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Why does this always make holotards seethe?

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>> No.27778934

OHHHH LOOOORD IM SO FUCKING MAD. MY OSHI CANT SAY THE NIGGER WORD!!! DAMN YOU VSHOJO!!!

>> No.27778951

>>27778858
https://youtu.be/cqFIcw8YE_0?t=1386

>> No.27778957

>>27778858
because we know what it actually means, aka react streams and getting involved in drama for not vetting your collab partners, but people keep repeating it like it means something else

>> No.27778969

I won't believe it until Kson says "faggots" and "trans rights what's that" a second time.
She won't.

>> No.27778994 [DELETED] 

>>27778858
You have creative freedom in 4chan to flood /vt/ with your shitposting threads everyday.
Are you happy?
I hope the new janny permaban you you fucking faggot! Thanks to you my Nijisanji thread died!

>> No.27779022

>>27778951
Fuck off pipa I don't want to watch your stream
Do a pomu instead and tits or gtfo

>> No.27779027

>>27778858
>Why does this always make holotards seethe?
Because that's what their vtubers don't have LOL

>> No.27779033 [DELETED] 

>>27778858
you mean laugh ?

>> No.27779038

>>27778994
jannies can't permaban

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>>27778858
because women are more entertaining when i don't have to hear their opinions

>> No.27779055 [DELETED] 

>>27778909
>Making cute voices and lying about your bf is not a "moral code"

>> No.27779059 [DELETED] 

>>27779038
Okay I will try to contact the moderatos at the irc, hopefully they stop this schizo from spamming the same shit threads everyday and we will have high quality posting back in /vt/.

>> No.27779069

>>27779045
so they basically don't exist

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I have yet to see a creative stream from anyone in vShojo. Its just a buzzword that doesnt mean anything.

>> No.27779091

>>27778909
Making cute voices and lying about your bf is not a "moral code"

>> No.27779094

>>27779045
incel take

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What have these creative freedom chubers done with that freedom other than copy what Ame has done?

>> No.27779116

>>27778951
Don't listen to this anon >>27779022 Pippa!
Post your toes first then fuck off.

>> No.27779123

>>27778858
Because they lack both creativity and freedom.
>>27779079
Good thing Vshojo isn't the only company outside of hololive and other indies exist.

>> No.27779124

>>27779055
>>27779091
Absolutely seething AND a tourist

>> No.27779129

>>27779079
>I have yet to see a creative stream from anyone in vShojo
No fucking shit, retard. Because you don't even watch them

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Creativity thrives best when constrained

>> No.27779181

>>27778951
It's hilarious how pipa always panders to the lowest common denominator by saying shit like this while at the same time taking advantage of that thing she's so against of.

>> No.27779194

>>27779124
please take a shower

>> No.27779193 [DELETED] 

>>27779094
>incel take
fucking tranny

>> No.27779212

Has kson done anything this past year that was more creative than Asacoco?

>> No.27779225

A set of rules that are constructed to control women from their whorish tendencies actually makes them tolerable

>> No.27779228

>>27779193
Sorry, not a tranny. But you, on the other hand, are definitely an incel.

>> No.27779270

>>27779194
Hit the weights

>> No.27779280

>>27779212
Why are you suddenly bringing up kson in this thread, holonigger?

>> No.27779295

>>27779116
Based
Btw seeing that even pomu used to be a whore do you think that pippa has posted her tits on /soc/ or /b/?

>> No.27779341

>>27779194
Hey look it's the take a shower guy. Why are you still seething bud? You've been at this arguing with random people for months now. Such a waste of time.

>> No.27779345

filthyfrank > kson
kson (and haachama) is just a lowquality copycat of Joji the Great.

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>>27779143
>Creativity thrives best when constrained
you're fucking right Migo

>> No.27779351

>>27779280
Because she is on vshojo and as an indie she had all the "creative freedom" se could have faggot

>> No.27779352

>>27778858
>creative freedom
>streams on youtube and twitch
You're a joke retard

>> No.27779362

>>27779280
kson lives rent free on their minds like any western vtuber against idolshit

>> No.27779376

>>27779228
YWNBAW

>> No.27779384

>>27779351
Yes, and? So why are you bringing her up here instead of other vtubers that also have creative freedom? Oh wait, is it because she's living rent free in your head? Oh dear.

>> No.27779414

>>27779376
>YWNBAW
Thank fucking god.

>> No.27779461

>>27779414
You thank God for being a tranny?

>> No.27779473

>>27779102
Ame is more of an embodiment of the vshojo creativty than hololive.

