/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>~30k watching
>~300 votes
wtf is happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
Sony is using bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
wtf aren't these girls Indie tier???

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676514
500 or 600 votes now, so its still maybe a massive incline from the usual 30 to 60 views she gets
>>23676453
jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
>GURA MOGGED

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
The voting is literally she asking if they are actual viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Israel
>It's climbing

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
seems like they're trying to expand the niji EN way but SONY is cheap as always, had Millie seen any growth from her little incident btw? I don't watch whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
Holobros I don't feel so good...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676453
>Sony is using bots
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676453
When did they get sony partnership?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676729
>The NijiEN way
You fucking 2 IQ retard it was a fag from /#/ who bought those botted viewers hoping she would get her channel suspended. He literally posted that he was doing it in the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676729
You are from the numberfag thread are you not? Tell us why they are targeting her for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676729
She knows that it's botted. She did a poll and there are only 700 votes.
Either way, the bots are working well to please the youtube algorithm, because she says that she is used to the <100 ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

For real though. How did she get that many viewers?
Was it a youtube "raid"?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6P3fSEY5Q
At least post a link

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676801
May 1st

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676839
>>23676453

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676834
yeah she already has like a 10x genuine increase (if the voting and vod views are legit)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676815
>hoping she would get her channel suspended
why try and twist the narrative, people like you don't help matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676729
>The nijiEN way
?

[Anonymous No.]

>tranny vtuber
>suddenly this attack happens
yeah its sony for sure botting to get him banned
how fucking dumb are you people?

[Anonymous No.]

Sara cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676999
its a woman, anon... a stacy too...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676999
Literally what are you talking about. Females with penises live rent free in your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677077
>Females with penises
Those don’t exist rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676453
>>23676801
>>23676853

Interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676815
I know number brother tried to test it but he went for the cheapest option (much like SONY it seems), niji EN kpop fujos are more refined I give you that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676982
niji males to be exact, their fangirls are notorious for using bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
At least she knows it's bots and just rolling with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676923
So, what's the actual situation here? I am curious but in all honesty I will probably leave this thread and have forgotten that I asked.
Have a cute Poruka for your efforts. Best of luck to the sony chuubas, I hope they succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Sara sound like Sana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676982
I assumed their higher views/subs was due to the billion+ chinks in the world and the lack of large corpo male chuubas concentrating viewership. Is there any concrete evidence of botting or is it just rrats?

[Anonymous No.]

>GURA KILLER
GURA KILLER
>GURA KILLER
GURA KILLER
>GURA KILLER
GURA KILLER
>GURA KILLER
GURA KILLER

[Anonymous No.]

>Sara getting botted
bros, she doesn't deserve the negative publicity she will get from this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677431
Because Australia

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677474
Meant for
>>23677285

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
chumbud here
i kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677474
Pure, 100% truth based on damning evidence like "the angle of this increase in the CCV graph is 3 degrees too high."

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677474
You're free to let us know where those viewers are coming from. Prism doesnt do chinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677600
Typical deadbeat telling lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
This is kinda disappointing. I had jsut subbed a few weeks ago but now I'll unsub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
Looks like the numbers thread is up to their old tricks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677474
*Male en chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677474
There is evidence of something unnatural happening, but it being bots is more of a rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676846
>is real
WHAT THE FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677808
They're ghosts Anon. The only logical explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676834
>only 700
Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677745
Nigger what

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>>23677939
It's at 1,400 votes now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677939
1350 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677333
some faggot just wanted to see what it would look like on the ccv graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
I KNEEL
t.chumpedo

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone watching has to vote because...because they do okay!!!
I will not vote on polls because I'm only here to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

Really makes you think when its this easy to bot 50000 views
She averages sub 100 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

SARA LOVE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676923
it was a holobronie faggot trying to sabotage her channel, stop the damage control

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677939
>1.3+votes
>5k+likes
>40k+ views
This is really confused /#/fags in a lot of ways

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678033
based, the true lurker experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
Cute Sara finally blew up! I’m so proud of her

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678053
Makes me think that it was less youtube killing the bots with hololive and more it was cover deciding they were no longer necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678115
Rent free

[Anonymous No.]

Kneel to your queen

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678154
>>23678115

[Anonymous No.]

The Joe Biden of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678053
It isn’t *that* easy. It’s a simple process, sure, but people comb through analytics and other such data all the time. Making it believable is critical, and posts like this >>23678154 show you what the wishful thinking can do without hard numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678231
Kek

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>>23678252
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by this.

