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27381059 No.27381059 [Reply] [Original]

Be honest. If you were a female VTuber and not just a geek on the internet, would you rather join Hololive or Vshojo? And why?

>> No.27381139

>>27381059
depends ont he sponsorships the companies are getting, if i dont like them i wouldnt, say i use hyperx most of the time but because of sponsors im forced to use logitech or something instead, i would hate that

>> No.27381184

surely there's more money in hololive

>> No.27381199

>>27381059
Vshojo so I could regularly collab with kson and michael

>> No.27381217

>>27381059
I'd aim for a knightly combo of indie lewd content and Hololive seiso content.

>> No.27381281

>>27381059
Hololive. The only thing vwhores have over hololive is freedom to suck their bf dick on stream and still be praised by bunch of cucks. But then again that might be wrong, consider deadbeats exist.

>> No.27381300

>>27381059
hololive because im not a manwhore so why would i be a regular whore if i was a woman

>> No.27381348

>>27381059
Depends, how much is my onlyfans raking in?

>> No.27381385

>>27381059
Hololive, do everything to get close to Botan so I can get them sweet sweet game/spots sponsorship. Also get a hag to take care of me.

>> No.27381442

>>27381059
Neither; I'd join the small corpo that my oshi is part of. Hololive fans are fucking insufferable and I wouldn't be able to deal with them just for a paycheck.

>> No.27381482

>>27381059
Resume wise Hololive would be so much better.

>> No.27381579

>>27381059
>Do I have some kind of marketable talent beyond just being a slut selling myself on the internet?
If yes, Hololive, if no, V Shojo.

>> No.27381638

>>27381059
I'd join Nijisanji.
>but but but
I don't care about numbers.
I will fuck Kenmochi Toya.
The single user recordng booth will never be the same.

>> No.27381669

>>27381059
Hololive

>> No.27381733

>>27381059
Hololive or nijisanji hell even small corpo or stay a indie than join Vtards

>> No.27381743

>>27381638
>I will fuck Kenmochi Toya.
Better be a loli or you have no shot.

>> No.27381760

>>27381059
Hololive cause anime, merch, video game presence, prestige, with a gold standard company. Fame and money rolled into one.

>> No.27381909

hololive for 2-3 years. i'll play incredibly easy games so i can always be reading chat and calling people out by name to make them feel special. members only streams will perfectly simulate the GFE. my members will become emotionally dependent on me. after that i'll find a way to get terminated (say something about Hong Kong or Roe v. Wade or whatever) and get dropped by Cover. my fanbase will be upset, but the loyal members i'd cultivated through months and months of emotional manipulation would stick with me. then i'd join vshojo and coast the rest of my career there with my existing fanbase as well as the new ones i'm going to show my butthole for. maybe i'll make an onlyfans and retire at 30, then ghost every one of my viewers and never associated with the vtubing industry ever again

>> No.27381910

>>27381059
I am a female and I'd join Hololive because I love cunny and I want to be able to talk about how much I love cunny with other cunny lovers.

>> No.27381947

stay a 2view indie and pander to people here so i can get /vt/ to groom me and pay me to fulfill their fantasies

>> No.27381968

>>27381059
i'd join jesus in heaven

>> No.27382116

>>27381059
if I were a female VTuber I'd fondle and grope myself all day

>> No.27382137

Putting my preferences aside, definitely vshojo
From a streamer POV I literally can't find any reason in favor for hololive
Limitations, money cut, freedom to stream whenever or even not stream at all, clout and ability to promote new talent, everything looks better on their side

>> No.27382152

Hololive for the 6 figure stacks.

>> No.27382262

>>27381059
vshojo because i'm a degenerate.

>> No.27382294

>>27381059
Hololive. I'm already from a rich family, so I'd rather have my star burn brighter than keep more % of the money I make. Also I would like to grab Kronii's ass at an offcollab

>> No.27382308

Wouldn't joining hololive require working for a Japanese company meaning double taxation meaning getting literally 10% of your total pay?
Didn't Cali say something like that once? If so, then that would make the choice simple af

>> No.27382385

Unironically Vshojo. Not because I like lewd content (I don't) but because they'll let me do whatever that is I want to do. Then I'll just play Crusader Kings 3 everyday and won't have to worry about shilling myself because they'll do it for me. I'll also play autism simulators and allow chat to backseat me if I'm too much of a brainlet to figure it out myself.

