/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Vegetarian /meat/head Edition

Previous: >>23905111

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

CURRENT GOAL:
- Add /ehe~/ on the map
- Survive

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/pcclg/?: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>23991695
having the bizarro /vt/ there might make people think this is a bizarro thread. might be helpful for keeping the thread alive, or giving us ideas, but just be warned of the possibility.

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>>23992262
If worst comes to pass and we get flooded by shitposters looking to shitpost, we can just start a new thread.

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>>23982608
Looks pretty good to me, although admittedly I'm not part of the characterisation-deciding process. If I have to give feedback, I would say when the events are relative to each other chronologically can be a bit hard to follow (mostly the two flashbacks). There're also some minor formatting and grammar issues, which I think is because the two main parts of the writing are done at different times.

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>>23991695
P-Peace, nanora?

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>>23991695
>Vegetarian /meat/head
Actually not a Bizarro thing
Those with Komma-chan as their patron deity are more plant than flesh.
While living mainly on just squash, corn, and cacao is acceptable

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>>23997969
Then what do they do with the sacrificed humans? Do they just don't partake in ritual consumption of human flesh?

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>>23997969
carnivorous plants exist, and being depictions of our deities, they definitely would consume flesh. i'd say a better example would be /meat/risuners. they aren't as cannibalistic but they still engage in the sexual side of /meat/.

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>>23994433
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>>23998833
Just because youre herbivorous doesnt take away your deicidal tendencies

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>>23999974
We just need to find some plant-themed vtubers...

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>>24000104

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>>24000104

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>>23991911
Oh mighty WARanoan. Grant me the wisdom once again. What kind of blades are you into? Do you like the heavy swords that hit harder or do you like daggers that can be concealed and used with dexterity? What kind of material makes a good melee weapon and what style of weaponry do you prefer? 20d8k

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>>24000597
Read the pic filename. Not actually WARanon, just helping an old buddy get some shut eye. He is getting on in years.

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>>24000745
O shit I didnt even notice. Poor WARanon he really is getting old after all. I hope his retirement goes out in one big bloody war and he dies in combat like a true hero.

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>>24000926
WARanon festival, IKZ!

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>>24000926
A nuclear world war you say? That can be arranged, give us like 50 years or so.

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>>24001092
possible rrat. What if WARanon was the true hero allong fighting all the schizos and when he dies, /nasa/ will fall?

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>>24001259
Eh, he's just another human. Worst comes to worse we can just bake some hot pockets and employ some jannies, place them at our border. It's really easy to control divine beings if you know how to.

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>watches clip of risu stream ive yet to see
>apparantely all girls just lay naked in bed and turn on AC
>proceeds to watch the rest of VOD
to be fair if i lived in indonesia i would probably do the same. Anyway while I listen to risu talk about being naked with ice cream i guess i should finish the meat story.

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I'm up early today, so good morning.

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>>24006978
G'day

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Debating if I want /nasa/ to adopt an orphan mammoth found in the wild.

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>>24009527
mammoth chuuba when

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>>24006978
Morning!

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isn't bizzarro /vt/ just /tv/?

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>>24011982
Holy shit, kronies are back!

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>>24012173
Sorry to burst your bubble but while I am a kronie, I don't write for inifnity, or at least have not previously

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>>24011982
Sorry to bust your kneecaps, but can't have a kronie escaping again. now write some lore!

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I guess /infinity/ gave up on the project because timeloops?

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>>24013297
they were being tardwrangled by their representative into it, without him interest seems to have died down

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>>24013611
So what happened to their rep?

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>>24014132
he's a flip, so he probably sang "my way" wrong and got shivved

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>>24014218
anon what does that mean

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>>24014317
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_killings

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>>24014351
>Attention to these killings peaked on May 29, 2007, when a 29-year-old karaoke singer was shot dead by a security guard at a bar in San Mateo, Rizal. The guard had complained that the young man's rendition of "My Way" was off-key, but the man refused to stop singing, prompting the guard to pull out a .38-caliber pistol and shoot the man dead.

nigga what

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>>24013297
I wouldn't say /inf/ gave up on it, they just stopped having like half a dozen contributor and have just one or two like most other generals now.

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>>24012283
It's fine, badly written lore is cool too! For every sublime rosebud story there's five of my shitty lore entries.

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I was a Kronie
But then I converted into a /meat/head

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>>24018043
Takeus-chama...

[Anonymous No.]

I hate being busy. I always need time by myself to envision the next scenes. I never really could envision things as still pictures or words. I always envision things moving in motion. I suppose that's why my art is often crap in detail but can work in animation and I always have characters do something before they speak. Its also why me writing round table discussions is always a pain. Because I'm interested in the body language more than words.

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>>24019226
reverse autism

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bump before bed

[Anonymous No.]

What if the world was flat? Not a cube or a sphere, just straight up flat. That would be really cool

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>>24022907
It would fuck up everything, it would not be cool

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>>24022907
We could make an artificial flatworld in 60620 VTE with micro blackholes and shit.

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>>24023022
Ringworlds would be a lot cooler if you ask me
Or perhaps something like a habitat swarm around a dyson swarm

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>>24023065
Pffft that's baby tier, Matrioshka brains is where it's at.

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The world is shaped like an hourglass woman with huge tits and wide hips.

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I AM FREED FROM WAGE SLAVERY AND I AM NO LONGER CONTENT WITH WRITERS BLOCK. OR WORLD BUILDER'S BLOCK!
>>24019226
>>24020463
I have literally the opposite problem, so regular unironic autism. I can visualize scenery and details in any given scene with ridiculous accuracy was I was a wee boy I would twittle a pencil between my fingers and envision the joints of characters moving back and forth as a scene played out, specifically I would slowly pace it back and forth during calm dialouge and begin to accelerate during action scenes or when dialouge was particularily violent/loud/engaging. Have never heard or seen any other person doing this and still do it to this day but lack any of the words to really describe it. I will daydream scenes to play out all day while working but be totally unable to put it down in a doc. It is very enraging, especially when the scenes are things that are very simple comfy moments that actually enlighten certain elements of the characters in subtle ways.

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>>24024627
This is where training has to come in. I sometimes have a hard time putting things to paper because of how quickly the vision fades. Drawing fast and writing fast is a skill that takes years to refine. Yes doing these fast will look like crap when you get them down. Once they're written or drawn you can build from what you have. You can then take time to research what you don't know to eventually bring these things to your vision. The art piece may look completely different from what you initially imagined it, but that's the nature of creating art. Its about what you can do with your ability, not what you want to make. You have to balance time with the skill you have.

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>>24024627
I have neither of those problems, but I end up making art I never end up posting all day instead of writing.

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Do we have to do anything specific to get things added to the lore doc or do we just reply to >23991716 ?
I was thinking of codifying some stuff for /uuu/ that the other sapling and I were talking about the last couple of days

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>>24025961
You just have to anchor. Though if the post is longer than two 4chan posts you may want to use a rentry. Remember to keep your edit codes.

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>>24025961
Just reply to the anchor doc and archiveanon will add stuff in!

[Anonymous No.]

I keep making the same mistake, why do I never save my lore works...

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>>24026833
Now is a good time than ever to make a good habit of pressing Ctrl+S often.

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>>23991716
Sprinkle of /uuu/ lore; any other saplings that want to add/edit feel free, but from the last few days of talking it seems like there was general consensus on these points

>Relationships with immediate neighbors
>/nasa/
Generally positive
They offered to trade us some baked goods
>/who/
Tentative
There's some history between us as nations as well as lore between our deities.
They have requested passage through our forests to be able to travel/trade more directly with /nasa/
>/rrat/
No monks have come down from the mountains to speak with us yet.

>Relationships with other nations
>/meat/
Commercial
Have offered us open trade with any of their goods, but we have no immediate need of anything at the moment.
>/risu/
Friendly (?) with some cultural schisms
Overall /uuu/ has a cultural stigma against what we call "squeebing", due to the very seiso nature of our deity. Despite this, Risuners have expressed an extreme desire to sail to our forrest for a cultural exchange of sorts.
It should be noted that as of the time of this writing, /uuu/ has no docks or naval infrastructure of any kind.

>Sapling biology
Saplings are human-plant hybrids. For now the terms "ent" and "druid" have been used interchangeably.
>Cause
Saplings metamorphose into progressively more and more plant-like beings over time. The change is a side-effect of spending so much time in Fauna's forest, which is catalyzed by the worship and rituals of our deity.
While the forest affects any human that spends sufficient time in it, without active worship it will never reach the levels of physical change displayed in the average sapling anatomy.
>Lifecycle
(picrel)
All saplings start out with their normal human DNA intact. Over time the plant-like changes become more pronounced.
After enough time has passed, the metamorphosis process will diverge. While most all saplings look similar in the start (bark-like skin, greener hair, small protrusions of leaves and branches), once the divergence processes begin, they will turn into something different.
There are categories saplings tend to change into, with some being more common than others. While they primarily continue to exhibit plant-like qualities, some may also begin to display animal-like properties as well (hooves, antlers, extra limbs, etc)
Though currently unverified, there exist legends and myths within the sapling community speaking of chosen saplings turning into kirin, the mortal form of their deity.

