Holocure: Save the Fans!

[Anonymous No.]

A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update. You can still play and brag about your score here though so we don't clutter up other threads

Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
https://rentry.org/vehan

Previous thread:
>>27195318

>Upcoming streams
Miko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veE2Q2_0qJc
Flare: https://youtu.be/GlfJQ22nhF4

>Past Streams:
Reine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olAmtV1fDd0
Watame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qK5cURIbEI
Kaela: https://youtu.be/D7fVrNePpNE
Zeta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3QnXpM3BZ4
Ollie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwM8-P2t8sM
Anya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ_y_Am4O3A

[Anonymous No.]

PLEASE MAKE LUNA PLAYABLE

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/b709qbFB9BE Also Noel's frame just went up

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>>27231941
it'll be too late anon..

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>how I feel when using Bae's special late in the game
It's great. Wish you could have both Light Beam and Idol Concert for maximum rave vibe.

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>>27232145
Idol concert bugs when you use Bae's special, it only two of the eight glowsticks because it resets before it can fire the other eight

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>>27232211
Never noticed. I usually go for Light Beam.

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On the topic of elite cooking being too strong, it's strength comes from the fact that like "La Borra" from vampire survivors it stacks upon itself, so you can have multiple layers of damage hitting enemies at once.

The only balancing options for it short of a full rework would be to drastically increase it's damage but not allow it to stack, which would just make it MiComet but smaller, or to lower it's damage significantly which would just make it terrible.

I would argue that rather than nerfing elite cooking a better solution would be to buff MiComet since currently it's massively overshadowed by both Elite Cooking and BL Fujoshi.

I think making it a single huge impact with damage ludicrously high upfront damage and a minor dot would be the way to do it without it infringing too much on either elite cooking or flattening board's design space too much.

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>>27232466
The problem with elite cooking is spider cooking, up until smol ame you literally just have to stand
I think it needs to be nerfed before introducing more collabs with it

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>>27232875
That's not even true though, it takes several ticks to kill anything after the Q phase. The damage isn't even the reason spider cooking is good.

If you can just stand still with spider cooking you're playing Mumei with awakened feathers.

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>>27232466
if i wanted a loadout with the most damage ticks possible on screen, and scales with haste, do I keep elite bucket without collabing it?

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>>27232211
>>27232269
Well that's pretty gay. Hopefully it's an easy fix and gets patched soon, assuming he even knows about it.

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Elite Cooking is the worst collab because it visually looks the most uninteresting, and you can't prove me otherwise

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The double collab bug appears to be fixed. I got all four of these items to level 7 by camping on some anvils to test it. I didn't get the screenshot in time, but I had them all at 7 before the first golden anvil spawned. Now I've got both collabs done.

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>>27233654
This is true

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how do i cash out my winning?

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>>27234392
Pray for bad RNG before the game crashes or kill yourself by setting your health to a negative value with CheatEngine.

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What is the mask a reference too?
Why would you get more damage wearing a mask?

The only item I don't get.

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>>27234495
>before the game crashes
seriously?

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>>27234551
It's more likely for the game to crash than you actually die, yes. You can google how to kill yourself with cheat engine though, you have time.

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>>27234606
>You can google how to kill yourself with cheat engine
thanks found it they call it INAfinite lmao

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Hey everybody. I made this thread, if you guys are interested.
>>27233129

I'm currently ripping sprites right now. If there's any HoloCure sprites you guys want me to get for you, just ask and I'll deliver!

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>>27234667
post the gamers

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>>27234667
All holo mugshots that appear in the left top corner

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>>27234667
>>27234767
This. I dunno if gifs of any of their animations is too much work but it'd be sweet. Hit us with that tasty datamine.

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So what exactly do I build on Irys?

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>>27234667
So that Mio sprite in the last thread was legit? Based anon if true.

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>>27234953
The same shit you build on every other character.

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>>27234667
Did you figure out how to enable debug mode yet? :^)

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>>27234953
>>27234996
Pretty much this. She gets a little more use than most characters out of dragonfire but it's worthless against Yagoos. If you're trying to beat stage mode it doesn't matter, if you're trying to get to 30 minutes get a couple collabs, then keep some knockback weapons unevolved and get survivability passives, if you're trying to survive past 30 minutes pray because you're not playing Gura or Ina.

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I feel like I wouldn't understand a word Migo was saying even if I spoke fluent Japanese.

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>>27234667
lol

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>>27234509
The only logic I can glean from it is that people wearing masks when committing crimes is a common trope in Japan before the Coof happened. Aside from Japanese folks using it for standard cold season, it's been associated with shady activity and mischief so maybe it's associated with that?
Like you're able to be more violent knowing your identity is obscured a bit?

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>>27235169
That's not necessarily bad

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>>27231842
Any cheat, hack or save editor?

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>>27234392
How is this possible? Why won't ina die? And you only have 1 collab wtf

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https://youtu.be/m6xJ8yzcdUo
Marine's holocure

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>>27235169
There are times when a linear search is appropriate. I hope this is one of them.