>b-b-b-but what about Nijisanji
No. I do not want forced collabs and I do not want to talk to other kidneys or whatever they call their vtubers.

>> No.27382475

>>27381059
Nijisanji. I have a stick up my ass and they need some tard wranglers over there, holy shit.

>> No.27382654

its fascinating /vt/ is one of few boards that promotes normalfaggotry and going with the crowd considering all the fucking holobronies and posts in this thread

>> No.27382841

>>27382385
fuck, i change my answer. this is the right one

>> No.27382877

>>27381059
Hololive
I'm fine with pandering to lonely men for attention/ monetary gain and I know they're loyal so as long as I keep doing my job I can potentially get lots of views, lots of money and all for doing something I like doing
Also would get a chance to build a music career, a chance to become a voice actress and a chance of getting into the gaming/anime industry
As for vshojo, I'm not gay so I don't want a boyfriend, much less flaunt him on stream, I have no cum drinking tales to share and I really don't care about >muh freedom, which is the selling point of vshojo, so I don't see what they can offer me that holo can't

>> No.27383209

Hololive, because I have self respect.

>>27382654
Vshoujo IS normalfaggotry. Being an idol requires dedication, skill and hard work. Anyone can be a whore and Vshoujo is just that, low effort trash made by people who don't want to be vtubers for people who watch vtubers "ironically."

>> No.27383594

Most likely hololive b/c
a) if you're already a fan of talents from one of the agencies, your choice is already made, and hololive is more popular
b) hololive likely makes far more money per talent, even accounting for Cover's cut

That said, if you aren't into idol stuff or restrictions, you'd probably prefer vshojo. Also you probably have a far higher chance of getting into vshojo, since the audition process for hololive is apparently brutally competitive

>> No.27383663

hololive so i could rape pekora with miko

>> No.27384026

>>27381059
none of them, I'd be too based for both of their policies. I'd probably only stream on peertube or goyimtv etc.

>> No.27384056

>>27381059
Vshojo. Cover management is legendarily trash. Vshojo and NijiEN are better options especially for English streamer.

>> No.27384229

I mean Hololive means way more guaranteed views and money, but at the same time VShojo won't constantly tell me I can't play a game.

>> No.27384283

>>27382308
No. Callie's tax problems stem from the fact that she's technically working and living in two countries at once and that she's apparently too fucking stupid to hire an accountant to take advantage of the mechanisms in place to prevent just such an occurrence. In short she's played herself.

>> No.27384315

>>27381300
>why would i be a regular whore if i was a woman
because it's really, really fucking easy, people praise you for it, and you make shit tons of money doing it

>> No.27384329

>>27382385
If that's all you're after you'd be better off as an indie.

>> No.27384359

>>27384283
An account wouldn't save her because people who are wealthy because of an income do in fact have to pay high taxes. The reason the ultra-wealthy get away with it is because their wealth is tied in assets and unsold stocks, neither of which are taxable.

>> No.27384481

>>27381059
Since i have respect for myself id say hololive, i dont want to be some whore who coombaits nd reacts to terrible videos, people think vshojo "freedom" is a great thing but it takes a very specific person to actually put effort in and work when they work for themselves. Structure is good, unemployed people have more freedom but end up wasting those 8-10 hours a day im working, doing fuck all. Vshojo is the same, the girls have more freedom but end up being completely uncreative, unmotivated and just fall into the current twitch meta. At least the holo girls have talent

>> No.27384590
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>>27384315
GFE makes you tons of money and you also get to keep your dignity, plus you even keep love starved gachikoi from killing themselves.
youre practically a saint compared to a sluttuber.

>> No.27384711

Hololive makes more money, but...
VShojo gives more freedom, and VShojo fans are much less toxic.

I'd say VShojo would be a comfier experience. You can still make enough to live on, but you can enjoy your work.

>> No.27384931

>>27384359

Her problem is being double taxed, which the US has two mechanisms to deal with. One is the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion provision, which allows you to basically not be taxed on about 100k or so of income if you earned it in another country. So at that level, you clearly cannot be poor. The second is the foreign tax credit. Basically if you paid taxes to a foreign government, you pay less to the US.

