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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>58,576: Sora (Hololive)
>33,652: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,669: Fubuki (Hololive)
>28,686: Towa (Hololive)
>27,051: Kanata (Hololive)
>26,253: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,712: Uki (Nijisanji)
>24,749: Enna (Nijisanji)
>23,853: Shion (Hololive)
>17,767: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,862: Miko (Hololive)
>16,033: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,864: Watame (Hololive)
>15,105: Lamy (Hololive)
>14,644: Moco (indie)
>14,508: Ui (Indie)
>13,410: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,318: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,297: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,694: Nui (Nijisanji)
>12,520: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,436: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,844: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,693: Ame (Hololive)
>11,546: Korone (Hololive)
>11,163: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>11,019: Mio (Hololive)
>10,769: Flare (Hololive)
>10,673: Asahina (Nijisanji)
>10,571: Noel (Hololive)

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>>24355730
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio
1x: Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Pekora, Sora

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
96x: Hololive
30x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
16x: Pekora
15x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha
9x: Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata
4x: Marine, Suisei
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Toya
2x: Ange, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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[Anonymous No.]

>>24355677
I'm looking for a vsinger with these facemarks. I thought it was hanatan but she isn't. Anyone can help me?

[Anonymous No.]

>MAY NTSA TALLY
> 1. Luca - (Unarchived Karaoke)
> 5. yugo - (Celebration Karaoke)*Cripply silver*
> 8. Yugo - (Random Collab Clusterfuck, I have no idea what that was)
> 13. Mysta - (Off-collab)
> 14. Vox - (Horror Game Off-Collab)
> 15. Uki - (karaoke Relay)
> 15. Enna - (karaoke Relay)*Cripply silver*
> 15. Luca - (Celebration Off-collab) *Cripply bronze*

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>>24355832
Have you tried the VSinger thread?

[Anonymous No.]

bae 9.5K after winning match, looks like that will be the peak

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>>24355784
> more than double their competitors
Hololive is too strong

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>Towa 4k waiting room, 13k peak
>Baelz 6k waiting room should be getting a 20k peak, currently 10k peak
>EN cull = 50% of the actual numbers

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British coming out of nowhere today for Gura's Minecraft.

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>>24355784
We should have a tracker for podium sweeps too, that would be funny. Hololive has been getting a lot of those lately

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Remember when anon said
"Kobo can't passed vox. She need more boost or vox slowing down in sub" and she got super boost beating luca
And bam... she got ban twice, freezing her sub

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>>24356785
Towa is the more popular EN member

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>can't even break 10k for her supposed """Lamy slot"""
I thought blue woman strong? Not this one it seems

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>>24356810
is it a holiday? isn't it like really late sunday night there?

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At $1/1000 watch minutes, would cloudflare be a good YouTube/twitch alternative for vtubers? Assuming they could monetize with streamlabs or whatever.

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>>24356847
Wamy 10 k

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>>24356852
Or fucking early like 3~4am in Monday

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>>24355832
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpHIwGHq_3OfX42cyfyJp-A
Mimi(link) is a great vsinger. Tenjin Kotone(pic related) also has a face mark on her other model but she doesn't use this model as often as she should. She's also a great vsinger.

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>>24356916
>unculled baby smooth graph

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>>24356847
You just had to jinx it anon

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>>24356838
Is the water cunny back or is she still banned?

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>>24356916
>more or less 2k in EN sphere
the magic of unculled JPs

[Anonymous No.]

>he's still mad about the lamy slot joke

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura updated her minecraft playlist
Nice, that should be some actual VOD gains

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>>24357106
It wouldn't even be joked about if ENs weren't so culled that they only look about on par with Lamy when they're actually doing much much better.

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>>24357221
>that dig
still mad lmao

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>>24357221
If things were different, they would be different.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zshrxa-lQto
How many holos still streaming ER?

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>>24356838
>anon say Koro will soon passed Vox
>suddently Kobo got banned raid twice
chink is the culprit all along, the french is just a scapegoat.

Captcha : 8YESZ

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>>24357343
like 10 people still, however there are some that are going real slow so i don't know if they'll finish it

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>>24355832
MiMi? picrel

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This Gura/Mumei twin thing is getting more and more ridiculous for clippers

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Gura literally about to hit 100k per hr stream time before she even hits 2 hours of processing…

This is looking like a 300-350k vod by the morning

[Anonymous No.]

seanigs with the frog time loop again...

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>>24357467
She is a walking global meme. That's why her VOD always are high

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>>24357467
jesus 41k views already

[Anonymous No.]

>>24357343
Ina in near the end. IRyS was but not sure if she quit or not. Reine beat it but will eventually mess around in NG+. Ame just got to the capital. Kroni/Gura dropped it.

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>>24357085
THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES

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>>24357482
Its just some schizo pushing his french troll group narrative even though theres no hard evidence that links the group with the ban

[Anonymous No.]

What did Gura's peak end up being? Seems like no one joined her.

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Towa POV
>11.3k avg ccv
>53k reported view count
>1.03M subs

Bae's POV
>8.2k avg ccv
>22k reported view count
>546k subs

Will the vod view disparity continues after its done processing?

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watchtime 5/15
>2,715,928 NIJISANJI EN (700.9 hrs, 196 streams, 平均3,875人 avg)
>1,764,310 Hololive EN (253.6 hrs, 85 streams, 平均6,958人 avg)

monthly vod views
>Hololive EN 27,397,393 (27,893,731 w/ official ch)
>Nijisanji EN 25,762,026 (29,437,895 w/ official ch)

by group
>Myth 15,694,987
>Luxiem 12,409,503
>Council 6,126,282
>Noctyx 5,634,264
>Hope 5,576,124 (+topic views)
>Ethyria 3,056,637
>Lazulight 2,483,547
>Obsydia 2,178,075

[Anonymous No.]