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>>27235294
>1 collab
Get your eyes checked, anon-kun

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>>27235169
O(n) is fine. You can't just use a hash table for everything.

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Every single JP girl does that little quiet "heh" after they read Gura's "chibi" skill. Never gets old.

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>>27235139
Most nips at least get the gist of what she's saying.

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>>27235244
>>27235425
>>27235470
isn't it just .contains()

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Tell me about the Miko. Why does she not attack the mobs?

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>>27234788
Here's a zipped folder of the 11 portraits - https://files.catbox.moe/zw1axm.zip

The sprites are very tiny tho (image size is like 43 x 37). Just keep that in mind, because that's how most of these game's ripped sprites are.

>>27234767
I didn't find anything else besides Fubuki's idle sprites. Nothing was labelled Korone, Mio, or Okayu.

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>>27235590
elite reason

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>>27235647
Thanks.

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>>27235294
He has two.

That said collabs are over rated, particularly the meme of getting 3 or 4 of them. You need a couple of them for damage, as they're objectively the best at that, but most of them lose their knockback, so it's better to keep things like plug and book uncollabed if you're planning to push into Yagoo territory.

As for why Ina doesn't die, the final level of her Ancient One passive makes it so the Takodachi's she spawns heals her, it's effected by haste so it's regularly popping Yagoos, and the Takodachi's count as kills for the purposes of horns and are triggering the invulnerability of the plush, so the Yagoo's never actually touch her.

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>>27234667
what did they mean by this

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>>27235590
She can't get the hang of strafing

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>>27234953
>>27235087
I would actually advise a single collab, then focus on getting to stat boosts. Irys's biggest weakness currently is she has no damage mitigation, since Hope doesn't block the hits it procs from. As such, survival means having a massive HP pool to survive hits, and since neither of her heals trigger on kills, she can still partially heal up while you slowly take out the Yagoo's to proc horn.

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>>27235647
>I didn't find anything else besides Fubuki's idle sprites. Nothing was labelled Korone, Mio, or Okayu.
So (pic related) is just a fan creation?

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>>27235737
lol. I came across that one too.

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>>27235768
No, the actual base sprites are in the game. You can actually adjust the contrast on the Gatcha screen to see them all (which is where that was pulled from).

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I think Miko has severe tunnel vision problems

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>>27235590
Not as bad as Kaela who, 5 fucking hours into her stream, was still running away from clumps of enemies in a straight line for over a minute at a time. Never made the connection between not killing enemies -> not getting experience -> falling behind and getting overwhelmed.

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>>27232145
Bae's special is super powerful even in the early game

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My God, she's so bad.

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>>27235892
Mikos ability to walk straight into giant crowds of enemies and react by walking into MORE of them is kind of amazing

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>>27235768
Yeah, it's fanmade. Like I said before, I didn't find anything labelled Mio.

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>datamining a fangame
Impressive

[Anonymous No.]

What would the mobs be for each JP gen's respective stages?

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>>27235896
True, but I was joking about how you can't see shit when using it after you get a some maxed weapons/collabs, which is hilarious and very satisfying.

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>>27235956
what's wrong with that?

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>>27235956
Even if you're being sarcastic, it is unironically impressive that people care enough to.

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>>27234667
i wonder if it's possible to mod HoloCure using this tool, the way it has been used for undertale and deltarune. i remember playing about with the scripting functionality when DR chapter 1 came out, and back then it required you to use assembly iirc, but it seems to use something like C# now (possibly GML? game maker's inbuilt language) which is much more palatable

dunno, maybe i'll bash my ahead against it later and see if i can make anything work

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>Holocure rape mods

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>>27236085
It's comforting to know even if Kay Yu abandons the project before getting everyone in, or loses his nuts and doesn't put in the graduates the means exists for other talented people to resolve the issue.

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>>27236184
Just change the game over screen into a ramdom h art of said charater

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>>27235768
>>27235872
yeah

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>>27236384
I love that he shortcutted making the banners by just pasting the base sprites onto them and fucking with the contrast. I love shit like that.

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MIKO DID IT

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Hoiw the fuck did Miko survive getting blasted by fubuzilla twice?

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>>27236760
Elite.

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>>27236760
kiara has 90 base hp it just made her survive two blasts

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>>27236760
Kiara's shield passive has saved her more than a few times.

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>picks Dancer
>keeps stopping

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>>27236760
Kiara is a big girl

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>>27237154
>>27237154
>>27237154
>>27237154

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>>27235737
Next map

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So I got a prompt to level up as soon as I beated stage mode. The menu for level up was active but hidden behind the Cleared Stage menu, and as soon as I made a choice the game kept going with the ending screen active, but untouchable. The game continued in this state and I couldn't level up or touch anvils, but the score and money kept being updated on the ending screen. Once I died, the Game Over screen appeared behind the Cleared Stage screen and both where active. Don't know if it's a rare occurence or not, but it was a fun experience.

