Holocure: Save the Fans!

[Anonymous No.]

A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

New patch up: https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1541975832238755840

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update. You can still play and brag about your score here though so we don't clutter up other threads

Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
https://rentry.org/vehan

Previous thread:
>>27039480

>Recent Streams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPcXlu-DYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61jYi1aCIh0
https://youtu.be/m0rpbbuFVUY
https://youtu.be/AvidiKGqU9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhCEubxY5sg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI2NzfPvwU4

[Anonymous No.]

Post-patch Mori is nasty

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>>27081371
Huh, you're right. The dev must have pushed another patch right after I downloaded the update and fixed the problem with pausing. It works fine for me now.

[Anonymous No.]

I like this update, Mori is really fun to play now.

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Botan's stream is in ~6hr 40min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wRHATqgME

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori goes from underpowered to really good in one patch
Her scythe still has a wonky deadzone close to her but man that was a nice buff.

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New Mori is pretty braindead. I went to 27 on my first try with a shit no crit build. I was literally just testing the changes and fucking around

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>>27083110
Yeah, it was broken for me too on that version. Wish dev had proper patch notes and versions, but except for one update they've all just been minor bugfixes. This one also changed the gacha page a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori and Kiara generally agreed upon as being the worst characters
>Mori gets gigabuffs and redone animations
>Kiara gets a slightly better Special :^)
how do cope Kiarabros

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>googling holocure no longer brings up the download as a first result but a bunch of games journo faggot shit
first itch.io link literally on page 3

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>>27083257
>a page telling you how to download the game instead of the itch page itself
lol

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Pretty dumb that the clear bonus just makes Stage Mode better than Endless for grinding gold.

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>>27083017
Did any holos make it the Yagoo swarm yet?

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>>27083257
Link is in OP's post.

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>>27083188
There's a changelog text file included with this update.

Gamer's sprites are now visible on the gacha page. I don't remember if they were here before.

HOLOCURE CHANGE LOG

Latest Build: 6/28/2022

Build 6/28/2022:

CHARACTERS

CALLI
-Reworked Calli's Scythe Swing's attack animation and damage values. Also added KO chance on level 7.
-Reworked Calli's Death skill.
-Reduced Calli's special attack cooldown.

KIARA
-Boosted damage of Kiara's Phoenix Fire special.

MUMEI
-Reduced the attack of feathers at level 7 slightly.
-History's defeat requirement has been lowered.

UI
-Added more input delay when leveling up to reduce the possibility to accidentally choosing an option too quickly.

More balance changes coming in future patches.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1541854016161755136
https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1541854016161755136
https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1541854016161755136

Next update will take some time but will "feel IMPACTFUL".

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>>27083372
They were here and the opacity of the black overlay has been lowered with every update

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>>27083242
Kiara was my first clear but new Mori is really nice, almost braindead

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kanata the only one who knew that the headphones were Aloe's without chat's help?

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>can no longer pause the game
how am I supposed to check my stats now

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>>27083460
Kanataso had been lurking in /vt/ and found Aloe's reference in yesterday's thread before she started streaming.

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>>27083372
>UI
She's in.

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>>27083513
Update again or try hitting "enter".

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>>27083513
>>27083110
Redownload.

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>>27083513
there should apparently be another update, check again
>>27083110

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>>27083372
Mumei nerf? I guess I'll update after I'm done farming coins for the upgrade shop.

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>>27083580
The nerf is unnoticeable due to the buff to History.

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>>27083242
what does kiara even need right now?

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>>27083580
Buffed, actually. The feather nerf isn't even noticeable and History is twice as effective with it gaining 1% every 50 kills now.

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>>27083372
>Added more input delay when leveling up to reduce the possibility to accidentally choosing an option too quickly.
nice one!! i often miss clicked upgrade kek
>Reduced the attack of feathers at level 7 slightly.
will it affected the farming efficiency?

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Huh, always felt like Kiara was one of the easier and more consistent characters due to her brain dead AOE from her autos

[Anonymous No.]

Holy ahit Moris so goddamn strong now. The deadzone is so much better, the insta kill is actually useful. Thank you Kay

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>>27083630
refer to>>27083628

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Calli is pretty damn fun now

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>>27083618
More DPS
or Tankiness
or Healing
or anything exceptional really
Kiara has to work twice as hard as other characters just for a boost that isn't even particularly impressive

[Anonymous No.]

How does the tier list look now

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>>27083730
Mori should be in the same tier if not better than ame/bae as crit abusers now.

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>>27083714
>Kiara has to work twice as hard as other characters just for a boost that isn't even particularly impressive
Just like in real life...

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>>27083618
Dancer rework is probably what most would like, but I think it's fun to use + strafe. I'd like her special to include a heal based on damage dealt so that it scaled easier. Her Shield skill should be on the level as Plushie too

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>>27083704
How do you get so many coins? I've had runs where I max out Super Chat early and I have the shop upgrade maxed, and my highest base number of coins was about 4500.

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>>27083821
Refer to this https://files.catbox.moe/4wlxio.mp4

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My best Sana run so far. I accidentally grabbed the axe instead of BL. The extra knock back would've been nice

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>>27083806
Dancer is a great idea and Kiara is fun as fuck in theory but it's hard to justify all the extra effort it takes to play her optimally when most of the other character can get better results simply by existing

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>>27083670
She's pretty balanced, good for beginners, and can beat stage mode just fine. It's only in endless where it becomes obvious how much of a 'jack of all trades, master of none' character she is. Her current kit just needs some buffs or some minor rework.

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>>27083821
Try to max skills quickly to get coins from level ups

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>>27083618
Her shield isn't very good defensively, dancer is a solid boost but it's far and away the most annoying thing to actually play in the game, and if you lose it it takes a very long time to build back up. Compare to work-a-holic where it'd be hard to ever lose it, or perfection which is easier to keep. Her weapon isn't great either, even fully upgraded. It used to be better than Calli's scythe, but not anymore.

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>Mori easily weeds out 19:00
Jesus christ

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how soft do u think botans feet are

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>>27083257
Google's algorithm for searches has been fucked for years now.

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>>27083912
What is the thinking behind not using the golden anvil

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>>27084038
Less level up options that are not coins.

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>>27083545
kek

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>>27083912
nta, but from watching that earlier I understand the idea of staying in a dedicated area so your pickups aren't spread across the map, and not picking stuff up immediately to wait until you have better upgrades. What I don't understand is how are the boxes giving so much gold? Feel like I'm never getting that much.

>>27084038
BL loses its knockback when it's collabed with axes, and they likely didn't care about DPS increase until the final horde.

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>>27083545
R

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I got to 30 mins first try after the patch. Mumei 's history buff definitely helped here as I could only get to 27 before the patch with the best of luck.

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Jesus, I'm pretty sure you can make it to 20:00 with just the scythe and maybe 1 other weapon. That shit is ridiculous.

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>>27083618
Revives with her special trigerring even if bar is not full for the full phoenix experience

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>>27083989
I agree with you on the shield being a bit underpowered but I don't get why you would ever want to stop moving in this game, so I don't see how dancer ever goes inactive.

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>>27083912
best thing about mumei is standing in the middle of the shieldbeat circle and not giving a fuck

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>>27084206
>If Kiara dies with full bar she revives and gains a permanent 10% increase to all stats
KAY YU HIRE THIS MAN

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>>27083545
TL note "-Added more input delay" means "no"

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Was the vacuum logo drop rate stealthily increased or am I just getting lucky this run? I've gotten like five or six of them.

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>>27084357
Luck.

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>>27084336
does the 10% include crit?