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>>23991716
LUKNIGHT LORE SCRAP NORA!
One particular peculiarity of Luknight culture is in the particular way in which the peasantry holds itself, often times with highly dignified and disciplined principles. Many Bunaito farmers and lowborn men will not introduce themselves in the typical fashion of the Hololands, instead choosing to refer to themselves with a knightly title and their family house, as an example, a Lunaito by the name of Dondoro Bonbon might refer to themselves as, "Sir Dondoro of House Bonbon" despite being totally desitute save for a single shack which makes up the entirety of House Bonbon. The knights of these ignoble noble houses typically gain the title of knight through their profession instead of gaining it through any kind of martial service, though any knight is assumed to be able to provide for and protect their household against those who would threaten it. A travelling Luknight merchant might call themselves a knight of trails and trade while a Luknight sailor might call themselves a knight of salt and sea.
One particular profession Luknights tend to flounder in outside of their own borders is that of the knight of pots and pans. Luknight chefs tend to be exceedingly rare outside of the Candy Kingdom due to a condition known as Sweet Tongue which causes many Luknights to completely lose any sense of variety in how sweet any given dish is due to the large intakle of sugary sweets and candies in a Luknights diet; bceause of this condition Luknights have a tendency to pour large amounts of sugar into dishes which very much do not need it in order to, "salvage an already mediocre dish, nanora", the only real exception to this is Luknight takoyaki which is said to be universally appreciated as a classic cultural Luknight dish. In order for a Luknight to become a chef, they will often need foreign training under other culinary masters however once this training is completed a Luknight chef is said to stand next to none in the kitchen, often galvanized into pink whirlwinds of flavor and sugary delight. Luknight chefs are highly prized by nations such as /ag/, /mogu/, and /polka/. Any village that raises a chef holds the chef in question as a hero for all time and before these chef's depart to other nations, a feast of takoyaki is prepared for them to keep them well fed on their journey.
It is often said that Luknights inherited a cheerful and joyous love of festivities from their neighbors, the Matsurisu, however the strange and mysterious tension between the two nation is puzzling to both outsiders and inhabitants of both nations. While hostilities have never been raised on either side, the two nations rarely engage in diplomatic matters outside of purely formal gathering, none of which contain the same spirit that was said to run wild during a gathering of the Matsurisu and Luknights, known as the Festival Luna. One surviving relic of this long past time can be seen in the Takolauncher, a combination between Matsurisu pyrotechnics and Luknight takoyaki fueled ingenuity. It is unclear if the Takolauncher was ever utilized during an actual Festival Luna due to minor disagreements between the two nations regarding the proposed fuel for the Takolauncher being a powdered form of chuubanite, however it has been shown to be highly effective. The Takolauncher is composed of a large multi-rocket apparatus and several jumbo sized takoyaki balls that have had chuubanite fueled rockets placed carefully inside, these rockets would then be launched into the moonlit sky before bursting into an enormous spray of freshly cooked takoyaki across a mile radius, raining down onto those below. In tactical uses, this has been commonly used by Luknights in order to relieve villages and castles that suffer from food shortages during a prolonged siege, though bearing the armerment does tend to remind the Luknights of their once thriving friendshop with their senpai-nation causing a somewhat melancholic feeling to accompany the heroism.

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>>23991716
LUKNIGHT LORE SCRAP NORA!
One particular peculiarity of Luknight culture is in the particular way in which the peasantry holds itself, often times with highly dignified and disciplined principles. Many Bunaito farmers and lowborn men will not introduce themselves in the typical fashion of the Hololands, instead choosing to refer to themselves with a knightly title and their family house, as an example, a Lunaito by the name of Dondoro Bonbon might refer to themselves as, "Sir Dondoro of House Bonbon" despite being totally desitute save for a single shack which makes up the entirety of House Bonbon. The knights of these ignoble noble houses typically gain the title of knight through their profession instead of gaining it through any kind of martial service, though any knight is assumed to be able to provide for and protect their household against those who would threaten it. A travelling Luknight merchant might call themselves a knight of trails and trade while a Luknight sailor might call themselves a knight of salt and sea.
One particular profession Luknights tend to flounder in outside of their own borders is that of the knight of pots and pans. Luknight chefs tend to be exceedingly rare outside of the Candy Kingdom due to a condition known as Sweet Tongue which causes many Luknights to completely lose any sense of variety in how sweet any given dish is due to the large intakle of sugary sweets and candies in a Luknights diet; bceause of this condition Luknights have a tendency to pour large amounts of sugar into dishes which very much do not need it in order to, "salvage an already mediocre dish, nanora", the only real exception to this is Luknight takoyaki which is said to be universally appreciated as a classic cultural Luknight dish. In order for a Luknight to become a chef, they will often need foreign training under other culinary masters however once this training is completed a Luknight chef is said to stand next to none in the kitchen, often galvanized into pink whirlwinds of flavor and sugary delight. Luknight chefs are highly prized by nations such as /ag/, /mogu/, and /polka/. Any village that raises a chef holds the chef in question as a hero for all time and before these chef's depart to other nations, a feast of takoyaki is prepared for them to keep them well fed on their journey.
It is often said that Luknights inherited a cheerful and joyous love of festivities from their neighbors, the Matsurisu, however the strange and mysterious tension between the two nation is puzzling to both outsiders and inhabitants of both nations. While hostilities have never been raised on either side, the two nations rarely engage in diplomatic matters outside of purely formal gathering, none of which contain the same spirit that was said to run wild during a gathering of the Matsurisu and Luknights, known as the Festival Luna. One surviving relic of this long past time can be seen in the Takolauncher, a combination between Matsurisu pyrotechnics and Luknight takoyaki fueled ingenuity. It is unclear if the Takolauncher was ever utilized during an actual Festival Luna due to minor disagreements between the two nations regarding the proposed fuel for the Takolauncher being a powdered form of chuubanite, however it has been shown to be highly effective. The Takolauncher is composed of a large multi-rocket apparatus and several jumbo sized takoyaki balls that have had chuubanite fueled rockets placed carefully inside, these rockets would then be launched into the moonlit sky before bursting into an enormous spray of freshly cooked takoyaki across a mile radius, raining down onto those below. In tactical uses, this has been commonly used by Luknights in order to relieve villages and castles that suffer from food shortages during a prolonged siege, though bearing the armerment does tend to remind the Luknights of their once thriving friendshop with their senpai-nation causing a somewhat melancholic feeling to accompany the heroism.

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>>24027856
I'm pretty happy with that and also that my diagram is being used. I wanted to elaborate a bit on those final transformations in order from left to right:
>Nurterer
Saplings that take after the caring nature of their Goddess and promote the health and wellbeing of the forest and the saplings that dwell within, specialize in healing and regrowth and are powerful conduits of chuubanite energy and magic
>Guardians
Ancient and colossal, these saplings are brutish as their figure suggests and are utterly unbreakable in form and will. They serve as moving mini-forests in their own right and are only moved in times of great distress of the forest at large or trespass of special locations blessed by Fauna.
>Nymphs (?)
Elusive variants of saplings that are mischievous by nature and manipulate the foliage to their will, whether they create ensnaring vines to capture trespassers or to create open clearings for the weakest of saplings to be able to thrive at last. The foliage bend to the will of Nymphs and they should never be underestimated in their cunning and might.
>Treants
The wisest of all sapling variants, they serve their purpose to the forest by providing a guiding hand in the development of the forest and the saplings. Treants are a diverse group of individuals as they take their intellect and hone it into arts they seem fit as some Treants are strategists, logisticians, and some even developing their martial prowess.

I also initially thought of the idea that still-human saplings must first die to be reborn into seedlings that develop into the intermediate dryads but we can cut that out with no problem. I'm also open for there to be even more diversity of sapling dimorphism but this is as much as I understand off the top of my head.

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>>24030166
>tfw no nymph gf

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>>24029863
>Takolauncher famine relief
Kek I fucking love this.

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>/uuu/ is just Darkroot Garden

[Anonymous No.]

>>24030166
cool. so i have a few questions to hopefully get you to add more if you want. 1) are there any exploitable weaknesses to these different forms, and if so how would they deal with them. 2) from a physiological perspective, how do these seemingly radically different variants of saplings develop in nature, and how do they work. it seems they all share a similar beginning, but diversify at some point, what causes that to happen? 3) what evolutionary process lead to such diversification? if i had to give a few suggestions, biologically enforced roles (such as gender roles, or roles in hierarchical structures like social insects, etc.) could be evolutionarily advantageous. the nurterer could come from a variant of whatever causes the change (not sure if you liked my virus/bacteria suggestion) that is quick to grow, but inflexible due to a less dynamic, more repetative growth pattern, allowing it to be sufficiently different from the nymphs who would be the opposite, flexible but slow growing due to a more complex growth pattern that allows for more precise manipulation of nature, idk if manipulating foliage that just happens to be there would make much sense unless you had some kind of telepath, which would be pretty overpowered, or if you had to go through some kind of preparation process. guardians would grow denser, but would be slower due to mass, and they might also be slower mentally depending on how it affects the growth of neurons in the brain, the opposite of that being the treants. it is said that einsteins brain had more white matter, which some people think is related to connectivity, which might be helpful in identifying patterns, though despite the fact that i have done research on neuroscience, i can't say too much on that theory personally. also, obviously, all of them would be incredibly flammable for the exploitable weakness. tell me what you think, and if you like my suggestions. hope it helps a bit.

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>>24032563
>what is formatting

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SASEJ

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>>24032483
yo, thats actually a good idea desu
not for the whole thing obv, but for the deeper parts, that could work

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>>24032791

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Sana is streaming. It is illegal to write during a Sana stream.

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>>24035392 (me)
By illegal I mean for Sanalites. Everyone else can write.

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>>24035605
poor sanalites getting blessed with a stream only when the planets align
cant blame you desu

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>>24036354
Sana's been streaming more frequently. She just doesn't have a schedule because back pain.

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>>24036867
when is she going to continue her holoscopes streams? why hasn't she made an astrophysics stream yet.

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>>24037078
You can ask these questions in /nasa/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24037253
maybe i will.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros my speculative evolution book is out of stock...

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>>24038075
What about digital books?

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>>24038188
I could but nothing will ever beat the pure gratification of holding a hardcover book in your hands. if I become a rich billionaire, I will have a specialized team print out the archives of these threads and read the highlights to me as I rest

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>>24038433
Do you know the name of the book?

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>>24032563
alright you little piece of compost, I'll try but next time learn to format

>1) are there any exploitable weaknesses to these different forms, and if so how would they deal with them.
saplings transform based on different stimuli, not always based on a natural evolutionary directives

>2) from a physiological perspective, how do these seemingly radically different variants of saplings develop in nature, and how do they work. it seems they all share a similar beginning, but diversify at some point, what causes that to happen?
combination of chuubanite and passive divine intervention from Fauna

>3) what evolutionary process lead to such diversification? if i had to give a few suggestions, biologically enforced roles (such as gender roles, or roles in hierarchical structures like social insects, etc.) could be evolutionarily advantageous.
because our metamorphosis isn't directly influenced by reproduction, normal evolutionary traits based upon fecundity and natural selection aren't a driving factor.
forms can be affected by anything from the time spent in the forest, to chuubanite concentration, amount and type of fauna worshiping rituals, fauna's will, and the wills and needs of the forest itself (a need for the forest to protect itself could lead into a sudden appearance of more guardians-types for example).

