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https://holodex.net/watch/Zl9yK4TUBHw
kson is doing a tell-all stream right now, might clear up some of the rrats on this board so people should check it out. someone's doing live english TLs which you can see on holodex

12:45 Question 1: Are you now owned by a company?
12:55 Answer 1: No. Souchou is still an individual VTuber.
13:05 Kson: All members of VShojo are indies.
13:18 Kson: That's the long and short of it.
13:28 Kson: So I am NOT now part of a company.
13:49 Kson: Members of VShojo include Melody and Nyanners.
13:52 Kson: There are quite a few girls.
13:56 Kson: All of them are independents.
14:04 Kson: They do whatever they want.
14:19 Kson: Just clarifying that VShojo is NOT a company.
14:25 Kson: I'll explain in detail later.
14:31 Kson: Through later questions.
14:45 Kson: There were a lot of questions, so I summed them up to put on screen.
14:49 Chat: That sounds sus...
14:58 Kson: I was also doubtful at first.
15:08 Kson: So, yes, I am an independent VTuber.
15:20 Kson: VShojo is all independents. We're more like family, just holding hands together.
15:39 Kson: Though this style might be quite unfamiliar for Japanese viewers.
15:49 Kson: So yep, we wipe out own asses.
15:55 Kson: We do whatever we want.
16:04 Kson: And we have our individual dreams.
16:10 Kson: We're all aiming for our own goals.
16:21 Kson: Of course, we're going generally the same direction, but we're all forging our own ways.
16:32 Kson: So, I wanted to clarify that from the get-go.
16:39 Question: Were you scouted?
16:41 Answer: No.
16:49 Kson: It's kinda hard to answer this.
16:54 Kson: I didn't take an audition either.
17:00 Kson: Nazuna-chan is also an independent, yes.
17:08 Kson: No, I was not scouted or headhunted.
17:19 Kson: Oh right, please do NOT clip this stream.
17:35 Kson: I'm setting that as a ground rule in case there are people who clip things out of context.
17:48 Kson: My streams are usually clippable, but not this one specifically.
17:51 Kson: I should put that on stream.
17:58 Text: Please do not clip this stream.
18:18 Kson: So, yep, I wasn't scouted.
18:26 Kson: How this talk came to me is a long story.
18:33 Kson: I was just doing my own thing, right?
18:52 Kson: And you saw a bit from my 3D debut the other day that I've been working on a lot of things behind the scenes.
18:58 Kson: I was looking for a venue for something.
19:02 Kson: And needed a system for it.
19:10 Kson: And the owner was someone from VShojo.
19:20 Kson: Oh wait, let me write this too.
19:28 Text: Opinions are my own.
19:33 Kson: That's important too.
19:49 Kson: So I was like, "Oh, you're from VShojo? Okay. Please take care of me."
20:04 Kson: I have stuff being released at Comiket, have my pop-up store, etc.
20:07 Kson: I have lots of stuff.
20:19 Kson: And I needed something that just happened to be involved with someone from VShojo.
20:39 Kson: During the process, my manager also exchanged business cards with them.
20:50 Kson: The other side said, "Oh wow, I'm so impressed with everything you're doing."
20:58 Kson: And I was like, "Hey, thanks."
21:12 Kson: So yep, I got in contact completely by coincidence.
21:19 Kson: I thought, "Wow, such a small world."
21:45 Kson: They shared what they thought about VTubers, and I realized it was really in line with my own thoughts.
21:49 Kson: And things took off from there.
21:54 Kson: So, it's not that I was scouted.
22:07 Kson: And neither did I knock on their door and go, "Let me join you!"
22:17 Kson: It's more like, I was doing my own thing, and our paths crossed.
22:20 Chat: Everything's so vague.
22:34 Kson: I can't help it, right? Going into any more detail would touch on personal information.
22:39 Kson: This is the most I can share.
23:00 Kson: This time, I'm doing my pop-up store in Akihabara MOGRA.
23:08 Kson: I found it after working around a lot of places in Akiba.
23:15 Kson: Correction: Not me. Mane-chan did.
23:19 Kson: Okay, next!
23:32 Question: When did you decide to join VShojo?
23:35 Answer: March 2022
23:52 Kson: I checked my logs in Discord to find this answer.
24:12 Kson: So yeah, it's not like this was decided all that long ago.
24:46 Kson: The VShojo staff was like, "We aren't very familiar with the VTuber culture in Japan. Please tell us."
24:48 Kson: And I obliged.
24:55 Kson: Yes, March 2022 is when this all started.
25:10 Kson: Quite sudden.
25:30 Kson: Was a very unexpected connection.

>> No.27460754

>>27460653
>17:19 Kson: Oh right, please do NOT clip this stream.
Yea ok

>> No.27460808

>>27460653
>17:19 Kson: Oh right, please do NOT clip this stream.
I would also be doing that with the amount of lies she splitting in that stream.

>> No.27460878

>Just clarifying that VShojo is NOT a company
yeah absolutely

>> No.27460978

>>27460653
>Guys, I'm not owned by anyone
>I just have to put their logo on all my merch going forward, obey all their rules, and do what they tell me

>> No.27461041

>>27460653
indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual indivisual

>> No.27461043

>has a website
>runs their own twitter
>opens auditions
>got models for people who hadnt streamed before or didnt have them
>presumably has contracts and a bank account
>excessive branding
>has management going on in the background
>but its not a company
sure

>> No.27461154

>>27460653
The moment Kson interacted with Rushia after her termination. I knew something is fucking wrong. So i was never suprised she was actually fucking Judas all along. Now what i am most interested in is how Kanata thinks about all of this shit. Imagine her feelings when her gf decided to join a whoredom, complaining about creative freedom and what not. Utter bullshit. Kson just wants chaos, thinks sex is funny and corrupts the company from the inside out. Now that she is deflecting even on her own stream, it further solidifies her sloppy personality and disgusting character of a unchecked virtueless woman.

>> No.27461195

>>27461154
thank for the pasta.

>> No.27461221

>>27461043
It is a company, but not in the way hololive is. The best comparison I've seen is people saying the vtubers are vshojo's clients, not employees. Vshojo provides them with legal and technical support in exchange for a merch cut. Of course there's still a group feeling between the girls, which is why vshojo has auditions and doesn't just take anyone.

>> No.27461250

>>27461154
holy holobrony cope

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>No one cared who I was until I put on the braaaaaaaaaaaaand

>> No.27461285

>>27461154
Kanata is probably happy for Kson. You should try the same.

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>>27460653
>14:19 Kson: Just clarifying that VShojo is NOT a company.
Okay google is lying!

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>>27460978
You guys think there are rules. They can't even get the bitches to stream.

>> No.27461305

>>27461043
Said website's Header is literally "VShojo - a VTuber Company"

>> No.27461312

>>27460653
>L24:46 Kson: The VShojo staff was like, "We aren't very familiar with the VTuber culture in Japan. Please tell us."
At least they admit it. So they're literally ironic weebs.

>> No.27461326

>>27460653
>I am not owned by anyone
Please repeat these statements and prove it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ofZ6uYDU0
https://streamable.com/8tmjld

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>>27461154
Lots of bugs around the past couple of day. Gotta spray'm all

>> No.27461374

>>27461285
he doesn't know the meaning of the word

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>>27461154
this but Rushia was the mastermind all along

>> No.27461521

>>27460653
What word did she use in Japanese? Because it might have a different connotation than the broad english word “company”

>> No.27461563

>>27460653
Well ain't this a spit to all indie vtubers.

