubers. Everyone remember’s Callis’s big boobs and how she shows them off when she zooms in and I never cared about that because it didn’t detract from the rest of the stream at all, I still appreciated Calli as a character and thought she was cool. Actual thought and effort was put into making her an interesting Vtuber, and the titty is just an afterthought, as it should be if it absolutely needs to be in a stream. But a lot of Vtubers seem to go overboard with fanservice and it can be mind-numbing. They often use it as a crutch because the rest of the stream isn’t good so they have to make up for it by going “HEY LOOK TITTIES AND PANTIES!!!” (vshojo)
do I think it’s because the agencies hate women??? not at all, but I do think it’s because they’re lazy as fuck and can’t put effort into making something more creative and interesting without resorting to flashing SEXY TITTY!!! BONER!!!! ARE U CUMMING YET!! everywhere.
anyway that concludes my rant on sexualization in Vtubing, sex is cool and all but I can live without it being pushed in my face at all times

[Anonymous No.]

>>2966680
based and tru

[Anonymous No.]

The "English-speaking vtuber community" is majorly holofag tribalists so anything not holo is the devil

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>>2943219
/thread

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>>2942905
they get controversy because they do controversial shit.
mind you a lot of them are very old entities on the internet, all started as indies, all during a period where they didn't know any better and didn't realize how dumb and political shit will get in the future.
however like it or not, that kinda puts a stink on them and makes some people hard to disentangle them from their previous stated opinions.

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>>2967978
>so anything not holo is the devil
Indeed.

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>>2967978
>>2966501
>>2971132

>muh holoniggers oppress
Please don't use hololive as a surrogate for the allmighty patriarchy
these
>>2958698
>>2958668
>>2959826
>>2968778
>>2953178
>>2948343
>>2947227

Are the reason they're controversial
And this
>>2944212
is the reason why so many disenfranchised, disillusioned anons, newfags and oldfags alike, came to find and like vtubing in the first place.

Thots are abound, seiso is the new name of the game. And as all things pure and comfy, they get ruined oh so easily by those who seek to destroy them, if not protected.
As
>>2947278
shows.

And "maybe, just maybe" holos are genuinely entertaining to me, while I heartily ignore the other denizens of the board most of the time.
Let me blogpost about my favorite to round this bullshit off:
My oshi straight up rejects any parasocially motivated marriage proposals, love declarations or flirtatious advances from chat except when it's tendies day and I wouldn't have it any other way.
She even regularly collabs with MALES! Shocking, I know, since I'm a closeminded, lovestruck unicornfag.
After we have established this:
What differentiates her from VShojo?
Everything about her, simple as.

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>>2952830
Exactly this. The complaints I see from the mentally ill here are only here, its just retards sperging over 'muh pure JP oshis can't be tainted by the western whores'

Guess what JP cuck, your waifu has taken dick and probably is taking dick, no amount of superchats will change that

[Anonymous No.]

unicorn website

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>>2973961
Sure, that doesn't mean they should lower themselves to collabing with the unfunny gutter-trash whores in Vshitjo. There's a reason the only company willing to work with them is has been in heavy decline for the past few years