I underestimated grooming

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I underestimated grooming Anonymous Tue Jun 21 23:54:49 2022 No.26597247 [Reply] [Original]

>bored of being part of a faceless mob
>hear about grooming 2views, sounds exciting
>never donated before, but hey
>pick a sub 100 view girl with a cute voice and model
>chill for about a month to see whos donating
>poorfag audience with zero oil barons
>an opening
>become her top donator, several times more than what she was getting
>starts talking about how happy she is and that she wants to try even harder
>responds to my chats more often
>starts taking things I've said as ideas for streams
>mentions past things ive said while telling personal stories
>says she reads comments to cheer herself up
>shes so cute I start getting emotional after streams end
>cant fall asleep properly thinking about her
>remember seeing anons abandoning the 2views they groomed after getting too close and panicking
>start feeling some pressure

Ive barely even started, mostly just got my foot in the door. But the further you go, the more the pressure seems to ramp up. Did I get too cocky? Is grooming solely the domain of a small elite?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 23:56:22 2022 No.26597344 >>26597247 why not keep going and fuck her eventually? It worked for that one here chuuba

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 23:57:08 2022 No.26597399 Seems like you're getting reverse groomed and you don't even realize it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 23:58:48 2022 No.26597513 File: 257 KB, 890x653, 1641130379636.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 Nigga you ain't grooming, you're the one getting groomed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 23:59:46 2022 No.26597565 >>26597399 >>26597513 This is what I fear, how the fuck to I keep hold of the reigns properly without falling for her. Are groomers just sociopaths? Im just a NEET virgin, if any girl gives me attention I turn to pudding for gods sake

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:00:07 2022 No.26597581 >>26597247 was hoping for at least some contact outside of streams, like DMs, or even sex. but this is just you wasting a bunch of money for no reason

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:00:23 2022 No.26597597 >>26597247 Overpowered by emotional attachment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:01:39 2022 No.26597688 >>26597247 Just jerk off to her and don't get too overtly romantic in chat. And accept jerking off is all you'll get from her, and maybe the satisfaction she MAY shlick to an idealized version of you in her mind. But there's no guarantee of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:01:44 2022 No.26597691 >>26597565 You already broke the golden rule by simping hard. You're not cut out for that life, just be a paypig simp and enjoy her content.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:04:25 2022 No.26597861 >>26597565 grooming absolutely requires a level of sociopathy, if you fall for the girl then you lose all ability to groom her because the fear of losing her will overpower your "leverage" of leaving her yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:06:27 2022 No.26597968 >>26597581 >>26597691 >>26597691 seriously? I thought the idea would be making her financially dependent on me. Is that wrong? Shes definitely giving me more attention.. Is the only real way to find some strategy to get in her DM's?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:07:13 2022 No.26598009
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>>26597565
>Are groomers just sociopaths?
Yes, they are and you already mostly failed your quest to groom a 2 view the obly way to salvage it is by getting into direct contact with her and then proceed with your grooming plan never expected to give grooming advices what the fuck happened to me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:09:34 2022 No.26598144 >>26597861 Basically I need to study some psychological manipulation techniques? She is really young and stupid so there's a chance

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:10:32 2022 No.26598202 >>26598144 How about you just simp and gachi her like a normal loser and drop that creeper shit mate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:13:29 2022 No.26598369 >>26597968 emotionally, not financially

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:14:50 2022 No.26598437
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>>26598144
> need to study some psychological manipulation techniques?
No, either you are born as manipulative person or not, just remain a paypig and enjoy some extra attention
>She is really young and stupid so there's a chance
Oh god anon kill yourself really

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:16:01 2022 No.26598519

>>26598202
The whole point is having some fun challenge to plan out and execute. I guess the difficulty is too high without any help.. What I really need is a fucking groomer support network, trying to pull this off with zero experience is hard.

>>26598369
Okay, but shes clearly more emotionally attached to me. She noticed some anonymous account of mine, but maybe she just has so few fans its obvious?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:16:59 2022 No.26598586

>>26597247
can relate, but for me, it's much worse. my oshi is a 4views and when i popped in her livechat, she almost always read my name. i'm not even a top donator, i just tweet about her, reply to her tweets and occasionally made crappy art/meme of her. i don't even want to groom her; i believe i'm the one being groomed. or maybe she just enjoys me being her fan, who knows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:18:36 2022 No.26598689 File: 30 KB, 463x453, 1649188892238.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:19:02 2022 No.26598718

>>26598437
When I say young and stupid I mean it as a compliment. I wouldnt even attempt to challenge some 120 iq hag master manipulator like Terumi. And yeah, I'm thinking that maybe you need a certain psych profile to do this. I wanna challenge myself though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:21:20 2022 No.26598865 >>26598689 Sussy comment indeed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:23:26 2022 No.26599002 >>26598519 I say we establish Parasocial Anonymous, a support group for VTuber fans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:23:34 2022 No.26599013 >>26598586 Im kinda considering jumping onto some literal 10 view to practice, wouldn't cost anything to get a large amount of attention like you said.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:24:34 2022 No.26599075
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>>26598718
oh you want to challenge yourself? how about you just go and get a fucking hobby nah hold on wait let's do this, make a throwaway discord post it here and let other anons test you, up for the challenge faggot?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:27:49 2022 No.26599324 >>26599013 when you said 10 views, do you mean literal 10 views or a billion views kek. my oshi has a consistent 900-1k CCV, in rare cases she can reach 2k or even 4k.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:28:31 2022 No.26599365

>>26599075
Actually my plan right now is to learn to draw as an angle to get in her dms, so thats my other hobby. But why the fuck would practicing on a group of retarded anti-social males be of any use. Im trying to groom some nerdy zoomer chick you retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:29:45 2022 No.26599439 >>26597565 Do this but with camwhores. You'll get more from your money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:30:37 2022 No.26599494 File: 84 KB, 536x359, 1532898916867.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm just glad none of you were around back long enough to have been Hebidads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:31:38 2022 No.26599544 >>26598689 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network >>>/vt/wvt

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:34:24 2022 No.26599713

>>26597247
>bored of being part of a faceless mob
What even is this type of logic? It's not about you. It's about the girl.
The only reason I watch as many of them as I do is because of the holobox, that I've been exposed to them repeteadly for years.
Why would I want to watch a literal stranger, regardless of how many views or who they work for?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:34:25 2022 No.26599714

>>26599324
Its nice shes paying you mind with that large of an audience, In my case she was kinda coasting and not really giving a shit ill I started dropping akas

>>26599439
Why the fuck do ppl like you think this is clever. The whole point is the idealism and fantasy. If I wanted I could just pay for a prostitute. Rather than meaningless 3d shit, Its much more interesting chasing someone with similar interests, and I love imagining what she really looks like under the avatar.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:34:34 2022 No.26599723

>>26597247
Been there done that. Sometimes you have to move on to another small indie to not get groomed yourself. Also be careful of even richer oil barons trying to steal your prize.
>Is grooming solely the domain of a small elite?
Its the domain of the schizo yes.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:36:02 2022 No.26599800
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>>26599365
>But why the fuck would practicing on a group of retarded anti-social males be of any use.
you're also stoopid whatever you aren't cut to groom people anon, hope you have past experiences drawing or you're gonna have to wait 3 to 5 years of hard work before you can put out anything good

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:37:50 2022 No.26599917 >>26599713 >talks about logic >can't watch a stranger unless vetted by strangers

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:38:53 2022 No.26599983 >>26599917 That's literally not what I said. I only watch the girls because I know them.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:39:11 2022 No.26599997

>>26599800
>you're gonna have to wait 3 to 5 years of hard work before you can put out anything good

I'm hoping that she'll realize its me and appreciate my hard work for her, I wont need to make some masterpiece. Ive noticed some mouthbreathers getting her attention with what looks to be ms paint scribbling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:40:04 2022 No.26600044 File: 266 KB, 372x576, 1625379748431.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 Retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:41:40 2022 No.26600121 >>26599997 >with what looks to be ms paint scribbling. but what about your ms paint scribblings anon? are they any better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:41:54 2022 No.26600139 >anon tries to groom an indie and gets groomed instead Every time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:42:34 2022 No.26600186 >>26599713 >>26600044 Getting pissy because I hit the nail on the head? Face it, you want them to pay attention to you and recognize you. Cope and seethe

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:43:22 2022 No.26600238

If you actually want to groom you need to stop thinking of her as a vtuber. Go directly for the roommate. You may have already fucked up, since just by donating a lot it makes most women immediately view you as a simp. Some are retarded and that's all you need though, so a good rule for these is that if you can't get into her inner circle after a few donations it's over she's not that gullible.