>> No.27461636

>32:17 Question: Are your activities restricted by VShojo in any way?
>32:27 Answer: Not at all. No one have any right to stop me having fun!
>32:44 Kson: Melody-chan even shows her tits and stuff.
This is the direction Kson is heading in WhoreShojo cucks.

>> No.27461641

>>27460653
>23:15 Kson: Correction: Not me. Mane-chan did.
>Mane-chan
She has a literal manager but sure, she isn't part of the company or anything
She's TOTALLY still indie

>> No.27461646

>>27461521
The slide is straight from the stream, it's her translation. Can't tell you the exact word in Japanese but it's a public stream so you can just watch it when she ends the stream (still ongoing)

>> No.27461650

>>27460653
ITT: underage faggots who don’t understand setting up a company instead of being self-employed in order to pay less taxes

>> No.27461653

>>27460653
Everytjing seems so convenient and too good to be true.

>> No.27461664

>>27461521
Nigga are you blind?

>> No.27461679

>>27461331
>Criticizing kson makes you bugs
Ok retard.

>> No.27461705 [DELETED] 

>>27461331
I hate bugs and whores equally.

>> No.27461707

>>27461521
会社

>> No.27461717

>>27461636
She's always been like that tho
She literally shaved her pussy live on stream and said several times that she streams naked

>> No.27461729

>>27460653
>my manager
But vshojotards told me that the only way you could have a manager was by joining a company... Otherwise what other reason would the rest of the ex-members have to join vshojo instead of going indie?

>> No.27461760

>>27460653
Why is her English so shit though? I thought her first language was English. I swear she was better at it 2 years ago.

>> No.27461765

>>27461664
I’m dumb I didn’t look at the OP pic…

>> No.27461812

>>27461641
she's had that manager for almost a year now retard

>> No.27461879
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>>27460978
>VShojo
>Rules

>> No.27461916

>>27460653
>All members of VShojo are indies
>Vshoujo is a company
Bitch what
>>27461285
>>27461374
>Be happy for some person they don't across the ocean whose action have no effect or benefit
You people are mentally ill. Stop joining cults. They'll always be a bad thing.

>> No.27461926

>>27461879
Let's see her say faggot now that she's in VShojo then.

>> No.27461972

>>27461760
Japanese go in, English comes out

>> No.27461982

>>27461879
Very nice. Can she sing her version of moon man again, this time on stream?

>> No.27462065

>>27461041
why is her english barely competent now? she used to be better

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>>27461926
Let's have anyone say faggot in front of a 10k concurrent audience on Twitch/Youtube

>> No.27462140

They’re basically indies with managers for sponsors and stuff, and for Kson’s case apparently helps her with the merch, location to sell them and stuff.

>> No.27462147

>>27460653
>No, I was not scouted or headhunted.
>I didn't take an audition either.
Ye nigga you just magically appear in their hq and they gave you a job ye right nigga oh sorry it's not a job they are not a company ye

>> No.27462156

>>27462065
Because she is not using it. She doesn't even stream in English

>> No.27462209

>>27462140
>They’re basically indies with managers for sponsors
>sponsors
>no audition
>not scouted or headhunted
>sponsor literally agree yea you can hire anyone we will give you the money
.....

>> No.27462217

>>27462131
Oh, you mean what she did when she was in hololive? >>27461326

>> No.27462220

>>27462147
>And I needed something that just happened to be involved with someone from VShojo.
>During the process, my manager also exchanged business cards with them.
>The other side said, "Oh wow, I'm so impressed with everything you're doing."
>And I was like, "Hey, thanks."
>So yep, I got in contact completely by coincidence.
It was a coincidence

>> No.27462260

>Wants the credit of an indie while under VShojo
I've never seen such a huge fucking narcissist.

>> No.27462275

>>27462147
she explained how they met
watch all before type your shit niga

>> No.27462326

>>27462065
she's retarded

>> No.27462331

>I am not owned by anyone
>Sponsor give money to produce your merch
>NOT OWNED BY ANYONE
Yes no contract you are free to do anything! We just label you as vshojo that's all folks!
Can someone prepare her a script before she talk shit on stream?
That's very unprofessional and its like she's ridiculing her audience like they are underage dumbfucks that never faced the rat-raced society before.

>> No.27462348

>>27462209
Yes? Look at the top streamers, they all have managers that deal with the business side of things. Shroud is with Loaded.gg, vshojo is just like that but for vtubers

>> No.27462377

>>27461636
Coco was like that to an extent even in Hololive? Even Erolive was a thing.

>> No.27462378

>>27462220
>>27462275
WOW WOW NO ONE ASKED ME TO JOIN AND I JUST MAGICALLY JOINED DEFINITELY NOT RECRUITED ITS ALL MAGIC JESUS CHRIST MAKE IT HAPPENED

>> No.27462382

>>27461154
Kson is whore. Female version of playboy. Not supporting whore with my time or money but whore is not a big deal.

Rushia is a fucking backstabber. Dm and suicide baits. Lowest of low.

>> No.27462384

>>27462260
She probably believes the whole story that they're just a group of independent streamers, I guess she's right for now since their auditions utterly failed so it's still just the original group

>> No.27462412

>>27462147
>>27462220
Those Vshojo auditions were even more bullshit than the Hololive auditions, like Gamers literally being a friend of a friend of a friend getting in, or Ina -> Sana.

>> No.27462433
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27462433

>VShojo loves V-Tuber culture.
I mean I get you have to make them look good to the Japanese but why are you so blatantly lying to the EOP's who already know about VShojo?

>> No.27462451

>>27462348
people recruit top streamer to join their company
kson is a top performing streamer/ vtuber so what's your point?
vshojo definitely asked her to join their company and told her she's free to do anything she wanted and told her to sign SOMETHING.

>> No.27462455

>>27462378
fucking retard
kill yourself

>> No.27462470
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Her English is so bad now, it's actually laughable.

>> No.27462500

>>27461285
you should just try being happy for someone who's actively trying to destroy everything you love guys, just stop being so #toxic

>> No.27462507

>>27462451
>she's free to do anything she wanted
She just needs to sell her soul away to the woke faggots.

>> No.27462511

>>27462470
she would fit here.

>> No.27462519

>>27462470
Yeah, she is an ESL what do you expect? Even our ESL anons on this board are not good at English either.

>> No.27462531

>>27462217
A goalpost-moving ching chong ding dong ping pong to you as well, my comrade!

>> No.27462567

>>27462455
I'll make it simple for you to understand without any sarcasm, she got recruited by vshojo to join they signed a contract promising her she's free to do anything she wanted and they will take a cut from her merch sales and she's happy with it so she signed a contract and joined the company, everything she said in her stream is bullshit. I don't understand why she need to lie so blatantly on stream, no one is going to get mad about her joining vshojo, I'm actually happy for her she's going to earn alot of money. You get my point? Now reply with a constructive sentence instead of some hoorah your dad teached you when you are a kid.

>> No.27462637

>>27461982
>>27461926
I don't have any real horse in this race, but I don't think not being able to do stuff like that is exclusive to corporations?
"A streamer said something controversial so the rest of a group they were in kicked them out" is the kind of thing that happens regularly, after all.