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>>27234667
look at her go!

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>>27237250
suddenly the horizontal only moves make more sense

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MIKO YOU LUCKSHITTER

[Anonymous No.]

>Played with Sana for the first time
Got almost 10 anvils in 10 minutes
What the hell is this luck

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>>27237640
The RNG gives and the RNG takeths

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Miko found Mumeis Ult. Excellent

[Anonymous No.]

Mooms claims another

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>>27237640
you're welcome
in return sana will be your oshi now

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>>27237250
That's a library. As in the VS stage.

Sick. That's the best stage anyway.

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migo...

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>>27237789
She is my Oshi's nepotism hire does that count
I wish they'd collab again

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will korone play like fauna but instead of saplings there will be yubis to collect

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>>27237789
sana is my lewd fanart oshi

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Migo pls...

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Why do they just stop moving?

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>miko had no reaction to the huge a-chan sprite in the shop menu
Rrats?

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>>27238267
I wanna know why sometimes there's this huge field of experience with not really any enemies and then they just go in the complete opposite direction

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>>27238311
Tunnel vision.

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>>27235244
>>27235425
>>27235470
not sure if it's o(n) because it's calling array_length() function in each iteration.
this is more o(n)-like.

var arrLen = array_length(argument0);
for (var i = 0; i < arrLen; i++)
\\ the rest of the code


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>>27238311
tunnel vision, and Miko is particularly susceptible to it

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https://youtu.be/GlfJQ22nhF4
Flare holocure in abit

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>>27238311
that's the correct way to stream the game

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holocure is a solved game. no reason to keep playing any more

[Anonymous No.]

JUST PRESS THE X YOU DUMB MIKO

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>>27238719
the array_length function itself is O(n)

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>>27239119
until the next update comes

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>>27239119
oh yeah? how do you beat endless with kiara (no other unlocks)

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>>27235472
Compilation when?

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Cant you pretty much get to 40-50 min with anyone as long as you're a grind monkey/CE user who maxed out your shop and G20'd said character?

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>>27239919
No can do unless you have some god-tier sustain. Maybe I need to try 500hp run for everyone first before i can say this.

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>>27239919
no lol
retard cat poster

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>Watching Flare
>Surrounded by enemies
>Doesnt take the obvious hole out
>Panics and freezes taking more hits instead of walking through one

This happens so much with so many Holos

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>Come home from work
>Watch Miko Holocure Stream
>Watch Noel Holocure Stream
>Watch Flare Holocure stream
>Play holocure until it's time for bed

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>>27240276
>Missing a sliver of health
>Beeline for the burger instead of trying to level up

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>>27240276
Also love how they take history over civilization with mumei all the time even though the history buff maybe gives them 1-5% at that stage

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are you cured yet anon?

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>>27240425
That I can get. Sometimes crunching those numbers can be hard for people. Its just amazing how many of them make the EXACT same mistakes. Its gotta be something cultual like being so risk adverse that they make these same mistakes over and over

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>>27239919
>>27239119
This is obviously bait, but I'll bite.

Currently there are only two characters in the game that even have the potential to live past 30 minutes with any consistency, and both require a pretty significant amount of RNG to get rolling.

That said living to an hour, 30 minutes into the Yagoozone is /technically/ possible on Kronii and Irys too, albeit with even more RNG and strategies.

The hunt for a way to get the other characters there, if it's even numerically possible, is plenty of reason to still be playing, even if it didn't just get a full character rework patch literally yesterday.

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>went out for 15 minutes right as Flare starts
>Miko already over
fuck

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Two minutes in and she's already higher level than she ever got with Ame

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>>27240386
>i dont work.

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Why is Marine playing fucking Nintendo Switch Sports instead of Holocure? Is she stupid?

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>>27240612
giwtwm

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>>27240619
>marine
>playing trending game

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>>27240619
Gotta spread those Golds out

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>>27240539
its true. I was just baiting in order for you to spoonfeed me and you fell for it like a retard

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>>27240619
kill yourself stupid nigger go back to # or whatever ESL shithole you came from

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So what's the meta right now? Will there be PvP?

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM9DOHUyLH1bF-BrPxDzCUQ/videos
>last video: 2 months ago
what went wrong

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>>27240719
yowch!

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>>27240619
the trend died already

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>>27240619
Marine never want play trend game
She hates compettition

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>>27240726
The exact same thing that went wrong with EngLIVE

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>>27240726
>trans clips
joined the 41% LMAOOOOO frfr

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>>27241387
HoloMyth say trans rights! Cope!

[Anonymous No.]

Is Idol Concert noticeably better than the glowstick beam combo dps wise?

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>>27237737
>>27237782
Kek

https://youtu.be/apL5kxZ_QQA

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>>27231842
Fucking Kan yu faggot micomet fag. Knowing pekora advertise your bootleg vampire game, you should feel ashamed for not ciao! including her in every update you made. Fucking disgusting.

