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>> No.29424954

>stolen from reddit

>> No.29424990

The pariah of Hololive...

>> No.29425064

>Mori
>Fluent in Japanese

>> No.29425195
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>>29425064
She had to. Or else she wouldn't easily teach...let alone live in Japan for years.

>> No.29425241

>Wigger
>Fluent in nihongo
lol

>> No.29425258

https://youtu.be/kNkmluT1nzo?t=870

>> No.29425282

>>29424820
Explain this then
https://youtu.be/Jj2JFtU7c78

>> No.29425314

>>29424820
she has standards

>> No.29425376
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Mori's japanese is shit
You should replace her with Axel in that diagram since he has a Japanese cover song.

>> No.29425422

>>29424820
>Howdy dess = fluency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WikHeG7DN4

>> No.29425426

>>29424820
This pic make me remember her unfulfilled to do list

>> No.29425547

>>29424820
Ina and Mori arent even close to fluent.

>> No.29425587

>>29425241
>The Tupac of Tokyo

>> No.29425605

>>29425064
None of them except kiara is fluent in japanese

>> No.29425807

>>29425195
I'm not fluent in Japanese and I've been living in Japan for almost a decade.
English teachers are usually not fluent in Japanese, they don't have to be, they speak English in class and the students are expected to understand and learn that way

>> No.29425879

ame has done the most karaoke streams

>> No.29425925

>>29425195
ALTs are not real teachers.

>> No.29425938

>>29425605
IRyS is better at Japanese than Kiara

>> No.29425998

>>29425807

To effectively teach any language, you have to be fluent in both languages. How would a person who does not speak Japanese, explain to a Japanese person what an English grammatical construct is, and how they would use it?

>> No.29426150

>>29425195
>This is what Deadbeats believe
Holy shit the absolute delusion, you do not need to know Japanese fluently to teach English and hanging out with English speakers who live in Tokyo

>> No.29426215

>>29425998
Why do you think English proficiency os so low among the Japanese?

>> No.29426259

>>29425938
IRyS has textbook Japanese while Kiara speaks real, ground level Japanese.

>> No.29426293

>>29424820
>mori
>fluent in japanese

>> No.29426346

>>29426259
???

>> No.29426421

>>29425998
Normally you would also have to have a teaching degree to be allowed to teach, and since Mori does not have that then you cannot apply the standards that are normally expected

>> No.29426471

>>29426150
This, it's like a native hispanic hanging with his amigos in SoCal assuming he knows english because he can talk to the local gringos. Imagine dropping him in the rural midwest and seeing how he fares

>> No.29426485

>>29425195
>ALT
>teacher
>fluent japanese

he believe this ? kek

>> No.29426490

>>29424820
ame sang that cute dog song in japanese

>> No.29426548

>>29426346
Yeah I am not sure if he meant that IRyS can only speaks in formal Japanese, and that Kiara can speak both formal and non-formal Japanese

>> No.29426554

>>29424820
Kiara is split 50/50 on Japanese/English songs and IRyS has way more Japanese than English songs

>> No.29426622

>>29426548
Kiara formal japanese is broken shit btw

>> No.29426626

>>29424820
>"Original song"
>Composer: *some other guy*

>> No.29426637

>>29424820
Interesting how this also tracks roughly pretty well with the emerged CLIQUES, hmmm...

>> No.29426644

>>29426554
Cover mandated songs for IRyS btw

>> No.29426715

>>29426626
Yes that is how most music production worked or did you think all singers write their own songs?

>> No.29426722

>>29426215

Because aside from not hiring competent bilingual teachers, they are also not using the correct techniques for teaching languages.There is a heavy emphasis on translating texts, which is worthless as far as immersion goes. Lectures should be split between theory (teaching the meaning of words, grammatical structures, etc...) and practice (forcing students to communicate with each other, in class, exclusively in the target language). As students understand more of the language, the emphasis on practical application should be increased. Have the students produce skits in the target language to act out in front of the class using the vocabulary they've learned. Require students to start asking questions in the target language. Etc...