[Anonymous No.]

>>24040936
After Man: A zoology of the future
I can probably find a pdf of it no problem but I'm not sure if I have the time to go sleuthing for it as much as my bones are urging me to.

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>>24041244
>my bones
Bones?

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>>24041244
What is your opinion about opening up a hot pool, which is a pool-sized hot tub, for Sanalites to rest in after work? We do have some supplies to build air-tight domes outside the station. And I'm thinking about building gravity showers and a pool. The pool will be useful for resting Sanalite backs after a week's worth of work.

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>>24041809
How do you use a gravity shower? Is it a bubble of water floating in midair?

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>>24042074
Gravity showers are what we spacemen call normal showers. The water flows from a faucet above and gravity pulls the water down to the floor. In space we had to wrap ourselves in bags to take showers or else the water would splatter everywhere in zero gravity.

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>>24042354 (me)
*call your normal showers
Excuse me.

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>>24042354
>The water flows from a faucet above and gravity pulls the water down to the floor.
Kek I love this. Yep, makes sense, that is a gravity shower. I guess what I had in mind would be a zero-gravity shower.

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>>24030166
Good job! I've archived it in the google doc: https://rentry.org/982xy
Basically, once the previous thread is archived, we (well, me mostly) will be putting all the content that has been anchored to >>23991716 to the google doc for posterity's sake.
Admittedly it's kind of done haphazardly, so please feel free to tell me if I've missed anything, or just that you want it to be organised in a certain way.

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Can Sanalites have pleasant conversations with Saplings? We want to talk about wooly mammoths and mossback tortoises.

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>>24041200
>learn to format
no. learn to read.
>passive divine intervention from Fauna
i prefer avoiding that kind of explanation, especially since, as far as i know, fauna is completely indifferent to 4chan on account of the fact that she is not /here/, but
>a need for the forest to protect itself could lead into a sudden appearance of more guardians-types for example
sounds a lot like how ant societies works. they release pheromones signifying their role, and if the hive doesn't have enough of a given role, the ants will change their role automatically to compensate. given the fact that the forest has no will, and that fauna does not know anything about this forest, this would be a good reference for you if you wanted to avoid ruining the entire magic system me and a few others have spent months working out the details for, but if even the faction based most on the concept of nature wants to disregard how nature solves it's problems naturally, going instead for some mystical perspective of nature that dumbs down all of nature into a vague, metaphysical feeling rather than a beautifully interconnected process of cause and effect existing within a grounded, self-reliant ruleset of physical interactions, then i guess i just don't know what to say. i gave you ideas of how you could do all of these things naturally without screwing up how i thought this stuff should work, if you don't want to use it i guess i can't force you to do anything. i wanted to try to avoid being antagonistic or anything but if everyone just doesn't like me, and nobody cares for my ideas then i might as well stop caring myself.

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oh god dammit not this again

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>>24044148
>no. learn to read.
This is not how you build a gateway to further discussion.

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>>24044148
>paragraphsanon self-doubt
Please don't be sad, it upsets me. Just like, act normal anon. The standards for that on 4chan are really quite low. Your ideas have value, you're just terrible at communicating them.
Reading the sapling's answer he's not even shutting down or putting down your ideas, he's just explaining the thought process behind his own lore. If you come into those discussions with the mindset that your idea not being accepted is losing, clearly that's upsetting, but that isn't really how this kind of project works.

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>>24041200
>a need for the forest to protect itself could lead into a sudden appearance of more guardians-types for example
How long does it take for that change to manifest? Do new guardian-types need to be "grown" after the need has appeared?

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>>24044148
>i wanted to try to avoid being antagonistic or anything
>no. learn to read.
anon, I even went out of my way to not only read your post but to reformat it so that saplings could and archiveanon could read it
I actively tried to engage with you and help, but your immediate response was to say "no, I'll do what I want"
a little introspection goes a long way

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>>24045267
hmm, good question
we should put that on the docket for things to sort out
there was another anon either yesterday or today that brought up the idea of trying to set a timeline? idk if that might need to be discussed more before we set in stone how "long" parts of lore take

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Could you explain /uuu/'s will of the forest through the roots? Roots with chuubanite circuits could carry information that the plants and fungus can read. The roots act like a network of information that plants read and adjust their behavior. The trees wouldn't have brains like animals. They could have brains like very basic computers that process information as inputs. This could explain why the trees can slap a man out of the forest for striking a tree with an axe. Just an idea.

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>>24046023
A while ago we decided that the current year of this world is 1120 VTE (1,120 years after we come to /vt/ world, basically), but we also decided that time flows at the speed of plot, so that's that. The idea's that by having the year set, we can put past events in relation to each other easier, so that we don't have to convert between multiple calendars to do that
For the question, though, I guess it isn't technically too related to the current year. I meant to ask if, say, someone started threatening the forest, when would the increased number of guardians start popping up

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>>24046196
"Will of the forest" is actually a thing that exists IRL. When one acacia is threatened, it communicates the danger to other acacias and the information is propagated, and they all start to lift their thorns. I guess it would be like a more elaborate version of this.

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>>24046196
>>24046345
oh yeah, this was explored in the Avatar movie. if the more scholarly chuubanite anons think its do-able I think it makes sense

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>>24046526
IIRC: the roots pass information naturally, since the plants also use them to absorb energy they end up tangling with each other below the ground, so you get a rough comms network, all we need to find is a way for this information to be passed to the druids (human)

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>>24046213
Id say that with some worship rituals, saplings might be able to accelerate their growth to forcefully change into certain utilitarian forms, but Id also like input from
>>24030166
since he's the one that came up with idea of this polymorphism

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>>24046345
>>24046526
Chuubanite is confirmed to be able to make programmable circuits. Perhaps the "programs" were made from evolution in nature. /uuu/'s and /risu/'s forests are similar in that they have huge veins of chuubanite underground. The trees could tap their roots into chuubanite, their roots carry chuubanite in the tree when they respirate then releases into the soil. Then other roots of smaller plants and fungus carry that chuubanite between them. The chuubanite has electric signals that the plants can "read" to tell them what goes on in the forest from other plants. individual plants are just a node in the network. The network isn't exactly a sentient intelligent AI. However the forest is "aware" of what goes on inside it.

This is also why I suggested Saplings to be symbiotes because their symbiotic trees give them the roots to translate the information of the forest network with their brains. Also the symbiotic tree would explain why saplings bodies change into their alternate forms. It also explains squeebs and antis turning into immobile trees. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

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>>24047554
He's doing it... I'm so happy...

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>>24047651
I'm not a Sapling. Its up to the Saplings if they're comfortable with my proposal.

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So I have a question to the Saplings about mammoths. How welcoming are you to mammoths in the winter monsoon forests of /uuu/? Mammoths would visit /uuu/ during the winter. Then they travel north through /nasa/ in the summer.

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>>24047554
oh, youre the symbiote anon, hello again
root idea makes a lot of sense, for sure tracks with established biology afaik; i'd actually like your ideas on some possible "wireless" communications if you have any. I know spores and pheromones are a thing, but theyre relatively "low-bandwidth"
the symbiote thing as a whole we should table and maybe discuss with other saplings. my only reservation is the idea of "two consciences in one autonomous body" would possibly interfere with our whole "worship and pray catalyst" thing

I gotta head off to bed now though, but I'll read any replies even if the thread ages

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>>24048451
any and all non-invasive animals are loved by Fauna and are therefore generally welcome in the /uuu/ forest
we do not take responsibility for what frequent consumption of vegetation in our forest might or might not do to foreign species

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>>24048680
I don't think the symbiote tree would have a conciousness. Its just a tree. It will have needs. And the symbiote is connected to the human's brain. So it will change the human's instincts to crave less food, drink more water, etc. In return for giving the tree its needs the human will have full concious control over the tree's vines, roots, and leaves. Its a symbiote; not a parasite. So the human and tree have to compliment each other's needs. The tree also knows the human's potential. So the tree will grow into your body based on your aptitude. Sure the tree will choose what the human grows into. However eventually the human will learn to use their talents with the tree's power to coexist.

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>>24048893
Mammoths would eat overgrown brush and grass. They'd also poop everywhere to fertilize the forest. Mammoths would feed birds with the fleas and ticks on their back. Mammoths will kill any predators desperate enough to try to eat them. Mammoths burn fat in the winter when they trek from north to south. Once they're far and hot mammoths will trek south to north in the summer.

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I just realized
Now that /uuu/ is here, one of the endings is possible
https://files.catbox.moe/iyrf02.png

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>>24044148
What does this even mean that Fauna doesn't know of this Forest? Does a chuuba explicitly have to be /here/ to manifest their will?
Even then the magic system that revolves around faith in the chuuba aligns with the preset conditions on how the magic system works here.
Details will be fleshed out in the relationship between how these creatures develop, and as /uuu/ reps are relatively new here, please restrain your autism and your preconcieved notions on how /uuu/ should develop.

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>>24052447
NTA but based on the current rules of this world, being /here/ means that the vtuber (can) have a physical presence in the mortal realm and thus can play a more direct role in how the country is run. That said, even if the vtuber isn't /here/, I would say she could still have a passive effect on her people - it would just not be her conscious decision to control what /uuu/ does, if you know what I mean.

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>>24052625
This makes more sense, but even if Fauna doesn't have a physical presence in this setting, /uuu/ could still carry out, idolize, and worship Fauna and her ideals correct? I imagine since /uuu/ isn't centralized however I assume that just means to propagate and nurture the forest as she is the Embodiment of Nature

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>>24053119
Totally, basically just look at the transfer of information between Fauna and /uuu/ as what it actually is: Fauna can speak to saplings and convey her teachings and such, it's just that she doesn't particularly take notice of /uuu/ in particular. But she is aware of her saplings throughout the multiverse, kinda thing.

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>>24053119
Of course they can! The jury's still out on the observable effects of said worship, but they can definitely make use of Fauna chuubanite, and that Fauna chuubanite (which is kind of a manifestation of characteristics related to Fauna as /uuu/ sees fit) can have a tangible effect on the Saplings as a result.
I guess in this case, it means that Fauna chuubanite may play a (perhaps major?) role in how the Saplings grow, differentiate, and reproduce (in its own way), and that influence is based on Fauna chuubanite's (and Fauna's, by extension) characteristics, if that works for you.

