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Why are there so many normalfags here against unicorns now? It's weird when you know vtubers wouldn't be so popular without them and even weirder when you remember all the core and biggest members of corpos have pandered to unicorns for ages. Take the unicorn pill. If your oshi collabs with males or mentions them and you're tired of it, unsub. Send them a message. Vtubers are so much more enjoyable when it's just cute anime girls playing games, not partaking in drama regarding males, discussing their relationships, and mentioning them constantly. We watch vtubers to escape from reality, not be reminded of it, right?

>> No.22516780,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>22516402
okay, so unicorns are the extreme form of gachikois?

>> No.22505977

I don't need to escape from reality because I'm not a cowardly loser that can't handle the real world.
From what reality are you escaping exactly, demanding that vtubers don't interact with males?
Did someone fucked your crush or are you an incel?

>> No.22506036

>>22505561
I need make sure others feel worse about their life than I do about my own in order to validate myself.

>> No.22506239

>>22505561
I normally Dont care about you faggots but the moment you start attacking vtubers i like over something so trivial really makes me wish all of you retarda get the rope

>> No.22506309

>>22506036
Normalfags in a nutshell.

>> No.22506438

>harrass and shame vtubers over sexist bullshit
>Wahhh, why don't normal fags like me!!!
>Why don't they let me bully with impunity??!!!

>> No.22506499

>>22505561
Unicorns can be easily turned into antis. You are more likely to attack the girls than attacking their boyfriends/husbands.
So much for a "fan"

>> No.22506520

>>22506438
>>Wahhh, why don't normal fags like me!!!
Not a single fan of vtubers or user of this board wants your acceptance.

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>>22505561
im pathetic but unicorns are a different level of sad get fucked

>> No.22506838

>>22505561
i'm not even asking you to talk to women
i'm not even asking you to have sex
i'm just asking you to stop forcing your mental illnesses on others

>> No.22506996

>>22505561
It's unironically the women who have come here ever since the male NijiENs debuted.

>> No.22507020

>>22505977
>or are you an incel?

Indeed. I've started calling what most call GFE "incel-pandering Experience" instead because calling it girlfriend experience only works if you're operating on a mad incel's idea of what a girlfriend is.

In what world is your girlfriend not allowed to have any male friends?

>> No.22507078

>>22505977
>i-im a MANLY MAN for posting this r-right? Did I own him?
>>22506239
>>22506438
>>22506499
Not all of us are rabid and start attacking our oshis when something regarding m*les comes up. I personally just stop watching for a bit or leave permanently if it continues excessively. I don't want to be reminded that other men. Simple as.

>> No.22507200

Gachikois, unicorns, simps, stans, shippers.
How you gonna differentiate these 5 groups that have same energy to begin with?

>> No.22507394

>>22507200
>gachikoi
romantically in love with chuuba
>unicorns
wants the chuuba they watch to be a virgin, almost always gachikoi and unicorn for their oshi but there are some who just hate non-virgins period
>simps
either into findom or brainwashed unironic cucks
>stans
women
>shippers
either faglovers using faggotry as cope because they don't want to admit to being jealous, people who think real people are one of their animu despite vtubers never actually acting or being more fake than a normal person is just because of the live2d, or once again unironic cucks but they're poor

>> No.22507420

>>22505561
They are just antis. You can post some bait that didn't happen and they will fall for it because they don't watch streams. Fact is, a lot of normalfags are addicted to social media and they look for places to raid.

>> No.22507505

>>22507200
>gachikoi = unicorns
person who overly in love with their oshi to the point that they would be mad if they are or even had a relationship
>simps
literally the opposite of gachikois. they would still donate and support their oshis even if they're in confirmed relationship. cucks

>stan
what the fuck is a stan?

>shipper
they usually ship their favorite character to their other favorite character, not necessarily themselves.

am I being clear here?

>> No.22507509

>>22507420
You are the only sane one in this thread

>> No.22507606

>>22506438
>basic standards that no one had an issue following until western whores got involved are sexist

>> No.22507637

>>22507020
I'll start doing this too

>> No.22507724

>>22507020
>In what world is your girlfriend not allowed to have any male friends?
>Implying sane women would ever want to date a unicorn to begin with

>> No.22507821

>>22507078
No, you don't understand. You're either an all-forgiving simp or you're a psychopathic incel anti. There's nothing in-between.

>> No.22507851

All your Hololive idols are getting fucked by Apex Pros
The only one safe is Towa since she's organizing the sex discord

>> No.22508090

All choobas are getting railed on the reg, even the unicorns know this. They just want their oshi to retain the illusion while performing for them, as long as the role is played for them properly they're happy to part with their money. Of course they get upset if the other party breaks the illusion after they've gotten so deeply invested, it's an unspoken agreement and the other party walked back on their promise, in the unicorns' minds. The steamer signs up for it when they pander to their unicorns instead of dispelling the illusion from the get go.

>> No.22508107

>>22507821
>>22507505
>>22507394
How am I a cuck? I am just not delusional, I know the vtuber is not my gf. I don't care if she has a bf.

