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22536447 No.22536447 [Reply] [Original]

KFP I don't feel so good...

>> No.22536649

Even IRyS does better than this damn

>> No.22536706

Has she reclined or is something else going on?

>> No.22536825 [DELETED] 

>>22536447
Neck yourself niggerfaggot holotrannie holobronie cuck trannie.

>> No.22536856

>>22536706
1.keeps forcing the annoying voice
2.not a good singer

>> No.22536935

>everything must be viewed through the lens that is Gura’s numbers
2view armageddon, when?

>> No.22537015

>>22536856
I can't believe she hasn't dropped or at least gone less hard on her annoying voice, I would watch her if she didn't try to sound like eng pekora.

>> No.22537024

https://youtu.be/NOrfhrL0D9k
>13 days 200K views
this one is far worse

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>>22536447
Your mom was the worst-performing stripper at the club last night

>> No.22537122

>>22536447
i love her but just like kone she is not a singer and when she sings she transmits just how much she is punishing her throat and it makes me sad

kiwawa i love you please stop destroying your throat, you have me for that babe

shes gonna run out of voice sooner rather than later
>>22537015
pekora isn't forcing her voice tho
she sounds quite comfortable actually

>> No.22537191

>>22536706

Two main things. Cinderella isn’t a popular song in general and there were issues with getting it uploaded and out originally which fucked the algorithm.

There’s two other things debuffing it sorta too. It’s a Japanese song, normally that’s not a problem for kiara since her draw/talent is being trilingual and she is impressively fluent in Japanese and has the Austrian accent so most people know not to expect English songs every time. Normally if it’s not a popular song that got translated multiple times it’s a debuff to do Japanese covers of songs, unless you are Gura. 4th it’s a cover and covers don’t do as well as orginal songs if they aren’t super popular.

>> No.22537241

I'm pretty sure the Huke cover song for his birthday did pretty bad at the start. 451k after over 11 months right now. It's at least doing better than the Hinotori [Lone Alpha Remix] which is at 138k after over 4 months.

>>22536935
No. We are viewing it relative to how most hololive cover and original songs do. Popular songs can get 1 million within the first week. Weeks 2~3 is just about above average in most cases. Last week of the month would be average. Everything above a month is below expectations but if it can reach 1 million eventually, that is still better than most videos do relative to youtube and the many of videos that get uploaded to it daily at least. Even Twelve Days of Christmas cover and the Umisea song hit 1 million in like 3 months time.

>> No.22537284

kys

>> No.22537335

>>22537024
Ame is a bad singer with a terrible voice, despite the improvements she's made. Nobody will listen to it more than once, which will limit its view growth.

>> No.22537342

>>22537191
Harsh reality, which makes me feel bad since I remember Matsuri saying how they gotta pay for all the stuff around the creation of the cover out of their own pocket.

>> No.22537362

>>22536935
Mori's latest song got 1 million in 4 days

>> No.22537380

>>22537024
Stop dragging down her friends
>>22537015
No you wouldn’t. Don’t know why people keep saying this
>>22537122
She actually sounded softer in this cover than other songs. I was surprised

>> No.22537412

who cares, it's SEX
how gay do you have to be to listen to this and focus on numbers

>> No.22537433

can't sing
unlikable personality
fanbase are the second worst doxxing faggots in EN

>> No.22537476

>>22537433
ur mom can't sing LOL

>> No.22537506

>>22537380
>worst-performing cover
no don't hurt my fee fees! :(

>> No.22537546
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The fact that Kiara cares more about how many people saw the video, over feedback of this video

Damnit, i had just barely forgotten her sobbing on stream that she was "last" to hit 1M of the Myth girls. So much progress, so much self improving, so much improving of herself and her content, all shot to shit because NUMBERS

>> No.22537550

>>22537024
>ame not shilling it 24/7
>not an original or a song thats already covered to death

>> No.22537596

>>22537024
Ame's voice is akin to dog being run over by a steamrollers, she's probably just happy she gets any views

>> No.22537695

>>22537024
oh god
>>22537335
i cant finish it even once shes just horrid
>>22537380
its still... she needs to work on her technique a lot
>>22537546
i love kiwawa

>> No.22537712

>>22537546
she can't be happy for other people, she has to just seethes with jealousy

