This is actually very concerning. What happened to Hololive's growth? It just completely capped off after a certain point. Is there any possible way Holo can re-capture that lightning in a bottle growth rate?

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Anonymous Mon May 2 15:01:56 2022 No.23542437 [Reply] [Original]

This is actually very concerning. What happened to Hololive's growth? It just completely capped off after a certain point.

Is there any possible way Holo can re-capture that lightning in a bottle growth rate?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:02:43 2022 No.23542466 The pandemic is over, that's it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:03:21 2022 No.23542492 Putin cured wuflu overnight by making journalists forget about it. Causing people to go outside again and forget about vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:03:40 2022 No.23542500 more lockdowns?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:03:45 2022 No.23542504 Go back to your containment thread

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:06:17 2022 No.23542593 pandemic over niche losing its new toy smell time to jump ship

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:08:14 2022 No.23542668 >>23542504 piss off we're full

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:10:40 2022 No.23542766 File: 159 KB, 929x1440, 1633025938139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:11:02 2022 No.23542784 >>23542437 Jumped to their actual language, since there is alternatives. Or maybe YT finally start recognizing bots.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:15:33 2022 No.23542966 Turns out there is a finite number of weebs out there, who would have thought.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:15:52 2022 No.23542985 >>23542437 >lightning in a bottle The whole definition of that phrase is that they can't

Anonymous Mon May 2 15:23:13 2022 No.23543263

Gura falling is both hilarious and obvious. She’s one of the most basic, white bread, mediocre Vtubers pretty much carried by a cute model and nothing else. Pretty finally are seeing past that a year later and she still hasn’t done anything unique or significant.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:24:43 2022 No.23543318 >>23542437 >Pandemic already in the end phase >Vtuber market already flourish with many alternatives >Hololive already pass it's novelty and too comfortable to experiment This is a natural phase of Hololive

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:25:37 2022 No.23543355 >>23542985 That is not, in fact, what the phrase means. ESL?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:26:26 2022 No.23543378 Every weeb is already aware of them, and has decided to watch them or not. The only growth possibility now is the normie market.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:26:29 2022 No.23543380 >>23542437 Youtube is periodically culling subs. A few holos talked about it, IRyS did IIRC

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:26:40 2022 No.23543389 >>23543263 Feels like Gura has given up and is just coasting. On streaming and singing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:27:06 2022 No.23543407 >>23542437 holo x. it wasnt really necessary. like niji, they eat up each other

Anonymous Mon May 2 15:31:13 2022 No.23543570

I blame the explosive growth of Hololive on lyger and his band aids shit, Miko saying nigga and Coco, now there's no Coco, chuubas can't say nigger anymore and lyger lives his life forever regretful of the fact that he introduced Hololive to a bunch of ironic weebs EOPs in one hand and Schizophrenics on the other.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:32:22 2022 No.23543605 >>23542784 >bots YouTube can't even tell the difference between history, social commentary, hate speech, and food reviewers. No fucking way do they know what a bot looks like.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:34:19 2022 No.23543692 >>23543570 u cant say it either

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:35:16 2022 No.23543722 >>23543407 People said this about Gen 5 too.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:35:25 2022 No.23543729 >>23543570 I thought he was too busy begging Matsuri to let him sniff her farts.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:39:53 2022 No.23543902 >>23543570 >>23543729 For real, what is this nigger on about? Last time Lyger was relevant was during the hando and he was on full on cope mode.

Anonymous Mon May 2 15:41:58 2022 No.23543973

>>23543570
Coasting on racism is unsustainable since the right wing will try to cancel you the moment you offend them. (See /pol/ still trying and failing to cancel Nina)
If you want the Coco's anti-idol experience, watch Nijisanji EN.
https://youtu.be/mIv5JTrZNfc?t=16021

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:50:22 2022 No.23544283 >>23543902 How was he relevant then? The cunt hasn't been relevant in years. All he does is shit up Matsuri's chat. He hasn't even translated anything to promote her in ages.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:52:01 2022 No.23544364 >>23544283 People were making fun of him as Matsuri's biggest simp by posting his cope tweets. It was like people posting Orca's shit during the Rushia drama.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:52:54 2022 No.23544402 Reminder that this month is final's month before summer vacation