>> No.22508893

>>22507394
>>22507505
>gachikoi
Matuli is hskw gachikoi and laplus is towa gachikoi
>unicorns
This term comes from japan, because jp fans is even more schizo than western counterpart
>simps
Agree
>stans
More like k-pop stans, brainwashed fans
>shippers
Agree

All corpos have their own gachikois and unicorns. Biproduct of corpos capitalism

>> No.22509463

>>22505561
>It's weird when you know vtubers wouldn't be so popular without them and even weirder when you remember all the core and biggest members of corpos have pandered to unicorns for ages.
Imagine believing this? Got any examples?

>> No.22509577

>>22509463
He's lying.

>> No.22509686

>>22505561
Anything failed normalfags don't regularly do is haram and must be destroyed. It really doesn't matter what it is that's the only criteria for them to go into attack mode.

>> No.22509859

>>22506996
Dont forget the faggots and tranies, they also come with NijiEN males.

>> No.22509997

>>22509463
>>22509577
Yeah, 99% of Hololive avoids streaming with males for no reason at all

>> No.22510088

>>22509997
to avoid the "drama" of it the schizos would cause

>> No.22510189

>>22510088
So the schizos are simultaneously irrelevant, but so powerful that it keeps most of Hololive from completely interacting with an entire gender

>> No.22510287

>>22510189
No one said irrelevant, retard. Their only influence is negative

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>> No.22510322

i read a doujin today about a snow elf that looked like lamy. i came buckets

>> No.22510386

>>22510287
propping up the entire industry is a negative?

>> No.22510542

>>22510386
If that were true you might have a point.

>> No.22510638

>>22505561
Your breed is dying, anon, face it. Good riddance.

>> No.22510869

>>22505561
maybe if you took your meds you'd realize vtubers disappear when you turn off your computer, they are not your friends

>> No.22511030

>>22505561
>Why are there so many normalfags here against unicorns now?
It's not new, people have always hated idiots that try to dictate how others should live. This is exactly what unicorns do to streamers (you can't talk to males etc. etc.)
>It's weird when you know vtubers wouldn't be so popular without them and even weirder when you remember all the core and biggest members of corpos have pandered to unicorns for ages
Absolutely untrue majority of fans for vtubers are just people that enjoy the content of the person they just have an anime avatar. VTubers are very much an inclusive experience if it was exclusive to Unicorns it'd be lsiterally nothing but privated passworded content and members only for said unicorns.
>Take the unicorn pill. If your oshi collabs with males or mentions them and you're tired of it, unsub.
Literally reinforcing what I stated earlier about unicorns trying to dictate things.
> We watch vtubers to escape from reality, not be reminded of it, right?
You want to escape reality? put a 9mm bullet through your head

>> No.22511085

>>22509997
Nobody avoids it, they just don't have male friends. Calli, Bae, Matsuri, Mumei, etc. Have collabed with males.

>> No.22511091

good bait op. let me help you

>> No.22511172

>>22505561
Just fucking kill yourself already. You’re inevitably going to do it later anyway, might as well waste less of the world’s resources on the way out.

>> No.22511264

>>22510189
the schizos are unfortunately still relevant

>> No.22511300

>>22510189
schizos help to signal boost.

>> No.22511333

The mentally ill should not be coddled into their delusions

>> No.22511439

>>22508107
Because you're a subservient doormat for a woman who actively pursues demeaning yourself for her sake for the sake of itself. That's why being a cuck is a bad thing, which makes you a cuck.

>> No.22511495

Normies have zero foresight, they can't see anything but what they're told by reddit and twitter, so ruin anything they touch as a result. Don't bother talking to them, they hardly ever listen.

>> No.22511516

>>22511439
>demeaning yourself
you people are braindead

>> No.22511559

>>22505561
look at how they react to elon promising free speech on twitter. they're vampires.

>> No.22511580

>>22505561
normalfags and NPCs were always against unicorns. The question should rather be "why there are more redditor tier normalfags here as of late" and i don't really know, perhaps vsluts getting upvoted on LSF? I blame veibae and other twitch whores with trained cucks.

>> No.22511682

>>22507078
You're fine but not a unicorn, they are exactly what you described.

>> No.22511760

Don’t care, didn’t ask + I’m only here for entertaining streamers with anime avatars.

>> No.22511781

>>22507606
Strangle yourself fuckhead, even nips hate that shit

>> No.22511808

>>22505977
FPBP

>> No.22511845

>>22505561
>Why are there so many normalfags here against unicorns now?
EOPs upset about the green haired bitch that winded up migrating here after the shit that happened on twitter shitting up the place because they still think she didn't deserve to get fired.

>> No.22511915

>>22507505
No you retard gachikoi and unicorn are vastly different and not interchangable at all.

>> No.22512074

>>22505561
Anon, once upon a time there were no Holos. Chuuba fans weren't made up of deranged idolbu unifags. This isn't a change, if anything this is a return to the way it used to be.

