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Why do I see people not giving Twitch vtubers a chance? You'll be spoonfed something you say you're looking for or shared some genuinely interesting streamers and you just snub it because it's on Twitch? I legitimately don't understand why.

>> No.25051982

>>25051934
>Twitch
Absolutely disgusting

>> No.25052022

Poggers. Amirite fellow gamerz?

>> No.25052030

>>25051934
because those people doesn't even bother to watch twitch to begin with.

>> No.25052040

>>25051934
because it's shit

>> No.25052057

superman vs goku
no preptime

>> No.25052084

the community is worse. not sure what you expect to hear

>> No.25052109

>>25051934
Fuck off and die twitch faggot. I don't care what point you have to make or what pros your absolutely awful fucking platform might have I WILL never watch your bullshit and I'll anti any chuuba that jumps ship to that platform I dumped Nene, Miko and Botan I will dump the fucking rest too.

>> No.25052223

my oshi streams on youtube and i'm retarded so youtube is better

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>>25051934
>All Twitch chats, Vtuber or not, are now verified-only for some reason

>> No.25052287

>>25052057
Which supes?

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>>25051934
>Why do I see people not giving Twitch vtubers a chance?
Why would people give trash a chance?

>> No.25052371

>>25052287
round 1: post crisis supes vs manga goku
round2: tv/animated supes vs animated movie goku

>> No.25052382

>>25052057
Which Goku?

>> No.25052388

I fucking hate twitch for ruining vidya and now they're ruining my chuubas too. If will truly moved mountains I'd have nuked all of you niggers.

>> No.25052402

>>25051934
Because they're all low effort, they only do reactions to Youtube videos or they play VRchat and expect everyone else to make content for them.

>> No.25052424

>>25051934
easy, most people find Twitch "culture" an eyesore, and they're right
plus they think the platform is hot shit and better than anything else, like they legit believe it's flawless or something

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>>25051934
>Why do I see people not giving Twitch vtubers a chance?
Because people here are retards who think all women who are on twitch are e-thots, ignoring the fact that many of them are no different than vtubers. Seriously, you have Noel on Hololive and others like her and they genuinely think they aren’t e-whores.

>> No.25052465

There's literally nothing wrong with twitch chat. You have LUL KEKW spam, while in YT you have the scuffed LOL LMAO and emote spam you can barely see. YT chat is also worse because it's very slow compared to Twitch chat, especially if you have frankerface enabled.

>> No.25052502

>>25052442
schizo noel anti out of nowhere

>> No.25052509

>>25052382
see>>25052371

>> No.25052571

>>25051934
They're all seaniggers

>> No.25052656

see how much they glorify the chat for some fucking reason when it's the most cancerous square displayed on both sites? what the fuck? is it just unbridled narcissism? is being SEEN by other people despite not being the streamer that important? i fucking close YT chat and it both improves:
>my browser handling that shitshow of coding >my mood by not looking at any of that attentionwhoring on top of attentionwhoring
wait, don't tell me you think your streamer is capable of catching YOUR comment among the thousands of people watching and spamming like monkeys... unless... there's too few people watching them

>> No.25052709

>>25052656
Twitch chat in general is just better, especially for small indies since you have gif emotes and the like. It also doesn't lag out your computer if you're watching someone with 1k+ CCV and the slow mode/mod tools are better than YT

>> No.25052719

>>25051934
>POG POG POG POG
>OMG, YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER?? YOU ARE SOOO BRAVE TRANSRIGHTS!!!
>GUYS AMERICA AND WHITE PEOPLE SUCK HAHAHAHAHA I HATE MY OWN BRETHERN CAUSE IT'S COOL AMIRITE?
>YES I RIPPED PEOPLE OFF AND WAS AN ASSHOLE ONLINE TO OTHERS RECENTLY, WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT INCEL? GOSH YOU'RE SUCH AN INCEL
>LISTEN, MY POLITICaL OPINION IS THAT LEFT/RIGHT WING SUCKS BECAUSE (insert 40 minutes of nonsense being followed by ''i watched a youtube video so i did my research)
>YO LET'S DONATE TO UKRAINE!!! THE FOUNDATION IS WELL KNOWN FOR POCKETING MONEY??? PFFT STFU INCEL
>HI GUYS I CAME HERE TO HAVE FUN! I'M A NEW VTUBER!!! OOPS I SAID PENIS, OMG COOKSIE CLIPPED ME SAYING PENS AND NOW I'M FAMOUS, FUCK IT I'LL BE RAUNCHYA S FUCK MY COOMERINOS, BRING ON THE SMEGMA YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.

