So what's the deal with Korone's accent? Everyone always says that she has some sort of weird accent, but I honestly can't tell the difference between the way she talks and most other Japanese Hololives/anime characters talk. Can anyone explain what exactly is so strange about the way she speaks?

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Anonymous Sun Apr 25 15:55:52 2021 No.2941200 [Reply] [Original]

So what's the deal with Korone's accent? Everyone always says that she has some sort of weird accent, but I honestly can't tell the difference between the way she talks and most other Japanese Hololives/anime characters talk.

Can anyone explain what exactly is so strange about the way she speaks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 15:57:13 2021 No.2941225 strange pitch accent with inability to pronounce Japanese "r" sound. That's about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:01:48 2021 No.2941326 her accent is really strong compared to the normal japanese so called 標準語 and absolutely different from other holo members or plebs irl in tokyo for instance. it sounds similar to some tohoku accent but its actually a mix of a few accents.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:02:30 2021 No.2941343 >>2941225 >>2941326 So why is it like that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:03:22 2021 No.2941418 >>2941343 Dogs have difficulty speaking human languages.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:04:46 2021 No.2941450 >>2941343 Probably where she was raised. It may be possible she's also deliberately playing it up as part of the character.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:09:10 2021 No.2941586 >>2941450 Nah, Korone's roommate has the same goofy accent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:09:21 2021 No.2941593 >>2941343 due largely to her grandmother moved to her ex-home and her father speaking some kansai dialect. shes lived in a different house now but still visited it for a few days in a week.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:27:26 2021 No.2942088 >>2941450 Korone's real voice makes me diamonds, she only uses it has a vtuber when shes angry or smug

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:30:38 2021 No.2942173 >>2942088 Doggo is Christmas Cake though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:33:24 2021 No.2942254 >>2941225 I believe she also speaks Kansai-ben right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 16:34:18 2021 No.2942286 >>2941200 >koone >nahoodo She's a lazy speaker and its pretty obvious after a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 17:54:44 2021 No.2944452 >>2942286 >Koone >a-to >na-ho-ne >da-de-na >oGAyu I fucking love Mr. Koo's lazy speech

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 17:57:53 2021 No.2944509 >>2941200 >Can anyone explain what exactly is so strange about the way she speaks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKWcCyD7GI She stresses and intonates the syllables differently than in "formal" japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 17:59:11 2021 No.2944528 >>2942088 Her voice sounded so good after her debut, especially when interacting with Okayu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGmc-l2zMc8

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:01:15 2021 No.2944579 >>2941343 Her family is from Tohoku but she grew up in Kansai, leaving her with an unusual mix of two very strong and different accents

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:04:13 2021 No.2944669 File: 211 KB, 691x615, korone daisuke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2944452 I love her so much. She's so precious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:05:28 2021 No.2944698 >>2942173 shes gay anyways why care

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:23:51 2021 No.2945119 >>2941200 "Lazy Speaker" + "Grandma's Kansai Accent" iirc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fEzGQPNoWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKWcCyD7GI

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:26:06 2021 No.2945178 >>2941200 I have a feeling japs would shit themselves if they could hear the plethora of American accents.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:27:28 2021 No.2945210 >>2945178 laughs in british

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 18:29:06 2021 No.2945261 >>2945178 Newfoundland...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 19:02:06 2021 No.2946067 >>2945178 >Glaswegian

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 19:02:56 2021 No.2946085 >>2945178 Suisei already got confused when different speakers in Duolingo would pronounce the word 'a' as 'ah' and 'ey'

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 19:07:07 2021 No.2946173 >>2941450 the way she acts confused whenever anyone mentions her accent is too realistic, like how everyone thinks they don't have an accent

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 19:22:23 2021 No.2946488 >>2946085 Well, in nip there's only one way to say a so its understandable. The way the same syllable might be pronounced differently depending on the word in eng sucks dicks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 19:42:46 2021 No.2946845 >>2944579 Damn that certainly explains some of it. Tohoku accents can get pretty crazy. That combined with Kansai-ben and then here lazy speaking thing is one hell of a combination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 25 20:24:45 2021 No.2947604 >>2946845 so it's like combining a southern drawl with newfoundlander?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 03:33:05 2021 No.2955367 >>2942173 No, she's full hag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 03:39:30 2021 No.2955439 >>2941225 You mean "l"? I thought japanese don't have "r" sound.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 03:43:45 2021 No.2955474 >>2955439 Japanese don't have "L"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 03:52:33 2021 No.2955570 >>2944509 I can't even hear a difference

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 04:18:51 2021 No.2955926 >>2942286 Towa too but she also talks fast so clippers have to actually work to produce a towa clip. She basically sounds peppy but drunk 24/7.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 04:20:06 2021 No.2955947 >>2955474 Isn't "ら行" "l" sound? It doesn't sound "r".