>> No.22512081

unicorns will post that "death of a hobby" comic fully knowing they weren't the original fans of vtubing and only latched on like a cancer after holo gen 3. It isn't le normalfag invaders, and after what happened to Aloe I'll march every one of you faggots off a cliff

>> No.22512126

>>22512074
>>22512081
Based oldfags

>> No.22512142

>>22509997
He said all core members of big corpos which is a blatant lie. Nigga trying to say that without unicorns, vtubing wouldn't be where it is today. Unicorns are a loud self important minority that no one gives a shit about.

>> No.22512212

>>22505561
because you retards keep breaking containment and talking about /vt/ to those retards

>> No.22512219

>>22512081
did someone just say weeaboo?

>> No.22512252

>>22512142
Well, except for almost all of the top female vtubers, that is

>> No.22512330

>>22510189
The vast majority of Holos are mentally fragile and can't handle hate or criticism. The ones that aren't fragile do whatever they want, including collabing with males if that's what they personally want to do.

>> No.22512335

>>22507606
Your Sharia law "basic standards" were abandoned by the civilized world centuries ago. Don't try to impose them on the girls.

>> No.22512565

>>22512081
Pretty much this. Old Holo and old NIJI didn't give a fuck about unicorns. And neither did original Vtubers

>> No.22512602

>>22511085
>>22512330
Women who regularly perform in front of tens of thousands of people are just too mentally fragile to stand up to a tiny number of schizos? They also don't happen to know any men, somehow. Sure, that makes a lot of sense

>> No.22512631

Note that unicorns have ruined every otaku-based fandom they've entered. Anime, Japanese music, idols, VTubers, etc.

>> No.22512652

>>22512252
>Mori
>Ironmouse
>Fucking Kizuna AI
Yeah fuck off

>> No.22512716

>>22512602
Yes.
Knowing men =/= knowing a collab partner. Not everybody is a streamer.

>> No.22513265

>>22512716
Anon, I think they're all aware of Holostars existence

>> No.22513353

>>22513265
And? That doesn't mean they are friends.

>> No.22513476

>Hololive has to compete with an established vtubing/streaming company, Niji
>The way you get popular with streaming is to take something with a broad appeal and add a twist, to make you unique in the sea of others doing the same thing
>Yagoo decides to make them like idols to appeal to a unique audience, singing dancing etc
>part of being an idol is to avoid drama and try to achieve some kind of dream (being a big successful singer, dancer, etc)
>one of the biggest causes of drama is always men/women interactions (just look at hollywood)
>Idols separate themselves from men for this sake, this attracts unicorns and gachis as a side effect, but not as a main point.
>Holo isn't popular enough to survive just on this however, so they settle with collabing with Niji boys sometimes.
>Eventually when they don't need to anymore, they stop. Surprise! Idols who call themselves idols try to behave like idols.
>Miko even says she doesn't want to all on her own, completely swears off male collabs. Surprise again! Idols like idol culture too, some more than others.
>Some still associate with men, such as Fubuki, Matsuri, Choco, even Sora, the one easily seen as one of the biggest idols of the group.
>Normies see something different
>Normies are mentally deficient, cannot understand that some people like something they don't, and that men behave different around women and women different around men, refuse to allow this unique draw for Holo, blaming "sexism".
>become idol antis while pretending to like Holos, despite holos being idols.
Normies are genuinely retarded and don't even understand streaming, much less that things like sex segregated groups naturally have a different feel to them than ones that aren't. You can't expect them to understand anything even vaguely complicated or different unless they're trained to by twitter or reddit or something, they're like animals.

>> No.22513701

>>22511915
>both are massive schizos
>both doesn't want their oshi to collab with male
>both doesn't want their oshi to even mention male
the only difference is that gachikoi are from Japanese and unicorn are English. what's the difference then, retard?

>> No.22513757

>>22513476
(You) invaded this hobby. (You) are the ones that create the drama. Everything was fine and then unicorn schizos flooded the community with their severe retardation. Plus it's already clear that the peak unicorn era is over. Rushia is gone, no one watches Lamy, and there are enough fans of other chuubas to dilute the unicorns that Holofags brought in.

>> No.22514018

>>22513757
Buddy I'm not even a unicorn gachi or anything, my oshi is Fubuki and I regularly watch the Stars. I just want you braindead faggots to fuck off, stop trying to ruin the group dynamics for both Hololive and Holostars and to stop trying to turn this shit into Nijisanji because you're too stupid to understand something that's different. Drooling neanderthal.

>> No.22514111

>>22513476
Unicorns don't say "this will change the group dynamic", they call the talents whore and slut.
Plus, if this was about group dynamic, collabong with men once in a while would not sully vtubers, like unicorns claim.

>> No.22514217

The only reason vt is going back on it now is because they know half of council have bfs so they’re coping and all of sudden of morals.

>> No.22514222

>>22514018
Nice strawman. We don't want to change Hololive, we are just saying why we hate Unicorns.
Are you really fine with unicorns calling Fubuki a whore because she collabs with men?