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:54:16 2022 No.23544464 >>23544402 Summer vacation hasn't meant shit for over a decade, especially since they can all just phone post.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:54:43 2022 No.23544493 >>23542437 why can't you retards stay in your shitty containment thread? fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 15:55:53 2022 No.23544545 >>23544493 kys

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:16:08 2022 No.23545421 >>23544545 stop shitting up the board with your number wankery, you cancerous faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:22:11 2022 No.23545738 >>23545421 yeah, the Mori baits are better

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:23:27 2022 No.23545817 >>23542766 Ayame's live sex show would net a million viewers, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:24:25 2022 No.23545866 >>23545738 >whataboutism

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:29:31 2022 No.23546119 >>23542437 Bidem won the elections so Covid is no longer a thing

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:29:55 2022 No.23546138 >>23543570 No idea who is that guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:30:35 2022 No.23546176 >>23544402 >summer vacation lmao what age do you think the vtuber fanbase is?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:32:58 2022 No.23546292 >>23545866 seethe

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:33:10 2022 No.23546303 >>23546138 Why are Redditors like this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:33:48 2022 No.23546328 >>23543973 >the right wing will try to cancel you the moment you offend them. nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:35:32 2022 No.23546411 >>23543973 *The left

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:36:19 2022 No.23546451 >>23542466 no it isn't

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:37:14 2022 No.23546501 File: 2.25 MB, 764x510, 1633325006907.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23546328 >>23546411

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:38:49 2022 No.23546581 >>23543389 With 40+ member streams she is more active than her senpais.

Anonymous Mon May 2 16:41:20 2022 No.23546697

>>23542437
This is for all digital entertainment. Netflix stock went down as well.

Pandemic is over. Lockdowns forced people to look for entertainment and social interaction online. Now that people is going out again watching vtubers is returning to it's actual market size which is many times smaller.

But don't worry Anon... Next pandemic is just around the corner.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:43:03 2022 No.23546773 >>23546451 It is in many countries. And even if you go full hurr durr technically it isn't, it was lockdowns that made people stay at home and look for a form of social interaction.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:43:49 2022 No.23546812 >>23546697 >Now that people is going out again watching vtubers is returning to it's actual market size which is many times smaller. God willing, the lazy whores of HoloEN will find in this the severe retribution necessary for their crimes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:47:08 2022 No.23546971 The weeb market is limited, so infinite growth isn't possible. Everyone who would have had an interest in VTubers is already subscribed.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:47:09 2022 No.23546972 >>23546812 NTA but hololive and Niji are relatively safe and will remain successful. It's the literal 2views that will suffer from the shrinking market.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:48:08 2022 No.23547026 Vtubers are a niche market, the honeymoon period is over so the audience is stabilizing. Hololive can probably experience more growth if someone like GuraGawr does a big stream or subathon on Twitch but even that will be temporary.

Anonymous Mon May 2 16:50:46 2022 No.23547150

>fubuki hasn't gained 10k in 30 days
>haachama has only gained 10k since January or February
>gura doesn't get the 10k she used to get in a week
>aqua has fucked off since losing in the tournament and hasn't been gaining good subs lately
>korone and marine as OP has said
Its fucking over, history WILL repeat itself like a ripple, and chuubas will go back to their state back in 2018-2019 only slightly better

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:51:33 2022 No.23547197 >>23546812 >lazy whores of HoloEN they're lazy because the cash flows in already, anonchama. You saw Millie's YT leak, right? at the very least multiply that to 2x for the rest of the Council.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 16:53:00 2022 No.23547273 Pretty much everyone a bit involved in the anime community knows about vtuber by this point. Getting new viewers is difficult. I think that's pretty much it, it was meant to happen.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:01:47 2022 No.23547713 >>23547197 I hate how vtubers pretend they don't make much money

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:09:44 2022 No.23548108 >>23542437 Pandemic over, that's why Netflix is declining too. Growth will be slow from now on, until the next time where everyone is forced to go inside.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:25:06 2022 No.23548911

>>23547150
Thank God. We're due a spring cleaning. I know we can't get things exactly (or even close to) the way they were but at least I hope we can get out of this hell-world where Vwhorejo has the world's most viewed vtuber, Holo bitches streaming 3 hours a week is normalized, and the Niji take on EN vtubers is OfflineTV with a side of pronoun bullshit.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:26:09 2022 No.23548966

>>23542437
>This is actually very concerning.
It isn't concerning in the slightest. This isn't only expected, but welcomed. Grifters and those just seeking novelties have left and people with an actual interest remain. Vtubing has established itself, it isn't going anywhere, and though future growth might be slow the trickle of new fans will from now on be people who are adjacent to everything weeb and have a relation to the culture. The future is genuinely great.

