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It was peak unity during picrel it felt like they have infinite possibility as a team.
But now everyone is distancing from each other.
WTF happened?

>> No.23222217

Mori became a yab machine and Gura figured out she got along better with Council

>> No.23222589

Real 3D comes out, Ame can't abuse the first impression for delivering low-effort content anymore

>> No.23222622

>>23222158
mori is the definition of a walking yab

>> No.23222715

>>23222158
Kiara : time zone
Ina : depression health and tech issues
Gura : wider friendgroup
Ame : always a lone wolf
Mori : how many yabs are we at now? She also pushed kiara away as hard as she could

>> No.23222800

They were more interesting doing stuffs together even before the VR chat thing
Why would people watch Hololive if they doing things on their own? There are lots of indie streamers

>> No.23222803

>>23222715
Anon: replying to this kind of thread

>> No.23222999

>>23222158
Mori happened.

>> No.23223039

>>23222715
Makes sense.

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>> No.23223343

>>23222158
>EN speakers
>unity
One's Austrian and the others are hyper individualistic, unity was never an option.

>> No.23225615

>>23222158
it still exists

>> No.23225787

>>23222715
>Ina
>depression
huh? wut? that happy looking girl?

>> No.23225829

All me baby

>> No.23226284

>>23222158
Touch grass

>> No.23226329

>>23222158
Anon, their last collab together was barely over 2 weeks ago...

>> No.23227264

Gura fucked off to make her illuminati Council clique

That's really the only thing that happened
The rest already barely ever did collabs let alone multi-collabs.

>> No.23227355

do they need to constantly be together? they spent almost a year on their own without council/irys, they have more full gen collabs than older JP generations.
let them have a break from each other, jesus. It's obvious they love each other but their chemistry is not as natural as some of the MythXCouncil ones so they are doing it right in pacing themselves.

>> No.23227385

Someone post the Kiara soundpost

>> No.23227393
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Mori happened.

>> No.23227540

They're all busy

>> No.23228552

They're just very different people to start. It's their appeal, Myth is entertaining because the girls bring so much different shit to the table, but it's natural that they don't hang out much. Their occasional collabs are great and I doubt they're actually on bad terms but I wouldn't expect them to have much to do with each other regularly.

>> No.23229656

>>23225787
Anon, I...

>> No.23229682

>>23229656
Inner...

>> No.23229703

The new groups are : Snots, Chads, Independents/loners.

>> No.23229736

>>23222158
They live in different time zones.

>> No.23229737

>>23222158
It's better this way. I don't want to see my oshi hanging out with retarded people

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>> No.23229800

Objectively speaking unity has historically rarely been there in single gen - as many intra-generational pairings that exist, there are more inter-generational ones.

>> No.23229813

>>23222158
I wouldn't want to associate with mori either

>> No.23234539

Mori’s bringing in the vshojo girls into holo now, so the rest of myth left her

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>>23222158
What shit am I reading in this thread? They literally have a full gen collab less then a month ago, that's more then you can say about many gens in Hololive. When was the last time Council had a full collab, or gen 6?

>> No.23235000

>>23234923
just because SEA shits in their living rooms doesn't make it ok for indians to shit on the street

>> No.23235268

>>23235000
The fact is it's misleading pointing at how bad Myth chemistry is when literally every other gen is worse off. Remind me that everyone here thought gen 3 was the strongest unity only for Flare to mention one stream that they all rarely talk together and then Rushia got fired a week later for leaking her co-workers personal info.

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Don't forget that Mori and Gura watched everyone's LYS performances. Don't forget the NA offcollabs. Look at the amount of collabs they are doing each other, and the group zatsudans and open mic streams. As much as this board may hate it, Mori is responsible for 2 zatsadan formats involving all of EN. The interactions among each other are very extensive compared to other gens.

>> No.23235755

>>23222158
American women are incapable of forming a group that doesnt tear itself apart in 3 weeks

>> No.23235763

>>23235617
the NA offcollab*
And then there are the upcoming visits and vacations involving Kiara...
You could argue that they don't offcollab as much as the JPs do, for obvious reasons, but the fact that they have them at all outside of 3D streams in Nihon is pretty impressive imasho.

>> No.23237472

>>23222158
Mori made everyone split up into cliques so every fault with Myth, you can easily just blame that fat whore.

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>>23222222

>> No.23238362

>>23222158
Mori never liked anyone but puts up with Gura because she can leech off of her popularity.
Gura stopped talking to Ame when she realized that Ame isn't particularly interested in her.
Ina never talked to anyone because she's a social outcast.
Kiara stopped talking to Mori when she realized that Mori isn't particularly interested in her.
Kiara will stop talking to Ame when she realizes that Ame isn't particularly interested in her either.

>> No.23238479

>>23222158
I don't know but I'm glad for it. I've been loving these GuraxCouncil collabs.