Yeah....
And many such cases.

>> No.25052828

>>25052057
Saitama

>> No.25052853

>>25052719
Name a chuuba thats actually said any of this on stream, or anything close, besides the very first one.
I don't give a fuck about yt vs twitch bs but I legitimately want to know if anyone has actually said any of this.

>> No.25052902

It's not that I don't like twitch vtubers, it's that I don't think twitch, it's interface, or the ecosystem.

I don't watch Twitch vtubers because of twitch, not because of the vtubers. If they moved to youtube I'd watch em.

>> No.25052927

I don't shill for either corporation, I watch vtubers on both platforms.

>> No.25053038

>>25051934
twitch is better for the interactions between streamer & viewers, especially those redeemable throwing shits (T.I.T.S) lol

>> No.25053179

>>25052465
>YT chat is also worse because it's very slow
That's the point you fucking inbred

>> No.25053902

>>25051934
Holofags are the most prevalent on this board. Holofags are the most tribalistic. Simple as.

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Regardless of which you think is better, I wouldn't consider either of them good enough to hold over the other.

>> No.25054393

they werent giving them a chance anyway because most of this board only pretends to like vtubers, just gloats about numbers, and thinks watching them takes too much effort

>> No.25054416

>>25052465
what goes on in the head of your average twitch chatter spamming KekW knowing full well they don't register as a fucking blip on anybody's mind. They are nothing, repeating the same thing over 20 seconds thinking they're apart of something. Nobody knows they exist because everyone else in that twitch chat is spamming the same shit trying to catch the attention of the streamer. Why bother?

>> No.25054463

>>25051934
twitch is full of so many autistic groomer faggots lurking on 2views, its honestly disgusting

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What is twitch desuwa ?!

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>> No.25054733

I idle on Youtube, watching random videos if no chuubas I'm subbed to are doing anything interesting. That red icon at the top right is the only step between me and a chuuba's stream. I go to Twitch every once in a while(when nobody is on YT) and leave right away if nobody I already like is on. I browse Twitch like the gif of the guy looking in the fridge and closing it. There's no discovering new chuubas there for me. The only Twitch chuubas I like started out on YT, have clips on YT, or did something related to YT chuubas that got my attention.

I don't enjoy Twitch culture. I like how it feels like YT chat for chuubas are invested and actually enjoy being there instead of just looking for a place to occupy their time. Also, the culture of the chuubas themselves is different. Twitch is dominated by indies while YT is dominated by corpos. That has an effect on how both sides act. Indies stream for themselves and corpos stream for viewers.

It may also be an age thing. I'm only just now downloading Tiktok because of Gura.

>> No.25054905

>>25053179
>>25052709
how the fuck does he/them not get what we're saying?

>> No.25054933

>>25054416
You aren't really describing anything different from YouTube.

>> No.25054992

>>25054933
I'm not defending YouTube chat either. Twitch global emotes are just more braindead. All chat spammers with no aim should neck themselves

>> No.25055037

>>25052442
>Because people here are retards who think all women who are on twitch are e-thots
The vast majority are. I like twitch but the cream is not what rises to the top over there

>> No.25055060

twitch is filled with children and absolute normies

youtube is by no means great but it's a hell of a lot better than twitch (low bar to clear i know)

>> No.25055072

>>25054992
aimless spamming without any influence on the streamer is closer to the japanese experience than retarded westerners backseating

>> No.25055114

>>25054733
>corpos stream for viewers.
NijiEN streams to collab with their friends
HoloEN doesn't stream at all

>> No.25055165

>>25055060
>YouTube
>A significantly bigger platform and audience
>Not normie

>> No.25055206

>>25052709
I have literally never seen a single concurrent minute of twitch chat that wasn't 90% emote spam

>> No.25055226

>>25051934
I can only watch 1 vtuber on twitch in a given month because I only have 1 twitch prime to use. Watching something on twitch requires at least 30 seconds of ads before getting to see anything and random ad insertions during the stream, most of the time are during interesting parts of the stream. I refuse to watch under those conditions so I have dropped twitch even though before this I only watched things on twitch.