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I WANT THE COCO UPDATE SO BAD

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>>27243187
Cope that no one cares for your meme rabbit

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>holocure has its own dataminers and leakers already
>we have even /g/ people searching for bad code
INCLINING

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>>27242449
Why not just give the timestamp from the stream retarded clip watcher

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>>27243329
>No one cares
Fuck you ENfaggot. You should feel ashamed you chuuba only comeback playing the buff game and you tolerate this kind of stupid attitude.

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>>27243519
But I'm 35Pchad, I hate EN whores even more than meme rabbit

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>>27243696
And fuck you for being so micometfaggot. Your opinion is nonsense to me if you're not ka yu stop talking to me.

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>>27243353
Hololive runs this board

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>>27243785

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Why isn't there a single Pekora reference in the game? Does the dev hate her?

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>>27243986
Isn't the explosive a Pekora reference?

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Holocure

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>>27243986
>is a miCometfag
>does the dev hate Pekora

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>>27243398
stream isn't translated "retard"

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https://youtu.be/xoQfOBdKKt0
SHION HOLOCURE

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>>27243986
there is zero gen3 reference in the game, let alone pekora
no the flattening board isn't rushia, and the BL book is anemachi thing

[Anonymous No.]

How viable is the strat to run downwards to escape enemies until 30:00 onwards?

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I cannot get the fucking stage bgm out of my head.

I wake up I hear it already.

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>>27244488
you're here forever

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>>27244485
About the same as running upwards

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>>27244364
nothing personal Peko

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>>27244451
Noel's milk

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>>27243187
>>27243785
You can't even spell his name correctly.

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>>27243986
Peko chose this when she banned Miko from her streams and from her life.

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>>27244451
So Knightly Milk doesn't exist now?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that if you used Mumei, Mori, Plushie or Choco Horns then you didn't beat the game

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>>27244976
go back to /erg/ you sweaty tryhard

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>>27244756
Why do I need to give a fucking importance to his name.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone suggest me how to survive pass 33 minutes with Fauna? I have been using her with no luck.

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>>27245140
no :)

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>>27245140
likely impossible

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>>27245140
fauna needs more dps
replace the idol uniform with credit card and hope for as many anvils as possible, maybe?

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>>27240539
>a pretty significant amount of RNG to get rolling.
Honestly not really, unless you get absolutely FUCKED by RNG you'll surely get the basic build before minute 30.

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Ame just smashed her gigantic ass on to Flare's face

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>>27245140
More collabs, can't you combine the fanbeam with idol song for idol concert? Wouldn't that be better than idol song and fanbeam by themselves due to being omnidirectional

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>>27245316
kek

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>>27245140
My best attempt so far
Unlike Ina, the longer you survive the harder for Fauna

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>>27244024
We've been over this before, the bomb is so innocuous it could be any minecraft JP.
Hell my first thought when thinking of TNT and Minecraft from HL is Miko trying to blast Pekora back to Pekoland which was all Miko's idea.
>>27244883
>So Knightly Milk doesn't exist now?
Sure as hell doesn't exist for my runs.

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>>27245333
Idol Concert = Glowstick + Idol Song
Fan Beam can only collab into Dragon Fire and Light Beam.

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it's gonna be a challenge to make 50+ holos and keep the skills somewhat original
especially curious to see what gen0 will get as starting weapons

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>>27245600
FUck I'm drunk and always mix up fanbeam and glowsticks.
Even then I'd rather have taken light beam over idol song and fanbeam by themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>Still need to max out upgrades
>Still need to get Sana (despite her being my second least favorite member in the current cast)
>Still need to gacha upgrade Myth/Council/Irys to 10+
>Gamers soon
NGMI bros.

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I need to test something

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone has a character tier list yet?

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If this shitty indie game is making such a buzz, just imagine how big a Hololive fighting game would be. Holy...

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>>27246164
would be cool but it's a dead genre

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>>27246164
Small but cult follow

The vs formula is more approchable to casual gamers

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>>27246061
Ina > Gura > everyone > Kiara

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>>27244451
Marine's hat is literally on the BL book. One item can reference multiple things, see Cutting Board

[Anonymous No.]

>max out credit card
>actually get even less anvils than normal
COOL GAME

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>>27245899
let me guess, you love amelia watson because you have a fetish for retarded girls?

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>>27246164
Fighting games are trash. Nobody cares.

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>>27246164
Someone should make an SRB2 Hololive pack. Way less effort than making a new game (duh) and Im sure plenty of sprites for them already exist

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SRB2 Kart, I mean

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>>27246523
No. I have a fetish for depressed girls. She's just like me.

