/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Leave Hololive to us

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
VShojo x 774 inc. when?
VShojo x Re:Act when?
VShojo x VOMS when?
VShojo x NoriPro when?
VShojo x PinkPunkPro when?
VShojo x Uto when?
VShojo x Polygon_Project when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Kaede does so much work. Mito too. Fucking Rin stop being a bum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
>three out of four of the Vshojo are some variety of demon (yes I know Froot's a lich, no that doesn't count)
What's with the West's obsession with demon girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464687
Succubus are hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464687
>The west
I don't think that's an exclusive western obsession, there's plenty of anime series that feature demon girls (and occult/demonic stuff in general) pretty prominently. Even hololive is like 1/3 demon/supernatural girls with the others being split between animal girls and (semi)humans

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464687
because Biden is an incarnation of evil

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464874
Shuba...
Haachama...
Watson...
Aqua...
Homos...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Anon, Holos and Nijis would at least form a temporary alliance if all wvtfags could be removed from the board guaranteed. You are the problem not the solution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
>third time faggot OP tries to stir up shit the same way
You never learn do you

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464687
Vshojo is more obsessed with horns that devils.

Zen
Vei
IronMouse
Froot
Hime (screw horns)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465942
than*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465883
This is my first time though

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji
>No Hololive
huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465996
NijiEN is coming soon. HoloEn is declining while Vshojo is is inclining. Ichikara is not going to waste their time with Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465996
Among Us is a shittily programmed game with a hard player count limit outside of mods that make it glitchy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466206
What's that got to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465109
Literally stolen!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466243
Why they aren't getting tons of people from different agencies involved.

[Anonymous No.]

How are Nijikeks coping with this i thought they were the biggest gatekeepers on here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464687
>the West's
Japan literally has a TWO goddamn group of demon girls you fucking dick sucker

and yes I actually like 774 but you're a absolute fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465942
>7 out of 8 all have head protrusions
>The only one without is also the only one worth watching
Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465996
Why invite Gura when she's just going to rage when she gets killed and sent retards to harass her colleagues

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466323
That was the most embarrassing collab for EN ever really. Using deception in a game about deception is fair play and Gura really needed not to take herself so seriously even if it was frustrating for her due to the language barrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>Leave this on the table despite Coco, Polka, Okayu, and now most of the HoloEN crew asking for a collab
>Now Niji is picking this up and getting a fuck ton of attention which will convert into $
Okay Yagoo we get it, being OVERTLY Sexual isn't as fun as "Subtle" sexual like your JP girls. Hope your lost revenue compensates your supposed moral code

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
As long as Vshojo exists on twitch it will always be a inferior product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466386
Problem was the ID girls agreed to be intermediaries for the language barrier, but almost immedately dropped it in favor of singling gura out, since her tilt was the funniest. Ame even fanned the flames by just constantly saying "Gura sus"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466263
So you're saying it's just a matter of slots? What I think it is was hololive's management having a stick up their butts as usual.
There's niji, animare, .live and Ai-chan on JP side, but EN is just vshojo. Also iirc the maximum number of slots for among us is 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466445
The biggest streamers are on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Awful take. Platform wars have nothing to do with vshojo being garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466468
Okay? Since when did size = quality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466475
Not really, with YouTube you're being shit on by an computer AI algorithm.
With Twitch when you're banned you're banned by a human who determines your fate by their own morals.
Now tell me that YouTube is so evil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466481
Anything else is subjective. If we are being objective staying on twitch is better than being on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466514
Heh yeah, just wait until Vshojo gets overlooked by twitch's actual corporate staff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466323
>implying Gura would even answer to any 2nd hand twitch whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466537
Youtube has susan

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466481
It's the LoL argument, to which they argue a larger audience is drawn because there is more to offer, which can only be if the quality is of equal or better value

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466548
Susan is worth half a billion dollars and doesn't give a shit about anime girl streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466574
What makes you think Bezos cares?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464454
please understand, she just wants to grind FFXIV 12 hours a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466584
Jeff Bezos isn't CEO anymore number one slowpoke chammers and number two Twitch has always been out of Amazon's shadow and under their own independent control. Amazon bought them to integrate their garbage into the platform.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466539
Big words from dollar store nyanners