>>23678226
Hardly. I'm just brainstorming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678154
what does this have to do with hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
>real
either this is:
1.An actual 7th trumpet and sony is pulling some shady shit that could end up polluting every thread for weeks.
2.#s is targeting smol corpos now
3.This is a genuine miracle glitch or redirect actually working
moneys on the third one,as boring as it is.

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>>23678053
it's actually way easier than you think and youtube is filled with botted streams, mainly from crypto scams, if you follow numbers, you'll see several of those streams everyday on the 30-50k range, all the same thumbnails, usually on stolen accounts and they get banned all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>raided her company mate
>300 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>sony starts managing some small corporation
>starts botting them to a ridiculous degree without telling them

[Anonymous No.]

I'm high and horny, and i can't find Sara lewds post some please

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676846
It automatically loaded to Nia Suzune livestream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678420
>2.#s is targeting smol corpos now
/#/ was confused as well, but its an interesting data point to see that the bots weren't transferred on the redirect

[Anonymous No.]

Her streams were comfy, I guess I have to drop her now that she's popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678598
Youtube has the twitch raids now
https://twitter.com/Chen/status/1521587502691225600

>5k views on the vod
Well there we have the evidence of the botting

[Anonymous No.]

Sony could at least be subtle about it, they're going to fuck these girls over in the long run with their "aggressive management".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
>likes > views
HOW??

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678729
First time seeing what sony does? They didnt give a shit about versen

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678765
>30k viewers
>only 5k views
you dun gooffed

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678765
Youtube's view tracking is absolute dogshit for some reason, shortly after a video is uploaded (can take anywhere from several hours to a day) the only person who can see the real views is the uploader/streamer on their studio page. This seems to be especially bad when there's spikes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676801
>partnership
Pretty words for "buyout".

[Anonymous No.]

Miosha 40k
Chammers' part is ending now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678726
"Youtube has the twitch raids now
https://twitter.com/Chen/status/1521587502691225600"

Oh I see.
So with this feature, an operator (like PRISM Project) can actually create something similar to concerts or variety shows?

I see.
If so, then this would work well for Relay type broadcasts (e.g. Niji Apex 2434 Kill Relay, etc.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677285
>>23676453
>>23677206
>>23678190
>>23678231
>>23678226
Holobronies coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
>viewers 3x than that of subscriber count

Something fishy is going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679211
Just follow the numbers thread. The same anon who botted Millie botted Sara with more bots this time.
Even though they were bots, the algorithm picked up her stream and she got like 1,5k actual viewers, which is still like 20x more than what she usually gets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679330
Link the posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679330
>1500
her raid only transfered 300 people to Nia

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679378
Bots doesn't vote for the poll, and not all viewers gets redirected. And people are estimating that 5k were the actual amount of viewers, since that's what the VOD is showing.

[Anonymous No.]

Guess our numberfags days are truly over...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679330
>/#/ holobronies are now flat-out botting and harassing chuubas with the stated goal of taking down their channels
More proof that keeping a ‘containment’ thread is like ‘containing’ a nest of cockroaches in your kitchen thinking they won’t spread to the rest of the house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679330
I did reps. They seem just as confused as we are. Where did you even get this information?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679673
Why don't you read the thread for yourself to see that anon is lying to you itoddler-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678420
It's numberniggers again just like they did with Millie and Ame. I swear to fucking god, that general should've been banned already. I'm just going to complain on IRC, since feedbacks does fuck all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679673
It works for the most part. Its a necessary evil if anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676453
Why didn't they bot Verse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679727
>>23679771
They admitted to it on Warous

[Anonymous No.]

I hope you guys liked Sara at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679853
Not really, containment doesn't work when the containment isn't enforced in any way. If you banned the NijiEN anti and HoloEN anti threads in the catalog /#/ would lose half its posters.

[Anonymous No.]

So /#/ is botting again?
Why hasn't that shit general been banned yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679955
Okay, then you can still link it?