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>>24000597
I like heavy strong greatswords that pack power with each swing and requires strength to wield
Classic steel

>>23991911
thank you

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>>24054361
Okay, WARanon, time to end it once and for all.
Swords and spears, which is more based.

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>>24054560
Oh no, this is when we find that WARanon is a poser chuuni instead of a practical conquering warlord.

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>>24054560
not him, swords are more reliable at any range. spears are great at mid-to-far-range, but dogshit anywhere else. the leverage advantage of spears can be replicated, though imperfectly, by holding onto the blade.

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>>24054560
Hmmmm


Swords

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>>24054908
>not him, swords are more reliable at any range.
Well, except the range where the spear out-ranges the sword.

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>>24054908
But spears are also way more practical at arming a large number of troops and arguably more effective when used in formation.
But of course swords were also adopted by many armies to be used as their main weapon for their infantry because they can be adapted into more forms.
It's both an argument for their effectiveness individually and in formation, maybe their cultural significance as well.

>>24055021
>>24054882
Guess WARanon is more warrior than conquerer

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>>24055066
mostly far range. shields are harder to deal with as a spearman
>>24055206
spears are great in formation until a bunch of men with swords attack them from their flanks. it doesn't matter what scenario you are in, there's a sword for your style. can you say the same about spears?

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>>24055378
>can you say the same about spears
Well, yes.

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>>24055403
you would argue that spears are as versatile as swords? well go on then, make your case.

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>>24055433
Nah, that seems like work. You can make your case for swords being as versatile as spears though.

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>>24055206
Well, you can always have both; it worked for the Spanish tercio during its respective period.

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I use gun like a civilized man.

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>>24055470
with a spear, you can reach further, and at close range you have more grip, which you can use for better leverage in some circumstances. ignoring the multiple different styles of swords, from long ones to short ones, to curved ones, and ones that are balanced closer to the blade vs at the grip, it's just easier to keep a sword pointed at your foes than a spear. in formation, they either need to rotate as a unit, or lift their spears up, leaving an opportunity for the enemy to get into closer range where the spear is less effective because they got past the business end of the spear. even if you are in the goldilocks zone, unless the spearman is very proficient, all you need to do is cause it to miss long enough for you to either grab it, or get past it's effective range, where as a spearman must constantly keep their enemy at the same range to be effective. keep in mind, versatility is not universally superior. of course there are areas where spears shine, and you'd ideally have both, but if you didn't know what you were getting into and you had to pick just one, swords are your best bet. nevermind how much easier it is to carry around, and even conceal a sword.

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>>24056114
What about bows and crossbows?

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>>24056114
Makes sense, I agree.

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>>24056256
bows definitely. early crossbows were a bitch to use or aim, and while they got better over time, the same can be said for bows. the versatility in speed is important there, though i can't say i am as well educated on this as i would like to be. i have only ever used bows, specifically compound ones, so i might be biased.

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>>24056629
Crossbows are easier to train for, and have more armor penetration than bows. In general, due to the heavier projectiles some bows had more range than crossbows, but it's also because of those heavier projectiles that the armor penetration could be improved.

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>>24056003
Go to /vspo/ then
They have lots of guns

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>>24056789
makes sense, but you need a lot of strength to pull the bow, reducing how easy it is to train with it, and with how fast a bow can be used, the lack of armour penetration matters less after a dozen or so arrows. blunt impact is usually better against armoured targets anyways, and at the end of the medieval era they could practically destroy plate armour without too much effort. i'd say the skill ceiling of a bow is higher overall than with a crossbow, but again, i may be biased. there are ways of getting around any of these drawbacks, so it's not like they are always so important.

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>>24057250
Then again, weapons as a whole and weapons in the context of /vtwbg/ kind of differ, given that we have (some sort of) magic in this setting, which can lead to rather different conclusions in terms of what weapons to use

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It's the dead hours again...

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>>24045891
Looking back at it now, between the picture labeled "fauna_smack.png" and the fact that you started the reply with "alright you little piece of compost" I figure this is a meme I am unaware of. followed by you making a demand for me to "learn to format" you kind of didn't do much to facilitate an easy discussion yourself, but I'll take responsibility in that my post could have been better stated. Maybe if I replaced one of the words in your own sentence with something other than "read" it would have been less antagonistic. Maybe not sleeping well for weeks and being seen as someone who gets into needless discussions about irrelevant stuff caused a bit of irritation in me that I subconsciously put onto you. If so, I apologize for that.
Usually, I imagine myself as being above that kind of response, but everyone has those kinds of situations I suppose. Don't view this as an excuse, but I am admittedly somewhat tired of repeating myself when I feel like I articulated myself fine enough the first time. With that said, just for a couple replies, I'll work harder to format my responses in a way you can hopefully understand better, so please tell me if this is helping you.

>>24041200
In this post, you suggest that your magic system is not only not a product of evolution (including evolution of other things such as symbiotes, viruses, bacteria, etc. let's call them biological processes for clarity's sake) but that this physical process is influenced by metaphysical stimuli. A few suggestions have been given of how to effectively achieve your intended result in a way that fit the setting's mechanics, all of which you have seemingly turned down in favor of this. I am fine with the ideas themselves; all I want is for it to be explained through a physical process.
The main problem I have with your idea not being a product of evolution/biology is that chuubanite is a molecule that binds to other molecules, and the effect you seek to create would require turning animal cells into plant cells. Furthermore, it would only affect humans. I posed the question of how a dumb, aimless molecular structure without any inherent genetic or epigenetic qualities would act on the scale of DNA, which is a collection of amino acids organized in a pattern that is not merely the product of its sums. You gave an answer, but I don't know how much it was meant to address that concern at all.
Chuubanite can have an effect that represents its thread. It should ideally have only one effect that can be used in multiple ways depending on how it's used. being able to achieve telekinesis is possible, though it would likely require unique chuubanite and glyphs. The raw chuubanite element on it's own being able to consciously control things around in in a precise way is pushing it a bit far. In this setting, you would need a more complex mechanism for it to be able to achieve each of those conditions simultaneously, which is why increasing it to the biological scale is a good idea for that effect.
There have been multiple suggested biological mechanisms which you can use to achieve your goal. Furthermore, if you can think of one yourself that doesn't break the current mold, that is more than welcome, too. Chuubas cannot control individual elements with that level of precision, nor would they, see the guy who explained to you the rule about /here/ chuubas. If neither plain chuubanite nor passive divine intervention are viable options, the explanation for how it works from a physiological perspective is left open.
As a thread dedicated to the personified concept of nature, both in our lore and yours, it would be fitting in my opinion for you to use more inspiration from evolution and other such biological processes. It doesn't matter to me what you pick as long as it makes logical sense given the magic system, and you have creative control over your idea, but it seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity to me, especially since you can have the effects that you want and not break aspects of the setting. take that as you will.
All in all, I apologize for any offense I may have caused earlier, and I genuinely hope this can come to a satisfactory conclusion for you. My intention isn't to box you into a decision, which is why I try to suggest multiple, but I do want to make sure everything is consistent. To be honest, I figured most of us here were in agreement on the goal of this thread, so maybe I should ask if people wouldn't prefer me to stop posting these kinds of ideas or getting in these kinds of discussions at all, even though they are the essence of world building in my opinion, and I find it very fun to engage in. Hopefully no hard feelings will persist after this, in case any were made in the first place. This should be fun for all of us, but I understand if some of the things I say can cause others to dislike me sometimes.
also, fuck formatting, it kills my train of thought every time. internet rules for life.

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>>24059226
Dead hours... gonna end...
We must brave it, brothers!

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I've got work to do before I can sit down and write, but since it's been pretty quiet here I figured I could share my current plans real quick.
First up's going to be how /rose/ converts people into plants. It's going to be a painful process, but the positive is that your constitution will be far stronger. After all, diseases and viruses that effect animals can't effective you if you're a plant.
Next will be a chapter for /rose/ and /risu/'s adventures together. Planning on giving it a bit of a timeskip to where both parties can have a full conversation. The Vice President will explain the current situation to the Risuners and I'm even plotting on sneaking in a bonus chapter with all the VPs meeting and talking about the newcomers.
After that, I'm thinking about having /rose/ take it's first real steps into the outside world. Perhaps the chronicles of a lone Tunnelhog traveling around the world? I figure that could be interesting.
And that's all I got for now. Don't expect anything until much later today, though.

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>>24067914
I spend ten minutes re-reading my post to make sure I didn't have any errors, then immediately notice one right after I post it.
I sure am a genius...

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>>24067988
it's ok, bud. you don't have to be perfect on an anonymous forum like this.

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Calling all Risuners!
We are paying big money to rescue any capybara and guinea pigs that escaped one of our merchant ships!
If we don't pick up all of them, the Kronies will make us pay a fine.

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>>24069784
>invasive /meat/heads
>invasive /meat/heads' invasive species
At least the /meat/ doctors can help treat the bubonic plague their rodents will start spreading...

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>>24071637
Rest assure our capys are all clean and well groomed
You dont want to eat cattle with mad cow disease would you?

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>>24071743
Well, it's hard to keep OSHA standards up out on ye olde ocean. Especially with guinea pigs, you only need one to find a comfy, hidden corner in the hold to start living in its own filth and developing cultures of all sorts of nasty shit.
Though, even without the pandemic-related concerns there is also be issue with the /risu/ ecological niche being shaken by the introduction of a new species, that was the main long-term effect of lots of those invasive species.
Basically, shit's pretty kino and everyone should read Guns, Germs, and Steel.

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>>24072084
/risu/ animals adapted to /risu/ chuubanite, i'm sure they'll be fine for a while. desu, /risu/ should be paying /meat/ for the cute new animals to play with.

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What are /risu/'s natural predators? Could their predators take care of the loose cappybaras?

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>>24073013
/meat/heads; of course

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>>24072996
>>24072084
I dont think guinea pigs can survive in Risuland that easily. It's a rainforest.
One wrong step and a hundred different species of predators will eat them
Birds, toads, lizards, snakes, spiders, some other fantasy animal
So an australian rabbit scenario is unlikely

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>>24073312
/who/ anthrax bomb when

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>>24073333
They might be able to thrive as vermin in Risuner villages and cities.