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>>27246681
Fr fr

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ok so I tested it and ghost tako indeed triggers plushie, in hardcore mode too no less
it's not guaranteed to proc though and it doesn't work if you have body pillow

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>>27246846
they can also trigger headphones for the aoe knockback, absorbing them count as kills for horns and the instakill still drops xp

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>>27246061
For stage: Mumei > everyone else
For endless: Ina or Gura > everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

Got bored, here's some numbers
- Character damage includes their unique ATK modifier, so are accurate to them
- Weapon damage uses a flat 1 damage modifier, so multiply the damage number by the characters ATK Mod to get damage on them specifically
- All numbers are multiplied by a random number between 0.7 and 1.3 before being applied
- Kiara and Iyrs's attacks are split into multi-hit, no idea how that affects damage
- Bae is based on rolling a 1, damage is multiplied by the number that appears, applied AFTER the variance (dunno why)
- I might look into collabs later, but it's more difficult to test

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>>27246368
Miko got to level 40 with Kiara, retard.

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>>27246480
>falling for the placebo meme card
you only have yourself to blame

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>>27247186
Hi Kiara

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>>27246846
Good.

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>>27246989
Shit playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances every girl stop playing when they add Rushia?

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>>27247845
about 7

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>>27247845
>when they add Rushia?
So never ever?

[Anonymous No.]

Gentlemen, how do we fix Ubersheep?

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>>27248086
Ubersheep did nothing wrong.

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>>27248086
make it drops an anvil instead of a burger

[Anonymous No.]

who are the the holos the won't even touch the game?

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>>27248086
It delivers more than just food.

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>>27248086
Make it have a decent chance to drop anvils or Holozon boxes, maybe even random stat powerups.

Also create a sprite of Watame in a scooter for it.

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>>27248175
Sana because that requires streaming.

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>Mumei
>750%

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>>27248175
Ame

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>>27248086
>>27248160
>>27248190
>>27248238
It's a catch 22. As it is now it's pretty much useless, overlapped by the upgrade in the shop.
But the only fixes we can think of would break the game.

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>>27248262
Yeah, her History skill has 3 bugs right now. And you aren't even abusing one of them. You could be at +1346 if you had Sake, or +1942 if you had Sake and Piman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248175
amelia, haachama and the whore from 2nd gen whose name I don't remember

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248086
Just make the food it delivers give some sort of temporary buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248332
I don't think extra anvils or chests would break the game, rate can be adjusted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248410
How's that work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248262

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248566
For whatever spaghetti reason, if you have the Sake buff and it gets knocked off, Mumei's bonus ATK from History is doubled. If you have Sake and Piman, it's tripled. It resets every time you level up but hey, easy enough to just take another hit to re-amp it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248238
>Also create a sprite of Watame in a scooter for it.
That would be weird when Watame is playable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248762
Okay make it one of watame's sheep things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248703
>Korone and Lamy complain their items are too weak
>this happens
Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27245140
Get dragonbreath and mow down the yagoos so you walk and pick up the saplings
Got 1shotted for some reason at 1k hp

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248086
Increase drop rates
Healing based on hp% instead of flat hp
Now it will be a must for yagoos

[Anonymous No.]

Shion unlock the fucking special attack kudasai

[Anonymous No.]

>>27168201


I don't think 'cheating' is the right word exactly; rather, interesting mechanical interactions like this are exactly what a game system should have, and you should make the more common in more places, rather than cut them down into yet another form of rock-paper-scissors.
Most contemporary games today, especially competitive and or multiplayer ones, make this mistake, which is a proximal element of why they almost always become more shitty over time.

There's something that's just so indefinably satisfying about having a realization of, "wouldn't X be really strong if combined with Y while doing Z?", and trying it out, and finding it works.

I think a simple but illustrative example of this would be from, back in 2006, the double strike mechanic in WoW classic. If you had say a 5% proc chance, then besides autoattacks and weapon specials applying a chance, the bonus swing itself would also have that same 5% chance to proc. Meaning sometimes, if the stars aligned, you could get two or even three bonus strikes at once. Statistically speaking this did not make a big difference in the long run, but the simple fact that it was possible just felt good and natural and gratifying.

[Anonymous No.]

SANA BROS WW@
DO NOTHING
WIN

[Anonymous No.]

Yagoo please
I long for death

[Anonymous No.]

Why are the JPs hesitant on taking skills over weapons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249788
because they don't read the damn skills and still think this is vampire survivors where weapons are proiritzed

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Ninomae "The Flattest" Ina'nis considered cheating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249959
She has a build that litcherally makes her untouchable

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249959
Takodachi replace her torn flesh faster than anything, even yagoo, can kill her, assuming she has the succu horns and over 400 or so health

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248514
I already find it hard enough to get Anvil drops as it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249994
give me the build and what to prioritize
also 20-20 on the gacha with her right? I need to farm coins but is so hard and tedious

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248086
It'll be better once Gamers get added and Okayu gets stat buffs from eating

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249959
she isn't, it's just one guy claiming it's cheating

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249959
instakill aoe that heals you and scales with attack speed

[Anonymous No.]