>>23679857
They love their true chuubas too much, obviously. Stop asking questions!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678729
Big Corp want profits NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680053
Most of the times I see it they don't even have a fucking vtuber OP. Fucking offtopic retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680099
That would be against the rules to link it, you know how to look at it yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679955
AHAHAHAHA domt worry anon i believe you

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680004
I really like her, she makes my cock throb
Seems like a fun girl too

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
they get botted a few days after Sony buys them, hmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680053
>ban numberfaging
>they just shit up the generals instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680053
>>23680129
I hate the thread just as much as you guys, but you realize there's not anything they can actually do to the thread when the thread itself isn't breaking any rules? All they can do is ban the people within it, and only if they admit to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679955
Link or proof pls, I would love to see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680220
They already do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680163
Man maybe they should do this kind of thing more often, it's bringing people's attention to quality underrated corpos they would have overlooked otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680220
They already do this though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680234
>y-you can't b-ban us
>w-we are n-not breaking any rules
Trying to get channels banned and mass reporting is against the rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680234
Not true. Last time they did this everyone who even posted there ate a 3-day vacation. They can do whatever they want and that includes banning /#/ for repeated malicious harassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680148
>That would be against the rules to link it, you know how to look at it yourself.
Okay, I searched, and there was nothing. What rule states you can't link another post on this board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680330
>>23680347
That's because they made the mistake of admitting to it. I don't see it happening this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680220
They already shit up the generals, no one likes them.
Besides there's still the NASFAQ threads, those guys are the harmless numberfags since they focus entirely on Hololive instead of channeling it towards tribalfaggotry and bullying 2views.

>>23680234
Lack of rules being broken didn't stop them from banning a certain popular general on /g/. The rules are so vague jannies have free reign when it comes to interpretation. For example encouraging botting views and mass reporting youtube channels for the same bots they're responsible for is literally textbook raiding, which is against the rules.

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>>23680347
>3-day
And this unfortunately is /vt/'s biggest issue. It should be 2 weeks for raiding
>B-but it's not actually raiding
Mods already twist ban reasons why not do it this time

>>23680407
>I don't see it happening this time.
>>>>>HRB the attentionniggers on /vt/ won't admit they did _____ for well, attention
Just wait

[Anonymous No.]

>/#/ tests if bots work on small corpo
>they do
>/#/ literally doesn’t tell anyone they did this
enter this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680347
The good days when just posting "cope" would result in a 3day ban across all boards. Wish we got those mods back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680374
Seconding this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680481
>>/#/ literally doesn’t tell anyone they did this
It's not hard to know who it is when they already did it to Millie retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680481
The part I don’t believe is
>/#/
>not bragging about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679955
There's no proof...

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>>23680484
We have posters that call people "keks" in lowercase because they don't realize that "cuck" is filtered to "kek" when you capitalize it and they think kek is the actual insult. This place is irredeemable.

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>>23680434
>encouraging botting views
>mass reporting youtube channels
source?
>They already shit up the generals
they are the same people shitting up /#/, i browse there for industry news since it always gets linked there and there are people shitting up the thread for hours just like other places

[Anonymous No.]

the fact the bots work so effectively and count like this proves basically every company has it.
I’ve seen streamers with 2-3 million subs move to live streaming and only get a couple thousand viewers.
those are the true numbers.
the truth is, vtubers have never actually gone over 10k before.
those are the real facts.
/#/ lives in fantasy land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680556
same thing that happened with wapanese --> weeaboo
it's just part of how things evolve

[Anonymous No.]

numberbros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680556
what if I told you I call people keks because I know it’s filtered. I’m simply adapted to the filter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680627
>proves
I mean, maybe, if you have confirmation bias.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679673
how to find the samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676839
100% bots. she went from 60 viewers to 8k in 10 minutes out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680678
I've typed desu on several occasions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680627
I think the best way to test for bots is to do a poll, bots don't seem to know how to vote in polls. It's why you don't see Holos do polls very often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680738
I intentionally type out “tbdesu”

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679673
Nijinigger falseflaging kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680678
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, nijibros: why is your company so perpetually JUSTed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680826
Why did they have to use a word with a completely different meaning as a filter. Now I don't know if you find the post funny or if you're being rude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677285
>niji males
>their fangirls
Programming socks wearing trannies*
And they would definitely use bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680795
>>23680843
>>23680880
Uh oh looks like the holobronies from /#/ found out about this thread LOL, I think we're getting close to the truth buds.

[Anonymous No.]

So this is the power of sony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680875
Thats the point of filters. Same with desu baka senpai

[Anonymous No.]

has the word "holobrony" ever been unironically uttered by a mentally stable individual

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
/#/ schizos doing their thing again

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681057
Cioe

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681057
i don't even think it's been uttered out loud.