>> No.27384973

Hololive
sweaty lesbian sex with Lui-nee

>> No.27385178

>>27381059
If I could pick freely I'd go with Hololive easily. Almost guaranteed success and a great support network for collabs and legal issues. What sets Hololive apart from other corpos is the structured culture they promote, which I would be more comfortable with than a completely open-ended approach.
All you have to do in Hololive is to imitate and get along with the other girls. Drama is kept to a minimum.
Also, there's no great expectation of coom-baiting in Hololive. It may seem like an easy road to success, but the fact of the matter is that there's a lot of competition on that front. No loyalty. Going the wannabe-idol route, you pick up fans that will continue to support you for a long time. It's more stable. (Plus, I honestly wouldn't be comfortable selling virtual sex or romance to random people online. I would rather just play vidya and talk with chat.)

>> No.27385273

>>27381059
id join hololive and be a meek super frail fragile cry at everything gfe chuuba

>> No.27385292
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>>27381059
Vshojo, so I could also do slutstreams on eplay/chaturbate.

>> No.27385356

>>27382308
You should learn to stop taking anything Mori says seriously. She's clueless.

>> No.27385395

Vshojo, because asking for game permissions and having to deal with retarded management isn't my thing.

>> No.27385483

>>27381059
I would join Hololive and become the next Rushia, but without any possibility of committing the same yab, thus becoming the top earner for years and even ensuring myself a sustainable future thanks to all the partners and influence hololive has.

>> No.27385512
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>>27381059
if i were a singer/songwriter i'd unfortunately force myself into hololive and hate my audience
otherwise i'd be vshojo

>> No.27385572

>>27382654
Hololive is the opposite of normalfaggotry. They are the biggest, but that's only because vtubing is a super niche hobby that only nerds are into anyway.
The nerds who are into vshojo and NijiEN are faux-normalfags. They desperately want to be normal and so cling to the stuff that seems closest to it, i.e. normalfag e-thotts.
Just look at the discourse around GFE and unicorns.

>> No.27385599

>>27385572
kek yeah anon imagine if that were really true

>> No.27385644

>>27382654
You don't know what normalfaggotry means.

>> No.27385693

>>27381385
Literally posted what i had in mind

>> No.27385699

>>27384359
>people who are wealthy because of an income do in fact have to pay high taxes
Not really. In Japan yes, resident foreigners do pay more taxes than Japanese citizens but everyone else pays a flat tax. In the US high earners technically pay a higher percentage in taxes as their income slots into higher brackets but they also have more opportunity to claim more deductions and incentives. For instance I'd be surprised if Callie couldn't claim at least of her travel, equipment, streaming, and recording expenditures as work necessities, or even incorporate herself and claim some kind of incentive programs. Point is she shouldn't be paying nearly as much as she thinks she will be and is only doing so because of her own cupidity.

>> No.27385707

>>27383594
>b) hololive likely makes far more money per talent, even accounting for Cover's cut
Yeah, I really wonder why people put Cover's cut as a negative when you're almost certain to be earning more money overall anyway. It's like they don't even care about the money, they just hate the concept of having to split the profits with anyone.
Also, fair point about restrictions. I didn't even consider that as a problem when choosing Hololive, because to me it's about having a job and not just having fun. There's definitely a difference in perspective here.

>> No.27385744

>>27384329
>If that's all you're after you'd be better off as an indie
sure, but even indies hire talent agencies to do stuff for them, even if they don't officially say anything about it.
so why not have one that has connections and specializes in vtubers?

>> No.27385769

>>27385707
You're also getting part of that cut back as salary and probably benefits.

>> No.27385784

>>27385707
they don't make more after the cut tho

>> No.27385843

>>27385273
That's like playing on easy mode, reeling all the saivorfags in.

>> No.27385846

If I were a woman and guaranteed to get in? Hololive for sure. I'm a fan of their talents unlike vshojo, I'm not the type to talk about sex and if I were a woman I'd still probably be a virgin so that's a reason out of going to vshojo, and honestly the idea of being a cute idol girl is kinda cool. I like the concerts a lot.

>> No.27385925

>>27385599
Nice argument, as expected of a wannabe normalfag. Don't worry though, the facts remain no matter what you choose to believe.

>> No.27385989

>>27384329
Indies don't have managers that organize stuff for you. Indies also have to promote themselves and have zero job security. Not everyone likes autism simulators but with a large enough combined audience to expose yourself there will be other like-minded viewers who will stay because they also like what they like.