>> No.29426757

>>29426622
>I know Japanese
Yeah anon of course you do

>> No.29426859

>>29426757
I have known her when she's 14.
Her japanese skill is same level as she was 14.
And I'm native annon.

>> No.29426869

>>29426722
They do it like that because it's easy to evaluate and study for, not like nips really care about learning english it's just a formality everyone wants to finish as easily and quickly as possible.

>> No.29426985

>>29426859
>I knew her when she was 14, and I am native
RUMAO drop the bullshit Kiaraschizo

>> No.29427052

>>29424820
I say it a lot and ill say it again
Ame has no talents
Shes a phony

>> No.29427153

>>29426869

Of course it's easy to test for if your test does not evaluate your ability to speak the fucking language.

>> No.29427226

>>29426985
because I watched her 1st stream in niconico.
After over 10 years I found her last year, and I'm impressed how her japanese skill is not improved at all kek.

>> No.29427350

>>29424820
Teakeks... Not like this.

>> No.29427370

>>29427226
>Still trying
You will never be Japanse, SEAnigger

>> No.29427372

>>29427153
Most countries' language education focuses on writing over speaking.
Not like learning a language just through school lessons even works, only students who go out of their way to consume content in the language during their free time ever come close to being decent.
Schools know this obviously and thus test language in the easiest and laziest way possible to keep their averages high.

>> No.29427373

>>29425807
I watched a video of gaijins in Japan. She basically said that if you cannot speak fluent Japanese after three years, you are a retard. And then there was a rapper who cannot speak Japanese after ten years.

>> No.29427413

Irys Baelz and Kiara are the only ENs that can speak Japanese. Ina Sana and Calli make an honest attempt but come on. It's like saying Watame speaks English.

>> No.29427439

>>29427373
Most American rappers cant even speak English so on a relative level Mori is a genius

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>>29427370
smd nigger

>> No.29427569

>>29427512
you're a weeb and you will never fit in

>> No.29427645

>>29427569
>Still trying

>> No.29427647

>>29427569
>already got a passport
>will never fit in
cope

>> No.29427710 [DELETED] 

>>29427645
>>29427647
>seaniggers projecting that their shitskins will ostracize them in Japan.

>> No.29427724

>Native tier
IRyS
>Weeb tier
Kiara
>Duolingo tier
other

>> No.29427739

>>29424820
>wigger
>Fluent
The only thing that she can fluently speak in Japanese is her Mc Donald’s order

>> No.29427777

>>29425195
The Anglo community in Japan is allergic to learning Japanese.

>> No.29427781

>>29427724
Ina is also at least weeb Tier, Kiara once said herself Ina is better than her

>> No.29427832

>>29427512
The fuck is going on in the bottom left corner?

>> No.29427905

Have you guys ever been to /japan or /japanlife ?
That's what being ALT (aka mori) like.

>never communicate locals
>be in english speaking community
>constantly circle jerking how bad Japan is

>> No.29428018

>>29424820
Of those only Irys, Kiara, and maybe Bae count as fluent.
The retard dog dabs on all of them though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvSKHYzB82M

>> No.29428063

>>29427905
>constantly circle jerking how bad Japan is
That part is just so strange
If you hate it so much just leave

>> No.29428070

Move ina and mori to the right, bae and irys in the middle

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>>29427512
>orange theme
Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.29428088

>>29427512
thats a suspiciously white looking finger

>> No.29428166

>>29424820
>wigger
>chink mouse
>brown nigger
>"""""fluent""""""
This is what EOP subhumans believe.

>> No.29428171

>>29428063
It's the classic immigrant whining. They move to another country and expect the natives to conform to their foreign culture then get mad when the natives want to live the way they've been living for centuries.

>> No.29428176

>>29428063
this but for american millennials

>> No.29428302

>>29426259
>this is what kpfcucks actually believe
lmao

>> No.29428338

>>29428176
That's the plan! I wanna move to Japan myself.

