Hololive moving to Twitch is a good move

[Anonymous No.]

i feel like Youtube is a pain in the ass right now, what's the reason hololive hasn't moved to Twitch yet?
i feel like this is a really good opportunity since a debut of an ex-holostar member mogged top streamers on the site

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
What about you move to Quora you autistic looking ass

[Anonymous No.]

Dumb idea because Jun and his faggy tribe are on Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Not many jp bros actually use twitch. The Ex-holomem you're referring to got raided on her debut, and then on her next stream did like 12K - 13K, which is basically a little better than Veibae.

Why on earth would Pekora, someone who currently does anywhere from 20K to 50K on YT move to Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592289 (Me)
This applies to other HoloJPs too. Miko, Marine, Shion, Koyori, Suisei, etc. Why would any of them use twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

post the screenshot

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592289
>>28592342
The dynamics are changing. Thanks to *that* debut being the top story in Japan a few days ago, many and many Japanese are beginning to see value in the Twitch and Western VTuber model.

[Anonymous No.]

Bad idea imo, twitch's troonbrained mods are known for randomly banning women out of fits of troon rage envy.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch is bad because the experience of watching archives is terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592415
They ban antis on sight though. YouTube allows antis to become mods.
>>28592434
Just upload archives to YouTube and stream live on Twitch, problem solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592403
I will believe that when I see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592289
20-30k by herself then a 20k raid was the debut
She was at 15k consistent views on her second stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592486
No, wer're talking actual twitch staff doing the ban harassment. There is no defense against that unless holo can somehow influence them directly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592516
Wrong.
55K on Debut
25K on 2nd stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592289
Twitch is designed primarily for live streaming, When it comes to content, Twitch is a little more lax than YouTube. This is because Twitch is geared towards live streaming, YouTube, on the other hand, has stricter content rules. For example, YouTube doesn’t allow any nudity or sexually suggestive content, even if it’s not graphic.
it has Twitch Prime that viewers can use to support their favorite streamers. Plus, Twitch allows viewers to make direct, in-app donations to streamers.
The platform has tools built specifically for gamers that make streaming a breeze, from powerful video encoding software to in-game overlays that show viewer statistics and other information. Twitch also has a vibrant and enthusiastic community that loves to chat with broadcasters and watch their favorite streamers play.
On Twitch, broadcasters are often more interactive with their viewers, taking questions and chatting while they play

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592554
Look, Nazuna's mods banned antis right away. YouTube mods don't have that power, only YouTube does. What more do you want? Seems like the yab-happy Holos should instantly jump to Twitch on that alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
>ex-holostar member
Which one? Kaoru, Rika or Suzuku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592600
>YouTube doesn’t allow any nudity or sexually suggestive content
>doesn't allow
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't a bunch of big twitch streamers moving to youtube? I thought twitch had fucked up or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592511
I can smell the gators and the bayous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592583
>25K on 2nd stream
Where?
https://twitchtracker.com/amemiyanazuna/streams/39497548311

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592342
as a dump to stop valorant streams from cluttering their yt channels

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592583
>25K on 2nd stream
Anon I watched the Apex stream it was a rock fucking solid 15k

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592705
The common thing is edited videos on YouTube and if you want to stream you stream on Twitch. Even if you've built up a following on YouTube through the years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592289
Like others have said, it's objectively friendlier for pure live streaming and has very few if any restrictions on what you can and cannot stream. It's also friendlier to audiences as well.

[Anonymous No.]

OH BOY
ANOTHER HOLOLIVE THREAD WHERE PEOPLE DISCUSS NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592705
No? Where did you get that from? More if any are solely using YouTube for video editing and VOD sharing. That's all. Not many are "switching" more YouTube content creators are moving to Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

good, now we have twitch shill threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
As a twitchfag since it was created, YouTube has become quite superior even though it’s not their main thing. Twitch absolutely rapes my computer these days and just has so much bloat while YouTube doesn’t. 3 years ago I would never imagine myself shilling for yt over twitch but it’s gotten real good.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll believe they're moving to twitch when I see it. They're established on youtube, moving to twitch with its plethora of issues when they've already worked out how to deal with youtube's issues isn't happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592600
Oh I'm not disagreeing that Twitch is the better livestreaming platform. I agree 100% on that.