>>24357579
couldnt topple milord but thats only natural since vox is inclining while gura is declining

[Anonymous No.]

>>24357579
23k. It's fascinating that last time with almost full Council joined her peak is 24k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24357579
Babe joined at the start(no voice) and Mumei was on for a few minutes.

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>>24357579
20.2k avg / 23.1k peak

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>>24357618
Council has their own fans, but everyone is a Gura fan

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>>24357586
Uhmmm.... EN cull bross????

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>>24357586
Vods process themselves differently. For example, the among us collab on JP side had Marine with 180k views to Pekora’s 90k at the time they ended, yet they basically finished with the same exact views when processing was finished. So low view counts don’t mean much unless it’s like, an actual low tier holo since you know what to expect. But big holos always have these moments where the vod looks small then processing hits and the views pour in

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>>24357596
>watchtime

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>>24357611
Show me the Vox graph we'll see if it was legit or not.

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>>24357405
>chink is the culprit all along
I bet it is. these are only attacking vtubers with this nonsense with a broad range including JP and ID. if it was an outside bunch of idiots they wouldn't care enough to attack that broadly. Chinese are the only ones bitter enough to want to attack vtubing in general and they love their bots.

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>>24357717
very important metric (when there is context)

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>>24356847
Lamy slot is earlier though

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>>24356785
Holy cull

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>>24357481
Still isn't beating Vox. Stop coping Holobrony and start kneeling to My Lord

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>>24357719
ah yes the famous imaginary worm viewfarm cope almost as famous as the imaginary cull viewfarm cope
funny how youtube is somehow targeting HoloEN while simultaneously boosting NijiEN must be some kind of conspiracy instead of it being the natural result of nijisanji actually investing in expanding into a very lucrative market like china

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>>24357577
>>24325055
>>24357742
>>24325055

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>>24357840
So you're saying the graph was fucked up?

[Anonymous No.]

1m soon? 2-3 days?

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>>24356810
>>24356852
It's all a lone drunk british guy who sent 33 superchats.

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>>24357834

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>>24357840
so you're not gonna explain the graph and we should assume you're baiting? ok got it

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>>24357892
Pretty likely if she does an endurance karaoke or something like that. The last rush to 1M on stream are fucking crazy

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>>24357840
Show graph or tits.

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>>24357596
>IRyS by herself is beating all 3 NijiEN female waves
HOLY FUCK GO IRyS!!!!

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>>24357840
Man, if only there was some kind of evidence of organized bot spam specifically from Chinese users...some kind of really overt precedent that lasted for months on end...

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>>24357742
And all of Niji that they ever attack. They pick the one that have rrat about making EN boi feel uncomfortable while collabing.
And the rest is just random target to camo the attack but only Kobo got hit twice.

So until the NijiEN like Vox or Luxiem got attacked by that bot, i will still believed it a Chink attack plan forever.

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>>24355826
HoloENbros...

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>>24357596
>Hololive EN 27,397,393 (27,893,731 w/ official ch)
>Nijisanji EN 25,762,026 (29,437,895 w/ official ch)
why the differences with the official channel

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>>24357873
the china hiring a supposed french troll group is stupid because thats like saying you can hire /b/tards as your personal army

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyFr_w-a7Xw
Onion gold?

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>>24357963
She almost solo Noctyx. Didn't she also take a lot of days off?

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>>24357989
sorry, too busy doing convention and sponsored jobs.

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>>24356810
Did the ARS guy send a single 500 SC or I'm reading it wrong?

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>>24358017
45k

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>>24358017
She's alive

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>>24357742
I want to believe this rrat but ricohet to other chuubas+mika doesnt fit your rrat. Sorry

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>>24358017
>songing again

that my autism onion cat, okey?

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>>24358017
rrat: Now that all the top holos are out for some time, Cover told the lazy fuckers to strat streaming to keep the brand image, this will be confirmed on 19th because that's the day when Ayame will stream again

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>>24358066
Is it sad that ARS is almost equivalent to JPY?

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>>24358077
What about this>>24357982 one?

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>>24358004
Songs

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>>24358017
holy shit i missed aqua so much

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>>24358077
>mika has rrat about her menhera make the boi feel uncomfortable
>chinkfugos attack her too

Here's your answer

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>>24358004
HoloEN channel doesn't do anything. Plus songs

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>>24357887
>>24357919
HoloEN declining with Luxiem inclining can literally be explained by occam's razor in which the decline of HoloEN is just the result of the gura novelty slowly wearing off over time and the Vox rise is because of them pandering into china and getting the untapped fujo market there its as simple as that
Sometimes the simplest explanation is always the answer and not bot/viewfarm or culling mental gymnastics conspiracy

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>>24358053
No outfit buffs too

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>>24358184
100% poll participation in less than 2 mins

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>>24358015
t. frenchie seachink

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>>24358099
Above all else, Aqua is a Company Woman

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you should know well by now to not respond to people calling him milord, you dumb motherfuckers

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>>24357982
>Bot literally subs to that fucker's YT channel
>Same name
>Same Discord group
>Same pfp
>1 or 2 shitposters on this board suddenly try to damage control and defend the french
Really makes you think

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>>24358184
>comparing 2 and a half years chuuba with almost a year chuuba growth

whatever you say sisters

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>>24358099
>he lacks the critical information
Ayame will start streaming wont start streaming this month and will maybe come back next month at the earliest

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>>24358017
Her recent karaoke :
3/21 20,182
3/30 23,303 (guerrilla)

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>>24358126
that doesn't make sense
holoEN have way more songs than NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

Aqua singing
Can she beat Vox?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>24358269
Anon asked official channel difference

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>>24358266
Prepare Vox porn pics,boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358184
>still no graph showed
ogey

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>>24358099
That should be, the timing are always too impeccable with these things

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like this anon is just baiting us to check out NijiEN's official channel to boost the search algo.