>> No.25055231

>>25051934
- I Hate tts voice overlapping what the streamer has to say
- I hate twitch lingo
- I Hate streamers that spam the ad button of some B tier movie that last almost 1 minute
- I hate how the bigger streamers rule the place and one react video can ruin the chat or cause some fanbase drama

>> No.25055275

>>25052853
>POG POG POG POG
Every single one of them
>OMG, YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER?? YOU ARE SOOO BRAVE TRANSRIGHTS!!!
Bungotaiga, Ironmouse, Froot, Lunathemagikarp, X1daringVtuber
>YES I RIPPED PEOPLE OFF AND WAS AN ASSHOLE ONLINE TO OTHERS RECENTLY, WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT INCEL? GOSH YOU'RE SUCH AN INCEL
Saurei, bunnygif, froot, apparently bahroo,
>LISTEN, MY POLITICaL OPINION IS THAT LEFT/RIGHT WING SUCKS BECAUSE (insert 40 minutes of nonsense being followed by ''i watched a youtube video so i did my research)
Nina PL, snuffy.
>GUYS AMERICA AND WHITE PEOPLE SUCK HAHAHAHAHA I HATE MY OWN BRETHERN CAUSE IT'S COOL AMIRITE?
Almost every vtuber on twitch hate themselves for being white anon
>YO LET'S DONATE TO UKRAINE!!! THE FOUNDATION IS WELL KNOWN FOR POCKETING MONEY??? PFFT STFU INCEL
Vshojo+
>>HI GUYS I CAME HERE TO HAVE FUN! I'M A NEW VTUBER!!! OOPS I SAID PENIS, OMG COOKSIE CLIPPED ME SAYING PENS AND NOW I'M FAMOUS, FUCK IT I'LL BE RAUNCHYA S FUCK MY COOMERINOS, BRING ON THE SMEGMA YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.
Just check cooksie.

>> No.25055293

>>25051934
Dont care for twitch mainly because
>didn't catch the stream live? Ok fuck you lol whats VODs?

>> No.25055379

>>25055275
Just watch girl_dm. She meets none of those issues you mentioned.

>> No.25055383

Twitch is a place to watch indie, not popular streamers.
unicorns of twitch comments section are too annoying.

>> No.25055432

>>25051934
You know how people can believe stuff and because of that you'll never give them a chance? It's the same with what you believe in. By the way pay your talents, twitch marketer.

>> No.25055447

>>25052719
>>25052853
half of these was coco's schtick lmoa
The other half holoEN is guilty of. There are differences in twitch/youtube but these aren't it

>> No.25055532

>>25055447
Holy newfag, go back.

>> No.25055591

(You)

>> No.25055627

>>25055532
this isn't hologlobal where you can just spout schizo garbage without resistance bro

>> No.25055648

>>25051934
Twitch is too much effort

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>>25055275
I kneel reps anon....

>> No.25055694

>>25055379
I already watch the dumb shark and have stuff to do so i'm not in need even with ehr inconsistency, but maybe on a lazy day i can check her out, thanks anon.

>> No.25055726

>>25051934
I don't like how Twitch deletes older uploads. I think that's really shitty.

>> No.25055907

>>25055627
Everything can be fucking googled anon, you can't just be this fucking lazy... damn amerimutts.

>> No.25056011

>>25051934
Twitch is a garbage site that doesn't work.
YouTube is a garbage site that barely works.
The choice is obvious.

>> No.25056307

>>25051934
get rid of the twitch users and i'll give it another chance

>> No.25056342

>>25051934
i close chat so i dont care if it is on youtube or twitch. However fuck any streamer (so most of them on twitch and the few i found on youtube with donation sounds) that has 200 loud ass sounds for anything from constant fart sounds to yelling to subbing and tts.
it can be fun for a bit but it quickly turns annoying for me.
also vods on twitch suck

>> No.25056572

>>25051934
I hate bezos. Remove hot tub stream, put chat on cooldown, and fix twitch app for phone

>> No.25056627

>>25055206
Then you probably watched the wrong streamers like xQc. Some of the top streamers chat isn't even that bad like Cohh. And the Indies I've watch that range from 20-500 CCV barely has any emote spam and it's mostly just us talking with the streamer.