>> No.27779547

>>27779079
Ironmouse slept for like 12 hours during a subathon. I mean it was kinda creative in how shameless it was.

>> No.27779568

>>27779384
Because we have a sample to compare her when she was in a controlled enviroment and on "creative freedom" and there is no fucking difference aside from whoring herself irl

>> No.27779614 [DELETED] 

>>27779473
>Ame is more of an embodiment of the vshojo creativty than hololive.
vshowores are so fucking desperate Jesus fucking Christ

>> No.27779616

>>27779384
A better question is, what has vshojo done that no one else has done indie or corporate?

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>> No.27779661

>>27779618
This indistry was built upon idol culture and if you don't like it you can go fuck yourself and keep watching your western whores, just don't try to impose your morals on the thing I like

>> No.27779663

>>27779614
Why do you think she's so close to Silvervale?Ame is taking as many resouces from hololive to join vshojo.

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>>27779473
god damn, are vshojo fags really so desperate that they pretend Ame is in vshojo?

>> No.27779685 [DELETED] 

>>27779627
based

>> No.27779692

>>27779079
Gura's said she has ideas for videos but doesn't do them because she has to go through the hoops of getting them approved by management and that kills her motivation. That's not to say they wouldn't be approved just the process might get in the way. The creative freedom vhojofags mean is shit like the unhinged mental breakdowns zentreya has on twitter, which would be good for rushia.

>> No.27779693

For all this talk about creative freedom talk, I havent really seen indies do something more creative than Polka skydiving. Not counting the meat / guro chuubas who stapled their vaginas and put clothespins on their nipples.

Its all just been games, karaoke, handcam, talkshow and react content all of which are done in holo/niji

>> No.27779724

It’s well known that all women are childish whores who need to be controlled for their own good.

>> No.27779780 [DELETED] 

>>27779663
>Why do you think she's so close to Silvervale?Ame is taking as many resouces from hololive to join vshojo.
weeks, been hearing the same fucking ratt for weeks, you niggers need better fucking material i swear

>> No.27779784

>>27778858
Because holotards (which is different from regular hololive fans) don't actually like real women. They want fantasy versions of women that don't have sex drives, don't have independent thoughts outside of entertaining their fans, and are basically caricatures of what female human beings actually are. The moment a female vtuber gets creative freedom, they're able to actually express themselves for who they really are instead of the caricature that Cover pays them to play, and the sight of a woman thinking for herself freaks holotards out because it reminds them that they don't actually have control over real women.

>> No.27779788

>vshojo gives no added creative freedom
Your oshi can't do this holobros
https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1540393210287112194

>> No.27779805

>>27779693
Because they don't have the money?
You can't afford to be creative 24/7 when there's bills to pay and you're job is dependent on how generous or supportive your fanbase is feeling on a given day.

>> No.27779844

>La Creatividad
Any results in the past year?

>> No.27779886

>27779784
Keep your bait to a sentence or less or I won't even give you a pity (you). This isn't creative writing.

>> No.27779938

>>27779627
>christofacism
anon I thought you were trying to undermine hololive

>> No.27779962 [DELETED] 

>>27779788
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
I'm really happy that the camwhore gave her opinion on this, must hit close to home with the 12 abortion she had to went through already

>> No.27779967

>this thread again
>same autists
please new jannies, move hololive to >>>/trash/

>> No.27779980

>>27779079
nyanners did a tech deck stream

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>>27779102
Smh. When will Ame stop copying vshojo's creative freedom.

>> No.27779995

>>27779788
Oh no! My hololive girl can't talk about her retarded politics views! It's a shame, I love when women speak about politics

>> No.27780011 [DELETED] 

In order to get to know them, here are Mikeneko's and Kson's new coworkers. I hope you'll enjoy watching them collab with these people in the future. It's just a guild for whores who hate idols, vtubers, anime and Japan in general but still grift weeb culture and use anime avatars. It's disgusting.

I don't think I need to explain why nyanners is a terrible person since her reputation exceeds her, but something that many here probably don't know is that she cheated on her last boyfriend of several years with her new one, the one she lives with now, and her latest content is just her gushing over him and roosterteeth tier double-date collabs. Before this, she hid the fact she had a boyfriend by claiming to be a lesbian to milk paypigs, but now those fans that supported her.. err, I mean toxic incels should just deal with it

Froot cheated on her husband in the military and scammed her fans by not refunding their badge orders.