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>>24073219
/risu/ should have predators because they're still connected to Holocontinent. They're not an isolated island like New Zealand or Galapagos before settlement.

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>>24073906
>>24073382
Well ecologically they wont cause too much damage.
>Plenty of native carnivore/omnivore predators
>Short lifespan
>Herbivorous diet
Guinea pigs would find a small niche in Risu without disrupting too much.

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>>24074060
>apparently a delicacy
the best trait for manageable invasive species really

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>>24074060
Haha you'd think so, right? However historically, short lifespan herbivorous animals tend to be the worst invasive species, because short lifespan=reproducing fast. They could quickly eat plants that are not adapted to their presence, and by eating the food source of other herbivorous animals they can collapse the food chain. For example, in america the introduction of rats that ate grains caused many species of birds to die off, and those birds dying affected their predators and so on.
Also, I'm just ranting about something I find cool, not gonna sperg out if /meat/ rodents being introduced to /risu/ has no effects kek.

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>>24074060
Keep in mind you only have so many predators. And if invasive species breed faster than the carnivores can kill them then the invasive species will eat everything, which will destroy the local flora. Also if predators breed alongside their new food source then you will have more predators to deal with. And predators will not stop eating the local prey either.

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Time to go guinea pig hunting!

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>>24074560

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I don't think cappies will survive /nasa/. We're too cold and out in the open. They might thrive in /uuu/.

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Question for /nasa/: Should bread dogs talk? Pan pan!

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Gentlemen. It has been some time. But hello. Let me see if anyone needed anything from me.

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>>24078254
Cappybaras are loose in /risu/, wut do?

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>>24078714
they adapt to the environment and a few are kept in captivity so they dont all die.

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oh. it seems there was talk about invasive species and possible biological warfare......
>>24073013
Pretty sure risuners would be the dominant species but there would be those that they would have to be careful about once away from a village. Tigers i assume would be the thing your talking about perhaps.
>>24067914
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO. Timeskip makes sense btw feel free to do it. Captain and a few translators are working on speaking your language so its only a matter of time. totally not distracted from watching rosemi play minecraft right now

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Btw yo meatheads. What kind of accomodation would cities have for foreigners. I was going to assume apartment like buildings unless you had a better idea. This is pretty much all i needed for the captain log unless you want to include more details.

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>>24079399
I was also thinking about crocodiles and alligators. Perhaps even monitor lizards like the Komodo dragon since they're suppose to be Indonesia.

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>>24079705
looking into it it seems they have orangutangs. Also the komodo dragon like you said and elephants. Tigers are known to live in them too. Honestly /risu/ should have a massive diversity of animals. I guess ll have to make some sort of basic list. I will say there probably would be a lot of poisonous shit. If your not used to traversing in our territory then its gonna be a nightmare.

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>>23991762
/vrt/

>Clothing
the general population wears clothes similar to carribean settler around 1600~1700 with a love for colorful dyed clothes. Men particular seem to enjoy blue for their pants. Robots on the other Hand prefer to wear very flashy robes with lots of engraving, paired with many accessories like amulets and wristbands to make them more easily distinguishable for the general populace.

>Entertainment
Workshops love to have competitions and demonstrations of their works to show of their skills and compete with other workshops, a few times a year these events even take on the form of big fairs that can spawn city wide and are enjoyed by all. Robots also love to buy carrots to a degree that if it is known that a big haul is going to be for sale, they will hold friendly competitions to see who gets to buy more than the others

>Religion
Depending on Sect these can vary widely.
for Hank Hill followers it is a great pride to hold big and lavish barbecues and offer anyone willing hospitality and a good meal.
Kiki followers will try to sail back to /pyon/ as often as possible to be in the grace of their goddess
Amiya followers will hold Mass once a week to spread wisdom and history of the world
Robots will share erotic arts they call "homework" among the general populace that they received from onolumi and will sternly express to learn from it and encourage people to produce "homework" of their own that they can then buy and offer their goddess in return

>Alcohol and Drink
Rum is the most widespread alcohol due to it being produced localy but thanks to the strong merchant presence liquors from all over the world can be enjoyed for a fair price. Beer in particular has enjoyed a big boom, expecially among the Sect of Hank Hill who will procure large amounts for their barbecues. People usually like to meet up in random grouping at the side of the streets to have friendly chats while drinking or enjoy a good hearty karaoke while under influence

>Development
Right now /vrt/ is trying to keep growing overall and ensure an enrichment of the nation as a whole while their craftsmen try to keep mastering their arts and making sure that they can keep maintaining the tools of histories past for as long as possible

>Funeral Rites
The dead will usually be send out to the sea with their favourite tool in life so that they may offer it to their oshi once they reach their ports in the heavenly realm
Robots however are very particular about recovering every corpse of themselves that they hear about in order ro recycle them to repair themselves or create new Robots from the parts

>Music
Songs of simple but memorable melodys, that can easily be hummed even, are preferred over more technical and complicated songs

>Name
the most common folk simply go by a first name with no real rhyme or reason but people working for a workshop are allowed to use their shops name as Surname as a sign of prestige. Robots are named after a production code that however makes no sense to anyone but themselves, rarely do their adapt a simple name to show favour of the general populace

I JUST WANTED TO WRITE SOMETHING AGAIN AHHHHHHHHHHHHH but my brain is still in wageslave hell and so i cannot really get myself to write something bigger...

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>>24079971
Orangutans aren't that much of a threat to cappies because they rarely eat meat. Orangutans have been seen eating meat. All primates are carnivores.

https://youtu.be/16j5Hd35KgE

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>>24079642
I assume you're asking for Diana and her group, in which case:
>They'll be staying in a nearby temple that night, because the city's too far away and the sun's setting. Accommodations are alright since they're expected to take in the occasional pilgrims and jannies refugees, but the group might be large enough that some might need to share a room with the welcoming party. The usual sleeping place would likely be woven mat with a bunch of cushions made of mysterious leather and filled with feathers/cotton/softened fibre, so pretty good for pre-modern cultures. The welcoming party brought some hammocks for the extra people.
>Afterwards, the plan's to have them visit the nearby city of Atoyavik next day (unless they want to hang around the temple for reasons), where in addition to local temples (basically the same as above), there will also be dedicated inns and guest houses available if they prefer those. The main benefit for those would be that they'll have individual rooms and thus more privacy, plus probably more variety in food choices (although they can always go out to the streets for snacks). Mattresses might be more common, at least in the more luxurious (and thus expensive) rooms. Both the clergy and the merchants are willing to banter if the Risuners want some local currencies (see >>23888508 if you want my idea for /meat/ currency).
>For food, guests like the Risuners usually get to eat better than the local commoners, so meat and alcohol will be fairly common. That said, if they prefer to stick with the greens, see >>23692817 and <span class="deadlink">>>23694128 for what they might find on the menu. The dinner depicted in the /meat/ risuner story can also help with some details for the food. Common street snacks include grilled guinea pig on a stick, and a mixed maize-chocolate drink (called champurrado IRL, picrel) that some of the more carefree members of the clergy might share during their stay too.</span>
Also, in case you want to write about them as well (if not, I'll just write them myself in between your lines as supplements), the /meat/ risuner will likely keep stalking the risuners until being explicitly called out, otherwise Tecpashochitl will do so because it would be impolite to not join them for dinner. The relationship between them would be cordial if professional, although it might feel like Tecpashochitl's job is to tardwrangle him every now and then.

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If /nasa/ has any interest in /risu/'s temple then it would be photography and video recordings for documentary reasons. The video documentary would be what /nasa/ would learn from the temple of /risu/ that they would use for historical reference. I'm also sure there's tons of secrets about the temple that would be forbidden from the public to know. And there are many more secrets of the temple that would be lost over time. /nasa/ would only go as far as they are permitted to. But first /risu/ needs to watch a /nasa/ produced documentary when they visit us first. We'll even have a short video in the hot pool for people to watch while soaking. The film is 25 minutes long.

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>>24080647
/meat/ wins the award for both best response time and most detailed answers. Fucking based. This will do just fine ill continue chapter 3.

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>>24080863
as long as I have my coffee...

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I do have a question for /uuu/, /who/, and /meat/. Do you have pumpkins? /nasa/ has many ideas for pastries that use pumpkins. The most popular of these pastries is pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pies are made from pureed pumpkin baked with egg, sugar, and a little bit of spice into a pie crust. Its a very mellow and sweet dish that is surprisingly filling. Kabocha squash is also an alternative to pumpkins.

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>>24081138
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin#Production
>Pumpkins, like other squash, originated in northeastern Mexico and southern United States
Uhhh, sure. But we aren't the place of origin.

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>>24081138
/meat/ does - it's one of the Three Sisters that frequently got mentioned in /meat/ food writing, so it's basically one of the main food crops in /meat/

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>>24081369
I figure if /meat/ has squash then they'll have pumpkin. Would /meat/ be interested in a pumpkin pie recipe?

>>24081342
Even if its not native I was wondering if you can grow it at least.

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>>24081486
yeah, looks like they grow in france and britain, so I reckon they could grow in the Republic.

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>>24081486
I mean, pumpkin IS squash...
But yes, /meat/ will be interested in trading seeds and recipe! It helps that we also have some spice for that as well (although it might make it a bit less mellow than the original /nasa/ formula).

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>>23991716
Dianas logs ch 3.

(Night time)
Well. That went better than I expected. We were greeted by a nice lady who told us that she even had accommodations for us. I guess that we weren't as stealthy as we thought but at least things are turning out well for now.
They invite us to a nearby temple. I thought they would have brought us straight to Atoyavik but the temple is nice enough. Since they will be sleeping with the party I thought that this would be the time to prove if my suspicions are true or not.
Of course 2 of those meat boys just had to make an advance on me. I know were known for apparently having higher sex drives than most foreigners but I was too nervous to even think about exchanging nuts at the time. I think we all were.
Most of us just ended up sleeping with a partner but for once there wasn't any sex going on. Or at least none that I could hear. They had some basic beds and hammocks and such so overall it was pretty comfy. I slept alone, despite those two fuckheads.