If you think you can still make it despite that, you must get more personal with her in your interactions. If she responds well you can keep going. If not, she sees through you and you move on to the next 2view.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:43:45 2022 No.26600264 >>26600186 I want the opposite of attention because I am a man. There was no hint of emotion in the post you responded to, so what emotion you perceive is from your own mind.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:45:02 2022 No.26600333

>>26600121
well no, I cant even draw a straight line right. Its gonna take a bit sure. Im kinda retarded honestly...
But theres no real other way. I literal sent a message saying "how to get into ur dms" and she responded deadpan, saying she dm's artists regularly. Shes clearly challenging me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:45:53 2022 No.26600382 File: 645 KB, 635x739, 1634221049862.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26600186 The only one getting pissy is you. Stop whining.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:46:31 2022 No.26600421

Treat her like a bitch and see how she responds. If she laughs it off you're in. If she gets offended then gtfo, she's already in control. Just be careful, bitches like this will start to claim trauma and abuse if you repeatedly do things they don't approve of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:48:24 2022 No.26600530 >>26600264 You said its about the girl, and the fact you believe you know her. So your fine if she doesnt see you as anything but incorporeal mist? Sorry, but if you could choose a world were she did know you, youd pick it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:50:04 2022 No.26600669 >>26600421 Thats an interesting idea. Im generally trying to mock and tease her, since the crowd is just giving vapid praise. I wonder how far to push it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:50:06 2022 No.26600675 >>26600333 anon you're getting groomed and you don't even know it fucking hell, what's next? she is gonna tell you she only dms people who wear women's clothing and you're gonna go start wearing women's clothing? lmao

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:53:13 2022 No.26600885

>>26599714
my oshi is very attentive to her fans and chat. there's several times when she retweeted/liked my tweets about her, even though i didn't mention her/use her hashtags. maybe it's because other fans liked my tweets, but it's just insane. i'm grateful for her attention to me, but sometimes i feel like i'm not worthy of such thing, especially when i'm a fairly new fan of her.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:55:10 2022 No.26601013

>>26600530
I don't think so.
If we're being serious I've had this thing since I was a kid, my parents would constantly talk shit about me to pretty much everyone when they thought I wasn't listening. Was part of a big family and they wouldn't talk about anyone else.
As a teen I tried to make myself seem as boring as I could and they talked about me even more, just more negatively.
There was a period where I was almost schizophrenic about it, I would hear them talking about me when they weren't there.
So no, I don't want my oshis attention, I want to be considered invisible.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:56:05 2022 No.26601066

>>26600675
Well, she has a fucking orbit of artists revolving around her, I assume because she gives them attention. I paid pretty close attention. Look, If my arts shit theres no way she'll strike up some heartfelt conversation, but just a quick thanks to get my foot in the door.

>>26600885
Honestly I'm quite jealous of stuff like that. Its really cute and shows a certain 'priority' that deepens the fan/streamer bond.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:59:07 2022 No.26601247 >>26601013 You initailly said its because >I am a man and now its because you were traumatized as a child. See the difference? Wanting to be invisible is just your pathology, you should embrace my path and heal In the glow of a cute girls attention.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:59:32 2022 No.26601271 >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network, trying to pull this off with zero experience is hard. Holy kek amazing post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:00:08 2022 No.26601310 >>26601247 I don't want attention because I am a man, I don't want my oshi to know who I am because of my 'trauma'

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:03:02 2022 No.26601497 >>26597247 The funniest thing is now at this point to just type in chat and say "This is boring. I am gonna go watch Gura/Vox/FOTM" then never chat again. The mental break from doing this is so worth a measly 100 bucks or even less sometimes.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:05:11 2022 No.26601630

>>26601271
Fucking grooming a girl from a foreign country is like planning a bank heist 5-10 years in advance with 20 different plans, backup plans and contingencies. Going in blind is fucking crazy, but I wanna take my shot while I have the chance. Losing your virginity or getting a job is piss easy in comparison.

>>26601310
Okay, I see. If thats you answer, so be it. My idea of a man is having consensual baby-making sex in missionary position with the woman I groom to love me. To each their own.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:07:20 2022 No.26601783 >>26601066 you should try making pixel art of her. i'm not saying that it's easier, but it's harder for people to realize if your pixel art is shit or not. easier to polish, too. or take a step further, create a Minecraft skin for her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:08:31 2022 No.26601847 >>26601630 If that's really your goal, then why a streamer?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:08:55 2022 No.26601865
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>>26597565
Just enjoy the pain and accept it as a part of yourself, it's they only way to keep your emotions under control, otherwise it will the the other way around

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:15:43 2022 No.26602297

>>26601847
Because its exciting? Plus, she actually is super cute. My number one criteria for women is voice, basically nothing else matters. She has the EXACT voice I've always wanted. Imagine how many hours of your life you'd have to spend listening to some vocal fried trash scratching at your sanity with some normal western girl.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:16:43 2022 No.26602351
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>>26597247
just be decent at illustration and draw decent art of them when no one does, I boosted my twatter that way from sub 1k follow now I have 6k and a bunch of indies actively commenting on my tweets

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:18:29 2022 No.26602431 >>26602297 What is exciting? The attention?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:20:46 2022 No.26602548 File: 36 KB, 554x810, 1655490934087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 welcome to the creepy fuck club , don't ever forget what you are

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:24:03 2022 No.26602708

>>26602431
I like chasing and courting, In Uni I was pursuing like 4 girls at once. Only got anywhere with one of them, and got bored instantly. I have a really strong desire to flirt and tease as much as possible. Like, visceral. Grooming is natural extension of this, since I need to be fairly subtle, clever, have a plan. Its most likely impossible, but it captures my imagination as strong as anything

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:24:44 2022 No.26602739

>>26602297
Anon you have way too high standards, which will only lead to deception and then suffering. Just have in the path and go for whatever it happens. I have been "grooming" a Japanese 1view just because that way I can do my English reps, if I fail my English reps will be there so I am not loosing anything. Do you see my point? I am focusing on what I will get in the short term instead of building castles on my delusions

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:25:11 2022 No.26602761 >>26602708 Doesn't explain why its a streamer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:25:34 2022 No.26602779 >>26598519 >but shes clearly more emotionally attached to me dyrbi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:27:15 2022 No.26602873 >>26601630 >Fucking grooming a girl from a foreign country is like planning a bank heist You're in over your head unless your timezone and financial situation works out. It's already hard enough to groom a girl states away, let alone hours by plane.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:27:42 2022 No.26602892 File: 135 KB, 892x666, 1588624123134.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597399 Reverse grooming isn't real, is it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:28:20 2022 No.26602918 Anon don't do this, you already know it's greasy. I'm all for getting close to a chuuba and it leading to something but idk man I don't think this is the way to go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:29:23 2022 No.26602967 >>26597399 Holy kek

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:30:33 2022 No.26603027

>>26601066
I think you're going about this the wrong way. You say she has a bunch of artist orbiters, but you want to become an artist despite not knowing what the fuck you're doing. What is going to set you apart from them? You're already entering contested waters against skilled opponents. Might as well do something different that makes you unique to her.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:31:06 2022 No.26603048

>>26602739
Whatever man, Ive been crushed by disappointment and failure my whole life. I'd rather follow my heart, and it tells me to hold this girl in my arms. I'm chasing that dream off a cliff if needed.

>>26602761
>Doesn't explain why its a streamer.
Try and find a girl with your type of voice online just by chance? That's never ever happening.

>>26602873
Its only a couple hours, its manageable.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:35:32 2022 No.26603277

>>26603027
Nope. She very clearly implicitly challenged me.
>You can enter my dms if you want, I dm artists all the time. just impress me

Backing down from that is complete cuckshit. I have an idea of a style Im gonna take from an artist I follow, I'm copying his shit 4hours a day. It'll be unique enough in style that I believe the quality will be less important.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:36:00 2022 No.26603307 File: 25 KB, 481x481, 1655404701354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26603048 Do you mind posting her channel? I can become your rival and then you will commit to your task more seriously. Sounds great doesn't it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:38:13 2022 No.26603410 >>26603277 Well, I wish you luck then. I wrote for my oshi, she even read one of my short stories on stream one night. It was what I could do well, so that's what I did.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:43:05 2022 No.26603616

>>26603307
That does sound fun. But I think it would get tiresome to have some pissing contest, distracting from her actual content.
I enjoy totally crushing all the fucking gnats anyway. I believe that's what makes me stand out extra.