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>Give mumei a bunch of unconditional damage buffs whereas others have to go through some hoops to get them
>Scales well into late game
>Autoaim weapon
For what purpose?

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>>27084428
Dev is a Hooman. source my ass

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>>27084428
Moom

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>>27084425
Sure why not, it's not like she can multi-crit like Hakos or anything

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>>27084428
I love her so much...

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>>27084428
>unconditional
But you have to have enemies on screen AND kill stuff!

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>>27083545
>use special
>get raped
>game over

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>>27084428
You can't stop the march of civilization. Unless you nuke it.

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>>27084493
that would be really great, one more character that abuses injection type asacoco+face mask is always a welcome addition.

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>>27083821
Money farming guide
Prioritize the shop upgrades at the top. Everything else will aid you.
>Max Money Gain
>Max EXP Gain
>Max Rerolls
>Max Pickup
>Max Attack
>Max Crits
>Max Haste

Play on Stage Mode
[Any Class] Get any weapon to level 7. Collab that.
>Ideal collab Flattening Board (Cutting board + Holobombs)
No other weapons or skills are necessary if you get Flattening Board.
[Mumei] Max Primary. Use Ult to clear waves of enemies.

Prioritize these items and level them up so you can trigger the appearance of +100 Holocoins when you level up.
Max Level 5 items (Get these)
>Supachat
>Otaku Glasses
Max Level 1 (this too)
>Full Meal
Max Level 3 items (Get any of these)
>Nurse Horn
>Sake
>Noel Milk
>Face Mask
>Plushie
>Gorilla's Paw
>Piki Piki Piman

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>>27084544
I can't tell if you're be sarcastic or not

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how do you unlock superchat time

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>>27084641
End a run with 5k total gold on hand. Just reset your shop, start/quit a run, and you should have it.

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>>27084243
Even a second of not moving drops it, and it's very slow to build back up. There's a big difference between "moving constantly" and literally never not moving even for a second. Every other conditional buff is automatic (Mumei, Ina) very hard to lose (Calli, IRyS once she gets going) or is instant to reapply (Fauna, Kronii)

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>Mori has a death skill
>Chance for instakill is not 4%
Ruined.

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>>27084655
>reset shop
whoops, I clearly have not grinded enough

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>download Mori buffs
>collab "Breathe-In Type Asacoco"
Doctor, turn off my Brap inhibitors

[Anonymous No.]

How to update the game bros?

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>>27084640
I was thinking that the gameplan for "getting buffs everytime you die with full special" is to die as fast as possible hence the face mask and injection type asacoco. I'm assuming the 10% increase to all stats includes special recharge speed so it would quickly reach a point where you're just getting her special up ridiculously fast.

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For anyone having difficulty with the game, just get any aoe weapon to max level then keep stacking more aoe and damage buffs.

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>>27083172
I've noticed Mumei has a tiny dead zone right next to her with her feathers, it missed a KFP once

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>>27084160
>BL loses its knockback when it's collabed with axes
so does Spider Cooking
playing Sana and accidentally collabing Elite Cooking or BL Fujoshi instead of MiComet is a fantastic way to ruin a run

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>>27084777
It's a deadzone plus the hitboxes are jank as fuck for all the sprites.

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>>27084761
I didn't consider Special Recharge being a stat that gets increased. That would probably be a bit too absurdly broken. I was more thinking that it would make the Idol Dress actually worth taking.

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>>27084835
Yeah for small weapons like Mumei I've noticed deadbeats need to get hit in their bottom half, their head doesn't count or something

[Anonymous No.]

Almost done with Myth, my gacha rolls were really nice for this gen unlike those of Council.

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A kill leaderboard for stage mode would be fun

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>>27085060
You can technically just delay killing Ame by running away from her for a higher kill count.

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>>27083339
You're supposed to min maxing and do 2hr run to farm massive amount of reward

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>>27084955
it took me 22 rolls to get my initial Mumei unlock
I found out she was strongest after the fact, I just wanted my Oshi

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>>27085106
That's only if your PC doesn't lag like crazy and take 5 seconds for 1 in game second. I rather just farm stage mode.

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>>27083017
Shishoro continues to not miss with her thumbnails. Some of the best in the game.

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>>27083459
Someone might find a way to survive yagoo wave with her soon. The buff is really big

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>>27085106
min max 2 hr runs dont earn more gold than 6 min max 20 minute runs in the same timeframe

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>be sure to take weapons that have multiple collab options
>20+ levels later haven't found any of their partner items
I get that RNG is the whole game, but holy fuck can it be irritating.

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>>27084609
maybe OP can add this to rentry for next thread

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>>27084609
>[Any Class] Get any weapon to level 7. Collab that.
You'll do better with no collabs. You'll probably be forced to level weapons, level them with a collab in mind, but when the golden anvil spawns don't pick it up. Only grab the collab if you're getting overwhelmed or after 20 minutes to kill Ame faster.

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>>27083410
hope this means more than one song, i'm sick of suspect after 6 hours

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>>27084955
Is there really that big of a difference? I don't seem much change in the stats for the dupes, except maybe for crit.

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ok but he still needs to rework astrology

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>>27085325
It's +20 HP, +20% ATK, and +20% SPD total. Might as well farm it since I have nothing better to do.

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>>27085307
It's still very catchy. A BGM that can last for hrs and still be a earworm is quite rare.

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>>27084756
Download game again and extract the new version, save file will be fine.

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>>27085146
>That's only if your PC doesn't lag like crazy and take 5 seconds for 1 in game second.
Turn off damage numbers when you start lagging.

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>>27085307
i mute the game audio and use this on shuffle https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1eGUAVxqSS7QLhQooVABRe

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does anyone get past the post ending every enemy is supersized part? i had like 3 collabs sometimes with lots of mv speed and i cant get past it.
and whats the highest holocoins you got in a single session?

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>>27085439
Yes people have survived 2h+ against the infinite Yagoos. Also pic related on this post >>27085146
for my 20m stage mode coin record.

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>>27085439
You need survival at that point since weapons becomes useless to the amount of enemy and how fast they are. Grab succ horn, plushie and maybe double heal and just keep getting hp boost upgrade. At that point its just tanking it and being able to heal the damage fast enough before dying. Even if you have 400% damage it won't matter cause you won't be be able to kill fast enough.

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>>27085432
I already have turned off damage numbers, my laptop is 6 years old.

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>>27083257
That's literally most "info" sites you find through searches in a nutshell now because all they do is manipulate Google's search engine optimization when they see something begin to trend so they can be first on the front page and get clicks/KPIs/ad money through convenience and easy exposure. Recipes, video games, car repair, etc. They target things people commonly search for, create shitty sites filled with ads/links that optimize the URL to have any and all key search terms in it, and then they quickly crap out bloated articles full of the most generic filler you can think of that may or may not actually have the thing you were searching for mentioned in the headline at the very bottom. Search for a common recipe to see how absurd it's gotten -- you will be scrolling through someone's boring life story or a generic history/description of a dish copied off wikipedia for pages until you reach the actual recipe, and it's probably not even a good recipe.

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>>27085439
Reaching yagoos has been done on every character. I'm not aware of anyone surviving yagoos for an extended period on any characters besides Ina and Gura.

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Ramy
Attack: ice spike, piercing but limited range, slow down enemies
Frozen breath: create ice trail on her path, slow down enemies who step on it
Ice shield: block up to 3 attack, but fully recharge in 60 sec
Ultimate: Blizzard, turn all enemies into ice cube, any enemy touch it will be slowed and damaged. Melt after 10 sec

[Anonymous No.]

