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/#/ - Numbers Anonymous Mon May 30 00:08:18 2022 No.25175540 [Reply] [Original]

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Anonymous Mon May 30 00:08:50 2022 No.25175564
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:09:52 2022 No.25175620
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>127,576: Salome (Nijisanji)
>38,282: Marine (Hololive)
>34,735: Subaru (Hololive)
>33,516: Gura (Hololive)
>31,133: Ayame (Hololive)
>29,949: Aqua (Hololive)
>22,321: Miko (Hololive)
>20,956: Vox (Nijisanji)
>19,557: Nui (Nijisanji)
>17,720: Mio (Hololive)
>17,538: Kanda (Nijisanji)
>17,457: Botan (Hololive)
>15,411: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,827: Watame (Hololive)
>14,687: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,528: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>13,793: Haachama (Hololive)
>13,186: Noel (Hololive)
>13,016: Towa (Hololive)
>12,666: Chloe (Hololive)
>12,430: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,371: Met (774 Inc.)
>11,694: Bae (Hololive)
>11,586: Ame (Hololive)
>11,466: Mio (Hololive)
>11,446: Rindou (Nijisanji)
>11,338: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,324: Shu (Nijisanji)
>11,038: Watame (Hololive)
>10,924: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,706: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,502: Luna (Hololive)
>10,391: Ema (VSPO)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:10:42 2022 No.25175662 So Salome is going to beat Kobo in less than day and probably will beat Vox and Council in two days or so

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:10:54 2022 No.25175670
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>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal
27) Miko (Hololive) - 110,076 - WWE 2K22 collab
28) Salome (Nijisanji) - 113,034 - Resident Evil 7
29) Salome (Nijisanji) - 127,576 - Resident Evil 7

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Miko
4x: Salome
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Axia, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:10:57 2022 No.25175672 >>25175620 its not even close...

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:11:56 2022 No.25175721
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>>25175670
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
102x: Hololive
38x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:12:39 2022 No.25175761
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Here's some more clip numbers. Started a daily scrape so I can now compare view counts between days. Note I am truncating off negative view differences in these clips, as some clips become unavailable and drop to 0.
Still funny how Coco is still pulling more clip views even now, compared to some others. Generally clip views in this sort of analysis is heavily influenced by the streams of that day, so Miko and Gura getting high here is because of these streams. There is always residual clip views from previous streams, which is where the smaller views of those who haven't streamed comes from.
I'll be looking at the future graphs of these to see trends over time. There is a lot of data to go through, and maybe I can find another source of clip archiving somewhere.
If I can organise my code to not just do Hololive I'll see if I can do niji or some other smaller corpos.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:12:48 2022 No.25175770 File: 240 KB, 1198x900, FT9rX7LWIAIZmHP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that this is the NijiEN fanbase

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:12:58 2022 No.25175775 >>25175672 Imagine her first karaoke

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:13:33 2022 No.25175808 >>25175721 Can Salome salvage 2022 for Nijisanji?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:14:05 2022 No.25175830 >>25175761 >Still funny how Coco is still pulling more clip views even now, compared to some others. Clippers are going to clip what makes them money. If Coco makes them money so be it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:14:24 2022 No.25175847 >>25175662 ok

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:14:47 2022 No.25175864 >>25175761 I have a feeling Coco is still pulling numbers because Kanata won't shut the fuck up about her. I'm pretty sure every other Kanata clip is her referencing Coco, so it just trickles down

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:14:54 2022 No.25175872 >>25175770 pity (You), this is salami country now, boy. >>25175775 I dont want too. that's a terrifying thought

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:15:24 2022 No.25175897
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>>25175670
>28) Salome (Nijisanji) - 113,034 - Resident Evil 7
>29) Salome (Nijisanji) - 127,576 - Resident Evil 7
at this point not even full Holo fantasy collab can save Holo if Salome stream that day

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:15:51 2022 No.25175929 One of the Neo-Portes is currently streaming to 343 people Salome has 347 people currently sitting in her fucking free chat This is absolutely broken, what black magic did Riku use to get this girl?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:16:01 2022 No.25175936 >>25175775 If the people who watch her really are only looking for an anime character, I don't think they'd be terribly interested in karaoke.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:17:12 2022 No.25175978 >>25175897 >save Holo if Salome stream that day Salome doesn't take viewers away from Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:17:17 2022 No.25175981 >>25175808 Thing is Nijisanji is going o hire more talents. They have to know what they did correctly with Salome and Luxiem and replicate it as much they can

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:17:19 2022 No.25175983 >>25175662 she could reach 1M much faster than gura too

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:17:26 2022 No.25175991 File: 468 KB, 1110x547, dailysalome.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] DAILY SALOME UPDATE! 606K SUBS!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:17:42 2022 No.25176005 Do you think Salome attract 2018-19 vtuber fans that move on because vtuber style become more livestream?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:18:12 2022 No.25176028 >>25175929 sold his soul for a real anime girl

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:18:18 2022 No.25176035 >>25175936 True. She should release some audio dramas and skits.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:18:23 2022 No.25176041 >>25175936 >No, im not terribly interested in my favorite anime character singing songs retard?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:18:25 2022 No.25176043 File: 931 KB, 1122x1122, 5952.15.40.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's with the sudden surge of SC in WWE and and a shill stream? She doesn't even read SC like the last 2 horror games

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:18:38 2022 No.25176051

>>25175770
I mean, Vox has nobody but himself to blame for this. This is like enabling an alcoholic by giving them booze and then acting surprised when their liver (the actual organ) fails. He knows how crazy these people are and he keeps upping the ante with his disgusting ASMR streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:19:03 2022 No.25176069 >>25175936 Ah yes the notoriously hated event of checks notes anime girls singing, that would never be popular at all, anime girls are best known for never ever singing in the OP or the show itself

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:19:18 2022 No.25176084 >>25176005 yes

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:19:29 2022 No.25176094

>>25175830
>>25175864
It is separated by source, so the clips have a source corresponding to a stream from Coco's channel. This is just residual views from previous clips.
Mentions on Holodex is fucked since it copies mentions of the stream to the clip, meaning a stream with 20+ mentions will have all their clips also mention every single member there. I gave up and defaulted to sources, which sometimes also has clips with 10+ sources. I just divide the view count and distribute it to the channels.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:19:39 2022 No.25176104 >>25176043 All of HoloEN seems to have inclined in superchats recently. IRyS and Bae are also pulling some pretty big numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:20:08 2022 No.25176128 ... i was a holofag, but now i have made two YT account, one for holo that i subs, one for Salome only

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:20:21 2022 No.25176140 >>25176043 not sure one the wwe stream but the in the shill stream someone mentioned you would aka if she did a FC and a few other people joined in

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:20:22 2022 No.25176142 >>25176051 money, anon. tell me you would do differently if you had a horde of virile chinese women with credit cards chasing you down

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:20:28 2022 No.25176150 >>25176043 apparently whales got their paychecks

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:20:59 2022 No.25176181 >>25176043 The shill stream is because she read some random red superchat that caught her eye and got literally 12-15 red SC in a row after that

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:21:00 2022 No.25176182 >>25175981 Their talent hiring is gonna slow to a crawl if they keep trying this solo debut thing. Which is probably a good thing given their already bloated roster.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:21:58 2022 No.25176214 >>25176140 fucking hell i need to go to bed this sounds like something an ESL would type. essentially someone said they would aka if she got a FC and others joined

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:22:01 2022 No.25176219 File: 78 KB, 876x444, 1653869576961.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is this about? >>25175774

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:22:13 2022 No.25176225 >>25176084 I can see why. Salami's livestream feels like old gen vtuber style but it's livestream rather than video content

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:23:14 2022 No.25176258

>>25176142
Hey, that is his decision but then he shouldn't be surprised when they literally hunt down and kill Reimu. As far fetched as that sounds if you don't think crazy fujos are capable of doing that then you are pretty naive.

The thing is that the last time something like this happened Vox was a little bitch and didn't properly address it. I wonder if he is going to grow a pair of balls and address his fanbase because they are getting out of control.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:23:31 2022 No.25176269 >>25176182 >Their talent hiring is gonna slow to a crawl if they keep trying this solo debut thing why does that matter if you keep getting 100k chuubas, she's making more than an entire gen, more than 2 gens.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:23:40 2022 No.25176276 >>25176219 learn to read tweets she's joining nijien that's it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:24:44 2022 No.25176333 >>25176219 Isn't she some super menhera? Probably lying, and if she isn't she's not getting in now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:24:55 2022 No.25176344 >>25176219 >the brap girl they got another finana for them....

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:25:52 2022 No.25176378 >>25175620 >hololive 21 >nijisanji 8 >others 3 so nothing changed huh no box incline/recline

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:25:58 2022 No.25176383 >>25176219 >no source >no archive >some 2view they're just advertising themselves anon, you're telling me people screenshotted her tweet but no one made an archive on wbm?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:26:54 2022 No.25176429 >>25176383 https://twitter.com/GwynParamour/status/1531065429292195844

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:27:21 2022 No.25176454 >>25176219 What would be the point in deleting the tweet afterwards? Just don't tweet it at all if you wanna keep it secret.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:27:50 2022 No.25176469 >>25176219 99.9% chance it's a fake screenshot but if it's not there's a 99.9% chance she's lying/got phished and if not there's a 100% chance she's getting shitcanned before she even debuts

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:27:54 2022 No.25176474 >>25176454

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:28:58 2022 No.25176521 File: 1.17 MB, 1280x1280, women understanding.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25176454 >>25176474 am retard

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:30:02 2022 No.25176571 >>25176429 >succubus >recolor chocosen ogey

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:30:38 2022 No.25176598 >>25176383 >some 2view Even better some 2view who's best known for farting and masturbating on stream, disappearing then reincarnating every week and doing streams where she reads /vt/ threads about her

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:31:13 2022 No.25176622 >>25175620 >Gura finally has good numbers >She is still out of the top 3

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:31:28 2022 No.25176636 >>25176598 Wait, she's Alice? Good for her I guess, hope she can cool it down with the menhera.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:31:48 2022 No.25176654 There lack of streams even from the NijiEN?! Wtf happening today?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:31:48 2022 No.25176655 >>25176521 This is good response pic for >>25175770 too

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:33:13 2022 No.25176716 >>25176654 Memorial Day weekend in burger land. They are all spending the holiday weekend with their boyfriends.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:33:42 2022 No.25176736 >>25176654 emergency meeting to tell them that Salome is replacing Riku as the CEO

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:33:47 2022 No.25176742 >>25176219 >Getting the girl who already went by four different names in a few months and is best known for farting/masturbating on stream What the fuck Niji...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:34:54 2022 No.25176803 >>25176378 >IPO scam? IPO scam

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:35:35 2022 No.25176841 >>25176005 How many people do you think were even watching vtubers in 2018-19? Besides, if they left because of the shift to live variety streams they're not coming back for this, she's doing basically the same thing Mito has been doing all along

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:35:56 2022 No.25176861 >>25176219 >Aloe of NijiEN let's go

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:37:22 2022 No.25176928 >>25175770 >Randos on the internet thinking they have a deeper relationship with the guy than his friend that he talks to off-camera You hate to see it.