I'm disagreeing that:

A. JP bros know that.
B. It's smart for someone who already has an established YT audience to try transitioning to Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch sucks cause it has no archives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592516
Where is the 15K number from? Because the one I saw was 13K. And I was numberfagging that day, so, I'm almost certain I would have caught the 15K

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
twitch culture sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592342
Miko and Haato stream on Twitch all the time, tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592962
Same here, been on Twitch for a long time and it's steadily gotten worse while Youtube has gotten better. Especially their mobile apps. Twitch is really garbage on that front with negative improvement. Japanese viewers are on their phones all the time too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592600
>YouTube doesn’t allow any nudity or sexually suggestive content, even if it’s not graphic.
Neither does Twitch, retard. If anything they're even more strict about it than Youtube. Kson outright ranted about not being able to show off the underboob of her bikini model during her Vshojo debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593196
yeah, it has some advantages, but their cancer culture is too much for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593148
Literally archive them to YouTube, problem solved.
>>28593196
There's no such thing.
>>28593250
Additionally La+ and Roboco are streaming on Twitch more than YouTube these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
>otakmori

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593321
There is no such thing as "Twitch culture." This is just your cope kicking in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
lol, go suck susan's cock, brony, youtube will literally terminate your channel for showing skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
Any form of lewd content is censored on YouTube though. If you're not properly clothed, you're basically risking it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
holotards are really low iq apes

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
She never said that Holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593449
> This is just your cope kicking in.
that's some nice projection, as expected from twitchfags. it has thousands of videos on youtube about twitch's toxic culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
lol, holofags are really fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593740
All of them made by pathetic losers lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593404
>There's no such thing.
>Has it's own forms of unfunny art, language, behavior which spreads across the platform
Ok dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592705
they're getting 8 figure contracts to do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
you suck susan's feet like you suck yagoo's dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
>Kson outright ranted about not being able to show off the underboob of her bikini model during her Vshojo debut.
Where did she say that Holoturd? I watch all of Kson's stream and she said her debut on Twitch was a success and can't wait to stream there more. Stop pretending you know things, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
Lick YAGOO's ass harder, I'm sure it tastes like cuttlefish and asparagus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
groomer

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>>28593835
You have to be an extreme incel to complain about simple bro culture and memes. The Holos will be fine on Twitch, and they love the idea of new people coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
Whatever you say, groomer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Because then they'll have to collab ban VShojo instead of Nijo.

[Anonymous No.]

Gifted subs are cancer and always will be
It's fucking disgusting that Youtube imported the one thing that lets vtubers build a closer bond with their viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>go to twitch
>lose half your viewers
good plan dumbass! they should leave their already established fan base to go to another platform and get half the views! very smart plan my guy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593312
It's funny how most of the successive replies to this don't increment the number of posters

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593550
>>28593849
Any form of suggestive content on Twitch even fucking innocuous emotes with the "-gasm" suffix on them got people's accounts permanently banned retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593881
>>28593648
nta, but he is right,she said that, maybe watch some streams insted of ranting from your ass?
https://youtu.be/ErX0KhraPxA?t=360

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594111
Proof next thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592600
Twitch is better for streaming but I hate their hypocritical management.
Either let everyone get away with shit or don't, stop picking your favourite thots to be allowed to do everything and banning everyone else for the exact same shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594142
YouTube is more trigger happy on bans. Stop lying. Your Holosluts will be fine once they migrate there full time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594098
Look at the dynamics, Twitch over time is becoming more attractive to Japan the same way NND was on the way out when YouTube was discovered as an alternative. The tide is changing thanks to YouTube's tyrannical restrictive nature where Twitch allows for complete and total freedom of what can be displayed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594196
I never said they weren't more trigger happy retard.

But twitch is hypocritical about them, the thots can get away with anything where as other streamers get banned for things they do all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive has one problem, any remotely sexual content will get mass reported by salty nijifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
No. Shoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
this fucking thread again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594005
>if you find this unfunny you're an incel
Whatever you say bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594306
Who the fuck cares? Do you think Niji knows what Twitch is, have you seen how much they've fallen off? There's a big reason why VShojo is their main competition right now.
>>28594289
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Because most of their audience is on YouTube and won't follow them over to Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594370
Touch grass or have sex, whichever works best for you. I suggest the latter since by your tone you come off as that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594393
most of their fanbase is on twitter, and will follow whenever she will post link to twitch or youtube stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592583
>25k
why are you lying ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594370
I'm not the one crying over people shitposting and bantering, incel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594393
They'll just follow them on Twitch regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594503
Yeah, you're even worse- crying about me finding twitch culture unfunny. Holy shit you're pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594583
>i'm not crying you're crying
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594467
Nope. Anybody that moves to twitch full time is getting fucking dropped from people I watch. Sample size of one, but I bet I'm not the only one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594269
>total freedom
good to out yourself as a vshotard.
you comparing NND with youtube vs youtube and twitch is retarded. twitch was one of the first livestream sites while youtube was ONLY video content. youtube is trying to be an alternative to twitch so their youtubers who want to livestream can stream on youtube instead without searching elsewhere to stream (twitch). on youtube you can say shit without being caught or banned while you get nuked on twitch for even one "slur". it's retarded to leave an established fanbase to go stream somewhere else because "twitch is becoming attractive to japan"

[Anonymous No.]

