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28263634 No.28263634 [Reply] [Original]

hololive isn't worth watching without her

>> No.28263704

I have a debut tomorrow that you might be interested in OP

>> No.28263757

>>28263634
The real Hololive was the friends we were watching them with the whole time.

>> No.28263961

i disagree, nothing of value lost

i only feel bad for yasukami because rushia was a big source of income for him

>> No.28263984

>>28263634
Unironically, half of you motherfuckers didn't know who Rushia was until Cover kicked her out into the street. I'm not even joking, 99% of "Rushia fans" legit only came into existence when she got fired.

>> No.28264050

>>28263984
Legit the same as Sana. I guarantee you most people sadposting about her had never even considered sitting down and watching a Sana stream until she announced she was graduating.

>> No.28264097

>>28263634
Her streams were nothing special 90% of the time. Marine, Subaru, Mikochi, Korone and Haachama are waaaaay better entertainers. Rushia used the same crutches over and over and over again and it got boring fast.

>> No.28264148

>>28263634
She isn't worth watching in vshojo.

>> No.28264164

>>28263634
Mafumafu onahole

>> No.28264189

>>28263634
true, I stopped

>> No.28264447

>>28263984
99% of Rushia fans on this board consider her their actual wife and are unironic gachikoi and unicorns
>no way man I once opened a thread and I saw people telling me they were mad because she got fired for having a boyfriend
Congratulations on falling for bait you fucking retard

>> No.28264584

>>28263984
She was one of the most popular holomems that brought a lot of people down the rabbit hole. She wasn't one of the obscure ones like Towa or Flare

>> No.28264645

>>28264584
This. It's funny that people say that too when the Rushia general was one of the few individual holo generals to hit bump limit every time without fail

>> No.28264761

>>28264645
It was constantly on the brink of falling off. I would know since I was the one bumping it a third of the time.

>> No.28264766

>>28264645
Rushia general was also full of pictures that were posted a million times before and your typical concern fagging "Oh I hope she doesnt push herself this week and takes care of her health"

>> No.28264771

>>28264645
>This. It's funny that people say that too when the Rushia general was one of the few individual holo generals to hit bump limit every time without fail
The general still does. It's only fallen off of the board twice since it was re-established back at the end of April.

>> No.28264776

>>28263984
you are delusional

>> No.28264818

>>28263961
One day they'll have to make baa-chan dakis to make ends meet and I'll bring them out of poverty

>> No.28264869

i dont moon so i only new her through clippers clipping a scream or two.

>> No.28264912

>>28263984
This isn't true, she was a top ten Holo and most of her fans here have been around for quite a while. You might be right about "supporters" on reddit or comments on some youtube clip but who cares about them.

>> No.28264976

>>28264766
The images were bumps.

>> No.28265321

>>28264761
>It was constantly on the brink of falling off.
that was because of the unspoken agreement to only bump around page 9 or 10

>> No.28265441

>>28265321
The fuck are you talkiong about? Nobody on this board uses sage and nobody in that thread used it either.

>> No.28265449

>>28263634
Sankisei feels incredibly sour without her. Legitimately gutted.

>> No.28265481

>>28264912
>"supporters" on reddit
Not sure how many of those there really are.
She still gets the "ummmm askhually she was terminated" shit every time someone makes a post comparing her to the talents who graduated and most of them weren't even aware that she made a statement to clear up the rrats surrounding her until Cover posted a response, and even then, most replies seemed absolutely clueless as to what she had been through since February.

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>>28263634
I miss her mikecvck bros...

>> No.28265550

>>28265441
He's saying people would wait until it was about to hit archives to bump it, not that they saged the thread.

>> No.28265549

>>28263634
Based, Russell carried Hololive on her back.

>> No.28265576

>>28265550
Yeah which means it was fucking dead.

>> No.28265582

>>28265441
no as in the people bumping would usually wait until it hit page 10 or so, obviously if a conversation started they wouldn't need to bump

>> No.28265609

>>28265576
most other holo generals couldn't manage even that though

>> No.28265664

>>28265582
>obviously if a conversation started they wouldn't need to bump
And I obviously said there wasn't much conversation because the thread was always on the brink of falling off. How do you not understand this?

>>28265609
A lot of them manage just fine.