So playing Calli a bit. She isn't quite as good as Bae once enemy health starts raising since Bae's got skills with better scaling - quad damage crits for every weapon all the time means every +attack upgrade counts for extra - but she's definitely much stronger and more fun to play than she was before. Can't afk as much with her like Mumei or Fauna though, so that hurts.

>>27085556
The recipe thing is because you can't copyright a recipe, but you can copyright an obnoxious, meandering story about how a recipe changed your life.

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>>27085642
>nothing related to daifuku
>nothing related to sake
it's eh

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>>27085642
I know shes a Snow Elf but shes more than just frost magic. Wheres the booze? Her shrieks of terror and hiding behind Boton? The booze?

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>>27085691
sake if already an item though

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>>27084609
Messing around with Cali's new weapon on a gold run. It's nice.

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>>27085642
Ramy awakened attack should have instantly kill frozen enemy or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

wtf I'm a Kawaiiopi Mori main now

[Anonymous No.]

can someone explain to me how to build chimken?
I can't seem to make dancer and trailblazer work, I end up just outrunning everything and my attack speed feels too low to use the sword well

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>>27085789
you can't deny that sake is a lamy thing, so it should still be a part of her kit.

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>>27085793
Her update and increasing the size of her swing is great. It seems she got some other buff too which is also good. She's much better now and I wasn't even complaining all that much about her before.
>>27083144
I wonder will any of the Holostars be playing. Oga loves VS. If Luna somehow gets added in the game he's going to cream his majin pants.

[Anonymous No.]

gamers doko...

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>>27085879
true but that would be like complaining when FBK comes out that her ult doesn't turn her into foobzilla

[Anonymous No.]

>your oshi
>who would you like to see play Holocure most besides your oshi

[Anonymous No.]

I glad I got my Ultimate Fire Kiwawa clear done before she got buffed, and sad I never farmed gold with Mumei before she got nerfed.

[Anonymous No.]

I ask if calli hit enemies at close range and the delevopers make the scyther hitbox bigger the same day

[Anonymous No.]

Controller or mouse aiming support fucking when? I'm tired of cramping my hand spinning around with dragon fire.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii needs a buff so bad. Perfection is fucking useless.

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>>27085879
The right way to do it is simply to give her some incentive to use the existing sake item. Best of all would be to give her her own collab that uses it, that the other girls can't combine. Or something like that. But at least she should have some strong, unique synergy with it.

[Anonymous No.]

first time I reached 30 minutes, thanks mori

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>>27085307

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>>27086142
Kiara's buff isn't really that big, just a flat damage increase to her special which is still nothing special compared to the others.

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>>27086142
>nerfed
For the purposes of 20m gold farming, Mumei actually got buffed since the History buff outweighs the Awakened level 7 weapon nerf.

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>>27086183
I think the Death rework is a bigger deal desu

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>>27084205
Fun challenge, used all rerolls by min 17 so had to take 1 weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you survive the Yagoos?
I had >750% dmg and 60% crit but I was killed immediately

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else getting weird ATK scaling with Mumei?

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>>27086283
You play a different character.

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>>27086283
Plushie + headphones + horns + milk.

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>>27086208
It works great in stage mode, but no amount of buff or rework will ever make her playable in Endless as long as "stand there and hope you can survive getting hammered by unavoidable Yagoos" is a thing. You simply can't have a workable "super agile mobility chick" and also have "mandatory unkiteables" in the same game.

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>>27086248
Why do people keep saying she got nerfed? I think it was pretty obviously a buff based on reading the patch notes.

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I'm thinking Mori is better than Moomay for Stage runs now

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>>27086113
IRyS
Probably Bae

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>>27086248
What did they change on that exactly, famalam?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it called HoloCure

[Anonymous No.]

Challenge run: Chose a random character, only pick the first option when leveling up (no rerolls either), don't drop anything.
See you in ~20 minutes

https://wheelofnames.com/74p-xwr

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>>27086227
He's a much more dedicated man than I'd ever be. Ambitious too. It really makes me grateful for those who have already succeeded and is just outright doing things for the fun of it.
Even if it won't happen I hope he's at least getting ad or click revenue of some kind if at least going to his website or whatever.

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>>27086305
>Different Character
>Gura
Everyone knows she's the only one who can really survive Yagoo hell right?

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>>27083372
>>27086381

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>>27086331
The fans are the cancer.

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>>27086432
And Ina.

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>>27086402
>Ina
okay I guess I'll try endless

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>>27086394
Your sickness has but one cure.

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>>27086318
Because they nerfed her, anon. A buff in one area doesn't cancel out a nerf in another area. Maybe she is better in some ways over all now, but she was still hit with the nerf bat.
I find it hard to believe they would look at her OP feathers and how people are using her AFK and say "you know, let's nerf her feathers specifically but then give her a buff in another area that leaves her even stronger than what made us react to begin with" but maybe they did.

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>>27086251
How it was earlier?

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>>27085691
Lamy can have another sake passive and stack it with the normal one, she has a lot of bottles anyway, might even be that special collab the other anon talked about.

As for Daifuku... how many holos should have their pets/summons/familiars running around? both Daifuku, Kintsuba and Aki's hair thingies may as well be new items/enemies. On the other hand, would be fucking amusing to see Daifuku Forma de Oso being Lamy's special and smashing everything on sight.

>>27086517
You didn't even notice it existed until you really needed that one enemy dead.

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>>27086512
>a minor damage nerf in one area
>and a major damage buff in all areas
Yes, I'm thinking it's a buff overall.

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>>27086444
Yes that doesn't answer me. I asked EXACTLY. The log doesn't say, it just generally says her feather attack was reduced "slightly" and her History thing's requirement was "lowered". 1%? 99%?

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>>27086593
Oh you were asking for numbers, no one knows.

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>>27086402
Oh and only use anvils to upgrade your character's weapon.

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>>27086616
I know, but I won't tell you.

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>>27086402
Endless or Stage Mode?

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>>27086657
Dev-san, post the numbers next time.

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>>27086559
Ok you content it's a minor nerf and a major buff. Let's see those numbers you're working with (none in the changelog).
One can rightly decide to hugely buff a character overall and reign in numbers in one area so it's a more even buff rather than just totally breaking an already OP singular area. Maybe they did that. Maybe her feathers actually perform as well as ever.
As far as I'm concerned, having her personal skills all be worthwhile to max out is a good thing so hopefully they achieved that.

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>>27086593
Feathers we don't know, but its not very noticeable. History requirement has been halved, so you only need 50 kills for +1% damage, stacking up to 200%

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>>27086402
So weird. I had the same thought and thought of posting here with "house rules" until we get more features cause I was bored of winning and wanted artificial difficulty. Hivemind bros we're connected.

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>>27084162
A

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>>27086657

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>>27083118
She’s hilariously overtuned I think. Basically her scythe has a 17% chance to instantkill now with a 10% of causing chain death explosions and covers basically the same amount of screen as the BLFujoshi collab.
Expect a slight nerf soon I think

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>>27086729
Can't do a full run right now but I'm pretty sure you can see the new numbers for History right now, IIRC the kill requirements were halved so it's feasible to get the full buff after the patch. No idea about the feathers, but if its damage was reduced "slightly", then I'd assume being able to get the full damage boost from her other skills more than compensates for it.

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>>27086447
>fans are cancer
It's the truth of this world

[Anonymous No.]

>Injection Asacoco as my very first item
well shit

>>27086666
It's probably better to go endless if by some miracle you end up with a build that can go past the 26 minutes mark

[Anonymous No.]

did nurse horns get nerfed
I swear they got nerfed

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086823
She's less good with fewer large enemies with lots of health, but she's currently the best at dealing with swarms of many smaller enemies even if they have lots of health. Not that that really exists in the game right now. If there's a curse powerup that gives 50% or 100% greater enemy numbers she'll be even better.