Would matsuri have a bandaid item or skill

Since that's how I found her and got into holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249959
see >>27249696
It's possible to build her such that she literally cannot die even if she ants to

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249831
To be fair prioritizing weapon collabs first is generally the right idea in this game too, since not getting your damage up at a sufficient rate with the level scaling is probably one of the biggest run-killing mistakes new players make; exceptions to this rule usual involve skills that also significantly increase DPS in some way, or sources of healing if you don't already have one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27248426
>>27248175
you sound like discord raiders

[Anonymous No.]

>>27250379
I always go for Callie's death skill asap since it just pops hordes of weak mooks like they're nothing

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck do i get past 20-25 ish mins with kiwawa??
the most coins i get per session is 4.5k its fucking SHIT, the hardcore upgrade does fuck all because i can barely get past the time to even capitalize on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27250618
Lmao good luck, mommy Kiwawa is ass

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0VNnG422iU

While watching holocure vods the google botnet put this 10view in my feed, and i watched it, so now i feel obligated to shill her. Just this once though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27250917
huh funny story actually because she was brought up a couple of times in /#/ as an example of the holobuff because of stuff like this, so your algo might have been influenced by this

[Anonymous No.]

Is Holocure the BIGGESTEST game / fan made / anything made by fans ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251027
I don't doubt it. I've started seeing some videos that look suspiciously like bot generated content pop up as well; it's a common thing to see whenever a fotm makes a splash in the oceans of data.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251237
Not just that, it's the biggest game of all time ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251237
Lmao no

Remarkablely polished tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>27249658
>no milk
you haven't even unlocked her true potential

[Anonymous No.]

>milk best on mori and sana
>milk worst on gura and ina
what dev mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251237
For hololive? Sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251495
drink less milk

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251495

[Anonymous No.]

They should add Ironmouse and NijiEN as secret characters, imagine the HoloJP girls reacting to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251777
they shouldn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251495
It should give them even more of a bonus
If cutting board can play favorites then why not milk

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251777
They should add my dick to u're ass as a secret character lmao gottem

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251816
>>27251949
The lead dev already interacted with Ironmouse on Twitter and said he's adding her, cope!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27252023
you forgot your purple dragon reaction image mate

[Anonymous No.]

>Use Gooua in endless for first time
>5 or 6 of my holozon boxes are triples
>Beat my best by 1 whole minute
>Walk the dog
>Come back
>Post in thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251495
That's not even correct since you should always have flattening board on gura and ina and milk is good with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27250917
>Shilling a brit bong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27252703
They talk stupid and for some reason that makes me want to dick them down more

[Anonymous No.]

>>27232466
Nah the biggest problem with Spider Cooking, is the fact the item only have one collab option that is Elite Cooking. And anyone would instantly pick it up because it gives you a lot of defensive damage option midgame with no targeting, so it has to be strong enough for people to take it. Just like BL book, where it can only combined with Axe, so Micomet gets shafted when you want to set up silly shit like Bae ult. Not to mention Spider Cooking also inflicts knockback, Sana mains can just afk 10 minutes in when they get the right skills and Spider Cooking levels in time.
For example, I like Light Beam because of its damage procs and rate of attack, but Ui Beam is needed for Dragon Fire, and I had to settle with Idol Penlight, second worst collab next to Breathe-In Type Asacoco. All the same issue with limited collab options. You can tell when new players who know jackshit about Hololive wanted more options of collab weapons because the selection is just too limited.

I would say DOT weapons should not be able to crit, or at least the pulse tickrate lowered and the damage bumped up. It just ruins build diversity when certain weapon type gets busted Rate of Attack, and its an AOE type. (except Dragon Fire, which is a unique directional cone attack).

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251495
Milk is literally good on everyone.
>Increases Weapon size
>With a bonus 2 and 1/2 copies of Draw Rate up

[Anonymous No.]

>>27252774
Don't even need to get lucky desu, you can max her planet and take a single level of gravity to bet to 20 minutes with minimal input

Only dicey spots are the first skeleton ring, takodachi wall, skeleton spiral, and fubuzilla

Past that you can afk

[Anonymous No.]

>>27252774
Dragon Fire is fun and I hope there are more weapons in the future that require some active input.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27250618
Hardcore actually spawns more coin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27251495
That really doesn't check out. Out of the available bunch Kronii is definitely bigger than Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27235766
nice build, i just copy it and get 35 min for the first time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27252623
>5 triple boxes
> didn't even reach Yagoo

[Anonymous No.]

You think they'll put in a built in streaming mechanic for poorfags who don't own any recording software?

[Anonymous No.]

>Perfect kit, has everything they could reasonably want in 3 skills
Ina
Gura

>Linear kits, but with tools so powerful that it barely matters
Mumei
Mori

>Strong, versatile kits that are just missing one or two things that would elevate them to top tier
Bae
IRyS
Sana

>Bae but a bit weaker and less flexible
Ame

>Mostly coherent kits with glaring weaknesses, lacking in some key aspect that really hurts them
Fauna
Kronii

>LMAO
Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>27254802
what the hell are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>27254802
>for poorfags who don't own any recording software?
Isn't OBS free?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27254802
OBS is free nigga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27252790
I thought the increase was on aoes only?