>> No.27462677

>>27460653
lmao nigga who cares about this fat hag anymore

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>>27460653

>> No.27462715

>>27462519
>she is an ESL what do you expect?
Pretty sure her English used to be better than her Japanese. There's a stream of her watching one of her older KSON streams back and she's cringing at how bad it was back then.

>> No.27462730

>>27462451
Yes, they’re basically indies with managers. When has a top streamer been stopped by their company’s agent? Basically 0. Why? Because they hold all the cards, the minute vshojo management steps in they can be told to fuck off because all they are contracted to do are find sponsorships, and make merch. This is not the case with most vtuber companies and is the reason why kson says it’s not really a company in the sense of hololive/any jp company.

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27462749

>the holokek cope in this thread after kson humiliated their company

>> No.27462789

>>27462567
It still doesn’t make much sense. She already has freedom as an Indie, she’s already well known, what can Vshojo offer besides a great advance payment and a shot of potential controversy in the spotlight?

>> No.27462800

>>27461636
Newfag

>> No.27462802

>>27462519
>she is an ESL
She was born and raised in the US. Do your roommate reps.

>> No.27462836

>>27462567
>I don't understand why she need to lie so blatantly on stream, no one is going to get mad about her joining vshojo
I agree with your other points but you need to understand that she is trying to clarify things with her Japanese audiences. Also, she pointed out that the concept of Company culture/method in Japan is extremely different and Alien when compare with Vshojo.

>> No.27462845

>>27462749
Hololive reject.

>> No.27462882 [DELETED] 

>>27460878
>>27461043
>>27461154
>>27461221
>>27461297
>>27461305
>>27461521
>>27461641
>>27461650
>>27461729
>>27462685
BUGMEN BUGMEN YOU'RE ALL BUGMEN BECAUSE ONLY BUGMEN COULD EVER SAY SHE LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.27462885

>>27462519
She's from Atlanta you fucking tard

>> No.27462891

>>27462433
>make them look good to the Japanese
Japanese are more judgemental than EOPs. They have lower tolerance for twitch sluts. I think.

I mean, AKB48 member with scandal has to shave her head as apology.

>> No.27462893

>>27462836
She's lying to her Japanese audience.

>> No.27462894

>>27462730
>Because they hold all the cards
Not until they breached the contract.
And I'm pretty sure there's some clause in that thick document that mentioned to never start any political bullshit, especially against China.

>> No.27462896

>>27462789
she wants to create JP branch, using her power to bring those who are sic of japanese black company rules, be afraid your oshi will switch sides

>> No.27462922

>>27462802
ESL works both ways depending on which language you primarily use. Take a good look at Coco's debut and now she clearly speaks better Japanese.

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>>27461154
>joining another company after getting fired is being Judas
How can one achieve such level of corporate cuckoldry?

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>>27462882

>> No.27462941

>>27462567
If she's so eager to lie to our faces I wonder what else she's lied about in the past.

>> No.27462990

>>27462885
She's from Dunwoody, tard.

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>>27462941
It's all in your schizo mind ain't it? Medicate yourself, please.

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I guess "not a company" thing could make it possible for Mike to be the next Vshojo. I still think it's a bad idea and she should just like permanently unplug from the internet but I wish her the best of luck. Assuming that is true in the first place. Interesting times to be had ahead for everyone for sure.

>> No.27463018

>>27462331
>NOT OWNED BY ANYONE
This is just your typical whore cope. "Yeah I have sex with men for money but these men don't own me, I have sex because I want to!"

>> No.27463026

>>27462925
Anon that is an Holofag and their brains can only understand that any vtuber who not in Hololive is evil

>> No.27463038

Pink cat won

>> No.27463056

>>27462925
that's what too much corporatism and brand loyalty makes with your brain.

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>VShojo loves V-Tuber culture!
>One of the first members is someone who wished unhappiness on all the other members and leaked stuff to a drama Youtuber.

>> No.27463071

>>27460653
34:52 Question: What even is VShojo in the first place? What kind of organization is it?
35:26 Answer: It's a group of incredible tech specialists who love VTuber culture.
35:40 Kson: They're just simps.
35:43 Kson: They love VTubers.
35:46 Kson: They love this industry.
35:48 Kson: They love anime.
35:52 Kson: And they know tech.
35:57 Kson: They're absolute pros.
36:16 Kson: They told me, "Oh right, this guy made that system."
36:21 Kson: Totally knocked my socks off.
36:38 Kson: And these are ppl who absolutely love Japan and the VTuber culture in general.
36:52 Kson: They pretty much have all their stat points assigned to "tech."
37:04 Chat: So they have monetary capital to do whatever they want
37:07 Kson: That's true too.
37:28 Kson: So yea, it's a group of super incredible people.
37:35 Kson: There's a story I told the members last night.
37:48 Kson: I had a collab I was doing with Melody-chan this one time.
37:56 Kson: Back when I wasn't in contact with VShojo at all.
38:00 Kson: I was just collabing with her as a friend.
38:10 Kson: There was a member of VShojo staff mediating things.
38:29 Kson: I was preparing things with Melody-chan.
38:37 Kson: But Discord completely died, for some reason.
38:47 Kson: Don't know if you remember that time.
38:56 Kson: I happened to be in contact with Melody-chan at the time.
39:06 Kson: And was really troubled.
39:13 Kson: So I reached out through Twitter DMs.
39:43 Kson: The staff (was actually the CEO) was like, "Oh, okay."
39:55 Kson: "Discord is down? I'll whip something up similar to Discord."
39:58 Kson: He did it in 5 mins.
40:05 Kson: And it could be used to stream.
40:15 Kson: It was scary, seriously.
40:27 Kson: So yeah, this is the kind of person with VShojo.
40:54 Kson: He said, "This is just temporary, but you should be able to use it."
41:01 Kson: He's like one of those information brokers in anime.
41:10 Kson: He turns around and gives you something incredible like it's nothing.
41:20 Kson: So yeah, this is their level of tech.
41:34 Kson: When I came to LA, GunRun was like, "Hey Kson, wanna go to space?"
41:40 Kson: "Wanna be the first VTuber in space?"
41:47 Kson: I thought he was just joking and said, "Sure!"
41:55 Kson: Apparently he was serious (?).
42:00 Kson: I might be going to space, guys.
42:12 Kson: He started talking with his colleagues specific ways to do it.
42:24 Kson: The scale at which they do things is completely different.
42:46 Kson: They're just thinking how they can make the VTuber world more interesting.

>> No.27463104

Okay okay its not like I'm going to watch her stream, let's move on guys, stop shitposting here okay? Seriously, anti, please just leave this thread alone, someone might need the translation.

>> No.27463112

>>27463026
Any vtuber part of a company pandering to SJWs is evil, yes.

>> No.27463123

>>27463018
You sound underage or an out-of-touch neet.

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>>27463071
>They love anime.

>> No.27463200

>>27462470
She is just like me

>> No.27463206

>>27462845
Mori, pekora, marine and luna are niji rejects

>> No.27463257
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The insecurity of holofags on this board is astounding, where did your supposed """superiority""" go? Are you seriously this afraid of your favorite nippon seiso talents jumping ship?

>> No.27463263

>>27463185
They love money and backpacks.

>> No.27463292

>>27461154
>meds
never taken.

>> No.27463306

>HOLOBRONY IS FEELING THREATENED SO HE HAS TO MAKE BAIT THREADS
HILARIOUS

>> No.27463319

>>27463071
I can appreciate her enthusiasm for such things. But that tech part certainly doesn't apply to everyone there. There's a few members who are just coasting by with as little effort as possible.