Ironmouse had a child when she was 16. She used to post about her and talked about her daughter and her ex husband in a interview that keeps getting taken down whenever someone uploads it. She tries to hide this now in order to maximize simp bucks while cucking her fans by basically being in a LDR with Conner from Trash Taste who has repeatedly shit on hololive members for being "lazy and talentless". Also did charity streams for Ukraine, problem being this "charity" has direct ties to the DNC and Clinton foundation, it's basically a laundering front for campaign financing.

Veibae is your typical unempathetic slut that makes fun of lonely people and likes seeing men hurt. She's the textbook example of a twitch thot slapping on an anime avatar because it was trendy. She gets off on cucking her fans and says that every female streamer actually has a boyfriend like her and she's the only one who's honest about it. She heavily referenced this towards other twitch streamers but especially other female vtubers, including Hololive and Rushia. She has open, sneering contempt for idol culture and all women involved in it, notably 3 of Kson's former genmates who are heavily invested in releasing music/performing on stage as idols, who bawled their eyes out at coco leaving hololive. I'm sure they're peachy keen with her throwing her lot in with people that openly hate and mock their dreams

Melody is a literal prostitute who used to do actual porn but now streams on chaturbate masturbating and using dildos for donations using her vtuber model and tweeting NPC political hot takes

Hime Hajime AKA Sydsnap is the wife of Gigguk from trash taste and while she doesn't stream that often, she has a large amount of control over the company and was directly involved with scams in the past.https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/Flying_Colors_Foundation (tl;dr it was a crypto rugpull/data mining scam that got shutdown once exposed but she totally didn't know anything about it despite being on the board)

Zentraya is a man that uses text to speech in order to conceal this fact. He deleted most of his old videos to hide this as well. He has broken down several tines because people generally don't want to collab with him. Also political sperging about abortions he'll never have

I'm not aware of any controversies with Silvervale

>> No.27780019

>>27779981
>WITH MY FRIENDS!
Copying mori of all people.

>> No.27780032

>>27778951
Actually a good take.

>> No.27780044

>>27779784
>don't actually like real women
Yes, I'm glad you understand. This is not news.
Real women are trash

>> No.27780078

>>27779805
You make money using your creativity if you have any not the other way around.

>> No.27780086

>>27780011
didn't read + L + touch grass

>> No.27780091

>>27779181
what are you talking about? she thinks vtubers make better content under management so she joined a company to be under management
don't be retarded

>> No.27780106 [DELETED] 

>>27780011
what could possibly go wrong

>> No.27780110

>>27779079
It means being able to do what they want, not doing things you want.

>> No.27780123

>>27778858
So what kind of shit girls from other groups achieved? Hololive is more memorable despite, presumably, having a lot of restrictions.

>> No.27780169

>>27780091
Yeah the fact that she is in a corpo is what makes her more interesting when she says something a bit too based

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>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *THROWS MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
> Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream?!! *PUNCHES monitor* who these WHORES think i am?!! i just donated FUCKING 100$ this YEAR!
> Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today... *smashes keyboard* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND! NOW I'M FUCKING LONELY

>> No.27780212 [DELETED] 

>>27780179
you vshitshows are the equivalent of "the left cant meme" in vtubing
Jesus Christ

>> No.27780230

>>27779618
>>27779627
I can't tell if these are troll posts or if Vshojofags truly lost their mind and believe this shit. I can't differentiate between trolls and real vshojofags anymore because of how fucking retarded vshojofags are.

>> No.27780245

>>27779079
Creative freedom is just a codeword for vtubers whose only content is reacting to videos. In vshojos case, reacting to hololive clips

>> No.27780252

the 774inc thread died for this shit

>> No.27780257 [DELETED] 

>>27780123
Creativity thrives best when constrained

>> No.27780281

>>27780179
Daily reminder that Vshojofags are /qa/ fags.

>> No.27780335

>>27780230
Trust and believe theres some nijiniggers having some fun and hoping the MITO shit goes as quietly on this board as her career did.

>> No.27780344

>27780252
the holoseethe was worth it

>> No.27780347

>>27778858
Women dont deserve that rights anon

>> No.27780358

>>27778909
FPBP
They just want to act like a camwhore in lieu of an actual personality.
> OMG she said pussy on stream!! How creative!! fucking DaVinci got no shit on these girls!!!

>> No.27780362

>>27780011
>I'm not aware of any controversies with Silvervale
kek she's so boring that even vshojo antis don't care about her

>> No.27780374

>>27780230
Unironic schizo posting. That's all. He can probably tell you about word magic and how you're praising satan every time you flip a monster can.