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465996
They're probably streaming on bibibi too or whatever that chinese site is called, that's why there's no Hololive members. I know that Kizuna AI loves Lamy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466616
>Dollar store nyanners
>>Bigger than nyanners
>>Less hated than Nyanners
>>Has more appeal than Nyanners
Not exactly bargain Nyanners is she with this old bait?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466645
this. nyangers are fucking delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466616
>Nyanners seething over szawa success
>She disappears for a bit
>Re-emerges as Gura with even more popularity
NYANNERS BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466645
>Bigger than nyanners
Not for long, reclining at an absurd rate
>Less hated than Nyanners
No other place but this shithole hate nyanners
>Has more appeal than Nyanners
Not really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466694
>Not really
yeah i'm sure hearing nyanners squeel over mishearing the word cum for 5 minutes will reach a global audience on a grand scale

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466645
In this scenario, Nyanners is the dollar store varient
>Has less followers than Gura
>Has less followers than Gura's previous life
>Losing ground already because her endgame is "get more Vshojo players and more followers" without adding anything to the mix
>Doesn't even do large scale collabs, just has her same 4-5 people join her chat and they play a game
DESU Nyanners would gain more ground if she left VShojo and focused on herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466418
The fact an anti is arguing that Hololive is high brow entertainment compared to other companies is itself hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

TICK TOCK SHARKFAGS

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466694
>No other place but this shithole hate nyanners
The opinions of normalfags are not to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466743
Shark's never cared about her numbers and has always in a way felt bad about her success. Only you faggots do because you think vtubing is a sport like the retards you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466746
They should be, after all they are the majority, you know the ones that actually donate and watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466693
>unionize with actual whores to compete with the blue autist new form
>escape to twitch because you know you can't actually do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Everyone united against Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466743
>barely above codemiko
jesus the recline

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Kizuna Ai is a big fan of Yukihana Lamu

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466774
>Everyone
Yeah I'm sure Vshojo hates Hololive talent as they consistently tweet at Ollie, the Chicken, and Mori everyday daily

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that kiara will leave as soon as her contract ends. Hololive is a sinking ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466539
>>2466616
>>2466645
>>2466694
>>2466707
You are all children arguing who is king of the sandbox in fanbases made specifically for kids. The perfect example of why ENfags and vshojofags are no different at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466726
i was delusional once. Then i started recalling all the clips are of the JP girls from Holo being lewd, and i asked myself how this was any different than Ironmouse and Nyanners going on about similarly raunchy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466821
if Chicken left Hololive EN would flourish though
So your post is incredibly ironic

[Anonymous No.]

They just got who-tier'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466825
NUMBER

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466825
Great retort, i see that logic and facts have whittled your balsawood-esque argument to this

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive has a strange relationship with Kizuna Ai Corp. They acknowledge each other time to time and Kizuna herself even acknowledges individual talents but for the most part they stay in their own lanes.
It might have to do with the fact Kizuna Corp. may be a chink entity for the most part still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466826
The difference is between a funny female comedian and listening to Amy Schumer. You are the Schumer fan here btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466825
Why are you on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466825
yeah, because tribalism wasn't a thing before them

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465996
AI has deals with bilibili, you're never going to see her attached with hololive in any official capacity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466872
>a funny female comedian
i love that you leave it to us to fill in this gap

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466865
It was the same when Hololive was head deap into China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466872
>hologra with a girl drinking matsuri's piss
>haha it's different because it's japanese
Contrarians all day up in the Holohut i see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnruFkwWZDU

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466945
I wonder if Kizuna even knows who Polka and Korone even are/were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466956
>>haha it's different because it's japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466969
she'd be nothing short of negligent to not know at least Korone
now if you said Shion, Watame, Choco, or Roberu, then yea. she's in her right to not know the literal whos

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467033
I was only mentioning those two because they used to be coworkers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466778
>>2466743
I know this kills your narratives, but she only streamed a little over 51 hours in March.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466445
I mean it is not that surprising that they stream on twitch because it is much bigger here in the west than in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466445
>Meanwhile on Youtube
>Random crashes
>Buffering (in 2021)
>Random bans. both shadow and normal
>Disconnects
>Subs and chats mean nothing
>Randomly delete half your archives
>Banned for your shade of red looking a bit like blood (Marine)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467120
>twitch
>3 day vacation because you described something as retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467086
Twitch has also started gaining ground in Japan recently, with jp streamers getting a few thousands of viewers. So it's only a matter of time before Twitch will take the crown from Youtube as the biggest place to watch vtubers, be they from Japan, USA, Mexico, UK, Germany, wherever the fuck. Except China, nothing is gonna save them from bilibili hellhole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467138
>Youtube
>3 day vacation because you called a country a country