>> No.22537729

>>22536856
she calls herself a voice actress please understand

>> No.22537746

>>22537024
holy shit this is awful

>> No.22537894

>>22537024
>>22537335
>>22537596
>>22537695
>>22537746
retards
least you could do is compare it to the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enAd0wfp_GE

>> No.22538025

>>22537894
thats horrid too
whos the retard tho, i who says "yo its horrid" or you who goes "yo its horrid no matter the version" ignoring that SHE CHOSE AND DID THE FUCKING SONG
THATS RIGHT, YOU ARE THE RETARD
GET REKT RETARD

>> No.22538120

>>22537024
poor Ame...
>>22536447
HAHA STUPID CHICKEN

>> No.22538127

Kiara seems to get IRyS and Sana-tier numbers. With IRyS it's just her stream hours and Sana is just unpopular for many valid reasons. Kiara has fucking 1.4 MILLION subscribers and closely associated with two of the biggest vtubers on the ENTIRE PLANET. How is she struggling?

Her talking voice isn't actually that bad and her accent and ESL stumbling are cute as fuck. Her design is Stacy and sex. She loves her fanbase, works very hard, multi-talented, adores Hololive and supports those around her. Just wtf is the core singularity reason for why she struggles?

>> No.22538144

>>22536447
This is sad.

>> No.22538155

>>22537546
Is Kiara a narcissist?

>> No.22538269

>>22538127
For me, I don't like how tryhard she is in collabs. She needs to turn the energy down a smidge.

>> No.22538270

>>22538127
i love kiwawa
for why she stumbles, look at her time slots, karaoke in 2 hours?

>> No.22538301

>>22538155
She's just self-aware enough to realise that her genmates genuinely don't deserve their success as much as her. If it was Ina moaning about hitting 1M last then I'd agree that would be distasteful, but Kiara honestly deserves a lot more attention and respect.

>> No.22538349

>>22538127
Some numberfag can probably give a better answer but I'd guess it's a combination of streaming hours (her streams tend to land in late morning/early afternoon for NA and late night/early morning for JP) plus her best content is zatsudans that casual viewers and people that get filtered by her voice won't stick around for.

>> No.22538363

>>22538025
>ESL and acting like an underage faggot
well I'm just embarrased for you now, so congrats

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>>22538301
>She's just self-aware enough to realise that her genmates genuinely don't deserve their success as much as her
But anon, those are the traits of a narcissist.

>> No.22538468

>>22538301
Sounds like text-book narcissism

>> No.22538502

>>22538127
I think it's a lot of small things combined, bizzare time slot, JRPG gamer which don't do generally very well as streaming games, was a bit too emotional during her early months which made people babysit her rather than support her, and a few other things.

It's not that she's doing badly, she's got a loyal established fanbase that 100% stays loyal to her by now, she's one of the members who brings in the most SC out of EN and likely puts in more hours than anyone in EN.

Thinking about it, it might be more that it's hard to join in as a new viewer rather than her losing any, since I'd imagine that as a new newer you could feel left out based on how close everyone in the chat and the streamer are.

>> No.22538528

>>22536706
The rral reason is that she killed the algorithm by reuploading it 2 hours before realese. Not that anyone here cares since it is just an anti thread where kiarashizo spergs out because people keep insulting his mother in global

>> No.22538540

>>22538127
She's not actually that appealing outside of KFP fandom. idk why, i'd rather watch other myth members

>> No.22538543

>>22538270
>>22538349
People often say it's her hours, but her VOD views are significantly lower too compared to her genmates. She's autistic with a few awful games but she makes up for it with a lot of varied and creative content. I'm starting to think it's just the typical vtuber fan not being able to pick up on her Euro sarcasm, banter and humor, so people think she's being snappy and taking herself too seriously. Sana is viewed the same way when she too is constantly fucking around and trying to get a reaction out of people, but people mistake it as autism and awkwardness.