>> No.27780413

>>27780011
ok zhang

>> No.27780418

>>27780245
Pippa reacts too.
And you guys keep saying she's creative.
And it's not like react content is all they do, which you would know if you actually watch them.

>> No.27780430

I am the most creative anon in this thread/

>> No.27780445

>>27780123
less freedom forces an entertainer to be more creative

>> No.27780470

>>27780335
What Mito Shit?

>> No.27780493

>>27780418
The only person calling pippa creative is herself. Now stop posting Pippa

>> No.27780513

>>27780011
ummm yikes. i heard 4channel had some chuds but i kinda guess its true posting this

>> No.27780627

>>27779143
Well, there is a reason why avant-garde flourished in Russia.

>> No.27780651

>>27779022
did Pomu actually do this and can you help a brotha out? for science?

>> No.27780711

>>27780651
You're asking for what in many countries would be considered cp

>> No.27780747

>>27780513
There's tons of them, really shitty website. Where do you post usually?

>> No.27780756

>>27780711
oh...

>> No.27780766

>>27778951
I have resisted watching Pippa because I find her pandering (or at least the threadreader idea of it I have from never watching her streams) annoying. But this is a good take.
She says she likes Hololive, who is her oshi?

>> No.27780784

>>27780651
Sorry brotha but I got banned for posting kson's ass before and just got unbanned yesterday

>> No.27780787

>>27780747
Reddit and Twitter

>> No.27780806

>>27780766
watame

>> No.27780822 [DELETED] 

>>27780766
watame

>> No.27780836

>>27778951
Probably the best take from a chuuba i've seen on this matter. I'm telling you guys the whole "MUH TALENT FREEDOM" thing is gonna sell like hotcakes as a huge hypocritical turd very VERY soon.

>> No.27780854

>>27780806
>>27780822
based if true

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>>27780854

>> No.27780920

>>27780836
>soon
They post on sites that ban you and take your money away based on what your chat does. It already is retarded.

>> No.27780946

>>27780836
2 more weeks bro

>> No.27780978

>>27778951
right side of the argument but dogshit take. neither companies have any significant differences in 'creative' freedom. at best vshojo might allow you to evade copyright strikes or say nigger or something - even then its only at best.
her take was basically you have to have a template that you follow to make consistent 'good' content, neither of the companies necessarily provides this

>> No.27780994 [DELETED] 

>>27780836
JP bros aren't fucking ready for the shitshow that will unfold, they went ape shit at the idea of Rushia living with a twink, they're going to fucking combust when they see the kind of people she will be associated with

>> No.27781079

>>27778951
She might actually have a point. Hololive is far more entertaining, although I'm not 100% sure the restrictions are causing this.

>> No.27781104

>>27780179
Two can play this game, anon
>What? New project? Sure, just need to fix a few th-
>AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE IM BEING OPRESSED HELP ME
Truth be told, and you'll understand once you get experienced enough, all people need guidance. You cannot know everything. There is a reason why editor eats his bread, anon. My father was a chief editor, im fully aware of the amount of retarded shit some folks refuse to see in their "brilliant" ideas.

>> No.27781107

>>27780994
Part of me wants to write a fully translated to JP essay exposing all the horrid shit Vshojo and their talents have done and spread it to nipbros but I don't have the time or luxury to pull off something like that so someone here should fucking do it for me.

>> No.27781111

>>27778951
Tangentially, this reminds me of how pekomoom started to die after they actually did vc collabs and things got awkward.
The mentor student with language barrier context that their relationship began in is where it thrived, the second they tried to move beyond the bounds of that context and start pushing Yuri shit, it died.
Bounded contexts and restrictions are necessary to generate good content

>> No.27781112

>>27780978
>at best vshojo might allow you to evade copyright strikes or say nigger
If any Vwhorejo says this magic word they get a permanent ban and expulsion from the company

>> No.27781148

>>27779280
If you can't answer the question that's okay.

>> No.27781178 [DELETED] 

>>27781107
you don't have to bother trust me, Rushia's gachikoi will go full autismo background check everybody in vshojo

>> No.27781201

>>27781079
Ambition is the second, and probably most important part, of that equation. It feels more worthwhile watching someone or a company with a goal than one that's just aimless

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reminder that you can apply and clean the holoschizos from this board

>> No.27781245

>>27780011
>Ironmouse did charity streams for Ukraine
That's it. I know they are subhumans but then funding a war near my country is just something that more than I can take. Also fuck whoever support any side in this war.

>> No.27781257

>>27781112
so much for freedom.

>> No.27781273 [DELETED] 

>>27781218
thanks i'll be sure to wipe every vshowores tourist from this board

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>>27779693
Wait what Polka fucking skydived?