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467067
If that's true, she deserves all this decline. Working on average 12 hours a week is nothing short of disrespectful to your fans and your company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467179
What? No one got banned from Youtube's end for that ya retard
Did you just arrive here and legit drank the kool-aid that the idiots who weren't even watching Vtubers when it happened's narratives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467086
Unless they have a working archiving system on Youtube, this is going to hurt them in the long run.
Twitch deletes the videos after two months, meaning there is no backlog for potential new viewers to learn about the channel, no old content to clip (even if you hate them, those clips drive traffic to channels) and is a very hostile practice to users in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467179
That's not YouTube, that's cover bending the knee when they were still trying to salvage their chinese market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467201
You're free to think of it whatever you want. Just provide the proper comparisons rather than throwing out a single number as if it means anything. She makes everyone on that list look like shit with her number of views per hours streamed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Gizuna AI is sus

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467307
For a livestreamer your live viewer count matters the most

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467354
on Youtube watching a vod is infinitely more accessible than it is on twitch
her VODs of her streams do gangbusters

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
i wish. holos have dominated the scene for long enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466886
Do concerts and TV shows not count as "official capacity?" Because Ai and some of hololive were both at VTuber Fes earlier this year and Siro invited both Ai and some holos to appear on her show later this month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467453
I have to imagine anything that's being streamed onto bilibili will likely not have anyone from hololive featured. I doubt it extends beyond that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467067
its Q1 anon.. not monthly. You can see ash and codemiko in this pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467453

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466539
Fuck i love this little woman no pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
covid buff is over its too late for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467579
Explains why holo is reclining so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467486
Yeah, that's pretty much the only thing that makes sense. Ai keeps tabs on all the big names in the market and the state of the market as a whole like the overseer that she is.

>>2467538
Sartre VTuber when?

[Anonymous No.]

I may not like Ai thanks to the aifag, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
anon, the day hololive dies is the end of the trend, there will be no big replacement, and no other vtuber group/company will reach the level of hype and growth, the holo genere will fall as an old and known niche, remember this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467702
People said the same about the 4 heavenly kings. There will always be something new to replace the old guard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467750
Yeah, if Hololive just disappeared suddenly a year ago that could have kneecapped Vtubing but now?
There are several fairly big EN indies, Vshojo is there, NijiEN is upcoming.
Hololive just disappearing suddenly would be a big hit but the vacuum would be filled quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467750
the 4 heavenly kings never capped the market in japan, nor internationally you can expand it more in hispanic or portuguese countries but there is no money there, you can't compare it, neither nijisanji or hololive can't grow anymore in japan, and internationally the trend span is even shorter, people has started to watch less and less compared to last year, this will end like a touhou or visual novel hobby, just another niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467488
Oh? My mistake then. The actual number would be 159 hours in that case. Which...still makes my point.

[Anonymous No.]

Wouldn’t it be crazy if pekora joined nijisanji instead of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467868
Them leaving Japan would probably be quite impactful but nevertheless JP scene would be fine with Niji and all the indies/other companies.

Same could be said for the western scene, again, they are still the biggest in the west but VShojo has been growing pretty fast and i have no doubt they would be able to replace them.

The only market that i see them being irreplaceable so far is the ID market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467488
>CodeMiko
I wonder how long she’ll be able to balance the “technician”/chuuba dichotomy of her stream. I assume that her gains are based largely around her interviews of the larger streamers, and that kind of content has a shelf life, albeit I could be underestimating how impactful collabs of that nature can be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467972
Her doing technician streams all the time now is what made me drop her. I have no desire for that type of content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466645
she used to be dollar store nyanners and still would be if not for hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467488
Can someone tell me how they're calculating "hours watched"? I assume that's a twitch metric since it's a stream first site, so how does that work on Youtube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Everytime i want to see a ramping retarded whore i tune in to vshojo, trash is sometimes entertaining

Nothing but the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467843
>but the vacuum would be filled quickly
not at all, if we are talking about vtuber idols, then people is invested in their oshis, the same happended with idol groups, in AKB48 once the bigger idols graduated and moved on, the hole business waned, gachikois didn't move to younger idols, they just left to other thingg, gacha, social online games etc... Nowadays the idol business is an empty shell of what it was, so the death of hololive won't happen like a bang, it will be a slow bleed with the members graduating, and no othe group will replace then, so enjoy it while you can.

