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Youtube added the ability to raid other streamers to their platform. What kind of drama will this cause among vtubers?

>> No.23617318

>>23617259
I think it will be an option that Cover will not enable for their talents.

>> No.23617349

>>23617259
I can't wait to see the shitstorms this will cause.

>> No.23617361
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23617361

>Drama
None, because you have complete control over who it works for. Fuck off.

>> No.23617394

>>23617259
They'll ignore it just like membership gifting. I'm sure there will be a rare case of someone using it and 5 threads being made here because they raided X instead of Y so that means they hate them or something.

>> No.23617395

Nothing because raids barely do anything for growth unless it’s Gawr Gura or Kson that raids you.

>> No.23617421

>>23617259
This reads as you trying really hard to create drama out of something that will mostly not even be enabled by bigger corporations. Fuck off.

>> No.23617453

>>23617318
Big corpos will almost 100% opt out.
The real shitstorm is going to be in the small indies seething at being raided or NOT being raided. Whatever gives them more whining rights.

>> No.23617459

>>23617318
I think the opposite, I think cover will take this as an opportunity to have managers auto promote other girls
Sure, the talents themselves probably won't be fully in charge of it, but they will definitely use it

Issue is they might use it to aggressively promote things on the hololive EN channel

>> No.23617475

GURA REDIRECT
GURA REDIRECT
that will totally catch on. Great naming sense, as usual YouTube.

>> No.23617486

>>23617361
>Streamber

>> No.23617505

>>23617259
At least for this, there will be chaos among us

>> No.23617513

I don't like YouTube becoming Twitch.

>> No.23617530

>>23617453
Being a small indie on youtube is asking to get fucked so whatever.

>> No.23617564

>>23617513
As long as they never allow those annoying emotes, we're good

>> No.23617614

Ame seething right now

>> No.23617640

>>23617614
EN manager forcing Ame to raid other girls lmao i can see it now

>> No.23617655

>>23617394
Pretty sure Lamy had membership gifting going the other day.

>> No.23617736

>>23617655
Source? I seriously doubt Cover would allow this either.

>> No.23617781

>>23617736
>source
Are you new? Many JP Holos have had gifting enabled for months.

>> No.23617796

>>23617259
Sykkuno just moved over to YT too! Now he can raid Gura

>> No.23617818

>>23617781
I don't watch JP holos.

>> No.23617891

>>23617361
This is definitely gonna lead to a hyperinflation of dead subs in the indie chuuba market. Lots of people gonna sub to each other just so they can possibly raid each other in the future.

>> No.23617907

>>23617781
>>23617736
>>23617655
this never happened, this feature isn't even out yet for testing

>> No.23617909

Everyone will raid Comma because funny stapler girl.

>> No.23617910

>>23617486
Small indie company please andastando

>> No.23617955

>>23617564
MonkaS that's not very PoG Kappa of you!

>> No.23618001

>>23617361
I think most channels have subscriptions set to private, it's the default setting.

>> No.23618026

>>23617909
Can't wait to fall asleep to cute ASMR girl making cute noises only to wake 30 mins later to stapled vagina screaming.

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>>23617891
As a dead sub for all of Holo, I can tell you that the effect of what you're describing will be negligible compared to what it already is

>> No.23618091

>>23617259
Why would it cause drama when Twitch already has it? You don't really hear anybody complaining.

>> No.23618165

>>23618091
Nooooo you can't add raids because...you just can't!!

>> No.23618177

>>23617259
Given the tight restrictions, large corps like Holo/Niji will just whitelist their own channels. Any raids will be strictly be inside their own ecosystem. As for the rest? Small corps will probably whitelist each other, while indies will badger each other for some notion of discoverability.

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>>23617736
Pekora also had one and Suisei had it also on recently https://youtu.be/ofLCymAg4fM?t=72

>> No.23618186

>>23617361
Wonder if this will work the same for MCN like Hololive and Niji? Maybe they got some sort of special treatment?

>> No.23618191

>>23617907
https://twitter.com/ytcreatorsjapan/status/1489048493922693123?t=vN6Rla4eOKV1CC0_h_x7Ew&s=19
>Feb 2, 2022
Keep up grandpa.