>> No.27463327

>>27463071
>They're just simps.
>They love VTubers.
>They love this industry.
>They love anime.
She's been duped.

>> No.27463340 [DELETED] 

I just realized the reason Kson is talking all these shit. Do you guys remember the bilibili fiasco? She's trying to tell the chinkbugs she is an indie and stop attacking vshojo (en) because they are not a company she is a loneranger and has nothing to do with the vshojo (company) they hired her as a solo streamer and the japanese branch has nothing to do with vshojo(company) because all the talents are indies. Guys! I found my answer! She's basically doing damage control for the company!

>> No.27463351

>>27463123
Does your pimp provide you with a 1099-K as an independent contractor?

>> No.27463387

>>27463351
Take your meds weeb

>> No.27463400

>>27463327
Honestly seeing her lie like this is actually disgusting.

>> No.27463425

>>27463206
>Leaving the company
Vs
>"Honorably" "discharged" graduation and un-personed girls

>> No.27463448

>>27463400
She is lying to save vshojo from chink anti.
She is telling them to attack her only because she is still an indie and doesn't belong to a company, but your low IQ brain will never understand Kson.

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>>27463400
Lies? More like your schizo minds is making shit up.

>> No.27463488

>>27463387
I think I'll need to take some penicillin just from talking to you.

>> No.27463513

I always thought my obsession with my oshi put me high on the schizo scale but I kneel to the rest of the holofags on this board for they are not obsessed with their oshi, they're obsessed with the faceless company that steals their oshis' money and griefs projects.

>> No.27463516

>>27463071
this is genuinely repulsive

>> No.27463534

>>27463071
>they know tech
These are the same guys that tried to doxx back some brazilian 15 year olds?

>> No.27463553

>>27463458
>Vshojo
>liking anime
Let's ignore how they pander to the people who would like nothing more than to see anime completely ruined.

>> No.27463567

>>27463071
What the hell is she talking about? Gunrun did not program a replacement for Discord in five minutes, he sent her a link to an irc client or something. Did she really think he made it?

>> No.27463582

Vshojo is sacrificing kson again, just like Cover, she is told to do this stream to take all the blame again. Poor kson.... but I understand, she's a saviorfag, she even helped Mikeneko.....

>> No.27463607

>>27463448
>>27463340
It might actually be true. Given how these ethots operate, it would not be surprising if they would not want actually functioning management. Being an indie and pretending to be part of a company is much easier.

>> No.27463612 [DELETED] 

>>27463425
>mentally ill holokek trying to pretend coco was removed from the company on bad terms one year later
I thought you hated the chinks, why are you practicing the same measures as them?

>> No.27463614

>>27463448
Let's believe for a moment that chinks for one would care about what she says and that they won't bother the rest of vshojo, at the very least the girl that's debuting with her is getting chinked

>> No.27463619

>>27463071
>Wanna be the first vtuber in space?

Oh great, we get the 4th or 5th "first vtuber in 'space'" (it's a weather balloon)

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>>27463488
Yeah, you need to OD on that penicillin so that you die from it.

>> No.27463669

>>27463567
I doubt she knows what IRC is or that it existed before discord

>> No.27463696

What is "vtuber culture"?

>> No.27463715

>>27461926
Do I have the freedom to pour boiling water on my dick? Yes, I have. Does that mean I will do it? Hell no.

>> No.27463725 [DELETED] 

ITT Bugmen because only them can ever say that she lied

>> No.27463750

>>27463696
That thing that's dying currently.

>> No.27463751

>>27463696
/vt/ will never give you an honest answer that isn't "idol culture but with anime girls"

>> No.27463783

>>27463567
>People didn't know that Discord's code is Opensource

>> No.27463787

>>27463612
>Chinks can never be right
Do you also love trannies now, because they hate them? I always hated Kson.

>> No.27463795

>>27463696
Hololive and pure Vtubers because any non Hololive Japanese Vtubers are evil because i'm unable to cope with there being non Japanese Vtuber who not in Hololive existing!

>> No.27463838 [DELETED] 

>>27463787
Ok zhang

>> No.27463864

>>27463795
Good luck learning English.

>> No.27463918

>>27462802
She's a Chink American.

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>>27463838
You too, transoid.

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Could you zhaaangs in here stop wasting your time with 4chan and get your bots in order for the eventual twitch raid I know you have in the works?
Nobody here cares if you burn down a bunch of twitch tranny-jannies trying to execute on your stupid grudge.

>> No.27463978

>>27463795
At least you are honest.

>>27463751
Pretty much this, /vt/ has some pretty hardcore anime delusions of purity.

>> No.27464056

>>27462922
She definitely speaks better Japanese now than at debut but she is still fluent in English and not fluent in Japanese...

>> No.27464102

>>27463400
Quits Hololive coz management forbids her Chaturbate idea. Scammed Tatsunoko for graduation SC and merch. Graduates as glorious Holo alumni, gathers all the spotlight and fame.

Promises creativity but done nothing. Then joins the infamous Vshojo.

>> No.27464129

Wow she is really dumb. She thinks people will believe the things she said? Maybe an 10 year old would believe in this shit but even that is a big streatch.

>> No.27464177

>>27463257
The only people seething and coping these past few days are vshojowhores and nijiniggers. Holochads are just laughing at this whole thing.

>> No.27464195

>>27464102
>I have schizophrenia

>> No.27464245

>>27461298
I guess Vshojo and Hololive are the same after all

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Why is the english on the Kson thread suddenly dropping to elementary school levels

>> No.27464262

>>27463696
It has nothing to do with purity or whatever schizos are arguing right now.
A true vtuber will never break kayfabe. If you are doing IRL streaming, you are not adhering to classic vtuber culture. If you are constantly referring to your roommate in a wink wink way you are not adhering to classic vtuber culture. Most Vshojo members are actually Avatar Streamers.

>> No.27464366

>>27460653
1:00:31 Question: What pros and cons are there to joining VShojo?
1:00:47 Answer: Pros: Tech support, safety, legal support / Cons: Nothing
1:00:59 Kson: In regards to safety, I'm now here at AX, right?
1:01:03 Kson: They hired me a bodyguard.
1:01:11 Kson: I always got one with me.
1:01:17 Kson: Wearing a bulletproof vest and everything.
1:01:28 Kson: VShojo will also provide me legal support.
1:01:39 Kson: Think of them as an Avengers team of people who love VTubers.
1:01:49 Kson: As for cons..... I can't think of any at the moment.

>> No.27464384

>>27464177
Why would VShochads be coping and seething exactly? We just got 2 new members who turned holofags into whiny babies. We're eating good.

>> No.27464404

>>27463071
What a retard.

>> No.27464429

>>27460653
1:12:43 Kson: I hope that one day, we will not longer have the independent/corporation distinction.
1:12:56 Kson: We'll just all be VTubers working toward our own goals, having the support we need.
1:13:06 Kson: The only thing that matters is having fun.
1:13:15 Kson: Just try whatever you want and have fun.
1:13:25 Kson: Even if you fail, you can go, "Oh well! Time to try the next thing!"
1:13:37 Kson: At least, this is the environment I want to create for all VTubers.
1:13:43 Kson: No one wants to see their oshi cry.
1:13:58 Kson: So I hope to make all VTubers, their fans, and those supporting them happy.
1:14:07 Kson: Every getting the appreciation they deserve.
1:14:25 Kson: I want to create such a huge impact on the VTuber world that I can make this a reality.
1:14:38 Kson: And Nazuna-chan will be working with me for this too.
1:15:01 Kson: I will definitely be collabing with her lots!
1:15:04 Kson: I picked her up.
1:15:13 Kson: Though there's still a lot about her that's mysterious.
1:15:15 Kson: Yep, peace and love.