Netflix? Netflix and streaming services are failing because they have proven themselves to be subjected to two whammies - the first being that effectively all Western media is a vehicle for political propaganda, and the second that shows are scattered across services. The latter defeats the purpose of streaming (availability). Zoomers may even grasp that physical media is the only alternative and not just an alternative but a standard to adhere to. This streaming situation has nothing to do with vtubing however. Vtubing actually does deliver content you want to see and there's no "restrictions" meaning you can watch whichever girl and/or company you want with ease.

Finally, this is the showcase of the American disease where perpetual growth is somehow inexplicably a goal and a measure of worth in and of itself, which baffles me. It literally doesn't matter because as previously mentioned the actual fanbase is here and watching, and whoever comes to join us will do so out of actual interest and not because some anituber grifter or internet e-celeb bullshitted out a video on his channel or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:27:53 2022 No.23549049 >>23543378 Which ironmouse has locked down

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:28:01 2022 No.23549057 >>23548966 >Grifters and those just seeking novelties have left >have left, past-tense Anon I know the outlook is good but don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:30:07 2022 No.23549170

>>23542437
You’ll never see anything like it again, at least not with Hololive or vTubing as we know it. The new car smell is gone and the talents have done little to try and keep viewers interest. Maybe there will be another perfect storm in the future with vTuber 2.0, whatever that looks like.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:30:18 2022 No.23549179 >>23544493 because they're so retarded that the numbers thread just tells them to fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:30:18 2022 No.23549181 >>23549057 True, true. We're just in the initial phases of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:31:11 2022 No.23549234 Livestreaming in general is losing its grip on viewership. Workplaces are adapting to the pandemic and COVID restrictions are easing. Compared to the early 2020s, normies do not have that much free time anymore.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:31:11 2022 No.23549233

When you have people showing passion and love towards the medium like vshojo and NijiEN, it's hard to look at grifters like HoloEN who are only there to receive a paycheck and to get out.

We're just seeing the point where people who are only in this for the fad dropping out and losing interest while the real passionate ones will stay on.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:31:23 2022 No.23549245

The subscriber growth of HoloEN has fucking collapsed. Kiara is getting around 300 subs per day now. That's lower than every single Niji girl.
Gura growing the fastest, and she's only getting around 1k subs per day. Which is insanely low for her, and lower than most of the Niji girls.

The issue is that over time, subs start becoming less active. They start becoming dead subs. If you aren't getting new subs into the front end, you're slowly draining your viewership. Predicting a marked decline in Hololive viewership in the coming months is very easy to do. They're going to start drying up.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:31:48 2022 No.23549264

>>23548966
As always anti always ignoring the youtube culling even when the girls talked about this. All of you in this thread are pathetic. But of course you can't comment on number s thread because they always bring facts to the table meanwhile all of you is bring shtippost as always.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:32:00 2022 No.23549279

>>23548966
To be fair all capitalism hyperfocuses on perpetual growth.

I agree with your commentate on netflix and at the same time the pandemic did influence their numbers, you can't say it didn't literally shook many industries.

The moment vtubing goes mainstream is the moment it dies. It will go on as another gimmik of entertainment while losing what made it special.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 17:35:00 2022 No.23549473 >>23542437 there aren't infinite people in the world.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:38:20 2022 No.23549679

>>23549279
I know the pandemic had an effect - but on normalfaggots, not weebs. The whole pandemic bullshit literally changed nothing for me. Absolutely nothing in my lifestyle changed or was affected. Never got tested or vaxxed either. Yes, I do have a job and I'm not a NEET. This just brings me back to the point that normalfaggots may and will fuck off but that the niche has been established and it isn't going anywhere. The audience exists and is watching.

