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>shion dead
>aqua dead
>ayame dead
>marine's throat dead
>pekora's throat dead
>coco graduated
>rushia terminated
>haachama still menhera

>> No.24459015

>>24458820
>suisei dead

>> No.24459094

>>24458820
IRyS's face is so funny looking.

>> No.24459196

>>24458820
Real talk, HoloJP sucks right now, their best streamers don't stream anymore.

>> No.24459213

>>24458820
But we still have Subaru and Fubuki, right? Right?

>> No.24459240

>>24458820
>>ayame dead
Just her grandpa

>> No.24459257

I am the strongest ichimi

>> No.24459286
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24459286

>>24459257
I posted this

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24459380

>>24458820
>shion dead
>aqua dead

>> No.24459383

>>24458820
>>24459015
The lack of graduations in Hololive is a huge outlier with idol groups. Generally girls only stick around for 2 years before moving on.

>>24459213
>Subaru
Barely
>Fubuki
Yes

>> No.24459396

>>24458820
>>haachama still menhera
Watch streams

>> No.24459465

>>24459383
Money bruv

>> No.24459471

>>24459396
90% of haatons stopped watching last year when she kept looping the menhera shit

>> No.24459530

>>24459286
You didn’t, but I’m happy to not be alone.
Shit sucks man!! She hasn’t been able to catch a break for over half a year now.

>> No.24459611

>>24459465
Yes and? Idol groups usually graduate their girls around the 2 year mark. Hololive is a huge outlier by allowing the girls to decide upon their own graduations, short of breeches of contract.

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24459637

>>24459383
As comparison, nijisanji with 100+ members only has less than dozen graduation
Hang in there, holomems

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24459663

>>24458820
nothing lasts forever

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>>24459094

>> No.24459794

>>24459637
Nijisanji doesn't do the idol thing. It's just a talent agency.

>> No.24459923

>>24459637
Didn't they have some training program vtuber academy thing that was like 30-40 members that they killed off all at once?

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24460017

Kanata more or less came back, and brat related is going strong. Play her cards right, and she'll be soon reigning supreme.

It's a fine time to be a cunny lover.

>> No.24460025

>>24459637
Similarly for the OP's doom and gloom only two of those are actually-gone for real. Ayame and Shion do feel like they might as well have graduated by now but they're not actually-gone.

In contrast much of the NijiJP old guard are very much Ayame-like, at least like 20-30, on top of a lot more actual graduations. It just-so happens that most of them burn out after a few years, especially in a free-for-all environment like that where there's no pressure to keep up with the company as a group.

>> No.24460055

Gen 2 is already disbanded at this point. The only one who's really there is Subaru, Choco coming second but still far and the rest are soft graduated.
Gen 3 is barely hanging there without Marine, then Rushia and now Pekora.
Gen 1 is also in bad shape because Matsuri pretty much is indie tier right now after all her yabs and apesex ,and Haachama somehow lost like 70% of her viewers (I believe her lack of consistent schedule and gaming streams hurt her a lot). Mel and Aki are kinda inclining but they are already too far behind, so Fubuki is the only one holding the gen.
The only gens who are doing good are gamers, 5 and 6. Gen 4 are more like 4 gen-less chubas without Coco; same with gen 0.
Outside a pretty small amount of holomems most of them feel like they are either depressed or severely burned out.

>> No.24460191

>>24460055
Haachama split her audience trying hard for EN attention only she isn't actually-that-good at speaking English and while it was a cute gimmick for a while, it's hard to hold the EN audience for real when a year+ on with the English vtubing scene far, far fucking more fleshed out than in Fall 2020. The other thing is her constant breaks and her content itself getting stuck in a loop of lore arcs - both of these things happening at once, making her practically a non-player as an actual consistent streamer for what, about a year? Maybe longer? She both just wasn't fucking there to keep momentum and the lore started timelooping and people just got tired of it (her Japanese audience especially grew to hate it vs streaming).

Oh, and karaoke. Apart from breaks and lore vids, she did karaoke. And that's about it. I honestly fucking hate it that Haachama and Aqua alike have this thing of just not doing jack shit for weeks, comes back all cheery with a karaoke pretending she didn't ghost us for a month and then just fucks off again. Hey fuck you bitch, things AREN'T okay like that.