>>26603410
Happy for you, thats brings me a smile. I can see it as clear as anything. My oshi seeing my art that I fucking coughed up blood grinding to make, and smiling to herself, knowing I'm totally dedicated to her.
Obviously signaling my worth as her monogamous life partner. My plan is fucking flawless

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:53:43 2022 No.26604070 >>26598519 Some time ago I tried to make a chuuba grooming general, it got nuked wwww The original intent was for anons to share their grooming experiences and maybe tips

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:55:39 2022 No.26604143 >>26603048 >Try and find a girl with your type of voice online just by chance? That's never ever happening. It would be through the same means as you would normally groom someone but without the audience

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:55:55 2022 No.26604151 Please just date her instead. That way, everyone is happy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 01:58:45 2022 No.26604249 >>26597247 it's hilarious to me that you think you are grooming anyone, she is playing you and you are falling for it like a complete retard. keep coping, paypig

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:03:14 2022 No.26604405 >>26604151 This anon. Last grooming thread someone shared a story of his friend that married a chuuba. He just gave her advise and supported her with tech issues didn't give her money eventually they fell in love and got married.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:05:53 2022 No.26604489

>>26604070
this site as the 'wild west' is totally dead. Its basically reddit at this point, you try and discuss an actual relevant topic like trying to fuck your oshi and the jannies have a mental episode.

>>26604151
Im gonna skip dating and go straight to marriage, I know a couple who met through grooming that married 6 months after their first message. Granted, both ppl involved were severly austistic, but so is my oshi. Theres something about online interaction that makes love more potent. Absence makes the heart grow fonder?

>>26604249
Yeah. I'll admit I fell for her a bit too hard, but my original plan is still holding. Im certainly on a better footing than 1 month ago. I just wanna give everything I have for at least 2 years and see what happens. Even if shes dragging me along like a manipulative bitch, thats hot as fuck anyway.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:07:39 2022 No.26604557
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>mfw my channel's subs is higher than the average 2view
>channel is also big enough to possibly instigate small raids in 2view streams if audience is willing to participate
Why groom D.O.A 2view channels when you almost have the power to literally ruin their chances and interest in vtubing and even live rent free in their heads?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:09:39 2022 No.26604637 >>26602892 Reverse grooming is more common than real grooming. You go in expecting to keep control of the vulnerable creature, and by the end it has all control over you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:10:07 2022 No.26604658 >>26597247 lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:10:16 2022 No.26604667 >>26604489 Anon no... Go back while you still can

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:10:38 2022 No.26604682 >>26597247 Where do you find 2views? Twitch?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:14:39 2022 No.26604852 File: 170 KB, 230x345, b130102-IZUR5uu2Kl1M.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26604489 You can be her dog anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:27:16 2022 No.26605351 >>26597247 I whish I had stayed being only YouTube and never got to know all the shit that happens behind the curtains...

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:28:01 2022 No.26605385

>>26602892
>>26604637
>>26604852

Its not a binary. I can be a loyal little cuck, wagging my tail, and also be harsh and forthright.

Thanks to the whole money thing, she'll start second guessing how to make me happy. Ive already noticed her do this in a very obvious way. It was cuter than anything.

Shes given me enough hints, she wants to play. Just, Im gonna take my turn with the leash. Uh, hopefully.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:28:55 2022 No.26605432 >>26597247 I've done all that without spending a single penny

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:31:06 2022 No.26605535 >>26597247 The point of grooming is to get nudes/sex from the vtuber you retard. You're the one getting groomed instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:31:53 2022 No.26605566 I have seen far too many people with this groomer / alpha mentality who end up breaking down into mentally insecure crying retards on discord by the end.

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Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:40:46 2022 No.26605962

>>26605432
Well, congrats. If shes an actual 2view with no oil balon she'll graduate, what then

>>26605535
Im not giving more than I can afford. Although I saw sam hyde talk about debt maxxing and that sounded appealing desu. I dont need nudes, thats a complete meme

>>26605611
What, I cant notice things? I made a random throwaway comment and she turned it into content. Kind of like when your parents buy you something for Christmas you didnt really want because you mentioned it in passing months ago.

Why would she do that otherwise? Its not psychopathy, SHES the one doing everything! Im just like fucking responding to her actions. She started it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:44:59 2022 No.26606146 File: 122 KB, 335x284, 1655810380762.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] DasaYuu broke me so I can't take the emotional damage of watching 2views. Lowest I go now has 5k subs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 02:47:49 2022 No.26606280 >>26606146 the pressure just gets more and more extreme the lower the viewer count. If you want some power trip fantasy its great, if you just wanna be comfy not so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:09:50 2022 No.26607383 >>26598718 >Terumi she's fucking retarded what are you on about

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:13:57 2022 No.26607580

>>26607383
I know what you mean, her thought process is a bit funky. But if you listen to her carefully, shes really calculating. Of course, thats compared to other vtubers, who are mostly mindlessly pandering or screaming. I doubt as a viewer you could slip much by her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:16:40 2022 No.26607709 >>26607580 in the "takes a liar to know a liar" sense you mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:17:04 2022 No.26607730 >>26597247 Just start PM’ing on discord, that’s basically how every egirl on the internet meets their internet bf. (and try to not be really autistic)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:18:39 2022 No.26607808 >>26607730 How not to get instantly blocked and banned from their server?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:18:52 2022 No.26607823 >>26597247 She is happy because she is having success and you are helping her. You are happy because you are helping someone who needs help. You can overanalyze it but money helps people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:20:20 2022 No.26607904 >>26607823 based wholesome motivation anon

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:24:05 2022 No.26608115

>>26597565
>Are groomers just sociopaths?
As a sociopath I take offense to this, anon. Any action should have a clear and decisive objective and you most certainly allow emotions to interfere with that. What could you possibly gain that's worth the money from grooming chuubas?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:27:41 2022 No.26608309 File: 45 KB, 720x480, 1632066115428.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 What are the odds of me successfully doing this and getting some nudes in the process? I'm not gonna groom for no real pussy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:32:36 2022 No.26608673 >>26607808 Keep donating and chatting I guess, fuck if I know dude I’ve never groomed a chuuba

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:33:46 2022 No.26608763 This has the energy of a guy falling for an escort

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:35:58 2022 No.26608885 >>26597247 Groomers aren't good people. The best thing you can do now is shill her for free, so you aren't alone in her chat any more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:36:22 2022 No.26608911 >>26607823 >You are happy because you are helping someone who needs help I really like this, it crystalized things nicely. Im gonna have fun trying to groom her, but ultimately your 100% right. I just wanna help her because she deserves it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:38:20 2022 No.26609034 >>26598519 The fuck! I mean I'm used to reading messed-up shit, but this is unreal

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:38:25 2022 No.26609037 i'm bingeing pekomoon clips right now despite "big" streams going on. why do i find that ship so much more compelling???