HoloID is a comfy sidebranch if you want to just stream and still be financially secured, but I don't speak indonesian and they're still subject to the same permissions autism as HoloJP and HoloEN.

>> No.27386022

>>27385744
You're talking about a management agency, not a streaming agency. A management agency is paid by you to look after and promote your personal interests whereas a streaming agency is paid to look after the interests of a group of people, of which you are neither the sole nor controlling voice. Neither is necessarily better or worse than the other but if you just want to do your own thing in your own time a manager would be a better choice than a group.

>> No.27386092

Hololive, I would 100% be in need of a tardwrangler. Plus I'd rather be in an agency that encourages the music aspect than one that doesn't.

>> No.27386226

>>27385989
Managers are a thing and the other anon said he wanted to play autism simulators and only occasionally colab with whomever he chooses. A corporation wouldn't really have anything to offer someone like that.

>> No.27386298

>>27386092
>music
This is one of the legitimate reasons to go for hololive. Both NijiEN and Vshojo focus on the streaming aspect and let their livers fend for themselves when comes to music.

>> No.27386354

>>27381059
well, since ill probably be single, hololive looks like a great choice.

>> No.27386538

>>27385843
id do it because thats what i want in a vtuber, but pretty much every single one of them is brash and outgoing so im out of luck
i guess it makes sense, youre not gonna go far on the internet if thats your actual honest personality

>> No.27386710

>>27381059
hololive since I'm not a whore

>> No.27386797

>>27381059
Hololive, because I want to be an idol

>> No.27387099

>>27386797
Please be in London.

>> No.27387138

>>27381059
I'd join whichever
1. took me in and
2. gave better contract terms

>> No.27387283

>>27387099
https://voca.ro/1j4UKdo48Zt7

>> No.27387519

>>27381059
Hololive
>know way more about them at this time
>twitch vshojo recommendations are often just chatting
I like my games and I know they do play games, but it seems like they do a lot of chatting so I just don't tune in.

>> No.27387551

>>27381059
>join hololive
>instantly 250k subs before you even stream

>> No.27387676

Vshojo so I could actually be the first streamer with a talent and generate infinite amounts of seethe from the whores who think that having tits and talking about sex is enough to qualify as a vtuber.

>> No.27387771

>>27381059
Whichever one pays the most. I mean, do you REALLY need to ride some gym rat's dick and show it on stream? I'd rather just stay single and stream myself masturbating with my fans for 5-10 years, retire a multi-millionaire, then do whatever I want. So yeah, whichever one pays the most.

>> No.27388843

>>27381059
Join Vshojo, watch garbage on YouTube through twitch, play games, open a nsfw account on adult site, literally get paid for masterbating, do nothing but horny post on twitter. If I leave I can pretty much keep being a indie with my old model.

>> No.27388881

>>27381059
the only possible answer is hololive
>my oshis are here
>i'm not a whore nor i want to get aids
>no male collabs
>no trannyshit
>ez fame
i've already considered auditioning but idk

>> No.27388985

if I was japanese, hololive without a doubt. EN? vshojo without question. no point in letting cover take such a significant cut of my paycheck when they're not going to put a single penny back into me or my branch, and vshojo is more than enough of a marketing boost to get eyes on your streams which is the only thing hololive offers the EN branch at this point.

>> No.27390143

>>27382152
Hololive takes your money. Do you know how much ironmouse made in the last year?

>> No.27390182

>>27384481
Lol

>> No.27390239

>>27382385
Just join Phase Connect then.

>> No.27390317

>>27381059
Hololive is for people with ambition, and I don't have any.

>> No.27391147

Why would ANYONE want to join Hololive? Think about it logically, you will have to deal with Festival and Marine sexual harassment, Pekora/Botan/Towa... bullying, stalked by Sora. And don't even get me started with the dog/cat.
Join Vshojo and you get to "become friend" with famous twitchfag and youtuber like Giggud, Joe and Conner for their clout.

>> No.27395056

>>27381059
VShojo, for freedom

>> No.27395148

>>27395056
You mean for whoring yourself out even after you hit the wall

>> No.27395231

>>27391147
Yeah, you can join Vshoujo and commit harassment against smaller creators instead! Seems like a much better company.