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:37:55 2022 No.25176958

>>25176378
One strong talent from Niji isn't going to change how much Hololive dominates the vtubing space. Nijisanji was always about being top heavy anyway (King). Hololive, on the other hand, can have Marine, Pekora, and Aqua out for the entire month and still set one of their highest medians ever as seen here >>25172074

That is just how strong Hololive is and Nijisanji will never be able to match the power of the box.

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:39:07 2022 No.25177001

>>25176378
Even with Salome it's going to be funny when the end of month median/average charts come out and it's something like

>HoloJP
11,000 avg
>NijiJP
3,000 avg

Nijisanji will probably never catch up to Hololive if we are being honest with ourselves.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:39:22 2022 No.25177014 >>25175770 good thing nijis have a new toy so this EN branches is irrelevant now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:40:09 2022 No.25177042 >>25176742 Sounds like she will fit just fine

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:40:51 2022 No.25177081 Salome funneling viewers to hololive will be the final nail on Niji's failed meta

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:41:08 2022 No.25177094 >>25175770 Man, I really fucking hope Vox and Mysta stay far the fuck away from NijiJP, christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:41:17 2022 No.25177098 >>25177001 what if new gen is all Salome level

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:41:18 2022 No.25177101 >>25176958 >>25177001 Indeed Let's let the Nijiniggers have their fun. We know that HoloChads are the real masters of this domain.

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:42:03 2022 No.25177135

>>25176622
Blame JOPs for everything. The best part about it all? Subaru averaged over 30k over the course of a 5 HOUR LONG VOD, 3k more than Gura, and her total views after 15 hours is what Gura had for her WWE stream in 30 minutes. Yes, that is not a joke. Gura already had 400k by 1 hour.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:43:47 2022 No.25177205 File: 155 KB, 448x448, 1644495574786.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25175770 >Reimu Reimu bleeding all around >Reimu Reimu chopped head down >Reimu Reimu six feet underground >Reimu Reimu you are dead Ok, I'm laughing my ass off

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:44:17 2022 No.25177230 >>25176219 She's lying, completely lost her marbles or got scammed like the Vshojo scandal. Niji might make some dumb hiring decisions but there is zero chance of her ever getting in

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:44:58 2022 No.25177267 >>25177205 They are actually going to kill Reime aren't they?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:45:20 2022 No.25177292 >>25177098 Anon, it's not easy to find great talents like Salami. Just look how many dud that Nijisanji debuted before hit the jackpot

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:46:21 2022 No.25177344 kobo karaoke for 500k doko?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:46:22 2022 No.25177346 >>25175770 is this better or worse than the mori/chicken schizos

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:47:40 2022 No.25177410 >>25177292 i know but the numbers has shattered my expectations of reality

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:49:10 2022 No.25177474 >>25176142 >virile china hates tranies anon

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:49:36 2022 No.25177493

>>25177098
Her debuting solo was a big factor behind the initial hype, and also meant there was no splitting of attention post-debut which has helped sustain it
I don't think you'd get a crowd this size to stick around for 6 hours of anime girl streams a day instead of one (assuming they didn't overlap)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:49:40 2022 No.25177497 >>25177292 She's the first of the 12 constellations of Nijisanji. With Tsukino Mito, they will form Spacesanji and conquer the universe...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:50:34 2022 No.25177538 >>25177344 probably today which is shame, she could reach +20k if she was on schedule, saturday night is the perfect time for this

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:50:39 2022 No.25177542 >>25177346 About a million times worse

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:51:39 2022 No.25177593 >>25177410 Just because one talent is a big hit doesn't mean next talent would be a big hit too Example: Council. As good as they are, they're not Myth

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:53:05 2022 No.25177676 >>25177497 >2018: Mito >2022: Salome So next constellation will be debuted in 2026

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:53:37 2022 No.25177704 >>25177676 Mito is the moon. The next constellation will be next month.

Anonymous Mon May 30 00:55:08 2022 No.25177773

>>25177493
yeah that sounds logical. But still, I wouldn't be surprised if it does happen again. A week ago, this thread would've laughed at the thought of a 100k chuuba, somehow it feels like we're in an alternate reality where nobody bats an eye except us.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:55:10 2022 No.25177774 >>25177593 should've used gen 4 after holo fantasy but yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:56:27 2022 No.25177834 >>25177774 Don't memoryhole Coco now, also Kanata and Towa are doing very well.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:57:03 2022 No.25177862 Salome sched this week >RE7 >Bus Sim >Karaoke on Friday night

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:57:52 2022 No.25177919 >>25177862 karaoke going to reach 200k

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:58:31 2022 No.25177949 >>25177774 At least Gen 4 has Coco. Gen 5 probably much better example. I don't want to say this though because everyone will call me gen 5 schizo

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:59:27 2022 No.25177993 >>25177919 Chumbros... Not our bragging rights...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:59:33 2022 No.25177997 >>25177862 I believe she wants to do zatsu this week?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 00:59:51 2022 No.25178016 >>25177862 ? shes not posted anything on twitter

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:01:03 2022 No.25178084 >>25177949 Isn't Lamy doing well in term of SC?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:01:17 2022 No.25178096 >>25177993 Uh... Gura killer?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:02:40 2022 No.25178172 >>25177834 Kanata and Towa were not especially popular to begin with, and had a lot of shitposting directed at them, both on 5ch and here I think Council (and Irys) are on sort of the same trajectory to some extent

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:02:45 2022 No.25178179 >>25176378 Hololive has a box, Nijisanji doesn't. That could change, but it's just not how they function. Saw the same thing with King just dominating in there, but mostly the people showing up to watch are there to watch him not others.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:02:56 2022 No.25178195 >>25177919 She is going to shatter all of Gura's records

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:04:29 2022 No.25178272 So what the hell happened to Gura's VODs anyway? Faster processing? I mean this WWE VOD reached 600k lighting fast and then..just started growing slowly. Like all her VODs still got 100k+ growth in them but it takes weeks.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:04:44 2022 No.25178288 >>25177949 >>25178172 People ITT thinks that a new debut should have a 20k median right out of the gate (heh) or they're a failure, forgetting that even the golden gen 3 took some time to take off as well

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:06:58 2022 No.25178409 If the rrat of Salome being the Joe fan who was an idol trainee is true, she might be a good singer. Imagine the karaoke numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:07:18 2022 No.25178424 >>25178272 Fauna is numbers poison

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:07:56 2022 No.25178457 >>25177538 i doubt it's going to be today.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:07:56 2022 No.25178456 >>25178409 Also a good dancer. Imagine the 3d live numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:08:12 2022 No.25178468 File: 508 KB, 540x395, A3FF04BC-5016-4779-94B1-9EB56EA977FD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mr. Riku, I don’t feel so good…

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:08:14 2022 No.25178471 >>25177773 There is a very large gap between this happening with one person rather than a group. It's like how getting hit by a lightning strike is wild, getting hit by five is astronomical.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:08:45 2022 No.25178497 >>25178409 Most watched nijisanji stream, beating Koshien

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:08:53 2022 No.25178504 >>25178096 if she can keep it up for another week, definitely a gura killer but since there's no bait thread about gura killer yet...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:09:24 2022 No.25178523 >>25177834 All of gen 4 is doing well. Even Luna has started to pick herself up.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:10:14 2022 No.25178560 >>25178471 If Anycolor actually timed her solo debut before IPO, they have a really good eye for talent at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:13:21 2022 No.25178685 What happens when Salome crashes back to earth and becomes a sub 1k shitter like Edengumi?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:13:55 2022 No.25178708 >>25178685 Won't happen until after the karaoke at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:14:11 2022 No.25178720 >>25178504 CCV, sure, but JP market isn't EN. The chance of her ever catching up in subs is very unlikely.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:14:17 2022 No.25178728 >>25178685 IPO scam confirmed?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:14:24 2022 No.25178737 >>25178708 She never actually posted her schedule.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:15:38 2022 No.25178787 >>25178685 Can't see it happening. When she stabilizes she'll most likely still be stronger CCV than King.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:15:50 2022 No.25178797 >>25178708 *until IPO phase ended FTFY

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:16:42 2022 No.25178825 >>25178685 doesn't really matter, really she already sets new records even if she was out of relevancy a couple of months later nijis still can brag about her, no holo could ever pull this off

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:17:08 2022 No.25178838 Melissa is graduating tomorrow. Predictions?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:17:34 2022 No.25178853 >>25178838 0.4 Salome

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:18:53 2022 No.25178924 Sea otter bros...can we get to Namibia levels? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnxefImhu8

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:20:07 2022 No.25178974 >>25178924 >Not even on Bald Eagle nest levels Pfft https://youtu.be/B4-L2nfGcuE

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:20:46 2022 No.25178996 >>25178825 HoloX would still have the fastest sub growth record if Susan hadn't deleted 100k+ subs from them, and she hasn't broken any other records

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:20:51 2022 No.25178999 Can you guys speed up the thread and bite some bait? Your schizos are shitting up /hlgg/ because it's too boring here.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:21:41 2022 No.25179025 File: 186 KB, 750x519, 1653872182277.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:22:11 2022 No.25179044 >>25178838 niji is more likely btw do we have any signs of life from EN3?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:24:07 2022 No.25179132 >>25179025 How come we never get any credit for things like identifying CCVID over a week before anyone else did but we get pinned with shit like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:24:42 2022 No.25179161 >>25179025 Now thats real HoloEN cope. The concept of any other company getting their own runaway succcess doesn't sit well with Holobronies

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:25:04 2022 No.25179182 >>25178825 Aloe comeback streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:26:03 2022 No.25179219 >>25179161 Does any of this sit well with you? It doesn't with me. There is something funky going on and deep down you know it.

Anonymous Mon May 30 01:27:03 2022 No.25179255

>>25178272
Contrary to what many believe, VODs tend to process the vast majority of the views within that initial 8-10 hour timeframe. What comes after that is typically those who watch the VODs. This doesn't mean extra processed views don't come, it's just that you can't expect a VOD to get 200k within 10 hours and then suddenly get 150k more the next 14. It just doesn't work that way and have it treated as processed views. And this was talked about yesterday that if she maintained 4k views/hr she would reach close to 670k views by 24 hours. She's likely gonna hit 660k by that point which is about where it was predicted.