[Anonymous No.]

Iroha will have the Jugdement Cut Special.

[Anonymous No.]

I was watching some new members stream it recently and I noticed quite a lot has changed.

Its there anything of note that was changed to reinstall it? Since I have seen mostly visual changes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255196
Mori lost her sustain for a meme Mumei kit with explosions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255049
It technically enlarges the sprite on every weapon in the game, but not every weapons hitbox is effected by the size of it's sprite. But the short answer is it works on basically everything, there's almost no build you can make that doesn't get some use out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255635
>but not every weapons hitbox is effected by the size of it's sprite.
kek what
the game looks polished but it has a lot of weird stuff under the hood

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255545
>The worst character which never worked for something that does

I mean I get that she is a little too simple now but she was far and away the worst character before and the changes were a vast improvement. She also still isnt as braindead easy as Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255868
>Worst character
Mori was always better than Kiara, despite the cries of low skill dead beats wanting a more brainless kit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255868
>>27255976
Also
>She also still isnt as braindead easy as Mumei
You're right. She's easier. At least Mumei has to be careful to focus on one weapon at a time to get the most out of friend.

[Anonymous No.]

rib in peace

[Anonymous No.]

>>27246164
Anon see how many holos that mainly plays fightan games, they can stream GG and capcom fighters but you can count then with just one hand.
KOF like holo game would be sick with 2d sprites but niche genre for average holofans. Not to mention fighterfags seeing vtubers in their face yeah they definitely don't bitch and seethe about it right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255806
That's actually pretty normal, as far as internal design goes. Weapons that target a specific enemy don't technically deal any damage in an "area" so their hitbox being bigger does nothing, a good example is awakened Mumei feathers, which because of how the ricochet changes their targeting, actually directly target individual enemies rather than damaging anything they pass through.

If there's later a girl that, for example, calls down a beam of light on random enemies as their weapon, that weapon would likely have the beam get visibly bigger, but it would only ever deal damage the the targeted enemy (though a weapon like that would probably have an upgrade to make it deal damage in a small area rendering this point moot). I believe that's how Fauna's roots work as well.

It's likely just easier to have it increase the size of everything's sprite than to specifically code items to be affected by it or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255976
I wish they'd kept the old scythe hitbox gimmick, it gave it more personality. Maybe they could have made enemies that were too close get pushed back a bit by the swing

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256203
Or make her like Marth. Sour spot up close, sweet spot at the edge of her swing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256277
That's definitely gonna be the gimmick of one of the later girls. Probably one of the ones with swords. Iroha maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27254802
The two most popular stream apps are free and have built in recording

>>27255049
All weapons that currently exist are considered area type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256203
I think this is a valid point, but the Myth girls are clearly designed to be introductory characters for the most part.

I'm not saying having a deadzone is too complex of a mechanic to have on a starting character but I think being kind of braindead suits Calli's character a lot better than making her a skill tester.

I do agree even pre buff she was better than Kiara though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27254884
I like Kiara's play style, but it just isn't viable past smol ame. That shield skill needs a rework.
Maybe add a aoe pulse knock back, I dunno...

[Anonymous No.]

> Build her kit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256668
I mentioned a thread or two ago that I'd like to see it be a flat damage reduction with some kind of contact benefit like throwing off little trailblazer fires so she can charge through enemies to maintain dancer stacks.

Her special should probably also heal her or something, since basically none of her kit has anything related to the phoenix's core shtick of rebirth and regeneration.

They're probably saving the actual revive thing for a kiara themed item to be released later for the drop pool, since that's something most games like this have available as an upgrade for all characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256801
>melon bomb
>sheep stampede
>something with food like burger or chips
>shogun something

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256801
Throws watermelons

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256116
A holofight game could work if it were a smash game, issue with that is fan smash games don’t have a good track record

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256992
what if holo get in the next smash game

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256939
What is her special?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256801
>ranged attacks with her harp
>passive 1 respawn in 8 seconds after being killed with a 2 minute cooldown or something
>passive 2 membersheep convert any mobs you killed into watamates for 5 seconds, watamates does something
>passive 3 watame nightfever buffs for something
>ultimate watame horn drills

[Anonymous No.]

>Marine gets added
>Her skills revolve around farming money (pirate plunder)
>Still not as good at farming as Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>27246164
Hololive wrestling game

[Anonymous No.]

>>27246164
>>27257320
Hololive wrestling hgame

[Anonymous No.]

>>27257244
the stampede I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>27256801
Weapon is Watamelon, lobs a melon in front of her. Awakened version scatters seeds for a fraction of it's damage but good for shotgunning bosses.

First skill removes healing for food, in exchange for giving her xp when she picks it up, higher levels give her a bigger xp yield for eating food.

Second skill summons watamates to run around on screen like bubba, first one, then two, then three. They deal a little contact damage but insane knockback.