>> No.25056653

My 2view project uses both. It's not that big of a deal till they get larger and the twitch community expects you to have 400 extensions.

>> No.25056901

In time, you will all kneel to Lord Bezos.

>> No.25057098

>>25051934
I can rewatch karaoke from half a year ago on youtube when my oshi isn't streaming, you can't do that on twitch.

>> No.25057327

Didn't twitch ban a streamer for misgendering a character in a video game a while back?

>> No.25058650

>>25052502
It’s the truth.

>> No.25058690

I give them a chance. Just not English speaking ones.

>> No.25059615

>>25051934
Speak for yourself?

>> No.25059907

>>25051934
My issue with twitch vtubers is actually not the vtubers but the community they belong to which is the egocentric dudebro "twitch community" as a whole. Something about it just reeks of a fraternity and I don't get that vibes from youtubers.

>> No.25060279

People just sniff their own farts and the crayon fumes in it rise to people's heads and they say things that literally just aren't true in order to feel like they are correct. Even though the mental gymnastics they are doing show that they have no reason to believe they are right.

>> No.25060517

>>25051934
Youtube is /jp/, twitch is /v/, and 4chan is high school.

Yeah, apparently streaming services is enough to promote tribalism in some of you monkeys.

>> No.25060573

>>25060517
How brown is your skin?

>> No.25060752

>>25059907
>dudebro
yikes. Imagine that being the problem, unless you mean dudebro niggers and trannies?

>> No.25060794

>58 IPs
>they're all holobronies
typical /vt/

>> No.25060816

>>25051934
There are different viewers culture between youtube and twitch which most of the time will lead to different type of vtuber. I'm not going to write a whole essay here so basically the hype culture of twitch is obnoxious and the company is actively encouraging it.

>> No.25060834

>>25051934
I don't use twitch therefore I don't watch a "virtual youtuber" streaming on twitch, simple as that.

>> No.25060876

>>25051934
Honestly, twitch is low effort. Most oldfags have seen content creators become complacent and fall off or stagnate after moving to twitch.

>> No.25060989

>>25060816
There is no reason to hate Twitch that isn't 110% hype culture. You are literally promoting hype culture right now, anon.

>> No.25061119

>>25060794
They only watch Hololive, not vtubers.

>> No.25061134

>>25051934
Twitch
>50% cut
>Shit-tier moderation with politic-affiliated
>Toxic user culture
>Hard to use User Interface
>No Vod saved more than certain date

Youtube
>30% cut
>Full-AI moderation
>Pajeet tier customer services
>Full of Bot and Algorithm Boosting
>Flip-Flop rules and guideline

It's just "choose your own poison" anon.

>> No.25061202

they are called virtual youtubers not virtual twitch thots
also, when i go to the vtuber tag, all i see are flesh streamers
i do watch jingburger on there occasionally though

>> No.25061218

If the streamer was good enough I'd put up with Twitch's bullshit so I could watch. Lumi for instance streamed that new Dune RTS on Twitch and I tuned in for that.

Twitch VODs fucking suck though. Mercifully chat is usually not on screen but a whole lot of overlay /. notification bullshit is. It's not isolated to Twitch either, holoID does donation notifications too

I personally want to hang whoever thought TTS donations were a good idea

>> No.25061226

>>25051934
Twitch has plenty of good indies but the popular vtubers (vshojo and their leeches) make people avoid the platform entirely

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>>25060989
I know you did this on purpose but at least try harder next time

>> No.25061591

>>25061226
Name a few anon, i'm curious.

>> No.25061633

>>25061119
This this this
Most people in this thread and in global would be surprised to learn that the majority of Korean vtubing is done on Twitch rather than YouTube, at least between those two sites.

>> No.25061743

>>25051934
I dont like twitch since it reminds me of the hellscape that was niconico

>> No.25061778

>>25061372
nice argument, ass-hat

>> No.25061777

>>25061633
Holy fuck, chill with the excitement sis.