>> No.23618196

>>23617891
Even indies or small corpos have subs in the thousands. How many vtubers could sub to each other, without previously being subbed, just to raid? 30? 100? It won't even change the displayed number due to rounding.

>> No.23618219

>>23618091
>Why would it cause drama when Twitch already has it
>drama
>twitch
All Twitch is is a a bunch of highschool social rejects starting drama. The whole damn platform is just known for practically being a bunch of whiny bitchy women gossiping about one another.

>> No.23618228

>>23618026
This will definitely happen since she is friends with Mai-chan who does ASMR all the time.

>> No.23618261

Thus died the numbers thread
Good riddance

>> No.23618290

>>23618219
Yes, that was kind of my point. You don't see any drama related to raiding that wouldn't exist anyway.

>> No.23618331

>>23618181
>>23618191
AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

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>>23618290

>> No.23618398

>>23618196
Judging from those totally-not-trying-to-boost-metric vtuber twitter posts asking for vtubers to post their images/introduce themselves, probably a couple hundred for sure.

>>23618196
>Even indies or small corpos have subs in the thousands.

For every indie and small corpo with a thousand subs, there's dozens with sub 500. Hell, one indie I've been following for almost a year now is only just about to hit 1k subs after one of her song covers got really good traction in the algorithm for some reason.

>> No.23618458

>>23617259
>Youtube becoming infested with more Twitch "features"
Fuck oooooooffff this isn't what I signed up for keep the twitch shit away from meeeeeee

>> No.23618468

>>23618290
are you new or foolish?

>> No.23618520

>>23617259
>What kind of drama will this cause among vtubers?
We already had such drama. Mysta raiding his ID gf, instead of one of noctyx guys that had birthday stream.

>> No.23618524

>>23617459
Raiding could already be a thing in hololive, but it isn’t. It isn’t hololive culture.

>> No.23618569

>>23618458
>noooo! giant mega corp cant copy other giant mega corp!

>> No.23618654

>>23617259
This is cool and all.
But it's still not going to fix youtube's discoverability issue. I don't get why youtube doesn't just add a live streaming tab or something.

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>>23617259
Miko will raid Pekora whenever she's done, Pekora won't raid Miko back when the situation presents itself.

>> No.23618769

>>23618524
Maybe used for future debut funneling.

>> No.23618773

>>23617453
This already exist on twitch and there no raid drama

>> No.23618796

>>23617259
>need to be subscribed to the other creator
meh nothing is going to happen, big corpos will just have a stronger BOX

>> No.23618806

>>23618664
cover will mandate everyone to not use that feature

>> No.23618845

>>23617259
Tons i am guessing the company's will implement a rule that says not too raid as a reaction to this new youtube feature. But will normal fag streamers listen to it probably not and there is where the drama will stem from. Imagine fucking Valkyrae raids pekora or pewdiepie raids gura shit is nightmare fuel and makes my stomach churn.

>> No.23618865

>>23617361
oh wow, this is actually decently thought and not just copying Twitch. Susan, I kneel.

>> No.23618872

>Kiara: "Why does nobody ever raid my streams?"

>> No.23618904

>>23618845
retard

>> No.23618946

>>23618904
Ogey faggot go kill yourself

>> No.23619029

>>23618664
Idk can you raid VOD?

>> No.23619041

>>23618872
>Fuck these antisocial bitches, Imma raid Pomu!

>> No.23619096

>>23617259
>tfw migo uses this to further harass the rabbit.
Can't wait.

>> No.23619143

>>23619096
>>23618664
pekora will allow anyone in hololive to raid her, but will specifically disable it for miko

>> No.23619163

>>23618769
This, and karaoke relays, are times I see it might actually be used. Otherwise I think most in HoloEN won't use it. FBK might on the JP side but most won't use it over there either.

>> No.23619174

>>23618845
>>23617361
Unwanted raids will be able to be prevented.

>> No.23619216

>>23617349
The malding from twitch elitists who claim raids as an integral part of why twitch is better will be magical

>> No.23619241

>>23617361
It's nice that they have options to let you be selective with who raids you, but requiring your sub list to be public is stupid.