>> No.27464463

>>27464252
They're trying to match Kson.

>> No.27464486

Hey guys I think Kson might be a little retarded

>> No.27464501

>>27464429
Hope selling her soul to the devil was worth it.

>> No.27464509

>>27464366
>1:01:39 Kson: Think of them as an Avengers team of people who love VTubers.
We memed this into reality


>1:12:43 Kson: I hope that one day, we will not longer have the independent/corporation distinction.
>1:14:25 Kson: I want to create such a huge impact on the VTuber world that I can make this a reality.
>1:14:38 Kson: And Nazuna-chan will be working with me for this too.
kek

>> No.27464510

>>27464177
You could be right, but isn't streaming all about faking and lying?

People really think that "my oshi is 100% genuine"? Vtubing is all about voice acting a character and pretending, we just go along with it and enjoy it.

>>27464262
I don't think Vtuber culture exists long enough to exist a "classic vtuber culture", even if I'm wrong, why everybody has to follow it?

>> No.27464522 [DELETED] 

>>27460653
PR??? Not a company? You think i'm stupid??? You going to ask for permission like everyone else so sorry kson no youtube watchalong and pirate anime for you.

>> No.27464529

>>27461154
bro, Kson and Kanata are not even that close, you just believed the characters that they played when they were together in Hololive. Kanata doesn't give a fuck about what Kson does

>> No.27464565

>>27464384
>We just got 2 new members who turned holofags into whiny babies.
You just got the two biggest yabbers in Hololive JP. I don't know how that is supposed to be a good thing.

>> No.27464567

>>27464509
>Avengers
More like the Legion of Doom

>> No.27464568

>>27461285
A branch and countless opportunities for advertising, musical contracts and promotions were killed for her sake, the amount of damage she inflicted is unmeasurable.
>But Artia-
But Yogiri. The girl was forced to die into irrelevancy after she graduated, Spade was also a victim.
The discord harassment campaign set by Artia really turned into second fiddle as a result.

>> No.27464643

>>27464429
Rushia is a perfect example that needed somebody to wrangle her. She was having "fun" until she stopped listening and went mental

>> No.27464668

>>27464565
More like 2 biggest earners. Nice holocope though.

>> No.27464684

>>27464565
They're twitchchatters, were drama is the main source of entertainment. It's all the platform is good for.

>> No.27464695

>>27464565
Also formerly the two biggest superchat earners :^)

>> No.27464724

>>27464429
SHE WANTS TO CREATE OUTER HEAVEN

>> No.27464751

>>27460653
Is she on drugs? We all know this is BS??? Not a company, love anime and jp culture lol.

>> No.27464757

>>27464695
emphasis on former.

>> No.27464804

Huh, seems pretty tame. She didn't directly / explicitly shit on Cover / Hololive at all. A lot of shilling for VShojo, but that should be expected since they are probably letting her manage their JP branch.
All in all, I don't think there was any new info that VTuber viewers aren't already aware of, no? Expected it to be juicier than this with Kson's NDA expiring

>> No.27464815

>>27464195
Technically, nothing he said is wrong.
She went from "muh creativity" to just doing some gunpla building or other boring streams.

>> No.27464866

>>27464695
Formerly Sneed's, presently cucks

>> No.27464869

>>27464366
Saying there's no cons makes it a
hard to believe, but honestly seeing that Kson is the first JP member they went reached an agreement with, I'd imagine Vshojo basically agreed to whatever terms she had against them in order to join, so no surprise there's no cons for her.
On the contrary though Vshojo had to consider the cons more on what ends up happening after inviting Kson in (and Mikeneko) and figure out if the bet that they made will pay off. (Which is hilarious now that I watch this clip, rip that guy's dream) https://youtu.be/oQgEfelv9w4

>> No.27464898

>>27461641
Indies can hire managers too retard.

>> No.27464909

>>27464815
>muh creativity"
he didn't know it was a rrat created by schizo

>> No.27464924

>>27464804
>>27464751
She isn't streaming this for Western viewers. She is doing it for JP viewers who are likely rather uninformed about VShojo

>> No.27464966

>>27464195
Admitting to quoting the voices in your own head is the first step, proud of you

>> No.27465033

>>27464429
Entertainers especially women are better when they are on the leash called rules. Fuck you Kson, and fuck Vshojo

>> No.27465034

>>27464924
>JP viewers who are likely rather uninformed about VShojo
they're catching up

>> No.27465076

>>27464429
>>1:13:58 Kson: So I hope to make all VTubers, their fans, and those supporting them happy.
>1:14:07 Kson: Every getting the appreciation they deserve.
So that's how she convinced Rushia
>It wasn't your fault, you were not wrong, they didn't deserve you, join me and we will make it right

>> No.27465108

What's 5ch's consensus about this? Is it about the same as this board or they're lenient to one side of the argument?

>> No.27465119

>>27465033
Nice holoincel cope.

>> No.27465136

>>27460653
You aren't independent because you do what you want, independently-minded artists who can do whatever the fuck they want are signed to major labels all the time. That doesn't make them independent. She's not an indie anymore.

>> No.27465137

>>27460653
>this was all a coincidence! They just lended me their venue and gave me resouses just because they are such swell guys and not because they were courting me to join them! They are not a company, they are a FAMILY!
If anything, this only shows just how much of a corposhit VShojo really is.

>> No.27465151

>>27465076
I wonder if she said the same spiel to Rushia to make her join.

>> No.27465162

>>27463071
>They love anime
>They love vtubers
Lmao what

>> No.27465211

>>27464924
I'm surprised how many people doesn't know how different is the "Company culture" between east and west.

thought /vt/ was all made of certified japanese culture experts.

>> No.27465216

>>27465162
Mousey alome probably watches more anime and vtubers than all of HoloEN combined.

>> No.27465307

>>27465033
I don't even like Vshojo, but come on incelchama...

>> No.27465309

>>27465216
Oh, you mean the girlfriend of C "I hate anime" Dawg?

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Hey vshojo fans, just post this if chinks in thread become unbearable

>> No.27465330

>>27465119
PLEASE post your unwashed vagina

>> No.27465341

>24:55 Kson: Yes, March 2022 is when this all started.
The absolute saviourfag

>> No.27465390

>>27465216
She watches clips on stream, so I guess it can be correct

>> No.27465403

>>27465307
It's unironically true though. Most women can't help themselves

>> No.27465441

>>27465309
Yes. Even if he did hate anime it has no standing on how much she watches.

>> No.27465471

>>27465403
Nah

>> No.27465494

>>27465320
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

Kson is a traitor and I hope she's permanently blacklisted.

>> No.27465557

>>27465320
You need to fit into your head the fact that this is no longer about the chinks alone, stupid mongoloid.

>> No.27465605

>>27465494
Honestly if it keeps Holos permanently away from Vshojo because of the chinks, it's a good thing

>> No.27465614

>>27465494
Based reason seer. May the CCP fall into ruin and may she never be forgiven for her betrayal.

>> No.27465619

>>27465557
if you're mad about this, you're just as dumb as the chinks.