>> No.23239839

>>23235268
I think /vt/ may have a double standar when it comes to JP and EN

>> No.23240139

You do realize that gen unity didn't even exist until gen 3 and look where they are now. Gen 5 probably has the most unity in Hololive and that's because the Aloe yab brought them all together.

>> No.23240227

their situation is like freshman college roommates/suitemates that met at orientation until sorta branching off separate over time, nothing mean spirited or drama bullshit

>> No.23240269

>>23239839
Yeah, no shit, they are EOPs larping as Japanese.

>> No.23240318

>>23240139
How does Gamers not have unity?

>> No.23240354

>>23238362
Kiara stopped talking to Mori after Mori ghosted her after she moved out of Japan (it was a month after moving to Austria that Mori contacted her).

>> No.23240381

They had a full gen collab 3 weeks ago. A few weeks before that they had another full gen collab and talked about how much closer they feel in VR and how they can't wait to see each other for real.

>> No.23240793

>>23222999
This. Double trips of absolute truth.

>> No.23240883

>>23240381
Full gen is their job.
They choose to collab with others now instead of their gen.

>> No.23241127

>>23240354
Still wish Kiara had ghosted her back when Mori tried to fix it last month

>> No.23241265

>>23240354
> (it was a month after moving to Austria that Mori contacted her).
Something else was going on in that month, apparently. Really makes you think.

>> No.23241836

>>23240318
>Korone and Fubuki still haven't had a one-on-one collab, ever
Fubuki is friends with Mio
Who is friends with Okayu
Who is friends with Korone
They don't exactly have an inherent connection

>> No.23242163

Reminder that Calli wrote a song about how her genmates helped her through hard times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq0xVtTr5a0&ab_channel=MoriCalliope-Topic

>> No.23243839

>>23227264
Gura did organize the April fool collab for the Myth girls though...

>> No.23243958

>>23229800
I would say after JP Gen 5,all gens have been Unity for the most part.

>> No.23244103

>>23241265
?

>> No.23244195

>>23243839
she still has more fun with SNOT

>> No.23244223

>>23222999
/thread

>> No.23244262

You became a schizo.

>> No.23244281

>>23242163
A lot more happens behind the scenes than they show. Several times they mentioned how they talk on discord offstream.
But they are still people with a lot of stuff to do in their lives.
I know most anons here are probably friendless tards, but just so you know, friends in adulthood aren't holding hands 24/7.

>> No.23244446

>>23244281
I wouldn't bother, /vt/ is their oshi and as far as they are concerned Mori is ruining Hololive and needs to graduate.

>> No.23244464

>>23222217
this

>> No.23244642

>>23244195
Kronii, mumei and her really mesh well. They can have their weird conversations and it flows well.
The Myth dynamic is different.
>Ina is more of the silent type, will speak only to make the occasional pun.
>Kiara tries very hard to make conversation and keep conversation going, but it's very hard for her since she has a hard time relating to burgers.
>Ame is always more focused on the task than the interaction, always focusing on the game or making the collab move forward.
>Mori... She is probably too drunk to socialize normally most of the time.

None of it is necessarily bad, but a myth collab will never have the casual flow of something like Snot.
My opinion: Snot is funnier but Myth is cuter. I like both. I am an Universal Unity Fag

>> No.23245240

>>23242163
No one listens to her songs. Her songs are only played in Asylums and maximum security prisons

>> No.23245263

>>23238362
Ame is actually a decent person. Gura and her are probably still close considering they've considered moving in with each other. Ame and Kiara still support each other especially since Ame is going to Europe soon. Mori doesn't really care about streaming so she won't go out of her way to schedule a stream that's in a bad time for her. Ina is Ina.

>> No.23245496

>>23245263
why is Ina like that despite crying in the one year anniversary?

>> No.23245764

Why Gura no stream with my korean chink self insert and euro shit chuuba?! She needs guras bigger online presence to help. They have to be "friends" and work out with each other and be happy because thats whats generally good. It overlooks grounded complexity.

>> No.23245775

>>23245496
Never said anything bad about Ina. Ina is just herself (kinda introverted and awkward). She definitely cares about everyone in EN.

>> No.23247405

>>23222158
actually killed by ttrpg

>> No.23250391

>>23222217
fpbp

>> No.23251070

>>23245496
Ina participated on the offcollab, but hated going outside to buy pc parts. Stop overthinking.

>> No.23251204

>>23247405
It's a shame because the idea of holomems doing a tt campaign was a great one.

>> No.23251706

>>23222158
Calli being Calli and not caring about hololive
Kiara being a Numbers whore and whore in general trying to further herself above all
Ame going off doing her own things
leaving Gura and Ina that don't go together too well.

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Why are people so fixated on the relationships of virtual entertainers that just happened to be hired at the same time? Is this grounds enough to be this demanding about "muh unity"?
I find it inherently more kino when people from vastly different backgrounds and completely different personalities form a genuine friend group.