>> No.23619251

Can't wait to raid every single vtuber with my 0view stream, so they would have to thank me and give me attention for free! Just like on my Twitcherinos!

>> No.23619318

>>23618001
>>23619241
I think youtube miscommunicated that one. you can manually set who can raid to you
https://youtu.be/QV8gOpyImsQ?t=73

>> No.23619362

Can't wait for Nina to raid Pomu with her dead channel.

>> No.23619394

>>23619251
Won't work like that, they'd have to be subbed to you.

>> No.23619471

>>23617259
>You didn't raid me! I'm going to create drama with twitter screenshots!
>You forgot to enable raids you idiot

>> No.23619564

Relays are pretty much the only scenario this feature would be useful for.

>> No.23619585

>>23618654
They did
It's garbage that doesn't show chuubas

>> No.23619607

>>23618261
The thread didn't die. CCV isn't all, stupid faggot

>> No.23619671

>>23618773
>This already exist on twitch and there no raid drama
Kek. Hate Raids are mayor problem on twitch.

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>>23618654
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4R8DWoMoI7CAwX8_LjQHig
It's been in the sidebar for years.

>> No.23619713

>>23619607
>CCV isn't all
Yes it is.

>> No.23619806

>>23619564
It's great for keeping people watching corpos. Pekora raiding Roboco, Vox raiding Petra, etc. Like raiding on Twitch, most will leave after the person they were watching leaves, but if even 5% stick around, that's a pretty big win for the smaller channel. Plus people can raid big events, like birthday streams or 3D Lives.

>> No.23619855

>>23619699
Like >>23619585 said, it doesn't ever show vtubers. It'll only show sponsored content and shit like tv news and late night comedy shit.
There could be a big 100k vtuber event going on and you wouldn't know it by looking at that page.

>> No.23619875

>Requires 1k subs to raid or get raided
Lmao, choke on dick 2views, make enough content on your own before you start leeching

>> No.23619906

>>23617394
membership gifting is exclusive to JP bros only

>> No.23619927

>>23619699
It doesn't work. It only shows five or so shitty random streams that have nothing to do with my interests.

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>>23617259
I can see Kiara raiding Pomu over Mori

>> No.23619978

Possible drama: corpo member A ends stream and chooses to raid member X instead of member Y. Then the corpo circles become even smaller as they gossip about hating each other off-screen.

>> No.23620011

>>23619932
God could you imagine the meltdown here.
Like when Fubuki retweeted Fiana or whoever (probably on accident.) it was shitposted all day.

>> No.23620073

>>23619932
would love to see that lol

>> No.23620082

It's always cringe when a big streamer raids another big streamer.

>> No.23620089

>>23619585
>>23619699
Whoops, your right.
Holy shit that sucks though, I was thinking something like, at least showing you shit based on what you watch.

>> No.23620101

>>23618865
I mean Youtube can't be retarded 100% of the time.

>> No.23620104

Twitch raids have been a thing forever, and they don't even have all these restrictions on who you can raid or allow to raid you.

It already causes basically 0 problems. If it ever causes a problem on YouTube, you can just not follow someone, and then they can't raid you. Problem solved.

Large streamers and corpos will either just turn it off, or will just use it for inter-company relays and close friends.

>> No.23620156

>>23619932
Well considering their streaming times, there's no chance for Kiara to ever raiding Mori on non-special occasions.

>> No.23620169

>>23619699
That doesn't let me filter by vtubers. The best thing I've found is to search for vtubers and filter it by Live. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vtuber&sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253D

>> No.23620226

>>23617891
Are you retarded

>> No.23620229

If anyone of note enables this I predict /vt/sisters will drive themselves mad with rrats about who is raiding or not raiding who and why

>> No.23620230

>>23619855
>>23619927
Probably better luck in the Gaming section for VTubers, but not by much.

>> No.23620393

>>23620104
The difference between Youtube and Twitch is that Twitch is run by humans, so they can let the raid feature have no restrictions and then some staff can step in on the rare instance that it causes trouble. Youtube, however, has basically zero staff, so they need to bake in all these huge restrictions to prevent any problems ahead of time, because if there is any problem it won't be fixed for months.