>> No.28265784

>>28265664
Which generals for solo HoloJPs are active enough in /vt/ that the can avoid archives without bumps?

>> No.28266049

>>28263634
That manipulative whore never belonged in hololive.

>> No.28266196

>>28265664
>A lot of them manage just fine.
Strange because as dead as the Rushia general was it was still more active than every other sankisei thread(I know that because I frequented them all because sankisei saikou) and that was the most popular JP gen

>> No.28266247

>>28266196
>it was still more active than every other sankisei thread
That's outright false unless you're talking about after she was fired.

>> No.28266256

>>28263634
Stop making threads then faggot

>> No.28266289

>>28266247
>That's outright false unless you're talking about after she was fired
No it's not. Both the Pekora and Marine threads were pound for pound less active.

>> No.28266463

>>28266289
Rushia thread regularly lasted for a week, sometimes even a month. You're just full of shit claiming it was more active than all the others.

>> No.28266554

>>28266463
It almost never last a month lmao, in fact I can't recall that happening even once throughout the majority of 2021
It also regularly ended with like 70 IPs

>> No.28266609

>>28266554
>It almost never last a month lmao
It still happened while that would never happen to any of the other threads.
>It also regularly ended with like 70 IPs
Not true.

>> No.28266651

Not to be mean but Mikeneko isn't worth watching either, I want her to collab with Marine and Pwkora

>> No.28266679

>>28266609
>It still happened while that would never happen to any of the other threads
You are either shitposting or have awful memory

>> No.28266734

>>28266609
IPs haven't gone up in the last 10 or 15 replies. Why are you samefagging so hard.
We know for a fact that there were about 25 regulars in the threads who actually owned her merch, and that obviously doesn't count the regulars who were poorfags, didn't own merch or the occasional casual poster.

>> No.28266768

>>28266609
>Not true.
The second Fandead bunker required the unbridled autism of sending in a timestamped pic of merch and it still gathered up near 30 users right after conception, you have brain worms

>> No.28266818

>>28266679
You're the one shitposting and spewing lies. The thread had so little discussion that one of the threads was a month old.

>>28266734
Why would the IPs go up if two people are replying to each other, you fucking idiot?

>> No.28266849

>>28266734
More than that, I know at least two users who made it in but told me they never voted, and it's not like I talk to many

>> No.28266880

>>28266818
>The thread had so little discussion that one of the threads was a month old.
Post the thread that lasted a month please

>> No.28266886

>>28266768
>muh bunker
Completely irrelevant since it came after the drama.
Also 30 is not 70.

>> No.28266936

Reminder that Marine and Mikeneko are still friends irl and hang out regularly

>> No.28266959

>>28266886
>after the drama
it required merch to get in you dumbfuck moron

>> No.28267080

>>28266880
Ok it wasn't a month. It was only half a month which is totally normal and a sign of an active thread.
>>/vt/thread/S2603713

>> No.28267198

>>28266936
I would sure hope so considering how fucked Marine got when she got axed.
I never liked Rushia’s screechy voice, but I cared about Marine being sad.

>> No.28267221

>>28266959
So you can't own merch if you didn't post in the thread before February 10th?

>> No.28267287

>>28266936
Marine will probably graduate soon too since she's known for hating black companies.

>> No.28267295

>>28267080
You had to go back 10 months before the drama to find that? Look at the time between posts. Up to 2 hours. If there was nothing to discuss, why would people post except to bump?
Your comparison is deliberately disingenuous. Why not post a few threads before the Discord yab and show the activity in the threads rather than a cherrypicked example from a time when this board wasn't needlessly fast?

>> No.28267470

>>28267221
If there were people who owned her merch that weren't posting in the thread, that only further proves that she had an even larger fanbase on this website than previously assumed. Anon's original point was that most of her fans here now only came around after the yab, when this is clearly not the case.

>> No.28267500

>>28263634
Which part of her did you like the most:
The manipulative GFE part where she actively baited lonely men into forming parasocial relationships with her so they would give her money?
The cheating bitch part where she was seeking a relationship of her own with another "man" while baiting those relationships?
The dumb bitch part where she endangered her employer and coworkers by leaking unfiltered information to a known dramatuber in return for information on her alien crush?
The egotistical menhera part where she suicide-baited on her socials when things didn't go her way?
Or did you just like her loud, ear raping, screams?