>> No.22538621

>>22537191
God you're fucking retarded.
>a popular song that got translated multiple times
Three out of these new DECO*27 songs he published before album release went viral. Vampire, then Cinderella, then Animal. And I mean extremely fucking viral, Kamippoi na level, not King level but maybe Phony level. They fit your description, every EOP watching vtubers and their grandmother know these songs. The fact that it's Giga remix and not original doesn't do shit. It's just that Kiara is a debuff by herself.
Also what fucking English songs did EN even cover officially and in what way are JP songs a debuff? Ina's Tabi no Tochuu (extremely obscure as far as covers go, no one covered it in like years, who even remembers this anime now?) has 2M, Ina & Kiara Iya iya iya (good song but still pretty obscure in terms of popularity) has 3M. AmeTori Dreamin Chuchu has 1.4M which is pretty good considering those two are debuff singers. Council's JP covers underperform because they lack popularity in general compared to Myth. And no one even covered any EN songs. We don't count Country Roads because it can hardly be considered a cover with its abysmal mixing, and there's also Twelve Days Of Christmas which has like 1M which is not impressive at all compared to EN Ochame Kinou which has 6.4M FUCKING VIEWS.
EOPs don't fucking know what they're talking about, more news at 11

>> No.22538656

>>22537546
This is a little different anon. The talents are the ones that pay for everything regarding covers. Less numbers and more that she may have wasted a lot of money for something she was really excited for. And that hurts

>> No.22538698

>>22538468
How is it textbook when I said she's self-aware? On paper at least, she deserves a lot more success than Ina and I think she can see that. That's not being narcissistic, because she's actually right to think that. I like Ina and appreciate her niche but if she suddenly graduated, not a lot would be lost apart from that very specific niche she filled. Kiara graduating would have far more of an impact in the community, let alone Hololive.

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>>22537191
>4th it’s a cover and covers don’t do as well as orginal songs if they aren’t super popular.

>> No.22538791

>>22538698
>she deserves a lot more success than
That is a non-tangible comparison. Ina works hard in different fields, just like Kiara. Her fans reciprocate this as well as her superchats
"deserving" in a field that has no parameters for expectations is exactly what a narcissist would say

>> No.22538871

>>22538656
Thatvdoesn't make sense. She wasn't excited for this cover and said she didn't like her voice in this one. Also covers are always a waste of money

>> No.22538937

>>22538871
FOTM covers like King, Identity or Phony always bring in the big views

>> No.22538949

>>22536447
>it's the stream sparks arc again

>> No.22538984

>>22538791
I get your point, really I do, but literally look at their recent uploads over the last month. It's cherry picking, but if you go even further back you'll see Kiara is constantly pushing and contributing a lot to the medium in comparison:

>Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww/videos

>Ina
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMwGHR0BTZuLsmjY_NT5Pwg/videos

I agree it's hard to compare them both, but just fucking look. It's like saying someone isn't stupid because we can't define what intelligence actually is yet. You can just...tell. Kiara ticks so many boxes for what vtuber fans look for, based entirely on things I've seen others receive criticism for NOT doing.

>> No.22539019

>>22538698

>deserves success because she won't take the hint that she's complete shit

not funny, not entertaining, just complete annoying sounding shit. If she hadn't managed to parasocial a bunch of retards by doing 90% superchatting as her entire view time she'd have been forcibly graduated a year ago. it's pathetic.

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>>22539019

>> No.22539080

>>22538871
She likes making music for her fans to enjoy. Paying out of pocket for covers, especially ones that she can't even monetize like this one, is something she does because she enjoys the process and it's her way to give something back to the fans got their support.
She might not get the biggest numbers of en, but she's still trying to make the most out of this chance to actually be a creative professional instead of phoning in three two hour streams of a FOTM game a week and coasting off holo's popularity.

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>> No.22539088

>>22538127
It is literaly her game choice. She got great numbers with ER but then decided that she isn't gonna play it anymore because reasons. So is she gonna play a buff vampire survivor or that horror game every holo plays? No she would rather play a game from 1998 that wasn't even popular when it came out. Kiara finaly tries an fps? Literaly choses the least popular streaming shooter available. Even her karaoke song choices are bad. Look at her recent karaoke it got great views since it was western songs. In her previous kiaraoke she always insisted ln singing shitty kpop songs or idol garbage

>> No.22539116

>>22538791
NTA but can't agree on the last one. I agree that both Ina and Kiara are hard-working (Ina's amazing progress in singing BTFOs all threadwatchers saying she didn't improve), but there clearly are vtubers who put in less effort than others.
The only hard-working chuubas in EN in my opinion are Kiara, Ina, IRyS and Bae (I like Fauna but don't watch her enough to say if she's improving in any way or if she's just a good but stagnating streamer). Ironically also the ones who know the most Japanese. It's really telling, seeing who is diligent enough to sit down and grind a difficult language and who isn't. For example, I like Ame (sometimes), but I can't fathom how stupidly lazy and/or retarded one can be to still know like 15 words and 5 sentences in JP after fucking YEARS of watching anime, listening to JP songs and watching Holo streams and clips on a regular basis. I swear I knew more than her in like middle school when I first started watching anime with subs and learned my first couple of symbols of kana.