>> No.23620404

>>23620226
Profoundly. But what does that have to do with my post? Just look at how many useless "drop your png" posts there are on twitter. You think that won't turn into "sub for sub so we can raid each other" tweets? https://twitter.com/search?q=vtubers%20drop%20your%20pngs&src=typed_query&f=top

>> No.23620487

>>23619318
So pretty much
each talent will just added a list of the company members
and figure out with their manager which outside chuuba is allowed to raid them
A new rrat will start
NijiEN & HoloEN(+ID) raiding people like Pikamee and Pochi-sensei but never raid each other
at some point you will have Pomu and Kiara raiding the same person at same time just to send a message

>> No.23620627

>>23617318
Which isn't smart because it would increase viewership among their talents.

>> No.23620673

>>23617394
>5
Make it 10.

>> No.23621795

it's pretty funny watching you drama addled retards act like some established basic feature is actually some nefarious yab waiting to happen

>> No.23621902

>7:47 est
>no streams
I hope we got someone like Sana who loves streaming at some point. Kiara seems to constantly cover EU time atleast, we get random dead hours all over the place here in est.

>> No.23621966

>>23621795
Anon is either this or the discord orchestrated "x bad!" thread popping every 30 minutes on the catalog, your choice.

>> No.23621968

>>23617318
I think Cover would set a new rule to only raid for big events.
e.g if a holo is streaming before a 3D live stream she has to raid.

>> No.23621983

>>23617318
This, Kronii tried to raid Fauna early on and got her ass chewed out by management.

>> No.23622096

>>23617361
Vox will share his wealth to other nijien boys and girl
incoming all 20k+ stream everyday

>> No.23622217

>>23617259
The most obvious is the """etiquette """ meme
Like 2views will host Pekora and if she doesnt mention their name she will be branded a cunt

>> No.23622246

>>23619029
>Idk can you raid VOD?
Maybe now those lazy fans can do their reps.

>> No.23622364

>>23619216
Well mechanics are different and has limitations in this case. The worry back then on twitch is that the bigger channels can raid with malicious intent on having their audience/chat fuck yours up, this time though you'd also have to sub to that person meaning you would know and like said content. A scenario like say xqc sending his toxic chat to Ina won't happen unless she allows it.
>>23619713
You underestimate the autistic numberfags. There's already someone who's been keeping track of every twitch stream that got raided for the day, that will just also happen to the youtube tallys. If anything this will just add more shit that'll pop up in the catalog like "X vtuber managed to have more CCV than a holo strea(because of raids), what now holobronies?"

>> No.23622501

>>23622217
That's no different from a random 2view typing in the chat and getting ignored.

>> No.23622509
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>>23617259
People seem to be fine with it.

Kson raided Roboco earlier on and there were no ramifications at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpeVZXNUVtA

>> No.23622546

>it's all anons rushing into the thread to try and make the same joke
>lul i can raid gura now and she'll be forced to thank me
>can't read the restrictions on raid
you're just as braindead as a retards on twitch

>> No.23622588

>>23622509
I mean there's nothing Cover can do against an "indie" raiding their streams, has another holo raided hers though?

>> No.23622745

>>23617259
Finana crying when no one ever raids her.

>> No.23622804

>>23617259
look at this fag thinking about drama instead of unity

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>>23622804
>unity

>> No.23623017

>>23617907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkXR6pvajc

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>>23617736
>>23617907
Yeah she did

>> No.23623386

>>23622804
>unity
Kek. This will fuel tribalism, not unity.

>> No.23623470

>>23622096
More like incoming giant spikes of viewers that drop off a cliff in 5 minutes everyday. Given how NijiEN tries so hard to prop up each other I can see them outright abusing this feature to try to numberfag harder.

>sure reimu was at 600 before but vox dumped 15k into her stream so now she's 15k too hurrrdrrr

No. She's still a fucking failure. Trying to cover it up doesn't make it any better.

>> No.23623724

>>23623322
Happy.

>> No.23624072

>>23619564
I can see chuubas who end their streams early to not overlap with some reveal using it to direct their viewers there. Might as well.