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Here, ill just post the current time loop now
we don't need hundreds of these posts spamming up the thread

>ask about why kobo is banned
>indogs say its targeted on IDs and blame the zhangs, and to a lesser degree, flips
>other sea will say its not them, but indogs themselves who are vtuber antis
>people say its not targeted as random people/2views were also attacked
>reveal spambots to be french trolls
>screenshots will be posted to show relations to discord and jv
>people then say sea/zhangs must have hired them
>people then post that the spammers are trolls originating from jv, the french 4chan, basically anons and not some organized collective group you can hire.
>people deflect, saying that the group would have no reason to attack vtubers
>people then explain about jv and how troll groups work; to do whatever they want to for fun and for attention
>deflection continues, rinse and repeat

tell me what im missing

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Lamy slot!

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>>24358120
They found kobo is biggest target, if one is success why not ban more high ccv holos?
But heres another rrat from me
>ban kobo so she doesnt stream during lazulight annivessary (it flopped tho)

[Anonymous No.]

>Shion streamed yesterday
>Aqua streams today
MANJIGUMI RISE UP
THEY'LL HOLD THE LINE

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>>24358269
Niji has 5. Holo has 4

[Anonymous No.]

what's the excuse now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358420
Gura's harem rise up.

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>>24358392
They should of went for the former twitch members if they wanted big targets.

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>>24358476
Wow impressive, how does Vox graph look like?

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>>24358380
You're missing
>Suddenly deflection and damage control
in this very thread about how it was not the french but some imaginary individual larping as french to attack VTubers

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>>24358476
here's your (you), you can leave now

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>>24358420
tomorrow is ojou stream for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358533
wormy

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>>24358269
Ngl, niji debut songs are kino, thanks mafumafu for writing DCL tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358420
>>24358562
I understand. Gen 2 Collab soon.

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>>24358476

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>>24358542
no excuse? I guess you are finally realizing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358533
worm-like
invalid to be place on tally as always

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>>24358603
Wtf is that

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358627
CHINESE
BULL
WORM

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>>24358235
Dont forget
>there has been a recent incline of china/indo/sea shitflingging and false flagging ever since the first bot attack
>It falseflagging suddenly came to a halt a few threads ago when some anon pointed out that some of the frenchies might be here and might the the ones falsflagging
>Suddenly some "anons" start defending and deflecting the blame from the french group claiming that they are innocent and are just being used as scapegoats by the supposed china/sea/indo posters here

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>>24358627

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>>24358604
see >>24358603 and think

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>>24358476
gura is clearly being culled while vox is clearly being boosted by viewfarms /s

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>>24358476
>Most subscribed Vtuber playing a buff game
>Still loses
LMAO

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>>24358603
10 min incline as always. Disqualified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358480
No, it has to be youtube because recent yt update is suck

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>>24358476
>ccv cope is gone
>sc cope is gone
>vod views cope is gone
what's left?

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>>24358603
Disqualified from the en tally. I told you

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>>24358652
What is the chance they are here?

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>>24358109
It isn't, ARS is at least 200 per dollar, yen is 128. Don't pay attention to the "official" argentine numbers, they are artificial

[Anonymous No.]

>Post graph
>Full turbo deflection mode
Every single time

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>>24358017
>Aqua streaming
Damn, this basically confirms the Rinko account as fake
They probably got a lot of donators for what's it worth though

[Anonymous No.]

>only holoen gets culled for some reason while only nijien gets viewfarmed/botted for some reason
why doesnt the cull somehow magically affect nijien?

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>>24355784
what happens to the claim that Nijisanji is the most popular in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358380
they didnt find shit on the discord regarding vtubers, they just shared the info(on discord) which one frenchie faggot is using on vtubers
thats what ive heard ....... here .....

[Anonymous No.]

>chink worm

[Anonymous No.]

>Post better numbers
>Cope deflection
Every single time

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>>24358751
the imaginary cull and viewfarm worm cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358817
That was true until the first half of 2021

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>>24358780
Nijikeks refuse to believe that their graphs are bullshit. The best is how almost every time you can predict them with utmost accuracy.
>Instant waiting room recovery
>Viewer drop into instant incline
>Viewers bleed the moment they peak and it doesn’t stop until the stream ends
>Start shitposting to deflect from it
The cycle never ends

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>>24358751
Dick reveal stream. He's not yet revealing ultimate endgame

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>>24358603
Looks like a normal stream with network/technical issues between 00:04 and 00:16

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358780
They always ignore the graph and change the subject with other things

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>>24358840
still refuses to explain vox's graph, ok bait got it

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>>24358772
>What is the chance they are here?
A lot since discord anon hinted that they might start damage controlling ever since they got found out and half the member supposedly doxxed

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>>24358840
still on the tally fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358903
No they don't.
See>>24358885

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>>24358017
holy shit i miss her so much welcome back onyyyyyoooonn

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358872
Maybe you have some evidence to support your accusations other than lol funny charts?

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>>24358795
Wait until December youtube update again

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358885
Instant doubling recovery room, 10 mins peak and worm decline each perfect 5 mins looks normal to you?

[Anonymous No.]

This is the reason btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358927
Don't change the subject zhang. Explain why always incline at the beginning and the drop as always do every single time

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>>24358913
>>24358920
>gee how come my oshi is getting lower views while the fujos oshi are getting bigger views surely its not because they are pandering to a new market but because youtube is secretly somehow trying to destroy holoen by culling them

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>>24358948
so the update somehow magically only affects holoen and nobody else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358985
>they somehow memory hole this day

[Anonymous No.]