>> No.25061886

i only use twitch to watch art streams

>> No.25062053

>>25061134
This pretty much.
What boggles me most is that you also can't swear and shittalk on Youtube if you want to stay monetized, meanwhile you can talk shit all you want on Twitch as long, as you avoid being racist or heavily political.

>> No.25062190

>>25062053
>Haasan used every slur possible for white people on stream and is a heavy political streamer
Try again with tiwtch.

>> No.25062301

>>25062190
>implying you can be racist to white poeple
holobronies with their hardon with youtube are retarded
racism = power+prejudice

>> No.25062306

>>25062190
Completely missing that posters point. Their point is that you aren't as limited in what you say since they won't demonitize you just through the bot picking it up.

>> No.25062556 [DELETED] 

>>25051934
You are on Twitch?
YOU ARE NOT A VTUBER, PERIOD
TWITCH BELONGS TO >>>/trash/
Go and stay there

>> No.25062651

>>25051934
You forgot your pog or pepega or w/e the fuck the shit fucking gay homo trwitch humor you fucking follow uses now a days

>> No.25062769

>>25062301
>No mention of hololive
>H-holobronies
Holy mother of rent free batman, I don't hate twitch nor youtube and you clearly don't know what racism is.

>> No.25062867

>>25062301
>t. Nigger

>> No.25062928

>>25062306
>Completely missing that posters point. Their point is that you aren't as limited in what you say since they won't demonitize you just through the bot picking it up.
>''meanwhile you can talk shit all you want on Twitch as long, as you avoid being racist or heavily political.''
>''talk shit all you want on Twitch as long, as you avoid being racist or heavily political.''
>''as long, as you avoid being racist or heavily political.''
>''avoid being racist or heavily political.''
I suggest some slim frame glasses, they look pretty good on almost anyone.

>> No.25063035

>>25061372
>le reddit triangle
Is this bait?

>> No.25063200

>>25062190
Don't you know anon. Politics is just "let me be racist on your platform" Youtube doesn't care even though they'll pretend to. Twitch does.

>> No.25063267

>>25052656
Not to detract from most of your point but a few i watch who have a usual following of 3k - 7k+ still read my gray name comment out basically every stream. Get a better name i guess? The attention whoring is horrible on both platforms either way

>> No.25063275

>>25062190
Hasan is breadtuber lackey, so he can get away with almost whatever.
My point is that Twitch doesn't really demonize you for sailor mouth, meanwhile Youtube is basically ran by bots and is extremely trigger friendly. Your videos monetization can go down the drain if you accidentally sperg out and say profanity.

>> No.25063324

>>25062301
systematic racism isn't the same thing as personal racism retard

>> No.25063364

>>25060752
I'm talking about the fart sniffing, gfuel drinking
losers that make up 90% of the Twitch platform

>> No.25063367

>>25063275
remember the cam whore who spread her vag in her stream and got a 3 day ban? hahahaa