>> No.27465651

>>27460653
>Vshojo is NOT a company!
and I'm Ryan Gosling.

>> No.27465662

>Kson wants to make a better world for vtubers
What's the issue here?

>> No.27465668

>>27465605
This. Vshojo is too good to be around declining holos.

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>>27465494
Chink

>> No.27465754

>>27465662
She joined a company that panders to the alphabet cult.

>> No.27465788

>>27465619
And you're a fool for keeping your eyes and ears shut.

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>>27465651
Maybe you are...

>> No.27465822

>>27465662
>better
>Vshojo
Might as well start learning some SEAmonkey tongue, because both are tantamount to devolution.

>> No.27465825

>>27465662
>better world for vtubers
>brought twitterfags, ironic weebs, whores, leeches and trannies into the VTuber world
Better world LMAO

>> No.27465828

>VShoujo is not a company
>They don't take cuts from our donations
>They don't own our creations
>We own our IPs
So how do they profit?

>> No.27465833

>>27465754
As opposed to what. Joining nijisanji? Boy do I have news for you.

>> No.27465854

>>27465662
What about vtubers like Kanata that want to be in an idol company?

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>>27465320

>> No.27465885

>>27465833
As opposed to staying indie or making her own. Nijisanji is just as compromised as Vshoujo now.

>> No.27465887

>>27465828
Pimping the girls to top donators.

>> No.27465893

>>27460653
>All members of VShojo are indies
Kson why you lying !
>So I am NOT now part of a company
sell out copium

>> No.27465900

>>27465828
Money laundering

>> No.27465905

>>27465854
Kanata can join an idol company, and keep being Kanata if she decides to do other stuff

>> No.27465910

>>27465788
And you're a seething holofaggot

>> No.27465912

>>27465828
They get all money from merch.

>> No.27465931

>>27465828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXKE0nfAjI

>> No.27465966

>>27465910
There it is, I knew you had it in there somewhere.

>> No.27466004

>>27463962
>>27463838
>>27463725
>>27463612
>>27463340
>>27462882
your defense force is having a break down quick tell mom to reset the router

>> No.27466023

>>27465893
Look catelog tourist, can you please put in some effort to scroll up to what people have been saying?

>> No.27466029

>>27465910
She declared war against all companies including Nijisanji and yet you protecting her nijifag.
It's almost like your entire existance reduced to hating hololive.

>> No.27466061

I don't understand what's going on.

>> No.27466067

>>27466023
>catelog tourist
can you please kill yourself thanks fag

>> No.27466072

>>27465216
Was she referring to the girls or the staff?

>> No.27466097

Not gonna lie, I watched some streams from vshojo hoping to see some horny sluts and they are just girls playing games and reacting to dumb stuff
Did you guys lie to me?

>> No.27466106

>>27466004
Lmao
Tatsunocucks coping hard.

>> No.27466132

>>27466061
Coke vs Pepsi

>> No.27466149

>>27464568
The branch was killed by Chinese nationalism and its mindless supporters.

>> No.27466151

>>27466061
Nobody does, not even kson or Vshojo themselves. It's vtuber-eat-vtuber, all hope is lost. The dream may or may not be dead for real.

>> No.27466153

>>27466097
Well, it’s true that they react to things for like five hours, yeah.

>> No.27466167

>>27464695
Kson fell way off and can't even get into the top 10 with a 3D debut. rumao

>> No.27466191

I still can't comprehend how people are actual fans of vshojo

>> No.27466192

>>27466132
This is Kson moving on to New Coke, right?

>> No.27466210

>>27463112
>SJW
Go back to 2015

>> No.27466234

>>27466210
When they stop I stop.

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>>27466029
I, for one, am ready for an all out war.

>> No.27466247

>>27466151
What was the dream, anon?

>> No.27466250

>>27466132
Nah. That's Niji vs Holo. This is more of like milk company planning to destoy Coke and Pepsi.

>> No.27466271

>>27460653
>intentionally avoids the questions about how much she was paid to join it

>> No.27466276

>>27466250
But milk is better than Coke or Pepsi.

>> No.27466292

>>27464568
>A branch and countless opportunities for advertising, musical contracts and promotions were killed for her sake
They were first and foremost killed because of autistic bugmen screeching

>> No.27466293

>>27466191
This but for hololive

>> No.27466314

The Chinese were right the whole time.

>> No.27466351

>>27466191
This but for hololive

>> No.27466355

>>27465076
>>27465151
She probably had to get her on board or there wouldn't be a JP branch considering they're only launching with two members.

>> No.27466361

>>27466314
No, they just happened to incidentally hit the mark.

>> No.27466381

>>27466191
they think it's hilariously ironic that cool normal people like themselves watch "degenerate" content like ANIME and VTUBERS isn't it just wacky

of course they aren't cool or normal but they are trying to think of themselves that way. That's why they have to virtue signal about idol culture and otaku, to separate themselves from the "un-self-aware" type of fan.

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>>27466250
>>27466276
Milk is dying.

>> No.27466416

>>27466355
ding ding >>27465341

>> No.27466419

>>27460653
>Just clarifying that VShojo is NOT a company
a $11million investment NOT-company, yes

>> No.27466447

>>27466293
>>27466351
This, but for Vshitshow.

>>27466383
>dying
>not “expiring”
Anon, I...

>> No.27466460

>>27464568
A branch was killed because internationalist chinese bolsheviks freaked out at a graph.

>> No.27466498

>>27466314
>I'll side with the CCP because someone joined a company I don't like

>> No.27466585

>>27460653
>Kson: As for cons..... I can't think of any
yep this is how you know she was definitely paid some good money to join and sweet talk them. Souless bitch
>Vshojo receives $11 million investment: march 2022
>Kson gets contacted to join Vshojo: March 2022

>> No.27466618

>>27466381
You probably hit the nail on the head there. Ironic weebs who think they're too cool for the room

>> No.27466622

>>27466498
turns out they're more based than she is

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If I can give some advice to Kson... My advice is the grander your dreams are, the bigger chance of "the law of unintended consequences" happening. She should learn about this when Wumao Yabs happened to her and Haato.

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>>27464245
Literally made for each other.

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How can all of this make things better? Joining a corpo so you can stay "indie" but with more hatred than ever before? And even bring the most controversial, dumb af greener with you?How about all the emotional promises that were made?
I think i can finally accept the death of the reddit dragon

>> No.27466693

I hope Mike goes full menhera and ruins everything for everyone

>> No.27466753

>>27466498
>"I cannot agree with the facts because I hate you."
Cope.

>> No.27466778

The level of SEETHING going on good lord. You'd think she killed a bunch of people's families with the sea of salt that is this thread.

>> No.27466783

>>27466673
I'm glad this happened. Coco and Rushia leaving left a permanent pall over Hololive group activities for me but now that I know their true dream was doing strip shows on chaturbate I don't feel bad any more.

>> No.27466818

>>27466693
Changing companies does not cure menheraness. She will cause drama. There will be future yabs.

>> No.27466845

>>27460653
>Cons: none
Lmaooo..
I mean, of course. She's a fucking big indies, just like Ironmouse, Nyanner, and Veibae.
Did she seriously think small indies would get the same chance as her? Vshojo already asked for streaming quota in their audition, something that's we never heard on before in Vshojo.

>> No.27466864

>>27465828
Merch and sponsors.