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:40:04 2022 No.26609152 >>26599002 Groomers aren't parasocial anon, they're predators.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:42:02 2022 No.26609297 >>26607823 >You are happy because you are helping someone who needs help. If I was helping somebody who didn't care about me and would willingly do something to hurt me I wouldn't be happy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:47:22 2022 No.26609731 >>26609034 don't worry this guy is too autistic to get anywhere with her

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:54:32 2022 No.26610468 >>26597247 Why does it have to be "grooming"? Why isn't it just "courting"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:57:57 2022 No.26610834 >>26610468 They mean the same thing. You've been programmed to react negatively when one is used and positively when the other is used.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 03:58:47 2022 No.26610931

>>26609034
>>26609731
If this actually disturbs you I dont know what to tell you. To you, Im literally just playing make believe in my own mind, the only outcome is that some chuuba gets a fatter wallet. Unless you think I can succeed? Then whats the issue. And by the way, I'll stop if she so much as hints at wanting me to stop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:00:20 2022 No.26611099 >>26610931 I don't think you can "groom" her because you don't seem like a sociopath. You still might be able to slide into those dm's tho, gl

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:01:36 2022 No.26611232 Thanks anons I've started my grooming sessions with 2 vtubers!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:05:02 2022 No.26611640 >>26611099 Thanks man. Im pretty sure I can clear the dm hurdle. Ive been doing too many drawing reps and my arm is borked, but I absolutely wanna be at a level make something for the 1 yr anniversary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:05:39 2022 No.26611739 >>26610834 Well yeah, that's called "connotation". Which is basically something every word has. But if they really mean the same thing, then why use the word with the negative connotation?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:44:02 2022 No.26615443 >>26597247 Just get fit, become a musician for vtubers, then use that clout to hookup with your favorite chuuba

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:49:19 2022 No.26616112 >>26608763 Kek. If you aren't moving in to a more closed circle like a discord or something similar and not trying to get one on one private messages then either you take way too long to make any moves or you've already been groomed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:50:58 2022 No.26616307 KIARA IS AN AME GOSLING

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:54:28 2022 No.26616685 >>26603616 Dude you are fucking insane.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:58:01 2022 No.26617114 >>26602892 It's called falling in love you stupid fuck.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:58:13 2022 No.26617134
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>>26605385
Bro
YOU ARE NOT FUCKING THE GIRL
YOU ARE LITERALLY GIVING HER MONEY WHILE SHE SITS ON HER ASS AND PLAYS VIDEO GAMES
Take an honest look at how pathetic your actions are, and ask who's the real one being exploited.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 04:58:23 2022 No.26617149 >>26597247 Are you actually a coward? If not why not go for it? Even if you are, there's a chance she likes the money enough to give you a shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:00:46 2022 No.26617341 >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network this is the funniest shit I've read all day

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:01:52 2022 No.26617425 >>26600186 Nigger I can hardly muster up the energy to type lol in the chat. Why the fuck would I want to participate in the entertainment I'm watching?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:03:20 2022 No.26617532 File: 11 KB, 227x224, 1345286849600.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26617114 >falling in love with a viewer

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:05:08 2022 No.26617657
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>>26617134
>goes on a competitive mongolian rat-fur basket weaving forum
>complains about people being pathetic
>is american, so starts repeating political talking points out of context with no meaning

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:08:51 2022 No.26617901 If you haven't tried getting experience on getting into DMs of nobody vtubers then you're too stupid and you'll never succeed at this. At best you'll get a sexless date because of superchats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:09:31 2022 No.26617940 >>26617532 I meant you. You didn't get "reverse groomed", you fell in love with the chuuba.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:14:59 2022 No.26618266 >>26617901 You gotta start somewhere, right? Maybe I should have practiced, but I'm pretty picky about who I watch. Actually, what kind of amount is the "going rate" for getting a date? Its gotta be like 10k plus right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:19:46 2022 No.26618560 This thread made me think of an idea: Can a talk to a 2view to practice talking with women?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:26:45 2022 No.26618984 >>26618266 You should try it with $0 retard. The money makes them hate you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:33:09 2022 No.26619378 File: 52 KB, 758x390, bay-park-grooming-image-1-a-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:43:13 2022 No.26620034 File: 204 KB, 432x410, 1629977966429.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26617657 >political talking points What in my post was a political talking point?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:47:32 2022 No.26620326

>>26618984
uh-huh. I dont know about your alpha male pheremones irl, but im not sure they work over denpa. Ask a gril from a foreign country out on a date anonymously
>for free
and see how that goes for you

>>26620034
You ever ask who's REALLY being exploited??! Up next on martshartTV, why (you) voluntarily giving money to cute girls is actually perpuating the very systems of oppression that caused 9/11, Jim jones, and Cocos graduation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:52:05 2022 No.26620605 Hi youtube

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 05:53:41 2022 No.26620706 >>26597247 Now imagine that this is how society functioned 50 years ago except she'd be your girlfriend and realize why everyone is so unhappy nowadays.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:00:20 2022 No.26621079

>>26620326
Honestly, I was expecting much more when I entered this thread, but you aren't even dming her? After a month of carefully studying this vtuber and I'd assume another couple of months of donating and commenting, you are still where you started.
And when you asked about dms, she told you she only talks to artists and you saw that as a challenge? Genuinely delusional. You didn't get a foot in the door, you rang the doorbell and when a voice responded with "Is this the delivery man?", you left and started looking for a job as a delivery man.
If you couldn't do something this basic by now, you aren't getting anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:00:22 2022 No.26621081 File: 28 KB, 213x289, 1632233005459.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 >anon tries grooming 2view >2view grooms anon instead Every fucking time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:01:42 2022 No.26621154 >>26621079 /thread

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:07:44 2022 No.26621435

>>26621079
I cant explain every time she interacted with me, your never gonna get the full context.

Im not still were I started, she started treating me differently. And no, I'm not going to dm her for no reason just to hit on her, thats fucking retarded. I'll prove I have an actual work ethic first.

Look, I know she OBVIOUSLY isn't literally saying, "oh anon-kun, we can only be together if you become a world famous artist!" I just think its cool if I go, hey, remember when you said this? I did it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:08:56 2022 No.26621494 >>26621435 >And no, I'm not going to dm her for no reason just to hit on her, thats fucking retarded. That means you're a coward.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:11:16 2022 No.26621608 >>26621435 i think you might have a money spending cuck fetish and there's nothing wrong with that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:14:48 2022 No.26621769 >>26621435 >The door opens. >"Hey remember when you said that you were expecting a delivery man? Well look at me now, I became a delivery man! Just for you! Oh btw, here is your package." >"Haha thanks!" >The door closes

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:17:56 2022 No.26621923

>>26621494
I want to build trust naturally be being honest, and making her happy however I can. if I ever hit on her, It'll be when I'm certain thats what she wants.

>>26621769
Yeah, and then I come back a few times a week. What, a better idea is to never show up at all if I'm not invited to dinner? I'm taking any small interaction I can

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:17:56 2022 No.26621920 >>26620326 >is american, so he thinks the term "exploiting" is purely political in meaning and asks people to stop talking about politics out of nowhere

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:24:24 2022 No.26622226

>>26621923
>I want to build trust naturally be being honest, and making her happy however I can
cuckoldry fetish confirmed
>if I ever hit on her, It'll be when I'm certain thats what she wants.
now we reached cuck levels previously unimaginable
>What, a better idea is to never show up at all if I'm not invited to dinner?
imagine you made breakfast and a homeless guy came and said the line you just wrote

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:25:05 2022 No.26622262 File: 257 KB, 850x1319, 37ED2BE7-036B-4CF0-B348-07AE4FA4728C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 OMG guys, I gave so much money to this stripper is STRIPPING MORE and is interested in everything I have to say! I groomed her!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:26:19 2022 No.26622318 >>26621923 You are spending this much effort solidifying the image of a simp-beta-cuck-paypig-orbiter so that, in some distant future, you will then convince her you are worthy of her respect and admiration? ?????

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:35:52 2022 No.26622708
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Don't we have a nijisister around to tell him how it is and save this poor bastard?
I know he wants to be a super villain and all but the dude is getting milked dry here and is deep in delusion. I think that's enough punishment.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:40:28 2022 No.26622894

>>26621923
You don't understand what I'm trying to say. The NATURE of your relationship hasn't improved. You currently have a viewer-streamer relationship with her. If you become an artist, you'll have an artist-streamer relationship. Do you understand how this does NOT help your ultimate goal of making her fall in love with you?
Neither of these are relationships that you want to be stuck in for too long, they are bouncing off points. As an artist, you do have more reasons to dm her, but that's a wrong way of looking at it. You shouldn't need a reason or a pretext in order to talk to her. That is to say, your mutual feelings towards one another are all the reasons you need, whether they be romantic or not.
Instead of waiting for her to show interest, you should expect that she is interested until proven otherwise. You will even have possible deniability by simply talking about your shared interests instead of about anything too personal.

tl:dr Initiative is important if you want to get anywhere and you blew your first chance.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:40:40 2022 No.26622904

>>26622226
>>26622318
Well, the idea is to get in her good graces enough to get on dm terms with her, start hitting it off, and go from there.

We shae some stuff in common and she gets my humor well enough. Im just taking it a step a time. Its gonna take years, obviously

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:43:57 2022 No.26623016 >tfw fucked up and ended up ghosted Still hurts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:48:55 2022 No.26623194 >>26622904 >It will take years Nigga she will graduate tomorrow lmao

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:49:35 2022 No.26623222

>>26622894
Okay, I see your point and its a good one. Normally, you'd get close to her circle of friends/acquaintances or something, then approach her from a neutral/positive starting position.