(Morning)
The first thing I did was an immediate headcount. All risuners were present. A lot of us were slightly relieved and maybe these people could just be friendly after all. From a logical perspective this made sense since we had good stuff to trade back home. I think the paranoia got the best of us. But not for a second am I gonna let my guard down.
They tell us that we should head for the city of Atoyavik. Its pretty far away so I told them we can stop at the temple nearest for a break before we head straight there. Tecpashochitl is being really nice along the way. Its actually relaxing and throughout the morning trek I personally think maybe these people aren't bloodthirsty savages. Still not letting my guard down though.

(Arrival at the next temple)
Well were here. Its afternoon and by my guesses we could reach the city by late evening. Our escorts have a lot of meat based products to nobody's surprise with not too many natural things. We end up eating both a mix of our own supplies and some of their food, it was only polite that we try some of their stuff out and its not like risuners have never eaten meat before.
One thing I really found odd was their currency. Its useless. You cant eat it or plant it, its just a tiny piece of metal. I've come to the conclusion that other nations do this and we are the only ones that use nuts as money. It was a bit of a surprise but I don;t want to judge these people on their ways. Everyone is different.
By this point there are much less tensions as some of the guys are cuddling with the females of their group. Finally it seems were starting to get along. Tecpashochitl had that look in her eyes of satisfaction. She then turned to me and asked me one on one
"Are you afraid of us, the entire time you all have been shaking and holding your weapons ready to strike. I understand our past will forever burn in many western risuners and for some reason you seem to have made your crew out of the most vengeful but we really want to put that aside."
I had only one thing to say.
"My grandparents were taken by your people. But I cannot deny the good that has come afterwards. Many of the weapons we hold right now is possible thanks to you. The very ship we arrived in was built because of your knowledge of boats. We owe you our entire fleet in a way and our tools are better than ever."
It was then that I thought now would be the perfect time to discuss something since my crew was "distracted"
"Listen closely. I can offer your people the thing you seem to value most. Our prisoners are tossed into geese chambers and we do nothing with the bodies. Many of my people want reparations despite what I said earlier. So would it be too much to ask that we can have a few of your pretty gems and in exchange, ill allow isolated meat outposts near the geese chambers so that you may collect dead risuners and do with them what you will?"

I will never get my grandparents back but there are things I can give back to /risu/ that would be glorious. Even if I may despise what they did before I'm sure they wouldn't want me living life in anger. They would want me to live the will of Risu as a nut connoisseur and a good captain. Risu please protect us, for we ae walking into either one of the greatest moments in our history or into the biggest trap of our lives.

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>>24081535
Pumpkin spice is cinnamon, ginger, and nutmeg. The only thing you'll need is some egg, pastry flour, and a bit of milk for pies.

>>24081515
I wonder if /who/ knows a recipe for wildberry jam. Saplings seem to be quite fond of wildberry sweets in general.

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>>24083028
>edible /meat/ currency

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>>24083028
Nice work as always! I'll see if I can get a reply up soon. Why do you have to stream so early, Lumi...

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>>24084153
Is the whole thread being turned into bots? I've started watching Lumi too, halfway through her X-COM VODs...

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>>24083445
>>24084153
>>24084307
when i started posting /vrt/ stuff i did not expect this to happen if i am being honest but it is a welcoming surprise

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Bump.

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>>24083028
/meat/ here
As much as we respect your generosity, we choose to reevaluate the deal because of one impracticality;
/meat/ and /risu/ are quite far apart even when we share the same gulf. Imagine the distance between Florida to Yucatan. And that does not account for tradewinds.
So any cadaver delivered to mainland /meat/ would have been extremely decomposed by the time it reaches here.
Our modifications to the proposal;
There will be no need for trafficking outposts on /risu/. Instead, a better idea. Now that the road construction in /risu/ is done, the /meat/head workers under /infinity/ contracts, the very same ones that taught you the skills of iron and woodcraft, are out of a job. They sent a letter mentioning that they wish to stay there and help the village they're staying in. So deliver this letter to them. It is from the clergy. They are granted their wish to stay, assimilate even, AND are given permission to freely share previously forbidden knowledge, like making chuubanite infused compost out of your geese chamber bodies, medicine, and advanced construction.
In return all we want is just permission to trade with /risu/ formally for the first time in decades. Our merchants are eager to sell you our cacao.

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I wonder if /risu/ is going to stop by /ggg/ and Sakuraun before heading to /who/, /uuu/, and /nasa.

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>>24088676
>It's spreading
Now risuners are gonna ask for our skeletons to make bonemeal with...

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>>24088676
>chuubanite infused compost
/uuu/ will note this

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>>24028548
Risuner here. You guys just need more recognition. An EN for meat would be a good idea though especially for filtering EOP's. And let's be honest for those who are there you guys rule the world building thread. Just saying

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>>24091033
Wait. What the actual fuck? I don't even want to know how this site managed to fuck it up that bad. Oh well I meant to respond to above

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>>24091093
Multi-thread drifting gone wrong. At least it's kinda on-topic.

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>>24090805
/meat/ makes use of chuubanite-infused compost quite extensively, which is helped by that /meat/ chuubanite has a higher affinity to organic substance than inorganic substance. The resulting crops grown from it thus has a higher amount of /meat/ chuubanite, which has different effects ranging from enhanced effects of herbs (stronger effect, longer duration and/or lower degradation rate) to meat-specific effects like accelerated healing.
Obviously, you don't get much /meat/ chuubanite in /risu/ or the bodies in geese chamber, but /risu/ chuubanite seems to work primarily on organic stuff too, so maybe the /meat/heads can experiment with it to see what effects the geese chamber compost will have on plants.
The difference between /meat/ and /uuu/ is (presumably) the source of said compost - /meat/ compost is basically meat and bone meal made of body parts that are useless otherwise. Then again, I guess it's kind of the same if /uuu/ uses Sapling detritus or if they also make MBM out of animals or even humans.

>>24088676
Basically this. Also, for reference, the distance between southeastern /risu/ and Atoyavik is about 5,500km (or 3,000 n mi). If we assume basically optical conditions, the distance can be covered in about half a month, so pretty fast, but not enough to keep things fresh. Overall, a trade deal will be preferable (contrary to the stereotype, so I guess it's a good subversion too), especially if that can get around the slight issue of the shortest trade route between the two countries happens to cross /morig/ shores.

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>>24091995
Boneheads will be a problem. Anyway I feel refrigeration may be the solution to this problem. However the world has to advance two centuries of tech before /nasa/ can sell refrigerated boats. Still have to build them ourselves but that's a conversation for another time.

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>>24091995 (Me)
>optimal conditions*
Thanks autocorrect

>>24091033
It happens to the best of us. Thanks for the praise, though!

>>24092225
Refrigeration will mitigate the issue, and having more time to ship the goods can allow better evasion from the deadbeats as well. Still, I feel it might not be worth it apart from a presumably small subset of the population that has a taste for sate tupai I do like it but still

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I wonder if/when risuners will have to make the choice between morig and meat. Both offer great alliance benefits. It's actually hard to think which one would be more beneficial.

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>>24093234
it is diplomatically feasible for /treerrat/ to keep up the gane with both /morig/ and /meat/. They just simply have to not overcommit to one or the other, otherwise the offended party will cut diplomatic relations and leave them into the sphere of influence of the other. Granted, we have to keep in mind that /risu/ diplomats are inexperienced and their first contact into the wider world was by the clocksxhizos, who as we all know don't have the best reputation and are also diplomatically stunted.
So it ain't looking swell for them.

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>>24093501 (me)
phonepostibg fucking sucks

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>>24093234
This is an interesting case study, actually. Because Mori religion abhors human sacrifice for its own sake, as it blasphemes death. But executing criminals is acceptable, as this is just an extension of the principle of protecting yourself, your loved ones and your country. And using the remains of those criminals is not particularly objectionable. Arguably, the Deadbeat funeral ritual of returning the bones to the Underworld has a practical purpose of recycling the chuubanite in the /morig/ ecosystem, so it's not so dissimilar.
So, from a theological viewpoint, /risu/ turning their dead into compost is not incompatible with the Deadbeat philosophy.

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Are deadbeats "bone heads" or "boner heads"?

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>>24093543
>phonepostibg
I'm sorry, but that made me giggle really hard.

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>>24094201
Both.

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>>24092314
Well proper refrigerated boats needs a power source. So maybe in a century everyone will have discovered how to refine chuubanite into gasoline or have petrol.

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>>24094900
just haul huge chunks of ice
or do some stuff with ice related chuubanite

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>>24095105
this. I mentioned it last time; ice stays cold for a Really long time in big blocks

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>>24095198
for transportation that can happen mostly on the nothern or southern end of the globe you can easily just pass where there is ice, stock up on it and then use it to travel for a good while, i envision /vrt/ for example could transport milk from /inf/ that way to themselves or icecream from /nasa/ easily even if /vrt/ is warm region

my biggest problem would be getting meat from /meat/ because that searoute sadly cannot really pass by icy regions

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>>24095105
The problem is hauling the ice through /risu/ on land to get to the gulf. Delivering ice on ship from north Hololive wouldn't be a problem. And building a canal through /risu/ is impossible.

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>>24095860
Yeah, from what I'm told, transporting the live meat sources will have to do. It's tough, but still better than trying to get the meat there unspoiled. Would /vrt/ allow /meat/heads to set up shops (literally) in their clay?

Captcha: JOBJ0

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>>24096686
the delivery of the "cattle" would have to be out of the eye of the general populace but otherwise it would be a fair tradeoff in exchange for the amounts of meat we want. we needs lots of meat to keep the barbecues going. the shops probably would be somewhere that is more bucko dominated since they already are showing a high tendency for ryona on their own anyway and probably would be way more understanding of the process.

lorewise it would be the bucko immigrants that started the deals with /meat/ for /vrt/ in the first place i would assume due to them being mostly the scholars of the country that travel the world to gather learn about it

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It seems the long-distance trade between /nasa/ and /meat/ may seem impossible. However /nasa/ has rations that last for decades in proper storage. Besides if /meat/ can't trade anything fresh then /nasa/ will settle with seeds. We can grow anything in our greenhouses so long as we don't need high quality chuubanite fertilizer. That said if /meat/ has rare metals they can't use then /nasa/ wants to negotiate a price.