I think Bae is still the "strongest" at pure shitting out damage though, especially once you get a full stack of collabs and start stacking +crit and +damage. Mumei/Fauna are still likely more efficient for gold farming, though I'm not sure, and Ina/Gura still have their niche. Since it's a single player game the balance seems fine enough as is, but if anything were to happen I expect it'd be a rework of the dancer skill into something less un-fun to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori is now good
Nooo...I wanted to see her suffering trying to prove that her character is cool...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086217
Would mean giving her some sort of invlun shield that refreshes often. That or give her a skill that causes enemies to become “drunk” and wander away from you

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085224
Gacha pain

[Anonymous No.]

>>27083257
It's the first result on Brave, fyi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086823
Not to mention the scyther has a bigger hitbox now so you don't need to time them anymore

[Anonymous No.]

How do you do fellow anonymous Who Mans? I was just wondering which crowded events are the most effective to commit acts of terror upon. Which do you plan on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085060
How do you get 2k win bonus?
I tried to kill Smol Ame as fast as I can and only get 1.7k or 1.8k.
I killed her with Dragon Fire after her first jump, time is 20:15 or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086500
>get a bunch of pickup bonus
>get some max health but it's taken away by sports drink
t-thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085879
>>27086217
I think a neat idea for spicing things up with this in mind would be to have a character's signature item or weapon be used in a special collab with that character's starting weapon once both are leveled up. Maybe also make a special platinum anvil that can appear to collab these items that's rarer but also provides larger upgrades/better chances of successful late upgrades. It feels like a natural fit, and most of the starting weapons seem to quickly fade out in usefulness compared to most of the collabs anyway. This would be a natural way to power-up characters and incentivize players to take items or weapons that might not make sense utility-wise at first or require a short-term gamble to build a great run around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086729
History now needs only 50 kills for a 1% dmg bonus so that’s already hyuge

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087333
Someone said that the wave with the like 8 circles of Shieldbeats is the best place because the % of destroying the Exp doesn't affect enemies that spawn outside of the screen, and since the whole 8 waves spawn at the same time, you get tons of free xp without really doing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085548
mine is 6 years old too.
graphic card is not good for gaming.
used to lag as fuck in the 19th minutes but i turned of damage numbers and visual effect and it became much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085721
Lamy gets hidden bonus when she takes Sake item.
Just like Gura and Ina with Chopping Board item.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand why Mumei of everyone gets buffed but character like Kronii and Kiara gets left in the fucking dust? Calli was a nice call

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087633
Mumei's buff was an attempt to nerf that failed, that's why

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087633
IRyS...

[Anonymous No.]

>people say kiara is the worst character right now when ame exists
Maybe I'm retarded but Ame is the least braindead of the Myth characters. You actually have to aim shit and her spread shot is ass. Bubba sounds useful in theory, but really doesn't do jack shit >10 minutes into a run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27084206
There's code in the game for something like that but it seems to be scrapped
>"Rise of the Phoenix". The description states "When Kiara's HP is 0, she enters the "ember" state for 10 seconds. If she defeats a certain amount of targets during this time, Kiara will revive with full HP. Upon each death, the required amount of targets doubles."

[Anonymous No.]

It took me far too long to work out that Plug In Asacoco is a buttplug tail

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087720
Stop leveling your starting weapon retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087584
Yea, I don't lag much on the 19th minute with everything turned off, it's the Yagoos at 30m+ where I lag like crazy regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087720
ame was the first character i got to yagoos and it was on my first try, doesnt seem that bad to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087720
Mumei's first run ever she played Ame and went to 27m.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087729
>ember state
Probably saving it for Ollie, renaming it as Zombie state

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085691
Daifuku is new type of enemy

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087333
The 1:30 shieldbeat wave (hit it at 1:38 because it has a slow start). If you don't have enough power to kill them, the horizontal lines of helmet takodachi at 3:15. The two sets of running kronies if you run to the lower left corner and let them run off screen, potentially on the bubba lines that spawn after fubuki. It's not a night and day difference and you can easily cost yourself more time than it's worth running after experience, so it's best to just do it and then run back to where you were camping. Save a vacuum for after 20 minutes to get all the levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087755
Only level your starting weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>The roguelike Youtube I watch just put up a holocure video
He has no clue what any of the hololive shit is beyond that they are vtubers.
This shit is going places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088056
post link

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>>27086402
>Bae
No math can settle this rat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ZyRKNDMmw

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088056
Dex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088120
Oh, I watch this guy too, love his backpack hero/peglin series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086823
I just did my record time clear with nu-Mori and goddamn they overdid it with her buff. She went from probably the worst to definitely the best. Just maxed her scythe and got horns and that's that. Easier and safer than Mumei with 2 collabs and max feathers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088120
>>27088151
The one I usually watch for VS is Never Nathaniel.
It seems he hasn't played HoloCure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087720
Ame is actually the best character.
>>27087755
Especially when you level her starting weapon.
Just like learn how to fucking use it.

[Anonymous No.]

The correct stat ups for mori are hp and haste right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087165
She can pop her special and just delete bosses in less than 2 seconds, even early on. Faster than Ame can I think. So if she has her special up, even super tough enemies are just chaff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087333
I just killed several thousand unborn children in a piece of kleenex looking at Mumei x Fauna on Pixiv if that counts.

[Anonymous No.]

does Fubuki or Mio even has designs for their fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086208
It god tier already

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087584
I have twinlinked cards that are outdated but were the best commercially available cards about 2 years back. Certain collabs still lag out the game around 19 minutes. It's like Minecraft, another old ass jank game that can lag out the very best machines just because it's coded the way it is, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088432
anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhX9Q8BQWnQ

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure what got nerfed for Mumei, but she seems stronger to me. I can actually just stand fucking still with just +2 awoken feathers and the falling cutting boards and have no issue with the 19 minute horde. The history buff just makes her damage more insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088432
Corns for Fubuki, Mio is just straight up wolves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088432
fubuki has 2 fan designs, little fox and corn man, Don't know about Mio

[Anonymous No.]

What upgrade order should I shoot for after maxing gold and xp? I was thinking Pick Up>Crit/Haste>Attack>whatever else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088662
I like rerolls after pick up myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085397
thank you kind anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085814
Apologise to mori, everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088560
my graphic card is radeon r5 m330.
i usually only take 1 collab (dragon fire).
or 2 collabs if i take something else and doubt my survival in the 19th minute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088592
man the dev fucked up

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088730
I kneel, Mori-sama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088592
>I can actually just stand fucking still with just +2 awoken feathers and the falling cutting boards and have no issue with the 19 minute horde
You could do that without before the patch, without the +2. I do think Mumei got a net buff, but what you're describing was already possible and easier before than you think it is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087633
Usually this means one of three things. The devs are just grossly incompetent (demonstrably not the case here) or they are watching it closely and know something needs done but are keeping it in their pants until they have a solid plan, or else they know there's some grossly powerful build or playstyle they know about and have seen or intended, but that has not hit the general public's awareness yet. It's only been like 3 days. We've only seen the tip of the iceberg.
Having only played Kronii a little bit, I can say there is certainly game-breaking speed and hijinks to be had and the wrong buff could wreck everything. I was shocked at how leveling up just throws speed bonuses at her over and over. I got 5 or 6 in Stage mode just from levels. All of which combined with Perfection etc.. She can literally just ignore and never need to glance at a single enemy and can make it to the end with just her personal skills, a shield and literally any random secondary weapon that incidentally kills shit at the edge of the screen. I just ignored everything from 17 minutes up till Smol Ame by walking away at warp speed. She outruns mob rush mobs.