>> No.25063427

>>25051934
In actual honesty it's probably because of many different reasons, but here's some
>Vshojo poisoned the waterhole and now their spawn are all over Twitch instead of Youtube, being whores and generally unwatchable trash
>Twitch culture encourages react content, where a chuuba doesn't even play games (a very bare minimum for a lot of people) and just watches videos on the internet, sometimes only the ones people send in which is extra lazy
>Twitch is VERY gay and retarded, to the point they added tags to help you find gays etc. and it facilitates a TON of their kind to shit up the place, further exacerbated by the likes of Vshojo attracting their kind
>Twitch culture also promotes drama to a degree as everyone is more "social" with one another, bringing up other creators all the time which potentially leads to dumb drama, combine this with twittards and you get double drama, hence why you've got so much of it in the indie space
>Their humor is very internet-y, they hear something funny and repeat it like apes for ages far beyond the point it loses its luster. See pog and the like. The funniest people on the platform are original with their humor, they don't repeat others jokes or phrases.
>It's chat culture is also terrible, where chatters say things like "the streamer doesn't owe you anything" and generally advocate for more than they should, enabling assholes and scammers to stick around far more than they should and you get attacked if you dislike them.
>Twitch has easier and more profitable monetization, and while you can easily say that's a good thing, it also attracts grifters because that's the route that gets them more money quicker. Youtube isn't as good as twitch in this regard, so it's more likely a Vtuber on actual Youtube is in it for the actual hobby and not the money. Applies far less if the Chuuba refuses monetization on Twitch and streams on both, so mention that and a decent amount of anons might second guess.
>Twitch's rules are retarded and almost entirely dependent on whether you're one of the biggest streamers (who can break the rules if they want and not be punished) or if a site mod likes (good) or dislikes (they'll just ban you lol) you. Youtube's rules are enforced by an unfeeling algo, and if you learn to avoid the things it autistically hates, you can more or less remain untouched unless you get very unlucky.
>Twitch can act up for a lot of people due to how shoddily some of the site is made. Same for Youtube but it's been around longer so people are used to it.
>Twitch culture (this one affects a lot of shit) usually has people put loud TTS, obnoxious graphics, or just a loud annoying sound whenever someone donates/subs etc. It's very tiring for some people.
>Twitch has a reputation now for whores, such as the hot tub streams, bikini streams, body painting streams, and many of their top preforming women talents all constantly show such behaviour.
>Vods still suck.
>Mentioned it previously, but it's important enough to a lot of anons to mention it in more certain terms. Twitch is HEAVILY political, as well as very biased towards the left wing, to the point if I try to watch a vtuber on there sometimes there's just a load of trans flags in chat with political messages.
>Emotes can be used universally across the site, so again you can in fact just get political shit in there even if the chuuba is smart and doesn't make those kinds of emotes, which will then put them in a position where they leave them up, allowing them to shit up the chat, or ban them under something like a "no politics" rule, and risk the ire of most of the site branding them an -ist.
Youtube is still shit, but it's a familiar shit with less obvious yet still present bias. Twitch is better for some things such as monetization and such for the creator, but does little to combat the things that make it worse such as the politics and trash site mods, making it better for the streamer if they can stomach it but almost universally worse for the viewer. I think I repeated myself a couple times in there, but I'm sure it's fine.

>> No.25063432

>>25052902

>> No.25063469

>>25062928
You're narrowing in on a single thing and can't refute anything else because you agree with how lenient Twitch is towards cursing compared to YouTube?

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>>25063427

>> No.25063560

>>25063427
This post is dumb as fuck and if you're so easily triggered by a 32x32 picture of a flag that nobody has to respond to then maybe you're being overly sensitive.

>> No.25063568

>>25051934
Because twitch is garbage. Unless the content migrates over to youtube in some fashion, I just consider shit happening on twitch may as well be falling into a black hole. Not even my oshi doing occasional twitch streams is enough to get me to go there. I will never, ever watch a streamer who mostly streams on twitch. Make no mistake, youtube is fucking awful too, but it's a flavor of awful that I hate less.

>> No.25063597 [DELETED] 

>Twitch....LE BAD
>*Holobrony waifu does a stream on Twitch*
>I FUCKING LOVE THE HECKIN TWITCH WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

>> No.25063612

>>25063427
Twitch has all of those issues but also advantages.
It's less retarded when it comes to copyright for starters, vtubers get away with more karaoke or unauthorized games there.
React content is subjective, it helps add variety to a vtuber's content but if overused it can hurt the channel.

>> No.25063623

>>25063542
everything about the shithole is insufferable

>> No.25063639

>>25063427
>sees a rectangle with a blue, white, and pink line
>literally go into a meltdown and start shaking and crying
This is what you sound like.

>> No.25063672

>>25051934
>/vt/ - Virtual YouTubers
>YouTubers
Wow I wonder why people here hate Twitch streamers.

>> No.25063673

>>25061134
Both are shit but youtube is less shit.

>> No.25063706

>Thing I'm familiar with = Good
>Thing I don't know = Bad

>> No.25063720

>>25063427
>Youtube's rules are enforced by an algo
>This is presented as a good thing
Did you just miss the recent "automated bans because people spam vulgar messages" arc at Youtube? Holos and Nijis are able to get through that just fine, but with the shit tier customer service imagine being a small streamer who gets hit with that.