>> No.22514261

I genuinely cannot fathom unicorn shit. They are quite possibly the most pathetic people to ever exist. I avoid Holobrony threads like the plague and stick to Nijisanji and /wvt/ indies.

>> No.22514371

>>22514018
Retardchama that anon was talking about the pre-Holo days, not everything is about Hololive

>> No.22514476

>>22513757
Based oldfag who definitely remembers how people reacted to Ai's interview with theanimeman

>> No.22514529

>>22514476
Anon, no one likes theanimeman. It was based when she collabed with Toya.

>> No.22514583

>>22514476
Nobody outside of this shithole gave a shit

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>>22514261
Yeah good thing those are immune to unicorns, let's go watch Pomu and Finana offcollab again with entirely nothing happening to upset anyone.

>> No.22514706

>>22514018
>hating unicorns = changing hololive culture
Seems like you’re the retard here, dumb fuck. Kill yourself.

>> No.22514755

>>22514706
Nta but thats not what he said, baitchama

>> No.22515654

>>22514755
Yes it is. Retardchama.

>> No.22515753

Lamy is shit and she's not a GFE. Cope nigga.

>> No.22515983

>>22514683
>He doesn’t know

>> No.22516217

>>22505561
See how they hyper-fixated on the unicorn thing>>22514111 >>22514222 >>22514706, despite the fact it literally says
>Idols separate themselves from men for this sake, this attracts unicorns and gachis as a side effect, but not as a main point. >>22513476
and the entire point was that you can completely ignore the unicorns and simply enjoy the unique appeal this approach offers WITHOUT shitting your diaper about it?
They can't process anything other than what twitter's told them to hate, and completely focus on non-arguments. I hope this helps op.

>> No.22516402

>>22513701
NTA but you could just read the thread instead of embarrassing yourself

>> No.22516426

>>22516217
OP's question was why unicorns are hated. They got thwir answer. They are hated because they are antis that call everyone whores and they generally act annoying. Simple as.

>> No.22516688

>>22516426
Somewhat. He actually asked
>Why are there so many normalfags here against unicorns now?
>now?
So I was trying to highlight the reason for the change that he seemed to be curious about. I'd mostly blame Niji and their fans usual weird zeal for screaming at Cover for random things, combined with the twitter crowds attaching themselves to the Nijis AND the small segregation thing Holos do being a massive bait for the usual twitter warriors. But, yes. Unicorns and gachis are unreasonably annoying when they're loud, but you can just ignore them like Fubuki did and take a hit to subs/viewers and move on from there if you want them to leave.

>> No.22516729

>>22505561
>vtubers wouldn't be so popular without them
Sasuga unicorn chaser living in head-fantasy land

>> No.22516780

>>22516688
>Twitter crowd attaching themselves to Niji
You’re surprised?

>> No.22516944

>>22516402
okay, so unicorns are the extreme form of gachikois?

>> No.22517551

>>22516944
No. Most unicorns are casuals and unicorn for all viewers. Gachikoi are extreme and will follow their Vtuber to the ends of the earth. There are Gachikoi Unicorns, but the main thing is that they will throw away being a unicorn before they throwaway being a Gachikoi. Which means that Unicorn can not be a more extreme form of Gachikoi, since the unicorn breaks under pressure and gives up their ideals to maintain their love and being a gachikoi.

>> No.22517568

>>22516944
literal newfaggot

>> No.22517615

>>22516780
Oh god, no. I knew they'd do it since the start, but I still blame them for the weird gachi/unicorn hate fetish popping up recently instead of simply ignoring them.

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>>22505977
>I don't need to escape from reality because I'm not a cowardly loser that can't handle the real world.
If you don't see any problems with the real world, then you are the problem.

>> No.22518191

>>22517774
I didn't say there aren't any problems. Just that I don't feel the need to escape them.

>> No.22518617

>>22516944
Unicorns only want to control and impose on their oshi with their failed ideals and throw a autistic shitfit as soon as they get even slightly inconvenienced.
They also tend to become dedicated antis when the chuuba refuses to get locked up in a golden cage because they are just mentally ill and can't admit it.

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>>22518191
Just so you know, ignoring problems is still escapism; just because it doesn't involve videogames or Vtubers doesn't make it any different. Posting on 4chan is also escapism. Pretty much all entertainment of some sort involves some level of escapism, because happiness can only be realistically achieved if you know how to let go of your problems, even if only temporarily.

>> No.22519870

>>22519217
Why are males prohibited in your escapism though? From what problem exactly are you escaping?

>> No.22519963

>>22519217
Lmao no. I acknowledge and confront my problems; I don't ignore them.

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fellow Holoniggers why do so many poeple hate us???

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>>22519870
>From what problem exactly are you escaping?
People insisting that I MUST shackle myself to a woman for the rest of my life to be happy, while simultaneously seeing every woman in my classes and workplace as ugly, irritable, and disinterested in games or anime. Therefore, I escape to Vtubers to find women who are none of those things.

>>22519963
You've singlehandedly solved the Ukraine war and broken up every child sex slave ring in Hollywood? How come the news didn't report on it?

