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Holocure is going places

>> No.27079418

>>27079312
....So, any chance that the original developers get salty and whine about it?

>> No.27079439

>>27079312
>Vampire Survivors ripoff
Can holobronies create anything original?

>> No.27079509

>>27079418
they ripped off another game anyway

>> No.27079524

>>27079418
Maybe, but you can't copyright a genre. Since Holocure was built from the ground up and isn't say, a mod, it's probably clear legally. Also it's free.

>> No.27079568

>>27079418
VS is already a ripoff

>> No.27079600

>>27079418
Vampire survivor DEV?
Like that Oga’s case?

>> No.27079697

>>27079418
I mean since is marketed as a VS fan game that's is going to attract some people to VS.

>> No.27079741

>>27079418
Very minimal, they're very nice people.

>> No.27079858

>>27079312
When are they going to add a male voice item?

https://litter.catbox.moe/wsefq4.mp3

>> No.27079871

>>27079439
Jealousy is an ugly color on you, nijisis

>> No.27079878

>>27079312
If anything I hope they take some ideas from holocure.
I like VS but there's still a lot of room to improve, and holocure did some things better imo

>> No.27079993

Such an improvement from Vampire Survivors. EN fan since it's only HoloEN at start and the rest of JP and ID getting in later. Probably wouldn't have been created if HoloEN wasn't as popular upon debut and made Hololive popular internationally which A-chan has mentioned before.

>>27079418
But Vampire Survivors is already a ripoff.

>>27079439
Niji nigger seething that Selen only got a megaman/ Jump King ripoff instead.

>> No.27080016

>>27079312
>S Tier
>Mumei
>while everyone generally accepts that Gura and Ina are the only ones that can realistically go beyond 30 minutes in Endless mode
????

>> No.27080102

>>27079993
Calli got a Jump King rip-off
Selen is more like Airman stage ripoff

>> No.27080112

>>27079418
Cover should just hire both Kayu and VS developers and make VS:2 hololive edition

>> No.27080388

>>27079418
Why are dramafags like this? Not everything is an insult or a slight that’ll get people mad.

>> No.27080656

>>27079312
>SEA and Zhang news outlets
Wtf, i thought vtuber fans are mostly mutts

>> No.27080760

>>27079312
Honestly, would anyone even have heard about VS if hololive members hadn't stream the shit out of that game?

The smartest thing VS devs did was grant cover game permissions on launch.

>> No.27080790

>>27080388
not an unreasonable question, they could claim losses in profit, would be a dumb claim since Holo made it popular in the first place and they are also copying from another game, people sue on dumber arguments all the time.

>> No.27080897

>>27080016
S Tier only for retarded greedy fucks like me who builds with no regen, only life steal then pure damage.

I got to 52 mins because of her scaling damage

>> No.27081022

>>27080388
To be fair, something like that actually happened when one of Holostars made a game. And it was not a mod too, a new game with different assets. But this is not made by one of talents, so it should be safe.

>> No.27081402

>>27080790
Nah. If anything it will boost sales.
Holocure is fun but eventually you will unlock everything and it will get boring.
Updates will probably take long since it is a fan proj (though I hope that due to its success the community decides to help out, with money, assets, songs, etc)
People will look for something similar while they wait.

>> No.27081618

>>27080016
Retard
>>27080897
This. All you need for her is Choco horns, and maybe shield if you're bad. The rest is just offensive buffs.

>> No.27081734 [DELETED] 

>>27079312
Neck yourself niggerfaggot trannykike holotrannie holobronie

>> No.27082141

>>27079312
Make the game free was a wise choice. Can use tons of free assets which is pretty big atm.

>> No.27082144

>Calli actually feels satisfying to use now
neat

>> No.27082258

>>27079312
If I'm the Magic Survival/Vampire Survivor dev right now I'd be fucking livid.

>> No.27082352

>>27082141
They don't have a lot of songs atm. I'm sure the community would gladly compose some tunes for the game.

>> No.27082510

>>27079418
>>27082258
You guys act like it's a straight reskin. It borrows a lot of ideas from VS but it's very much it's own game. You can't copyright a gameplay style.

>> No.27082739

>>27079439
>Vampire survivors ripoff

Kek Vampire survivors is a ripoff of Magic survival though. At least do your research nijinig

>> No.27082803

>>27082352
The playlist is up on youtube and the music composer/producer has said that more of it will be released with updates. They either have it already or have it planned out.