But I'm totally an outsider, most groomers are already part of the western vtuber scene 'community' or whatever, which I have zero experience in.

My only shot is to take my leap off a slightly higher starting platform. I dont have any time to become a discord moderator, or a clipper, or an asset designer ect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:49:51 2022 No.26623234 >>26621923 I just cringed so hard. Good luck bro lmao.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:53:53 2022 No.26623389 >>26622708 No, let him do as he wished.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:54:30 2022 No.26623415 >>26597247 If I did this to a Hooters waitress would it work?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:54:57 2022 No.26623441

>>26622904
ok thought experiment time!
reverse the roles!
you are a streamer and some guy in the chat comes in drops a fat load of cash and then asks (more like demands because retards are usually unaware how needy they sound) for DMs. what do you do? does he sound like a creep?
also the first thing you did was to drop some money in front of her making you look like
>hey here is cash when can we fuck?
and if you think that's unrealistic then you haven't interacted with a women in your life
>Its gonna take years, obviously
and then a chad walks in, isn't even subbed and cums all over and inside her body

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:57:16 2022 No.26623531 >>26622262 soft findom

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:59:19 2022 No.26623614

>>26622904
>Its gonna take years, obviously
Your spermatozoa took years? Didn't you know one of the fastest spermatozoa is the one that gets to inseminate the egg? Also does the spermatozoa bring cash and plead with her to respond or does it just shoot its shot?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 06:59:35 2022 No.26623626

>>26621923
>>26622708
>>26623389
>>26622262
Ok, I have enough self awareness to realize If an entire thread is piling on telling me im retarded, I'm probably retarded.
I'm just not exactly sure is wrong with me loving someone and wanting them to love me. Because its unrealistic?

Where the fuck are your dreams, bros.. I thought we were riding our gondola of delusion right through the river styx if need be. Was everyone but me just being ironic this whole time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:01:00 2022 No.26623679 >>26623626 Give up. It's not going to get better lmao.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:02:24 2022 No.26623737 now this is quality discussion

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:04:06 2022 No.26623807 File: 86 KB, 680x575, f6a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26623626 >I'm probably retarded no you're pic related >wanting them to love me you can force marriage but can't force love, definitely not with money and absolutely not by simping.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:12:35 2022 No.26624136

>>26623807
Okay. So basically theres a common knowledge that giving a girl money online makes them respect you less, unlike real life where if you treat a girl they'll just take it as a compliment or flattery.

But her income is mostly gained by people donating? So saying this is bad would be the death of the industry.. I guess the thinking that I believe giving her money will make her love me is bad?

I dont think that at all, I want to talk to her and get closer that way. I'm giving her money so she doesn't fucking graduate, secondly for the attention. Maybe this conversation is a meaningless circle, honestly.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:15:43 2022 No.26624270

>>26623626
Look anon try to look at it from her perspective. She's streaming as a hobby, maybe she had dreams of auditioning and joining cover but for now she's just happy to not be a 1view. Every day she considers quitting because it looks hopeless, but she wants to try at least 2 rounds of auditions before she gives up, or maybe if she's young she could keep going until 25 and see if she's big by then.

Now some rando joins the stream. Best case scenario: he's not retarded, he makes engaging comments, might make her laugh now and then, and is generally interesting. She thinks this guy is a true fan! Maybe it isn't hopeless. Now he starts to drop akasupas out of nowhere. An oil baron. Um, ok, nice. But why? What is he expecting from her? Sex? Then, how rich is he? How much can she milk while leading him on, before she has to decide whether to take it further? In the best case, he has millions or more and she can eventually feel like he's her last hope of making it rich so she decides to marry him, at least for a few years, to experience being rich, but if he's not hot then it's gonna be really hard to enjoy it.

Now what? Well, she might start hoping he's hot and rich. She probably assumes he's not either of those, well rich and dumb maybe but not hot. Then, if he isn't confident enough to push for more intimate contact, that means he's either not hot, a coward, or maybe he doesn't want to date her for some reason. Hot people generally get what they want, if they don't it's on to the next. Would you wait years if you were hot?

So she's timing you to see when you'll shoot your shot, and honestly you do need some luck so she's not bleeding that day but if you're good she might give you another shot if she was. If you're slow then she'll just assume the guy is a loser and when he takes the chance she will take off points.

If you're attracted to somebody you don't really care if they're giving you stacks of cash unless your already long term and they're supporting you like family. Otherwise it literally loses points for the guy. Also if you're attracted you'd probably wanna meet asap when comfortable enough not in a few years. I hope this is bait because you sound hopeless bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:22:40 2022 No.26624542 >>26623626 Love doesn’t exist anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:26:10 2022 No.26624678 >>26597247 >You're Retarded >You're a liar Kys

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:31:01 2022 No.26624840 >>26624270 this isnt bait. Its overblown maybe because I'm a a menhera, but Im being honest. >>26624678 While I'm retarded, I'm no liar

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:34:09 2022 No.26624923 File: 115 KB, 250x250, tower.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anon just gosling her until you're tired of it

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:37:18 2022 No.26625021

>>26624270
Not that anon, but you're looking at it as if the streamers are making very calculated decisions. A lot of it is spur of the moment based on vague aspirations. Sure some are cold and calculated but it should be obvious how dumb many that get groomed are.

On another note:
What if a streamer said they have good reason to avoid dating and are just in it to enjoy and explore hobbies. What would they gain by being upfront and rejecting would be suitors? Would it still be worth supporting such a person if you know it will never lead anywhere for anyone?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:38:13 2022 No.26625051 >>26624840 Let this be real. Please don't stop sending her money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:39:25 2022 No.26625092 >>26624840 I wish you came to my channel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:40:28 2022 No.26625121 >>26625092 NTA but send link. I can be your oil balon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:41:01 2022 No.26625140 >>26624923 Shes actually a gosling farmer. Its obviously a meme to her, but I'm kinda glad she has at least one

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:43:22 2022 No.26625228
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>>26597247
carry on anon, being a savior is not easy but it is the best feeling one can get in the world of vtubers
that connection with the 2views will carry on as you are recognized not just by her but also by the community

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:44:47 2022 No.26625274
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>>26625092
Gimme a link or a hint lol, I have space to follow someone else. Falling for my oshi gave me a better appreciation for other chuubas, I had kinda gotten bored of them previously

>>26625228
Finally... My brother in arms, You really get me!

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:47:28 2022 No.26625342

>>26623626
>Where the fuck are your dreams, bros
At some point, most people will stop having dreams and just focus on basic survival. I don't really enjoy my current job for example, but it pays the bills and that's enough for me.
But it's an age thing. If you're young it makes sense to still pursue your dreams.
(Though if you ask me, you have a better shot at love in real life than through some weird grooming scheme. Hell, you might not even like the chick if you actually manage to meet her in real life.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:51:04 2022 No.26625444 File: 210 KB, 667x900, 1641876962702.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26604682 > go youtube > search "vtuber" >filter by "live" or >go twitch >search vtuber >order by viewers low to high

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:53:55 2022 No.26625515

>>26625342
HA, It'd be pretty funny karma if I managed to meet her with my one in a million hairbrained nonsense "plan" and we didnt get along irl.