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>>24096686
/vrt/ is on the 'New World'
Based off irl distancing that would be like delivering a person from Indonesia to the Americas during the Renaissance
/nasa/ being Greenland would also mean it's unlikely to get there quickly

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>>24097169
/meat/ actually has non-human meat as well (see https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatlore#fauna for some of the more notable ones - there's also fish meat, poultry, beef, and pork that I haven't written about yet), although we're happy to indulge if people from /vrt/ have a peculiar taste for the long pork...
Also, are you in Lumi's XCOM roster? I think you might have just died

>>24097771
Yeah, given the distance and generally unfavourable prevailing winds, something non-perishable will have to do (unless /nasa/ bring their own ice and icebox on board).
For rare metal, I didn't keep many notes on ones that we don't have the tech to utilise yet, but I think /meat/ would have some molybdenum and tungsten, and perhaps uranium (not sure if it's the "right" kind) available.

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>>24098963
i see no problem per se with that, no one says the people have to be delivered by the end of week, as long as the trade is being agreed upon and resources are delivered regularly, all should be fine. also that map does not take into consideration that the world is a globe and not just a map, we can go from the other side wich should be way shorter and since /risu/ also is in good standings with /meat/, if they allow that could be used as a middle ground for transportation where the people would be moved landwise to the other side

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>>24099974
The distance is actually about the same for either direction, although there's more land in the way for the "around the map" route. Another factor to consider is that both countries are in the tropics, where the prevailing wind would be easterly.
The distance between /meat/ and /vrt/ should be about 18,000 km (or 9,500 n mi), which is admittedly pretty significant, although making use of the trade winds should allow the run to be made in perhaps 3~4 months (a bit dependent on the seasons).
For the journey from /vrt/ to /meat/, the length is somewhat longer, especially if we assume the ship will be sailing around the holo peninsula. The wind condition is less favourable, so I would say it might take up to half a year, potentially longer if they get stuck in the doldrums and (to a lesser degree) the horse latitudes.
Overall, I would say a circumnavigation route like this would take about a year if we assume minimal stops in between. Stopping in between can lengthen it significantly (circumnavigation in OTL during that period took years), but the benefit is that resupplying along the way could increase survival rate and quality of life significantly, not to mention business opportunities between stops.

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Morig: PRETTIEST GEMS
Powerful navy
Friendly terms already
Good weaponry and trained militias

Meat
Arguably better soldiers?
Enhanced bodies from tattoos
Stained but patchable history
Introduced iron and shipbuilding to risuners
Involved with kronies who are also in risuner territory

Honestly it seems like either one has it's upsides and downsides. Meat to it's credit has been very kind and generous since it stopped the raids. Although deadbeats can probably teach them the same thing. Also luknights are in silvanus just a thought so at least that city would be safe.

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>>24101001
wich would be fine, its about keeping a steady supply, not a one off shipment

/vrt/ ships would partly be sailing for years before returning in order to make as much profit as posible as well as aquiring varied goods for the country itself

the biggest impact would still be if any country among /risu/, /mep/ ect would be willing to either construct a channel or at least a agree to a cross country trade route between oceans on their land

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>>24101726
Risuners already have this. /Inf/ built one. They even built two cities at each end called Ceres and Demeter. Risuners also are pretty open to new people so come on in

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>>24101831
ahh missed that, so yeah that would cut down on time immensily. plus we can bring gems and "homework" to /risu/ too when traveling there

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>>24101477
Not sure how much I should swing the argument, but other factors to consider:
>/morig/ navy, while powerful and arguably more versatile, consumes a lot of iron due to its cannon-heavy approach, which /risu/ probably doesn't have just yet
>Deadbeat soldiers are tougher, but that's mostly due to deadbeat physiology that doesn't apply to risuners
>/morig/ didn't/couldn't stop /meat/ raids entirely, considering what happened to Diana's grandparents (which would likely date back to about 50 years ago at most?), while /meat/ could

>>24101726
not the canals...
Like what >>24101831 said, there's a road going through /risu/ (/meat/ actually plays a role in building it too, funny enough), which could shave off maybe a month off the returning route, at the cost of bypassing Watamelon (not sure if they have anything significant to trade), /ahoy/ (probably a good thing), and /nasfaqg/.

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Guys I think someone is living in tunnels underground but I have no clue who it is.

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Sana in VC on Kronii stream. Can't write now.

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>>24102016
totally unbiased btw

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>>24102188
i thought /meat/'s sails made them technically more versatile. you guys are faster going with the wind, but /meat/ is faster against it. you guys are faster, and powerful.

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>>24102495
Im not a deadbeat or a meathead

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>>24102637
ok, sorry.

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>>24101477
well i guess now that /risu/ is helping trade of /vrt/ with /meat/ it would also mean a lot of potential produce going through /risu/ thanks to /meat/ and thus lots of potential things to get

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>>24102637
Wait, I just thought of something... Would deadbeat/meathead combo be a Deadhead or a Meatbeat?

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>>24102188
Eh, I do try to be neutral, but naturally I know more about /meat/ than /morig/, especially when it comes to counterplay, so some degree of bias is unavoidable, hence the disclaimer at the start of the post. I also feel a bit bad about mentioning the road that undercuts /nasfaqg/, even if it might not be significant (stopping by /nasfaqg/ likely allow more profit, which may or may not be worth the longer journey).

>>24102495
/meat/ sails are less specialised than /morig/'s square sails (which are basically designed to sail downwind), but /risu/ already has native-made sails of similar characteristics. For versatility, I mean more in terms of naval ship designs as a whole. While /meat/ naval tactics can theoretically be used by anyone crazy enough, broadside bombardment is still probably easier to use (but more expensive in terms of non-human cost) still. Still, in hindsight versatility might not be the right word. My bad there.

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>>24102782
>meatbeat

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>>24102782
>meatbeat

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>>24102926
Beatmeat. As in my meat.

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>>24102782
deadbeat combinations use the "x-beat" denomination (kfbeat, chumbeat, takobeat, teabeat sometimes)

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>>24102777
We will collect ALL the foods ALL the nuts and ALL THE PRETTY GEMS.

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>>24103158
while /meat/head combinations typically use the "meat-x" denomination (/meat/roni, /meat/suner, /meat/bud, etc.)

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>>24102782
>Deadmeat

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>luknights to protect
>kronies to protect
>deadbeats to protect
>meatheads to protect
Risuners cant stop winning. Come everyone, trade with us and hand over your pretty gems. Let us exchange our nuts so we may have ALL the nuts and produce nuts from ALL the lands.

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>>24102782
Definitely a Meatbeat, although Deadmeat is also very very good.

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>>24102016
>>/morig/ didn't/couldn't stop /meat/ raids entirely
Maybe genocidebeat was right all along...

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>>24104034
Sadly /nasa/ doesn't have very many pretty gems. That said sometimes we find pretty gems inside of meteorites. Those are called Pallasite. The gems are peridot. They probably won't power up your staffs and wands though since they lack chuubanite. But they're pretty to look at.

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>>24104320
All gems have a magical purpose for witches. Each has a different effect. I have a lost of them in the lore archive and im gonna add more as I get more. Probably gonna do one of 2 things with the deadbeat diamonds.

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>>24104034
when the backwater forest people with zero technology and mainly focused on magic and collecting "nuts" suddenly turns into the center of the world

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>>24104034
/risu/ is to east Holocontinent as /ggg/ is to west Holocontinent.

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>>24104825
>mfw awaiting the unlocked potential of diamonds according to risu witches

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If the Saplings are here then I want to ask if there's any interests or concerns that you have about /nasa/ in general?

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alright blender anon i finished it
here's an uncompressed version (with a wall)
https://files.catbox.moe/q7bson.png
and without
https://files.catbox.moe/xziizt.png

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>>24107061
Fuck anon, it's great. I love the expression you gave her. And unlike me, you've got an idea of what you're doing with the shading, the textures of the clothes, tail, hair, looks great.
I'm working on another piece, though it's less romantic, I'm excited to share it.
>>23991716
Could you add https://files.catbox.moe/xziizt.png to the end of the Reza's Log story?

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>>24105287
Damn right. All the allies = all the nuts

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>>24108626
i'm excited to see it
i don't want to remake anything else you do because that feels... intrusive. but maybe i'll write a short story about the idea

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I wonder how much pollution /nasa/ makes with deep space technology.

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>>24109172
Fair, well if you get inspired again you can go for it, I don't mind it at all.

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>>24108626
Done. It's a nice pic!

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>Perhaps as expected, the /meat/ cuisine featured a lot of meat, perhaps due to the Risuners' status as esteemed guests - even if their grasp on Risuners' taste was not as firm as their grasp on the taste of the Risuners.
When your brain suddenly tries to inject something approaching humour in the writing even if it doesn't fit the tone or what has been established in the text so far

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>>24118397
keep in mind, /meat/suners came to /meat/ a long time ago, before their magic rocks. they evolved to /meat/s climate, ecology, and culture. this might be the first time /meat/ locals had the opportunity to treat risuners to a meal.

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>>24118616
Yes, which is why they served them a rather luxurious meal of large mammals and well-prepared innards. The fried fat is delicious and moderated with a touch of nutmeg and cinnamon, and the booze is rich in spice and herb, although maybe with a bolt of iron as aftertaste. It's quite delectable, although some of the Risuners are noted to only taste a bit of the more vegetarian food before going back to their own supplies. Well, more meat for /meat/heads, I guess.

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>>24095860
There is a sea route isnt there though
you dont have to use the land route

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>>24095355
does the meat have to be raw? Cant you transport live animals or salted meats?

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>>23991716
anchoring /ehe~/ flag

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>>24122875
Ah yes, The Holy Kingdom of Our Lady Guadalupe

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>>24122875
waddup kobo friends

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Gentlemen?

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>>24125549
Mentalgen...
Is writing my side of the /meat/ visit now, but it might take a day or two depending on how much coffee I have left. Any particular place Diana would want to visit once she's in the city? I have something in mind, but I would like to hear your thoughts as well.

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>>24125843
She would probably want to visit where you grow your food if there are places. OTher than that most likely your shipyards just to see how your boats are made or gem displays if you have those lying around.

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>>24126068
Thanks for the information! It'll be useful for my reply.

>>24093644
Incidentally, is there anything set regarding /morig/ currency, especially coinage?

