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22600659 No.22600659 [Reply] [Original]

They were leagues more entertaining than HoloEN before the males got introduced. Discuss.

>> No.22600772

>>22600659
No, they weren’t. The males being added has rapidly diminished their value in my eyes, sure, but at most, only a few handful of their streams were ever really impactful.

>> No.22600775
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>>22600659
No

>> No.22600828

>>22600659
Yes they were better before males. Now though, they're just vshojo 2.0. Peepeepoopoo and sex jokes nonstop. Drama constantly. HoloEN is better. Women streamers are unironically better when they're managed and without male collabs and mentioning. This is a fact that many don't want to accept.

>> No.22600890

They unironically were. Those streams are so fucking kino. I still go back and watch them sometimes.

>> No.22600924

It's honestly true but I also hate men and don't want to see them at all. They're all disgusting. The world will be better when women can reproduce without males.

These scrotes already had a monopoly on YouTube and face streaming yet they also take over vtubing? I hate these ugly faggots for ruining everything

>> No.22600964

>>22600659
not even close

>> No.22601018

>>22600659
I like Selen and Elira, and Pomu... And sometimes Rosemi.

>> No.22601033

>>22600924
A man typed this

>> No.22601063

>>22600659
>>22600828
>>22600890
>>22600924
Shut the fuck up Holobronies. No one believes you.

>> No.22601155

>>22600924
I like male chuubas now

>> No.22601193

>>22600659
yes. it's not really even the males that are the problem though. it just feels like they've stopped trying.

>> No.22601221

>>22600659
stop falseflagging

>> No.22601331

>>22600659
Reminder
>holobrony! not an argument
>incel/unicorn! not an argument
>nipplesanji! not an argument

>> No.22601405

>>22600828
We need to segregate male and female vtubers. Tranny vtubers just shouldn't be allowed.

>> No.22601422

>>22600659
True.

>> No.22601560

>>22601193
Can you blame them though?
>tried hard for months with a steady, but slow growth
>some faggot britbong groomer pops up and blows past all their hard work with literally no effort
That would make anyone give up trying

>> No.22601592

>>22600659
Yes but now when the males show up the atmosphere of the stream totally changes, it becomes a battle of horny chat and baiting cute male moments

>> No.22601677

>>22600775
haha look at him go

>> No.22601790

>>22600659
>They were leagues more entertaining before the males got introduced.
ftfy

>> No.22601809

Yes they were (except Petra). It sucks that males' introduction turned NijiEN into reality tv.

>> No.22601861

>>22601560
i'd be dejected too but it fucking frustrates me. even if it's humiliating and disheartening, they could still sail a lot further off luxiem's wind if they'd just put any fucking energy in.

>> No.22601862

>>22601809
It's sad that NijiEN literally turned into offlineTV but with live2Ds

>> No.22601951

yes they where better, i was subscribed even to pomu, elira, petra, etc. It was fun. Males comes, all girls start flying around them, copying memes, private anecdotes of them, i dont care really the collabs, but if their personality now is how cool are their male coworkers, im out.

>> No.22602026

I bet Pomu is the most upset over this.

>> No.22602093

if this thread wasnt full of holobrony falseflag retards they would know that nijigirls have been collabing with dudes, doing sex jokes and turning every random stream into a random collab even before luxiem existed.

>> No.22602169

>>22600659
They peaked at Lazulight and have been downhill since. The boys are a symptom, not the cause.

>> No.22602217

>>22601405
Trannies can be vtubers on twitch if they want

>> No.22602377

Cope. They were vshojo lite even back before the males invaded.

>> No.22602391

>>22602093
bs

>> No.22602413
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22602413

Fucking take me back to the comfy LazuSydia days. Ethyria is why people label NijiEN "Vshojo lite" and don't get me started with subsequent waves.

>> No.22602539

>>22602377
>>22602413
The only way to prevent becoming Vshojo-esque in even ideal conditions would be for Finana to have been culled. Thus, it was doomed from the get-go.

>> No.22602554

>>22601063
You don't have to believe them the facts speak for the situation, like Vox being infinitely more popular than Elira and Selen, of Nina's boost because she revels in collabs with Luxiem.

>> No.22602568

>>22602217
>they can if they want
and that’s a problem

>> No.22602595

It's basically turned half the streams into the girls hanging out with or talking about something they did with their gay best friend.