>> No.23624179

>>23620104
those raids and their concept of subathon are one of the reasons that twitch sucks. it breeds drama because normal streamers get acquainted with drama streamers. they cant exactly ignore because it seems impolite. but thats the reason why they think socialize = better when there are times its not. holos like ollie even fall for this

>> No.23624299

>>23622509
cute

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>>23622804
>unity
You fags are gonna be the ones crying and whining about how a holo didn't raid someone else's stream.

>> No.23625493

>>23617259
This requires autoplay to be enabled on the user end to get transferred.

>> No.23625632

>>23623470
>No. She's still a fucking failure. Trying to cover it up doesn't make it any better.
Time for you to make more bait threads saying that than they ever would've made then

>> No.23626958

>>23625493
To be automatically transferred, yes. It'll still show where the streamer wants to send you if you want to manually click to go there.

>> No.23627322

>>23625108
Kiara will raid Pomu day 1 and you will commit suicide

>> No.23627445

>>23621983
Source?

>> No.23627832

>>23621983
>>23627445
Kronii told people near debut to raid Fauna and they spammed Fauna's chat with "KRONII RAID" for several minutes. Management didn't bonk her from what I recall but shes never done it since iirc.

>> No.23628531

>>23622509
this was on twitch and nobody watches RBC anyway

>> No.23629280

>>23619251
>>23622546
Why do people even think Gura or whoever would be forced to thank someone for a 2 view raid in the first place? This isn’t a issue on Twitch, if the raid is tiny the streamer just ignores it. Some Holos don’t even thank all their donators.

>> No.23630018

>>23618769
I mean whenever there are new debuts anyone who stops streaming usually tells their chat to go watch it already anyway. Anyone who cares enough will go watch, and anyone who doesn't will just leave regardless of if they're automatically redirected there or not.

>> No.23630189

>>23617259
This is the dumbest move I've ever seen from a corpo.

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>>23617655
>>23617736
Interesting How EN's like Ina, IRyS and i also think Kiara? were saying that they didn't want gifted memberships to have access to their members streams.
Looks like the jps are going all in on it.

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23631687

>>23620011
The possibility of Fubiki thinking Fiana was in HoloEN will never not be the funniest rrat.

>> No.23631701

>>23630732
Most JPs barely do member streams compared to EN. They see membership in the old way where member streams are bonuses and its mainly a way of supporting the holo and getting emotes.

>> No.23631984

>>23631687
I will always enjoy anything Fubuking does.

>>23622588
No, but I fully expect Haachama to do so eventually.

>> No.23632291

does this mean Gura will sing the Jerma raid song?

>> No.23632617

Could be useful for 1 POV collabs

>> No.23632964

VIEWER DROP IMMINENT

>> No.23633202

>>23617736
Watame mentioned reaching a new personal high thanks to the gifts a couple of months ago.
There was a chat metric that put her as a top 3 holo in term of members (only Pekora and Gura had more unique green names in chat), so the effect of gifts is quite noticeable.

>> No.23633305

>>23630732
Bullshit
They did not say this

>> No.23633480

>>23617259
Will Kiara be allowed to raid Pomu?

>> No.23633721

>>23620104
I uave no intrest in a large influx of people joining chat yelling about how 'X!' sent them. It kills all momentum of anyone who has the ability to entertain and people get pissy if they get ignored because they feel like the streamer is ignoring 'X', not the garbage riffraff who show up for 5 minutes before leaving.

>> No.23633876

>>23633305
Kiara literally talked about possibly making a different tier. 1 for gifted subs who would be able to see things like memebers posts and another for people who actually go out of their way to subscribe. She likes her members streams and doesn't want an influx of people who don't really care to show up to them because it ruins the 'ambience' that she either enjoys or tried to build for her members because they like it.

>> No.23633953

>>23617259
Twitch had it for years and nothing bad happen.
You holobronnies are a sad bunch

>> No.23634041

>>23633876
The gatekeeper

>> No.23634214

>>23633876
Objectively retarded move if real, only end result for it is stunned growth and viewer lose because she show herself as a petty cunt while gifted subs would not even have an influence on the member only content, for every 20 gift 1 person would show up in a member only.