[Anonymous No.]

Is multiplayer possible for this kind of game? Kinda wanna the co-op and versus mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Got really lucky with horns dropping right as I thought I wouldn't get past Q. Took 4 minutes to kill smol Ame and got my first collab right after that. Lots of knockback but barely any damage. 4/10 build.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
results
Thought I got unlucky when I got Injection -5% HP /tic but it ended up being a boon with IRyS and Happy Meal.
I got Dragon Fire very late and Elite Bucket before the swarm.
Getting Stat Ups when I was one away from a collab was brutal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087720
You don't want to hear this yet again but Ame is the easiest character (until buffed Mori). Build for crits and just laugh at people whose oshi ever made an attack that wasn't a giant critical hit. She instakills bosses with her gun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088730
>level 69
nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Easy for the rat

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088264
Crit and haste. She doesn't need HP. You just need to crit things to death before they get anywhere near her, which you can do consistently almost out of the gate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089035
>stage complete
anon....

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089035
well yeah, RatNG bias

[Anonymous No.]

>>27087633
It's a single player game, not every character needs to be equally broken or breakable. Calli got a buff because she was really hard to play and very obviously worse than all of the others. I do think History getting a buff or change was appropriate, because as-is levels 2 and 3 were completely useless in stage mode. Also as strong as Mumei is, she's really only the best at consistency; Bae is "stronger" in the sense that she can put out far more damage and scales faster with additional stats and collabs, but it doesn't matter because Mumei is more economical for farming gold.

Kiara's dancer skill could use a rework to be less annoying to play, but Kiara is not nearly as bad as Calli was. Kronii doesn't really need a buff either, she's perfectly good for playing except going for long endless runs, and I don't think the dev should have the goal of making every single character viable for 3 hours of yagoo pounding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088789
god that's hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089074
>Calli got a buff because she was really hard to play and very obviously worse than all of the others.
I don't get why people think this. I killed Smol Ame in 5 seconds on my first playthrough with her. And this was pre buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089163
probably because killing smol ame is extremely trivial

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088836
No, it was not. Mumei got overran by the 19 minute horde if she did not move or did not have some kind of knockback (like BL).

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089214
If we're talking 30+ minutes runs then Mori is just as bad as almost every other character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089163
People think it because it's true. Her large deadzone and slow speed made her the hardest to play. Being able to pop her special and kill Ame fast isn't a good measure of a character's strength, otherwise Mumei, Ina, and Gura would all be bottom tier characters. She was still playable, and you could get to 30 minutes, but she was the weakest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089289
trying to reach 30 minutes on pre-buff mori is a huge fucking pain in the ass compared to half the roster

[Anonymous No.]

I wish they would stop buffing characters to the point where it makes Stage mode a joke with just their weapon and passives, namely Sana, Mumei and now Mori

MAKE STAGE MODE FUN AGAIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089379
Maybe if you're a retard who levels nothing but the starting weapon

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089263
You're just wrong. Here's exactly that run from earlier today, before the patch. You'll have to take my word for it that I didn't move, but I didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089074
If you let Kiwawa pause for literally one second before losing Dancer, that would be enough. Sometimes just changing direction loses it, or hitting some cuntrag fence post hidden by mobs. The other answer is to make it gradually fall off rather than instantly drop completely. Like if you stop, it drops by X% per .1 seconds. It being completely killed by a millisecond of stuttering is thematic and gives you a rush, but it's far too punishing. It also fights with her sword and shield. She is two characters in one so is she the tanky bigass weapon girl or the kiting, evasive girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089263
Not that anon but I've also done the 19 minute mark with the same weapons and not had to move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089163
Calli with everything rolling was perfectly fine by the end of the stage pre-buff. It's just that it sucked ass getting her there and now it's super easy and smooth. Maybe too easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>forget to use her ultimate
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089442
Yeah, dropping off as slowly as it builds up would be a nice change, probably enough for it to keep its uniqueness without being so annoying to play. Right now it's instant to lose but very slow to build back up, so if it does drop you lose a large amount of your damage and crit for a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089501
most of council are also too easy in the early game

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089415
I did this exact thing and enemies broke through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089501
No it didn't. Her damage boosting skill is insane for the early game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089557
Just get better RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27084024
soft but deadly

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089557
I was experimenting with the collabs as the only other weapon, seeing if the increase from friend only firing off "good" attacks was worth the greater pool making coins rarer. It wasn't, but testing with both micomet and flattening board, the board killed enemies a lot faster and didn't let them get as close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089576
I never had the least issue hitting with her scythe. That was always easy. It's just that her ramp-up was objectively shit, which is why literally everybody complained until she got buffed to the stratosphere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089163
the scythe buff was necessary
the rest of the rework was over the top

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089385
No. They should keep buffing characters and add more difficulty modifiers in the shop instead of nerfing.

[Anonymous No.]

>calli is now a braindead character
good

[Anonymous No.]

>>27083017
This game has done more to make me like Sana than anything she herself has done.
Also IRYS's kit seems to be very reliant on leveling crit and without it she seems very weak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089595
Guess so.

>>27089531
The thing is it's supposed to be dancing, not just running, so there needs to be a penalty for fucking up your steps. But just not so harsh that it makes sense to just ignore it.

[Anonymous No.]

So when is someone releasing the version with the girls' voices patched in? I need GWAK when I get hit (not that Kronii ever gets hit).

[Anonymous No.]

Sucks that the level up forced me to pick a weapon but hey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089858
Sana needs pick up range though. Since she kills everything at half screen distance away and the entire gameplay is running around chasing bosses that are being knocked back or chasing after the exp drops. Gravity should get a buff that pulls exp drops a bit closer with each pulse or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089923
>not that Kronii ever gets hit
GWAK when she levels up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27089858
>Also IRYS's kit seems to be very reliant on leveling crit and without it she seems very weak.
Yes, but you don't need to level crit much, since you can get the piman coffee. Gives her crit chance when she gets hit which she will be, a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27088432
Hatotaurus....
She hasn't brought her fan design on stream for a very long time

[Anonymous No.]

Calli is really strong right now

[Anonymous No.]

power level should be based on sub count

[Anonymous No.]

JWU, is Towa a playable character yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Only last 1 minute after I got Injection Type Asacoco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085642
Literally just give her the Pandaren Brewmaster kit from WC3. She can even split into different colored Lamy variants for her ult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Damnit

[Anonymous No.]

can't make it past the yagoo horde, they're too strong.

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck doing point to a specific direction without having to move?

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda fucked it up by picking Idol Song a little bit too quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27090896
The fact that you know it's possible to do that but haven't tried to figure out how is a very specific level of zoomer ignorance. My complaint with this game is it doesn't really let first time players even know that it's possible, so they never consider it as an option. But you know it's possible, and yet you haven't tried to figure it out yourself at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27083017
>A new update with some changes to Calli has been posted. Enjoy!
FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>27090896
anon there are literally 3 buttons

[Anonymous No.]

Literally how do any of you fuckers get to Yagoo?
I got fucking 4 collab weapons and I still just eat shit and die when they swarm me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
>>27088104
What did I tell you? Definitely was a pretty lucky run with glasses and plushy dropping for me at the beginning, but the true rrat luck came in clutch with ubersheep and horns dropping right as the last wave began. Thought I was dead for sure, but I got enough haste from level ups that allowed BL to consistently repel enemies as burger drops and horns kept me alive long enough to use my special and drop micomet hellfire down on Yagoo in a final blaze of glory. Also learned from my final stats that using Bae's special raises her haste by 1000%. It was a lot of fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086634
I blame you for this and all the HP/Attack boosts I've gotten instead of weapon upgrades, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091004
You mean other than the screen you have to click through to play which has the only controls the game uses right there with huge icons, which includes the strafe key and the direction keys? This game uses 5 buttons and zoomers can't figure them all out. Common core math?