>> No.28267564

>>28267500
I liked the part where she made you (and I mean you in particular) so mad that you post this every single day. If you want to make it obvious, stop using the exact same phrases in every post and stop spamming this board, ok?

>> No.28267610

>>28267295
>You had to go back 10 months
Irrelevant.
>If there was nothing to discuss, why would people post except to bump?
For 15 fucking days.
>Your comparison is deliberately disingenuous
Your claims are deliberately disingenuous.
>Why not post a few threads before the Discord yab and show the activity in the threads rather than a cherrypicked example from a time when this board wasn't needlessly fast?
Because you said the Rushia thread was the most popular one. You're the one looking for a cherrypicked timeline here, not me. You won't find a Marine thread that lasted that long, because it never did.

>> No.28267689

>>28267500
>The manipulative GFE part where she actively baited lonely men

OH NOO MUH LONELY MEN...
WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR LONELY MEN...

Fuck off retard, you're speaking like a woman or a faggot.

>> No.28267740

>>28267610
>Because you said the Rushia thread was the most popular one
That was a different anon. Reply to him instead.
The only point I have been making is that the premise in this post
>>28263984
is wrong. Would you agree or disagree with that?
>>28267689
Just ignore that guy. This schizo posts this everyday in every thread about her. I'm sure if you catalog search the key phrase of his post you'd find dozens throughout the last few weeks alone.

>> No.28267811 [DELETED] 

>>28267500
>The dumb bitch part where she endangered her employer and coworkers by leaking unfiltered information to a known dramatuber in return for information on her alien crush?
Is that the newest seanigger narrative?

>> No.28267849

>>28267740
>That was a different anon. Reply to him instead.
You jumped into the discussion and took his place in defending the claim that the Rushia thread was the most popular one of them all.

>> No.28267907

>>28267811
That's literally what she did and nothing about it is new.

>> No.28267909

>>28263984
How is this even possible? Her chat was full of retarded EOP spamming tired clip memes during inappropriate moments. Everyone knew who Rushia was. She overtook Coco for top superchat channel until the graduation boost turned it over again. She was fucking huge, retard. It's not possible to be into Hololive and not know who Rushia was.
Unless the person in question is a chumpedo, I guess, but then it's just a Gura fan, not a Hololive fan. They also wouldn't be able to name the council members. Hardly indicative.

>>28267610
Ichimi here, Marine streamed today and just had the announcement that she'll be a character in Aquarium. Our thread died with 56 replies. /ahoy/ doesn't last that long because >we're too lazy to bump, not because we discuss so much. If there's nothing to talk about anymore, let it die. Whenever someone feels like it, they'll make another one. Or I guess the Marineschizo will keep bumping it with bait and replying to himself, that also happens fairly often.

>> No.28268004 [DELETED] 

>>28267907
Oh I thought she did it in revenge because Miko bullied her. Or was it because Aqua bullied her? Did the seanigger youtuber you get your info from make a new video changing the narrative to that?

>> No.28268073

>>28263634
Hololive isn't worth watching, period. Same with Shittysanji

>> No.28268116

>>28267909
>Ichimi here, Marine streamed today
Was I talking about how the threads are doing today? No.
I'm ichimi and I know the Marine thread was way more popular than the Rushia thread until it became filled with shit earlier this year. Marine not being able to stream for almost an entire year also contributed to it becomign what it is today.

>> No.28268218

>>28268004
Holy shit you're actually retarded. I bet you still tell yourself that all the chat logs that korekore showed were fake.

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>>28268218
You dropped this.

>> No.28268303

>>28268262
You sure that's not yours? You keep throwing these "you believe this!" arguments more than anyone else.

>> No.28268314

>>28268218
Oh so you don't know the actual reason, gotcha. (It was Cover employees spreading rumors internally about the talents and not getting fired after they were reported)
It must be morning in Jakarta.

>> No.28268327

>>28267080
>half a month, 10 months before the drama
Thank you for proving that you're posting here because you have a point to try and prove and not because you're interested in facts. I bet you think this thread is trying to shill rushia or something too

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>>28268303

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>>28268262
I don't get it.