[Anonymous No.]

god i hope zen is a guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468150
I cannot find many other valid reasons for the tex-to-speech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468178
no it just be funny i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467956
>they would be able to replace them
who? holo EN? because neither of vshojo no matter how sure you are, can recreate the cultural explosion that hololive was with tens of thousands of artist, musician, mixers all constantly creating fanart or the amount of memes like Korone or Pekora and the others inspired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468219
VShojo barely started, i would not be too sure about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
why is Kizuna gracing these lowlifes with her presence? doesn't she have better things to do than collab with actual garbage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468088
She was already far bigger than Nyanners. In fact, Nyanners was completely forgotten until she became a vtuber, a foundation she stands on built by the likes of HER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468150
There is proof of him being a guy, along with his actual voice. Video should be still up on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468295
Shut up slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468253
It's a group of already-established streamers that have been doing their same shtick for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468253
well dreaming is free anon, but i already lived the idol explosion and death, and i know how the vtuber industry will end

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468126
Listen to doog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467702
>the day hololive dies is the end of the trend
only in the west, they were nobody before they become popular in the west and china

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468321
The one I saw on Youtube was a troll by Zentreya itself, do you mean a different one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465654
>Anon, Holos and Nijis would at least form a temporary alliance if all wvtfags could be removed from the board guaranteed
Fuck off, holonigger, we nijichad would rather team up with Whoreshojo than alliance with holoshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467053
Did they ever collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468439
Hoshikawa.... Inui... Debidebi... Sasaki...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468439
Maybe you would be more threatened if Nijisanji had a critical mass of Reddit EOPs just chomping at the bit to turn the entire culture upside down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468088
What are you talking about? She was MUCH bigger than Nyanners ever was. She was even starting to break into the mainstream with shit like the Belle Delphine song. That was until she said fuck it and auditioned for hololive, and then got even bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468439
Why are you LARPing
I can name over 20 times Hololive has appeared on a Nijisanji stream
Honestly you should feel embarrassed by this falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467230
>Unless they have a working archiving system on Youtube
I know Snuffy has stream archive channel which i don't think is official but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468598
>I can name over 20 times Hololive has appeared on a Nijisanji stream
holowhore used to leech of niji until they become popular, now they only collab with popular niji and pretend to forget other unpopular niji they used to leech. Fuck holowhores, fuck cover, ungrateful bitchs

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468676
You know I can destroy your entire narrative by the fact Matsuri collabed with Chigusa before Chigusa ever blew up or people found out about her reincarnation

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468715
I'm not talking about Chigusa

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468757
Debi deburu was never bigger than Korone
Matsuri has always been bigger than Hoshikawa, and Gundou
Choco isn't leeching off anyone shes unironic friends with nijis offline out of character
Your meme sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468781

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
Explain the context for class if youre gonna post a shotty mspaint image

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
wow whatt a bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468676
>Fuck holowhores, fuck cover, ungrateful bitchs
>imagine being a nijinigger, full of bitterness and unhappyness, blaming others because of the lack of talent of their members, and because they are a group of individuals that work in the same company, rather than a group of friends that supports each other. Instead for looking for something else, they are satisfied in their sad mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468715
Chigusa being hero's reincarnation was found out day 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468676
I wish 27 and JK is a thing again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468895
More people in the west knew Hero as "matsuris friend" than japs did. Their collab helped reintroduce them to her again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468297
I actually had to check for myself, and yes this is true.

I picked May 2020, a time when they were both still active, and Senzawa had more subscribers than Nyanners even then.

So saying that Senzawa was just dollar store Nyanners is like saying Oreos is just dollar store Hydrox.

Just because you were first doesn't mean you are better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468857
Any N5 can understand that with minimal trouble
https://note.com/ppoch/n/n94fc22fd7c68
>ホロライブの運営は知名度アップの為に人気がある外部のvtuberと絡む事をアドバイスしている。
She collabed with shiba when she was a low tier holo but ghosted her completely once she started blowing up after the GTA series. Holobitches are soulless and deserve to suffer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2467956
>The only market that i see them being irreplaceable so far is the ID market.

Not even there as Maha5 is bigger with indonesians than HoloID which has more english and jp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468676
Based Hanachad blowing up the Holofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469003
Ok?
That sounds more like an issue on Shiba's part personally. Since when were collabs considered favors that needed to be repaid? Even back in 2019 this wasn't something that was done

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468871
You're a sad faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469003
>Shiba
LITERALLY WHO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
what the fuck shiba is saying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468715
>Matsuri
As expect of holoEOP,she only knows to be Matsuri's "friend" in the west but in reality she is more of buddy with niji, in fact that's the reason she joined niji, the old virtual youtuber already joke about Chigusa being hero even before the debut when they show the art concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469032
You can keep defending your whores, i don't give a fuck. Just don't pretend you know what you are talking about. Do your reps.
>>2469054
A nijisanji member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469070
Nobody watched Hero which is why she joined 2434
Calm down there on your high horse and just be happy shes soaring in popularity

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469083
>nijisanji member
Ok, so it's literally nothing. Miko was right to ghost that sad niji bitch. Fuck off Nijinigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468715
She's also one of the Ensta trio right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469083
Im not the one crying about some 3 tweets probably out of context back in 2019 nijifag. Maybe you should start living in the present and worry about bigger issues like nijis fanbases eating each other alive and forcing shadow retirements

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469128
>out of context
Learn japanese HoloEOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469156
Its 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469156
I pity holoEOP fans, they need to fill up their Vtuber's information with headcanon from rabid fanboy SEAnig translators because they cant into moonrunes

[Anonymous No.]