Regarding dreams, I'd given up totally. I was just gonna muck around quasi-seriously, quasi-larping being a groomer, but she ignited my spark again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:54:42 2022 No.26625540 Anons are too retarded to groom anynone, otherwise they would be in jail with all the succesful groomers. She's just manipulating you, you think she's being nice to you but she's like that with everyone, you aren't special.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:56:47 2022 No.26625604 >>26625540 Where do you think most of us professional groomers are typing fr

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 07:59:23 2022 No.26625679

>>26624136
>unlike real life
kek I haven't laughed so hard in oh so long.
you still think online women and real women are different? lol the absolute state of cucks.
no matter the situation, if you give woman money or pay for dinner or whatever, you'll be labeled a cuck in her eyes and with each cent your self worth (in her eyes) will plummet more and more.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 08:10:49 2022 No.26626002

>>26625515
For your own happiness since I've been far down this road let me just tell you don't expect anything. If circumstances suddenly change and you expect something else you will be hurt by it. Just cherish the good parts and expect them not to last forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 08:15:39 2022 No.26626142 File: 174 KB, 1618x1531, 1576475400167.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's funny to think the savior is the one who needs saving.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 08:16:47 2022 No.26626169 File: 2.17 MB, 923x1025, v.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the levels of basedtitude in this thread had me kneeling the second i opened it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 08:24:02 2022 No.26626392 >>26625540 >she's like that with everyone It's actually really obvious with 2views who gets special treatment and it's usually only a handful of regulars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 08:24:21 2022 No.26626404 >>26625121 shibani_envtuber on twitch, I'm streaming later today and Friday too. If you have a little time for me I'd be very grateful

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 08:51:14 2022 No.26627169 >>26597565 Congratulation, you played yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:07:19 2022 No.26627661 >>26597344 you mean pyon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:15:40 2022 No.26627911 >>26627661 NTA but probably Koopa.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:27:12 2022 No.26628281 >>26626404 NTA but I will check your vods later, but one thing, why your avatar looks so retarded, anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:35:17 2022 No.26628517 >>26626404 >LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ+ tag on channel Nevermind.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:38:00 2022 No.26628599

>>26620326
>You ever ask who's REALLY being exploited??! Up next on martshartTV, why (you) voluntarily giving money to cute girls is actually perpuating the very systems of oppression that caused 9/11, Jim jones, and Cocos graduation.
Holee fuck I'm talking to a real schizophrenic aren't I? Well, good luck with tilting at talking windmills. I'm out

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:40:55 2022 No.26628708 >>26628599 using a term like "exploitation" to refer to supas, clean the clown makeup off your face as you leave

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:42:03 2022 No.26628737 File: 36 KB, 539x468, 1655890877758.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26597247 Sounds like she groomed you instead

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:44:42 2022 No.26628818 Its threads like these that SHOULD be deleted

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:46:28 2022 No.26628869
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>>26620326
>Up next on martshartTV, why (you) voluntarily giving money to cute girls is actually perpuating the very systems of oppression that caused 9/11, Jim jones, and Cocos graduation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:48:19 2022 No.26628928 >>26628818 these are exactly the threads that shouldn't be deleted, this is great

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 09:52:51 2022 No.26629047
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>>26628708
Bro the only one in the room needing clown makeup is the one dropping akasupas
They aren't real.
They are a persona.
You are being exploited by a very real 3D whore who saw an opportunity to make easy money from simps like you.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:00:05 2022 No.26629271

>>26629047
Personally, I never fell for the nijinigger meme. Sorry for your bad experience.

But from the bottom of my heart I believe there are girls who deserve support, you just need to find them.
>they arent real
Neither are you, and neither am I. It fits, right?

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:07:42 2022 No.26629541

>>26629271
>But from the bottom of my heart I believe there are girls who deserve support, you just need to find them.
If they deserved support, I would know their names. I would be given a reason to support them. Their talent would be so outstanding that the nature of their business would compell people to buy their books, to see their broadway play, to purchase their songs. As of now, there is no talent in the world worth supporting like that. No content (other than obscure ps2 games) is worth the price.
>Neither are you, and neither am I. It fits, right?
Oh no, dear groomer. I am real. I think, therefore I am.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:08:43 2022 No.26629564 File: 158 KB, 666x666, 1622747534903.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26629541 Forgot my smug selen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:14:57 2022 No.26629734 >>26629541 >>26629564 lol, dumbass. Redpill me on these kino ps2 games your hiding under the bunkbed you share with your 4 other inbred siblings

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:16:02 2022 No.26629762 op is a fine candidate for weapons distribution from the feds. I look forward to the vtuber shooter story within the coming months. Hello to the glowie from the future reading my post.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:16:34 2022 No.26629786 >>26629541 based descartes enjoyer >>26629734 cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:25:34 2022 No.26630088 >>26629541 It's erroneous to call op the groomer. Let's check the score card. His oshi has hundreds of his dollars, his time spent stalking her, and his oneitis. In return, she's read his chats a few times.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:27:31 2022 No.26630146 File: 2.95 MB, 594x640, 1626137034808.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:44:59 2022 No.26630694 I'm rooting for you OP. You need to get into her dm's if you wanna move this forward. Otherwise you'll just stay as a viewer forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 10:58:53 2022 No.26631124 >>26597247 Lol at this point OP stop calling yourself a groomer. Call yourself a hopeless simpering worm because that's what you are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 11:22:32 2022 No.26631915 I don't know why you guys care about DMs so much. I don't DM anyone because I have nothing to tell them that needs to be told in private.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 11:43:59 2022 No.26632706 File: 1.10 MB, 1280x720, 1560741514236.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 12:11:08 2022 No.26633687 >>26623415 What's your budget?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 12:26:54 2022 No.26634306 >>26631915 Could some anons share their first DM experiences?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 12:42:32 2022 No.26634893 >>26597247 >he fell for the grooming meme

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 12:52:36 2022 No.26635248
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>>26631124
>>26634893
>It kinda looks like I cant become a groomer... but what am I?
Just another schizoid with delusions of grandeur? I dont wanna give up like this, not while her hymen is still intact! BULLSHIT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 12:56:43 2022 No.26635377 >>26635248 are you sure it's intact?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 13:14:05 2022 No.26636134 File: 28 KB, 680x165, 324142314.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26635377 Theres a chance. Its extra likely since she's a nerdy glasses girl somewhere between 18-23, In my estimation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 13:30:59 2022 No.26636945 >>26628517 fuck, I did not saw it, sorry>>26626404 but you are a faggot

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 14:06:33 2022 No.26638630

>>26597247
I have been feeling the same way for my 2views. Only difference is that I'm a poorfag so I can't send her big supas at all, I just had luck that she finds me funny.
I fall asleep thinking about her and wake up thinking about her. I'd give everything I have for a chance to get closer to her in a more personal or intimate way, but at the same time the idea scares me.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 14:22:56 2022 No.26639213

>>26638630
Im happy too hear that, although being a poorfag is rough. Making her laugh is the greatest time I have, and yes, I wake up and spend a good 10-20 mins thinking about her. We have a similar experience which makes me little chuffed.

I would say to try and get closer a little at a time. This thread, I've gotten nothing but pushback on this point, but I still think taking it slowly and respecting their boundaries is the best move, rather than being 'alpha' or whatever. Try and match the other person and respect how they feel.

Every situation is different, but my biggest advice is to participate as much as possible, In any way you can. I used to avoid 'community' related stuff like the plague, but since finding my oshi I've gotten a lot of happiness out of sending her dumb marshmallows, rig reviews and so on. Maybe this doesnt apply to you though.

Good luck getting closer, Its my feeling that if no barrier is put up, its an invitation. That invitation just needs to be opened by us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 14:59:02 2022 No.26640505 Why is grooming so rampant on Discord? Everytime grooming scandal I've seen, being a big or small chuuba has been related or done with Discord. And almost every 2 view who opens a server ends up being groomed sooner or later.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 15:17:29 2022 No.26641257
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>>26640505
Groom or be groomed, anon. My oshi taught me that.
Yes, you are not the only one to grow up on the gosling fields. Simping is a cruel parent, but an effective teacher. It's final lesson is carved deep in my psyche:
That this world, and all it's people, are diseased.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 15:22:39 2022 No.26641511 >>26640505 1. Discord is for zoomers 2. Everyone likes throwing the word grooming around these days 3. Fat ugly socially awkward otaku are horny for anime girls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 15:26:36 2022 No.26641704 This is why you don't watch 2viewers. You think you can make a difference by supporting them but in the end, all you are doing is becoming their slave. Support Corpos.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 15:35:50 2022 No.26642146 >>26629786 Descartes is idealist nonsense. My cock doesn't think but it's real and I can smash you over the head with it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 15:38:20 2022 No.26642268 >>26631915 Found one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:01:08 2022 No.26643330 >>26641257 Groom or be groomed. Cuck or get cucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:11:58 2022 No.26643823 >>26598586 >>26599013 what do 2/3/4/10 view even mean now? I always thought 2 view meant sub double digit or sub triple digit viewers. Is it the number of digits in their CCV?subs? Is a 10 view 100ccv? 1000? 10,000?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:17:30 2022 No.26644083 >>26643823 >I always thought 2 view meant sub double digit or sub triple digit viewers It is, just these anons took meaning literally as didn't their reps before posting