[Anonymous No.]

>They didn't admit to it
Nigger if it's a test they're clearly gonna target another Niji or a Holo with it and then a nigger will 10000000000000% admit to it like an attentionwhore he is
Hopefully in this scenario him and every IP ITT gets a month ban and ever /#/ onward is instant-banned
>But the generals
They're already shit because of those same faggots. /#/ existing doesn't stop them from dual thread shitniggering

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681184
Well I don't know why they'd wait if they know it works now so I wonder what they're waiting for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681057
>>23681115
cry more

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676729
>the nijiEN way
>deflecting this hard
god bronies are a laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676453
Satan was right. Sony will destroy Prism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681298
>I wonder what they're waiting for.
Probably a big event they can bot for the sake of milestones and/or manufacturing narratives.
For example botting NijiEN's 1 yr anniversary next week so they can pretend Anykara bought them and spam yet another Niji nothingburger in the catalog for weeks. These faggots are extremely predictable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681057
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
She has a boyfriend btw

[Anonymous No.]

Finally all my Sara shilling has paid off...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681462
Not my issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23680526
They got banned the last time they did. This way they get to have their cake and eat it too.

[Anonymous No.]

PrismKING status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681493
yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

SHIKI MOGGED

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676729
chink fujos don't seem to bot things. it seems like they try to inflate vod views

[Anonymous No.]

>>23682365
Then they arent doing the best of jobs but then again
>women
>doing anything right

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
Aussie snek let's go

[Anonymous No.]

>>23682426
Women are superior to men in every way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23682538
dyrbi

[Anonymous No.]

>>23682538
will you look at this tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681462
>Amaki Sally
Goddamn we really could have had a top meme idol being the trendsetter of vtubing industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>23682211
Fuck I love Shiki though, her voice is so cute and professional sounding and her streams are so high quality that it's amazing that someone like this is from a small corpo and not one of the heavy hitters. She also was blessed with one of the greatest models I have ever seen, now I'm not really the shallow kind of person who looks at the model first because if a VTuber is good then I will come to love her model no matter what I thought of it at first. But her model is right up my alley, I love the anime girls with hair over one eye. It is one of the greatest design traits someone can have. I also like the name Shiki a lot, maybe it's because I mentally associate it with a bunch of great characters. Anyway she's actually streaming right now but I'm a VOD man so I'm waiting for the stream to be over so I can watch it on my own time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23683574
shiki also canonically drank her own pee. someone mentioned it on this thread and its how i found that corpo. shikidew does ya good

[Anonymous No.]

>some oil baron can just pay 3 grands of bots to incline his oshi to hell
Is that easy, huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679330
>momentum brings momentum
>also you can rig the initial shot to get the subsequent benefits

That is quite interesting. It means bots actually work.

[Anonymous No.]

Lmao, now the vods are being botted too, this bitch is really going to get banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23683859
Would they fly goomba out to the UAE, or do they already know the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684357
I doubt she'll get banned for something that isn't her fault. Or at least, not permanently. If anything, it's good that a company as powerful as Sony bought Prism because they'll have the power to sort out this misunderstanding quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684375
Where do you think she's been the last few days, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684481
How can you even know that she is not the one buying the bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684816
Well if she is the one buying the bots she'll be banned, but she isn't so she won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684874
No one cares if she is the one buying or not, it's her channel, she'll be banned regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684989
Nah, she won't.

[Anonymous No.]

it's fucking over, the fact she's getting holojp numbers makes her the new queen of EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684816
I'd like to believe that she couldn't be that fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685080
Would be really funny if this prompted someone to create her own general for her. Because she's big enough to have her own general now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684874
Do you know anything about how bans work on Youtube, or big social media in general? People get banned for shit they didn't do all the time. It can take months or even years to sort out, for someone of this level it would be easier to just make a new channel. You would think Sony would make it go away, but who's to say they give a shit about Sara at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685272
When Kiara got banned it was sorted out in less than a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23684357
This is actually serious because they're definitely fucking with YT's revenue scheme now.