>> No.27781296

>>27781273
you got kicked from /jp/

>> No.27781329

Because you touch yourself at night.

>> No.27781371

>>27781107
You could translate >>27780011 if it makes it easier

>> No.27781495

>>27781296
?
>>>/jp/40456405

>> No.27781500

>>27779129
Anon, I hate to break it to you but talking about dicks and sleeping on stream is not creativity.

>> No.27781531

>>27781371
That's probably what I had in mind yeah. But I really don't want to be a full fledged anti so I need someone that's already soiled their hands to do the deed

>> No.27781537

>>27778858
It's funny because Amelia Watson is arguably one of the most creative Vtubers. Her ideas have had huge impact across the entire industry.

>> No.27781563

>>27781537
.....such as?

>> No.27781567

>>27779693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-01WuIdRzBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0pA6PsYzMg

curate your fucking youtube recommends and quit "watching" clips as if it wasnt obvious enough that you don't watch streams

>> No.27781568

>>27781531
Is not being full anti if you are doing it just to shitpost

>> No.27781606 [DELETED] 

>>27779129
>a compulsive lier
>a ttstranny
>a whore
>a cheating cunt
>nyanners
>a camwhore
>a woman married to an Anituber who barely stream
>Silvervale

rumao

>> No.27781611

>>27778951
Are all of her streams just regurgitating the most basic of /vt/ takes?

>> No.27781644

>>27778858
Because it wasn't creative freedom at all. She went from being one of the most creative vtubers I've ever seen to generic twitch girl whom I couldn't identify in a crowd.

Her creative freedom was "teehee boobs" and "lol SEX xd". Creative freedom my asshole. I've seen more creative ten year olds.

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>>27781563
do your reps retardchama

>> No.27781688

>>27781606
literally has nothing to do with their content. Just admit you don't watch vtubers and just use it as some badge for weeb cred

>> No.27781693

>>27779618
>>27779627
take your meds anon

>> No.27781722 [DELETED] 

>>27781688
>weeb cred
neck yourself

>> No.27781742

>>27780011
I always love it when Vshojo faggots defend this. I've never been much for le company wars but anyone who thinks Vsjojo and their talents are good is an absolute moron. They're hostile at best, scammers at worst.

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>>27778858
>Kson leaves Hololive
>tatsucucks claim she will be able to do all the things she couldnt do as a Holo
>does FUCK ALL different
You tatsucucks have such convenient memory huh

>> No.27781819 [DELETED] 

>>27781742
b-b-but you don't understand they react to other people's content and stream and say stuff like dick and cunt, they are so funny
nvm that they are as pathetic as the average grifter

>> No.27781823

>>27781722
please go outside and get some fresh air for once

>> No.27781890

Zhangs were right all along.

>> No.27781907

>>27781819
it's so embarrassing man. I could even sorta understand it if the content was good but it's literally "hahah SEX." It's unbelievable anyone would defend a company like this.

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>>27781823
I do, that's why i have no time to watch any of your whores

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>>27779618
>>27779627

>> No.27782000

>>27781907
same but with hololive

>> No.27782001

>>27780890
I love the pipper

>> No.27782042

>>27781567
Haato did it earlier

>> No.27782090

>>27778858
"creative freedom" to watch youtube videos and talk about sucking dick, real impressive

>> No.27782106

>>27779663
How many times did she talk about her as Ame again?

>> No.27782173

>>27782042
No, she did it after do your reps

>> No.27782184

>>27782090
also playing copyrighted music
and showing products without permissions
and playing games without permissions
and having an hard stance opinion on something

y'know, actual concrete things instead of meme arguments

>> No.27782198

>>27778951
I liked this clip before but now I just realized that that was a Eartbound track playing. Based taste.
And yeah, she is completely right. A company is a business. You cant just let young women who grew up in this toxic internet meme culture age do whatever they want when money is involved.

>> No.27782211

>>27782106
Just once, when she was asked at a panel who in vshojo she would Collab with.

>> No.27782274

now is your chance to take the jannie spot and clean holotards from this board

>> No.27782297

>>27782184
Use Audio Stock.
Nice copyright bait.
Nice copyright bait.
Offhand comment>>blatant opinion.

>> No.27782310 [DELETED] 

>>27782184
>also playing copyrighted music
>and showing products without permissions
>and playing games without permissions
>and having an hard stance opinion on something

and this is somehow creative freedom ?