>> No.28268383

>>28268314
She also said she had a fight with a senpai. Why do you ALWAYS leave that part out?

>> No.28268396

>>28268116
>No.
>I'm ichimi and I know the Marine thread was way more popular than the Rushia thread until it became filled with shit earlier this year.
No you're not, nobody who knows Marine would ever think that her relationship with Rushia was fake. You don't watch your supposed oshi.

>> No.28268423

>>28268396
You didn't even watch Marine until a few months ago.

>> No.28268524

>>28268423
Had a 1 year 6 months membership to her when Rushias termination happened
Go back, newfag. Ideally learn Japanese, too.

>> No.28268541

>>28268524
I had 2 years. You need to go back.

>> No.28268703

>>28268327
>10 months before the drama
Why does that matter at all? It proves that the Rushia thread was not the most popular.
>I bet you think this thread is trying to shill rushia or something too
How is it not? It's a blatant anti hololive thread claiming there's no more value in watching it because she's not there. Vshojo is now your favorite.

>> No.28268760

We have two combative gatekeeping schizos now? Cool.
My membership is currently 1 year and 6 months, can you both tell me to go back at the same time? That would be cool.

>> No.28268876

>>28268703
>How is it not?
Because the rest of us take our meds and don't jump at shadows you schizo

>> No.28268880

>gatekeeping bad!

>> No.28268963

>>28268541
>I had 2 years
Nah, you didn't

>> No.28269031

>>28268876
Yeah the threads during the drama show how popular Rushia really is around here. No other sankisei member compared to her and only a schizo would point out that it wasn't true at some random point 10 months ago.

>> No.28269048

>>28265664
>That Mel Choco Aki thread
HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.28269104

Imagine complaining about gatekeeping in a Rushia thread when the Rushia general used to have nothing but the Japanese name in the title and they constantly talk about ways to keep others out.

>> No.28269118

>>28269031
The funny part is I garauntee you I could go through the archives and find a Marine or Pekora thread that lasted that long too, or one that died before bump limit, and I'd probably find it having happened in under 16 months ago lmao

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>> No.28269199

>>28269104
I don't think the person bitching about gatekeeping was even a Fandead, but also I made the first thread with her romaji name in the title months before the controversy so this is a doubly stupid take

>> No.28269277

>>28268880
There are different kinds of gatekeeping, the way I see it. There's the "scare the normalfags away" kind, and there's the "not a true scotsman" kind. Comparing membership time and telling people they're not real fans because of that is the latter.

>> No.28269308

>>28263634
That's not Coco

>> No.28269343

>>28269104
>used to
That practice only began during the drama when schizos tried to destroy our thread and make us hate her. Not even harmless shitposting, they were spending hours on an extended character assassination that lasted weeks (months of you count the few schizos still doing it)
Also, the filtering must be working because you are aware that there is still a Rushia general on here, right? There has been a Rushia general for months now.

>> No.28269413

>>28269104
Japanese name is good gatekeeping. If you can't even read her name, then you absolutely do not watch her streams. You're only there to shitpost.
The fact that it even works as a filter is frankly surprising to me, but just goes to show how fucking stupid most of the board is.

>> No.28269425

>>28269118
>I garauntee you I could go through the archives and find a Marine or Pekora thread that lasted that long too
But you can't because it didn't happen.
>one that died before bump limit
Yeah that happens but they would still get another thread right after that would hit bump limit in about a week before the thread that has been around for 2 weeks is still around.

>> No.28269544

>>28269343
>That practice only began during the drama
No it began right at the start and then some EOPs/phoneposters came along and started complaining about not being able to find the thread every day until they got their wish.

>> No.28269599

>>28269425
>Yeah that happens
Holy fuck anon you are embarrassing yourself

>> No.28269660

>>28263984
Shut the fuck up nigger

>> No.28269715

>>28269599
How did I prove myself wrong, moron? A Marine thread that gets bumped off at 60 posts still comes back then next day and hits bump limit faster than 15 days.
That makes it more active than the absolute dead Rushia threads.

>> No.28269747

>>28267500
The cute streamer part.

>> No.28269789

>>28269544
It took quite a while to happen. The threads were destroyed by antis in the meantime. They still have trouble but it's nowhere close.