>> No.22539120

>>22536447
Kiara should take a trip down Azki's channel.
She should be glad that this cover isn't blowing up.
It's cute how she always campaigns for views. A true number fag just like her oshi.

>> No.22539122

>>22539088
based chicken making numberfags seethe

>> No.22539126

>>22538937
But views on covers don't make money so even the most popular cover is a waste of money

>> No.22539184

>>22538434
sorry retard cuck imbecile bro didn't mean to annihilate your anal cavity forever, lmao at you crying esl, the last escape of the anally destroyed
gg no re retard racist imbecile cuck

>> No.22539238

>>22539088
This is why i don't get why people call kiara a numberfag. She literaly said that she knows ger games filter people but plays them anyway since she likes them. I think most antis are still stuck in 2020 when it comes to kiara

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>>22539116
>Ironically also the ones who know the most Japanese. It's really telling, seeing who is diligent enough to sit down and grind a difficult language and who isn't

>> No.22539326

you want views, just use some of that superchat money to pay for bot views like all the kpoppers do

>> No.22539368

THE MEMORIES ARE FLOODING BACK
I REMEMBER NOW
I HATE KIARA
>She went over 1 hour in her debut stream effectively streaming over Senpai-hours and begs people not to leave
>does other "debut streams" probably to get that "debut high" again
>always me me me talk
>poor me I reached 1 MILLION subs LAST!
>she gets angry at Ina for no reason
I remember why I dropped her now.

>> No.22539469

>>22539238
easy ,People dont watch streams and dont listen to chuubas

>> No.22539512

>>22539310
Sana manages to ruin otherwise flawless logic

>> No.22539587

>>22539368
You dropped her because she respects herself and wants to make the most out of a platform she's always dreamed of having? Fucking insecure incel that can't handle a woman wanting the best for herself and working hard to get it. I bet you're fine with Suisei doing it because she's Japanese.

>> No.22539752

>>22539587
Also
>forcing Yuri shit when it was obvious Mori wasn't into it
>celebrating sub goals more than any other EN member
>EN member with zero grasp of english meme culture which made all the jokes from chat fly over her head
Most of these are from her early days.

>> No.22539871

>>22539752
>forcing Yuri shit when it was obvious Mori wasn't into it
Literally defending Mori when she has become the worst for this in EN. Mori constantly forces shit on her genmates.
>celebrating sub goals more than any other EN member
I think it's cute because she's proud of herself. Don't forget she's the only one that has an idol background, respects the culture and had an awful climb up to where she is. No wonder she's proud.
>EN member with zero grasp of english meme culture which made all the jokes from chat fly over her head
Fair point.

>> No.22540231

>>22539368
>>22539752
Wow you´re a really jealous trannie kek

>> No.22540277

>>22538301
Not really. Kiara might work hard, but she has no talent nor intrigue. She lacks the x-factor. Both her and Bae have random-person-off-the-street energy. Also, it's incredibly naive to make statements about what people "deserve" in a luck and connections driven field like entertainment.

>> No.22540283

People who think most covers should hit one million are unironically retarded and should check for their garbage brainrot
500k is great, anything more than that and you're more than good.

>> No.22540397

>>22540283
Suisei and Mori get over 10 million on their covers.

>> No.22540424

>>22540397
2 people out of over 50 you´re a retard too compare some break outs woith the norm

>> No.22540482

>>22536447
Had no idea she had a cover.
I stumbled on the end portion of her 90's game stream and noticed this small pic but just thought it was some fanart.

>> No.22540509

>>22540397
Gangnam Style has over 4 billion views

>> No.22540533

>>22540397
Are you actually retarded? Go tell me how many of watame's original song spam has over one million views
I'm not even a kfp but this kind of numberfagging is the most retarded shit ever

>> No.22540684

Are we going to ignore the fact that there were technical difficulties with YouTube on the day that Kiara uploaded it, where people could not see the side menu?