>> No.27782341 [DELETED] 

>>27782274
try to clean up your own thread first lmfao, its embarrassing

>> No.27782365

>>27781644
>I've seen more creative ten year olds.
Do you watch "creative ten year olds" on a regular basis?

>> No.27782367

>>27782297
>>27782310
weak arguments tbqh

>> No.27782386

>>27778951
Based and true, if she doesn't have creative freedom she wouldn't whore herself out with tailor-made /vt/ takes and wasting her time shittalking /vt/'s Bad Guy of the Week. She'd just shut the fuck up and becomes cute funny kemono vtuber like Risu or Pekora.

>> No.27782401

>>27782365
Yes because they are creative, cute & funny.

>> No.27782440

>spend all day posting like you're going to take all hololive talents
>reality hits when Kanata moves out and you're seething about cover
Clowns

>> No.27782443

>>27778909
/thread

>> No.27782474

>>27782367
Anon look at Boris's channel 300k views average per video & still went bankrupt & started a new channel simply because most of his vods are demonetized. Hololive being paranoid about permissions saved a lot of them.

>> No.27782499

>>27781611
Not all of them but she doesn't really have any of her own formulated opinions about vtubers that either aren't heavily influenced or as you said regurgitated from the obvious places. It just is what it is for the EN side of things.

>> No.27782565

>>27782367
Doesn't that mean that hololive is more creative because even with those restrictions, they still can create creative content?

>> No.27782585

>>27782386
Pippa has her personality, and it's got some redpilled /pol/ in there that sometimes gets extremely risky for youtube. She visibly reins her autism in so she doesnt get her channel nuked. Obviously she cant outright shit on other corporations, just because it causes her corporation trouble. She nearly caved to chat in calling her vshojo role on reddit (she made a subreddit for shits and giggles then abandoned it) "VShohoes" but settled on using an eggplant emoji in front instead

>> No.27782687

>>27782585
Depending on your standard of "shitting" but Cover won't allow anything anywhere close to what Pippa does.

>> No.27782718

>>27778951
I don't really care about her /vt/ tier takes after she shat on Nijisanji and then tried to take it back once her fans pressed her about it. Not surprised to see her back namedropping yet another popular corporation and saying why Hololive is better (as if Vshoujo is some startup like PC).

>> No.27782808 [DELETED] 

>>27782565
they produce more original content than vshojo with way less "creative freedom"

>> No.27782888

>>27782173
anon?
https://youtu.be/-RmGyoORDlo

>> No.27782904

>>27778858
Vshojo members are not creative, they're just doing lazy react content.

>> No.27782910

>>27779980
That is creative indeed, but you dont need creative freedom to do that stream because hololiver could do it if they want to without jumping through any hoops.

>> No.27782921

>>27778951
pippa is actually the biggest manipulative cunt. It's not even RP she's just a grifter trying to farm LULs from low iq retards.

>> No.27782988

>>27782888
And if you're talking about editing it and presentation:
https://youtu.be/V30bbTLmiEk

>> No.27782992

>>27782910
hands were visible
copyrighted music used
the actual product needs permissions

>> No.27783029

Because it's only ever used as excuses and never delivered.

>> No.27783148

>>27781531
you're anon, no one's gonna know.
all you need to do is post in one of there threads, matome lads lurk here and will export it to them.

>> No.27783185

>>27781079
Most of the "restrictions" are to avoid Youtube going schizo on their channels, which is a legit fear with a lot of precedence.
Twitchfags just don't care since Amazon is too big to sue.

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Where's the creative freedom streams then?

>> No.27783285

>>27780470
she's been menheraposting on her community member posts, and rrats are brewing about a potential graduation after Mayuyu left.

>> No.27783291

>>27783029
non-vtuber streamers live it but vtubers who do the same don't use it?

>> No.27783311

>>27781288
She used the skydiving to promote PolDen merch kek : https://youtu.be/yLX10kccpU0

>> No.27783358

>>27779693
Eh plenty of indies do creative shit but they're all in Japanese so EOPs usually can't watch 'em : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=accpg7546Fc
> EN
is a dead zone for creativity.

>> No.27783366

>>27782888
I thought you were talking about the feet thing

>> No.27783378

>>27780011
>>27781107
It's funny how people got mad at the "nijifags" that harassed Aloe for daring to step out of line, and yet this board has been pulling shit like this for the past year and everyone is all on board with it.

>> No.27783396

>>27779784
>don't actually like real women
why the fuck do you think we watch anime women nigger?

>> No.27783532

>>27778858
Show me the best examples of "creative freedom" you have in order to convince me it isn't just another meaningless buzzword that you're convinced the voices in your head hate then.