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 04:24:22 2021 No.2956011 File: 518 KB, 431x610, 41AFF9EB-C662-4D3E-A66F-45CF315C961F.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2955947 It is an r sound

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 04:27:40 2021 No.2956077 >>2946488 Git gud, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 04:30:16 2021 No.2956126 >>2956011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCZi6KozFU It sounds "la" "li" "lu" "le" "lo" than "ra", ... Or maybe I'm missunderstanding "r" sound...(I'm not native english speaker).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 05:18:26 2021 No.2956784 >>2955947 >>2956126 They can speak both L and R depending on the person but it's the same letter in their writing. Some of them can roll R and some of them say it flat like L

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 05:56:56 2021 No.2957353 >>2956126 Are you fucking deaf? She is clearly saying "R" sounds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 06:15:35 2021 No.2957604 >>2955439 >>2955474 L and R are interchangeable with a general preference for R.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 06:17:00 2021 No.2957620 >>2942088 DASHU, STOPU, DASHU, STOPU

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 06:18:04 2021 No.2957629 >>2957620 https://streamable.com/aweze0#

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 07:33:39 2021 No.2958803 File: 250 KB, 300x422, Build.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Korone is the one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmawqr1S_oE

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 07:46:35 2021 No.2958992 >>2956784 >>2957604 Thanks. didn't know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 07:51:01 2021 No.2959057 >>2956 When she says them at the start it sounds like an "R" sound, when she says then individualy they sound like "L" sounds. You can't physically roll L's so most of the time Japanese ら行 sounds like R's

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 07:53:21 2021 No.2959092 >>2942286 yeah, I was watching her current stream and she still does that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2ZHTIbGyM0

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:43:57 2021 No.2961717 >>2945178 But Japanese has plenty of accents and dialects too? What's your point?

Anonymous Mon Apr 26 09:59:15 2021 No.2962310

>>2955947
>>2955474
>>2955439
>>2956011
>>2956126
>>2957353
Japanese uses an alveolar flap. It sounds kind of in-between the scottish R and an L (the normal one, not the 'dark' one). That's it. Arguing over whether it's an L or an R is kind of pointless because what "kind" of sound a phone is depends on phonemics, which are different per language.

I'm not surprised that some people think it's more of an L than an R. If you're used to rolling R's, then the Japanese R may sound more like an L than an R to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:01:15 2021 No.2962360 >>2955947 The Japanese "R/L" is different from the English R or L or even the Spanish R https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_dental_and_alveolar_taps_and_flaps

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:04:24 2021 No.2962435 >>2947604 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1qyj8imreM&ab_channel=MakotoAmakawa I guess so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:08:09 2021 No.2962540 >>2947604 Or southern + midwestern

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:10:34 2021 No.2962610 >people discussing R and L while korone don't even uses it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 10:13:07 2021 No.2962673 >>2962610 English: [ɹ] Japanese: [ɾ] ころ語: [Ø]

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 11:24:15 2021 No.2964274 >>2962610 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3YJeCMifZI

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:04:36 2021 No.2965305 >>2962540 No, Tohoku accent is much stranger. Barely even sounds Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:11:20 2021 No.2965496 >>2941225 >>2955439 It's actually the ろ (ro) sound she struggles with. She says it's too much work to move her tongue that way, and it's been that way since she was a child.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:43:03 2021 No.2966170 >>2945178 let alone Chinese

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:46:48 2021 No.2966254 File: 31 KB, 480x401, 4C9F07FB-B0E2-4D6F-85F6-018E9EE5A16F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am fed up with all your bullshit and ignorance. It’s nothing but cooing to Okayu. Why do /vt/ always disappoint me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 12:48:41 2021 No.2966299 She's a dog.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 15:57:30 2021 No.2970360 >>2955439 Letald.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 16:44:08 2021 No.2971407 >>2966254 eh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 19:22:47 2021 No.2974690 >>2965496 She also struggles with ら (ra). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fEzGQPNoWc

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 26 23:35:14 2021 No.2983073 >>2966299 Only correct answer

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 06:51:42 2021 No.2993161 >>2955570 >>2944509 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKETPL0AqBY Here's everyone trying to speak Korone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 07:05:23 2021 No.2993400 >>2993161 intimidatingly accurate

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 12:33:56 2021 No.3001406 >>2993161

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 12:37:40 2021 No.3001523 >>2964274 I thought Korosan had a tutor

Anonymous Tue Apr 27 14:03:38 2021 No.3004066

Korosan's Japanese is original.
At worst, it is a pseudo-country dialect.
She assumes it is an imitation of her grandmother, which does not belong to any local. The words "orayo" and "dadena" are not used in rural Japan, but they are similar to internet slang.
Pecola and Princess Luna are more likely to be associated with the use of unique language, but overall, I would say that Ms. San is more unusual.

Also, it may not be known to foreign nikki that it is actually Commander Noel who has a real glimpse of a local accent.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 14:38:42 2021 No.3005022 >>2962310 Japanese L/R sounds like a D to me

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 14:50:37 2021 No.3005352 >>3005022 Are you perhaps a native English speaker?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 15:28:42 2021 No.3006274 >>3005352 Italiano, puttana

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 15:30:54 2021 No.3006317 >>3004066 Based nipchad. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 16:21:08 2021 No.3007734 >>3004066 Interesting. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 17:02:17 2021 No.3008834 >>2941200 SENAKA

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 17:19:27 2021 No.3009279 >>2956077 >Git gud, faggot. wake up anon it isn't 2013 anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 17:37:27 2021 No.3009757 >>3009279 >2013 was 8 years ago What the fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 17:49:18 2021 No.3010042 >>3004066 What kind of accent Noel has?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 20:14:22 2021 No.3014298 >>3010042 booba

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 20:29:43 2021 No.3014706 >>2945178 >when you're from a small county in Scotland and your accent is so thick that even other Scots have trouble understanding you Google cant understande speaking English but my shitty Japanese is good enough to get responses

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 20:36:12 2021 No.3014921 >>3014298 Come up with a new joke. Watch one Noel stream please

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 27 21:56:27 2021 No.3017305 >>3014921 succhiami il cazzo

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