I guess people weren't kidding when they said Holostars are low tier Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359009
>>24358927
>>24359037

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>>24358985
so this why they kill kobo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359009
because vox streamed that day and mori and gura didn't you imbecile

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359007
Why should I?
Your opponent is this guy not me>>24358885

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>>24358751
>vod views cope is gone
How?

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>>24358795
idk holoID gen 3 is somehow unaffected too they have daily growing even the hag has at least 1k daily while every one even the JP can have an entry week without growing

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>>24359067
Stop samefagging zhang

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>>24359064
so, somehow Gura and Mori are better... because they didn't stream?

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, just a few falseflagger is enough to cause infighting?

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>>24359007
>Explain why always incline at the beginning and the drop as always do every single time
nta but my take is that:
>fujos check it out
>some stay but most leave stream cause either they finished flicking the bean or its not to their taste
im only basing it on asmr streams though but for sure they are using some sort of farm bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

The thread went to shit again thanks to zhangs and fujos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359138
did you really edit mori's views? kinda pathetic

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>>24359064
And your still wondering why vox is somehow magically inclining?

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>>24359059
>Lain that low
jesas. is it just apex dragging her down?

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>>24359037
all hololive but holoID are affected

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>>24358751
Ain't that sad? EN male vtubers have to prostitute themselves to fujos to survive in the market.

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>>24359093
>gura 1,328k
>vox 997k
it's pretty close this week

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358476
7k anniversary?
This is indie level number.
What's our excuse, lazulight fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359060
Answer me anon
How come the supposed cull only affects HoloEN and nobody else?
Or are you that french group and only shitposts and false flag here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359183
If this happen once or two I can understand, this shit always happen with luxiem and few noctyx since march everytime

[Anonymous No.]

It still amazes me that this thread is stuck in an eternal Vox time loop despite him having <10k median.
The new CN toy clearly has pretty short legs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358978
Peak was on minute 25 anon, plenty of other stream like chammers' stream the other day also peaked on the same amount of time. The interval isn't even a t 5 minute. It varies somewhere between 8-12 minute which could be caused by whatever content he's doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359252
>pic
>Noel
>Marine
>Mel
>Rush*a
>Choco

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359267
Unironically because Susan hates Holobox
Jumping between same corpo streams=bad. Having an account spamming about cp=good.
We already know how fucking retarded Youtube is

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358819
the discord channel itself may not be the troll group, but it confirmed that a member or members in the discord were the spam accounts, as they shared the same name, and were following the spam accounts and the spam accounts were following them back. French anons then explained that they were from JV, and how the spam account names were portmanteaus of JV memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>24356810
They really hate vox

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359246
I was assuming that only HoloEN was affected since they are really vocal about that
What about the other vtuber groups are they affected as well? Im honestly curious as to why only Hololive seems to be affected by this

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359310
Fujos bring it up all the time along with HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359310
>there's no market for nijiEN males
>they are on debut buff
>they are playing buff games
>they are streaming a lot
>sc doesn't matter
>they are spamming celebrations
>only has a <10k median (which could put them above most holos and nijis)
>???

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358380
You're missing the part where nobody asked

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359310
I blame EN only fags and their oshis' reclines

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359258
>Vox's peak doesn't even reach Gura's lowest post-precessing point
Why is this supposed to be impressive again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359267
Answer me zhang, how come you ignore the cull everytime we show the graph but when we show you the luxiem graph you always try to change the subject.like CCP trying to get social points

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359327
Hmm, seems like you are a clipfag, It still doesn't make my point.

[Anonymous No.]

on this (every) episode of numbers:
>A: wow gura vod getting views how exciting and unprecedented
>B: ah i see you werent talking about vox, btw vox
>A: worm graphs
>B: cope seethe A, vox better, big incline, everyone else big recline forever
tune in next thread for more (of the same)!

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359398
t. french seanig zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359416
>cull
What graph lmao?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359310
I mean this is what you get for including EN in this thread your gonna get the retarded EN fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

Somebody delete VPNs please

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359310
oldfag in /#/ knows that vox's numbers will sink once fujos find a new target to feast their thirst on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359458
how does that even work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359327
As Vtubers, they don't do that

[Anonymous No.]

>numbers thread
>can't discuss numbers that make holos look bad or underperforming

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359459
Si trying ot change the answer as always. Fujos deserves to Neck themselves and die alone in their fuckimg blood

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359486
i mean thats already a given but what i dont get is the mental gymnastics /#/ has to pull in explaining why one group is declining and the other reclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359503
vietnam

[Anonymous No.]

That's why I'm telling you Anons, especially the tally anon, to not include luxiem/noctyx anymore just so that the fujos avoid this place

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359503
A zhang pretending to be french just to false flag, and zhangs are also seanig anyway even if we use different terms to refer to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359525
when you edit or nitpick numbers yeah, you can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359511
is that... supposed to be good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359387
dont forget about the imaginary cull that only somehow affects hololive and nobody else

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359437
Fujos and chinks were are mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
>please, only show holos, I don't like when they are being mogged
not your hugbox

[Anonymous No.]