Third skill restores health (to compensate for a lack of access to food) and gains 1% to a random stat on each level up, applies retroactively (to random stats), higher levels are 2% and 3%

Special is horn drill, creates an air vortex that vacuums enemies into her while she becomes invulnerable dealing contact damage and gaining a bunch of move speed for 10 seconds. Knocks back all nearby enemies at the end of the duration, but they always get knocked towards her facing so she doesn't just surround herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27231842
You know what I find so interesting about watching holos stream this game, you can almost predict entirely who their first choice for myth/council will be based on who they interact/are friends with, like Shion instantly gravitating to Gura or people like Lamy going Ina

[Anonymous No.]

is there any character tier list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27258037
yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>27258037
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>27258091
>>27258117
, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27258037
Mumei SSS tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>27258037
See >>27254884

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the moneygrind build for Mumei? Best I can do seems to be 4K or so plus bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27258665
Max feather, roll as hard as possible for glasses, you need them before 5 minutes even on a bad run, sub 3 would be ideal. Don't pick up coins until you get superchat to max rank, let Friend pick up your xp, avoid non-feather weapons except for spider cooking if you must take something. Get all the passive skills, prioritizing the ones that are easy to get to cap, the 1 and 3 level ones. You're just trying to fill up your passive slots so that gold will start showing up in level up rewards, take it every time you see it. At about 15 minutes start looking for lava bucket so you can evolve spider cooking before the 19 minute wave.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone getting a code error,


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[Anonymous No.]

>>27254884
I'm just happy my Oshi is top tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27255174
BURY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIIIIIIIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27260093
Based Umiseafag

[Anonymous No.]

How much pickup range do you need to reach the entire screen? I'm at 600%

[Anonymous No.]

Holocure Holomem Stream Checklist
>First picks Ina
>Comment on the Yagoo statue being annoying/gross
>"Chibi" *muffled laugh*
>Knightly Milk~
>Ah... Marine and Chloe like BL.
>Startled by Fubura/Fubuzilla
>Gets obvious base level EN references wrong
>"Will I by any chance be added to this game in the future?"
>Dakimakura? Oh but it's Yagoo... nobody needs that
>*happy squealing when they see anything related to Coco*
>*happy squealing when they see anything related to themselves*
>Eh? Isn't this strong? (about something that is not strong)
>run directly away from XP in a straight line
>die sub 5 minutes
>die sub 8 minutes
>die sub 5 minutes again
>Started by Smol Ame
>More excited to pull Gacha than play the game

[Anonymous No.]

>Ina (the rape character) has more healing and sustainability than the healing character (Fauna)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27261869
That's due largely to some clearly unintended item interactions. As soon as they fix the Takodachi's proccing enemy contact effects and counting as deaths for sluthorns Fauna will have way more sustain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27261979
that willl ruin the character

[Anonymous No.]

>>27261979
Fauna's sustain will still be garbage because tying a healing and shielding mechanic together is dumb, and having no way to grab saplings from the slightest distance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262016
No it won't, it will make her no longer viable for the Yagoo phase that's going to get removed as soon as they finish what endless mode. You idiots are acting like the Yagoo rush is the real game when the intended design is clearly for them to end endless mode so that it doesn't drag forever, which is why the only way to actually survive it are exploits and buggy interactions, and Gura because dodge chance is broken in any game where it can be stacked higher than like 20%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262104
I imagine the intent for making it so saplings don't get vacuumed is so that you can not pick them all up easier, to stop from losing the buff because you don't have any more around you.

They'll probably get vacuumed in a later build. Admittedly whisper is kind of weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262179
It will take her from S tier down to maybe a little above kiara tier.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

reroll should refresh once per 10 levels

[Anonymous No.]

>reroll should refresh once per 10 levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262597
>reroll should refresh once per 10 levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262511
Well, the only reason the tier list is remotely as divided as it is is because we're currently basing it on how well characters can survive Yagoo's which won't matter when endless mode gets like... the bosses from all the other stages and shit and is a real mode that's demonstrably different from stage mode.

If we were only measuring character strength by "can they live to 30 minutes" the tier list would only be divided by how difficult it is to do that.

Kiara isn't bottom tier because she's bad, she's bottom tier because she has a skill that doesn't do anything and another that makes her actively frustrating to play.

[Anonymous No.]

dancer is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262804
It's a fun concept. It needs to drop off incrementally and not all at once, and her shield needs to be reworked into something related to constantly moving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262765
>If we were only measuring character strength by "can they live to 30 minutes" the tier list would only be divided by how difficult it is to do that.
Getting to 30 minutes with Ina and Gura is very simple for the same reason they can survive past 30 minutes. Others have varying degrees of greater difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27263211
Next thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>27262975
It's way easier to get to 30 minutes with Sana than Gura or Ina. She just has literally no way to deal with Yagoos which makes her instantly meme tier. If you remove the literally game breaking defiance of the funny meme death the dev put in because it's a demo the discussion of character strength changes completely.