Makes me wonder if it isn't actually Sony hiring the bots, but some rival intent on keeping them out of this business. It's way too obvious and overblown and they're not trying to hide it at all, and they're directly trying to cheat Susan now too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685457
Kiara actually matters to Cover, Sara matters just a picometer more than literally nothing to a giant conglomerate like Sony, they just own her. I doubt a single employee there works full-time on vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685780
Prism would insane if they didn't save Sara, she's bringing in 40,000 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got a timestamp of when she noticed the bots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685073
>>23685965
t. 2view tard that botted his oshi and is now panicking because she will get banned
uh oh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685965
39.700 bots
Only 300 were certified real viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23686082
>>23686101
Holobronies coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>23686082
>/#/niggers trying to deflect HARD from the fact that they've escalated to raiding vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>23686202
trolling used to mean something

[Anonymous No.]

sasuga meido

[Anonymous No.]

Chumbros....

[Anonymous No.]

>[Deleted]

[Anonymous No.]

>[deleted] : 23 results
>prism shill is also the one spamming holobronies
I'm shocked, thank you meidos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
This is what botting really looks like Holobronies and Nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23686582
Already ban evading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23686555
Most of Prismfags are Hololive fans, probably a falseflagging Nijinigger. As always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23685757
I don't think sony would be this blatant.
>Suddenly 30k ccw on someone that averages 100

[Anonymous No.]

>engaging in fanbase wars instead of watching and talking about streams
the sad life of a catalog dramafag

[Anonymous No.]

>deleted
Nuke the numbernigger raid general too then, what the fuck is the point of that place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23687013
It's supposed to have containment purposes, but it's clearly not working.

[Anonymous No.]

>23686820
>in /#/
hehe oh you

[Anonymous No.]

>>23686777
I mean more like, someone else not Sony could be doing it just to make Sony look bad, to sabotage their reputation because now everyone will remember "the sony-purchased corpo started super-blatantly botting right after the deal."

I don't really care about prism nor sony but sony despite all its potential power has had failure after failure in this scene so I would think it could be a concerted effort to keep them out. After all, they could buy up both Anycolor and Cover if they really wanted potentially because they're one of the biggest companies in the world vs startups. So there I can see there being a push to keep their money/influence out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23687174
It could if this board actually had janitors who actually do their work and don't just ignore reports.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23687296
Sony never viewbotted VerseN. And they are much closer to them than they are to Prism. That should be enough of an evidence that they don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

see Fextralife
>embeds your twitch channel on your wikis
>gets a ton of viewers
>the algorithm likes you
>gets even more viewers
>profit

[Anonymous No.]

imagine if the scenario like this :

>someone decide that one of the talent need to be high boosted
>decide it on Luto because she has enough subscriber count for it
>telling the staff to jack up ccv for "that australian accent vtuber"
>they mistaken it for Sara

[Anonymous No.]

If some random anon can get so many bots then all the corpos are doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23689585
After they deleted Luna instead of Rushia during HoloFes I fully believe an incompetent/underpaid intern screwed up.

[Anonymous No.]

Good to know that /#/ lives rent free in all of the anon's heads even though they didn't do anything this time

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>>23690548
/#/ and Hololive will always lives rent free in Nijiniggers head.
>inb4 nijiniggers deflect with "some random discord trannies do not represent the whole fanbase"
Same logic: 1 random anon on this board botted Millie stream doesn't mean the whole /#/ is on board with it.

[Anonymous No.]

$11

[Anonymous No.]

>>23691149
>discord

yea, i'm not reading that

[Anonymous No.]

>>23690548
>this time
Numbertard...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23690548
>this time
So you admit the general and all IPs that have posted in it in the past 6 months should be permabanned?

Thanks retard

[Anonymous No.]

Sony can fake viewer counts. But can they fake subscriber counts?

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>>23691456
I know what I said, the Millie botted stream happened
>>23691524
Cope and seethe

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>>23687296
Why didn't Sony tell Sara to stop steaming? SHUT IT DOWN. They didn't because Sony was the one doing it and she couldn't stop either or she would be in violation of her contract. Sometimes the thing is as it seems. Sony botted.

[Anonymous No.]

This is #botgate. If Youtube hurts Sony, they will take Holo and Niji down with them. Bribes into leaks. We'll find out everyone's real numbers soon enough.

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>>23687296
>someone else, not Sony
Nah, it is more likely the bot coming from Sony itself if those vtuber are actually associated with them. Because it would give them a bad reputation if their vtuber only has 100 views on average, after all, there's no reason for them to not do that

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>>23691149
what is this? is this a clipper discord? wtf

[Anonymous No.]

My personal theory is Nijifujo. Well, they usually bot to Nijimales and it is not strange that 2view became their test subject.