>>2465942
So is there any reason why they decided to remove every last bits of their soul and make them into samefaced demonlike soulless whores?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469122
Just lurk the old /jp/ virtual youtuber thread, in fact those latenight streams with Kanae, Akabane and Akkun is the most comfiest stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
>仲良くしてた人間が、多忙になった、返事もくれなくなるの さみしい
Holy fuck i feel so bad and i'm not even related to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469083
So Shiba is the kind of person that do things for interest, a give and take relationship? and you are a fan of that kind of people because you project yourself like that right?
Then i'm glad that the collab was the extent of that relationship, both share their viewers and only one of them is not talented, al was paid there and then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469209
Why would anyone give a shit if the vtuber i like is actively trying to learn English? Your mentality is stupid but then again so is Nijisanjis with their "domestic success is the best success" approach they've maintained for 3 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469325
How can one person be so wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
>>2469302
>being friends with someone
>taking their private quarrels out on some shitposting social media platform
yeah totally
pink bad
dog good

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469302
I've experienced this loneliness a lot too Shiba

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469425
lol that's exactly the kind of demanding person i would avoid at all cost, i'm totally sure Miko noticed that dog was an obsessive neurotic schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
Why would Migoti do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469425
>>2469516
t. idolshit whiteknight

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469325
>>2469425
>>2469516
as expect, holofags already jumped on defending mode and blame Shiba for their whore idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469700
Ur favorite company puts on a festival and charges 40 dollars per "segment" to see someones oshi do 1 or 2 songs and play a quiz show with trash filler

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469728
Post your Niji memberships or shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469700
>>2469728
Sure bro, every sane and stable person broadcasts his issues with his friends to the whole world instead of solving them backstage.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop falseflagging as nijifags when youre just a retarded anti schizo with literal shit bait

[Anonymous No.]

>airing dirty laundry on twitter
Isn't that worth you getting fired in Japan? Especially leaking private messages? And you fags ride your high horse with your beginner kanji lessons when the person your defending is going against the very societal morals of Japan?
Not very weeb of you

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>>2469003
>>2468831
>when she was a low tier holo
according to social blade, in that collab in october 2019 Shiba had 67k subs and Miko 77k subs, explain schizo who was leeching who?
at least do your rrats reps correctly

[Anonymous No.]

Holobros we were the leeches all along.... This can’t be happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469889
Good. Hololive must prosper. Hololive must dominate.

[Anonymous No.]

why are they all such whores jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469851
This is not leeching, this is two colleagues that are around the same level helping each other. See how she just straight up ignores shiba once she blows up though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469003
miko has to protect her brand, too. it looks bad if you're going with unprofessional or lower-tier streamers, unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470149
so now is not about leeching? then don't talk about Miko like a low tier if Shiba was even lower.
And why do you asume things? there is always two sides in a story, and is true this >>2469425
you don't shit on social media about your "friends"
and >>2469728 why would anyone side with an obscure unknown vtuber, based on a feeble rrat? that's it i'm out your baits and rrats are weak, no more (you) for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470323
It's not about leeching, it's about them being shitty people.
Also
>Obscure unknown vtuber
The world would be a better place without holofags like yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470350
Careful there, you will hit the wall if you keep moving the goalposts

[Anonymous No.]

lol, didn't know the seethe of nijiniggers was even better than kfp

[Anonymous No.]

>>2469851
>>2470323
>according to social blade, in that collab in october 2019 Shiba had 67k subs and Miko 77k subs, explain schizo who was leeching who?
We need to go with the first collab there (2019/02/07), the the final collab (2019/01/10) is where Mikowhore starting to be more popular than Shiba when she finished leech off Shiba

[Anonymous No.]

Shiba not even 100k subs after 17 months, what a failure and all of 2434 should graduate
seethe harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470485
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no, the clipwatchers are upset because people exposed their whores for what they are, whores.
Maybe you would not need to watch trash like hololive if you just learned japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Shiba even still alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470532
Nijisanji is full of boring streamers

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo is still shit. Sorry :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470532
Based Nijichad, I kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470563
You don't even know what's going on until some random seanigger "translates" it for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470532
I'm not even sure what group you're saying is whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470350
>>2469728
>>2469302
>The world would be a better place without holofags like yourself
you are useless as a fan of Nijisan, instead of helping your favourites vtubers be known or just enjoying it by yourself, you just expose your jealoussy picking fights with others fans and making them hate your own, you are the very definition of a toxic fandom

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>>2470720

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>>2470720
>instead of helping your favourites vtubers be known
why would i? those holoniggers are more better to live inside their own holo bubble, ironic weebs are cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470720
Because holofags do none of that rrrrright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470954
what up morons?