>> No.22520657

>>22505561
Roasties lose their mind when you remind them that purity is a desirable quality in women to most men. It's something they don't have and never can have again and that drives them nuts.

>> No.22520702

>>22517774
Sure thing you have a point if ignoring problem is a form of escapism. You're also right about the real world have a bunch of problems (realistically unicorns is one of them)

But let's don't forget if the context is still about that person is only answering why normies hates crazy & entitled Unicorns who only want to dictate their favorite livers. And his answer were totally make sense.

>> No.22520814

>>22520657
Purity is a made up subjective measure.
Feels good to once in your lifetime be in control doesn't it?

>> No.22520960

>>22520702
>why normies hates crazy & entitled Unicorns who only want to dictate their favorite livers.
That is literally what girls like Rushia or Lamy ask for by actively doing GFE. Unicorns are paying money for a service that was promised to them; when that promise is broken, then they essentially got scammed, and have every right to protest about the poor service they received.

>> No.22521014

>>22520814
>Purity is a made up subjective measure.
Roastie delusions, everyone.

>> No.22521023

>>22520814
>Purity is a made up subjective measure.
I'd say the structural integrity of a hymen can be objectively measured

>> No.22521063

>>22505561
I don't hate unicorns per se, you could say I was something like that before vtubers were a thing (remember Kannagi?), it's just that with time I've come to realize that I don't really care about that shit anymore, and I would hate if someone called my oshi a whore just for talking to a man or when retards start shit when vtubers they don't even watch collab with males, and that's mostly unicorns trying to shit on other companies.
I agree that normalfags always complaining about "idol culture" are annoying as fuck though, just let the girls do their thing, if they're GFE it's obvious who they're pandering to and the fans have the right to get angry when they fuck that up.
I guess my problem with unicorns is that they tend to think that they're the only real fans and everyone else is a normalfag bandwagoner so they turn aggresive real fast, when the truth is that while otaku culture has always been centered around escapism and idealization, it's never really been about appealing to them or other kind of purists, in fact, not even Idols are always like that, that's mostly the Akimoto model, but old Idols and even current Chika Idols do some shit that would make the average Holo unicorn seethe for ages, and the have some hardcore gachikois still.

>> No.22521222

>>22520558
I feel bad for what happen in your real life, but that looks like your own problem rather than "our" problem that people needs to escape. Imo what you did to seek vtubers as a form pf escapism is totally fine, you seems like a nice KFP.

Then again right now we only talking about those crazy unicorns who will scream tf out when they see their oshi collabing with a male, and having a desire to dictate and owning them as a whole. When in reality they don't have any rights to that. These kind of person is not good and shouldn't be normalize, they're also different with people who only seek vtubers for entertainment and escapism just like you

>> No.22521256

>>22520657
If you want purity why are you watching someone that caters to a faceless mob of rejects? Go find a cute nun.

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Wamy thread?
Wamy thread!

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>>22521222
>Then again right now we only talking about those crazy unicorns who will scream tf out when they see their oshi collabing with a male, and having a desire to dictate and owning them as a whole.
Oh, I wasn't talking about that, those people are chink-tier bugmen. I just saw someone try to paint all escapism as bad, which in a board based on an escapism industry (like all entertainment industries) is something that I cannot help but disagree with.

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>>22520814
>Purity is a made up subjective measure

>> No.22521547

>>22507020
>In what world is your girlfriend not allowed to have any male friends?
A world where you don't want to get cheated on. I know you're a cuckold and like the idea of your girlfriend having sex with other men, but some of us are normal instead.

>> No.22521611

>>22520960
None of them ask for a bunch of fucking grown up adults to dictate them in every move.

What they give is Girlfriend "Experience" they ONLY give you the experience, doesn't mean they're willing to be the unicorns and gachikoi actual girlfriends. No sane women would like to date crazy men who only want to control their lives and calling them "whore" just because of them having a very basic interaction with other men.

Also this toxic unicorns are even exist inside vtuber fanbases who doesn't pander to GFE and fanservice shits. That means this problem is totally made from the audiences entitlement itselves, they think they have the rights to control their oshi just because they donate some bucks when the truth is those bucks are Donation (which means no one should demand anything in return)

>> No.22521652

>>22512565
>Old Holo and old NIJI didn't give a fuck about unicorns
Stop pulling shit out of your ass. Are Aqua, Ayame, Shion, Subaru not old enough to be 'old Holo',? Do these girls interact with any male in the past 2 years? Also the good Nijis also don't interact with males if they can avoid it, like Lulu and Gibara, they all left Niji because that place is fucking cancerous.

>> No.22521661

>>22512335
>expecting a woman to go five minutes without drinking cum is "sharia law" now

>> No.22521732

>>22521547
>being too weak to keep your woman loyal
Sounds like your fucking problem onions boy

>> No.22521758

This thread stinks like crusty femcel underwear and faggots cum stench breath

>> No.22521846

>>22521547
No one is getting cucked. Your oshi is never been and never will be your girlfriend, stop the delusion and unrealistic metaphor.