Also understand that Gura has a ton of VOD watchers that appear as time goes on. I already did a mini-series about her daily growth during her break and her VODs were growing like mad regardless. Even if she managed to get 2k views/hr over the course of 24 hours, that would be over 50% more than what Closing Shift was getting at its peak (+30k 24 hours after the initial 24 hour of processing) and mind you, Closing Shift gained over 100k views in 7 days so expect Gura to continue pushing forward.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:27:19 2022 No.25179273 >>25179132 Because we identified CCVID but then as soon as JP got "fixed" while it still looked like EN was affected it was like CCVID never existed and the last samurai went right back to shit posting. That is why nobody takes us seriously.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:29:49 2022 No.25179365 >>25179255 (me) sorry there was a typo there. Meant to say: "and then suddenly get 150k more the next 14 and have it treated as processed views" I forgot where I'd written it midway

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:30:26 2022 No.25179389 >>25178838 Sub salome

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:32:10 2022 No.25179469 https://youtu.be/gA0lA2Umqgc?t=1838 Why not just watch how you can practically duplicate your numbers just with the TLB on this touhou-like game?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:33:39 2022 No.25179536 >>25179219 Again. I accept numbers as presented unless some team YT employee speaks out or hackerman wikileaks drop it. Everything since the 20202 cull, ccvid cope, niji zhang bots etc. is just schizophrenic conspiracies

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:38:22 2022 No.25179759 >>25178685 she would be at least Lize tier or even King tier but not Lain tier

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:40:20 2022 No.25179835 >>25178838 hmm, maybe 2/3 salome

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:44:33 2022 No.25180001 >>25179835 she'll be lucky to get 1/3 Salome

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:45:36 2022 No.25180041 >>25175770 Why reimu tho?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:46:02 2022 No.25180056 >>25180041 Reimu interrupted his boyfriend rp asmr to ask him about five nights at freddies mid stream

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:47:52 2022 No.25180140 >>25180001 isn't she on the popular niji female side? even that graduated apex chick from KR got like 80k iirc ccv

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:48:28 2022 No.25180167 >>25179835 >>25180001 1/2 a salome it is then.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:49:09 2022 No.25180195 >>25179255 Anon, son't pretend to know how youtube algo works, especially since it changes all the goddamn time.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:52:00 2022 No.25180311 File: 1.31 MB, 2488x1576, 1642159402118.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tiktok numbers pretty sure they don't care about this either but oh well

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:54:09 2022 No.25180405 >>25180311 >tiktoks Still absolutely pointless and baffling move.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:55:41 2022 No.25180470 >>25175770 God imagine what will happen if he slips up and makes mention of Taiwan.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:56:28 2022 No.25180496 File: 114 KB, 537x632, kobo tiktok.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25180311 I thought gura already beat kobo

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:56:44 2022 No.25180509 File: 73 KB, 977x418, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/Professor_Lando/status/1530735976745607168 Thoughts? He talks about vtubers and weebshit, has 650k yt subs and 100k followers on twitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:56:51 2022 No.25180512 >>25180405 1 billion users.

Anonymous Mon May 30 01:56:58 2022 No.25180520

>>25180405
complete waste of time and effort, I know they want to "expand" their audience but tiktok in NA is NOT like Japan
in japan is pretty normal to shill anime stuff, it's embedded in the culture, expecting the same from the US is extremely retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:57:05 2022 No.25180526 >>25180311 Ame actually is doing an interesting horse race with goomba she finally will stop ghosting her and start to do more collabs with her in the future

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:57:31 2022 No.25180543 >>25180470 They don't care about that. Mysta with his dumb mouth asking "Taiwan is a country, right?" and nobody cares. They care more about getting cucked

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:59:13 2022 No.25180600 >>25180056 The fuck!? Why would she do that? That's an ass move and rude

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 01:59:37 2022 No.25180615 >>25180470 >taiwan they did multiple times, actually, a few nijiJP's did it before Coco and nothing happened to them it was just that hololive was getting quite a bit too successful for their taste in that time so they sperged out

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:00:29 2022 No.25180647 >>25180520 It's not even that, you need to constantly upload new content on tiktok, or else you're dead on that platform. And let's face it, HoloEN won't fucking do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:01:32 2022 No.25180686 >>25180470 Nobody cares about that shit newfagchama. It was only an excuse to kicked holo domination outta b2

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:01:35 2022 No.25180690 How much is 1 salome?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:02:09 2022 No.25180710 >holomogged >owakonEN holobros...ID is our only hope...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:02:11 2022 No.25180712 >>25180690 100k

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:02:13 2022 No.25180716 >>25180647 tiktok is pointless https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/27/ksis-tiktok-makes-only-3000-despite-nine-million-followers-16723246/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:02:33 2022 No.25180725 >>25180690 Around 1 kazuha + apex + celeb collab + tourney

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:04:05 2022 No.25180777 >>25176051 >liver (the actual organ) It's hilarious that you need to specify this

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:04:18 2022 No.25180784 >>25180690 100k

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:04:41 2022 No.25180804 >>25180716 Tiktok is about expanding your fanbase rather than make money

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:04:50 2022 No.25180809
File: 46 KB, 629x186, MOGGED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Imagine being Koyori, who streams an insane amount compared to almost all other vtubers, getting mogged by Salome in less than a week. Someone should check on her honestly. I feel bad.

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:05:52 2022 No.25180841

>>25180647
I mean, you kinda could live there with a few popular clips but you would need a supporting box to be able to do so
kinda the same way Ayame works in the current year, she can stop streaming for literal months and come back to pretty good numbers because of the box
holoEN needed to grow their own box first but it doesn't look like they really want to
unless you are mori that is, then you can shamelessly leech from the JP box whenever you want

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:05:55 2022 No.25180845 File: 552 KB, 1080x2159, 1653876331103.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HoloX...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:06:38 2022 No.25180880 >>25180809 She made it into Hololive, the top 0.1% of the industry, after years of grinding so I'm not sure why should anyone feel bad

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:06:53 2022 No.25180885 >>25180716 the popularity in tiktok is directly translated into sponsored content, that's their main revenue

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:07:20 2022 No.25180898 File: 666 KB, 2042x2803, 1653410118220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25180809 >>25180845 ohohohoho

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:07:31 2022 No.25180910 >>25180809 That's what she gets for choosing the wrong company. Nijisanji has always been number 1 no matter how many EOP want to pretend Hololive is on top and relevant when numbers have been showing their recline all year round

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:07:34 2022 No.25180914 >>25180809 >>25180880 yeah, top .01 being mogged by literal top of the industry right now isn't really anything to be sad about

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:08:27 2022 No.25180939 >>25180716 for every content creator with a brain, tiktok isn't a revenue source, it's just an advertisement for their actual content somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:08:27 2022 No.25180940 File: 764 KB, 958x2109, 1638899399664.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25180809 not that bad relative to any nijisanji liver she currently ranks 15, that means she already passed over 100 nijis

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:08:40 2022 No.25180949 >>25180910 this vtuber market is clearly for Asia only

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:09:27 2022 No.25180983 >>25180809 Lots of other holos who stream way less than her are also more popular. I don't think she cares, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:09:42 2022 No.25180994 >>25180940 NOO DON'T YOU DARE PASS ARS AND HIMA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:10:07 2022 No.25181006 File: 290 KB, 1249x699, 1632364148733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25180809 >>25180940 (me) in contrast with hololive where she would rank in the 40's only passing about 20 people

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:10:54 2022 No.25181028 >>25180809 Still makes more money than salowhore

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:11:05 2022 No.25181036 >>25181006 This is gonna sound like a cope but Hololive's sub numbers sure are inflated in comparison to viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:11:21 2022 No.25181043 >>25180940 lmao imagine working your ass off whoring to other males in events and selling out to the chinks to be displaced by a literal paid seat

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:11:25 2022 No.25181045 >>25180994 Hima is a fucking nobody now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:12:09 2022 No.25181078 >>25181043 The absolute state of nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:12:30 2022 No.25181092 >>25181036 Cope? Well it's the truth. It's far apparent too for certain members

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:12:43 2022 No.25181100 >>25181006 it would be painful if she passes miko

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:12:52 2022 No.25181106

>>25181036
the main reason is the lack of streams on the main channel, if you want to watch a popular event, you would have to watch in in a holo channel, see mariokart, amongus, 3D events etc
while in nijisanji you could just sub to the man channel and watch whatever it's thrown in there

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:12:54 2022 No.25181109 >>25180809 She streams because she enjoys it anon. It's not just to get high number.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:13:14 2022 No.25181126 >>25180940 damn, she's gonna be top 10 by tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:14:27 2022 No.25181172 >>25181106 I thought it was the gaijin tourists.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:14:32 2022 No.25181177 >>25181043 >b-but she's going to share her viewers soon (tm)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:14:44 2022 No.25181190 >>25181036 coco and myth rocketed hololive popularity between 2019-2021 no wonder why their subs are so high

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:14:46 2022 No.25181191 Thread seems pretty chill rn, did the flipnig get banned?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:15:31 2022 No.25181229 >>25181191 Isn't it that dude shitting on nijisanji right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:15:48 2022 No.25181242 >>25181191 shitposters busy with nijiEN ""drama"" it's really just a small number of chinks being mad at reimu but being shat on by literally everyone

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:17:07 2022 No.25181303 >>25181036 that's not a cope it's an observation >>25181106 that's a cope

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:18:28 2022 No.25181366 >>25181191 Unless its rangeban, nope.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:20:57 2022 No.25181479 bros this is it salome mindbroke me... i can't see 30k-40k is good enough... give me your meds bros

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:21:27 2022 No.25181492

>>25181036
for a while they definitely were, especially compared to other successful vtubers at the time. The benefit of being in the HoloBox
Now, they see a bit low compared to the EN Twitch streamers that transitioned and how much Susan has culled.

Then again, subs!~ccv and all that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:23:09 2022 No.25181558 >>25181479 don't you mean oha-bu's?

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:23:19 2022 No.25181568

>>25181036
Not terribly uncommon with western channels to have escalating sub counts with flat viewership, though. For example, LTT main channel is around +5m since the start of the pandemic, but viewership has practically been flat the entire time. In that context, the ratios for someone like Gura are pretty standard for mature channels doing well.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:23:27 2022 No.25181572 >>25178838 Who? Salome is the hotness now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:25:26 2022 No.25181656 >>25180809 That'd be like the marathon runner kid from my high school years being upset that he's not faster than Usain Bolt. She's fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:26:29 2022 No.25181710 >>25180841 I live in a cave what is box

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:26:43 2022 No.25181727 >>25181479 https://playboard.co/en/video/KLVPRKjmkBM >biggest NA YT streamer >3.6 million subs >return from wedding stream chat+ >Huge Among US collab with 15 popular streamers 32,120 peak that's how unusual Salome's numbers are.

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:29:12 2022 No.25181835

>>25178838
40k and that it's a chat stream with the friends she's been hanging out with recently.