The enemy is always the Zhangs, stay focused anons

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
not your hugbox friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359528
Coping mechanism in relation to the decline in popularity of chuubas they care about. I don't really mind them doing so, but they need to stop dragging the whole thread into their delusions for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359594
Sora won yesterday though :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359368
idk abut other but holos has their own page https://holo.poi.cat/
a lot of top holos are taking a week or more for growing when they used to have daily growing

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359602
nah theyre too dumb to realize that their falling for the classic zhang deflection where they pin it on an unrelated group like the french discord group

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359578

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
>>>/Holololive Global/

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine if you guys could just ignore bait, then we wouldn't have this argument every thread, the fujo/falseflaggers won't answer your questions anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359559
They get viewers just playing games and singing

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359310
They moved on from Msyta for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
I will tolerate them if they didn't do any number wizardry.
Also, not your fucking hugbox

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359677
>Imagine if you guys could just ignore bait
>implying they wont just shitpost and self reply and still drown out the thread
you are one naive anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
I agree, also discard HoloEN streams too because their audience here is as annoying or even more so than those fujos. hopefully they all fuck off from the threads for good

[Anonymous No.]

cull shitposting aside, here's some explanations for this graph
1. bae with the higher waiting room end up with a lower ccv
all multi-pov watcher at the start of the stream got counted toward towa's ccv because she started the stream before bae. about 1.5k.
2. bae with sawtooth pattern
more flagged users watching bae. slower ramp-up because of how long it takes for some watchers to get counted.
3. the sawtooth is actually smoothing out over time. by the end of 2nd hour it's almost the same for both towa and bae.
likely that all the live viewer that can be verified in realtime have been verified by this point. makes me think that maybe the "fix" that yt added to the realtime verification may have a type of timeout so it doesn't continue to churn and crash into the barcoding pattern. they get processed much later when the have spare compute hours probably.

additional note about the live ccv and why it matters to a certain extent
yt clearly care about this number. likely because it's used by their recommendation algo. and that is what drives impressions for ongoing stream. basically the tourist magnet. apex is tourist central for jp hours so it make sense that over time, bae's pov will get less apex tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
not your hugbox go to reddit if you want your safespace

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359720

[Anonymous No.]

Can we just make a numbers thread for JP numbers only?
Not like cripples will be getting many global golds anyway, so it doesn't matter and we could finally have a decent thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359744
graph seems kinda wormy to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359744
no one likes bae, mumei should've streamed her pov instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358017
probably not, her singing streams aren't usually big numbers, but it will could take top spot from vox, thought its at the same time Kanata is streaming so it could split things. I think all of it would lose to a good king apex stream though.

[Anonymous No.]

It was pretty fortunate that Hololive chose to graduate HoloCN and move out from China. Clearly, it wasn't worth trying to entertain mainland bugs and their toxic market. In return, Hololive ahs the goodwill of both the Taiwanese and the western countries which made them popular worldwide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359744
>because of how long it takes for some watchers to get counted.
Do we have any idea of how long it takes to get counted and if your location influences it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359846
Mumei will never stream her POV in a FPS Collab

[Anonymous No.]

Can we make a numbers thread for ID numbers only?

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo being banned feels like a boon. You don't have her fans here anymore and she stays at irrelevancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359525
>cherrypicking is discussion now
fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359796
I understand your sentiment, but those never works since you can't enforce what can be posted and you end up with shitposts 24/7 either way

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359868
between 5 seconds and 30 hours
watch history length is the main factor. longer watch history, longer it takes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359650
>members linked to spam account
>it's totally unrelated guys
t. french seanig zhang

[Anonymous No.]

So, that one small corpo chuuba that tried to trademark "yukkuri"... got a "warning" from her company :
https://mobile.twitter.com/CoyuLive/status/1525782222946848768

I assume people were still mad about it because 14 hours later they posted a followup that they were still "examining the legal aspects" and that they "cannot make the decision to terminate the contract as of now":
https://mobile.twitter.com/CoyuLive/status/1525995621400051712

She's probably fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359908
Also for a different numbers thread of JP and another for EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358777
bruh I went to Argentina in 2003 and it was like 3 peso for a dollar what the fuck happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359855
What goodwill does Hololive have? Even Luxiem is more popular in Taiwan nowadays that they even appear in mainstream news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359954
ZUN got involved. Made Touhou trend a little on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359980
You got a link or a clip?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359954
Is there a reason why she trademarks it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359720
no, none should be disregarded from the daily gold tally, but the en gold tally should be fucked off to another thread.

[Anonymous No.]

The thing about the males graphs is normal graphs tends to steadily incline to a peak like what Sora showed yesterday when she climbed up slowly from 23k to 58k. Not streams where it jumps to 50k instantly the moment the stream went up. Niji 3Ds does that then slowly goes stagnates around 70k. Marinw's concert started high like it too with 36k then it went above and beyond 100k in the end. It happens 3 times for Niji 3D, it wasnt a coincidence, neither does the worms from most male EN streams.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359940
>watch history length is the main factor. longer watch history, longer it takes.
For a multi billion dollar company youtube is so retarded with their algorithms
>>24359954
>trademarking yukkuri
Thats stupid thats like trademarking wojack or memefaces, Why the fuck did no one warn her

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360048
Why would Yagoo dox one of his talents?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359980
Been there, done that. Hololive went mainstream in Taiwan after they rejected China.

[Anonymous No.]

Collab ended
>Bae 35k
>Towa 73k
Now the wait for post processing

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359545
Soon maybe
After they're focusin stream on b2 instead of yt

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359954
>Trademarking yukkuri
that's a suicide move

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359980
Hololive also got on news in Taiwan before (Coco for example) and some members got those birthday bus in Taiwan multiple times already. Gura's translated karaoke clips still got big numbers from TW fans too

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360048
MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
man pekors is just build different

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359908
/warkop/

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359980
newfag sister Hololive is almost a religion in taiwan. Literal parades and mainstream news multiple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360007
From Touhou side here. What ZUN did was actually trying to trademark yukkuri before her so she can't do it. Usually he doesn't care about copyright stuffs like this which should tell you how big of a deal it was

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359855
falseflage aside get more worldwide visibility is why they are doing holomeet

[Anonymous No.]