>> No.22521931

>>22521652
Subaru has done collabs with Maitomo

>> No.22522092

>>22521661
Ahmed, stop using the internet and go buy a wife to beat instead of expecting anime girls to LARP about

>> No.22522192

>>22521758
>Unicorns talks like twelve year olds

>> No.22522370

>>22521063
>I guess my problem with unicorns is that they tend to think that they're the only real fans and everyone else is a normalfag bandwagoner so they turn aggresive real fast
This is literally it but unitards are too schizo to realize it. If they didn't chimp out every 30 seconds and act like an anti people wouldn't dislike them so much

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>>22521256
>Go find a cute nun
Well I found a nun vtuber but she's anything but pure. What a waste of a design, she even has a very nice voice too.

>> No.22522987

>>22521931
Not in the past 2 years. That was when she's not fully an idol and Holo needed to collab with Niji to get viewers because Holo used to get 2k viewers at most and Niji used to get 20k, which used to be huge.

>> No.22523146

>>22522987
>Not fully an idol
Fucking kek

>> No.22523246

>>22522686
If you want purity go find some Amish girl to marry and stop getting mad at drawings on the internet

>> No.22523442

>>22521547
Under how many layers of delusion do Unicorns operate?
1. Buying her membership doesn't make you her boyfriend. She's not your girlfriend, she doesn't even know you. You are not entitled to control her sexuality.
2. Nowhere outside of Afghanistan is talking with another man considered cheating, or a betrayal. Her talking with a man doesn't mean she fucked him.

>> No.22523727

This thread is why blue boards shouldn't exist. If we could self regulate by flooding normalfaggot threads with gore and scat, this board would be so much better.

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This is a popular topic on /vt/, I've posted about it before, and I'll probably do so again in the future, fucking timeloop shit, but I've always seen this normie - unicorn divide as a consequence of Vtubers being a convergence of two vastly different fanbases - Streaming culture and Anime otaku. Back in '19, when this was all taking off, I was confident that the rise of virtual youtubers would be a meeting of fantasy and reality, and bring the two fanbases together as they realized what they had in common. Instead, its become a battleground for tribal retards who all have different expectations for vtubers. Vtubers are either anime girls made tangible, a form of high-level character acting, like meeting Mickey Mouse at Disneyland, or they are streamers who have been liberated from the standards of attractiveness and risks of doxxing that twitch culture has created. I used to think these two can be reconciled, not anymore.

Nasu puts this first point better than I ever could, vtubers represent the ultimate fantasy fulfillment, you can literally meet an anime girl in real time! You know how awful it feels to finish a season of CGDCT anime, and it feels like a part of your heart is ripped out as you wait for the next season? Now you can see her every Wednesday and send her money so she thanks you in real time. It's an extension of idol culture, in a way, in the same way that idol culture is also character acting - Look at Momokuro. And yes, frankly, it would make me uncomfortable for a bunch of men to show up in K-ON and start bantering with the girls. Even if I didn't want to fuck them, it would make me feel isolated, alienated, and on some primal level, a bit jealous. And just like rabid anime otaku, Unicorns take this to an extreme. I don't think it's their egos being fragile - okay, not JUST their egos being fragile, the constant fixation on being "cucked" definitely speaks to some insecurity there - but also, like, a desire to preserve this fantasy world. That's where normies don't give them enough credit, Unicorns aren't being petty, because their standards for vtubers is that of an anime girl, not a real woman. And their purpose is nearly fanatical, they style themselves the defenders of the 2D world from the IRL evils of "whoredom" and to them, their anger is justified because they're also the most willing to fund these anime girls.

On the other hand, the normie fanbase approaches vtubers the same way they would, say, Jerma or Dr. Disrespect. Their characters are played up a little, but for the most part, normies recognize these are real people and their reactions as genuine. They're alright with male collabs and even IRL relationships because, like, what the fuck, that's basic human decency. The girls are people, on and off-stream, there's no expectations that they preserve the fantasy at all times, and in fact some of the most fun comes from when the identity is malleable and the fantasy breaks. Think, say, Bao and Vienna's April Fools jokes, or Veibae and Finana talking about sex. The further you stray from kayfabe and the character acting, the more you can lean into interesting, personal stories, and use your identity as a toy that you can experiment with. Indeed, even the biggest unicorns appreciate this sorta thing, think Ame and all her wacky antics.

The tension comes usually when what the fanbase wants and expects is incongruous with the vtuber themselves. Mostly with Hololive, because Hololive's built them up as the ultimate fantasy vtuber company. So when you get someone like Mori, who wants to be more like the latter, fans get fucking mad as all hell, because she's not just liable for herself - she's bringing the whole image of Hololive down. Honestly, I don't know if there's a solution to all this nonsense. What we might see - what we're already seeing - is a splintering of the fanbase into Hololive vs everyone else, but even within Holo there's unicorns vs normies all day just because of how big Holo is.

>> No.22524031

>>22523829
The answer is simple: Chase off the twitchniggers.