Also,
>most successful solo Nijisanji musician after Kuzuha
she's most likely picked up by someone else, either straight from her alt music account by a record deal, or as a new persona.
She would have just continued releasing music on the side otherwise i think. Plus she's deleting all her content.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:29:21 2022 No.25181846 >>25181727 I thought Ishowspeed is the current biggest streamer on YT? Though his reputation is pretty low.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:29:56 2022 No.25181870 >>25181727 Markiplier is one of the few who can actually compare, he gets 100k viewers on his streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:30:54 2022 No.25181913 >>25181572 way to out yourself as fake nijifans

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:31:28 2022 No.25181939 >>25181846 Yeah, he is actually. Timtt and DrDisrespect are also still bigger. I should have went with "most marketable", though that's probably Sykunno now. >biggest female streamer Let's go with that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:32:02 2022 No.25181979 >>25180809 If anything, she'd feel bad for working on the same company as Ayame.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:32:58 2022 No.25182019 >>25180809 Being in hololive is already a big achievement IMO, even for nijifan like me i can't Deny that, >Big exposure >Get well know from the start >Get money by just playing game

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:33:45 2022 No.25182052 >>25181870 Yeah but, >33 million subscribers The events and Brazilian pastors are the only ones that got more lately.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:34:26 2022 No.25182086 >>25180809 Mayori is good, but I wish cover would promote her more instead of you know, lapuchan...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:35:09 2022 No.25182119 >>25181710 an ecosystem that they share, their interactions make it so that if you watched A and A one day collabs with B, then you will have no problem watching B, particularly happens when A stops streaming

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:35:51 2022 No.25182153 https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1530274777256316928/pu/vid/640x360/Mv4A4p0joecuCRrO.mp4 OH NO DESU WA

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:37:03 2022 No.25182206 >>25182153 It's Debi (forma humana)?

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:37:21 2022 No.25182219

>>25181939
Come to think of it.
> TimTheTatman - 24,181 average
>DrDisRespect - 19,015
>IShowSpeed - 37,783
>Sykkuno - 15,190
>Valkyrae - 19,335
>Ludwig - 18,251
Almost all of these used to be 30k+, or around 10k more on average.
It's just Speed that kept his numbers.
NA streaming seems to be in freefall this season.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:37:40 2022 No.25182235 >>25182153 I believe this rrat

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:38:23 2022 No.25182279 >>25182219 it's all relative to the covid numbers, pretty much everyone started going out to touch grass again

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:38:25 2022 No.25182281 >>25182206 Doubt it. Not to be mean or anything but if it was true Debi would be more popular

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:38:47 2022 No.25182296 >>25182153 Yab

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:38:50 2022 No.25182300 >>25182153 Ok, i hear it. As opposed to every other comparisons, this is the closest. Has Debi streamed during Salome's time yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:39:32 2022 No.25182346 >>25182281 Debi isn’t a cute girl that’s why he isn’t as popular

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:39:49 2022 No.25182356 >>25182153 that's the least schizo rrat yet

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:40:00 2022 No.25182364 >>25182153 is this the equivalent of haachama and the other blond girl shitpost back then? aria or smth

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:40:09 2022 No.25182372 >>25182052 Korotube AVERAGES at 136k so I don't know what you're talking about https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCgOfjIl0I_oG7VxIoaKaRsw

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:41:53 2022 No.25182463 >>25182300 No, but I'm doubtful it's actually Debi, just a coincidence.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:41:53 2022 No.25182462 >>25182300 Debi's throat is fucked so they don't stream much recently

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:41:58 2022 No.25182469 >>25182153 I would unironically drop her if it turned out she was this cringe furfag streamer. Doesn't really sound the same though in my opinion.

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:42:40 2022 No.25182516

>>25182372
we were giving NA tuubers as examples anon since it's NA hours. Follow the thread
>salome mindbroke me... i can't see 30k-40k is good enough

Otherwise we all know Jun and KoreKore beat every NA outside of XQC and Asmon, yet have terrible sub/viewer ratio.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:43:50 2022 No.25182577 >>25182516 since when Brazilian pastors live in NA

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:45:27 2022 No.25182673 >>25182364 it's like akai haato /haachama arc but does right

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:46:33 2022 No.25182724 >>25182153 >debi misses the art student so salami is born powerful rrat

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:47:23 2022 No.25182758 >>25178084 Isn't she doing well in terms of... everything? She's basically one of the more financially secure Holos on roster by virtue of her business savvy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:47:31 2022 No.25182764 >>25182153 Link doesn't work for me

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:48:16 2022 No.25182795 >>25182758 we hate lamy here

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:48:22 2022 No.25182799 >>25182764 https://files.catbox.moe/4u2fk6.mp4

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:53:38 2022 No.25183030 >>25182019 If I realized something from Nijisanji it's that debuting there is like playing poker, you get given a hand and gotta play with that, whether you get a crap hand or a royal flush it's all up to luck

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:56:24 2022 No.25183144 >>25183030 It's all up to skill more like. If you're good you get views, if you suck you get shit views. You get a guaranteed amount of views in hololive even if you have the personality of a rock.

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:56:53 2022 No.25183163

>>25183030
I don't think that's exactly accurate, you also need to be interesting to go viral in the first place. I remember mito saying before that she thought she was doomed when she first saw her l2d because it was so fucking shitty and no matter what she did it still looked jumpy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:59:05 2022 No.25183245 >>25183144 pretty much this, it's why there's a lot of bottom feeders in nijisanji. meanwhile in hololive you can debut a piece of paper with a TTS attached on it and it will reach 1M subs in a year

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:59:09 2022 No.25183248 >>25175770 lmao they sound exactly like the psychos in the mikeneko general

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:03:02 2022 No.25183406 Dead thread

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:03:25 2022 No.25183419 >>25183245 there's a lot of holos who haven't got 1m yet though

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:03:56 2022 No.25183439 >>25183406 I’m finally free. See you losers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:04:49 2022 No.25183483 jwu, surprised to see the thread so dead. is it because no holo streams so people can't just shit on whoever's streaming?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:07:12 2022 No.25183576 >>25183483 I don't that's the case, but it's nice for a moment like that $11 incident when the thread is quite for 3 days.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:07:56 2022 No.25183607 >>25183483 shitposters and tribalniggers retiring from the thread because holo isn't winning anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:08:00 2022 No.25183610 >>25183406 >>25183483 our pagpag eating friend who makes up half the posts here seems to have temporarily fucked off, don't complain about it, post some numbers/trends/news/questions you want to discuss

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:09:37 2022 No.25183674 File: 342 KB, 508x855, 4stats.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25183483 # is declining... >>25183610 Thank fuck, hopefully the mods rangebanned him

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:09:52 2022 No.25183685 File: 137 KB, 327x297, 1651096259358.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25183607 Hololive will always be winning in my heart

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:12:11 2022 No.25183758 Ah, peace.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:12:52 2022 No.25183783 >>25183610 >questions Who has the best song numbers after Suisei and Mori?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:14:21 2022 No.25183837 >>25183783 Gura?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:14:29 2022 No.25183843 >>25183783 Total song views or singleton?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:15:22 2022 No.25183878 >>25183783 Marine

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:17:42 2022 No.25183965 gg celtics

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:17:48 2022 No.25183971 File: 295 KB, 2009x2000, 1651229900039.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25183783 You know who

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:19:45 2022 No.25184039 >>25183971 >After Suisei and Mori

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:19:59 2022 No.25184051 >>25180470 Fujos don't care about that

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:20:54 2022 No.25184092

>>25183783
I haven't actually run the numbers on this, but I'm 90% sure it's Okayu. She's got a fuckload of > 2m compared to the rest of Holo and also releases songs more often than everyone short of Suzy/Calli. I'm also pretty sure the big Nijis have 1-2 big songs and then a graveyard of everything else.
>>25183878
Marine is like 2-3 enormous songs and then a graveyard. Gura's basically the same deal, but with bigger numbers and fewer total songs.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:21:55 2022 No.25184139 File: 114 KB, 935x703, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haha what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:22:45 2022 No.25184181 >>25183783 in views ? i guess gura and marine in that order

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:23:35 2022 No.25184217 >>25183971 read deadbeat read

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:23:55 2022 No.25184236 >>25182153 >Me who already subscribe to Debi Damn, that's a jackpot

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:23:59 2022 No.25184243 >>25184139 Member stream Sunday for Mori and Fauna. Literally no excuse for anyone else though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:23:59 2022 No.25184244 File: 3.59 MB, 334x298, 1651096834236.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25184139 Something weird about this or is it just bait?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:24:42 2022 No.25184267 >>25184139 timeslot is shit, I think it would do better in IRyS timeslot since bae streams there sometimes but yeah these three doesn't have the same star power streaming pull as other EN combinations

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:26:14 2022 No.25184335 >>25184139 reclining...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:26:41 2022 No.25184350 >>25184139 So many bait in this one picture

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:27:47 2022 No.25184402 >>25184092 Okayu is cover song queen

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:27:58 2022 No.25184410

>>25184139
It's Memorial day on the 30th (US Holiday). Besides the two that are 100% out (Mumei and Ina), Ame, Gura and Fauna are likely gonna be with family for the next day or two, but Fauna had a member's stream today. That leaves IRyS, Mori, Bae, Kiara, Kronii and Sana.
Sana is a wash.
IRyS is streaming tomorrow with her Karaoke + Cover
Mori Member's stream.
Kronii doesn't stream Sunday
Bae not streaming today
Kiara already streamed.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:28:04 2022 No.25184416 File: 135 KB, 1080x600, 700k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] # finally have their oshi

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:28:23 2022 No.25184429

>>25184243
Lots of them are taking announced breaks I realized, Ina, Mumei and I think I saw someone say Ame was going to take a few days. Also Sana.... But the theory is that EN3 should happen in the upcoming days, since it would be beyond dumb on not releasing a new gen during summer vacation.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:28:39 2022 No.25184435 https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1531113891010187264 Kobo numberfagging

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:28:42 2022 No.25184440 >>25184410 >, Gura and Fauna are likely gonna be with family for the next day or two, but Fauna had a member's stream today. Fauna has a collab with Watame tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:29:50 2022 No.25184487 >>25184440 Oh fuck me I misread and thought it was someone else. Yea, Gura and Ame are ??? status right now, being burgers and Family they're close with. We'll see if they stream tomorrow or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:29:54 2022 No.25184493 File: 38 KB, 702x109, Sports.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can VTubers even compete?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:29:57 2022 No.25184496 >>25184416 I like numberfagging but I don't like it when vtubers are numberfagging.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:30:22 2022 No.25184507 >>25184440 does Fauna speak nihongo?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:31:11 2022 No.25184540 >>25184507 Nope. She'll try her best though. It's only going to be on Watame's channel, too. It's Switch Sports so I guess they're hoping they don't need too much conversation.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:31:15 2022 No.25184541 >>25184416 cocky but i like it will make a thread when she passes mumei

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:31:37 2022 No.25184560 >>25184496 I can't understand this cucked mentality at all, is it from jap passive gay culture?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:31:39 2022 No.25184563 >>25184507 same amount as Mumei, but they've already collabed before

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:33:06 2022 No.25184616 >>25184493 We need the aftv vtuber equivalent Just need to sign up Ty and DT clones and we're good

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:33:16 2022 No.25184623 File: 9 KB, 512x512, angry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25184416 >>25184435 NUMBERFAGGING IS NOT FOR CHUUBAS CORRECTION NEEDED

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:33:20 2022 No.25184627 >>25184563 >>25184540 ok, i'll check out their last collab

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:33:51 2022 No.25184643 https://twitter.com/dartslive/status/1531108202393501696 lmao Hololive darts.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:34:21 2022 No.25184658 >>25184435 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:34:39 2022 No.25184669 >>25184643 It's Sora time to shine