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>>24460055
I am ALLLLL in for the rise of Mel after all these years. She deserves to incline and it'd be about the most interesting/unexpected turnaround I could have possibly imagined. She's still generally pretty smalltime but man that'd be cool if she actually became a big name.

>> No.24460388

>>24459383
Subaru stream everyday

>> No.24460438

>>24459611
irl idol can grow saggy, vtuber isnt

they just need to change va and then continue to milk money

>> No.24460454

>>24460191
But at least chammers after getting back she did get back and stayed. The real problem was that she was time looping, as you said, with the lore thing and then it was just either karaokes or viewer content review. The content review is amazing but it's not something you can do consistently because in the end it's not your content. She also stopped cooking and completely disregarded video games altogether. The lack of games is what I think hurt her more as today she streamed minecraft and got like 9k viewers. Her real problem is that she kinda stopped producing content and her streams were mostly about consuming/reacting to content made by her fans, and that in the long run is just not feasible.
>>24460247
I really like she's trying to be consistent now. I do think I read something about gen 6 being mostly recommendations she made; hopefully she can form a group with them and thrive.

>> No.24460482

>>24460247
While it would be cool, the big names, like Pekora, Coco, Aqua, Polka, Ame or Gura, ride entirely on a quirky personality. Or maybe, in some cases, on amazing talent, like FBK. And Mel, while nice, is a wet blanket.

I guess she could try aiming for Rushia's simpbase, but Wammy capitalized on it already so... I don't see it. She'd be massive if she somehow grew a personality. Or maybe if she went to college for a broadcasting degree. But as things stand... I really don't see it.

>> No.24460538

>>24460438
>they just need to change va and then continue to milk money
How'd that work for Aichan, summerfag?

>> No.24460545

Ina wants to take a long break as well

>> No.24460575

>>24460482
>Ame
>quirky personality

>> No.24460601

>>24460438
if that was the case they would have swapped Coco, Aloe and Rushia

>> No.24460614

>>24460055
You are just comparing everybody with pekora ccv which is quite unfair also EN tourist left haachama no the haatons

>> No.24460638

>>24460575
Quirky enough. The ground pound your mom meme still lives in shitholes like youtube comments, discord and facebook.

>> No.24460738

>>24460614
Not really. I'm not numberfagging (if I were then Aqua and Shion wouldn't be in the list). I'm talking about streaming consistently and putting out good content with good reception from viewers.

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>>24459471
She's doing normal streams for more than year now.
Also
>90% from 8000 is 3000

>> No.24460764

>>24460575
>>24460638
The recent Smol Ame stream where she showed off an Eren dick towel edit seemed pretty quirky.

>> No.24460827

>>24459383
Subaru is still going strong

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24460877

>>24459637
>yumenographia nani?

>> No.24460941

>>24460191
>Hey fuck you bitch, things AREN'T okay like that.
Why? Stop being so entitled.

>> No.24460950

>>24459923
>killed off
You answered your own question, barely graduation more like mass laid off.
You need to read what im originally answered to, anon

>> No.24460986

>>24460941
If he's a member, he should be entitled.

>> No.24460988

>>24460941
It's the attitude they have about it that annoys me, Ayame does it too. It feels condescending like "you ought to be grateful I bust my ass working 2 hours a month for you!!! now gimme money and continue your membership!!" No. I won't. And I will not support such a model.

>> No.24461081

>>24460988
Now, come on. I was defending you, but comparing Aqua and Haachama with someone like Ayame is taking it way too far.

>> No.24461111

>>24460988
When did haachama force you to pay her 5 bucks every month?

>> No.24461114

>>24460986
>>24460988
It's only 50 pesos, that's like what? 2.5 dollars? Just how poor are you? Paying so little doesn't entitled to whine like a Karen. Just cancel it and fuck off, and shut up.

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24461165

>>24461111
Her chammerish wiles, they torment me.

>> No.24461201

>>24461114
Says the third worlder ESL. Fuck off back to your designated shitting street Pajeet.

>> No.24461263

>>24459383
There is no hard rule about that, some idol groups were around for 10 years or so.