>> No.27783588

>>27783358
You'd think doing vlogs as Vtuber will be easy to do with some editing. But it's rare isn't it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sZts9bcJYA
https://youtu.be/V0Zk55CpFEM?t=308

>> No.27783591

I'm sure restrictions on Hololive are more like guidelines.
Just like echi manga, editors make sure the mangaka does not cross Hentai territory so they can publish it along side any other Christian manga.

>> No.27783651

>>27778858
Because they're all retarded incel idoltards that think VTubers should be forced to only do GFE shit or quit, regardless of that they actually signed up for.

>> No.27783664

>>27781563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzkZa2Az7us

Too lazy to explain, but this guy made an excellent video on it.

>> No.27783696

>>27778858
it got coco to leave hololive for vshojo, so by their logic it must be evil, and make vtubers worse.

>> No.27783893

Let's see what creativity these non-restricted tubers are doing today
>Reacting to reddit
>Reacting to YLYL challenges
>Reacting to memes
>Reacting to Youtube documentaries
>Reacting to clips from other streamers
>Reacting to reactions
Fuck yeah, so creative and free!

>> No.27783908

>>27783893
>Reacting to reactions
You're joking

>> No.27783926

>>27778858
Because it's a marketing buzzword with no meaning?

>> No.27783992

>>27783926
you know there are content creators that arent vtubers that greatly benefit from this right? Imagine having to ask for permissions to trash a videogame like new world on release. Youre saying it's bad because lack of it makes your fav corpo look bad lmoa

>> No.27784054

>>27779693
>creative
I mean, if that's your bar for creativity—you probably think someone like MrBeast has the most creative videos. It's not creativity. It's like those videos of people going on a first class flight or ordering expensive meals.

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>>27783651
It all comes down to that huh.
You don't even have to act like a virtual girlfriend.
Thou shalt not have a boyfriend is a simple commandment. It means you're giving your full attention to your fans.
Agape is not something you would understand in your eros obsessed mutt brain.

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>>27778951
All these cucks watching Vwhorjo or NijiCN would never understand that anyway. Thank you Pippa.

>> No.27784103

>>27783358
This. JOPs are a field full of la creatividad, holo and niji included. For the ENwhores it's an excuse to degrade the corpos/popular ones so they can cope with their contrarian ass shitting on anime cultures while do e-thot shit and being excused for it.

>> No.27784110

>>27784054
More creative than making react streams

>> No.27784119

>>27783992
You're retarded Vshojo will have to beg for permissions if they get big enough in Japan

>> No.27784141

>>27779045
based

>> No.27784190

>>27784119
They think they don't need permission because Vwhorejo is an American company

>> No.27784264

You do know we had an era of no rules in hololive right?
It led to shit like Haato playing Yandere Simulator and cringing while chat was Cum Chalice jokes when yanderedev showed up.

>> No.27784294

>>27783992
Imagine thinking that's a Hololive thing. It's because Japan doesn't have fair use laws.

>> No.27784301

>>27779345
Faggot

>> No.27784342

>>27780627
It didnt
Stupid idiot

>> No.27784392

>>27779618
-First point: See Ollie, Matsuri and Mori. A sample from each branch.
-Second point: Wow, so you consider airing drama and openly insulting coworker you don't like as a plus? I for sure dont.
-Third point: they could take as many break as they want from streaming, to the point that hololiver got called lazy in this board

>> No.27784459

>>27784294
Fucking retard mutt kill yourself

>> No.27784651

>>27783588
I'm pretty sure it's not 'easy' because as you said many people would be doing it.
Interpolation, proper green screening and doing the animations/mocap, would all take a significant chunk of time and money imo.

>> No.27784699

>>27784119
You know, I could see them streaming games without permission on twitch.
Youtube is cucked by DMCA which is why the Holocaust happened, but I wonder if there'd be a big JP company willing to take on Amazon.
A Capcom v Twitch or Nintendo v Twitch would be interesting to see.

>> No.27784722

>>27784392
you're arguing with a propaganda poster anon, just fyi

>> No.27784726

>>27778909
based

>> No.27784886

>>27780011
That's a good post

>> No.27784897

>>27784459
Huh? Lol.

>> No.27784918

>>27784699
This statement could provoke the JunGang

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>>27778858
>Nijifag saying Hololive doesn't have creative freedom
>Amelia Watson: *exists*

>> No.27785004

>>27784699
You think twitch would fight for the streamer? They would just enforce the DMCA claim and keep on going.