>> No.27395299

>>27381059
Hololive. Lawful good is a good place.

>> No.27395443

>>27381059
What kind of freedom are we talking about? Are VShojo allowed to discuss politics? What do they think about Taiwan?

>> No.27395639

Its a tough choice, I prefer working with people who are held to a standard like Hololive but I'd also want the freedom to work how I want.

Over all I'll have to go with Hololive, i'm not that money centric so the cut into profit is no problem for me and I thikn I'd have more fun working with the people there.

>> No.27399785

>>27381059
Vshojo because more freedom with games and collabs. Also I don't have to hold back my language and dark humor. Sure you'll get more exposure and fame with Hololive, but it doesn't seem worth it if it's boring and there's nothing I can do and say. I wouldn't play into the retarded waifu act, I would just be myself (but I'm a lore fanatic so I wouldn't break kayfabe), but if anyone considers me their wife I'd still be flattered and wouldn't make fun of anyone for it. I just wanna play cool games and connect with my audience/fans.

>> No.27400188

Anyone seriously saying Hololive and mentioning idols are lying, you know you'd want to have more freedom to play the games you want and say what you want. You want to SEE idols and CFE chuubas, you don't want to actually be one yourself.

>> No.27400277

>>27390317
Lmao

>> No.27400466

>>27381059
Hololive.
Much better company.
Pay is way better.
No politics.
No SJWs.
Everybody is not an angry, western e-whore.
YouTube > Twitch
Fans are way better.
Yagoo.
Can say “Trap”

>> No.27400481

>>27381059
Hololive because no one expect me to side with political shit just because I'm part of "le freedom" or be forbidden to say that I like lolis/traps, just let me play games in peace

>> No.27400555

>>27400188
No I actually do want to be one myself. I love the idea of singing and dancing and want people to admire me on a stage, and I want to be able to act as a symbol to other people who can look to me for guidance so I can help them

>> No.27400920

>>27400555
Okay, I'll believe this one because you seem genuine. Just looks like all the other people saying Hololive because of idols don't actually know what goes into being one. They know they'd want more freedom too.

>> No.27401997
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In Hololive fans like Deadbeats are the outlier and in Vshojo they're the norm. I think I'd rather get skinned alive than work for Vshojo.

>> No.27405682

>>27381059
>Be honest. If you were a female VTuber and not just a geek on the internet, would you rather join Hololive or Vshojo? And why?
Neither. FUCK the idea that Vtubing HAS To be streaming. It didn't start out this way and good LP content basically died out.

>> No.27405756

>>27381059
Join Holo for a year to build up a hardcore fanbase of simps and incels, then bail for Vshojo.

>> No.27406035

>>27381059
I dont speak japanese so I'd rather join Vshojo and try to fuck Froot to be honest.

>> No.27406101

>>27406035
This is the only good reason I’ve seen to join VShojo thus far.
I kneel

>> No.27406562

>>27381059
Hololive for the brand recognition and job security.

The thing about Vshojo is that every member of Vshojo was a successful indie with an established audience before they joined. The Vshojo brand isn't a free ride the way the Hololive brand is.

>> No.27406995

>>27381909
>play incredibly easy games
kys

>> No.27408020

If I was a woman I’d want to get railed in my 3 holes but also have a loving relationship, what do

>> No.27408269

>>27385572
it was niche over three years ago or more
it definitely isn't anymore
>>27385644
actually i think you have no idea what it means
>>27383209
fair enough, its still a decision between two within their circles famous firms

>> No.27408295

>>27408020
Get a man with 3 dicks

>> No.27410248

>>27381059
Hololive is obviously better if you lack clout
Vshojo would only be better if they pay huge amounts for a 1-2 year contract once you already hit it big

>> No.27419687

>>27381059
Hololive, far more money, probably better sponsors and may even help on career choices like voice acting.

Sucks for the game permission but meh.

>> No.27419876

>>27381059
Hololive, easily. It'll net you a much larger audience, plus better merchandise and advertisement deals. All you need to do is keep away from politics and men. Not particularly difficult.

>> No.27420004

Assuming it would be possible for me to have the same mindset I have now if I were a woman, I'd rather join Hololive since I wouldn't want to do anything they don't approve of anyway. And I'd much rather meet and work with the Hololive members than the Vshojo members.