[Anonymous No.]

Are study glasses worth it or nah?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
>died to a swarm of rats
Are you kidding me?

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best weapon I can get in the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091004
don't be a nigger and tell me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091194
They're the most important item

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091145
I forgot that even existed, and it obviously isn't working since every streamer and this retard manage to play for extended periods without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27083410
Gamers added or we riot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091194
you get them ASAP on endless, stage mode is piss easy so you don't really need them there but they're useful in stage mode too.

[Anonymous No.]

Is no other character able of going beyond 30 mins aside from gura? I saw someone went like 2 hours with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091145
To be fair, that screen barely describes anything.
>strafe!
>all you see is your character and an arrow
For the longest time, I thought it was supposed to be a dash or dodge roll.

[Anonymous No.]

In endless is it better to upgrade 1 collab weapons damage, or spread your upgrades throughout all your collab weapons?

... Or just never use anvils for upgrade damage and always use them to upgrade weapons/items so you can make collabs faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091125
Drop the milk in favor of the plushie to make Gura an evasion monster. Plushie unlocks via Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091278
Streamers, at least, have to play countless games and are wrangling software, a model, and their chat and Ma-chan while also trying to play the game.
Zoomers have no excuse. Also note that it's the same key as "yes" so they're already hitting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091407
>I thought it was supposed to be a dash or dodge roll.

>Strafing is the act of moving sideways in a video game relative to the player's forward direction. Strafing allows a player to keep the camera focused on a target such as an enemy, while moving in a different direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091407
You didn't notice that you fire in that direction? Like, immediately?

[Anonymous No.]

i can't get past 5 mins in stage mode, help me onegai

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091556
run away

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091613
that's exactly what I end up doing for the entirety of those 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091368
Ina and Irys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091656
how are you dying at 5 minutes then

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091214
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091676
don't get any xp because I spend the entire time running, fast targets show up and catch up to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091546
Nope because you need to hold Z for any effect and given how every attack is timed, the effects aren't immediate.
>>27091540
That's also why I thought calling it strafing was a weird decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
need to work on my kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091556
max your starting weapon asap,ignore deadbeats and kill all the shrimps first until they dont spawn anymore or your damage is enough to one shot deadbeats. don't waste points in passives early-game unless is the anvil/exp one

[Anonymous No.]

hi dev, if you read this, can you make 10x gacha in the next update? it takes time to open 50 gacha 1 by 1 and it hurts my finger a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091407
same, but i'm esl

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091556
Depends on who you're playing as, but the general strat is to kite the enemies in a circle and run in to grab the exp. You won't need to run if you get the right items/upgrades early.
Know which enemies you can one-shot and carve a path to escape through them.
Pre 10 minutes use your special to farm huge spawns, post 10 minutes save it for "oh shit" moments.

Aside from that, check the OP guide.
5 minutes should be manageable even for a noob.
I managed to get that far when I first started playing and I accidentally bought the 1HP challenge mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Honestly not the worst I've done, just things didn't die much near the end due to no real damage buffs.

[Anonymous No.]

What if I set `Usex64` to True?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091914
u get sex 64 times

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091716
circle around whatever it is you're running from so you can collect xp

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, didn't last more than 7s after taking this screenshot
tips on the build to survive yagoo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Lasted way longer than I'd expected for how terrible my items were. Cutting Board was easily the MVP, and those weapon upgrade success rates are just bullshit. Failed the 70% roll three times in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092011
Why do you hate collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091507
>Also note that it's the same key as "yes" so they're already hitting it.
Enter is an alternative yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092038
This was trying that 1st choice only challenge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092089
holo bomb + cutting board

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092133
I finally got tthe last level of Cutting Board about 20 seconds before dying. Didn't live long enough to see a gold anvil spawn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27086402
Barely killed anything since the 18 minutes, but I got 169% speed so I outrun them lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091556
get more weapons and stop upgrading your starter

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091556
do not run away from exp always collect the exp from the enemy you killed whenever possible

[Anonymous No.]

Hope the dev adds damage statistics to the game over screen soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091975
Calli doesn't have the survivability for it so you're reliant on high SPD and running through

[Anonymous No.]

+600% atk buff and no crit
I actually didn't notice the damage reduction in her main weapon because 1% every 50 kills is busted.

[Anonymous No.]

>Just played a ton, used all the characters, ready to tell the thread what I think about them.
>Game was updated 4 hours ago
FUCK
Any patch notes?

[Anonymous No.]

with the buffs can mumei survive to 30 min/past 30 min?
can mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092738
>patch notes
There is one since the latest patch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092748
Any character can survive to 30 even if you don't level character passives at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092738
mori was made op
mumei was made even more op

[Anonymous No.]

>>27083618
She completely lacks any sort of good cc or sustain (which is weird, you'd think someone who's gimmick is reincarnation would have at least one sustain ability).

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092738
see >>27083372

[Anonymous No.]

>>27091747
You use it to strafe, though. I guess I can give it to you that "direction lock" might have been an ok name as well.

>>27091716
You have to get some kills in early on proactively and get a secondary weapon with most characters. The game is about starting a steamroll and there is some RNG involved. I'm a boomer with crappy reflexes and can still make it to 25+ minutes. It just takes some practice. The two needed skills are dodging enemies/positioning with your keys, and knowing what upgrades to pick. And knowing what enemies are coming up next, I suppose.
All this talk about the strafe key and really it's not even that useful 90% of the time, honestly. The good starter weapons either auto-aim, or else are huge sweeps that you're whaling on things side to side while standing more or less still and mulching things. I don't spend too much time running around actually strafing and needing to aim my pissant weapon behind or anything. That mostly means things are already not working out for that run.
If you really can't get past 5 minutes, just use Calli and rush her scythe, personal skills, and crit and spider cooking if you can get it (her close range debuff goes real real well with its aura and makes her a bug zapper).

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092748
Yes, but you need at least 3-4 AOE collabs and healing/dodge passives

[Anonymous No.]

I totally forgot about all the fanart this game would spawn

[Anonymous No.]

>>27092293
real answer: stop getting side weapons and upgrade your starter

[Anonymous No.]

>>27085307
I like suspect still but it's starting to make me feel slightly insane ngl.

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>>27093006
yes to whom. mori or moom? or both?
how useful is the plushie i barely notice its invincibility frames unlike gura's short stature personal skill. is it truly that useful?

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>>27093078
All of them
yes, it gives you breathing room to heal the damage you get

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>>27093064
this would look better if you add her ulti at the background.

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>>27091613
>>27091822
>>27091872
>>27092293
>>27092341
i just can't do it

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>>27086512
It unironically does when the subsequent buff basically nullifies the nerf 5 minutes into a run than overall makes her overall damage better.

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>>27093172

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Shuba's stream was the most entertaining so far

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I don't like these banners in the new version, character sprites are too big and pixelated. They need to be more detailed there - maybe not as detailed as A-Chan, but more detailed than this.

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>>27093322
>banner

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>>27086402
LOL it is so much fun

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does the gorilla buff everything or only the normal weapon
yes i know it says normal weapon but the milk said it buffs area weapons but it buffs everything so im raising an eyebrow over these descriptions

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Didn't dl the most recent update but finally hit Yagoo phase.