>> No.24461283

>>24461201
ESLs will always be 10 times the man you are Tyrone

>> No.24461341

>>24461201
At least I'm not whinning about 2 and half dollars.

>> No.24461751

I wonder how 2views feel about people like shion and ayame. Probably pure autistic rage.

>> No.24461861

>>24460877
>different project
>with different management
>with different goals
being under anycolor does not make them nijisanji
>c-c-cope
beyond the point. I never watched them, did not care, they apparently weren't profitable and were terminated as a failed project

>> No.24461934

>>24458820
What the hell happened...things used to be so good too

>> No.24461962

>>24461751
most holo hate is deeply rooted in one form of jealousy or another, it's not restricted to literalwho2views

>> No.24462049

>>24461751
I’m a 2view and it doesn’t bother me. Shion in particular really sounds like she has it rough.

>> No.24462077

>>24461962
For Ayame in particular it's also spite developed from former fans because she transformed completely. She used to be pretty normal, just as consistent a streamer as anyone else for her first year-ish, but dropped off to become what is currently Aqua-like for a while, and now is in a pure "lmaooo I don't give a fuuuck" phase that I can truly only assume would end in graduation to formalize it. If she doesn't care and is hanging on just to jadedly collect money and manipulate the feelings of the remaining nakirigumi into hanging onto hope, she's kind of a shitty person and doesn't really merit a lot of kind words anymore.

>> No.24462094

>>24461751
i'm not even a streamer and i feel pure autistic rage

>> No.24462120

>>24461934
2big2fast, just a couple of years ago these girls weren't even imagining much less preparing themselves for this sort of exposure, responsibilities, schedules, deadlines, competition, pressure, stakes and all of the other shit that comes with the giant brand holo has become.

>> No.24462194

>>24462077
nah, you're just another entitled faggot

>> No.24462299

Aqua is dead wtf, she has 3 sponsored projects ongoing
-Redbull with Botan
-Family something
-SAO new game
-has a concert in June
She started the recordings for her game (which she already showed is A LOT)
and her last karaoke was 90% green in chat
I kinda understand why new fans don't understand the appeal of Aqua cause 2019 Aqua was a beast (she had 5000+ hours streamed and second place was Miko with 4000+) but then 80% of her content got private. Like how many people has seen her playthrough of God of War or even knows about it

>> No.24462319

>>24460025
Wasn't niji always heavy on part-timers that at times had no desire to go full time? That's why their roaster is not quite as bloated in practice, they could form a cohesive unit from livers that are actually serious about streaming if they didn't end up with cliques. They actually change their whole approach with niji EN and it seems to work quite well.

>> No.24462594

>>24462194
And you're another spineless joke of a human enabling her crap.

If she had any dignity she should have fucking quit last year and gone out with a solid reputation like Coco instead of milk it on long after she was clearly over this. I'm fine with her being over with being a streamer and doing other things in life, but not fine with her abusing her fans and making a mockery of Hololive being the supposed premier corpo when it allows someone to work 1/20th as hard as someone like Koyori and dare have them stand on the same stage next to each other at lives. It's disrespectful to the people who actually fucking care about this still to equivocate Ayame to them.

>> No.24462706

>>24460454
well haachama is quite busy with college and doesn't seem to depend on streaming for money so she doesn't need to force herself, also her channel might be fucked by extra fucked by yt.

>> No.24462801

>>24462194
NTA but go ahead and tell us what you think the standards VTubers should be held to are huh?

>> No.24462832

>>24460388
And her streams are lazy and boring nowadays.

>> No.24462834

>>24461751
nobody cares how 2view shitters feel

>> No.24462989

>>24459923
I think you're confusing it with that virtual escort service that they canned because investors told them to.

>> No.24463193

>>24458820
What in the god name hell is this pic
Imma steal it
Thx op

>> No.24463208

>>24461751
If anything 2views really really look up to those two

>> No.24463839

>>24462299
literally none of those things matter
people just want to see her play vidya daily, it's not that complicated
they don't care about her shilling energy drinks or mobile games while doing one karaoke stream a month

>> No.24464394

>>24459637
Most are like Roa

>> No.24464828

>>24463839
Don't impose your ideals on other people.