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:35:02 2022 No.25184683 >>25184139 not CHAD count as part of yesterday tally? btw the bad management and lack of consistent scheduled really it's hurting their ccv the CHAD cast used to have 14K-15K before

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:35:54 2022 No.25184718 >>25184683 It really doesn't help that it's on Bae's channel, to be fair.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:36:21 2022 No.25184728 >>25184683 no, that's only when it was on Irys or Mori. Bae got 12k last time so it's consistent.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:36:37 2022 No.25184740 >>25184643 kamon yagoo, let konamee make those pachinko machines with holo pictures, get those perms

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:37:06 2022 No.25184761 >>25184643 >Darts Daisenpai time

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:40:00 2022 No.25184853 File: 825 KB, 1249x479, 1629642245648.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25184718 I mean, Mori is not particularly a powerhouse right now either

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:40:22 2022 No.25184867 Is Pekora really a numberfag as people claim she is? I can't imagine Salome monster numbers being good for her mind. Like straight up she should disconnect entirely from the internet for a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:41:36 2022 No.25184901 >>25184496 unlike gura she doesn't fear success any way can be worst she can be like mysterio and do a lot of celebrations then have a emotional meltdown if a buff stream failed to hit 10K then do a guerrila new house celebration to contered it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:42:10 2022 No.25184923 >>25184867 didn't you already try this bait with koyori >>25180809

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:42:41 2022 No.25184945 File: 363 KB, 1500x2000, 1652352467987.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25184867 >pegor a numberfag Your reps anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:43:12 2022 No.25184965 >>25184853 those were all on horrid timeslots. Chadcast was a decent timeslot, could've gotten 15k on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:45:23 2022 No.25185030 >>25178825 eh not really, you'd just be met with the same shitposts nijitribalfags mention gura with. Past glory and all that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:46:11 2022 No.25185064 File: 418 KB, 859x789, 11-44-59-downloadfile.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still the greatest question mark after last night

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:49:19 2022 No.25185179 >>25185064 what question ? the no funnel

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:50:54 2022 No.25185231 >>25185064 salomefags are not v viewers. they dont give shit bout nijiholo

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:53:33 2022 No.25185321 >>25180910 what did anon mean by this retarded post when evidence to the contrary exists? >>25172074

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:53:57 2022 No.25185339 well, from now on, just ignore the day Salome streams and focus on the day she breaks and count gold from there, i accept she is our undisturbed queen of number

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:55:06 2022 No.25185377 >>25176104 If you actually look at their monthly total it's not much higher than previous months

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:55:58 2022 No.25185407 So, when's the IPO? I wanna buy and sell for a quick buck.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:56:22 2022 No.25185422 >>25185377 that's because they streamed more in the past? they're getting more SCs per stream now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:56:42 2022 No.25185434 >>25185339 I'm curious if there is a time when a vtuber get automatic gold when streaming

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:56:51 2022 No.25185442

>>25184965
Idk why 15k is thrown around. I don’t think chadcast has ever even GOTTEN 15k before. The last one hit its highest peak ever and it was like 14.2k or something, and that was because it was ridiculously entertaining. Most of them have been in the 11-13k range

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:57:28 2022 No.25185464 >>25185064 Begs the question why not use the new raid feature and raid some NijiJp streams, If they're not NijiHolo fans then that would be a way to convert them

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:57:48 2022 No.25185470 >>25185422 If they streamed more they might end up getting less per stream

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:57:53 2022 No.25185474 IPO is the best thing that has happened to the vtuber industry. Anykara is really legitimizing vtuber as a real entertainment form.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:57:57 2022 No.25185477 >>25185321 >12k median across all JP talents jesus christ that's a huge power gap

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:58:24 2022 No.25185490 File: 47 KB, 540x540, tumblr_88a299ef8f1268e5f7b0e01dce97411a_ebc1a095_540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25183685 amen brother

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:59:42 2022 No.25185537 >>25185474 >entertainment companies >public trading Probably the most retarded combination in the business world.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:59:58 2022 No.25185544 >>25185464 have any JPs in Holo or Niji raided? We've only talked about EN raids

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:00:57 2022 No.25185569 >>25185434 Mito san 2018

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:02:25 2022 No.25185625

>>25185442
(Me)
I went back to check
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/NmMyXa8pIgY
Last one was 15k but that was on Mori’s channel. And the previous can be chalked up to it being 2 months ago and it being in better conditions with what was happening at the time.
Considering Bae’s variations have been less than the others I don’t think this is much of a problem

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:03:48 2022 No.25185665 https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1531122521050730496 >Superstar Nijisanji rising up Aqua, Ayame, Marine, now Mr Koro all getting on.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:04:42 2022 No.25185695 >>25185569 I wonder how Nijisanji manages to get once-in-a-generation talents all the time. They got Mito that changed the whole vtuber business, now they have Salome which is bringing vtuber scene to new heights.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:05:50 2022 No.25185732 >>25185665 back already? I figured it'd be longer

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:05:53 2022 No.25185737 >>25185474 Vtubers are just streamers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:05:56 2022 No.25185740 >>25185665 hololive is coming back to their leech root huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:06:39 2022 No.25185758 Niji Apex draft. Can this beat Salome? https://youtu.be/a6g3hA1Uzig

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:07:09 2022 No.25185779 >>25185464 Bots won't transfer (see the Sara Nagare stream for example).

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:07:09 2022 No.25185780 >>25185758 no, 50k ako 0.5 salome max

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:07:15 2022 No.25185787
File: 77 KB, 261x259, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

What if....(Shizo)
Anycolor goes to stocks
Riku needs to find a way to make investors interested in the company
Tries botting to that vtuber (forgot the name but it went 40k views)
balance out the botting expense and returns
*Enter Salome*
Salome refuse not to put Nijisanji in profile
Nijisanji put Salome name to show investors

They only need to bot salome streams constantly to 90K+ to show investors there's a profit

that's why salome is a solo not released in a group (cause they need to support the entire group which cost money)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:07:30 2022 No.25185794 >>25185758 They did something similar last year. I don’t think it was close to Salome’s numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:08:10 2022 No.25185816 >>25185758 Yes that Gwelu guy will get 150k mark it down now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:08:13 2022 No.25185822 >>25185758 Nijisanji might get gold all June if they can keep stacking the buff.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:09:42 2022 No.25185856 File: 1.32 MB, 1749x851, 1653812059047.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25185787

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:09:54 2022 No.25185867 >>25185665 Guess manager-san are furious

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:10:49 2022 No.25185895 >>25185758 This tournament will be all Niji only, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:11:48 2022 No.25185926 >>25185665 Far too late

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:11:55 2022 No.25185932 >>25185856 i want to see Salome poll, not because I think it's bots but I want to see how unculled she is.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:12:02 2022 No.25185935 Is this going to be the new shitpost meta that anytime i holomem does anything it is because of a random chuuba in another company

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:12:18 2022 No.25185945 >>25185867 I mean, you have to admit that the popular Holos are from older gen while newer ones like HoloX is not doing as well as expected. Meanwhile, Nijisanji only needs a new member likeSalome to beat an entire company of top streamers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:14:05 2022 No.25186005 >>25185867 tick tock EN branch

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:15:13 2022 No.25186041 >>25184092 I was surprised to find Ryuushen is song top from Niji (volume+numbers), with ~20 1 million+ songs. Otherwise, Melissa an Kuzuha have the biggest songs and a few 2 mil+ to back then up Will post full list tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:16:11 2022 No.25186080 >>25186005 Just scrap HoloEN and focus on HoloJP, they are getting beaten black and blue there. If Yagoo wasn't too busy playing models instead of managing his company, he would have done it.

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:16:42 2022 No.25186099

Hololive JP has a median of 11,700 and Hololive EN at 7,300. Niji JP is around 3890 (3770 before Shalom). If anything, there's too many deadweights right now in Niji's main branch. Instead of debuting more talents, I'd rather have them cut off the 2-3views.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:16:58 2022 No.25186113 >>25181656 Except in the analogy Salome just ran a Marathon in the time Korori runs a 400m

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:17:25 2022 No.25186129 >>25186080 Yagoo is busy scoring sponsorship deals.

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:17:49 2022 No.25186147

>>25186080
HoloEN still has the NA market you absolute ape. No, Luxiem being labeled EN doesn't mean shit when 90% of their fans and income are fucking Asia. The only thing management SHOULD be doing is pushing for more sponsors instead of being lazy fucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:18:39 2022 No.25186175 >>25185695 >all the time well, they don't. but they hire more people so they have a better chance at landing someone who's just that good

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:19:02 2022 No.25186192 >>25186080 B-but if there's no EOP viewers, how can they even complete in Japan now?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:19:03 2022 No.25186193 >>25186129 When sponsors see Cover's competitor doing 5 times the number, who do you think they would go for?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:19:37 2022 No.25186214 >>25185895 The last time there was NijiPex, didn't fucking Matsuri end up on the winning team?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:19:43 2022 No.25186219 >>25186147 stage 2: anger

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:20:05 2022 No.25186225 >>25186099 In Niji's eyes this validates their strategy. Just keep debuting people until someone pops. Doesn't matter if it takes 50 people before you get someone good. The other 49 will earn enough to pay off their models so they're still profitable.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:20:06 2022 No.25186226 >>25186129 They got sponsorship because of their numbers, not the otherway around

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:20:10 2022 No.25186229 >if it's not number one, it's a loser This place will bring company bankrupt if they become a CEO

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:20:38 2022 No.25186247 >>25186080 Here is your (You), I'm feeling generous. Now kindly impale yourself to spare the rest of the world of your retardation.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:21:31 2022 No.25186279 When is her sub growth going to start slowing down? She's at 615k and I see no sign of it yet, but surely she's going to run out of people at some point

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:21:52 2022 No.25186295 >>25186214 That's why I asked. The last Nijipex is very controversial because they invited outsider especially pro players on their tournament

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:21:58 2022 No.25186301 >>25186219 Is this a shit post? Why are chink shitpost so out of touch?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:21:58 2022 No.25186300 This is why they keep baiting, even in dead hours you guys decide to bite.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:22:48 2022 No.25186336 >>25186099 Because in the public eyes, they can only see the few big stars, nobody gives a shit about some 3views noname

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:22:55 2022 No.25186344 >>25186229 >its ok to be number 2 its because of this mentality that we have lazy shitters like holoen

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:23:10 2022 No.25186352 >>25186193 Definitely not the suspiciously high single metric but no proven track record of selling out any kind of product yet chuuba. Meanwhile Hololive basically saved Valkyrie Connect and they are looking forward to doing another collab

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:24:09 2022 No.25186390 >>25186295 This is the Apex tournament for Apex noobs in niji, not some serious shit

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:24:39 2022 No.25186418 >>25186295 Depends if they have enough players to fill the spots. If not they'll do the same thing as last time, so the draft will definitely get numbers for people seeing how they plan to proceed this time.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:24:45 2022 No.25186422 >>25186344 If management don't encourage the talents, the talents are just not going to care. Such is life of an employee.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:25:19 2022 No.25186441 >>25186344 Must be hard then, to be a nijichink?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:27:08 2022 No.25186498 >>25186441 ill always side on who has the best number because im a /#/chad

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:27:34 2022 No.25186517 >>25185758 sub 1/2 salome. >>25185895 its all non CR-nijis basically shitter nijipex

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:28:16 2022 No.25186544

>>25186422
Then the problem is on the management for not giving enough incentives for the employee to put in more than minimal effort. More than likely no normal person sees being a Vtuber as some sort of be all end all dream job that they would put in 110% effort doing. Only actual passionate streamer and attention seekers care about doing more than minimum job.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:28:36 2022 No.25186554 >>25186422 Even Cover's CEO is just someone who gets pushed around, how can you expect the company to thrive? That's one of the bad things about rewarding talents equally, they get complacent.