This time bots are extremely strong and expensive as hell unlike Milie's bot. So it is pretty much impossible for numberfag did it.

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>>23677932
Are these viewers in the room with us?

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>700 1.7k 1.6k 1k 91k
it looks hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

Your options are Sony trying things on a different brand to see how it goes and some random pulling a devilish move because the small corpo got bought

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>>23694935
If it was done by Sony they would have bought maybe 2-4k bots max. Not 40k. This is clearly malicious and can lead to a ban. Why do this to your new property?

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>>23695054
it's possible they wanted to order 4k but someone typed one zero too many
we've seen from how they managed Kaguya Luna that they're absolute retards

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>>23695054
>Why do this to your new property
>Sony
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23694929
INCLINED

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>>23695054
Well, that's Sony for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23693584
I'll screencap this just in case this thing actually came from those fujo

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676846
Why would someone ruin a chuuba that plays Vegas. Now I'm inclined to watch.

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>>23695054
>This is clearly malicious and can lead to a ban. Why do this to your new property?
Did you miss when they torched the Spiderman franchise?

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>>23695054
It's Sony. They only know how to destroy shit that was previously good and create garbage.

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>>23677977
Prism is too small to be on the radar. She has no graphs that anons can track

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>>23695054
>Why do this to your new property?
The story of Kaguya Luna, who at the time Sony acquired her was set to become the biggest vtuber in the world.
Educate yourself.

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>>23696037
that was in reference to millie

[Anonymous No.]

Luto is streaming right now but only has like 100 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

Compelling.
If you don't think a company would run bots for fake engagement you are blessedly ignorant. Every company and many government agencies uses PR firms to form narratives and bot popularity across the net be it twitter, youtube, reddit, facebook and sometimes they'll even throw money to do the same thing here. It is perfectly within Sony's ability to say "throw viewbots here" with nothing more than an email. Feel kinda bad for the chick, she has to know it's mostly empty numbers that aren't real but she can't really do anything about it.

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But will she get paid for 90k views?

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>>23676377
I hope she acknowledges and apologises for the distorted view count.

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>>23681553
Why would you want your oshi to get more popular? Then they'll notice you less.

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>>23695054
do retards seriously think sony botted? versen exists btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>23698211
Why? It's not her fault

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>>23698424
I will support them even while drowning in a sea of simps. Even when they forget, I will still remember these growing times.

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>>23698424
That's not how it works. Veterans don't get replaced.

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>>23698211
she even put out the poll to see which viewers are legit, I doubt she's trying to hide that she's botting

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>>23701465
Yeah because people definitely dont panic when they get found out and try to downplay it

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>>23701975
ywnbaw

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>>23702164
thank fucking god for that

[Anonymous No.]

Sony did some chubas bad before
So they will do it again

Sony never viewbotted before
But they must’ve now

Nice cherry picking of history

Sony has far better legitimate but still evil ways to shill their streamers if they wanted to, you dumb fucks really think they viewbotted?
They could say start embedding the streams on their sites like Crunchyroll or the fucking ps5 home screens for example.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/saranagare/status/1522107775031021568

from the internal analytics

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>>23702381
If you get caught lying once there is no reason to ever trust you again on anything. Also, nice cherrypick of your own. They were already doing that with crunchyroll hime (who flopped)

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>>23702529
this is a autist way of thinking kek
things can change and people can change

if they’re already embedding streams on CR then it just reinforces my point, they don’t need to bot

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>>23702860
>they dont need to bot
>goes from 60avg viewers to 50000 with the vod (that cannot be embedded) still rising by the hour in views
Now I get it, you're a sony shill arent you? 1 of you retards got banned earlier, was it you and you are ban evading?
Get the fuck out of here faggot.

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>>23702860
People can change, greedy corporations not.

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>>23702391
Oh, watch it get to her head

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>>23677474
Kpopwhores and fujos are infamous for botting, also their viewership graphs make no fucking sense.

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>>23702923
High doubts of that after she did that poll.

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>>23681057
Does it count if it was used while Gura was talking about ponies?

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>>23702903
Missed my point completely

>>23702922
Right forgot corporations are ran by AI now and not people

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>>23677474
It's complicated, especially cause you need to know various youtube issues like waiting room recovery and how certain things can effect normal views (multiple povs, story beats with big reactions, surprise collabs). Whenever we've seen some weird youtube activity it generally spreads and often is noted by the tuber themselves. Youtube is broken anyway and I believe the Nijimales are solid 4-10k streamers. They are a big success regardless.