>> No.27082825

>Mori got buffed
nyoooo

>> No.27082836

VS looks way too much like a bootleg game for the devs to possibly give a fuck about this

>> No.27082869

>>27082510
Honestly I was expecting a pretty straight reskin, maybe with each character getting a single personal weapon (I wasn't actively following the dev, just checking every couple of months), it's far more different than I expected.

>> No.27082950

Is this the new holocure general? Cause you retards didn't make the actual thread and I want to talk about how dumb Mori is now

>> No.27083049

>>27082739
I think Crimsonland from way back then started the genre though.

>> No.27083059

>>27080760
VS was already pretty popular before hololive
I think hololive just helped popularize it in Japan

>> No.27083068

>>27082510
It's fundamentally identical to VS besides expanding on the upgrade system and adding strafe.

>> No.27083081

>>27082825
She actually feels like one of the best characters now at least in the early game.

>> No.27083097

>>27082950
>>27083017
>>27083017
>>27083017

>> No.27083104

>>27079439
why don't you have the nijis play their fan game then? oh wait... :)

>> No.27083323

>>27083068
the characters are actual characters with unique weapons, skills, and specials

>> No.27083371

>>27082836
It's a one man dev team and he spent $1k on development.
The guy is a multi millionaire by now.

>> No.27083530

>>27083068
Duke 3D is just Doom with mouselook.

>> No.27083584

>>27083371
the indie dream
good for him

>> No.27086332

Not that the dev has done anythign wrong so far, but being a demo is going to hurt it in the short term. People are going to play it a bunch and get burnt out of it fast.

>> No.27086409

>>27079312
Hopefully to a garbage dump.

>> No.27086968

>>27082825
Lmao why? It was hilarious that when she was the worst character. Must be the cuckbeats malding about it that got kay yu to buff her.

>> No.27087081

>>27083068
Elden Ring is just Dark Souls 2 reskinned with more spells
Sekiro is just Tenchu with revives
CoD is just Counterstrike reskinned
MOBAs are just Diablo ripoffs

>> No.27087161

>>27079858
I haven't played the game yet. Is there any Homostars stuff in it?

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>>27086409
Nooooooooo how come only hololive gets to have good fangames?! Its not fair!!

>> No.27087661

>>27087161
No, but they're planned.

>> No.27088102

Dude is gonna make bank when the JPs are added. And you'll have to do gacha with real money.

>> No.27088213

>>27082510
>You guys act like it's a straight reskin
thats literally what 99% of the weapons are though

>> No.27088356

>>27083530
You are punching above your weight anon. Everybody on /vt/ is twelve years old.

>> No.27088553

>>27079697
that's not a legal defense

>> No.27088573

>>27079312
I don't want to ruin the party but the first article don't even have any comments.

>> No.27088651

>>27079312
How does Hololive management able to cultivate these talented fans and have them contribute to the brand?

>> No.27088759

>>27088102
i don't think Cover would allow the devs to do that, but can't they just buy the game / hire the dev to maintain it and give the "option" to use real money for gacha and skins?

>> No.27088850

>>27079509
Vampire Survivor ripped off mobile game Magic Survival. Eventually you come to realize all your favorite things were never original.

>> No.27088931

>>27079439
No fangame?

>> No.27089008

>>27082141
They had to make it free, if the dev took money for it the contracts to split the profit for IP rights it would've never been finished.

>> No.27089072

>>27083049
wtf I remember this game, you're right. I also remember the game lagging like shit towards late game

>> No.27089150

>>27083530
Diablo/dungeon crawlers are just DND with off screen dice rolls. All collectible card games are MTG derivatives.

>> No.27089258

>>27088759
Cover is too incompetent to do that so it’ll never happen

>> No.27089305

>>27079418
No, only nijizhangjis are salty

>> No.27089365
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Vampire Survivor Dev status? mogged

>> No.27090225

>>27082836
VS dev is pretty humble, says outright that his game just hit the lottery number to explode and that its a clone of Magic Survival. He's made min. $240,000 in half a year so he can pat any tears with his money (also the money from Gamepass deal, and every sale from a person who didn't leave a review, and all the ports there will likely be).
Also thanked / RT'd Holos directly on twitter every time they played his game earlier in the year.

>> No.27090351

>>27079418
Why would they? You apply for a job and on your resume you say you were part of the team responsible for this one project that was a huge success. Massive future earnings potential.

>> No.27090450

>>27079600
>implying any of these newfags know about the oga thing

>> No.27090534

>>27080656
No. Western fans don’t watch Hololive or Nijisanji.