>> No.28269826

>>28263634
she got the treatment that she deserved

>> No.28269846

>>28269789
What took a while to happen?

>> No.28269847

>in top ten most subbed vtubers in the world
>multiple paypigs of her /here/ when /here/ is a small usually poorfag subset of the fanbase
>chat and comments spammed with EOPs, esp before HoloEN
>"NOBODY HERE WATCHED HER REEEEEE"
Demented

>> No.28269872

>>28263634
pretty much, i do feel bad for newfags

>> No.28269908

>>28269715
A thread that dies is deader than a thread that doesn't. I'm not gonna engage in the mental gymnastics required for youbto try and claim otherwise, I'll let people reading be the judge of how schizophrenic it is to argue otherwise.

>> No.28269957

>>28269789
I don't know if I've ever seen a general so thoroughly destroyed. It even got to the point that antis were trying to make their own OPs just to use "that" picture and this went on for weeks.
It's nowhere near the same level, but the Kanata general had to go down recently over that "drama", but it recovered in a few days. I have no idea where the antis and shitposters came from in February, but it's difficult for me to not notice the general decline in board quality after that.

>> No.28270035

>>28269957
>I don't know if I've ever seen a general so thoroughly destroyed
And people still bitch about the bunker as if we had a fucking choice to use the thread

>> No.28270038

frfr. doesn't matter if you liked rushia or not
for whatever reason, hololive went to shit after she left.

>> No.28270055

>>28269908
>thread with higher activity is deader than thread with lower activity
What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.28270313
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hololive:
>throws girls under the bus when ch*na complains
>fires talent over the smallest disagreements
>needs to spend millions of investor dollars in ads to push their streamers, otherwise nobody would watch. some still fail despite all that
>vastly inferior tech even after the """big""" 3.0 upgrade, lagging behind 1-2 years compared to indies despite having unlimited money but don't want to lose face because "muh technology company" so streamers aren't allowed to use anything else

indies/vshojo
>doesn't give a shit about foreign governments
>girls are free to do whatever they want, full creative freedom without some overpaid executive breathing down their necks
>streamers either succeed or fail, it all depends on skill. No marketing with cringy weird videos to create fake hype (at least for of indies)
>can use whatever apps they want for streaming, aren't forced to use trash proprietary apps

>> No.28270403

>>28270313
kson seems to be underfire though

>> No.28270417

>>28270035
go back to your pussyhole faggot

>> No.28270801

>>28270403
under fire by who?
SEA children on /vt/?

>> No.28270881

>>28270801
I think some people are disappointed with her decision to go to Vshojou, Im more doubtful of mikeneko being added to the roster but hopefully all is good.

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>>28263984

Rushia was first tier for popularity in Japan, and at least second in the US. A big deal, all around.

Time to resurrect. I'll be watching tomorrow night.

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>>28270881

The "some people" aren't her viewers, really. They are the ones malding over her Coco-enhanced-wobbly-boobs, yesterday, too.

Provided Nazuna can get her own JP loyalists onto both Twitch, as well as Youtube, I think she'll also be just fine.

>> No.28271269

>>28268524
>>28268541
>anons flaunting membership time periods over each other
Now THIS is the type of stupid shit I’ve been wishing would envelope this board more than anything else. Fat fucking Kek.

>> No.28271564

>119 posts
>39 IPs

>> No.28271659

>>28271564
Rushia antis on here are legitimately deranged and will samefag a thread until bump limit if given the opportunity.

>> No.28271921

>>28263984
I liked her death metal screams.

>> No.28272312

>>28263634
t.ranny who never watched her

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>>28270313
hololive:
>gave two girls a slap on the wrist. then pulled out of china completely when it was clear they weren't gonna back down
>fired two talents when they attempt a compensated dating scam and leaked information to korekore respectively
>picrel
>true; their tech is developed inhouse and definitely not as sophisticated

indies/vshojo
>most indies are too small to attract chink attention but vshojo is not (side question: how good is twitch's spam prevention?)
>creative freedom has not enhanced creativity in most situations as react streams are the laziest form of content generation. it just leeches off someone else's content
>vshojo is all cringe marketing, but mostly agree on indies. we can both agree the algorithm plays a huge role in any success on youtube though
>this is the biggest advantage that will likely never go away

Side note for vshojo: Permissions arc is likely to occur because new talents live in japan and are therefore bound by Japanese laws, draconian as they are. Twitch might be less takedown friendly than Youtube, but I'm not convinced on how long that will hold.