>> No.22540714

>>22540533
watame did borderline nothing wrong!

>> No.22540774

>>22539019
>How do you do fellow anons, I hate Kiara too, can I sit at the table with you?
RUMAO

>> No.22540799

>>22540684
What does that have to do with anything?
>>22540714
Just saying, numbers=/=quality in any way, shape or form.
And even numberfags in /#/ think the same but their "thread culture" doesn't allow them to use that as a valid argument

>> No.22540883

>>22540533
Watame gets dunked on for being numbers poison all the time. No one wants to do a song collab with her.

>> No.22540964

>>22539116
>know like 15 words and 5 sentences in JP after fucking YEARS of watching anime, listening to JP songs and watching Holo streams and clips on a regular basis
Nigga what? It doesn’t matter how much of that shit you do. If you don’t actually use the language, you’ll never retain it.
Hypothetically, if you forced Ame to go to Japan and stay there with no way back for several years, if she wanted to survive she would learn the language. Anyone would naturally begin to pick up and absorb the language if you forced them into that situation.
Basically you actually have to have a reason to learn and use the language not just every once in a while but legitimately every day. If you only learn so-called “meme words” from anime and watch subtitled clips then of course you’re not serious enough yet about learning to speak the language, but maybe instead going for basics

>> No.22540976

>>22539368
Remember when the board was filled with orange woman? Good times.

>> No.22540980

>>22540883
i want to do a collab with watame!
coco loved her too
why is watame so bad?

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>>22540976
love orange woman

>> No.22541020

>>22536447
stop listening to shitty EN cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t506FUrsOa4

>> No.22541058

>>22538984
This just looks like Ina has a more focused approach to what she wanted to do while it seems that kiara spreads her focus out more. there are reason why someone would like one more than the other. saying one is better than the other is completely retarded and entirely subjective.

>> No.22541092

>>22537380
I was a KFP for months before finally dropping in Jan. Sorry Tenchou I love you but I clicked better with council. Wish you lots of success and more loyal employees.

>> No.22541149

OH NYO IT'S NOT AT MILLION IN 24 HOURS! WHAT WE GONNA DO /vt/SISTERS!!!

Meanwhile Lamy's original song hasn't hit 500k in 5 MONTHS...

>> No.22541339

>>22540996
Orange women better than pink women.

>> No.22541363

>>22541149
Usually, most songs don't hit a million unless they're """"established"""" singers like suisei and mori, or if the cover is very hot right now like how king was and ussewa, or if it's your first song.
Originals are much much harder to get bigger numbers if they're not your first original.
Rushia for example needed a whole year for her iris original to hit a million views

>> No.22541396

>>22536447
Ok so I went to listen again.
It's actually pretty good. Kiara's voice seems to have improved.

I'll be honest, people exagerate the voice thing. She's loud and high pitched but not much more than other holomems.

The real reason I didn't watch her as often is the game selection and the timezone. Her loud voice is perfect to grab your attention but I end up having her in the background while working or sleeping and the combination doesn't work too well.

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Everything is relative. She got more views on Cinderella cover in 2 days than Reine in 2 month.

But do I get butthurt over it? No. I get butthurt over small numbers on Love Me Love Me, because unlike Cinderella it's not a shitty cover but actually a good song.

>> No.22541503

>>22540231
t. faggot

>> No.22541502

>>22541020
I thought Lamy made a Phony cover for a second there. Shame

>> No.22541574

>>22536447
Her Japanese is good, much better than the rest of HoloEN, but I don't like EN vtubers singing in Japanese.

>> No.22541583

>>22539184
Drunk or suffering from dementia.

Or simply an InDog shit

>> No.22541594

>>22541020
Yukimins...I'm sorry, but Lamy really needs to step up her game...

>> No.22541697

>>22541363
Yea and that was Lamy's first original song too (https://youtu.be/ULtGHb83pTI))
So seeing /vt/ flip their shit that an original/cover hadn't hit 1 million (or higher arbitrary value) within a week (or shorter period)
Is just a bit of a joke.

Strangely enough Lamy's duet covers do stronger with her Nene collab hitting half a million in a month and her Lion cover with Botan hitting close to 1.5M in 4 months.
I'm not going to count the Blessing Cover as that's a Gen 5 group cover (3.8M in 8 months) since well full gen covers tend to really screw with numbers because well 4 fanbases combining onto one song.