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:32:44 2022 No.26644841 >>26644083 Anon... He literally pointed out that it's LITERAL 10 view. He clearly know what's the meaning of #views

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:34:04 2022 No.26644902 >>26644841 Okay i spoke too soon. The one guy did but the other one didn't

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:37:23 2022 No.26645064 File: 92 KB, 897x663, 1653581116402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26630088 Stop being mean to OP, he doesn't want to admit that he has already been groomed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:42:26 2022 No.26645309 File: 8 KB, 299x168, pain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26625228 Saviorfagging was a mistake. It's broken me mentally, physically, and financially. You can never save people who don't want to help themselves.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:45:22 2022 No.26645431

>>26622894
Is it pure gambling then? Should I just dm my oshi and pray that she's doesn't block me as soon as she sees my message, and then keep dming her as long as she replies me?
It's scary because that makes me aware that the moment she stops replying it means she doesn't want me to write to her anymore.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 16:58:19 2022 No.26646002

>>26645431
In perfect world, oshi will DM you first
Then again
>the moment she stops replying it means she doesn't want me to write to her anymore.
This can happen any time. It did happened to me, and your post resonates with my old wounds. Everything was good, then i did let my menhera nature slip for a moment, and i never got replied in DMs again despite her interacting with me for months on streams.
It hurts twice as hard after that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:01:35 2022 No.26646141 >>26646002 Not same anon >oshi DMs you first I've seen this happen with other inner circle guys, and I can only hope I get closer to her until it eventually happens... I'm too much of a coward to do it myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:09:31 2022 No.26646526 >>26597247 she's grooming you, retard

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:17:25 2022 No.26646964
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>>26597247
Suggestions to consider:
-Suddenly becoming a drawfag and trying to compete with her other drawfag friends is a bad idea, like other anon said. You'll be already competing in an oversaturated niche. Not to mention you'll have to grind a very difficult skill from zero (it takes years and years to be able to be a competent drawfag). Instead, try to do other things that are useful for her, clips, timestamping her VODs for viewers, creating a meme account about her in twitter etc. You have expendable income apparently, so how about commissioning a high name artist to make art of her? Chuubas need art to make schedules and thumbnails. It's also a bit of free publicity for her specially if the artist publishes their commissions in a twitter account.
-Make sure to have a well recognizable name that is the same name in your youtube/twitch channel, the same name in your twitter, the same name as your discord and the same name you donate and send DMs. You'll be hammering THAT name in her mind and might be granted accessibility while being called as THAT name.
-Keep being her paypig, devoted clipper, commenter and chat person, but one day you suddenly drop from the face of earth. No more chat participation, no more clips, no more tweets. Preferably don't even watch her videos so you don't risk fucking up this part. This keeps going on for a month or two (in this time you find something else to do, maybe the parasocial grip on you will be lesser, which is also beneficial for your sanity). To all people's notices you either died suddenly or dropped her suddenly for unknown reasons. If she keeps a list, she'll sure be wondering and this might root in some insecurities and paranoia of "where did I fuck up? I lost my biggest gachi".
Then ONE day you come back and donation bomb her as usual. If she's the kind that keeps a list, she'll be relieved and might be more pre-disposed to DMs slipped her way.
experienced groomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:23:18 2022 No.26647211 File: 383 KB, 474x499, dissapointsei.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:26:54 2022 No.26647373
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>>26646964
>Then ONE day you come back and donation bomb her as usual. If she's the kind that keeps a list, she'll be relieved and might be more pre-disposed to DMs slipped her way.
Explain how this is actually helps to groom further anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:27:13 2022 No.26647391 >>26646964 I've been on the internet for almost 20 years now and still people giving advice on how to pick up chicks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:29:43 2022 No.26647496 File: 600 KB, 1920x1279, iu[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26647391

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:30:16 2022 No.26647517 File: 302 KB, 410x410, 1647479887696.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:32:07 2022 No.26647577 >>26597247 Do not take the 2view oil baron path anons, it only makes you a parasocialfag. Stay safe, stay sane

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:33:40 2022 No.26647653

>>26647373
Groomer OP is trying to slip into her DMs, he needs an opening. An opening is only given when there's a shift of upperhand (and by going AWOL you're trying to instigate that)
Being a paypig and direct DMs wouldn't be the attitudes I'd take, but he's already doing that so no comeback from it. Only maximizing around the choices that were already done

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:33:46 2022 No.26647659 >>26597247 >abandoning the 2views they groomed That's the payoff for the whole thing though. Disappearing on them out of nowhere then watching the inevitable emotional trainwreck and laughing/masturbating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:34:13 2022 No.26647679 >>26647577 t. Fandead

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:36:13 2022 No.26647764 Can any legitimate female vtubers here (please no larpers) tell us if they genuinely like the attention from they receive from being groomed by their viewers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:37:46 2022 No.26647840 File: 146 KB, 1600x1600, FUkOy7dakAAivq8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:37:53 2022 No.26647848 >>26647653 But will it actually help? Oshi might get past of fear of losing paypig and just don't get baited.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:38:14 2022 No.26647866 >>26647764 >do women like free money and attention for doing nothing? :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:39:54 2022 No.26647940 >>26597565 Anon, the point is to get yourself a cute wife Falling for her is a good thing

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:40:36 2022 No.26647970

reverse grooming is so much fun though. I've been paypigging a 2view single mother vtuber and it honestly motivated me to try and develop some art skills, and I even ended up making a fully rigged 3D model for her (it's crap but it was fun to learn). I'm at the point where she even made me a mod and occasionally flirts with me, my main insecurity is that she's trying to keep me on the hook with GFE rather than actually appreciating the time I spend on stuff for her but apart from that I've been enjoying slowly becoming gachikoi for someone who actually knows I exist

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:40:53 2022 No.26647981 >>26647848 He might also detach from the girl during the "hiatus", so win win?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:41:21 2022 No.26648000 >>26598519 That's /wvt/ on /trash/ It's more about grooming watchers but still

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:41:29 2022 No.26648009 File: 426 KB, 621x743, of2wrvwlm1k51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:42:32 2022 No.26648062 >>26647970 >my main insecurity is that she's trying to keep me on the hook with GFE No one fishes like single mothers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:43:31 2022 No.26648100 File: 94 KB, 800x688, 15e66d0d0896fec8a787133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Great thread OP, really capture the spirit of /vt/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:44:00 2022 No.26648123 File: 27 KB, 538x530, 1634073886975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >>What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:44:35 2022 No.26648152 File: 435 KB, 627x498, E9awAdjXEAIrBbo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:45:21 2022 No.26648183 >>26598519 There is a solution to your predicament, but you are not mentally strong enough to execute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:45:46 2022 No.26648205 >>26648062 This is true

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:48:05 2022 No.26648307 File: 137 KB, 1200x915, 757038aef223f4998008eb033ae45b2f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26647653

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:48:23 2022 No.26648319 >>26647764 I am male and yes some of them do genuinely love the attention. It's like sex for them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:49:14 2022 No.26648360 >>26621435 >And no, I'm not going to dm her for no reason just to hit on her DM her to ask about art commission you want to buy for her or some shitty memes lmao She probably has BF anyway since she's western chuuba

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:53:31 2022 No.26648546 >>26643823 2view = 2 digit ccv 10-99 3view = 3 digit ccv 100-999

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 17:56:29 2022 No.26648703 File: 150 KB, 1246x720, 1651052582021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:03:23 2022 No.26649044 >>26598519 Im tearing up from the laughter. Amazing post, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:11:33 2022 No.26649406 >>26648546 thank you anon

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:25:32 2022 No.26650072

How to groom:
>Be you
>Have a job (this part is necessary)
>Find girl 1view and start talking in chat
>You have to carefully look if there is people in the chat talking, if at least 1 guy is talking to her then your chances drop by 60%, better to find another one, If chat is empty then proceed.
>Get invited to her discord, since she is a 1 view then she will most likely talk with you only
>With time she'll ask you to be one of her mods, this is the part where you have to be a fucking MAN and use the old carrot in a rope, you give her attention and then pull that attention out, this is what having a job is all about, with it you'll have a likely excuse to not tend to her every necessities 24/7 eventually becoming one of her simps and not her pimp.
>She'll start thinking about (you), missing (you), NEEDING (YOU)
>Chances of this increase exponentially if you also are kind of /fit/ by an 80%
>She'll try to grab your attention, eventually giving you little ''peeks'' but nothing too risky
>You have to complement her even if she ain't that cute and you just want the satisfaction of fucking her
>Joke saying something like ''damn girl, you really wanna make me pop a boner or what? lol'', this will massively increase her confidence with you
>Eventually recieve some more risky stuff until you get nudes
>Send dick pic with ''you got me like this girl, what you gonna do about it?''
>Sexting enssues
>Now with your job you can actually fly there or make her fly to your home if she gets mildly successful
>Fuck her for the next few weeks
>You are now free to ignore her more or say ''this ain't working, sorry'' and move on