>> No.24464879

>>24458820
>irys no new outfit/ 3D

>> No.24464900

>>24461751
just look at this thread

>> No.24465100

>>24464828
don't diss what he said though, some fans are leaving (and maybe shitposting) because they were fans of aqua the streamer, not whatever she is right now and just like she has no obligation to pander to them anymore they have no obligation to not shittalk her

>> No.24465723

>>24465100
Well, I blame their shortsightedness, Aqua was always into idol stuff since the very beginning, hell she was participating in concerts within 6 months after her debut, from 2020 she finally had the opportunity to take it to the next level and she's doing a fantastic job.

>> No.24467727

>>24462801
None. If they are having fun that is everything that matters.

>> No.24468680

>>24465723
I will follow her to the grave or rm

>> No.24469029

>>24458820
>people take their holiday
they must be dead!!!11eleven

>> No.24469325

>>24460764
>Eren dick towel edit
I don't remember that

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>>24469325
She skipped it pretty quickly and screamed in the process.

She showed it on purpose though, because each edit was handpicked to appear on stream. There was one with a sagging nutsack that didn't make the cut.

>> No.24469741

>>24458820
I don't care, Miko still goes strong and her recent WWE streams were amazing. Also, she said herself that she will be streaming for another 10-15 years, so I probably will be dead when she graduates.

>> No.24470232

>>24461934
degradation of fanbase.png
it all started at the debut of EN

>> No.24470348

>>24470232
none of the things listed by OP have anything to do with EN

>> No.24470371

It's always funny seeing tertiaries talk about Aqua like she's Ayame when she's constantly doing idolshit.

>> No.24470503

>>24462077
Ayame doesn't look like she has solid reason to not streaming, but if not streaming makes her fans happy about it, then good for them. Though this idea sounds crazy to me.

>> No.24470733

>>24462299
Aqua was Holo's best gamer. Fans wanna see Aqua play games Elden Ring but Aqua never really return to her glorious gamer identity. But solomas and Vsaikyou were exceptional showing.

>> No.24470808

>>24461751
Shion is depressed, Ayame is just a whore. Not the same

>> No.24470968

>>24470808
>Ayame is just a whore
God, I wish.

>> No.24471155

>>24462299
Aqua has it rough, I don't blame her if she burned out and taking easy at this point. Shion and Ayame already have been absent like that since 2018.

>> No.24471351

>>24462706
Chama was creative, crazy and based at one point, a unique existence. But now she has lost her direction and identity, the crazy antics are now cringe.
Chama tried to act crazy, but she also streamed ordinary content more and more. Her new outfit is seiso white dress. All these conflicting elements made her identity became a mess, or lost her identity.

>> No.24471962

>>24462319
Entire industry working like that, most vtubers are contractors or part-timers even some of those biggest ones. It's not a stable career, unless you are the top ones who already made a name for yourself.

>> No.24472769

>>24461751
>>24462594
There is really nothing wrong with having a schedule like Ayame. If you're not a member, it's free so why do you care? And if you're a member, it should be obvious she doesn't stream much so you get what you pay for. Maybe you think she doesn't deserve all that cash, but enough people give her money to make it sustainable. They find it worthwhile to fund her for whatever reason. So what's the big deal? This stuff is a job to them. If they're putting in the bare minimum, that's still fine so long as they do what they're asked.

>> No.24473669

>>24460247
I feel like Mel is the most underrated and unknown of all of Hololive. She has the most potential for being a darkhorse for incline and I’d love to see her succeed as well.

>>24460482
I see this complaint about Mel so much but it’s rather overplayed. She is certainly lower energy then the zanier members of Hololive but she has some hidden moments where she really shines. I think she is aware she can match them if she so chose but chooses not to as she is more comfortable being herself. Mel probably is the most ‘normie’ in Hololive but she has quite the OG otaku taste in her interests as well. Plus not everyone wants Looney Tunes levels of energy and I could see Mel carving out a nice niche of the market while a lot of the others fight over the same group of fans who want zany high energy.

>> No.24473956

>>24472769
Because there are thousands who would kill to be in ayame's position yet she takes it for granted and never streams.