>> No.27785036

>>27783992
no one 'has' to get permissions, they do it to protect themselves. There is nothing stopping a publisher/dev from getting anal and sending DMCAs to western indies on twitch, it's just not worth the effort nor backlash. That doesn't mean a loan autist couldn't decide to lawyer up hard if they got pissed or some reason, it's just very unlikely. Common sense and a little research protects against most issues but permissions is the only way to be sure you're covered.

>> No.27785053

>>27780011
Love how you're called an anti over something a post as diplomatic as this. You could've went way further and spiced it up with some half-confirmed rrats and shit. Nah, you went with only the easily verifiable stories and it's still too much for nu/vt/ apparently. This place is unironically filled with Vshojo shills.

>> No.27785081

>>27778951
Based, this makes the vshojo shills seethe.

>> No.27785127

>>27785004
I mean, xqc and the gang had no trouble streaming anime and master chef n shit.
Twitch can't really afford to antagonize their existing big streamers imo.
but VShojo probably won't fall under that, so just curious on how it'll go

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>>27778858

>> No.27785175

>>27785127
xQc isn't living in Japan and paying Japanese taxes

>> No.27785250

>>27778858
Because it's always used against them to imply that Holos don't have creative freedom, which is false.

In fact, it's the opposite. Holos are some of the most creative vtubers in the business.

>> No.27785304

>>27779693
Mito did skydiving aswell. And many bigger things.
You're just trying to hide your holobronyism.

>> No.27785323

>>27778858
Ame show invalidate any argument supporting this
People with creative freedom would never cared enough to pull something like that out of their ass

>> No.27785369

Is there any creative freedom content from Kson yet?

>> No.27785485

>>27778858
Creative freedom to do what?

>> No.27785517

>>27785485
talk about sucking dick
you can't do this in hololive

>> No.27785562

>>27779724>>27785304
https://youtu.be/2cjzu1UnoKo
https://youtu.be/o6-na8AVSqI
K-kino....

>> No.27785620

>>27778858
Do you think creativity means reacting to YouTube videos, sleeping on stream, playing games, talking about dicks and politics, and rubbing your anime pussy on chaturbate? Vshojo has brought zero creativity to the industry, even though they have "muhh creative freedom". Meanwhile, Amelia Watson has had industry wide impact with her creativity, and she's from Hololive.

>> No.27785640

>>27780011
>Unadulterated
>Full of facts
>No rrats or baseless, desperate lies attached
>Objective recollection of events and descriptions
The perfect atom bomb to drop on every vshitjo shill from this day forward until they're permanently banished to /trash/ for getting so uppity and not staying in their dumpster pile corner

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> Nijicope #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049).</span>
> Nijicope #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
Why are you guys timelooping again?

>> No.27785777

>>27785369
She showed her ass and streamed on Chaturbate

>> No.27785905

>>27778858
>>27781395
Idk which of these threads came first but clearly this discussion hasn't gotten anywhere for you retards
>>27782275
>>27783110

>> No.27785997

>>27780011
No hot takes, just straight facts with links to sources and references to media that's considered 'lost' by many yet sits here in one of my folders. Unfathomably based.

>> No.27786045

Talent freedom is nothing but a cope

>> No.27786098

Yup, I'm thinking that Creative Freedom is the new buzzword that's passed around just because it sounds good, but it does not mean anything really

>> No.27786219

>>27780011
This would be better if you put it in a pastebin and actually had links to all of the sources/backups of the sources to directly prove all of this stuff. Then translate that to Japanese and send it over to them.

>> No.27786324

>>27778858
>Why does this always make holotards seethe?
Don't think too much about it. Those mud-people will seethe over everything.

>> No.27786361

>>27786219
>links to all of the sources/backups of the sources to directly prove all of this stuff
NTA but a majority of stuff mentioned in there has more than likely been nuked into orbit or is simply a click and a search away with archive reps

>> No.27786497

>>27786361
I'm sure some people around here have got backups of it, the point being to compile it all so it's easier to just send all of the evidence straight to the nips.

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You all know the saying; "Artists must suffer"
Creativity is not fueled by excessive freedom. It needs constraints.
Only when youre low on resources, you have limits, youre not allowed to go all out, is when you start actually start using your brain and innovate. Vshojo might be given freedom but all that freedom is wasted on stagnating status quo
Case in point, indies who are forced to do things with their limitations

>> No.27787184

>>27786219
It's nuked already. Tungsten rodent's truth especially wouldn't fly here.

>> No.27788033

>creative freedom
>only does youtube react videos like other garbage twitch streamers
sugoi

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