>> No.29428359

>>29425195
>live in a rich white suburban area
>grandpa drives her to school in a ferrari
>her parents send her money to live in Japan so she can learn the language
>she doesn't learn the language and just sticks with the people who speak english
>literally lives off parents' gibs and only goes to a part-time job so she's not kicked out of the country
>"boohoo my life's so hard, I'll write rap songs about having it rough"
she's the most detached holo of them all. But I don't mock deadbeats. Being pathologically delusional isn't something you should make fun of.

>> No.29428387

>>29428302
Yeah that is how having a oshi works, you end up doing very exaggerated praise of her, I don't know how that is so surprising?

>> No.29428417

>>29428359
>I'll write rap songs
Is that what those are meant to be?

>> No.29428704

>>29428359
>the most detached holo of them all.
I dunno about the other rrats, I mean it could very well be fake as hell info but the moment Mori did any sort of contact with Conner and Trash Taste automatically makes her extremely detached to the idol/vtubing world. No debate regarding that.

Everyone's opinion of her varies of course.

>> No.29428827

>>29428088
Its not white enough not be japanese tho

>> No.29428942

>>29424820
Why is Ame so useless

>> No.29429014

>>29428942
Because Ame is more like a A chan than well your traditional entertainer. Heck she's been recruiting for Omega in a good while now.

>> No.29429059

>>29425195
>this nigga actually believes that English teachers in Japan learn Japanese
KEKW next thing you'll tell me is that gold at the end of rainbows are real and not a myth.

Most of these people never learn the language because they keep themselves in a bubble of other foreigners.

To me it's a waste of time moving to another country and not taking that opportunity to become fluent within 6 months.

Sana never lived there for as long as Mori did, but went to a language school for a couple of months and she's leagues above Mori in Japanese ability.

>> No.29429113

>>29428338
do you have the work ethic/education to live in Japan? Be real with yourself here, anon.

>> No.29429927

>>29429113
>work ethic
Yes, I'm pretty good at pretending to work while browsing /vt/ on mobile

>> No.29430130

>>29426259
You don't watch IRyS's streams do you

>> No.29430377

>>29424820
Feels like anon's are forgetting the definition of fluent

>> No.29430773

Do you need to be from the anglosphere to become an english teacher in japan?

>> No.29431215

>>29429059
Reddit spacing

>> No.29431634

Ok, but who the fuck is Mori? You all been posting Calli.

>> No.29431638

>>29428387
>this is what oshifags actually believe
lmao

>> No.29431744

>>29424820
Mori is not fluent in Japanese she knows just enough so she can buy a bottle of whiskey and a cheeseburger.

>> No.29431790

>>29425195
HAHAHAHAHAH you're delusional cuckbeat

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>>29428359

>> No.29431896

>>29430773
probably not.

>> No.29432108

>>29428359
I can believe this, you don't become a weak person if you had to live through hard times, and the hardest thing Mori experienced is being Mori

>> No.29432344

>>29431638
>t. His oshi is /vt/
/vt/ is a whorehouse

>> No.29432619

>>29427439
kek

>> No.29432881

>>29429059
>KEKW
Thanks for letting me know to not read your post

>> No.29433015

The triple negative in OP is fucking with my head. Yeah ESL whatever.

>> No.29433523

>>29426259
https://youtu.be/igEPb_zZEmM

>> No.29434732

>>29425998
As a former English teacher in Japan we intentionally get people who can't speak Japanese, or if they do restrict it. The idea is to have them speak only english in a native accent so the kids know what it sounds like. Most teachers also don't want the assistant taking over the lesson by speaking Japanese themselves, god forbid the kids actually learn.

>> No.29434839

>>29425195
LOL, FUCKING TARDBEAT. MORI IS NOT FLUENT IN JAPANESE

>> No.29434931

>>29424820
>Amelia has no original music
Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj2JFtU7c78

>> No.29436031

>>29426259
Idiot. Stop embarrassing us.
t. KFP.

>> No.29436197

>>29424820
She's not an idol retard, she's just a normal thot streamer.
Her place is not on Hololive but that's no reason to bash on her.

>> No.29436250

>>29425807
How?

>> No.29436609

>>29434732
How common is for ALT teachers to correct Japanese teachers or to mog them

>> No.29439696

>>29425195
>aaaahhh naw roo hoe DOE, dawg

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