>> No.22541825

Well if all OP has left to grasp at straws is how a cover of an 8 months old song remix is doing, I'd say Kiara is doing pretty well for herself.
But keep numberfagging tho says a lot about your state of mind.

>> No.22541864

Why aren't we talking about Amelia's garbage cover then? kek

>> No.22541919

>>22541864
Amelia is a shit singer and everyone has accepted that.

>> No.22541999

>>22541864
Try reading the thread next time retard nigger.

>> No.22542164

>>22541999
>ctrl+f "Amelia"
>two results
Kill yourself

>> No.22542353

>>22542164
>illiterate nigger continuing to prove he's an illiterate nigger

>> No.22542426

>>22537024
Concentrated SOUL injected through my ears

>> No.22542460

>>22542164
How many results does Ame get literacy pro?

>> No.22542483

>>22542353
>>22541999
please dont be racists

>> No.22545748

>>22542483
kek you know where you are here nigger right ?

>> No.22545820

>>22536447
Isn't that every cover she does?

>> No.22545840

>>22540277
she literally said that herself.

>> No.22548215

>>22542483
I would prefer to be outright racist than faking not being racist for the sake of being politically correct.

>> No.22548496

>>22548215
i dont care either way i´m white

>> No.22548562

Use her real voice and stop forced laughing like pekora then maybe il consider

>> No.22548784

>>22537546
Are you faggots stuck a year in the past? Kiaras been based for awhile and nobody hates orange woman anymore for anything other than her voice.

>> No.22548831

>>22538127
I think it's that her best content is Zatsudans, big filter for people who can't do long streams or handle her voice. I don't watch her much but respect her work ethic, after being all over the place early on I'm surprised she's stuck with it

>> No.22548888

>>22541479
Well, it was released as a "b-side", she probably should have spaced out her originals

>> No.22549268

>>22540277
>She lacks the x-factor
It's the Austrian in her, which ironically would make for an entertaining loli kara to play opposite of Gura's shitposter status. .

>> No.22549460

>>22548831
I like her as a person and respect the shit out of her grind, but her voice filters me. I started to really like her in collabs (after being an anti- myself for a time) once I understood the archetype she was portraying. Her whining and crying in the Monopoly collab is actually hilarious when you realize she's playing a character.

>> No.22550540

>>22549460
>Her whining and crying in the Monopoly collab is actually hilarious when you realize she's playing a character
Nigger if you have watched her long enough you would know that wasn't an act, especially when she started drifting her chat away from the game, that was her coping mechanism going full throttle. She even said it was a just a tad bit much what she did there during a superchat reading some days later.
-t. kfp

>> No.22550934

>>22539122
She was a numberfag for first couple months until mane-chan told her to stop and play whatever she wants
...which happen to be games that a western audience generally doesn't care about. Ironically, if she had a significant JP audience, she'd probably be more popular
It's kind of a pity that her primary non-language talent, dancing and overall idol stuff, can't be demonstrated easily with home vtuber equipment.

>> No.22552241

>>22550540
Gotta give to Kiara for being honest to a fault. It's hard to find that kind of people in the entertainment industry.

>> No.22552561

Uhhh >we hate orange woman now?

>> No.22552740

>>22537191
Actually, it’s becoming people don’t like Kiara.

>> No.22552822

Egg's reclined...

>> No.22552837

>>22538621
Now that’s a BTFO. May wanna slink away and lick your wounds on Discord, chickenshits.

>> No.22553027

>>22552561
Only if you're a tranny.

>> No.22553519

>>22550540
>Monopoly collab
not even a kfp and even I felt bad for her and couldn't finish watching

>> No.22553833

>>22538127
>She loves her fanbase
That's the problem. Kiaras content always feels like it's very specifically for kfp, not for the general public.
Everytime I check out her stream it feels exclusionary

>> No.22554129

If KFP weren't so mentally challenged they could just smile and go enjoy Kiara's songs. But instead KFP need to numberfag and discuss every rrat they can think of.