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:30:09 2022 No.25186606

>>25186225
>>25186336
But that's unsustainable. JP Holos can get sponsors for just about anything and still put up decent numbers ccv wise but you can't say the same for Niji JP where only the top talents can score deals and anyone else gets table scraps.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:30:37 2022 No.25186621 >>25186498 But HoloEN has the best numbers in the EN VTuber scene on YT?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:30:42 2022 No.25186625 >>25186498 >ill always side on who has the best number because im a loser RL and the only way to show superiority is using other talents Fixed

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:31:44 2022 No.25186660 File: 70 KB, 1832x688, nijisanji top ccv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:32:01 2022 No.25186671 Someone post the branch medians chart already

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:33:35 2022 No.25186724

>>25186606
That's why Holos aren't ambitious. They can perform to the minimum requirement because they know they will get sponsors.
Niji livers know they have to be successful to get to the top. They know they're not having a silver spoon right from the start. That's why Salome, who is super talented and willing to put out the best content, decided to join Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:34:31 2022 No.25186756 File: 51 KB, 1118x721, 1652808619152.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25186671 I only have the one that has up to May 15. There should be a +5/-5% correction if anything

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:35:39 2022 No.25186790 Stop responding to the bait you knuckleheads

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:35:59 2022 No.25186803 >>25186756 (me) and yes, VSPO is the 2nd best compny right now

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:37:47 2022 No.25186856

>HoloID inclining af mogging x10 all the other companies
>HoloJP inclining even without all the main talents
>HoloEN stable even if people say that it's reclining (check 2021 graphs) and still nº1 EN company in the world without putting any effort or streaming
>NijiJP reclining for 2 years and only 3 chuubas are relevant, 4-5 are decent and the others are literal 3views
>Get 1 superstar which barely seems associated with the company and her viewers give literally zero funnel to other chuubas
>Nijisanji somehow is the strongest company now and Hololive is dead
o-ogey?

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:39:26 2022 No.25186902

>>25186606
To be fair, how is it unsustainable? It doesn't really cost much, if anything after the initial investment, to maintain a VTuber presence. As long as those VTubers are able make a total of ~5-7k$ over their entire career, AnyKara would have made it back, anything more is just a bonus.
>Anyone else gets table scraps
That's true. However, most people don't GAF about it. When most of the publics pay attention to an entertainment group, they usually focus on certain entertainers (usually those at the top). Case in points, you see how nips greatly praised AKB48 (when they were at their peaks, being national idols and all that) on how popular Kami-7 were, or how they sold million singles on the release days, but you don't see that many criticisms about how most of AKB hundreds girl are nowhere nearly as popular as the top members (most of them aren't even pushed by the management either). It's nice that Holo takes care of less popular members to some extents, but business-wise, that doesn't matter much

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:39:54 2022 No.25186927 >>25186625 so much projecting. unlike you who likes to dunks on shitters, i want shitters to improve their numbers so i can fap on more big numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:39:56 2022 No.25186930 >>25186856 >Nijisanji somehow is the strongest company now For now They have the strongest male and the strongest female vtubers in the industry after all

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:40:08 2022 No.25186939 >>25186856 128k > 111k

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:40:22 2022 No.25186949 >>25186856 >>25186803 Vspo is mogging Nijisanji and there are still baiters called Niji 1st

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:41:07 2022 No.25186979 >>25186856 THE HOLOCOPE IS DELICIOUS STAY SEETHING FAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:41:09 2022 No.25186980 >>25186930 >strongest female vtubers but thats not gawr gura?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:41:51 2022 No.25187006 yep, SEA hours, see you in 12 hours as usual

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:42:10 2022 No.25187014 >>25186856 >HoloEN stable even if people say that it's reclining more like stagnating like what kiara had said

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:42:24 2022 No.25187024

>>25186856
People care about the top, not the bottoms. One massive superstar on the level of Salome will be enough.
Heck, even that Ludwig said it before, your average or median viewerships are meaningless, it's only your peaks that matter. Niji's usual CCV is peaking beautifully under Salome right now (and presumably, will increase their special events as when when she started participating them)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:42:26 2022 No.25187028 >>25187006 during salome mogging hours? sure

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:42:35 2022 No.25187036

>>25186606
It's not unsustainable, they've been doing it since day 1. People don't seem to understand there is almost no overhead or maintenance cost for vtubers. Does it dilute their brand? undeniably, but they've already crossed that line long ago of having too many people for fans to care about everyone, so adding more won't make any difference.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:42:44 2022 No.25187044 >>25186724 It's funny that Nijisanji is full of unambitious people and doing vtuber as a part time job and some of ambitious Niji actually graduated. I remember seeing somebody use part-time job as cope for their mediocre number

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:43:12 2022 No.25187062 >>25186980 Who? The queen of dead subs? Then sure

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:43:16 2022 No.25187064 >>25186980 Tell me the last time Gura got 127k from a regular gaming stream. You can't. Salome is the strongest female Vtuber right now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:44:07 2022 No.25187099 Honest question: A 3D Live consisting of Aqua, Marine, Pekora, Subaru, Miko, Mori, Gura and Kobo vs Salome Karaoke? Which side do you think will get bigger numbers?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:44:23 2022 No.25187115 >>25186856 >Nijisanji... is the strongest company i agree anon

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:44:36 2022 No.25187125 >>25187024 Yeah, /people/ care about the top daily CCV, not real humans

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:44:37 2022 No.25187126 >>25186927 >projection about other try to projection Is this inception?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:44:40 2022 No.25187128 >>25187044 most EN holos are studying or doing rm shit which i'd count as a part-time job

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:45:22 2022 No.25187160 >>25187099 why is Suisei not included?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:45:56 2022 No.25187182 >>25187160 who

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:46:13 2022 No.25187193

>>25187028
It's almost "Holo being mogged" hours 24/7 nowadays.
>JST / Asian hours are dominated by Salome
>HoloEN doesn't even stream much, if at all, during EN hours, and unless Gura streams, HoloEN numbers aren't far ahead of Luxiem's
You can always shitpost against Holo at any point of time nowadays, maybe with the exception of big events from Holo or during EN hours when Gura streams buffed contents - both are rare occurrences

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:46:28 2022 No.25187202 >>25187064 no need to beat a dead body as chumkeks only have subs as their cope

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:46:36 2022 No.25187203 >>25187064 God, I want her to become worldwide famous so bad right now. The age of Nijification is only beginning.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:46:44 2022 No.25187212 >>25187128 I know that but everyone shits HoloEN as lazy whore but I rarely seen somebody shits NijiJP for being lazy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:47:58 2022 No.25187256 >>25187193 If Riku can use his mage to find a superstar in ID, Hololive will truly become the 2nd rate company.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:48:12 2022 No.25187269 >>25187212 Because the board is a holo board, no one knows nijisanji shitters, and all discussion is focused through the prism of Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:48:30 2022 No.25187286 So what happens if Salome top 100k on a Monday night? I can only kneel so much...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:48:31 2022 No.25187288 >>25187212 99% of this board is about EN and the remaining 1% JP talk is this thread talking about numbers. You still didn't notice?

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:48:46 2022 No.25187300

>>25187125
*Shrug* I meant, that's opinion of a well-known, popular big name in the streaming scene (who also earned shit tons of money and sponsorships). He isn't biased against either Niji or Holo as well. I'd assume that his opinions hold some values, at least more than random anons around.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:49:00 2022 No.25187310 >>25187099 Salome is still new to the game, so it is rather hard to predict her ceiling and limit while the former is 200,000 CCV worthy But if I have to take a guess, Salome's first(?) karaoke stream would be easily over 150,000

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:49:08 2022 No.25187315 >>25187212 because shitposters don't care about the vast majority of NijiJP. They still only care about Holo, and on Niji side they only think about Shalom,King,Vox

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:49:17 2022 No.25187320 >>25187256 2nd rate literally means garbage, 20IQ-chama

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:49:31 2022 No.25187330

>>25187212
Because there are more of them (and honestly very few people here watch their daily streams outside of events because they don't know Japanese). It's a lot more obvious when 7-8 out of 11 of the ENs don't stream or only do members stuff, especially when someone's day revolves around watching vtubers and posting about them.

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:49:42 2022 No.25187339

>>25187212
Because they are allowed to be lazy, since Salome is already cementing Nijisanji as the top in Japan. To be honest, the lack of ambition from top dogs like Marine and Pekora is the reason why Holo fans in JP have been switching to Salome instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:50:25 2022 No.25187373 >>25187202 They can't even use subs as cope since CookieSwirl mogs Gura by a mile. Chumkes literally have nothing to cope with. >Mogged in most CCV >Mogged in most SCs >Mogged in most subs Yagoo should just graduate all of Hololive out of shame.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:50:38 2022 No.25187381 >>25187339 >the reason why Holo fans in JP have been switching to Salome instead. proof?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:50:42 2022 No.25187384 Welp, looks like the flip shitposters have decided to set up camp early today. Guess the thread's unusable until after the tally.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:50:43 2022 No.25187385 >>25187256 anon, the ID branch is no longer debuting new talents or holding auditions, how do you expect that to happen?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:51:07 2022 No.25187407 >>25187315 Nijisanji only needs 3 to take on the entire Holo branch. What a downfall for Hololive.

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:51:16 2022 No.25187411

>>25187300
>well-know, popular big name
Isn't his CCV peak like 200 at most? He's literally a fucking midget, spaniards can get 2,4M and in one month Ibai is going to break Twitch record getting at least 3M, so why would you care about a literally no name?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:51:27 2022 No.25187418 >>25187212 Because they're not lazy. They're mostly busy behind the scenes. A lot of Niji Vtubers are.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:51:33 2022 No.25187423 >>25187381 NTA but im seeing holo pfp in her youtube and twitter comment but not that much

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:51:47 2022 No.25187431 >>25187339 >Gura was already cementing Hololive as the top in western so the others are allowed to be lazy Somehow I can see the future of Nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:51:58 2022 No.25187438 >>25187373 Hey, at least she is still the best performer in that dying branch

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:52:35 2022 No.25187468 >>25187385 Sure, it's not like they have already found someone through connection already. Just one big boom from Nijisanji and Kobo will be reduced to dust again.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:53:22 2022 No.25187491 >>25187418 >Because Council are not lazy. They're mostly busy behind the scenes. I can use that cope too. Hell, it's already used before this

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:53:25 2022 No.25187493

>>25186193
>>25186226
Sponsors don't normally sponsor in the short term. All of these deals are made fiscal quarters in advance. Until AnyColor can prove that Salome can keep her audience, sponsors would more than likely hedge their bets.