With that said, Nijimales graphs are very very odd. Or I should say, their buff content is very odd and their normal streams largely follow expected patterns. The typical streamer graph is a smooth trend to a peak till the stream ends or a smooth trend down. These guys shoot up fast, crash and then start to recover with huge spurts. Sometimes repeatedly, losing multiple 1000s and recovering multiple times isn't normal. They also often peak extremely early, plus will go from a 40k stream one day to 4k stream the next. Your average buff stream isn't that powerful.

Either some glitch is targeting just them, just on their buff content. Or it is bots/view farms.

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>>23704855
what if it just females with synchronised menstrual cycles that effect their viewing habits at different parts of months

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>>23694929
Slow and steady wins the race.

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>polls show that viewers are just bots because they don't vote
even twitch indies with ~500 viewers only get ~20% participation (100 votes) on a poll.
And that's smaller, more comfy streamers where the audience is more invested in watching/interacting than simply being having noise drone in the background
unless you want to tell me that a 3view can afford to pay for 300-400 bots every stream.

not saying botting is happening to Prism's streams after the sony buyout, just you can't expect 100% - or even 50% - engagement from polls.

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>>23706066 (m)
>botting isn't* happening

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>>23702860
People don't change.
- House MD

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>>23706066
Funny you say that, because Polls from youtube usually hit as much, if not higher than the CCV depending on how long it's been up. Reason being, youtube just cuts the actual CCV by half for whatever reason.

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>>23704855
This is just retarded schizoposting from /#/ faggots jealous over their success.
Nijimales have big numbers when they do content that panders to fujos and yumejos that are only there to coom or parasocial dump in their superchats. When they're playing games or doing normal zatsudan talk they get average 4-10k views but when they do anything that remotely appeals to lonely women their viewers skyrocket. It's same exact shit that happens in Hololive any time they do a fanservice or gimmicky stream and get instant 30k views when most of them average 4-10k normally.

The way their graph drops early and rises steadily is just Susan verifying the VPN's of their Chinese viewers in batches after mass culling all the VPN views 10 minutes into the stream. Keep in mind most of those women aren't fluent in English and only tune in for large celebration or fanservice content the same way EOPs treat HoloJP, so the effect is much less pronounced in their normal streams. This effect is also seen in pretty much any type of K-pop content where the vast majority of viewers are overseas women who only show up for big events.

Lastly, don't forget to take your meds.

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>>23707024
Sorry but your cope is bad here as it is anywhere. Normal buff content is not strong enough to boost your views x10. This is not what we see in hololive, they don't all suddenly shoot up to 30k for a basic unarchive karaoke from 5k. It takes a much bigger more unique event for anything close. The boost usually is fairly proportional to popularity.

If you want your VPN theory to take hold go actually investigate and post proof. We've already seen bots can bypass and get culled. 11$ happened cause you couldn't accept anyone could be botting streams. It also helps explain things like low poll engagement or vod views compared to holo streams with similar of less ccv. Your VPN cope has nothing going for it right now.

>rises steadily
Apart from that isn't the issue, steadiness has nothing to do with it. In fact the opposite is partly why it stands out

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>>23707741
>birthday stream
>normal buff content
>when holos regularly get 10x boosts on their birthday and outfit reveal streams it's suddenly preposterous for a niji to get 20k views on their birthday
fuck off and kill yourself

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>>23695054
Intern-kun heard 450k when Sony told him only 45.

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>>23707824
Chink I think you've got your whole argument mixed up. Never did I claim stronger buff content from Nijimales doesn't also worm. I did however point out how normal buff content doesn't have a x10 effect on Holos. That image was demonstrating your rises steadily claim, where we see anything but. In fact it isn't even very good numbers for a birthday.

This is why no one believes you, it is just vomiting excuses and jumping to new points. Normal fans would just go yeah that's weird.

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>>23708035
Literally the only times any of the Niji males got a 10x buff was for doing karaoke and they were all unarchived streams where people showed up specifically knowing they wouldn't be able to watch the vod.
Vox's birthday stream was largely just a normal talk, the numbers were underwhelming because Susan culled them at the very start of the stream when he had 15k in the waiting room before he even went live and it took 30 minutes to reach that number with Susan constantly culling and adding views back. When Holos get their waiting rooms culled like Gura's karaokes going from 30k in waiting room to 10k when she starts streaming you faggots do nothing but whine about Susan stealing legitimate views but when it happens to Nijis suddenly it must be bots based off nothing but your own delusions and inferences of what the "real" viewership should be.
You're a fucking retard and your general should've been culled to /trash/ ages ago after the Millie botting bullshit proved none of you faggots are at all interested in promoting the growth of vtubers as a whole and just use numbers to attack and harass anyone outside of Hololive.