>> No.22524253

>>22523829
>So when you get someone like Mori, who wants to be more like the latter, fans get fucking mad as all hell, because she's not just liable for herself - she's bringing the whole image of Hololive down. Honestly, I don't know if there's a solution to all this nonsense
Transfer Mori to Holostars, boom, problem solved. Can't drag Hololive down when you're not Hololive, and she'll be helping Holostars too.

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>>22523727
What's stopping you?

>> No.22524398

>>22505561
normalfags and ESPECIALLY twitter found the hobby. As it began in japan it had a "toxic" male-centered culture that had to be corrected. Your job now is to send the vtuber money and don't complain, ever. They can do what they want and you owe them your money like a dog.

>> No.22524420

>>22523829
>Normie vs Unicorn
This is why we hate you. Some of us were here before 2020. It comes back to this >>22522370 you retards actively antagonize everyone else and you wonder why people don't like you, numbnuts

>> No.22524662

>>22523829
The only fucking solution here is what NoriPro did. Separate the variety-conyent chuubas from GFE-content chuubas. That way you know what to expect and there will be no hard feelings

>> No.22524665

>>22523829
Yeah that's bullshit though. Unicorns have shown time and time again that they not only care about the "purity" of the character, but also the Roommate must remain pure.
Who gives a shit whether Yui's seiju is a nympho, that doesn't make the fictional character one. And yet Unicorns show time and time again that they are not willing to separate the character from the human.

>> No.22524792

>>22523727
You sound fragile.

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>> No.22525002

>>22524420
I honestly can't tell if you think I'm a unicorn or a normie.

>>22524031
See, this air of nativism is also something I rather dislike about unicorns. I've been around since literally before Hololive existed, I got my start in vtubers watching Kemofure MADs on Nico and then finding out that Siro is cute. I would argue that in the early days of livers, when Nijisanji was pioneering the concept, the culture was much more "Twitch" than it is anime, like now. The pivot of virtual streamers into heavy character acting is something I would pin on the emergence of Hololive, actually, and even in that case it was rather gradual. Instead of vtuber culture growing out of anime culture, I'd argue it's more like, anime culture was grafted on over time, and eventually became the most dominant branch. Or you could call it a tumor, if you're anti-unicorn.

>>22524662
I'm actually rather a fan of this. I think having clear stipulations and clearly defined boundaries is a REALLY good thing, both for vtubers and fans, because it lets everyone know how far they can go. But it's impossible to consider this for bigger companies, the fucking backlash would be ridiculous, make Coco look tiny in comparison. Also, I'm pretty sure Noripro is lowkey breaking Japanese labor laws but no one cares because it's like 3 people.

>>22524665
I would've talked about that more in-depth if not for character limit, but I do agree. I think that's a particularly toxic part of the fandom, but it's also natural and a part of almost all Japanese fandoms. Remember Kanata and Gaki?

>> No.22525066

>>22523829
An actually good post in this thread

>> No.22525120

>>22523727
>comes on 4chan
>sees people disagreeing with them
>gets mad
Kek

>> No.22525128

>>22520558
>People insisting that I MUST shackle myself to a woman for the rest of my life
Are you Indonesian or something? Just tell them to fuck off.
>You've singlehandedly solved the Ukraine war and broken up every child sex slave ring in Hollywood? How come the news didn't report on it?
Those are not my problems though. I help when I can, also, confronting doesn't mean solving, there are problems that can't be solved.

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>> No.22525312

tired, oh so tired
i like women not men
i dont like seeing women i find attractive talking or being with other men because thats the natural reaction called jealousy
that jealousy extends even further with women you cant interact with (vtubers) while men they mention can
i dont like the third wheel experience, i dont like the cuck experience
Is this THAT hard to understand?

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>> No.22525855

>>22511030
Nobody cares for your retarded takes go watch Marvel cartoons kek

>> No.22526375

>>22523829
>Veibae and Finana talking about sex
Veibae is actually a whore, Finana is a pretend whore and most likely a virgin.

>> No.22526401

I don't get what's wrong with unicorns. Homo here and while I don't voice it anywhere if a male streamer I watch repeatedly mentions or collabs with women I simply stop watching. Its not sexism, its having standards for streamers that differ from the norm.

>> No.22526443

>>22525312
>My "natural reaction" is the universal experience
Sounds like you have autism anon

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>> No.22526548

>>22526401
>I simply stop watching
You aren't the problem, it's the schizo ones who necessitate the unicide

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>> No.22528509

>>22525312
Don't worry, I got you, it's not that hard to understand that you need to seek professional help. Seriously.

Parasocial relationship is normal but if it's happen to an extend where you feel jealous and having the urge to dictate the girls only to full fill your fantasy is peak mental illness. You have no rights to do so.

And no you are not experiencing being a thirdwheel or getting cucked here, because that's all only happened in your head, your oshi never been yours in the first place

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>> No.22528815

Being unicorn for one or two chubba is fine but if you're pushing your unicorn antics to every chubba then you need to see a therapist

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>>22528617
>>22526651
>>22525576
>>22526482
>>22525153
>>22524861
>>22524342
I support your mission, loli spam anon. Do your best terrorizing them.