But none of that matters because all you wanted was to shitpost.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:53:29 2022 No.25187496 >>25187468 that doesn't answer my question, how would they audition and debut an ID if they have no ID branch?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:54:01 2022 No.25187516 >Relentless samefagging to shit up the thread >Rehashing old baits >Some people actually falling for it Any of you faggots who can't recognize the obvious nonsense need to fucking kill yourselves and go do some reps.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:54:23 2022 No.25187530 >>25187384 You mean the tally that Salome will get gold?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:54:34 2022 No.25187539 >>25187491 ??? We've seen Niji talents who haven't stream for literal years helping out with merch, 3D lives and concerts. Council is just lazy as fuck and Hololive doesn't even do that much concerts/lives to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:54:51 2022 No.25187553 >>25187438 I wonder what Yagoo is thinking rightly, seeing his creation slowly being surpassed. If only he tries to manage his company instead of playing a clown. The whole HoloFes3 is a great swan song for the brand ngl.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:55:15 2022 No.25187569 I wonder if the uptick in shill activity during Salami hours is so Enikara can show it to investors >rook, even gaijin are big interest in company

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:55:22 2022 No.25187574 >>25187530 Only if she starts before 24:00.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:55:28 2022 No.25187583 >>25187516 This thread quality would be x100 times better if we had a flag like /int/ and people could see which posts are a self-reply

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:55:43 2022 No.25187589 >>25187493 Expecting literal underaged philippinos ,who most likely stopped school at the 3rd grade, to understand how the business world works is a stretch anon

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:55:53 2022 No.25187597 >>25187373 >gura has never been the best at ccv, pekora held the title until aqua entered vsaikyou and then salami happened >marine and king actually beats her at vod >she also isnt the best at SC in her branch >salami will probably beat her 1m record

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:56:32 2022 No.25187613 >>25187493 I think you broke the undereducated shitter's brain anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:56:43 2022 No.25187618 >>25187553 I wonder just what the deal is with Yagoo. You rarely see Riku doing this kind of stupid thing nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:56:53 2022 No.25187624 >>25187583 That would only slowed schizos because they would be switching VPNs all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:57:00 2022 No.25187630 File: 1.82 MB, 360x343, bait [sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fkpur8h.mp4].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] retard hours

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:57:11 2022 No.25187637 >>25187597 Thanks for confirming my points retard

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:57:18 2022 No.25187641 >>25187586 But anon, what can one do when its 1-2 faggots replying to each other? It doesn't take much to utterly derail the thread when it's slow and the jannies are slow to respond.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:58:06 2022 No.25187670 >>25187597 It would be funny if Salome gets to 4M faster than Gura as well. If only the girl has more dedicated EN translators

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:59:26 2022 No.25187720 >>25187670 the humor doesn't translate, it wouldn't matter. Same problem the rest of nijisanji has.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:59:46 2022 No.25187732 >salome 600k subs >1m avg vod views >100k median >gura 3.9m subs >300k avg vod views >15k-20k median holy dead subs

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:00:12 2022 No.25187745 >>25187574 She has been moving her streams one or two hours earlier in the last two days, probably to avoid exactly that (accidentally starts the stream on a new ranking day)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:00:29 2022 No.25187760 >>25187203 she's as bad as lamy if you want a non-japanese speaker to enjoy her. you'd have to hire some western gaming localization editor to make the humor work for english speakers

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:01:37 2022 No.25187795 >>25187732 why are you throwing golds at shit? no need to compare salome to some mid vtuber

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:02:30 2022 No.25187828 >25187745 holy fucking meds

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:03:23 2022 No.25187850 File: 99 KB, 1125x576, 384628736823867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:04:33 2022 No.25187881 File: 189 KB, 463x453, gurrat[sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2F2v9sxq.mp3].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >New chuuba debuts eith huge numbers >shitposters instantly bring up Gura She truly lives rent free in antis' heads.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:04:35 2022 No.25187883 >>25187850 >steady u wot

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:04:54 2022 No.25187894 >>25187516 >>25187586 >>25187630 Holofags being salty because people /here/ are talking about Salome mogging the shit out of Hololive Btw, cope more chumkek

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:05:21 2022 No.25187901

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co0b8U7PJS4
Salome is so fucking big that girls from other companies are willing to go meta and talk about how awkward it is for someone from a different corp to bring up topics from other companies in order to have an excuse to then talk about her and desuwa it up

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:05:52 2022 No.25187921 >>25187745 ..... .......... ...................... Fuck off man, she's got her schedule and she's stuck to it, not caring about some gold on some indian spice-trading plaza.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:05:54 2022 No.25187922 >>25187850 >252.7% of subscribers Made me kek, thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:06:05 2022 No.25187929 >>25187894 you are one flip and you're not even human

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:00 2022 No.25187954 >>25187881 nah, i am doing what you call 'GRUDGEPOST'

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:16 2022 No.25187961 >>25187828 ? Was I wrong? Her stream yesterday (29th) and the day before that (28th) started at 23:00 JST. Before that, she started her stream on 27th at 0:00AM JST 28th

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:36 2022 No.25187968 Wrap it up guys She gonna stream at 23:00 tonight https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1531110146507780096?t=kLRAx86nrkR6VJfC9Kk9GA&s=19

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:38 2022 No.25187970 >>25187954 You don't know what a grudgepost is flipguy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:56 2022 No.25187983 still no gura killer thread in catalog shitter quality reclining

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:08:10 2022 No.25187993 File: 29 KB, 400x400, smug peko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25187954 You clearly have no idea what a grudgepost is.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:08:48 2022 No.25188016 >>25187970 ugh sure thing, not like ive held hate towards chumkeks from attacking fubuki or something

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:09:05 2022 No.25188026 >>25187961 https://youtu.be/AniQdstq4KM?t=1576 You absolute idiot. Before you claim she's shifting around her schedule to somehow claim some nebulous gold, how about you check the schedule she posted on debut first?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:09:15 2022 No.25188032 File: 608 KB, 1374x569, salomenumbah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25187929

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:09:34 2022 No.25188046 Apparently the big vtuber group that basically filled the niche hololive left open in China, A-Soul, is currently having a big scandal that led to a graduation? https://36kr.jp/187865/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:09:42 2022 No.25188048 >>25187968 lmao rip lui gold Can't wait the holy mogging when June start, with nijipex, CR cup and Daily Salome

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:09:51 2022 No.25188053 File: 60 KB, 1104x591, 2387523784683486.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25187850 oh no no no salomebros..

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:10:04 2022 No.25188062 File: 698 KB, 649x653, 1638401144554.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25188016 roru rumao

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:10:06 2022 No.25188064 >>25187968 Well, I stand corrected, she's streaming early. Gold for today decided then.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:10:39 2022 No.25188082 >>25188026 How do you explain https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1531110146507780096?t=kLRAx86nrkR6VJfC9Kk9GA&s=19 then? She is moving her stream today one hour earlier too (and her stream today was scheduled to start at 24:00 JST)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:10:55 2022 No.25188091 >>25188064 I keep telling you fags, add a platinum medal

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:11:29 2022 No.25188112 >>25187624 Vpn doesn't work unless you are willing to shell out for a pass too, and you'll have to shell out for a pass every time you want to samefag unless you are happy waiting for fifteen minutes between each post

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:11:30 2022 No.25188113 any good graphs or tables visualising salome's growth in comparison to her peers?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:11:40 2022 No.25188119 >>25188046 old news by now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:11:41 2022 No.25188120 >>25188046 They have gotten several big scandals. Probably wouldn't matter much in the long run since they don't have any relevant competitor anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:12:41 2022 No.25188149 At this point I don't know if it's the flip baiting or there are people so fucking retarded that actually believe anybody outside here cares and would base her stream schedule around the 4chan global gold

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:12:57 2022 No.25188159 >>25188016 ah I see, you are that guy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:13:07 2022 No.25188166 >>25188091 No, I want to see if Holo can win any gold this month on a day with Salome around

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:13:23 2022 No.25188178 >>25188062 kekw>>25188032

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:15:03 2022 No.25188220 >>25188113 complete domination

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:15:47 2022 No.25188246 File: 32 KB, 469x238, 283478723875636.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] vox

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:16:08 2022 No.25188256

>>25188046
Yeah we talked about that three weeks ago. I think it's the first time in /#/ that we dealt with an actual black company
>>25188120
No, not really, there are competitors in the CN market, and the CN market is kinda like the JP market where its basically completely saturated so eventually someone will replace them.
Also in a souls case in particular this is especially bad for them because they only had five members and bank alot on the box, so losing one of them admist a huge scandal is extremely damaging to them compared to, say, Nijisanji with their 100 plus talents

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:16:09 2022 No.25188257 >>25188220 Considering Salome, anyone can edit COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION with Riku and Salome?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:16:40 2022 No.25188270 >>25188016 holy shit truly rent free, those chumbuds aren't event around anymore and you're still seething, they did their job well, truly mindfucked you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:16:41 2022 No.25188271 >>25188178 I don't really care, retardchama. You made the same shitposts with Holox debut, HoloEN debuts, and even Council. Gura will outlast this newcomer also.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:17:04 2022 No.25188281 >>25188246 Good luck getting that money out of China. No seriously, even if Anycolor is working with b2, it's a massive fucking pain pulling that cash out of the country without incurring stupid-high amounts of 'taxes'.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:18:54 2022 No.25188359 >>25188149 I don't think she care about gold but I can see she is streaming one hour early from midnight because her number is better in that timeslot It could be weekend buff though

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:19:11 2022 No.25188367
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So, now that salami is getting 127k ccv, it's official that gura and the rest of holoEN are literal who nobodies now, right? That there's finally an actual "gura killer", the EN nightmare is over and they'll all graduate this year?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:19:22 2022 No.25188378 >>25188246 >4 hours >250k$ How is Western market supposed to compete against this? I'd have sold my body and soul for this too

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:19:29 2022 No.25188382 >>25188246 maybe he'll see 10% of it in a year.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:19:45 2022 No.25188387

>>25188281(Me)
Just because I forgot to elaborate....
B2 takes like, 50% of it first of all. Then the CN government wants their cut too, and it's especially bad since they don't like it when money leaves the country so it's pretty bad, like 30% of the totals bad. That leaves 20% to split between Anycolor and Vox (whereas it'd be 70% on YT). Then you also throw tax on that last 10% Vox gets.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:20:49 2022 No.25188432 >>25188256 Speaking of which graduationsanji is still happening btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:21:10 2022 No.25188442 >>25187745 This is your mind off meds, anon. Please medicate responsibly.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:21:15 2022 No.25188445 >>25188387 I believe you also need a handler to get your money out of China which normally takes betwwen 6 months to a year

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:21:17 2022 No.25188446 >>25188271 i actually didnt use any holo

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:21:35 2022 No.25188454 >>25188367 sure, they'll graduate just as soon as you leave the board.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:22:11 2022 No.25188466 >>25185740 I wonder if they'll start commenting on Salome's streams just like how they commented on early nijisanji streams for clout

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:23:24 2022 No.25188506
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The quickest way to expand the market is now probably by debuting more talents. Personaly, I think hololive is too slow (with many talents busy & take breaks), while niji en is way too fast (although it's still safe for them since their targeted market is different).