>The moment vtubing goes mainstream is the moment it dies.
True, but at this point I doubt we have to worry about that. The only thing that happened was the diversifying of content and company culture.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:42:04 2022 No.23549933

>>23543570
>lyger introducing Holos to ironic weebs
That's Coco, you retard. VShoujo, Trash Taste and HoloEN popped out after Coco's EOP pandering. Lyger's an obssesive chubby chaser but he didn't introduce ironic weebs into the fandom.
>not being able to say nigga on stream
You can blame HoloEN for that. I'm sure the SJWs like Kiara and Mori told them not to say it during the GTA V playthroughs.

Anonymous Mon May 2 17:57:10 2022 No.23550921

>>23549933
>You can blame HoloEN for that. I'm sure the SJWs like Kiara and Mori told them not to say it during the GTA V playthroughs.
isn't there a clip of Kiara saying it in some random stream?
and Mori did have her wanabe gangers nigga posting so i doubt she cares all that much either.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:04:45 2022 No.23551369 >>23546451 Your right. It is still going in China, which is why NijiEN is still growing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:08:24 2022 No.23551585 >>23551369 China will never end the pandemic. The peons stay locked up and still have to pay their bills and the govt won't allow them to gather and protest. HK protest died as soon as Rona hit the scene and China locked down.

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:11:14 2022 No.23551720

>>23547713
They just take that hit when tax time comes around, not realizing they should've kept 25% aside for the government. I hope the big chuubas know about write offs and loses. Ina has an accountant but I feel like Gura would be bad with this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:12:00 2022 No.23551760 >>23542437 Youtube started to actually ban bots.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:13:44 2022 No.23551849 >>23547713 a former NijiKR has hinted at financials before post reincarnation and said she made the equivalent of 20k usd in a 6 month span which is not bad for someone who was barely a 3view

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:14:37 2022 No.23551899 >>23542492 Tell that to Shanghai lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:15:38 2022 No.23551950 >>23545817 all me btw

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:16:41 2022 No.23552002

>>23544493
>"containment"
Just like /pol/ the raid general is a nest for the rats to breed. There is zero containment. The only actual containment 4chan ever got was /mlp/ because le big bad anonymous got scared of how sexy the coloured horses were to him.

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:18:55 2022 No.23552128
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>>23542437
I've said it before and I'll say it again: people are going to look back on 2021 as the year that Hololive reached its absolute peak in popularity. From here on out, it's only going to be a gradual decline. Hololive is currently top-heavy with only big-hitters like Pekora and Aqua still looking good while the the others are performing worse and worse. Soon enough, they'll feel the effects too.

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:18:55 2022 No.23552126

>>23551585
I'm no expert at CN politics, but from my understanding, the current wave of lockdowns in China are aimed at Shanghai cause the political factions rival the CCP proper in Beijing. Gives the CCP every reason to send in the armed police to do whatever they want for "reasons".

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:21:13 2022 No.23552288 >>23552126 >>23551585 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:22:33 2022 No.23552367 Oh nyo guys, i just graduated from kindergarten. They tought me that the subs must GRRROOOUUUU GROUU MORE GROUUUU it not GROUUU it bad grouu grouuu GRRROUUU

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:25:01 2022 No.23552503 >>23547197 >Millie's YT leak what

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:30:15 2022 No.23552762

>>23542492
Stop talking about 'journalists' as if they were 'people' therefore there is no room for 'forget or remember'.
The money was getting pumped for the plandemic, they were all getting paid to do their propagandistic brainwashing human rights and health destroying work. Now the monet was REDIRECTED to be pumped in the the conflict matter so now they propagandize the conflict.
Notice that it's only where the money get's pumped in the comporations propagandize about? Yes? Good, have a nice day.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:32:08 2022 No.23552861 >>23552503 she showed her YT studio page which includes a revenue estimate. course that doesn't include merch, VPs, etc in its tot

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:37:32 2022 No.23553124

>>23542437
Only way you'll see another spike is if Trump steals the 2024 election and then diverts federal dollars to fund more bioweapons like he did with Covid-19 since the Trump Virus and the lockdowns that followed were the big reason why Holo myth exploded in popularity.

The current variants of the Trump Virus are not enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:41:22 2022 No.23553285 >>23553124 Where the fuck do you people come from

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:42:23 2022 No.23553331 File: 10 KB, 674x251, pomu sub growth.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gura hasn't gotten an increment in over 10 days. Meaning her sub growth must be less than 1k per day. Meanwhile, Pomu Rainpuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 18:46:01 2022 No.23553509 >>23553285 This is why streamers should talk about politics or current world events. There are people with all kind of different opinions in their viewer crowd and it will just start a war.