>> No.27466876
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>>27466753
>I'll side with screeching commie bugmen because anime tiddie woman did join anime tiddie company

>> No.27466895

>>27466845
what are the actual cons, aside from no merch money?

>> No.27466901

>>27466876
yeah I'll side with commies over whores any day

>> No.27466903

All of a sudden, everyone is leaning to Zhang. kek

>> No.27466947

>>27466381
I just think the pink cat is funny.

>> No.27466955

>>27463783
yeah, but is the server opensource?

>> No.27466965

>>27466901
Oh no /vt/ is becoming antifa

>> No.27467004

>>27466895
Schizos on /vt/ will hate you

Oh wait that's a pro too

>> No.27467013

>>27466965
Coming full circle

>> No.27467017

>>27464129
yes anon there will be people who believe her, who are older than 10, who have jobs too! Dont over estimate the intelligence of the average ethot simp

>> No.27467019

It's cute when you get labeled as a bugman sympathizer because you're not going to lick some bitch's boots.

>> No.27467021

>>27466947
fuck off, no one thinks nyanners is funny

>> No.27467037

>>27466947
No you don't

>> No.27467047

if revenue isn't split how is Vshojo exactly making money from the talents? I don't understand

>> No.27467059

>>27466876
>realizing China was right about Coco = Siding with them 100%
I only agree with them on the Coco thing, retard.

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>>27466845
>Vshojo already asked for streaming quota in their audition, something that's we never heard on before in Vshojo.
Gee, I wonder why they've started asking for it

>> No.27467098

>>27467047
Merchandise and sponsorship deals.

>> No.27467109

>>27467047
The merch and investors

>> No.27467119

>>27464129
You overastimating inteligence of humanity. There are tons idiots in this world that would believe that.

>> No.27467130

>>27466895
For her probably none, but it was basically the exact same as when she was an indie, the only thing that we got from this stream was that she's completely tech illiterate and that she never heard of IRC, but I'm not sure if joining a company for someone to teach you that there programs other than discord is a good motivation

>> No.27467150

>>27467019
You arent a bugman sympathizer, your just a bug.

>> No.27467174

>>27467150
Ironic since Coco is a chink herself lmao

>> No.27467178

>>27467047
>be twitch ceo
>ppl come to twitch to watch vshojo
ez profit

>> No.27467309

>>27467130
there were probably easier ways for her to get some tech support for her streams lol

>> No.27467328

>>27467019
It's cute when you get labeled as a whore sympathizer because you're not going to lick some bugmen boots.

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>>27460653
Hello Kson, i know you're here. Check this out before you say anything about Vshojo.

>> No.27467397

>>27467019
Licking boots implies that she did something wrong and people refuse to admit it. When people get irrationally mad at someone people will respond with irrational defense.

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>>27467358
And this one too.

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>>27460653
>VShojo is NOT a company.

>> No.27467427

>>27467150
>Calling other people bugs when you don't know English

>> No.27467450

>>27467059
>I agree that showing a free country's flag on stream is an excuse to go full schizo and relentlessly spam a person and her coworkers for months to come

>> No.27467483

>>27467423
kek why would she even lie about that?

>> No.27467489

>>27467397
>she did something wrong
For starters she lied trough her teeth during her stream earlier today.

>> No.27467510

>>27467483
Because she lied that she would never join another company.

>> No.27467516

>>27467358
>>27467403
Not even surprised.

>> No.27467520

>>27467489
How so?

>> No.27467547

>>27463071
was this idiot brainwashed or what? and how many millions did it take?

>> No.27467565

>>27460653
Based KSon. The Holocuck seething in this thread is hilarious.

>> No.27467568

>>27467483
She said she wouldn't join a company, does so anyway. She is just saying it now so her JP fans don't roast her.

>> No.27467572

>>27460653
>Just clarifying that VShojo is NOT a company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGD9dT12C0

>> No.27467580
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Underneath the bridge
Tarp has sprung a leak
And the
Animals I’ve trapped
Have all become my fat

>> No.27467596

>>27467520
>Vshoujo is not a company
>they love anime and japanese culture

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>>27467547
>and how many millions did it take?
11mln

>> No.27467625

>>27467483
I'm very confused myself i don't even know what to say about it i am disgusted by the boldness to claim such a thing personally.

>> No.27467654

>>27467423
Certainly is a headscratcher that I don't know if anyone will actually believe her saying

>> No.27467658

>>27467510
>>27467568
>>27467625
She said that on her way out of hololive, it's possible for her to change her mind after. She could say that instead of pretending the vtuber COMPANY she signed a contract to isn't a company.

>> No.27467660

>>27467596
wow, lie of the century
she needs to be cancelled immediately for such a blatant untruth!

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>>27460653
>VShojo is NOT a company.
>indivisual
Did leaving Hololive give her brain damage?

>> No.27467714

>>27467596
They aren't a company, they are a confederation of streamers pooling resources. I am not a Vshojo fan, but these are hardly what you can call lies.

>> No.27467729

>>27467358
>>27467403
And people complain to Cover and Anykara for advocating censorship.

>> No.27467753

>>27467403
>>27467358
kekw

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>>27467565
Yeah, all the impotent rage in this thread is nothing short of amusing. Knowing no matter how much they seethe they already lost and will lose more members in the next years.
Let them enjoy their useless rage.

>> No.27467835

>>27467714
>>27467423

>> No.27467841

>>27467358
>>27467403
So what I'm getting from this is that vshojo hired a really scummy company to help them copyright strikes, is that right?

>> No.27467849

>>27467580
What's worst than a whore. A fat lesbian whore...

>> No.27467895

>>27462802
anon, you can become ESL if you switch from using only one language to another. Just ask them what language they think or dream in and if they say something other than their mother tongue, then they are ESL.

>> No.27467910

>>27467781
Now go and lick your woke master's shoes.

>> No.27467976

>>27467849
Did her g/f break up with her? She's really letting herself go. You can see her Ring Fit streams less than a year ago where's she's still fine.

>> No.27467979

>>27467835
Apparently Vshojo doesn't know what they are either.

>> No.27467982

>>27466151
The dream still lives on. But not in bigger corporations. The "early Hololive" effect is still possible to achieve.

>> No.27467989

>>27467910
Haha they keep going, how cute.

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>>27461221
>It is a company, but not
Then she should say that, case closed. Saying "but its not a company" sounds like cope and her trying to keep in the Hololive fans that are still watching her in hopes she'll come back to Hololive or at least guest cameo since she proclaimed that "the only company I belong to is Hololive".

>> No.27468038

>>27467976
>She's really letting herself go.
She sat on her ass for an entire year doing nothing. She went to a new company because she needs the structure of a "job" that Hololive would provide for her. Her fatness is a reflection of an inability to impose discipline on herself.

>> No.27468107

>>27467993
Coco only belongs to Hololive, so she never lied about that part, just everything else.

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>>27467976
>Did her g/f break up with her?
Yes. Kanata is after Lamy now.

>> No.27468215

>>27468152
rrat is Cover told Kanata she may need to move out since she is now living with a direct competitor of Hololive or be asked to graduate.

>> No.27468243

>>27468215
Source: from my autist brain.

>> No.27468270

>>27467358
>>27467403
You might want to put this on a new thread with one or two paragraphs for elaboration. This is critical information for those who want to know about VShojo.

>> No.27468321

>>27468270
Being honest, i'll get a ban for posting that very soon. So feel free to do so.