I will never forgive Twitch for turning Pikamee into a react streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593881
>>28593648
>>28594115
>catalognigger got caught lying
many such cases, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592289
Good numbers but my xqcL was foing slots gamba.. So was a bunker for his juicers on that moment.. Will see if she can keep their attraction

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594869
I'm not saying Twitch is becoming attractive to Japan though, it's just a natural upswing in Japanese users moving to Twitch. Popular Japanese Content Creator Shaka for example moved full time to Twitch because the streaming flow was better and has not moved back to YouTube since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Simply because Twitch is not as big in Japan as YouTube is, for now. There would most definitely be a loss in followers/subscribers/members. Better to take any sort of "transition" like an entire platform change slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Do you like forced minutes-long add breaks that the streamer can't do anything about it? And don't come with "just use add block" because not every single viewer will do and it just breaks the flow of the stream no matter if you use it or not. Youtube has it's problems but literally stopping the stream for some shitty Amazon add is not one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594796
I don't think a few guys on /vt/ is going to be a big loss for them

[Anonymous No.]

twitch subs just arent a good analogue to youtube memberships imo
also I think twitch is way more liklier to suddenly ban cunny than youtube is. yt has its oopsies but its decisions are way more consistent than what the twitch police are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28595397
Adblock Plus and Low Latency Mode, there, problem solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Miguel had more concurrent live viewers on her random stream on Youtube than on Twitch. Now let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593404
>Literally archive them to YouTube, problem solved.
Youtube already does this automatically, while if they streamed on Twitch and archived on Youtube they would need to upload the whole video and it looks like you have no idea how big the file can be even if it's a measly 2 hour stream. Either that or cut those stream into smaller pieces, so more editing time for them. Why do you think most of the established streamers on Twitch have editors managing their Youtube channels?

>>28595719
And you really think every single viewer will do exactly this? If you do you're delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28595397
>>28595719

[Anonymous No.]

>>28595397
twitch is better for outright streaming that's why the biggest Indies and male streamers are on twitch there are plenty of big youtubers who decided to stream on twitch instead of youtube because they know twitch is better for streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>28594379
>Proof
NTA but MissBehavin got a mere 3-day ban for bending over right in front of the camera and spreading her pussy for all to see. She didn't even lose partnership. If you need more proof than that try going on Twitch and spreading your ass to the world and see if you only get a 3-day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28596201
Shitpost or schizo rambling?

[Anonymous No.]

Pros and Cons of switching to Twitch:
Pros:
>if the Twitch team likes you, you can get away with murder
>can't think of any others, feel free to add your own

Cons:
>cancerous chat culture
>50%, instead of 30%, cut on memberships
>you still have to manage a youtube channel for vods anyway
>the youtube channel is more effort because you have to manually upload all your vods
>your vods will not have chat replay; if this was a zatsu then tough luck
>people who discover you on twitch may not check your youtube or vice versa
>many current fans will not follow you to a new platform
>ads are way worse
>many methods of trying to block ads result in a purple screen of death message instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
I hate Twitch.
So fucking much.
And all of you as well!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592554
>YouTube allows
Youtube doesn't pick your moderators.
>They ban antis on sight
Twitch bans you if people shit up your chat and you aren't doing enough about it if that's what you mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28593449
>There is no such thing as "Twitch culture." This is just your cope kicking in.
>There is no such thing as X-country culture, it's just a coincidence that all their people are acing in a certain way (on average)
Why are you so proud of being incapable to see simple patterns?

[Anonymous No.]

Glad to see you back today as well, Twitch Shill Schizo.
Now please do yourself a favor and join the 42%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28597911
I assume because people who stay in their bubble at all costs think that everyone thinks like them or else is a lunatic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28597911
It's western twitch users that are the problem
if they don't attract EOPs and use the moderation tools it'll be fine
do you seriously think the japanese side of twitch is the same? Miko holds watchalongs just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28598561
He seems to have gone to bed, SEAs have work in the morning you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592139
FPBP

[Anonymous No.]

>>28598888
SEAniggers actuall work? That would be news to me consider how piss poor they are. And I guess shitposting and shilling gets you enough to pay rent if it is enough for clipniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592600
Twitch will ban your ass for being insufficently woke which actually happens less than the evil random targeting system of the Youtube AI overlord

[Anonymous No.]

>>28599129
Shitposter calling out a shitposter you guys really are something

[Anonymous No.]