% board:
Fat: -30% chance
Jobless: -40% chance
Too emotionally invested: -200% chance (you become groomed like faggot OP)
/fit/: +80% chance
Job: +40% chance
Her having little to no male friends: +50% chance

Rule of thumb is: YOU ARE NOT TO FALL IN LOVE.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:26:54 2022 No.26650134 >>26597247 anon you have to keep going, don't give up, don't let these faggots convince you to stop, ever

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:32:38 2022 No.26650361 >>26602892 That’s right mister, now come on into my van, there’s free cold beer and the radio is playing classic rock.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:35:58 2022 No.26650499 >>26623626 >I'm retarded but self-aware haha I'm so quirky lol Unlike a regular tard this just makes you double retarded. I am not your bro. You repulse me and your chuuba probably feels the same way behind your back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:37:47 2022 No.26650570 >>26650072 Can we just start dating after, I desperately need a chuuba gf (Not OP btw)

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:38:23 2022 No.26650598

>>26605962
I already knew you were a retard, but seeing that you're listening to Sam Hyde's advice really cements that fact. Funny as he is, the man is a grifting, abusive, miserable homo.

If you're actually looking for love or marriage, stop already. It's clear from what you've said in this thread that the only role you have in anyone's life is to create a bed of misery. Your delusions will only cause you suffering when the game is over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:45:50 2022 No.26650891 >>26599714 >>26597565 You lack socialization with women, that's why you are falling so hard, that's why that anon suggested a cam whore, it will cause you grow up a bit so that you can effectively talk to awkward 2 view girls better

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:48:08 2022 No.26650976 >>26650891 How hard is it to pick up a cam whore? I know one girl that did it, she had an out of state boyfriend and blew my other friend. So a real whore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:53:28 2022 No.26651211 >>26624270 Now this is the dark triad shit I came to this thread for.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 18:56:52 2022 No.26651358

>>26623626
Anon, /vt/ are crabs in a bucket, they don't want you to succeed because it makes them feel lonelier

Now, generally speaking, I need to teach you something really important however.
Any girl that has a gaming PC has a boyfriend, it's either his computer she's using to stream, or he bought her all the parts for it.
This is why a lot of anons are warning you and telling you to just get practice girl experience with cam whores.

You need to change your mindset around these girls, understand that instead of being a boyfriend, you can be a sugar daddy.
Now, relationships can come from that, but this fantasy situation you've concocted where you are both single and she wants to have a relationship with you is unrealistic, she would rather have more anonymous men give her money because you've proven to her that she can do it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:00:28 2022 No.26651520 >>26647373 >>26647848 I agree with him, you have to change the power dynamic and the only way to do it is to get the 2 view personally invested in you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:00:52 2022 No.26651540 File: 534 KB, 2800x1835, 1652538984525.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26650072 I like how you deduced -60% if there is even 1 guy in chat. Implying that anon is slightly worse than random twitch watcher

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:00:59 2022 No.26651549 File: 35 KB, 680x384, 1572046257375.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26602892 That's what the Great Groomer did to Chumbuds. And I love it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:03:27 2022 No.26651658 File: 67 KB, 820x1024, 7493BCBA-A9B6-43E2-9F20-DD3E2A5879A0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26651540 >slightly

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:09:48 2022 No.26651962
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>>26650976
I'm not saying you should date a cam whore, it will just temper your emotions so you aren't falling head over heels for women that know they can finesse you out of money
No amount of thought experiments will equal you just donating to a cam whore to have her write your name on her body, it will cause you to immediately understand the quid pro quo dynamic of females
Because your 2 view has never seen you, money and your dedication has been the sole metric she has judged you on, so it's the only part of you that matters to her

Because of that, there is no potential happily ever after relationship that is possible with her as a boyfriend.

However,
You can 100% transition her into a sugar baby, and can groom her into being whatever you want her to be with your money and influence.
Example;
https://files.catbox.moe/lv2tep.mp4

^This mentally unwell 2view was groomed into being a fart and poop fetishist after big donors pushed her into it long enough.
Every woman who has the ego to want to become a streamer, can be groomed into becoming exactly like this.

This is why pomu and kiara have nudes of themselves flowing around, egotistic and validation seeking women can be groomed with money, you as the man however, need to develop yourself into a proper groomer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:13:28 2022 No.26652137 >>26651540 No it means the other guy is probably her bf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:20:45 2022 No.26652484 >>26651962 But what if I don't have any money?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:20:56 2022 No.26652490 >>26651962 >Kiara nudes If you're talking about the one where she's lying on a bed, that was confirmed to be fake and shopped. She has gravure sets but they don't go further than showing cleavage and her in sexy underwear

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:22:25 2022 No.26652555 >>26651358 >Any girl that has a gaming PC has a boyfriend The harsh truth

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:23:09 2022 No.26652589 >>26651549 This fucking bitch gave me a foot fetish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:24:12 2022 No.26652629 >>26652137 pretty much this, don't waste your time if someone is probably in deeper than you, it ain't worth it

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:28:22 2022 No.26652840

>>26639213
>taking it slowly and respecting their boundaries is the best move
You're just another viewer and that's all you'll ever be. You are being raised on her farm and she is your master, and that makes you worthless in her eyes. And I'm not joking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:30:12 2022 No.26652920 >>26597247 If you leech off this thread, Desertorium, I will santet your ass with my indonesian black magic. Have fun finding your dick up in the tree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:32:37 2022 No.26653025 >>26652920 Oh Fuck! Thread is going type ii

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:44:41 2022 No.26653594

>>26652490
I'd given a lot of money to pastryprincess way before any of you knew she existed, around maybe $400 she sent me something special.
It's personalized with my name and some other stickers, a few of us in the discord have one and they're all personalized, probably so she'd be able to find and litigate any leakers

I don't really care too much about the EU revenge porn laws, but I do want the etsy opened back up so I'm not going to scare her off from doing so

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:44:50 2022 No.26653601 Courting Chuubas General when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:51:07 2022 No.26653916 File: 2 KB, 124x118, Anyagus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 Put me in the screenshot! I witnessed this moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 19:51:21 2022 No.26653929 >>26652555 Not necessarily true but it does prove she's had a gamer bf for a long time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:16:55 2022 No.26655197

>>26640505
Its a platform for private conversation. In 4chan's public forum, any chad can just wander by and call this shit thread out. When you have a discord with conversation being controlled by two or three people, and a majority either mentally ill, emotionally neglected, or children with developmental brains, it results in the talkers imposing their will on the sheeple retards.
Plus, since its private conversation it feels more intimate than discussion betweeen us anons.

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:22:52 2022 No.26655476

>>26655197
>When you have a discord with conversation being controlled by two or three people, and a majority either mentally ill, emotionally neglected, or children with developmental brains, it results in the talkers imposing their will on the sheeple retards.
Zoomers will beg you to add them on discord and steam, I think it's that they are desperate for a parental/big brother/mentor figure really it's surprising we don't have more scandals

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:31:52 2022 No.26655846 >>26655476 Every tranny you see in the streets is a scandal, likely born from Discord. Shit just doesn't get reported

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:41:09 2022 No.26656246 >>26651549 >>26652589 She made me a cunnyseur

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:41:55 2022 No.26656281 File: 13 KB, 295x300, game is afoot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >What I really need is a fucking groomer support network

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:45:44 2022 No.26656448

I am going out with the girl behind my 2views chuuba I've groomed.
We met a year ago and after becoming her top donor and the most active person on her Discord, we agreed to have a date. That was 2 months ago, and now I am looking for a house to bring her in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:51:12 2022 No.26656697 >This thread holy fuck take your meds lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 20:54:39 2022 No.26656827 File: 596 KB, 645x669, 1625030428568.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26598519 >>26653916 me too!

Anonymous Wed Jun 22 22:07:43 2022 No.26659836

>>26598519
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