>> No.25063734

>>25063612
React content is about the streamer themselves. You can find plenty of streamers that don't rely on it, and probably do it once every two months, or haven't even dipped into it at all. It's pretty easy, don't like react content then scroll past it.

>> No.25063804

>>25063427
The fucking based department is clearly open at all hours

>> No.25063955

>>25063427
Based. The other replies are clearly proof we're being raided by discord-trannies again

>> No.25064115

chaturbate is unironically better

>> No.25064177

>>25063612
>It's less retarded when it comes to copyright
Yeah that's fair.
>React content
I don't think anyone really cares if they do it sometimes, they mostly only talk about it if it's something they do constantly. I wouldn't mind it myself if they did it when they got sick or something to take it easy and not push themselves, it would be a nice change of pace, like a comfy stream. That said I also think it's somewhat about some anons just being bitter a good youtuber fell back onto over relying on it after going to Twitch, I often see them talk about that moistcritical guy that way for instance.
>>25063639
>>25063560
I don't get triggered or angry, just feel disappointed so many of them can't manage their quality properly and close the stream. Hell, I can't even remember who it was I last looked at that was like that. They might be more memorable if it wasn't such a constant problem across the site.
>>25063720
It was a good thing until people (the French aren't actually people but I'll use it for posterity) figured out a way to weaponize it, until then it was an ass of a thing but you could at least dodge around it if you knew how, pissing off one of the twitch mods with 'tism and a load of spare time to harass you if you upset them has been a more consistent issue over time, but I will again agree that both Twitch and Youtube are shit.

>> No.25064322

>>25063597
forgetting about all the people who cry when any of the holo girls even talk about twitch?

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>>25064177
>I don't get triggered
>I just close the stream when I see it

>> No.25064472

until they fix the shit with the vtuber tag being abused youtube will still be better by a small margin

>> No.25064559

>>25063706
This in a nutshell.
Twitch has this feature (not saying it's good or bad) where the creator and the mods completely dictate the tone of the channel. Some communities foster a pretty toxic atmosphere. Other fairly sizable communities are so non-toxic that you might be deluded into thinking that twitch is one of the least toxic places on the internet if you only watched their stuff.

Are there some really fucking stupid communities? Yeah.
But there are plenty of the opposite. There also are plenty of toxic fucks on youtube.
When it comes to approaches on moderation, I do appreciate that Youtube tries to be more neutral in its moderation,
but I also appreciate that Twitch allows for more leeway in saying SHIT FUCK BULLSHIT SON Of A BITCH ASSHOLE DOUCHEBACK MOTHERFUCKER COCK DICK PUSSY if that's your kind of content.

>>25063720
Automated moderation is better in the sense that it's really cheap for the company and creates a more uniform moderation policy, but man, some of the things that occasionally get moderated are funny as fuck. There was plenty of outcry towards improving the automated moderation in the chess community at some point. A lot fairly inert discussions about what white and black are going to do got continually flagged as hate speech. I think that the problem is not completely fixed either.

>> No.25064676

>>25063720
I'll take a cold algorithm that's designed purely to maximize revenue making decisions over an emotional biased retarded human. An unbiased and reasonable human would be best but I don't think Twitch has any of those.

>> No.25064881

My favorite part about twitch vtubers was when they added those tags so people could tag those streams and immediately after some people found a way around twitch moderation so they could harass people. It ended up with a bunch of them going and trying some "walk out" because they kept getting harassed and probably in no small part because they'd literally tag their streams with their mental illnesses. It's like handing a bully a list of things you're sensitive about and thinking they wouldn't laugh at you for them. It ended up with a fucking furry vtuber doing an interview about it or some shit of fox news or whatever. Summed them up perfectly for me.

>> No.25065649

is always strange when people on 4chan say that "twitch culture" is strange while in reality is very similiar to 4chan, just more filtered, and the lefty tranny thing depends a lot on the streamer+ you can't say some things like in every other social

>> No.25065788

>>25052656
why are you even watching a stream if you don't want to interact with the streamers or see what other people think? At that point just watch vods

>> No.25065944

>>25065788
do you only watch streams to prove you exist?