>> No.27090538

>>27088553
I dont think theres anything illegal about making clone games. Its actually extremely common. Only millenial /v/tards who grew up with cod think that 'clone' is an insult or a bad thing.

>> No.27090690

>>27079418
>>27079439
>free game
>literally admits to being heavily inspired off vampire survivors
>vampire survivors isnt even original and is based off some mobile game
nijiseethe.

>> No.27090765

>>27090538
yeah, HoloCure is legally clear with VS.
I really just wanted to say that "it gives exposure to the original" is not a legal defense.

>> No.27091291

Where's my NijiCure, bros?

>> No.27091662

>>27091291
>there are 160 nijis currently, with a bunch more popping up every other month, and that's not counting the chink branch
>meanwhile there's 68 holos, and they're slow to add more
Sounds literally impossible.

>> No.27091902

good, a lot of effort was put into this, happy for devs.

>> No.27091949

>>27080102
>Selen is more like Airman stage ripoff
Heat Man, you uncultured pig.
Air Man's stage didn't have disappearing blocks.

>> No.27093584

>>27081402
ETA for next big content drop of HoloCure is about a month from now actually. Kay already has the assets made it's mostly just designing how the characters play that takes the most time.

>> No.27093840

>>27079418
lol no
>VS is already a ripoff
>already made the dev a fuckton of cash
>Holocure has a lot of original content
It's like devs of Doom seething at Quake or something.

>> No.27093965

>>27082352
Remixing available holo original song isn't too hard comparing to making a new one

>> No.27094020

>>27093840
But both was made by John Romero

>> No.27095001

>>27088213
Aren't a lot of the weapons and sprites from VS just straight up rips from Castlevania though? I'm fine with items having similar effects so long as they at least look relatively different.

>> No.27095005

hurry up with gamers, i can only barely tolerate kiwawa let alone EN

>> No.27095055

>>27087081
>Elden Ring is just Dark Souls 2 reskinned with more spells
this but unironically

>> No.27095898

>>27095055
>>27087081
Wait, is it really? I would want to have an open world dark souls 2 since the scenery there is beautiful.

>> No.27096184

>>27088850
the OG is crimson land. you zoomzooms need to learn

>> No.27096239

>>27095898
No.
Elden Ring is open world Dark Souls 3, 2 was different. The whole magic system in 2 was an improved version of 1 and heaps better than this FP shite they invented in DS3.

>> No.27097052

>>27094020
Right.
But you still get the point.

>> No.27097849

>>27095001
>Im fine with things being functionally identical as long as its disguised as my oshi
Weird but you do you

>> No.27099916

>>27095898
No, and dark souls 2 was garbage mechanically. Never listen to PVP fags, theyre the scourge of the series.

>> No.27100512

After the nerf, Calli is still good but definitely toned down a notch. Dev might have nerfed her damage a bit, not just her area, but I don't have enough data to make a real conclusion.

>> No.27102893

>>27079418
Of a free game? No. They'd be more likely to get pissed at the clone that is actually being sold on Steam.

>> No.27103328

>dev doesn't want to cash out on this
Why? Sure, one can call it a hobby, but no sane man wouldn't take this opportunity.

>> No.27103931

>>27103328
ask the guy who made Flappy Bird

>> No.27104088

>>27103931
Is that the one the vietnamese dev pulled from the store after it made like 6M USD?

>> No.27104165

>>27104088
yeah he could've made ten, even a hundred times that amount if he went the Angry Birds route but the guy didn't want to be famous or something I don't know

>> No.27104252

>>27103328
he probably would get cease and desist'd as soon as he tried to cash out, and by cover themselves. the guy is getting a fuckton of attention, so if he just delivers a quality game once he finishes updating it he would cultivate a fanbase from hololive audience. and then have some eyes on him when he releases literally anything else. most indie devs would kill for such a chance

>> No.27104381

>>27103328
He wants to add Rushia without needing Cover's permission.

>> No.27104552

>>27079418
I mean the VS dev already got a lot of exposure from when several Holos played it and got high numbers.

>> No.27104729

>>27104381
It would be based, if cover refuses they are massive faggots

>> No.27105005

>>27079993
>Such an improvement from Vampire Survivors
It's literally worse in every way in its current state anon, what the fuck are you smoking. Which is completely as it should be, considering its miles behind in actual dev times and lacks anywhere near the content, it needs 5x the items and stages and enemy types. But even beyond that, gacha with 20x dupes is retarded, coins are much harder to earn despite having similarly high costs for upgrades, coins have to actually be spent on upgrading your items every level, upgrading is a retard chance system on top of that, the pickup radius is too small and some things - faunas for example - literally don't get affected by it. The primary and only real way to get coins is by picking them up individually but there's no vacuum for them or even indicator for where they might be so you will miss like 1/4 of them every single level. Anvil rng is stupid and if your gold one doesn't drop you just lose, boxes giving you items you don't already have frequently is stupid. The controls suck dick, strafe should be a lock: hit it once to lock to that position hit it a second time to unlock

>> No.27105038

>>27080760
Streamers already popularized vampire survivors long before any vtuber played it anon

>> No.27105098

>>27079312
any chance COVER offers him some money?