>> No.24474131

>>24473669
Mel used to do ASMR a lot, until Youtube and Cover decided to go more seiso. That was her biggest weapon.
I don't watch Mel but haven't heard amazing things about Mel, for example Haachama's minecraft building prowess, Aqua's gaming prowess, Suisei's singing prowess, Korone's entertaining prowess, etc.
Rarely seen people praise Mel for something though.

>> No.24474229

>>24473669
>not everyone wants Looney Tunes levels of energy
And that's completely fine. Again, she's nice. Nothing against her.

But she will never be one of the big ones, because the big ones give Looney Tunes levels of energy. Hell, most do as much and don't make it. But those who make it, do have those quirks. Even the OGs like Aichan and Kaguya Luna were quirky as fuck.

I guess that's the thing. Popular ones have to be memeable, which all things considered it's a bad thing. Mel is most definitely not memeable. That's what I meant by her being a wet blanket - no quirkiness, no La Creatividad levels of shock value. Which is more than fine. For many, preferable. But not for those looking for quick entertainment while having lunch or as background noise, which are the majority.

I guess it's a backhanded compliment, but her being, yes, as you put it, normalfaggish, is really a good thing. I mean it. But it won't make her explode like the big names I mentioned before.

>> No.24474439

>>24474131
As someone who doesn't watch Mel what I know about her is that she can be pretty great during collabs (personally I loved her collabs with Matsuri where Mel was very dominant) and she really shines on stage.

>> No.24474610

>>24473956
Ayame streamed a lot in early days, and contributed a lot in building the Hololive brand. Holo pioneers can stop streaming today onwards and still deserve their position and rights. I hate Ayame's lame excuse though, she should be honest and declare half retirement status, rather than pretending busy.

On the other hand, new gen lazy members should get slapped in the face. They contributed nothing or minimal to company, just pure leeching off the brand. Also wasting the holo slots for other talented applicants.

>> No.24474670

>>24474610
Don't know about the first paragraph, but about the second one, true that. Fucking Kronii.

>> No.24474729

remember when aqua and shion streamed minecraft all day

then eops happened

>> No.24474739

>>24473669
>>24474131
Mel does more ASMR as Rika, and Rika is followed by more alt-holo accounts than anyone else.

>> No.24474832

>>24474610
I don't think that fits anyone from gen 4, 5 and 6 though. the only one who's been taking a lot of breaks is kanata and it's because of her health
>>24474729
shion streamed frequently until the first quarter of 2021, then a lot of stuff happened to her in a short time

>> No.24476106

>>24458820
>marine's throat dead
>pekora's throat dead
This makes me think there will be fewer holomems that put on funny voices going forward. It's one thing to be a voice actor and strain your voice for an hour or so every week, and a different one to do so while streaming for 4-6 times a week for 2+ hours each.

>> No.24476241

>>24462832
thats your problem

>> No.24476574

>>24476106
>while streaming for 4-6 times a week for 2+ hours each.
But Marine never did that.

>> No.24476814

>>24462832
That's your opinon

>> No.24476874

The absolute state of holo jp

>> No.24477011

>>24472769
I also think people can do whatever they want. Being upset that harder working people are less fortunate is faggotry.
But Ayame being a lazy faggot is also faggotry.

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>>24458820
>>24459015
>>24459755
Irys forgive me for laughing.
I'll go punch redjuice until he gives you the Guilty Treatment and not whatever happened here.

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>>24477364
I think you want to talk to the rigger then, his art is still pretty good in my opinion

>> No.24477540

>>24459383
They don't move on. They're moved on when they get too old to be cute and bankable. The majority of idol groups are just a grift for old Japanese Jews to exploit the young and stupid for as much short term money as possible. Shit's literally based on the old Hollywood studio system, which should tell you as much about the industry as you need to know.

>> No.24477576

>>24477011
>I also think people can do whatever they want.
>some people are faggotry.

?????
Acknowledging different thoughts are okay, but some thoughts are faggotry.

You can't be accepting and rejecting at the same time my man

>> No.24482501

Holox 3D when?