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if every single one of the dudes wasn't so aggressively unfunny and uncharismatic.

>> No.22602656

Millie brought the Phillipine fanbase.
Never bring pinoys as they ruin every clique they can get in.

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>>22600659

>> No.22602918

>>22602539
HololiveEN gets away with a whore in their group; NjiEN would've been fine with Finana. Ethyria, on the other hand...

>> No.22603050

>>22602217

Like that Microsoft Sam bitch. Zen something. The dragon chick that does shit with ironmouse and nyanners.

>> No.22603176

>>22600659
Lazulight and Obsydia are the "Myth" of NijiEN, they truly cared about proper content creation overall.
Ethyria and the males are the "Council", riding the wave of the previous Gen(s) with except with GFE/BFE bullshit.

>> No.22603402

>>22603176
Council may be disappointing by comparison to Myth, but I wouldn't insult them like that, Anon. They still have members who give a shit.

>> No.22603445

>males join
>forced to interact and collab with them by management
>your culture of keeping things open for anyone to join means males are constantly jumping into your streams
>even if you aren't interested in interacting you have to put on a happy face and pretend because "we're all a big family lol!!"
>scare away gachi
>drama is slowly leaking out more and more
>fanbase is flooded with asian ESLs that either want you to die for talking to the guys or ship you with them
>your numbers inflate when one joins but they don't even care what you're doing and are only there for the guy in question, basically taking over your chat and making even more people not want to stick around

>> No.22603483

>>22602093
It's a lot easier to ignore when it's just 1 or 2 streams a month, nowadays it's basically half their content.

>> No.22603490

>>22603402
Fair enough. Council was a disappointment, but admittedly they aren't Ethyria levels.

>> No.22603507

They weren't spectacular to begin with and the chemistry feels lacking between them and the guys.

The guys aren't really that entertaining either.

The JP males are more interesting and have better designs.

>> No.22603675

>>22600659
I like Enna's Chinese feet

>> No.22603682

>>22603483

you dont watch nijiEN

>> No.22603700

>>22603682
Not anymore, yeah.

>> No.22603707

>>22602554
Nina's boost is in subs only. No one watches her, no one supas her, its just the fujos who have her in their feed in case she tries leeching from the boys again, since that's basically all of her content now

>> No.22604293

>>22603445
>>scare away gachi
Awesome, fuck gachikois

>> No.22604523

>>22604293
>lose gachikoi
>gain fujoshi

>> No.22604766

>>22604293
If I were vtuber, male or female I would be okay with gachikois.
Basically as long as they're not obnoxious and overly needy/pushy, a fan genuinely liking you can be pretty comforting. Not to mention they tend to be the most active community members, SCers and content creators.

>> No.22604863

>>22600659
I will agree that they were leagues more entertaining before the males got introduced, but not more entertaining than holoEN

>> No.22604877

>>22600772
Hololive fans are something else.
>The males being added has rapidly diminished their value in my eyes
Why? At least explain if you're going to make such a wild statement. Do you ship yourself with streamers?

>> No.22604941

>>22604766
That is until you find a psycho.
Ask Mel and Pekora, they know it's not pretty.
>>22603707
Please somebody post the DYING DEAD CHANNEL pic

>> No.22605295

Enjoy your idols while it lasts, because it's going to happen to you too.
>b-b-but Ame would never!
See you in December.

>> No.22605384

>>22600659
>before males
true unity, people having fun with everyone and no collab spam that allowed them to have good solo streams in between kino collabs
>after males
cracks start to show, cliques form, it's evidently clear that not everyone gets along with each other, every stream is a collab and dedicated collab streams are just 20 people screeching over each other

>> No.22605462

>>22605295
Proof?

>> No.22605621

>>22604766
>obnoxious and overly needy/pushy,
Thats the issue, they always are this

>> No.22605794

>>22600924
ywnbaw
>>22602217
yep twitch is a lost cause, literally unbanned a tranny that threatened to shoot up their hq, what a bunch of retards lmao. let them have their horde of vroid model 2view trannies.
>>22602413
agreed that those were the best days of nijiEN.
>>22602539
i think having just finana would be fine if she were contrasted by other members.