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what do people use as money? Risuners use nuts. Our money literally grows on trees kek. Nasfaq wishes they could be us.

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>>24127962
an oversupply of currency devalues it, leading to inflation, but the way you boast is super cute, so idk if i should tell you.

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>>24128196
You fool! Nuts decay and are eaten, which naturally removes money from the supply. Nuts are inflation-proof!

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>>24128282
We also once a year every give give up every single nut to Risu. Our currency goes through a yearly reset effectively.

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>>24127962
Minerally rich and relatively advanced /who/ most likely has a currency system backed by gold. Banknotes made of high-quality papers are used with coins minted primarily with copper(and maybe a bit of silver alloy for higher valued ones). There still isn't a name for /who/'s money, though I arse pulled the name Republican Beryl a while before in a brainstorming session.

>>24128282
I mean Aztecs also use cocoa beans as currency. Maybe you can model it after them. While any kind of nuts are accepted before, due to actual economic planning, now only some kind of valuable and hard to farm nuts are used as currency.

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>>24126377
>Incidentally, is there anything set regarding /morig/ currency, especially coinage?
A precious story mentioned golden /morig/ doubloons, probably with a skull on it. It would be a gold alloy for durability. Platinum could also be used, gold and platinum are plentiful on /morig/ (relatively) speaking. These would be high value bullion coins, while there would also be common usage coins made of copper alloys.
/morig/ is probably not trustful enough of its government to agree on a Central Bank, coins are likely minted by private organizations, with the most common set of coins in circulation changing over the years.

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>>24130389
Thanks for the information! Does that mean /morig/ doesn't use silver coins?

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>>24130530
The gold bullion may include some silver in the alloy, and there could be a silver coin in the coin set. Since the coin sets are designed and minted by private organizations, some of them will include silver coins, others might not. Odds are that most coin sets used throughout history would have a silver coin in their lineup though.

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>>24130728
Nice, this information will be rather useful...
>meanwhile watching random vtuber to unwind from /meat/ stuff
>she wants to use dead bodies to fertilise her fruit trees

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I just kinda realized that risuner grape agate blasters are basically goa'uld staff weapons

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>>24131077
Boy you're gonna love watching vtubers play this little game called minecraft.

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>>24129444
Banknotes yes! I was just thinking that. I was just planning on naming it "Republican Pound", but we can keep brainstorming that since i'm not thinking anything clever.

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Looking back on my first work with the Rosebutas, I find myself wanting to change some things about their design. Really, just the face to be honest. I want to make it more human, I feel like the pig nose would just look gross in reality so I want to go back to a normal human nose. The big floppy ears could still look cute though, so I want to keep those.
That way they're more like satyrs as opposed to something like a furry. I don't want a furry species.
But first I'll have to edit the original text and see if I can anchor it as a rework of the first submission.

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>>24131878
Nah, you don't actually get to use dead bodies to compost in Minecraft (with the exception of bonemeal from bones dropped by skeletons). That vtuber actually played Minecraft too and it's top scuff

>>24132050
Well, weight unit is a common source of currency name, but something that has more relations with Mumei and/or /who/ would probably be more fitting thematically. Also, fellow base-240 currency bro?

>>24132189
Pig boys are nice too...

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>>24132398
2 rosebros?

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>>24132398
Nay, it's going to be a decimal currency since i don't feel like making my own math more difficult. We're still going to be brainstorming the name to make it more related.

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>>24132398
Meant to say pig-eared boys, but ultimately what matters the most is what fits your ideas more.

>>24132506
Not really

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pain...

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>>24132577
Came with the name Beryl because the name is scrambled enough that ppl won't immediately recognise it as "berry",also may or may not have been because the Beryl rifle popped into my mind suddenly. Berries are the closest thing related to Mooms that are also kinda used as a currency in her streams. Could also be something else that the natives in /who/ used as currency before minted coins, named after some rare rock/minerals maybe? She did crush rocks as an owlet after all.

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Somewhere deep within the forest of /risu/

"Here you are, the 2 diamonds we managed to obtain from our friends at /morig/"
"Ah yes thank you Captain Reza. I shall reward you handsomely with many nuts once i determine what these do. Please stick around the village for the meantime."
The witch ruled this village as most witches do thanks to their supernatural abilities. Many of the other village residents act as assistants or apprentices to ensure the ways of magic are passed down generations.
This is the first time that a gemstone outside of the homeland will be tested and the mysterious witch who refused to provide even a name would begin experimentation.

Since this came from /morig/ it was assumed that it had something to do with either the bones of someone or possibly related to death.
My first instinct was to test it using a wand. What happened was a massive burst of a huge variety of colored beams. Light so bright I nearly went blind.
It was both beautiful and terrifying as this is definitely the strongest magic I have ever seen. It was made very clear to me that this was a destructive weapon of mass scale.
A whole section of the forest was in utter devastation by what appeared to be fire, acid, poison, ice, and even lightning possibly. One of the trees had completely turned to some stone as well.
The diamond used had been completely drained of energy and disintegrated. Luckily the other one is being turned into a gemcorn for planting and multiplication.

Captain Reza came forth once he heard the blast "WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK HAPPENED"
I could only respond with one statement "Get me more and you will prosper"

One thing is for certain. These are the most powerful gems we have ever encountered and will be in EXTREMELY high demand. I shall recommend to everyone I can to get these from /morig/ and do what it takes to get more of them to accelerate the eventual mass use of these as future weaponry.

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>>24133073
>Diamonds make Tri-Attack from pokemon
What development!
I have a theory regarding what happened.
As we know, /morig/ chuubanite absorbs thermal energy, this is what drives the Underworld climate and why objects containing high concentrations of Mori-type chuubanite are cold to the touch. It would seem this thermal energy is passively being stored into the chuubanite. It was known that this energy could be depleted by some processes; a deadbeat's skeleton consumes chuubanite while growing and healing.
Here, it would seem the Risuner witch has found a way to trigger the sudden (and explosive) release of all the energy accumulated in a Mont Mori diamond.
However, this brings the question, would all diamonds contain as much energy? This diamond might have been sitting in /morig/ absorbing heat for eons. A diamond grown in /risu/ would have /risu/ chuubanite instead of /morig/ chuubanite, so you might need to infuse the chuubanite with energy manually, since it wouldn't absorb heat passively. This is a process done by /kfp/ to power their flamethrowers with energized chuubanite, so they may have insights there.
The magic spreading out in a variety of elements makes perfect sense; /risu/ magic seems to very depending on the color of the light diffracted through the gem. Diamonds diffracts light into a very differentiated rainbow because of its high IoR, so accordingly its magic powers could be differentiated into a variety of elements. This leads me to believe any diamonds could have the same "type" of magic, not only /morig/ diamonds.

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>>24133034
Beryl is a somewhat common mineral it seems, so certainly in the realm of possibility, and i personally like it, still, I'd like to explore other options to see if we come up with something more subtle. I'll completely decide on something later today since i'm somewhat busy right now.

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>>24133863
I actually did think of this. The original idea was that diamonds produce the entire spectrum of light so i based it off the prismatic spray spell from dungeons and dragons. And yes very good observation about colors. Risuner magic is entirely dependant on colors so diamonds would have multiple elements. I actually do have ideas for other uses of diamonds but this was the single explosive use that is pretty much emergency only. About risuner chuubanite thats also a good point. Risuner magic and deadbeat magic is very different so the effect will be different. Risuners sadly have to wait years for magic to be fully grown from their gemtrees and dont have a faster way of doing so like KFP. If we had a way to manually make trees grow faster it would only take a decade at most for risuners to have armies of gem blasting soldiers kek.

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>>24134328
/risu/ trees probably store energy into gemcorns a bit like how normal trees store energy into fruits. But instead of turning the sunlight into sugar, they turn it into stored chuubanite energy.

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You know, as I'm writing this animal to plant conversion thing, I'm starting to realize just how scary and painful I've accidentally made it.
I'm not even sure if I'd choose this process over just dying.
But hey, I guess that's the price you pay to be plant?

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>>24134523
That was the idea. Trees both normal and gemtrees absorb energy either by sunlight or in the gemtree case (since theyre underground) the water and chuubanite essence from below

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>>24134685
I remember after I wrote it, an anon told me that the deadbeatification process was fucking horrifying if you thought about it for a second, and I realized it totally was and I hadn't given it any thought kek. But at least deadbeatification takes decades, I guess the Rosebud transformation is faster and more disruptive.

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>>24134685
i thought rosebutas had that because of evolution not sudden conversion.

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New bread doko?

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>>24134872
Yeah, it's meant to take a few days at most, but I'm realizing the person would be awake for most of it. So far it's got covering the body in tightly woven thorns (roses), forcefully making the body go limp and unable to move, and covering the body in a mucus that won't drown them but definitely would give that sensation of drowning. And that's only the start of it, I sort of feel bad for making it this harsh now.
>>24134894
There's a special, kinda "magic" (bullshitting with fake science, in other words), process I'm making for other creatures to become plants. It's an alternative, non-genocidal method for /rose/'s end goals. Rosemi talked about a world full of only plants, so that's what we strive towards.

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>>24133073
forgot to fucking anchor >>23991716

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This is an idea for your nations: How does your nations handle trash and general pollution? /nasa/ tries to recycle everything we can but sometimes materials become unuseable trash. In space /nasa/ could eject unuseable trash in the airlock. However /nasa/ is no longer in space. So we'll have to figure out where to store the unuseable trash to minimize harm in the environment. Same with air pollution once we start refining coal coke.

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>>24135140
What trash would risu have? We get all our shit from the ground kek.

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>>24135140
What's a pollution?

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>>24135140
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On a more serious note, for a rapidly industrializing country, the pollution standards and regulations would definitely be haphazard in the eyes of a commentary Earther. The regulations would most likely be focused on water pollution as although many farms and rural communities rely on rivers, it's also prime for riverine transport and industries like textile.
Some sort of national park might also be present to protect owl habitats. Other than that it's most likely free game especially for air pollution which would be more invisible.
Quick read suggests that for a nation with the developmental level of /who/, a lot of industrial wastes that still have use would be collected and then sold. For household wastes, most would just dump it in their yard if living in someplace more rural or the back alley in cities. And municipal waste collection is probably starting to become a thing.

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>>24135927
Ahhhhh *contemporary earther