[Anonymous No.]

Based nijichads dabbing on holochuds

[Anonymous No.]

jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470832
>holo bubble

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>>2466310
HoneyStrap is a pre-made group with designs that were designed beforehand meant to fit a theme.
Vshojo is a bunch of people who in some cases had literally no relation to the others prior to joining, AND all had design's predating the groups existence. Surely you can rub two braincells together and see how the two scenarios are different, yes?

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>>2466096
I want the same drugs vtrannies take

[Anonymous No.]

>third thread about this consolewar bullshit
You're really desperate for attention, right? Well, it's obviously working, since the retards here will spread it all over the place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464687
>What's the deal with societal leeches having demon avatars
Freudian slip

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>>2468831
What's with Nijis resorting to harassment and using bully tactics so often? Is there some sort of bully culture being promoted within their company that I'm not aware of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2474059
>Is there some sort of bully culture being promoted within their company
Actually, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2474059
The shiba's on "break" now and will debut a human form btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
This is why the bigger vtubers from holo and niji, and especially their managers, are so wary of collabing with other vtubers who are much smaller than them. You do one or two collabs with them and then suddenly they think they are your close friends, try to brag about it and even try to pressure for more.

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>>2474059
yes, niji fans are fucking toxic as hell, and they take after nijisanji in that respect.

Literally harassing vtubers irl is their shtick. Wish ichikara was forced to pay compensation for that bullshit.

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>>2474059
She was in the right though.

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>>2474059
Give 2434 examples or it doesnt count.

[Anonymous No.]

>Haneru
If this leads more eigo streams from Rene, inject it into my veins.

[Anonymous No.]

Wiki activity

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>>2466272
/jp/ is on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>2477146
They all moved on to 774 inc now

[Anonymous No.]

>>2477146
>>2477203
They were all waiting for a chance to jump ship after NijiEN audition announcement anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2477203
774 is in this collab though

[Anonymous No.]

>>2477245
wait until 774 opens an EN branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466272
Only 1 Niji is in the collab and its Deron and not Mito.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468101
probably a mix of vods time and peak viewership.
Don dwell on it too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2477203
I'm on vspo months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466956
>haha it's different because it's japanese
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466956
That's girl isn'teven in Hololive, anon. And that's quite normal stuff for Eilene

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>>2470609
Damn son all I said was nijis are boring and you pull out the eop projection. Says more about you than me. Hope Roa never returns and Mikoto gets attacked in the street by some random fujoshi since its about as good as nijifans deserve for being cunts

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>>2474059
>I wish this person I used to be friends with didn't ignore me
>harassment and bully tactic
Do holoshitters really? Fuck your bitch for ignoring the cute doggo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2480953
lets be real, how high is someone's ceiling for their avatar being an actual dog

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>>2464330
I legit don't get why they use those shitty drawing for some of the V-shojo girls, when they avatars looks way, WAY better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2484352
ye having nyanners' official banner art be generic cutesy animu girl instead of the gremlin avatar looks weird as shit

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>>2480953
>Miko goes on to become one of the biggest vtubers in the world
>nobody knows who this shitty dog is
Miko made the right decison. She saw the dog had no hope and had to cut the dead weight from her associates circle while she rose to stardom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2484508
It doesn't even looks like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2480425
I'm just telling the truth. Have fun with your doggo clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2480953
no gives a shit about your literally who

[Anonymous No.]

>>2484352
they are stupid beyond salvation, thats why

[Anonymous No.]

their plaform's twitch it mean more safer than youtube with alot of shitty rule, bless twich fuk youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>2474059
their unironically make discord groups to harras other chuubas, they are literally cancer and deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.]

I still can't belive Nyanners wormed her way back into the weebsphere after all the shit she pulled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470485
anon can you stop being so based?

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>>2484534
That still makes her a cunt and you a simp loser for defending her though. She leeched the doggo when it was convenient for her.