>> No.22554235

>>22538698
I really want to understand what you're talking about here.
What has Kiara done to deserve more success than Ina?
Do you mean her idol grind before hololive? Because who's to say Ina wasn't working even harder to build her skill and business as an artist?
If you mean because Ina doesn't read superchats and cultivate a community vibe, ie if ur saying Kiara is a "better" arch typical YouTuber or vtuber (song covers etc) than Ina and thus deserves success in the industry more... Well then you need to confront the fact that clearly what Kiara is doing is not what the audience wants, not as much as they want what Ina is doing, hence the numbers.
Sure Kiara might work harder at being an idol, but evidently that's not a service that's in high demand and she should be smart enough to realize that.

If I work hard stacking frogs at the lake every day, I don't get to be upset that software engineers make more money than me without working hard. It makes me an idiot for not realizing no one gives a shit about frog stacking

>> No.22554313

>>22554129
>KFP
Yes, this is totally "KFP" shitting up /hlgg/ and making bait threads

>> No.22554322

>>22554129
>Kiara drag thread
>thinks OP is kfp
?????

>> No.22554388

Feels like people here don't watch streams, good. Keep being laughingstock of /vt/

>> No.22554414

>>22536447
IDK what song is it

>>22537024
i like it

>> No.22554462

>>22550540
And yet, she still like Monopoly and want to do it again. While Fauna suffered silently, but think that Monopoly wasn’t a good experience.

>> No.22554563

Meanwhile, Tsunderia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWcA8c-xpA

>> No.22554606

>>22538984
>Kiara ticks so many boxes for what vtuber fans look
Like I said in my other long reply just now, obviously she fucking doesn't. Because they would watch her if she did.
You can't say she's doing what the audience wants but is not getting rewarded. Clearly the implication is that the audience doesn't fucking want it.
Kiara is not a 2view struggling to get noticed. All the people who want what Kiara offers are already watching her.
More people simply want what Ina is offering.
And Ina pretty much does zero self promotion, doesn't read supers, barely tweets, doesn't make music, she's not loud. But clearly more people want that than they want Kiara.
People will say Inas boring but is what I want. If I look for a movie review I'm picking the boring one not the one with the obnoxious red arrow thumbnail who starts every video yelling "WHAT IS UP MY DUDES IT'S YA BOY FAGGYPANTS69 BACM AT IT AGAIN WITH ANOTHER...."
I want someone who'll show up, draw high quality art in 3 hours and dip

>> No.22554665

>>22554313
>>22554322
Who else cares about her "true" voice and her numbers. Kiara is a numberfag herself so of course KFP are numberfags too.

>> No.22554746

>>22539238
>This is why i don't get why people call kiara a numberfag.

>Stream sparks
>crys about being last to hit 1 million
People call her a numberfag because she is/was

>> No.22554872

Blaming it on the algorithm has to be the biggest cope I've seen here

>> No.22555479

>>22554313
Nobody ever brings up Kiara unless it's kfp.
The catalog doesn't actively hate her anymore she's just irrelevant

>> No.22555545

>i had just barely forgotten her sobbing on stream that she was "last" to hit 1M of the Myth girls
I swear all of you niggers just saw 1 thumbnail from 1 clip from the [SERIOUS] clipper and callet it a day.
Actually it feels like whenever I see this talk about her "sobbing over being the last to hit 1M" its written the exact same way, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's just one singular schizo.

>> No.22555630

>>22555479
Cannot be more wrong.
An egg (probably just 1 person, maybe 3 people from the eggcord) has shitted over /hlgg/ everyday for like a week straight. Eggs will use anything they can to shit on Kiara still today. This isn’t even the worse performing cover, it’s only relevant because it gives ammos to eggs.

>> No.22555681

>>22555479
How new?

>> No.22555739

>>22555630
What kind of mongoloid actually participates in hlgg.
Probably the same people who send attention seeking comments on stream, ie any kind of comment on stream

>> No.22555784

>>22555479
>He says that when he's shitposting on a Kiara hate thread made up for an egg.
KEK

>> No.22555840

>>22555739
>What kind of mongoloid actually participates in hlgg.
Half of the messages on this board are /hlgg/. I would say the exact opposite, if you don’t post in a general, it’s pretty guaranteed that you are a shitposter who doesn’t watch streams.

>> No.22555857

>>22537335
i'm still listening

>> No.22555979

>>22537024
holy shit it's brimming with SOUL

>> No.22556070

>>22545748
yes, a blue board now be better

>> No.22556153

>>22555840
He knows he'll get bullied out of the thread by the anons in hlgg.