>> No.23634263

>>23619251
Ask me how i know you are an holobronnie and doesn't even know how twitch works

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>>23633305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYKZqiIQ0rY&t=5130s
At exactly 1:25:30 IRyS say she doesn't wanted gifted members to have acess to membership stream only emotes.

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>>23633305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYKZqiIQ0rY&t=5130s
At exactly 1:25:30 IRyS says she doesn't want gifted members to have access to membership streams.

>> No.23634919

>>23634673
>doesn't give a reason
At first I thought it was to keep antis out but they'll just pay the $5 for all the yabs on member streams. Also who the fuck calls emotes "stickers"? Dumbest shit I've ever heard.

>> No.23637755

>>23634263
Ask me how i know you're an underage normalfaggot that should go back

>> No.23637908

>>23617259
Great, now bring back community captions.

>> No.23638648

>>23617453
I can see luxiem raiding nijiEN girls

>> No.23638707

>>23617259
I knew that Susan wasn't a developer

>> No.23639085

>>23617361
These raids are kind of lame, but I guess this cuts down on drama, whatever.

>> No.23639269

>>23633953
Twitch is cancer, nijizhang

>> No.23639310

>>23622804
>unity
How ironic for the king of all faggots to be calling others gay.
Give me drama and rrats or give me death.

>> No.23639335

Well. Twitch is kill.

>> No.23639456

>>23617259

Some chuuba already using that in a better way.

Mori raiding her own music video after 3D Live end boosting CCV on the spot.

>> No.23639497

>>23619029
only permier or Livestream, i guess?

>> No.23639559

>>23630732
Because only nip can get free gift membership from other nip who paid for it.

>> No.23639593

>>23639335
not just kill. it was slaughter and left to dry.

>> No.23639979

>>23617361
Third post best post

>> No.23640115

>>23617505
AMOGUS

>> No.23641067

>>23617259
X ended the stream and didn't raid Y, even though Y was streaming. They hate each other!

>> No.23641131

>>23639335
Lol

>> No.23641241

>>23633876
Can't do it without outright putting all memberonly content t2+ and that will have more of the death of KFP numbers as effect

>> No.23641569

>>23638648
Imagine Vox raiding Reimu, she'll have an endless orgasm.

>> No.23641614

>>23639335
Good riddance.

>> No.23644164

>>23641569
You're wrong. She will mald because it's Vox.
10/10 would watch.

>> No.23644305

>>23619699
Youtube is so well thought out that most people didn't know that bar exists.

>> No.23644435

>>23618181
Pleiades you fucker cheating on Luna!

>> No.23647158

>>23617259
>>23622509

>> No.23647698

>>23634919
LINE calls it's reaction images stickers.

>> No.23650415

>>23641241
Chat emotes and member badge could easily be given to gifted subs while all the other stuff (posts, streams, etc) are locked away for $6 a month instead of $5. If a dollar is gonna break the bank, you shouldn't be spending money on membership anyways. You don't lose very much doing this and give another option other than SC for your fans to give you more money.

>> No.23652466

>>23617259
Will Holos raid other Holos?

>> No.23653339

>>23650415
can you imagine how corpo vtubers would go nuts if youtube allows member emotes on other channels like Twitch does.

>> No.23653553

>>23617259
THE END TIMES ARE UPON US FINALLY WE HAVE THE FINAL YAB

>> No.23653677

>>23617259
>Drama
Why are latinx like this?

>> No.23654792

Mori will keep redirecting to the TT fags

>> No.23658829

>>23617361
So a nothing burger then?

>> No.23658960

>>23654792
Only /vt/ would seethe about it.

>> No.23663095
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23663095

>>23617259
>What kind of drama will this cause among vtubers?
A lot of imagined drama when X doesn't raid Y, meaning THEY HATE EACHOTHER.

>> No.23664593

>>23618081
>indie
not everything is about holo anon

>> No.23666075

>>23622096
roru as if dirty chinks cared about other nijis other than vox

>> No.23666125

>>23622804
Feels like an all out war

>> No.23667035

>>23650415
Making gifted membership lacking benefits is retarded though.
And any streamer making locking content past tier1 on the purpose to gatekeep the gifted out is even more retarded.
Only schizos from this place would think either are good
>>23653339
No i can't because only a /vt/ schizo would seeth about that

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