>> No.25066015

idk, whenever I look at twitch UI is pure garbage and hard to navigate, veoh and dailymotion is infinitely better

>> No.25066086

>>25051934
I find Twitch has an actual community compared to youtube.

>> No.25066601

>>25065944
like I said if you watch a stream and you have the possibility to interact then you do it, the entertainment is not just the streamer, but the chat too,they both make the entertainment even more so if you are in "just chatting" or youtube equivalent or commenting a video or a fact, is normal if you are watching a karaoke stream you don't really interact tho

>> No.25066912

>>25051934
people act like twitch hasn't been the one livestream platform for like
the last 10 years

>> No.25067081

It seems like people here only look at the top shitters of twitch like xQc, Asmon, Hassan and generalize the streamers there. Just because the top dogs are react streamers 90% of the time doesn’t mean they’re all like that. I barely see any chuuba do that and most of them are just the same as youtube vtubers. Having a schedule, playing a game, and doing art streams.

>> No.25067683

I'm old. Twitch is too complicated.

>> No.25068031

>>25067081
I do find it kind of ironic that people watching vtubers of all people are this narrow-minded

>> No.25068355

>>25051934
twitch culture (as in streamer culture, not fanbase/chat culture) is cringe as fuck. cliques control a lot of what goes on so you end up having to suck up to one of them just to not get constantly harassed, either by their fans or by their streamer-friends shit-talking you or trying to cancel you. who you decide to raid when you finish streaming can cause drama, not putting someone on your host list can cause drama etc.... it's literally just highschool drama all over again. youtube avoids this by being so big that you can't really form a single "youtube community", with twitch you kind of have to adopt theirs.

>> No.25068399

>>25067683
This is unironically one of the better and understandable takes.
You have to get into the emotes, the memes, the lingo et cetera.
It's not something you do by just watching one good content creator.

>> No.25071130

>>25055275
>Almost every vtuber on twitch hate themselves for being white anon
Then you won't have any trouble providing an example.

>> No.25071161

>>25063612
The unauthorized games isn't a youtube issue, it's a licensing issue, particularly related to corporate vtubers, it doesn't really affect indies.

the karaoke thing is because of youtube's ai

>> No.25071301

>>25067081
Nigger I watch people stream fucking BADUK on twitch and its cancerous as shit if twitch "culture" is able to effect content that fucking obscure then chuubas are definitely affected

>> No.25071306

>>25051934
Twitch is fucking cancer.
The people, the features, everything about it fucking sucks.

>> No.25071500

>>25063612
>It's less retarded when it comes to copyright for starters
By the way let me mute ten fucking minutes of your streams audio for 2 seconds of a song in a video game that was 100% okay for you to stream
>Meanwhile on YouTube
Here is a lyric music video by a popular band that's been uploaded by QueefEater1987 that has over a million fucking views also let me suggest a bunch more because fuck it.

>> No.25071746

Twitch is garbage. There's constantly shit interrupting the stream, those retarded flying emotes and sounds are incredibly annoying and distracting.

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>>25051934
>start streaming
>/vt/ screams to use Twitch and gives me shit for using youtube
>everyone is saying Twitch is shit and to use youtube

>> No.25071953

>>25071746
the entire website looks like a fucking las vegas casino, with all kinds of flashing lights and blinking scrolling shit everywhere. it gives the impression that their head of product is a fucking schizophrenic or something. youtube has been getting worse but it's still about ten years away from becoming half as much a sensory-jamming eyesore as twitch is.

>> No.25072446

>>25071928
Use both

>> No.25073574

>>25064428
>i watch thing i don't like
honestly you sound like the retard here

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>>25051934

>> No.25074541

>>25074471
I’m gonna Grooooooom

>> No.25074584

>>25063427
based

>> No.25075280

>>25054501
it's a character from game called league of legends

>> No.25075424

>>25051934
Here are some good twitch vtubers
https://www.twitch.tv/team/hololive

>> No.25075445

>>25051934
I work alot and I listen to vtubers on the youtube app with my phone in my pocket. If twitch makes an app that works with the screen locked and won't kill my battery I'd listen to twitch vtubers more.

>> No.25075490

>>25066086
And that's a bad thing.

>> No.25078958

>>25075490
Why?

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