>> No.24483265

>>24462299
You really expect your average /vt/ user to understand that the talents do other projects outside of streaming vidya? These are the same people who daily try to drag each other down like crabs in a bucket because they hate the thought of another person being happy

>> No.24483706

>>24474131
It was really that Youtube was demonetizing channels with ASMR streams.
Mel's streams are pretty low energy; the main thing that I remember about them was that she always did a great Toad impression when she was playing Paper Mario.

>> No.24485037

/12 1.31 million subscribers
13 days in between
17/12 1.32 million subscribers
13 days in between
29/12 1.33 million subscribers
19 days in between
16/1 1.34 million subscribers
it has been 53 days since a full 10k gain

between 5/12 and 16/1 (42 days) gained 10080416 total views
between 16/1 and 27/2 (42 days) gained 3173155 total views
decrease by 68.521586807% in total views

between 5/12 and 16/1 (42 days) there were 25 streams
start is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULbSydKA0Bs 127,771 views
minus 395,743 views
minus 161,749 views
2nd stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMCdl4XwasI 127,265 views
3rd stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEDxLV5b2l4 69,223 views
4th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0f7PUYJuk 187,713 views
5th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4EqPG-4w4 (privated)
6th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30coZ2cztB4 (Unarchived to member's only)
minus 236,372 views
minus 186,659 views
7th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnca_X3T0U 98,347 views
minus 98,763 views
8th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG2wP3vZSmk 149,554 views
minus 741,454 views
minus 462,044 views
9th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-XuRP6zvOA 333,364 views
10th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmaWvu9OM3o 201,805 views
minus 189,844 views
11th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy62AHZwOE8 680,215 views
12th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_KXJwu47A 179,010 views
13th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1yVtuB4yhw 118,416 views
14th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRXyQsOQC50 144,872 views
15th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezW2_sJf4DA 181,645 views
minus 145,564 views
16th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiavgCb5nU 136,702 views
minus 738,086 views
17th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3tKCt3PbOg 570,320 views
18th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YazuwO5DxYs 344,312 views
minus 80,234 views
19th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhYl1JVBz1M 185,439 views
20th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWSX3BNrsHs 271,049 views
minus 185,244 views
21st stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A08eWF0Xz4 (privated)
22nd stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EspFOhq6vMc (privated)
23rd stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-vdMj_eDKw (privated)
24th stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGgxJqDqvoE (privated)
finish is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swA3XVYvgN4 588,953 views

net views from 19 streams over the span of 42 days is 4,695,975 views

>> No.24485063

>>24485037
between 16/1 and 10/3 (53 days) there were 47 streams
start is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKBxdQeImk8 139,150 views
2nd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXIibq8fQz0 118,807 views
3rd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2EjAEGuKD8 (privated)
4th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP-PTfLWDE8 146,188 views
minus 60,911 views
5th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNrs14FCBMk (privated)
6th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWbk0VOI6gk (privated)
7th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzQfLqFEp_s (privated)
8th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cArT-xO9BZY (unarchived)
9th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUWSDf-yyj0&t 104,650 views
(there was a 9 day break here due to moving residence according to haatons)
10th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqWKypA3PMY 72,273 views
11th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru0v6YfXNuw 57,638 views
12th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1jh_uGC1k 52,928 views
minus 54,490 views
13th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz4UbNUpdBs 62,666 views
minus 65,487 views
14th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXYhBy1T-0 73,592 views
15th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uODjpkhfH4o 80,031 views
minus 55,130 views
16th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7DYH2zQhSM 54,359 views
17th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXm0PWPfOpI 59,873 views
18th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxH7UePMzcI 68,393 views
19th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0T-f3fV0ao 92,061 views
20th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hgD5tdSjGs 77,690 views
21st stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_eUoKCLG8 67,427 views
22nd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeTyLjmA8HY 137,735 views
23rd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4549lWFrjvE 50,270 views
24th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KCoZfHm7Tg 53,793 views
25th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r05-ybfaPmY 53,604 views
26th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axdsG1Z4OpQ 74,057 views
27th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5o643bA1sM 44,953 views
28th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsplkncNDo 43,521 views
29th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp-GfbfTR38 133,864 views
30th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63OWpAf2fdA 51,381 views
31st stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcF48KkfiX8 59,488 views
32nd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqphy9wEXp8 93,803 views
33rd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXOITIG01A 149,692 views
34th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad4_ys1Q8-Q 52,477 views
35th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8WQGz4Hwd8 53,273 views
36th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_EowgjBN6I 103,209 views
37th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KXAT88i7Pw 46,389 views
38th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRbmKX-oVFc 74,795 views
39th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMJmRtsEFjg 73,994 views
40th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwv2LR_Mw7o 36,911 views
41st stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEn19V2jxs 61,388 views
42nd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ThkP8Wx0I 42,694 views
43rd stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjiCu82NMCg 52,864 views
44th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaU_Bor7imQ 67,525 views
45th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvugstfXrNY 54,923 views
46th stream is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-h86MUQOLk 67,199 views
finish is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYizyYe5GY 65,760 views