>> No.27468378

I'm glad the Chinese made her cry and I hope they will again

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So much vtard doing cocock sucking in this thread. And they call nijifan and holofan as bootlicker for defending what they watch. It's like pot calling kettle black.

>> No.27468445

>>27461154
I can't wait until Kanata gets poached and turned into a tanned tatted-up gyaru pregnant whore as well

>> No.27468460

>>27468408
Three kingdoms but two of them is not even a kingdom.

>> No.27468497

>>27468445
Is it night-time in schizoland already?

>> No.27468510

>>27468460
Yeah, Vshojo is more like barbarian hordes.

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>>27467781

>> No.27468549

>>27468510
>barbarian hordes
*barbarian whores

>> No.27468563

>>27468215
They're not holding a meeting with several talents for the purpose of telling her to move out.

>> No.27468566

>>27468530
Do you think things are better or worse than last year? How about the year before that?

>> No.27468565

>>27464568
tank man, winnie the pooh etc.

>> No.27468586

>>27466778
former fans become the worst anties

>> No.27468615

Did Coco go crazy at some point after leaving Hololive? She sounds like a shill and sellout now instead of that crass and honest person who would tell you how things really were like as a Holo, what the hell happened?

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It was all for nothing.

>> No.27468662

>>27466314
no they just got lucky that the bitch is so greedy and dumb

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>>27468321
Ah, too bad. It's your call because I can't elaborate beyond those pictures. Also, it seems like VShojo can retaliate. This forum is essentially a pariah for the VTuber community (probably includes higher-ups in the company), after all.

>> No.27468686

>>27468566
Events are bigger, more sponsors, 3D stream quality and viewer numbers way up, more viewers in general. Yeah I'd say they're better. Keep crying though.

>> No.27468695

>>27468615
She was always crazy, anon.
Chinks tried to warn us but we were blinded by American patriotism.

>> No.27468757

>>27468549
kekd

>> No.27468799

>>27468631
But she told you anon there are NO cons to joining vshojo. Hell why do indies even exist if they can just join vshojo with zero downsides at all? It's just like putting your game on EPIC game store. Zero downsides and all the benefits right away.

>> No.27468829

>>27465108
5ch is full of normies. They will probably just take Kson's word without looking much further.

>> No.27468843

>>27468615
Everyone at hololive made us see her through rose tinted glasses because her leaving made them sad and every criticism of her has ever since the chinkout been drowned out by her fans accusing everyone of being a chink.

>> No.27468866

>>27467058

Honestly, I think there's a natural progression to success, even outside of vtubers or even streamers generally.

Basically, you start out grinding to build your rep, putting in the work. As you become more successful, you start using some your time to work on other things, concerts, merch, sponsorships, live appearances, whatever.

Eventually, if you continue to succeed you get big enough that there's too much work for one person, you have managers and support staff, etc. As popularity truly skyrockets and you have millions of fans and are making money hand over fist, actually streaming (or whatever it is that originally made you successful) feels like the least valuable use of your time. Certainly it's not what your management, support staff and corporate sponsors want you to be wasting your time with!

Eventually a critical mass is hit, where a person or character is famous and popular for being famous and popular, to the point where them actually doing the things that made them famous are mostly just a distant memory that only their most devoted fans still talk about. The whole thing becomes a hollow shell of consumerism that exists mostly outside of the actual person who enabled it.

Now granted, the one risk at any stage of this is someone fucking up so badly with some scandal or whatever (Murder, for example) but even then, if they achieved a certain amount of fame before outing themselves as literally Satan, they can still basically coast for life, and will always have some fans.

>> No.27468883

>>27468686
That's JP though, what abput Stars, EN, and ID? the three neglected branches?

>> No.27468899

>>27468615
She's gonna tell you how things really are when she tells you all about Raid Shadow Legends. You know she's somewhat of a legend herself so why wouldn't you trust her when she tells you it's the best game ever? You're not a CHINK are you anon?

>> No.27468934

>>27468799
>Hell why do indies even exist if they can just join vshojo with zero downsides at all?
Because VSJ is a clique, the "company" was created by a group of friends to compete with corpo vtubers.

>> No.27468998

>>27460653
Even reading all of that I still believe she joined as part of a deal that they would also hire mikeneko.

>> No.27469070

>>27468883
Stars are getting another fucking concert retard

>> No.27469089

>>27468934
Well kson has a big clique of indie 2views she picked up during her indie year, surely she'll get them into vshojo as well. Would be an awful shame if she just left them in the dust the moment she was legally allowed to move on.

>> No.27469113

>>27469089
It would be a bigger shame if she dragged them into vshojo

>> No.27469137

>>27468883
Dunno about the Homos but EN and ID do have their fair share of sponsors and merch, also EN 1 and ID 1 do have their 3Ds now.

>> No.27469144

>>27468883
This isn't 2019 anymore dude, the stars are doing good

>> No.27469185

>>27468883
>ID
Did you miss all that Kobo spam?

>> No.27469194

>>27469113
It's every indie's dream to be a part of a great cash money deal.

>> No.27469323

>>27469194
oh, that explains why so many are signing to porn studios like vshojo. wait,

>> No.27469497

>>27469323
They probably are, it's just that auditions got canned. It's going to be all nepotism from now on after the dox shitshow

>> No.27469615

This is such obvious bullshit. They obviously sought out kson with a generous contract to be their jp spokesman and "mother hen" of the new branch.

You would literally need to be born yesterday to believe this story

>> No.27469632

I don't have much hopes for the JPs to really get it but im curious as to how the other EN indies are reacting to her statements?

>> No.27469637

>>27468883
Considering this topic was about JP members I'm not sure what you expected. Anyway, stars are doing better than they used to. EN is doing fine as long as you're not Kiara. Nobody expected them to keep their debut numbers and they're getting deals they didn't last year and some of the best viewership since the costume month.

>> No.27470057

>>27469323
Considering even the talents to get into corporations sometimes have to take auditions 3-5 times before they get in... Yeah they do. They're just not accepted.

>> No.27470102

How can you call yourself an indie when VShojo just announced 11 million in funding?

>> No.27470161

>>27470102
You lie.

>> No.27470229

>>27470102
maybe she thought nobody would make a few seconds fact check on google

>> No.27470238

i get it. its not a company in how cover or niji is. all the girls can do their own thing, they just help them with sponsorships, merch, support both tech and legal and security.

also you can see all the pillowfucker seethe for breaking their immersion.

>> No.27470339

>>27470238
So it's more like an agency then?

>> No.27470558

>>27470339
yeah pretty much.

>> No.27470592

>>27461641
She also said everyone in vshojo is an indie

>> No.27470671

>>27460653
So who is Nazuna actually?Mike or keychan?

>> No.27470795

>>27466693
Future anon here. She won't be able to affect EN but she has completely ruined the chances of a VShojo JP. Amusingly, the Japanese are the ones that are going to bring the biggest drama.
/vt/ will lose as a result 30% of its userbase but I can't go into details.

>> No.27470836

>>27470339
yep, they help with that and you just let them use your image to sell merchandise.

>> No.27470916

>>27460978
>rules
Who's going to tell him? Some of you are so used to oppression, you are terrified of freedom.

>> No.27471049

The board is now so peaceful after SEAgets and pagpags goes to sleep.

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>>27470795
>spoiler

>> No.27471281

>>27468631
They should've just killed off the character, rather than do a long, drawn out "farewell". it would've been a cleaner break for fans of the character.

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