>> No.22605929

>>22603050
>Like that Microsoft Sam bitch. Zen something. The dragon chick that does shit with ironmouse and nyanners.
Zendaya

>> No.22606050

>>22605621
>>22604941
I think that's why you set boundaries early on. Especially if you're going in hard with the G/BFE. Indulging people with cute fantasies isn't a big deal and the .1% who take it too far would latch on anyone who did simple things like thank them for their support, read a non-supa message in chat, like a tweet/reply, etc. etc.

>> No.22606104

What are those Kino streams?

>> No.22606219

>>22600659
Only Pomu, Selen, Elira and Rosemi probably. Stop watching entirely because of the sausage fest tho.

>> No.22606291

>>22606050
>I think that's why you set boundaries early on.
You cant set boundaries with a person who doesnt understand what those are

>> No.22606487

>>22604877
noone likes being the third-wheel

>> No.22606572

>>22600659
Males showed thier true fake whore nature. I'm glad they debuted so I don't waste money on them.
Except Selen she's still pretty cool

>> No.22606602

>>22600659
Before Ethyria too.

>> No.22606640

>>22606050
>set boundaries
Yeah. That's why crimes don't exist since those are illegal.

>> No.22606836

>>22600659
Why vt likes to tribalfag and compared chuubas?
Why not horny post instead

>> No.22606861

>>22606291
>>22606640
>people will be crazy so you shouldn't do anything that could make you enticing to some viewers

Might as well not have an appealing looking avatar, put in effort to stream, make entertaining content or be a likable person either

>> No.22607826

>>22600772
>impactful.
This one checks the Life changing box on youtube surveys

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>>22602413
We'll never get those days back brother. cherish the memories.

>> No.22608193

>>22606861
Thats not it, its just gachikois are insane. Regular people still exist and are fine for you to do that.

>> No.22608235

>>22606861
Too add on to this, its important to make sure to disillusion the gachikois sometimes before they to get be to much

>> No.22608278

>>22606836
its because these fags don't watch streams and probably watched a clip and called themselves a fan.

>> No.22608464

>muh gachikoi bad
People really like to say this shit but fucking fujos are proving to be even worse, one look at the chat and you can see that they have no boundaries, you can say the most slutty and depraved shit to the streamer and it's okay because "girl", already having power hungry mods and male members defending themselves against people complaining that certain girls get special treatment in collabs

>> No.22608481

>>22600775
What is this sorcery

>> No.22608485

>>22600659
They were rightfully two views back then and they aren't even good now. Any other response about muh good old days was pure delusion. From the very beginning the only reason people latched on to them was so that they could feel special. Dozens of boring streams labeled as "kino". Oh, and the peepee and dick jokes were there from the start too.

>> No.22608595

>>22600659
>leagues
eh, i won't go that far. That said yes, the males ruined what they had going for them. I don't even bother tuning in anymore

>> No.22609268

>>22601861
>sail a lot further off luxiem's wind
Nina is doing that and she's now the top nijien female in subs, at the price of getting hateposts on /vt/. So I'd say a fair tradeoff. Shouldn't have trash talked and numberfagged her own senior tho, lost all my respect when she went there.

>> No.22609330

>>22600659
Its not hard to be more entertaining than people who dont stream

>> No.22609498

I like Millie though.

>> No.22609503

>>22608485
>They were rightfully two views back then
I don't understand you numberfags. Was 4 digit ccv considered 2 view? Or is it a just label you retards give to everyone who's not in Hololive?

>> No.22609563

>>22609268
Nina's level of leeching is insane though. It's not like everyone should be flying to another continent to have sex with men young enough to be their sons. If they just fucking streamed well and put effort in they could scoop up a lot of Luxiem runoff.

>> No.22609850

>>22601861
But then you just become some guys shitty prop and no one watches you when you aren't collabing with them. Poor way to grow.

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>>22600659
Idk man they're still pretty fun and even if you watch solo only Pomu still streams 10 hours of solo stream today. What about your oshi?

>> No.22610115

>>22608193
Regular people aren't retarded enough to donate their life savings to some egirl who won't even show her face, let alone tits

>> No.22610154

>>22609972
Based. I don't get how people expect vtubers to 'put in extra effort and up their game'. They're mainly streamers that play video games and do creative streams once in a while. Pomu does creatividad streams a lot but these don't watch her so they shit out stupid takes.

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