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>>23708355
>>23707741
The graph litterally shows he recovered his waiting room instantly, what the hell are you even talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

PRISM era

[Anonymous No.]

>>23694929
>>23702391
>>23676377
>there are still retards in this board who think CCV or subs is a reliable way to gauge popularity
>>23682443

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677977
And that faggot only bought 5k views for 11$ because he thought it would just end up being a scam.
Someone else (probably one of the Luxfujos who was scared of /#/ getting too close to figuring out their method) muddied the waters by buying more bots (without posting anything) boosting it to 13k.
They were successful.

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>>23677474
First ever confirmed botting incidents with VTubers were with this guy on 22nd and 24th December.
Soon after that, Youtube implemented a new half-assed anti-bot policy that ruined the CCV of a bunch of VTubers for 2 weeks.
Connect the dots.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't HoloEN had like 50-60%CCV/Votes ratio?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678389

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>23678389
>what does this have to do with hololive?
Pic related but change it to "anons on /vt/" and "Hololive's Law" and Kiara is "Hololive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>23679673
Yeah, we're the evil super bad biggest villainous group in this entire board mwahahahahaha
keep believing it and stay the fuck out of our comfy thread

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>>23687296
Nah, this is just Vox's fujo fans testing out viewbots/farms.
First phase was this : >>23713241
Second phase was targetting a random indie (Koron) who got 10k CCV for a random stream, but whose VOD after processing became just 1.6k, wiping all those views (likely due to being from the exact same IP range, indicating Viewfarms).
Third phase was this snake girl.

Notice how after the 1st phase, they also botted Amelia and Ollie in order to throw off their trail, and in the 2nd and 3rd phase they aren't targetting any corpos who are tracked in statistics sites, just random indies or small corpos.

Viewfarming is very common among the Chinese, because there literally everyone is cheating, and if you are the only person not doing it, you will never get anywhere in life.
The entire country has broken window syndrome.

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>>23713510

[Anonymous No.]

All those views... gone... like tears in the rain...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714690
>memebers

You had one job

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716505
I literally jwu

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716576
>>23714690
Vei is more successful than most Holos and Pippa worships the ground they walk on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717506
>Vei is more successful
That doesn't change the fact she still seethes at Hololive and doubled down on her seethe when confronted about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23690548
>Good to know that /#/ lives rent free in all of the anon's heads
They also live rent-free in botted vtubers concurrent viewership lol.

[Anonymous No.]

I unsubbed from all the girls. I think Sony botting their talents is a disgusting way to get viewers to watch your stream and be more appealing to investors. Of all the things people were worried about after the acquisition i can't believe this would be the first thing to go south.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717836
you were never subbed in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

Sara deserves to be the number one vtuber in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713241
>Connect the dots

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676614
Probably lag then

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676801
>partnership?
Sony bought PRISM

[Anonymous No.]

>>23681462
I had no idea about this. What could have been...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23692812
Then why they aren't botting the Verse girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23691684
what do you think triggered the sub deletions on holo and nijimales? their fans bought sub bots and got caught
Numbers don't mean SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714203

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>>23676377
cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>23720608
Sony is huge and massively uncoordinated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23676377
not my problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717836
Kys falseflagger

[Anonymous No.]

>>23686057

around 1:06:00

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit at these “Sony did it” rrats
How dumb are you cunts?
It’s so obvious that Microsoft did it to make Sony look bad
You can really tell who owns the Xboxes in this thread kek
Sony repeatedly releases the most successful video gaming consoles on this planet, they’re not that incompetent
Go seathe somewhere else Xbox faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>23739575
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741965
Literally brining the "console war" to the vtuber world, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744895
Sony didn’t start it, Xbox did. Stop blaming Sony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741965
That's such a weird way to spell Nintendo

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741965
...anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741965
>>23744981
>Xbox supports hololive
Okay anon, you convinced me. These Microsoft bastards will pay for what they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23677077
>Females with penises
You mean men