>> No.23252439

Nature of getting more famous, happens with pretty much anyone. It is what it is, not much anyone can do.

>> No.23252613

>>23251706
>Kiara furthering herself above all
>organizes the most collabs
Interesting take anon but not quite there!

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>>23222217
>>23222622
>>23222715
>>23222999
>>23227393
>>23229813
>>23234539
>>23237472
>>23238362
>>23240354
>>23241127
>>23241265
>>23251706
Hey, remember in the first few months after HoloMyth debuted everyone kept saying that Kiara is a walking yab machine? And she'll be the first one to commit a yab so big that'd hurt the company's reputation?
Good times.
How the tables have turned.

>> No.23252909

>>23252613
>Kiara organizes collabs for the sake of number whoring/growing her own fanbase
there's a better one for you

>> No.23252922

>>23252613
What does that have to do with it? If anything that alone makes it even more apparent.
Casting a wide net, collabing with as many people as possible to get yourself into as many things as possible and desperately trying to get as many people to view her as possible.
She knows to market herself.

>> No.23253032

I don't think I've EVER seen actual unity from Myth , they've never felt like a coherent team even when they were all together

>> No.23253073

>>23252832
We were so wrong about the orange woman... I'm sorry... I kneel...

>> No.23253146

>open any thread
>mori mori mori mori
>lowercase ESL typestyle every time
What is the objective of these spamming discordfags? Just to make the board worse? They're posting about pink woman in every thread.

>> No.23253189

The only genuinely weird one is how Gura and Ame suddenly stopped collabing

>> No.23253221

>>23222158
Why are anons here so insecure about Kiara? She isn't talented enough to ever be more popular than Gura or Ina, you don't need to worry about her "furthering herself" lmao

>> No.23253293

>>23222715
>She also pushed kiara away as hard as she could
And she was right to do so

>> No.23253629

>>23253146
complainig about pink women is board culture

>> No.23253709

>>23252909
> organizing collabs with people she likes and that choose to interact with her.
> could go after gura, pekora, miko or calli, yet chooses not to.
Keep on hating. It keeps the thread alive.

>> No.23253814

>>23253629
>>23253293
>>23253146
Deadbeats waking up. Go back into the hole your oshii been digging herself into

>> No.23253849

>>23252922
Yeah it's smart to expand yourself to a wider audience but this is purely a selfish move because???

>> No.23255012

>>23253849
How is it not?

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>>23253814
Been wondering for a while, are deadbeats the ones really posting the hateful stuff about Kiara or is it just shitposters trying to stir up tribalism between fanbases? I've been trying to figure this out for a while now.

>> No.23255220

>>23222158
anon, the last Myth collab wasn't even that long ago. Take your fucking meds.

>> No.23256184

>>23244642
I think the best myth collabs were any of the ones that involved drawing. They mesh pretty well when they're doodling together.

>> No.23257175

They've reached the point in their careers where they have been established as their own channels with their own niche content to offer, much like many of their senpais. It happens to everyone. Hololive has a set pattern of letting the talents do group collabs and grow their gens while also showcasing their dynamics with each other and solo. Now that they're set and don't need to have the "crutch" (used very loosely) of gen collab content, they can work more on marketing gigs, advertisement, and merch. Just like how the JP girls go on talkshows, radio shows, market campaigns, etc, the myth girls have grown big enough and influential enough to do this. It wasn't just about numbers and big fanbases, it's about learning to go from streamer to member of a large organization that accesses multiple streams of revenue that then allows them to offer larger projects such as concerts, anime, games, merch, etc, which is the end goal for the company. The company knows how important the international market is now and is utilizing the myth girls to push more international fanbase growth across all branches. We're seeing collabs between ID and JP branches, with EN. We're even seeing more collabs with the council girls who need a boost to grow as big as the myth girls. This is also helpful for the myth girls as well, because they now get to spend less time streaming, take some much needed breaks and focus on irl issues like housing, taxes, and family obligations; while also allowing the council girls to fill in the lack of EN content and grow their fanbases by utilizing the existing myth one.

Short bus: The girls are focusing on their solo content now that they're big and share lots of the same subs, they're taking breaks more often since there's more EN people to fill in the lack of content for the fans, and they're going to be working on bigger stuff for the company now that they have 3d models and are for sure marketable.

>> No.23257824

>>23255183
Look what site you're on, and then look what board you're on. I'm not saying deadbeats (that is, the people who like Mori) are innocent angels or some shit, but almost all of the hate thrown around on here is shitposters who don't even like vtubers, and are literally just here to stir shit and start drama "for teh lulz". Also, no offense meant, but the fact you believe it's deadbeats is part of the problem, because it gives them a scapegoat. A group they can pin all the blame on while they're shitting the place up.

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