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>>27083372

>kiara buffs

I was hoping for a change to phoenix shield but time will tell.

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Survived the Yags longer than I thought I would. Pretty much went all in on health after I maxed everything

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>>27091125
Plushy makes life a lot easier for that part, but the biggest mistake a lot of people seem to make is focusing only on having lots of collab weapons instead of saving one or two spots for defensive knockback weapons like BL, plug and spiders. Taking fujo and dragonfire together will remove your best knockback options, which can end up with you getting stuck in a swarm and dying quickly if you don't have enough HP for horns to heal through the damage. BL seems to be the best at knockback to push enemies out of the way when moving around, so I usually go with micomet instead in a survivability build so I can have BL and either plug or spiders as options for defense.

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>>27093573
milk doesn't buff everything, it's just that there's very few weapons that dont use area

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>>27093731
they don't make any difference

BL disappears instantly since there's a cap on the number of hits per book, asscoco is too slow and narrow to make any difference

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Opinions on all the characters from someone who just started:
>Ame
Passives give her insane damage potential, but her lack of good cc and no personal sustain abilities leaves her more reliant on good rng than most.
>Gura
Small stature is way stronger than it sounds, that plus doll gives her an amazing escape option, and has some of the best cc in the game. Absolutely bonkers.
>Ina
Great cc, great sustain, only issue is that her damage is a bit low but that's way easier to fix than having bad sustain or cc. Might be the best character despite nothing in her kit being all that broken.
>Mori
Haven't played buffed Mori, I thought she was underrated as fuck before so it's kind of sad that she's apparently mindless Mumei tier.
>Kiara
Probably the worst character in the game. Surprisingly bulky but with no inherent cc or sustain she gets worn down quickly. Dancer is the most obnoxious fucking skill and I hope it gets removed for something that gives her healing (why the fuck does the phoenix not having a healing passive?)
>IRyS
I have to play her more, she seems like she could be busted but she feels really weird to play.
>Baelz
Despite her heavy crit emphasis, the best thing about her is the Australia passive. It plus any weapon that ticks for constant damage makes her an absolutely amazing character at locking down mobs. Feels like a stronger Ame.
>Kronii
Seems really good, but I had a pretty bad run with her so I'll have to give her another shot.
>Sana
Saved by her non-astrology passives being really good. Astrology seems like it should be a sustain ability but it's way too inconsistent to be regarded as such. Isn't busted, but feels fine to play.
>Mumei
Braindead, her starter weapon is way too strong when maxed out, and friend is absurdly good. Also has the only bomb that will straight up delete everything on screen, not that you'll need it outside of endless mode.
>Fauna
Probably the biggest disappointment. Her starting weapon is really bad compared to the others, and her passives feel really weak once you start getting into midgame and realize that your damage isn't as good as the other characters.

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>>27093633
The game over screen takes a few seconds to kick in after health hits zero...

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>>27088607
I mean that's probably the most normal traditional enemy we'll have next to Deadbeats.

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>>27093322
i think they look fine, maybe would be better if they were a little smaller

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>>27089790
Difficulty modifiers would be based. Double amount of Elite Enemies, just double Enemies in general, more stage hazards, etc.

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buffed calli is seriously ridiculous at lvl 2. It's not just one explosion after getting hit by the scythe, the explosions does a chain explosion killing others then exploding them too.

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>>27093322
i think they look fine

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>>27092811
Dancer instantly dropping to 0 if you stop at all is fucking garbage too. A quick drain would be fine, but having to build it from scratch is awful

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>>27086402
Rolled Mumei, as handicap I opted not to use anvils at all. I still think I should have been able to do it but I had the bright idea of using my special on the last wave instead of making a break for it in some direction, when they all respawned together at full health it didn't leave any gaps in the direction I picked. Had enough anvils (4) that I could have gotten max feathers and won easily that way too.

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>>27094115
It's just really rough on the hands too. I'd say scrap it entirely and add a new rez ability. If not >>27087729 then something else that's similar.

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>>27093938
Gura's only downside is her default weapon being bad, but her passives are insanely good once you get a couple weapons going.

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>wake up
>select Mumei
>farm coins
>select Mumei
>farm coins
>select Mumei
>farm coins
>select Mumei
>farm coins
>select Mumei
>farm coins

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>tried mori
>you can clear easily clear stage with only scythe
Damn.

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>>27087720
Ame is a glass cannon. She's tough when you're starting a run (no sustain, bubba is bad cc, limited attack range, her bomb doesn't work as a "get off me" option like most bombs can) and you need to hope for some specific drops to supplement her kit, but when she gets going she can become a powerhouse.

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>>27094418
Yes, you need to farm so you will have enough to gacha the next gen.

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Why the fuck are strafe and confirm buttons the same keybind? How hard was it to make these two separate?

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>>27093322
make the sprites big
make the sprites bigger

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I don't quite understand why kay made it so that JP items comes first. If there were EN items, they could make a collab with the main weapon like
Gurame - Gura throws her trident, pierces and slows down enemies
Amegura - Ame shoots out blue balls that gives a chance of getting Gura's bitemark

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Which autos does Milk affect?

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>>27094705
Andoid port soon, pls undastandt

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>>27093938
>Mori
>I thought she was underrated as fuck before
Depends how you thought she was rated. She was the worst character before, this is pretty well established, but that doesn't mean she was unplayably bad or that you couldn't get to 30 minutes with her, or have fun. Kiara is the worst now but not by as big a margin as Calli was worse than Kiara before.

Worst does not mean bad.

>Mumei
>Also has the only bomb that will straight up delete everything on screen, not that you'll need it outside of endless mode.
Funny that you say this as if it were a good thing. Her special is the worst because it has a slow start so it's not useful as a panic button. It takes over a second from pushing the button to things being deleted.

It's only actually useful when optimizing gold farming runs since you can use it to kill off screen enemies during certain waves. It is somewhat useful as a panic button if you find yourself getting overwhelmed but unless the wave is about to end, it will cause the entire wave of enemies to respawn at once at full health, which is the worst case scenario for survival. So if you couldn't deal with them before when they spawned in piecemeal, you won't be able to deal with them when they're all fresh at once.

>Fauna
>Her starting weapon is really bad compared to the others
Her weapon was second only to Mumei's feathers, but now Calli's scythe is probably better too.

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>>27094251
Not using anvils, golden or otherwise, is barely a handicap considering rng can screw you into not getting them until 19 mins in

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>>27095024
It can be enough of a handicap when you roll Mumei and don't end up upgrading her weapon. I would have used golden anvils if I triggered one, but the only collab potential I had was idol concert which may or may not have made a difference.

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>>27093322
this. I prefer the old one but the border is nice looking

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>>27093322
I liked the older format but like the new colors and borders.

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>>27093893
They absolutely do, you just aren't giving your haste stat any attention. Depending on the character and how much you've leveled them in gacha, you may need to give them a little extra haste earlier on to ensure the books are respawning quickly enough to keep a constant barrier going. It really doesn't take that much, and by focusing on just 3 collabs instead of 4 you're effectively saving 7 levels you can instead use on upgrading your stats sooner, which is also important to try and stack some HP to survive those last three minutes (or longer if you are trying to survive Yagoo).

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>>27094989
The only way to make kiara work is to change her ult where she moves in a straight line instantly, burning everything in her path with a base dmg +dps while also boosting her move speed afterwards.

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is the dupe rankup capped?

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>>27094989
>She was the worst character before
Wrong. She had great sustain, you just had to be careful about how you built her. Pre-nerf she had a far more coherent kit than Kiara.

>Funny that you say this as if it were a good thing.
Obviously potentially eating resources is bad, but as far as emergency buttons it's hard to beat "kill everything". I didn't want to go into too much detail because I didn't want to type out an even more bloated post.