>YT chat is filled with block game autists and hugbox niggers
>Twitch chat is cancer
dyrbi

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
The appeal of twitch is Talent Freedom. Chubas can be less stiff and artificial, whereas on YouTube they bite their tongues and cower in fear of The Susan. This results in more entertaining streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28604421
Vtuber n° 196 talking about sex isn't any less artificial or even original. Both Hololive and Nijisanji already do this on Youtube, but you wouldn't know because you don't watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

not even going into twitch culture or community

>put music on youtube
copyright strike, 3 of those and you're out
>put music on twitch
only that portion of the VOD gets muted, most of your revenue was already made anyway

>use a curse word on youtube within certain limits
demonetized
>use a curse word on twitch
nobody gives a fuck

>show slightly risque or violent content
youtube: age restricted
twitch: no fucks given

Ask pekora where to watch her mgs3 playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like Twitch. I don't like the layout, the community, the chat, the cringe emotes / emote spam. I like YouTube more, it's simple and comfy and just feels better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28605361
>use a curse word on youtube within certain limits
Kiara says "fuck" all the time, so which curse words are you referring to? Racial slurs?
>use a curse word on twitch
She would be permabanned if she was on Twitch because she can't show her N-word pass.
https://twitter.com/irl_darius/status/1546326099939975168

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592516
She didn't even reach 15k Nazufag, >>28592777 . Nevermind the consistent 15k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28605361
nobody gives a fuck unless you pissed of a power tripping mod who is going to destroy your cosplay at Twitch con

[Anonymous No.]

>>28595039
Twitch is a strange land. I don't know what most of those nouns and verbs mean lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592705
Twitch didn't really fuck up. A few streamers are moving because YouTube is paying them a shitload of money to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
i dont want my oshi become low shitter react 'content creator'

[Anonymous No.]

>>28607780
did you literally forget about the adpocalypse?
>>28609329
losing restrictions does have its downsides

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592403
But Salome is on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Ah yes, I also want every chat to be filled with LUL and POG and MONKAS haha I'm so funny amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28605361
>Ask pekora where to watch her mgs3 playthrough
On youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/c/PekoSubs

[Anonymous No.]

>>28609879
not her channel dumbass, that's why they have to ask for game permissions

[Anonymous No.]

>>28610146
NTA but it would be the same on Twitch. It's a Japan problem, not a Youtube problem.
On the other hand, you can literally watch her playthrough on YT, her channel or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28610920
I don't think twitch has copyright problems beyond audio. Even if they did, they don't place your whole channel in danger like a strike does on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592403
She's already a 13k shitter, what are you on about, Nazukek?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28611282
A company can 100% prevent you from streaming their games on Twitch. Matter of fact, it's what Atlus did when they released P5. Only way for corpos like Cover and Niji to avoid the copyright autism would be to move in another country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Want an honest answer? Because Twitch is basically the BiliBili of the western world. Very popular in the west, not very well known outside of it. YouTube on the other hand is absolutely global.

[Anonymous No.]

I look forward to your oshi interacting with Hassan and his fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28595397
>>28595868
If you STILL don't have an ad blocker in the year of our lord Two Thousand and Twenty Two, you are a fucking subhuman retard and your opinions do not matter.

[Anonymous No.]

Why not both? I dont know shit about twitch but apparently they make contracts with streamers or something so as long as hololive doesn't have a contract with youtube there's no reason they can't stream on both, plus they can upload the twitch vod on the youtube channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Nazuna got similar numbers to Nimu on her outfit reveal, for some reason NPCs think outfit reveals and debuts are must watch special events

[Anonymous No.]

>>28618310
You're really terminally on 4chan if you think everyone uses adblock. But yeah, let's expect all 30k viewers of someone like Pekora to install adblock so they won't deal with the minute long, Amazon-forced adbreak that the streamer has no choice but to accept it.

>>28619117
>plus they can upload the twitch vod on the youtube channel
I'm pretty sure if they're partnered with Twitch they can only do that 2 weeks after the stream. But that's besides the point, considering the long streams they do it would take them way them way too long to just dump the 2+ hours stream on youtube. That's why so few streamers do that and just pay editors to grab the best moments for a compilation and upload on their youtube channels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28619117
Twitch is a vile place that is rife with western horsemalarky. You do not want the holos involved in that wretched pit of sluts and troonery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28619598
I dont care about the fans since most viewers would be their fans anyway, what I'm talking about is riskier streams like streaming with swimsuit models or playing more yab games

[Anonymous No.]

>>28619522
I do not care about 70 IQ kenyans and indogs who haven't figured out adblockers yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
Moving to an inferior platform, which will not only reduce the number of viewers, but also alienate VOD watchers and hide their content behind the flavour of the month e-whore.
Anon, do you have the rarted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28620777
>...most viewers would be their fans anyway...
Oh you sweet, stupid retard. That's not how that place works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28621560
You also seem to not care about what the streamer wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28592029
no