>>2485532
It's not about the streamer in question, it's about your idolshit whore being a cunt to other people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468676
this is pretty much true. Only the ID branch and generations up to 2 really ever collab outside of Hololive anymore, and that's rarely. They propped your asses up be grateful fuckers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2485711
yeah and with that kind of momentum too. its staggering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2485735
>begging to leech
this is new low for beggars

[Anonymous No.]

the best thing to ever come out of vshojo was that picture with Ironmouse on her deathbed and Calliope taking a picture, But i cant find it anymore, archives be damned

[Anonymous No.]

>>2480953
Miko obviously didn't like the dog enough to become closer with her(?) than a one time collab. She doesn't have to become good friends with every person she collabs with and it's unreasonable to expect otherwise. Also the dog's a bitch for whining about it on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
>please let me leech you
someone put this dog to sleep already

[Anonymous No.]

>>2486057
Yeah like how Mel was a bitch for talking about her molestation on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2486422
>unironically comparing not collabing on a stream to being molested
cool fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

still biting for the vyt schizos falseflag bait even on this board

[Anonymous No.]

quick reminder that the only people who hate Mel are (You), nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2486756
I dont even know who that is.

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>>2486057
She did multiple collabs. She only stopped doing it once she gained fame through memes. She used the streamer for her gains and abandoned her when it was convenient.

>Also the dog's a bitch for whining about it on twitter
It was likely in relation to Miko ghosting her on twitter itself.

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>>2487215
It’s ironic when you see them calling people like Uto and other people a leech. But of course all the holos are perfect people that can do no wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466445
Nigger in what way does that make it inferior? Twitch shits on YouTube as a viewing experience.
>>2467138
Is that it? One point? YT is fucking trash for streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
Literally who? Not Shiba, the boring generic looking one.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: nijiniggers going desperate on their rrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466743
numberfags deciding who there going to consume next

[Anonymous No.]

>>2487529
She’s the one who said nigger on stream and got away with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470254
I think you need to shut the fuck up since Suisei sometimes appeared at her indie friends stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2480953
It's really fun seeing these niggers defending Miko when in the /jp/ days they were probably all shitting on Towa for ignoring some literally who indie that said she wanted to play FPS games with her, after Towa asked on twitter for some partners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2487563
it's just the same recycled shit that the one wojacks guy from vyt has been harping on about for the last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>2474911
>>2485653
Imagine being this retarded. Only in 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2470485
What are you even talking about? Shiba has 130k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2488209
imagine being this new and retarded, only nijikeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>2474911
Dont you have a new artist to attack on twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2484534
imagine thinking this kind of Jewish behavior is totally normal and should be celebrated. I guess this is why Holo is so popular in US

[Anonymous No.]

>>2474059
You should read niji threads when Meiro graduated. That was some fun stuff.

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>>2464330
So I decided to look something up and THIS is the Niji bitch that they added to the collab?

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCsg-YqdqQ-KFF0LNk23BY4A

Those channel metrics are downright pathetic and lousy. Is a failing Nijinigger (let's be honest 90% of them are failures) the best they could do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2490586
>not knowing Deron
You need to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>2490586
youre really reaching

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466320
theyre all horny

[Anonymous No.]

>>2490718
>>2490731
>Not knowing this random Niji who averages a pathetic 1600 viewers
Yeah, no shit, that is literally Iofi and Anya tier. It's pretty awful. This would be the equivalent of some big international collab with Hololive and the Holo they got was Iofi, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2490949
she's just the fubuki of nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>2491023
NTA but I think they’re trying to imply, why should anyone who doesn’t know about Nijisanji care about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2490352
Doomposting troll probably showing up just for the drama certainly representative of the general attitude of normal well adjusted fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2491049
Think most people who know anything much about the vtuber industry are going to know her even if they don't watch her? She is part of one of the most well known groups in the industry with JK Gumi, with a record label contract, has had physical releases for an album and multiple singles, had her own solo live events on multiple times, has her own ongoing radio show and is part of a tv show, has had brand deals with baseball teams and so on?

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>>2491570
Isn't it funny that you idiots always bring up stuff like "endorsements", "TV Shows", and other bullshit like that whenever discussion turns to a failed vtuber. The simple fact is that she averages 1600 viewers whenever she streams so apparently not a lot of people care about her. Literally more people watch Iofi who is the bottom of the barrel of hololives indog branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2466872
a female comedian is an oxymoron anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>2491700
I mean if someone says someone is supposed to be a failure its quite natural to give examples of achievements they have had that the vast majority of vtubers only hope for if they have them isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

holofags really have a warped sense of what is considered success and failure when it comes to VTubers, especially since most of them are also newfags who only came into this community last year and know next to nothing about the industry beyond whatever happens inside the hololive bubble

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>>2491772
I don't know if I would consider them achievements as much as I would consider them the corporate big wigs trying to force her on people. She is a vtuber which is short for virtual YOUTUBER. When she streams she can't even draw a crowd of 2,000. She is a failure at the basic duties of her job.