>Her weapon was second only to Mumei's feathers
Bullshit. It goes from bad to "ok", but I'd much rather have a starter weapon that can at least gain some decent utility via level up (like Ina's and Baelz getting pushback) or that has some sort of synergy with another tool the character has (Ame, Mori). From what I've seen Fauna's weapon is weak in all stages, and using it effectively at early game means getting dangerously close to enemies (something nobody else has to do).

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>>27093938
Ame gets crazy good crowd control with 1 level in her starting weapon, all you need from that point on is learning how to move well.

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>>27094989
The only way to save fauna is to change her weapon, because it's too similar to mumei and a bad version of it. Instead of shooting out the leaves, make the leaves circle around her indefinitely like BL, the awakened version would give another inner ring for her. On top of that, put in a bleed debuff, where if the enemies get hit by the leaves 5 times, it'll deal additional damage.

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>>27095673
Killing things isn't cc.

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>>27095699
>bleed
if only the game has physical, magical and pure damage. It'd be a challenge to fight certain monsters without the right weapon since you can't kill them instantly.

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>>27095699
That just makes her weapon a variation of Sana's plus it takes the same design space as BL

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>No Kiara reincarnation passive
>No yandere Fauna passive
>No horny IRyS passive
Shit game

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Koyori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQuLLfDdGTw

Botan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wRHATqgME

Suisei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4hAmjqLOI

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>>27095956
Tell that to everyone who's ever pvp'd in an MMO. Hard to have a longer duration lockdown than a respawn timer.

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>>27095956
Three rapid-fire shorts that pierce through enemies, which only get stronger with more bullets and piercing as you level the weapon, sure is cc. And then there's Bubba and all her extra damage passives.

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>>27096156
>suisei
Oh shit

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>>27095470
>She had great sustain, you just had to be careful about how you built her.
She had okay sustain, but it only applied with a relatively low percentage on her scythe, and her scythe got worse the more you upgraded it. By the time sustain matters you are facing relatively few, larger enemies, instead of the large amount of physically smaller enemies you need to reliably proc her skill. She probably was buffed more than strictly necessary but eh.

>Pre-nerf she had a far more coherent kit than Kiara.
Coherent, yes. Good? no.

>but as far as emergency buttons it's hard to beat "kill everything".
It is, however, very easy to beat "kill everything 2 seconds from now and respawn them all at full health" as a panic button, which is what Mumei has. Also blocks your vision.

>Bullshit. It goes from bad to "ok"
It hits in a large area around her then flies toward random targets with piercing. Actually think about the other weapons it's competing with. Ame's gun is decent (the special not counting as part of the "gun", since Ame "spends" her special on that), Gura's trident is nothing special, Ina's tentacles are good, Kiara has a mediocre sword, pre-buff Calli's scythe was pretty bad since it wasn't useful defensively at all, Bae's is good and high damage, Kronii's is only serviceable, Sana's is okay for knockback, and then IRyS's is only good for triggering crits with its many hits and low damage.

The only real competition for second place is Bae or Ina, with Bae probably taking the lead of those two. Compared, Bae's dice are higher damage but directional and limits, Fauna's have a large ring of damage followed by homing. I'd give the edge to Fauna for killing normal enemies, and though Bae's dice will absolutely win in single target DPS, that currently doesn't matter as much since you can also just walk away from anything big.

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Doing yagoos now. How long until you can body them without moving?

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>>27096156
You are now reminded that Mumei's nightmare face was originally a Suisei drawing gone wrong.

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>>27096278
And if your shots don't kill then your fucked. If her shots had knockback then it would be cc because then its a reliable effect that can keep the mobs away from you even if you don't kill.

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>>27096762
I feel like you've literally never played a video game before if "shoot it until it dies" constitutes an "unreliable" effect in your mind.

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>>27096762
That's why you level the gun up, so you fire 7 shots which kill everything they hit 7 times. From then on you only need to learn how to hit.

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>>27096156
>suisei
OH yes, one of the hololive tryhard member

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So who's the best character out of Myth, Council and overall?

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Build 6/28/2022:

-Bringing Calli back down just a little.
-Fixed strafing locked after leveling or menus
-Other bug fixes
-Trying not to spam so many builds but there were some really important fixes. Sorry! Hopefully this is the last one for a while.

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>>27097362
Depends on what you want. Gura for endless, Mumei for Stage.

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>>27097362
>Myth
Ina or Gura
>Council
Mumei

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>>27097472
>>27097497
Why Gura and Mumei?

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>>27097383
nyooo...

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>>27097563
Mumei is the most powerful character for stage play and the best for gold farming due to her ludicrous damage. Gura and Ina are the only two characters that can survive beyond 30 minutes, in both cases related to their outrageous sustain.

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>>27097383
??? where was this posted

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>>27097563
>Gura
Whirlpools and Short Stature
>Mumei
Max rank starter weapon is retarded, friend is retarded

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>>27097383
>isreal
devs if u are here please add an updater...

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>>27097383
Checking, I am not sure about numeric changes, don't seem to be any in the skill descriptions, but the range of Calli's scythe has been slightly reduced. Here's the before.

>>27097718
itch.io

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>>27097563
Gura can't be killed, while Mumei's kills everything fast while you stand in the middle doing nothing. Yes, if you use Gura or Mumei, you didn't beat the game.

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>>27097383
>>27097993
And here's the after. I wouldn't be surprised if Death explosions are also smaller but I can't be assed to check.

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>>27097383
is this new? I updated like an hour ago

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Didn't Mumei just get nerfed?

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protip: if you can make it to 30:20 you basically beat the game.
mobility is only useful up to 25-ish after that theres too many enemies on screen to dodge effectively so dont bother with speed buffs. you will get hit no matter what.

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>>27098421
It doesn't matter since history got super buffed

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Best collab?

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>>27097993
I must be retarded Im on the website but theres no patch notes

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>>27098421
No. they lowered the base damage on her max level weapon but then literally doubled the damage boost of her personal skill. It was a net buff.

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>>27097955
kys auto update freak

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>>27098537
Depends on the character. As it should.

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Woke up today, updated the game and chose Calli
>lovetap a KFP swarm and it instantly explodes
>swing at the edge of a brat ring and it chain reacts beautifully with a ring of pops
>activate special against fubuzilla and take it down in 3 scythe swings
Feels powerful

Also the run I had was super strange. Pic related is my level and my items, and those items were pretty majorly supported by deliveries. I just got so many stat buffs and had to see how far I could go with those instead of taking weapons and items. All in all, more than 20 stat ups.
Then I just didn't get succubus horns no matter how hard I looked, so the run ended before its time. Before that I was just able to kill everything before it got to me.

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>>27097383
kek, I can understand why. Just did a reclear of stage with calli, ran only scythe until like 14-15 min mark. And I'm conviced you can clear stage with only scythe as a weapon.
It was the correct idea that she needed a tweak, but they did a bit to much.

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>>27097383
3 updates in a day?

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>>27097383
all these updates and still no skip intro

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>>27097383
Wtf, this update has a buggy save migration.

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>>27098791
press enter

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>>27098848
uh-oh, time for another update.
hopefully it's the last for a while roru

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>>27098863
really? shit thanks

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>>27098718
>And I'm conviced you can clear stage with only scythe as a weapon.
You totally could, I did it with just spider cooking at level 2 which was completely insignificant in terms of damage.

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>>27090514
Nope, Gamers are set to be the first gen added into the game

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>>27098926
but uh
what to do with the save
i didn't buy anything or roll so i personally don't care desu