net views from 42 streams over the span of 53 days is 3,127,288 views

33.404926559% decrease in total views even with double the amount of streams on more days

>> No.24485168 [DELETED] 

>>24485037
I really dislike it when people are ingenious about these things and start taking shit from their head canon and phrasing them as facts.
this is an analysis if haachama from the 15th of December 2021 till the 10th of march 2022 with a pivotal point being the 17th of January 2022, which is the day she effectively turned off her superchats, the fact that anyone in their right mind believes that this much of a decrease can happen in a single day and night naturally must be admitted to an institute and thrown into a padded room because meds can no longer work, not even numberfags themselves can wrap their heads around this but all you can do is simply accept it
and I'm sure, comparing those numbers to April's numbers for example, you'll still find the same pattern

>> No.24485203

>>24485037
>>24485063
I really dislike it when people are ingenious about these things and start taking shit from their head canon and phrasing them as facts.
this is an analysis if haachama from the 5th of December 2021 till the 10th of march 2022 with a pivotal point being the 17th of January 2022, which is the day she effectively turned off her superchats, the fact that anyone in their right mind believes that this much of a decrease can happen in a single day and night naturally must be admitted to an institute and thrown into a padded room because meds can no longer work, not even numberfags themselves can wrap their heads around this but all you can do is simply accept it
and I'm sure, comparing those numbers to April's numbers for example, you'll still find the same pattern

>> No.24485364

>>24463839
People dismiss this but every holo built their initial audience through streaming, gained wider exposure through streaming, and will be gradually forgotten when they stop streaming. Marine was going schizo during her break for good reason, she knows that if she's gone too long the audience won't be back when she finally streams again.

>> No.24485490

>>24485037
>>24485063
holy autism

>> No.24485507

>>24477519
The rigger uses the material provided by the artist

>> No.24485577

>>24485037
>>24485063
you're way too fucking based for this place, go back to where people will actually appreciate your efforts

>> No.24485839

>>24485037
>>24485063
Holy Mother of autism... How THIS is numberfagging done right, anon I absolutely kneel

>> No.24486727

>>24473956
Stfu commie

>> No.24486786
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>>24462594

>> No.24487135
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24487135

>>24485037
>>24485063
>>24485203
Here anon, to help you make your point in a single image.

>there was an inflexion point right after the R-18 review with Marine and the "self demonetization" that clearly hurt Haachama discoverability afterwards

>> No.24487558

>>24474131
I would best describe Mel as a Jack of All Trades; she is one of the better singers but not the best, she is one of the better dancers but not the best, she is one of the better networkers but not the best, etc. etc.

If I could say there is one area she shines in, she is good at ad libbing RP. Like she'll create one time only characters on the spot, but I can see something like this not being very engaging to fans who prefer a regular gimmick.

>>24474229
That's fair, I am curious to see what her Sololive arc will do for her given that prior Holomembers who have done such shows have been more prominent and established members. Mel would be the first low tier to do such an event so more potential for a buff if she really wows.

>> No.24488101

>>24487135
Oh wow... That's just... That's something alright

>> No.24488282

>>24487135
Ah, so Haachama got the Mel shadowban treatment then huh?

>> No.24492286

>>24488282
seems like it yes

>> No.24492981

>HoloJP declining
>t-this is EN's fault
do JPsharts really

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