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>>2491997
That isn't a failure though? Many vtubers would love as many viewers as her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492093
Disingenuous. You can't compare her to indies and shit. You need to compare her to other corporate vtubers where the standard for success is much higher. She absolutely fails in that regard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2491700
>>2491997
>do holofags really

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492140
Yes and there's more corporations out there than just Niji and Holo. Compared to them that's still pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
>AI is still stuck at 2.94 million
Is YT fucking with her or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492167
Yeah, you are right. There are other corporations out there. I'm sure Kaede LOWguchi (get it, LOW viewers) is really happy that she outdraws the talents from like.....Tsunderia or something. You are being disingenuous again. The standards for Hololive and Niggershitty are much higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492184
Yagoo is paying Susan to suppress Ai's numbers.

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>>2491997
I think most vtubers would kill to be able to say they have done half the shit she has with her career, even those with much better viewer numbers. You think these girls that want to be idols wouldn't love to have their own solo albums and live events, to see their image up on a huge advertisements in the middle of Tokyo, to be singing the OP songs for anime and all that shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
This is going to have big numbers and these triabal faggots are going to seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492286
>Huge advertisements in the middle of Tokyo
You know I could pay for a billboard with my face on it right now if I wanted too? That means nothing.
>Live Events
Just about every vtuber has these. 3D lives are a dime a dozen. Not a major accomplishment
>Their own solo album
I'm going to record myself farting into a jar and publish it online. BOOM, I now have a solo album.

All of these "accomplishments" amount to nothing and can all be forced out because she is backed by a corporation. The absolute root of the entire point here is that she is a massive failure when it comes to the basic duties of her job. When she has total control over her content she is a massive failure. All that other shit you mentioned is shit that was forced out by her corporation and required no effort on her part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492419
This is an unhealthy amount of cope, anon. Just saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492419
You could pay for an advertisement with your face on it but thats not really the same thing as working your way up to a position in an industry where you have people willing to promote you in that way. Hardly any vtubers have solo live events? I am talking about real actual live events with people there and tickets in a venue. You could publish your shitty album online but that isn't the same as having one properly produced with a major physical release available in stores nationwide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
VShojo really need bilingual ENG/JAP speakers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492419
What are the basic duties of a VTuber? Because full-time virtual streamer isn't the only thing VTubers can do considering there are VTubers that mainly do short video content e.g. Kizuna Ai or the entire VSinger sphere of VTubers who mainly use YouTube as a platform to promote their music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492667
They have Hime who I think even lives in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492620
I think you are lacking reading comprehension skills. I already debunked all that stuff as meaningless. Her corporation wants her to succeed so they involve her in all of these projects to force her on the people (think of a forced meme). However, when she is left to her own devices and her own talents without her corporation to back her up, nobody watches her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492698
The problem here is that she isn't a Vsinger. She is a "Liver" as the Nijiniggers like to call it. The whole act of being a "Liver" and live streaming is totally beyond her. Nobody watches her and she is a failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492727
There is nothing to debunk here. I'm just telling you that you have a weird definition of success if you think that someone who has achieved things most vtubers, likely including many of those who are more successful by your reckoning, only dream of is a failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492830
The cope from you is out of control

[Anonymous No.]

>>2464330
Can even one of them speak both languages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2492799
If you're using hololive numbers as the baseline for success/failure, then of course you would erroneously conclude that the rest of the VTuber industry are failures. The problem here is that hololive has a known overseas audience that's much larger compared to the rest of the industry, so naturally their numbers would be higher. You would have to normalize hololive's numbers to the rest of the industry before you can compare them in any reasonable sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2493164
Not beyond intermediate level, I suppose. Someone said nyanners speaks some japanese but I wouldn't know how well since I don't watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2468831
>一回でいいからお返事して
this is so pathetic I bursted into laughter

[Anonymous No.]

>>2493178
so the only way of justifying niji numbers is to lower holo numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>2488247
yeah, after more than two years, what an imbecile you are for me to explain you this

[Anonymous No.]

>>2491961
>the hololive bubble
for fucks sake use analogies correctly insufferable moron, only refer to bubbles when you talk about a small group, not about the biggest/leading/reference of an industry, bubble would be indies, vshojo, upd8, voms, holostars and now NIJISANJI

[Anonymous No.]

>>2491961
>hololive bubble
lol, when 95% of the threads in /vt are for hololive
what a sad moment to be a nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>2500010
>biggest/leading/reference
you gaijin piggu and holo are irrelevant in japan