can't believe nijiniggers still defends those luxiem/noctyx faggots after seeing that they're the embodiment of everything wrong about vtubing. Even vshojos are better than those fuckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359931
chinkfujos wins big time this week, no one can bully them anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360177
Reminds me of the idiots who wanted to trademark reaction videos kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360194
I wouldn't defend them if the accusations actually holds water anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360177
Wait so its possible to trademark a meme? I remember that katy perry once tried to trademark the left shark meme but was denied, Is it different in japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359798

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360236
not trademark, they were trying to do a process patent. basically owning the meta

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360037
https://mobile.twitter.com/Pino_layer/status/1526003754662711296

Found a tweet that seems to be the qrd -

> The Yukkuri issue : The Current Situation
> Yuzuha announces trademark registration of "Yukkuri" on May 15, after the original copyright period had just passed.
> Kaiwaimin(Touhou fans?) are outraged and start a protest movement.
> "Tashiro gun is shot and Yuzuha's server goes down" no idea wtf this expression means.
> Touhou's master ZUN makes his move.
> Hiroyuki(Hiromoot?), Takucchi, other famous folks join in (YOU ARE HERE).

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360246
I mean, I'm not even talking about numbers, cull, bots or anything, but most of them are literally tribalfaggers and malewhores

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360236
I think they were patenting it which is a different and I forgot if there was a chance that they could actually do it or if they actually did it but the backlash was too much and they abandoned it but they never were able to recover from the backlash and from the last clip I saw of them they are struggling to get to a million views unlike before

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360207
No anon, Anykara wins big this week, since many of Hololive top dogs are out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359980
pander both market will be a problen a long term
pander both market will be a problem in long term
anyway fujos and luxien won't hear the warning until blow up on their face

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360423
Wrestling broke you that much, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360246
>being more of a whore than actual whores
>pandering to bugmen
>shameless clickbaits
>milking superchats (not the fun kind)
>toxic community
>viewfarming
>milking no effort buff streams

and many more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360256
The original source of the meme is Touhou so ZUN can probably do it. He just didn't so far because he wanted to encourage fanworks and stuff without the chilling effect of legal issues.

This is one of those moments where the lack of copyright is exploited by one or two vultures, which just incentivizes the side wanting stronger copyright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360194
>Nijiniggers = Chaos Cult worshiper
Got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360048
Will he do one for milord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360037
Yukkuris are part of her show/skit.
And since they are used publicly (think memes or wojaks) she probably just assumed no one thought of trademarking it.

Which is not how the world works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359954
Did they pull a WACTOR as well? Is that her real name?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360390
>Hiroyuki
Yep. People tend to forget he owns 2ch too. He interviewed ZUN a couple of years ago
https://touhougarakuta.com/article/specialtaidan_zun_hiroyuki_8
translation at
https://www.reddit.com/r/touhou/comments/dkhn5i/mr_zun_resigns_niconicos_craze_what_is_yukkuri/

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360394
>literally tribalfaggers
thats 80% of everyone in the thread thats why they resort to mental gymnastics the moment their chuuba is doing shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360394
They're definitely not the ideal image I would like for a chuuba but those are irrelevant in a numbers thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359954
>>24298459
>>24302133
>>24302245
tik tok nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360423
It would look bad if Nijisanji list the second half of this month

[Anonymous No.]

well, that was fast
pretty sure this will do some numbers
https://youtu.be/yhIK092By7o

[Anonymous No.]

>>24359954
>checking with lawyers to make sure her firing is kosher
She's toast. Pissing off one of the most autistic communites in the whole world, what could she even expect?

[Anonymous No.]

Do we have any good indication of membership numbers for each holo/niji? I'd be interested to see who performs well in memberships compared to their ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360465
>The original source of the meme is Touhou so ZUN can probably do it
Wait so if im understanding this correctly in theory moot/hiroshimoot could have trademark memes coming from 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358786
? Rinko

[Anonymous No.]

>>24358603
Totally normal graph, nothing to see, please move along and do not ask questions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360585
Members data is hard since we don't have solid stats.
But iirc the last time someone attempted to calculate Gura's member stats she had estimated 17k members

Vox on the other hand had around estimated 60-70k members

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360544
Imagine Holo clips doing numbers when Niji clips are getting 100k left and right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360645
heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360585
We will never have accurate numbers for that, but Gura had over 1k members spamming member message today

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360496
Damn if thats the case that girl is fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360464
The only accusations you've listed that's relevant here is the viewfarming one anon. Maybe you have something to show other funny looking charts?
I never attack nor defend vei/sio/rushia etc here either based on the other points

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360527
Ok I'm too dumb to read, any easier way to understand this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360658
post'em

[Anonymous No.]

哈哈哈哈大陆狗用台湾去赢话题

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360544
>The stupid inflection of oh no
>spreading to JP
Please gods why Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360743
If I do, are you going lick your own lick and stream it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360717
Seems like the OP is insinuating that Anycolor did not trademark all the characters they have, so you could "technically" take the name and imagery a lesser known chuuba like Etna Crimson because Niji didn't didn't bother to trademark her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360803
I just wanna see numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360585
The best you can do is collect the likes and/or votes on memberships posts and polls, which is really just a very imperfect floor. For the two I have membership of, 1 Month ago IRyS poll got 3.7k votes, and 1 Month old Ina post 5.4k likes. Likes are always much less than poll votes (50% or more).

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360531
What are the odds of Niji actually winning May? Hololive only needs five more golds to win by default, but most of the heavyweights are out of comission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360685
well i'm not necessarily talking about numbers here, just baffled why you are willing to defend them so vehemently here while they and their community are arguably the worst shit to happen on vtubing culture. Oh and feel free to attack those other people. fags here do that anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360848
0%

[Anonymous No.]