>> No.27105110

>>27080112
Just kayu holocure is better than vs

>> No.27106765 [DELETED] 

Holy fucking SHIT Youtube keeps adding new dumb "features" no one asked for. Why do I need trailers for fucking streams?

>> No.27106981

>>27104252
I read somewhere that he'd refuse even if Cover offers shit. Not sure if legit or just rumor gone wild.

>> No.27107073

>>27105098
Nope, at best they will put him in their list if they somehow want him to make a game for them.

>> No.27108865

>>27079418
>poncle
>being mad
as if

>> No.27109058

>>27079312
>Make fangame
>Expect it to get some attention
>Whatever, can just make the game and be done with it
>Everybody and their grandpa playing it
>Demand you add 100 more items and every character in hololive
>Best of all

>He did it for free

>> No.27109474

>>27106981
He did say that he wants to keep this as a hobby and not turn this into a second job, yes

>> No.27109500

>>27104252
No actually, as long as he doesn't charge for it he'll be fine as far as cover's fanwork guidelines go

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>>27079439
>Can holobron-
die nijinigger

>> No.27109589

>>27104165
It's not that he didn't want to be famous, he knew the game was low-effort shit and found the attention embarrassing. Especially after mainstream publications started taking the incredibly low-hanging fruit of shitting on the game and painting him as some sort of grifter even though he never expected the game to succeed in the first place.

>> No.27109669

>>27104165
anon he's the key animator of SAO and made Pekora's outro, he's already famous

>> No.27109691

>>27109589
why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.27109863

>>27079312
pretty cool
might play it after they add coco

>> No.27110071

>>27090450
Migotis voice really don't fit as that serious character

>> No.27110182

>>27088850
>Eventually you come to realize all your favorite things were never original.
My favorite things:
>Ys
>Romancing Saga
>Zelda
>Butts
>Harvest Moon
>Game of Life
Now, I get what you're trying to say but..there's a blatant difference between "not being original" and "being a straight up copycat." By the by, anything released on mobile these days are a copycat of ancient mobile games from the Java days or early smartphone days you zoomers never heard of, 99.99% of the time.

>> No.27110572

finally the one of the suspect singer plays this game.
AKIIIIIIIIROOZEEE PLAYYY ITTTT ALLREAAADYYYY!!!!

>> No.27110803

NIJISISTERS WHERE ARE OUR NIJICURE????????????????????

>> No.27111210

>>27099916
Powerstancing was rad

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This dev wont ever involve money in it.

Not only because he cant or he'll get the CnD so fast by cover, but if by some weird reason they hire him, he'll have to follow their shitty rules.

This is the guy that did the gun kaichou gif a while back, and hes almost for sure going to put her into the game. If he were under covers thumb he'd have to care about the bugs shitting themselves at the dragon coming back. But as a free lance he can just laugh at them and buff her to be the strongest thing in the game.

>> No.27112206

>>27112144
>tatsunocuck cope
never gets old

>> No.27112252

>>27112206
>didnt play the game confirmed

Lol bug.

>> No.27112678

>>27109669
>key animator of SAO

trash

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>>27109589

>> No.27112879

>>27089365
Is it actually more popular than vampire survivors?

>> No.27112902

>>27088759
Cover derivative content guidelines actually allows that anon.
What they're not allowed to is mostly offensive/malicious content. In terms of monetization, as long as its not behind a paywall its generally ok.

>> No.27112940

>>27080388
Because this place is their life and they know nothing else

>> No.27112949

>>27112144
>hes almost for sure going to put her into the game
She has the most references of any non-playable idol. She's getting in.

>> No.27113018

>>27097849
That's how intellectual property works anon, no really.
Mechanics/Story/etc are free for all, but if they find sound bytes or pixels that are >70% similar to a IP protected assets, then you're open for trouble

>> No.27113030

>>27112949
Isn't it the other way around?
She has so many references that there is no point in having her there?

>> No.27115304

>>27079439
you forgot your purple dragon reaction image

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