>> No.22556708

>>22556153
What the fuck does that even mean.
Do you realize how cringe that sounds "Yeah we bullied him out of the thread boys".
Exactly the type of person who spends time in hlgg.

>> No.22556749

>>22556153
Now let's go bully our cute shark wife with superchats uwu.
Faggots

>> No.22556980

>>22556749
This but unironically

>> No.22557061

>>22556708
I'm sorry it happened to you.

>> No.22557162

>>22536706
It's always been a decline for Kiara

>> No.22557562

>>22537024
This was also delayed for five years due to management autism

>> No.22557695

>>22537024
>2nd worst Hololive singer
>Shit views in the one video where she can't entertain her audience with other stuff unrelated to her singing
I'd say that checks out

>> No.22557878

>>22553833
This is actually the right answer.

>> No.22558550

>>22538127
Holotalk is her only good content since half the time it's not her talking

>> No.22558936
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22558936

>>22536447
Most of her viewerbase is dying or dead considering recent world events

>> No.22559073

>>22536447
I just don't care for the song.
The remix and singing itself isn't bad. But I've just heard this song to death and don't care about it anymore.

>> No.22559103

>>22550934
>Ironically, if she had a significant JP audience, she'd probably be more popular
I'd wonder why her and Mori were slotted into EN, instead of being part of Gen 5.

>> No.22559454

What mom jokes does to a egg

>> No.22559605

>>22536447
This song is awful. I knew that HoloEN had no good singer, but the shark, but I didn't know it was this bad.

>> No.22559691

>>22559454
kiara's eggs are dying
she's killing them
she's killing herself
she's probably looking at this thread right now and crying and screaming and shitting and cumming

>> No.22559817

>>22559691
Huh. I didn't know your mother's name was Kiara anon.

>> No.22561587

the original is shit

>> No.22561603

>>22536447
weird
that one is pretty good

>> No.22561823

>>22537024
That's pretty sad, because it's a cute song with cute visuals. It deserves more

>> No.22561986

>>22537024
how about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhkfm1dX7BM
>vsinger original song
>22 days 372K views

>> No.22562173

>>22561986
I personally love IRyS voice but the lyrics of her songs suck. They should've just made it to Japanese if they'll be using japanese translated to English lyrics.

>> No.22562550

you should just check the other cover numbers, they are not much better

>> No.22562923

>>22538127
Her voice still filters a lot of people.
You ask just about anyone outside of the hl threads why they don't watch Kiara and they'll tell you it's her voice.
Everyone knows that it's fake, it's annoying and grating and hurts to listen to for long periods of time.

>> No.22563187

>>22562923
>Everyone knows that it's fake, it's annoying and grating and hurts to listen to for long periods of time.
I thought it was real for the longest time. Maybe some pitch adjustments or whathaveyou at the mixer, but not anything beyond her speaking normally into a microphone.
I don't feel any pain from listening to her for hours, and I didn't with her debut setup either.
I've been told I don't hear high-pitches well, so I think it's possible that Kiara's voice sounds different based on your age. Some young zoomer in high-school might think it's shrill, while an older person would think it sounds fine.

>> No.22563250

>>22540397
irys' song cover has 100m views

>> No.22563414
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22563414

>>22548784
stuck a year in the past?
Yes, they have run out of things to bicker and seethe about
Kiara made everyone at Holofes kneel, and will be spending lots of time with her friends like ame and reine

>> No.22563483

>>22559691
>she's probably looking at this thread right now and crying and screaming and shitting and cumming
Kiara is not Mori...

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22563512

>>22537024
hoiley sheeeit. Can teammates tell Ame she has to never sing again please?

>> No.22565674

>>22563512
kek

>> No.22567621

>>22555979
dont lie

>> No.22567909

>>22537894
>>22537024
this song sucks.

>> No.22568502

>>22537024
so shit I like it

>> No.22569435

>>22567909
It does indeed

>> No.22570230

>>22568502
how the fuck does that work ?

>> No.22570617

>schizo laughed out of hlgg
>can't even get support from catalog dramaniggers
this is fuckin sad

>> No.22571164

>>22570617
i´d say he got 190 posts out of them thats pretty respectable

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