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:23:37 2022 No.25188513

>>25188367
>>25188367
You see. The definition of literal who are people that don't get talked about anywhere. The moment you have to use Salome to say Gura is a literal who means you've already admitted to knowing who Gura is and the comparison is because she is literally living rent free in your head to the point you need to bring her up for comparison

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:23:37 2022 No.25188515

>>25188149
No one GAF about 4ch global gold. Nips DO care about ranking sites like Vrabi, Playboard or Vstats, though. >We have seen many chuubas (or even normal streamers like Jun) with those sites in their bookmarks / tabs. Wouldn't be surprised if companies pay attention there as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:24:00 2022 No.25188531 >>25188256 >I think it's the first time in /#/ that we dealt with an actual black company Not the first one. I think Wactor applies as well.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:24:08 2022 No.25188537

Time to 400k
Hyakumantenbara Salome - 8 Days
Vox Akuma - 79 Days
Hoshikawa Sara - 475 Days
Suzuhara Lulu - 479 Days
Otogibara Era - 479 Days
Ars Almal - 546 Days
Lize Helesta - 593 Days
Ibrahim - 619 Days
Honma Himawari - 621 Days
Tsukino Mito - 625 Days
Fuwa Minato - 626 Days
Ange Katrina - 632 Days
Furen E Lustario - 672 Days
Inui Toko - 694 Days
Mayuzumi Kai - 705 Days

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:24:28 2022 No.25188547 >>25188506 No, the best way is to ignore advices from retards in /#/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:24:29 2022 No.25188549 >>25188166 You know it won't happen. With a platinum medal, the gold can still be somewhat competitive

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:24:48 2022 No.25188557 >>25188506 when will /#/anons do something like this instead of shitflinging

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:25:00 2022 No.25188570 >>25188466 When did that happen?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:25:07 2022 No.25188576 >>25183783 For the people that actually seem to be serious about music? Probably Okayu then Aqua and Towa, maybe Watame after that. There is a significant gap between Suisei/Mori and anyone else though and it's kind of a shame.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:25:50 2022 No.25188598 >>25188547 Advice like what, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:26:09 2022 No.25188607 File: 108 KB, 749x1014, i made it up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25188506 >I confirmed lightly I wonder if those "60%" include the Koshien tourists.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:27:24 2022 No.25188657
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So wait, is Hololive doubling down on JP and graduating all of ID and EN to compete with Salome? This one vtuber is powerful enough to wipe out all the side branches at once?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:27:36 2022 No.25188664 >>25188445 Yea, I didn't mention that part directly since it's implied due to Anycolor and B2's partnership with Virtualreal. Makes it even MORE of a pain with the extra time delay.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:28:03 2022 No.25188680

>>25188549
Not really. Without Salome, it'll be back to Hololive dominating the tallies except maybe one or two months out of 12 a year. It isn't really that exciting when you realized that just like how it is now between Holo and Niji / Salome, it was unlikely for Niji to win a gold without a special event or Holo's top batters taking breaks before. The roles are just reversed now.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:28:50 2022 No.25188704

>>25188657
ha.
hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Only shitposters in /#/ would post retarded shit like that, and you're a retard for even entertaining the idea that such a thing makes any sort of sense.
Give me some of what you're on anon, clearly it's the good stuff.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:29:19 2022 No.25188718

>>25188576
>>25188576
>There is a significant gap between Suisei/Mori and anyone else though and it's kind of a shame.
Can't force people to like something. They have to continue promoting their work and hope that one of them gets the flash in the pan that actually lights up the fire.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:30:46 2022 No.25188778 File: 28 KB, 533x389, 1651095544475.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25188657 Of course Either way I'm kinda glad Salome is doing so well if it means JP ghosts like Aqua, Ayame get to come back, plus Korone early return.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:30:53 2022 No.25188782 Now it's up to Salome to swing those numbers into the niji box before it dies down. Both eden and ranankura got their main channel collabs two weeks after debut, let's see if salome gets hers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:31:44 2022 No.25188806 >>25188657 yes, as soon as you leave the board it will happen.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:33:10 2022 No.25188855 >>25188680 And everytime Salome streams, it's an insta-win for her, because it's literally impossible for anyone to break that ceiling. Is not even a roster of different vtubers winning, just one and only one, Salome

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:33:25 2022 No.25188865 >>25188718 Suisei/Mori vs the rest of the company is like the difference between pop artists and indie artists. One just has a lot more reach.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:33:52 2022 No.25188880

>>25188506
it's not about speed, it's about the needs of the market
if you have a HUGE success (like holoEN) and your streamers can't keep up with the demand (start taking too many breaks, they can't make enough original content, restrictions with permissions are a pain in the ass), then you release another gen
Hololive completely letf the english market starving for more, so much that they went after the ID streamers to convert them into english speaking girls and dropped them once they realized that it's not what they expected (big cultural differences)/, they missed the window
nijiEN on the other hand went too fast on the first gens, but that's their strategy, they don't let the market to starve, but instead they overfeed them with content

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:34:30 2022 No.25188898 File: 881 KB, 1327x622, 1231454.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25188570 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEGP9mjT6GY&t=708s

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:37:03 2022 No.25188979 File: 1.12 MB, 850x1154, 1653837304499.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25188855 yep, it's literally fucking over for every other vtuber now and forever. expect holoshit talents to start killin' themselves en masse in the next few weeks

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:37:06 2022 No.25188980 >>25188898 its actually pretty sad when vtuber used to get leeched on by most of holos and left them behind when holos started inclining

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:37:48 2022 No.25189009 >>25188466 that would just backfire at this point, there's plenty of people that still don't know about the new toy and they would start to get more viewers instead

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:37:53 2022 No.25189014 >>25188506 >60% niji related >no funnel >>25185064 hmmm

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:38:09 2022 No.25189021 >>25188979 Good. We can finally be free of Hololive's toxic Idol culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:38:17 2022 No.25189031 File: 44 KB, 1736x362, reminder.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25188979 Kill yourself, shitposter

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:40:17 2022 No.25189090 >>25189021 Nah, if anything, until she collabs with a male, Salami is GFE by default.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:40:19 2022 No.25189091 >>25188466 >>25188898 Nijisanji watchers are tribal. Did that even help her?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:40:54 2022 No.25189105 >>25188980 most of the industry you mean, then they just leave her all alone in her own corner until she goes viral again and copy what she does then forget about her all over again. the cycle of popularity.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:41:38 2022 No.25189132
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>nothing but stale bait
>graphs which depict Anykara being below VSPO willingly ignored
>graphs which show Cover has superior sidebranches ignored
>insert more stale bait here
Truly desolate hours ahead. Night fellas

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:41:46 2022 No.25189138
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>>25189021
yep, I hope salome literally sucks someone's dick on stream and gets 200k+ viewers for it, annihilating both the previous "ceiling" for vtubers and any semblance of "idol culture" being the norm

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:42:45 2022 No.25189167 I've yet to see a post actually interpreting the term "idol culture" correctly

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:43:11 2022 No.25189187 >>25189091 believe it or not, nijisanji indirectly marketed a shitton of literal whos in the industry by interacting with a lot of vtubers and poured audiences to them when they got tired of the nijibox. see nuezou for the most relevant example

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:44:20 2022 No.25189223 >>25188979 yes siree it'll happen just as soon as you leave the board, and not a second sooner!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:44:58 2022 No.25189238 >>25189138 Oh, yes. Breaking YouTube ToS and getting your account nuked from orbit would definitely help kill idol culture. Greenlight it, Riku! You will definitelly be respected by everyone!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:46:04 2022 No.25189275 >>25189238 holy mother of chumbud cope, go eat some shit from gura's asshole you chode

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:46:37 2022 No.25189287 >>25186803 VSPO is second strongest company now. Nijisanji is reclining.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:48:15 2022 No.25189329 >>25187339 Do you understand what the fuck you are saying? The 2 example you give are far from being not ambitious They just finally reached the point where they can’t keep up anymore, health and shit

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:49:05 2022 No.25189352

>>25176378
>>25176803
>>25178179
>>25177001
are you fags retards or what? Salome has literally nothing referencing other nijisanji members or even nijisanji in her profile and account. This can only be analyzed when she begins collabs with other niji members.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:50:19 2022 No.25189378 >>25187423 People who watch Hololive are less tribal than people who watch Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:51:00 2022 No.25189399 File: 341 KB, 1950x1098, ranunbillboard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did salome get billboards too?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:51:16 2022 No.25189407 >>25189275 >be a retard >say retarded shit >be treated like a retard >"CH-UMBUD!" Stop drinking lead water, anon.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:51:47 2022 No.25189427

>>25188657
Lmao no. Ironically the only graduation in sight are from Niji
What is the logic of killing your talents while your opponent is at their strongest? You need more, not less. Shitposter in this thread really will say anything to bait (You) even if it doesn’t make sense

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:52:04 2022 No.25189432

>>25189378
Nijisanji collabs with indies and people from other companies including twitch pros on an almost daily basis. Hololive fans barely even know anyone else in the industry because they only talk to outsiders once in a blue moon or during sponsorships asides from outliers like Chocosen.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:52:32 2022 No.25189443
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>>25189378
Yeah that's fucking dogshit and you know it holobrony, have you tried killin' yourself? Sadly, you probably don't even realize it's a necessity -- your "idols" will never be relevant again.

It's fucking over for you, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:52:54 2022 No.25189454 >>25189427 Holo has a lot of soft graduations though. People who stream maybe once a month like Shion and Aqua and Marine

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:52:55 2022 No.25189455 >>25181835 most successful musician after kuzuha? are you insanew

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:53:33 2022 No.25189474 >>25189432 None of what you said discredits his point, anon. You might want to revise your argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:54:01 2022 No.25189483 >>25183030 Not really. In JP and EN you'll get at least 100k by just existing. After debut its up to you to be successful or not with your content, personality, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:54:04 2022 No.25189484 >>25189352 so you dont watch her stream ok

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:54:05 2022 No.25189485 >>25187203 But she won't become worldwide famous. Her current streaming style which is powerful in Japan is a turn off elsewhere since EOP's don't speak Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:54:20 2022 No.25189492 >>25189454 Holo won't do real graduations because they know the ATMs would stop supporting their shitty product.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:54:47 2022 No.25189505 >>25189399 What billboards? Her channel was created like 4 days before the debut. Chigusa had to confirm if israel with the management after ガチ新人 started trending. There is a reason people thought it's a joke.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:55:15 2022 No.25189515 >>25189454 Better than nothing They still pull number once in a while

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:56:46 2022 No.25189554 >>25189187 Literally whos are still literally whos. Did Aqua actually get any Nijisanji watcher to switch side?

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