Did cover ever release their annual financial report this year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360848
Won't happen, their best chance is the month they do that baseball thing because they have like a week or so of almost automatic wins and just generally more hype around their company than any other time during the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360848
No chance, manjigumi is holding the line for cover until the rest of the month

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360874
it's paywalled

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360606
according to Japanese laws, probably.
But they're unenforcable outside of Japan so he probably won't bother trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360848
they might actually do it since most of the heavy hitters are on vacation/rest but i wouldnt count on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360851
Because if you let people accuse of shit that actually matters to people you don't happen to like or agree with, eventually people would do the same to the people that you actually do care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360902
Oh yeah that reminds me, Miko said she's going to hold a big WWE2K tourney sometime in summer.
So that means we're going to have NijiKoshien 2022 vs Holo WWE this summer for yearly gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361093
Won't they do Minecraft Summer like last year? I imagine that would be a bigger deal than Miko running a WWE simulator.

[Anonymous No.]

holo bday numbers
next bday
may 18 chloe
may 20 ina
may 23 roboco
may 25 ymd

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360918
Didn't someone pay for the report already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361021
if you are unironically okay and agreeing with what those faggots do to vtubing then you're part of the problem. Think for a second before watching them and reaching for your vagina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361129
It'll be a bigger event, just like sports festival would in autumn/winter. But key here is single pov anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361093
july holo wwe
august holokoshien

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361129
Anon, Holo WWE is much bigger than MC these days since it's something new.

[Anonymous No.]

> defends Luxiem in /#/
> posts gura clips getting popular
> posts gore in /NijiEN/
what goes on in the head of a schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361211
Oh. Uh. Hrm.
Madness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361093
HoloWWE tournament sounds like flop. People watch it for the laugh, not competitive scene

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360918
Is vt so cheap that one person can't even pay for a financial report?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361179
>if you are unironically okay and agreeing with what those faggots do to vtubing
meds, not sure where you even got that idea considering I basically said the opposite.
Either way, this is the numbers thread. Not the numbers of only chuubas that I like, agree, or okay with thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361315
paying anime girls = good
paying jews = bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361361
what about the jewish anime girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361361
whats the stance on jewish anime girls?
asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/kishidotemma/status/1526032437305716737
Holostars merch for their birthday

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361412
Oh no no no nijimerch

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361388
>>24361396
that depends on if they're cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361412
Cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361511
local printing shop will do

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360256
No lol, which make what she did even more sly since she indirectly trademark yukkuri through her content
It's basically not "I own the concept of this meme" but "I make and own this type of content that contain the meme". Now that sound convincing because she MADE those videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361412
That looks really nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361412
Why are even Holostars getting good merch anyway? Just how much money is Cover wasting on them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361412
Is that a fucking towel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361633
No one gets left behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361641
Yep, you can also get a pin, an emblem, and a little plush

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361412
Good for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361716
Good merchs. I personally welcome merchs with actual usability

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361704
"Saving everyone" is one of the stupidest business strategies I've ever heard. It's naive to the point where it's comical.
Does he think he is an anime protag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361211
no idea what prompts people to do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361836
>Does he think he is an anime protag?
No, he is a father.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361716
HOLY FCK
可愛い

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361836
>Does he think he is an anime protag?
well he has the money, power and charisma to be one of those "old mentor" types.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361836
Anon, stars has been profitable since probably early 2021. There's nothing wrong with diversifying the portfolio even if not all investments have the same levels of return. Also, Cover isn't exactly short of cash to invest at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361836
> You too can be saved anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361932
Right, charisma alone is not going to bring money. Instead of wasting resources, he could have invested in other more profitable ventures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361633
What are you even talking about? There's no money lost because Holo merch is very overpriced for its quality, as it tends to be with idol merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361836
Cover do well by saving ID and not abandoning them tho...
Not like a certain someone who abandon 3 branch because they're "unprofitable"
Even though its their main management fault to never put other branch in exposure

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361211
>>24361848
i keep telling you guys that its the french trolls trying to muddy the waters and damage control but everytime everyone calls me a schizo
this pattern of posting suddenly went up shortly before the bot attcks

[Anonymous No.]

>>24362012
You do know that merch is incredibly cheap to produce right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361836
maybe playing the long game like with the indo market

[Anonymous No.]

>>24360843
I guess I'll add my memberships onto this. Ame has a 1 month old poll with 4.6k votes, Gura has a post with 4.4k likes, Kiara has a post with 1.7k likes, Mumei has a post with 2.4k likes and Kronii has a post with 2.9k likes.
Honestly I'm kinda surprised by how low Mumei's members numbers are compared to her ccv, but maybe her members just don't engage as much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24362195
>maybe her members just don't engage as much.
Maybe, Hoomans are weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>24361971
Cash is not endless anon. Anykara fell into the same trap before, at least they're doing better by actually investing in stronger branches and going IPO. The same can't be said for Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24362172
Right, like now Kobo is banned, halting all of her momentum and likely pushing her to irrelevancy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24362237
They only make it after it's ordered. They lose $0 on every piece of merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>24362226
I would not doubt that since there is apparently significant amount of overlap between haatons and hoomans
Did haachama and mumei ever do a collab?

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>>24362284
Don't engage with the baitposter. They do this every time stars get brought up, and now they're mixing in Anycolor's IPO and fucking NijiEN too.

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>>24362266
>Right, like now Kobo is banned, halting all of her momentum
remember the last time she got banned? at this rate getting banned by bots might be the new meta for numberfags

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>>24362292
Yes, with Bae, in Minecraft.

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>>24361836
Doesn't Cover currently have a surplus of money compared to how fast they are expanding? Axing/under funding a profitable branch when you're in that situation seems pointless.

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>>24362292
Minecraft. They also had a little college girl war.

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>>24362341
>chaos does a collab between hoomans and haatons
kek i applaud the one who actually planned and made the collab

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>>24362331
And she will get banned again. Simple as that, that's why I said Kobo might lose her fast growth. But she doesn't deserve it anyway.