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:46:19 2022 No.23553526

>>23542437
It's most likely just a result of the pandemic ending people going backto work in person and overall the people who are interested in their content reaching a cap, for example, there's only so many people interested in a subject and as you run out of new fans the rate of viewership decreases.

Anonymous Mon May 2 18:47:29 2022 No.23553591

>>23552861
>she showed her YT studio page which includes a revenue estimate
To expand on this, her channel activity alone is generating $10,000 a month. That's with her relatively small subscriber and CCV pull. With cuts and taxes considered it's still a tidy sum, and like you said, doesn't include external stuff like merch, from which she also gets a slice. Holos are guaranteed to do be doing much better ("drop money on a house in this economy" levels of better), even if many of them stream nowhere near as much as the nijis.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 19:02:01 2022 No.23554309 >>23552126 Correct. Shaghai is the most 'westernized' and wealthy part of the mainland. >>23552288 roru

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 19:25:03 2022 No.23555399 Nobody wants a Hololive without Coco Cover keeps on making mistakes and alienating their foreign audience

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 19:38:26 2022 No.23555980 >>23549933 You picked the two holoEN girls who famously said the N word subthreadreader chama.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 19:39:46 2022 No.23556032 File: 480 KB, 2100x2468, 20220425_123848.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck did this already terrible thread manage to turn into a /pol/ thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 19:51:35 2022 No.23556589 >>23556032 jews and jew golems trying to say the pandemic isn't over

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 20:22:17 2022 No.23557998 >>23555980 HAHHA which ones said it, you're lying

Anonymous Mon May 2 20:27:20 2022 No.23558208

>>23547273
Because companies don't expand outside the anime community. No I don't mean the ironic weebs because they're already all here, but the niche hobbiests like ttrpgs, fighting games and other communities still untouched by vtubers. But that actually takes creativity and risk and companies HATE risks.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 21:05:31 2022 No.23560004 >>23558208 Non corpo vtubers are already making headways into those communities

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 21:09:01 2022 No.23560174 >>23542437 Maybe if Cover let EN outside of their walled garden and constant micro-management, they would be doing better. I can actually see Cover axing the EN branch if EN3 and ENStars flopping.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 21:14:02 2022 No.23560419 >>23558208 >like ttrpgs watch streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 21:28:54 2022 No.23561003 >>23556032 Pol torist are shitposters More news at eleven

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 21:44:11 2022 No.23561799 >>23542437 Obviously a result of people pretending covid isn't a thing anymore and countries opening back up.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:07:41 2022 No.23565220 Oof

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:29:46 2022 No.23566080 >>23557998 Cali but thats back in the day and like most people have been reformed into an SJW

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:36:30 2022 No.23566398 >>23547713 Thats pretty much all streamers/content creators who don't flaunt their wealth in their content, not just vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:38:35 2022 No.23566492 >>23542437 The Hololive of today is not the same as the one in 2020 that pulled in so many people initially and its not even completely the newbies' fault. Just some "oldies" changing for the worse.

Anonymous Mon May 2 23:40:35 2022 No.23566571
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>>23566492
>The Hololive of today is not the same as the one in 2020 that pulled in so many people initially and its not even completely the newbies' fault. Just some "oldies" changing for the worse.
Oh yeah. Well said. Don’t think we haven’t noticed Miko cutting back hard on the swearing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:43:17 2022 No.23566675 >>23560419 Anon, Mythbreakers has been dead for half a year now and honestly wasn't that good besides Gura and Ina's introductory sessions. Let it go.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:44:00 2022 No.23566708 >>23542437 believe it or not, vtubers are genuinely a niche product

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:44:21 2022 No.23566728 >>23560419 So Mori's eternal hiatus and... NijiID playing >DnD? There's only a select few respectable TTRPG vtubers, and they're indies.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 2 23:45:32 2022 No.23566779 >>23547150 >and chuubas will go back to their state back in 2018-2019 only slightly better Newfag

Anonymous Tue May 3 00:02:35 2022 No.23567555

I hope that holo EN chooses better their cards with the next generations, after all they are the ones with more audience, what was the use of putting sana... the others are still trying hard but it would be better to put people who have creativity and who can sing is the important thing, so the holofest will not look so bad.

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