>> No.28273353

>>28273174
>gave two girls a slap on the wrist. then pulled out of china completely when it was clear they weren't gonna back down
they fired an employee who doesn't know or care about politics because she dared to say the word taiwan on stream. What more evidence do you need that the management of this company is disgusting and corrupt

>> No.28273509

>>28273174
Twitch as bots that moderate the chat so it wont like flood from the same user however there are some bots that are multiple accounts of hateful names that either raid or donate

>> No.28273642

>>28263984
based
EOP's only knew of her from her yelling clips.

>> No.28273920

>>28273642
Youbare the EOP here also stop projecting

>> No.28274056

>>28273174
Why did they write their slogan in English in an advert aimed at Japanese commuters?

>> No.28274097

>>28274056
英語かっこい

>> No.28274105

>>28273353
When they fire someone you know it. Because they don't get a massive graduation sendoff stream/concert or an offer to come back whenever they want. You know, like how Rushia was immediately unpersoned. Coco was hounded for months by chinks because Youtube is too incompetent to deal with harassment campaigns occurring on their platform. When she collabed with her friends, or they even mentioned her name, the chinks would target them too. She eventually felt tired of being a pariah and graduated. It was miserable to see, but that doesn't make the company corrupt. Incompetent at best. You clearly weren't here to see this shit happen as it occurred and have to rely on hearsay made up by people trying to push an agenda. This event is the entire reason chinks are universally despised on /vt/, we all know who was to blame for it.

Oh and by the way, she knew what she was doing. Haachama had done it earlier and realized the mistake. Coco did it intentionally to take the heat off her friend. Saying she was ignorant is a discredit to her character. You can't even defend people correctly. All you have is hate in your heart.

>> No.28274287

>>28274105
nice cope. whatever helps you sleep

they did it this way because they were scared about the backlash. is it too much to ask from a company to protect their employees and tell harassers to fuck off?

>> No.28274371

>>28273174
>Twitch might be less takedown friendly than Youtube, but I'm not convinced on how long that will hold
Junsgang will be there to remind them, don't worry.

>> No.28274634

>>28274287
>they were scared about the backlash
The backlash from what? The country they already cut all ties with and pulled out of? You don't even have basic facts straight here.
>tell harassers to fuck off
Your solution is to attempt to reason with brainwashed bugmen? This is all I really needed to see to know you both weren't there and aren't even making a real argument. Even twitter trannies know you can't reason with hyper-nationalist chinks. Educate yourself.

>> No.28274818

>>28274634
they fired her, hoping to calm the chinese down. when that didn't work and there was no other way to save their investment, they reluctantly pulled out of china.
>Your solution is to attempt to reason with brainwashed bugmen?
my solution is to NOT fire employees when foreign governments demand it, even if it means your business loses money.

>> No.28275195

>>28274105
>Oh and by the way, she knew what she was doing. Haachama had done it earlier and realized the mistake. Coco did it intentionally to take the heat off her friend.
>blames others for repeating hearsay
>peddles rrats that Coco herself denied

>> No.28275254

>>28274818
>they fired her, hoping to calm the chinese down. when that didn't work and there was no other way to save their investment, they reluctantly pulled out of china.
This is genuinely embarrassing at this point. HoloCN's shutdown was announced on November 12th, 2020. Coco's graduation was announced June 8th, 2021. Like dude... I can't tell if you are just being put up this because someone lied to you about the facts and told you to spam hateful shit, or if you just legitimately cannot read a calendar but damn.

>> No.28275438

>>28275195
Haachama sure seems to think it is true. Here's some food for thought though: Coco publicly denying she was doing it to protect her friend is a pretty good idea if she doesn't want them targeting her. Seeing as how the chinks are petty enough to attack anyone they can to get under her skin.

>> No.28277532

>>28275438
>Haachama sure seems to think it is true.
Ah yes surely a teenage girls suvivors guilt complex is based on a reasonable and well-grounded interpretation of events
Also she's never specifically said that either, so in the end you're still reading into behavior

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