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>>24362445
why doesn't she?

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>>24362266
>halting
Halting is just temporary anon
Kobo eternal

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>>24362445
Oh i know she will since those apparently those french trolls are focusing their attacks on her but Im just waiting for the incoming shitstorm once that discord dox anon finds the info on the last 2 and gives it to that incel who had a grudge on them which may or may not lead to another brandon clark

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>>24362266
Even on kikebook people still active talking about kobo, she is now one of the vtuber that got many recognition by the Indonesians

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>>24362541
>>24362577
did she mentioned in the national news like last time?

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>>24362195
It's also very possible that Ame has more engagement because of how often she interacts with her members.
Or would that lead to less engagement?
I honestly don't know.

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>>24362266
Oh boy, you're in for a rude awakening

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>>24362616
*get mentioned

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>>24362563
Yeah good on them actually, at least Vox is safe from her.

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>>24362616
huh? when?

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>>24362634
Anon, what rude awakening when she is clearly being affected by the contsant bans?

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>>24362654
during the first bot shitstorm some anons were posting links that talked about kobo and mista/milka? (i forgot the name of the niji talent that got bot attacked) being talked about in indo and taiwanese media and another anon claimed that she was mentioned on a flip radio station
although it was just a passing mention but this apparently got kobo some support by the indo youtuber scene

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>>24362718
Anon-chama.... Hololive is already irrelevant.
Kobo bans wouldn't do anything. You can't take anything away from a company that is already insolvent.

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>>24362746
And now, silence since her 5 minutes of fame is over.

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>>24362778
Yeah, I know, but these people here think Kobo is going to bounce back when she is getting nothing these days like her 1st ban.

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>>24362779
Anon...>>24362577

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>>24362718
>>24362778
>>24362810
Now kiss

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>>24362810
nta but i think they are just indo trying to shill her as the next gura slayer im betting that she's gonna get anya numbers by the end of the month

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>>24362871
>Next Gura slayer
We already had a Gura slayer and his name is Vox

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>>24362871
Yeah, probably a little bit higher, but it's rather funny to see them prop up Kobo like that. Kobo getting banned is probably some sort of karma.

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>>24362861
The fact that youtube is slow to respond to her ban unlike last time will actually impact her momentum unlike last time and add to the fact than bans can screw you over due to youtubes retarded recommendation algorithm is already a huge hurdle for her in the long run

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>>24362949
I doubt she can gain back her growth anytime. It does look like a lot of ID peeps are getting tired of her already.

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>>24362927
Lets be real I hate hololive as much as you but lets get real Vox is just a male Kobo with china instead of indonesia as his base and the only reasonable one that actually has a chance of becoming a gura slayer is KING

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>>24363000
Yeah its clear not even a shoutout from that indo guy that gets 80k views can save her

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>>24358235
>>24358652

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>>24363058
I don't think that is even that popular amongst the ID YouTubers though, there are way more relevant YouTubers these days. He is quite overrated like Pewdiepie.

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>>24363092
>not this

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>>24363058
Yeah it's probably because Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as their successful JP livers

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>>24363140

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>>24363092
Woah, that sounds crazy though. How much of that theory is true?

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>>24363180
I agree

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>>24363180
>t.frenchink

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>>24363180
I dis-agree

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>>24363242
pardun?

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THREAD IS DEAD, VTUBERS ARE DECLINING!

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>>24360585
I remember using ARS to check Mystas membership back when he said he had 8600 members and his posts had average of 3k likes

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>>24363297
SELL SELL SELL

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DEAD TO THE FRENCH!!

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>>24363298
If that's true then people like Gura must have a fuck ton of members.

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how much ARS to buy holo membership?

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>>24360843
>>24363298
If these are both true, then IRyS have over 9k and Ina over 12k members

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>>24363434
Your IRyS number is poll votes, not likes. Estimates usually put IRyS at ~5k and Ina at ~10k so I guess that's close

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>>24363372
I wouldnt doubt it seeing as her members only streams are sometimes vox-lite asmr

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>>24363427
50 ARS for most I think

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>>24363372
>>24363434
only time I remember an EN talking about membership numbers was I remember when Amelia was doing an SC reading she happened to notice she had exactly 666 new/returning member messages over the course of 2 days since the last time she had looked at SCs

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>>24363361
Need frog version for zhang pasta

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>>24363498
Doubt that, her member ASMR only ha around 10k VODs

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>>24363485
Yeah, those look more "normal". I really want to know how many members Gura and watame have.

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>>24363603
im talking about the content im not sure how often it happens since im not a member but i check her member streams on when it pops up on discord or facebook

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>>24363159
It feels like an all-out war

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>>24363634
>watame
doesnt she gift those membersheep like crazy? i remember checking her last week and they were giving it away like candy

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>>24363704
Yeah once those get added it'll be pointless to try to estimate how many they have

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>>24363704
Yes, watamates give those out like they were free.

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>>24360585
I have a Fauna membership and her problem is she has one of the most bare bones memberships by far, she does NOTHING with it except for post membership stream frames that is all. Those average about 750~ likes or so. Amelias membership stream frames are usually 1.2k~ range. Assuming similar engagement that'd be her around 60% of Amelias members and Amelia probably has anywhere from 7k to 10k

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You all are overestimating YT memberships

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>>24363704
I wouldn't be surprised if she actually has the most membersheeps now. Didn't it get to the point where they actually had no more people to accept gifted memberships at one point?

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>>24363729
>>24363735
are watamates the richest group per capita in hololive? cause i swear its not just one or two people that gives them out like candy

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>>24363792
You think? I'm tempted to member Spiffing Brit and check out If he has any members posts that I can check engagement on since we know his membership numbers for a fact.

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>>24363864
What's his membership number again?