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>>27408020

Build up a years-long stable monogamous relationship based around trust, reliability and managing a household as team, rather than merely based on romantic/sexual attraction. Then get into swinging or wifesharing.
All the swinger couples I've met are totally businesslike, stable and rational pairs that don't just implode by having sex with other people.

>> No.27424498

>>27395231
You make it sound better yes

>> No.27426147

>>27381059
hololive is literally free money

>> No.27426534

Hololive because i don't like twitch

>> No.27429632

>>27381059
I'd get kicked out of both because I'm a stubborn piece of shit that wants to do things my way

>> No.27430304

Vshojo because you actually get to own your model and IP.

>> No.27430700

>>27381059
Independent. Not sure I'd want to test the extents of "do what you want" with VShojo.

>> No.27431885

>>27399785
I think they'd still kick you out if you went TOO far, like using gamer words even IN context.

>> No.27432516

>>27381059
Hololive, obviously. Any other answer is cope. You'd want the cash.

>> No.27432839

Hololive
Creative freedom is a meme, it has never existed in a society. If its not your boss its someone else who will tell you what you can and what you cannot do, the only difference is that your audience has to suffer your personal dramas.

>> No.27433238

>>27382654
>>27408269
You are awate the norm of the east is not the same as the norm over here right? Hololive is normalfag for asian standards but certainly not for the west; thats like saying radical islam is normalfag because of its sheer numbers.

>> No.27433925

>>27381059
Hololive, vshojo is not remotely as established and their reputation amongst hardcore fans is unanimously bad. They rely on people being literally fucking totally ignorant (see the Japanese) or just not caring enough for their numbers/income. Ironmouse is sold and packaged like she's a make-a-wish kid. It's all very contrived and fake, the whole thing feels like a house of cards held up by bravado and the talents being stubborn bitches. Hololive is the real deal, the real reason this scene took off, they're the Harvard of targets to get into.

>> No.27434440

>>27381059
Am I already well known? Vshojo. Their deal with Kson is probably is you can keep all your money and we will pay you as well give you other benefits. (free travel to events and shit like that) If I'm unknown then hololive.. Women don't have real friends so I wouldn't join either based only on talents in them.

>> No.27434603

>>27381909
You're that vtuber that only has 12 views per stream

>> No.27435121

>>27381059
I don't need to do anything when I join Vshojo, just watch youtube videos and sleep on stream. Tongue fuck a microphone and upload it to patreon too. Requires no fucking effort at all

>> No.27435218

>>27381059
Holo,
seiso and a steady check are unfathomably long-run good.

>> No.27435323

>>27381059
Hololive and it's not even close.
>basically guaranteed free money as long as you aren't totally retarded and break your contract like rushia
>even the "failures" still get more than other agencies usually do

>> No.27435623

>>27381059
Vshojo so I can orbit Connor. He's so dreamy.

>> No.27436334
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>>27406035
I understand this post.

>> No.27436340

Rather go indie because I don't want to deal with corporate shit

>> No.27436491

>>27382137
this
The big thing is not having to ask for permissions. (games, collabs, etc)

>> No.27436637

>>27436491
The only reason they don't have to ask for permissions is because they are so small and irrelevant the corporations haven't bothered to DMCA them.

>> No.27436823

You know it's funny how low the vshojo standards are. For pretty much any other company someone who openly violated their NDA like rushia would be completely unhireble.

>> No.27440850

Hololive so I can have lesbian sex with Reine

>> No.27440982

>>27384590
>vtuber
>GFE
>dignity
You're set of values is really fucked up and inconsistent

>> No.27441025

Production Kawaii

>> No.27441047

>>27381638
Aussie hands typed this post

>> No.27441107

>>27381059
hololive probably, seems like a much more fufilling, friendly, and less hostile choice.

>> No.27444544

>>27381059
Holo, quality of models, hardware

>> No.27444606

vshojo because holo fans are fucking spergs and normalfags

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>>27381059
I would join Nijisanji.

>> No.27450622

>>27381059
Hololive, because I dont want to use Twitch as my main streaming platform

>> No.27450763

>>27381059
Hololive because of better management and less drama. All of the drama that comes from hololive is from Mori, Rushia killing her holo career, or permissions autism. Vsj has so much drama its unreal, with the politics shit and the piss poor management I wouldn't want to be with them.

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