>> No.22529267

>>22505561
I mean, anyone who is on here are a degenerate, normal fag or not
Truth is that its peak degenerate behavior to spend your time shitting on whatever group you think are the justified lesser worth citizens of your hobby, just watch cute girls play games bruh

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>> No.22529519

>>22523829
>Unicorns aren't being petty, because their standards for vtubers is that of an anime girl, not a real woman. And their purpose is nearly fanatical, they style themselves the defenders of the 2D world from the IRL evils of "whoredom"
That's the thing, anime as a whole never shyed away for male and female interactions or banter. Yes there are CGDCT anime that don't have any males in them (though there are some that do ocassionally, think about something like Lucky Star or Blend S if you consider that CGDCT), but a lot of anime that are clearly targeted to actual otakus, not just teenagers who sometimes watch anime, do and that doesn't make them "less anime", think about stuff like Popotan, Kyouran Kazku Nikki, Minami-ke r anything from the mid-2000s when Denpa and Moe became more relevant, let alone Eroge adaptations, those always have the MC, his harem and the male Best friend for comedic purposes, shit, even actual dating sims often have male characters that interact with the girls. On the other hand there are several All Female animes that normalfags love, like Love Live, Gabriel Dropout, etc. So yeah, I watch vtubers expecting the anime girl experience and not just twitch streamers, but that doesn't NECESSARILY mean that I'm gonna get mad when she talks to a male, it really depends on what's expected of said anime girl.
>On the other hand, the normie fanbase
That's the other thing. What exactly does "normie" mean in this case?, Is everyone who doesn't care if their oshi collabs with a male a normalfag bandwagoner?, That's seems rather new to me considering how vtubers were in the beggining, Siro and Baacharu or Game-bu for example. Not every chuuba is GFE and I don't really see watching non GFE vtubers as a sign of normalfaggotry like a lot of unicorns seem to think when they accuse anyone who's not one of them of being a normie that's hijacking their hobby.
Again, I don't hate unicorns for being unicorns, sometimes I understand them, I just hate that they're so fucking aggresive against the wrong people and/or for the wrong reasons. Shit on reddit fags trying to cancel fucking La Plus, not on people watching fucking Nijisanji

>> No.22529711

>>22526401
What you did is not wrong and simply stop watching like that won't make you a "unicorn"

The problem and the wrong things are these unicorns were not only stop watching. They will invite other people to stop watching that vtuber too, mocking other people who still watching that vtuber as a cuck when those unicorns never own their fav vtuber anyway, whining and call the vtuber whore, spreading hate here and there, and so on.

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>> No.22530187

>>22530095
stop it lolispammer! this is too much for any of us to handle

>> No.22530611

>>22505977
>I'm not a cowardly loser that can't handle the real world.
You wouldn't be here if you weren't

>> No.22530696

>>22512335
kys you pathetic bugman cuck. Women are subhuman

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>> No.22530828

>>22530762
Fuck off chumpedo

>> No.22530911

>>22525312
Based and true
Fuck these normalfags arguing otherwise. They don't actually care they just want to argue.

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>>22528509
>You have no rights to do so.
Fuck you, enabling cunt. These women know EXACTLY what they're doing and deserve to be held to account

>> No.22531140

>>22523829
The solution is simple, graduate Mori. Get this parasite out of hololive because she never ever cared for it to begin with. It's all lies from her. Whatever keeps the money flowing.

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>> No.22531327

Why do they think spamming loli images will kill the thread? You know you're just bumping it right? Even if saging people will still see it by sorting catalog by last reply. More people will see. They're not very smart are they

>> No.22531400

>>22531327
wow, anon, you're so fucking smart. tell us more please

>> No.22532009

>>22531044
No one deserve to be held by ugly, parasocial extremist, and mentally ill unicorns.

Yes, they know what they're doing, it's a general secret if pandering to GFE and fansirvice shits will sell really well in the market. The unicorns know that very well too, but they just choose to be denial and being an entitled schizo while putting a high delusion to control their favorite vtubers just because they DONATE some bucks.

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>> No.22532361

>>22505561
holy fucking meds. your skull should collab with a 9mm bullet.

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>> No.22532480

>>22532361
How about I smash your nigger brain in?

>> No.22532534

>>22505977
you watch anime girls instead of ethots. you're in denial.

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>> No.22532760

>>22532480
you mad, amerimutt?

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>>22505561

>> No.22533341

>>22532009
>No one deserve to be held by ugly, parasocial extremist, and mentally ill unicorns
The girls who pander to these kind of people do. And the purityfags have every right to turn on them when things get ugly because the girls led them on, deceived them, and took their money. It's not like they don't have a choice or anything like that, if they don't want anything to do with purityfags then they could've said that or get rid of them indirectly by publicly interacting with men.

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>> No.22534379

>>22533341
"The girls led them on, deceived them, and took their money" Deceived? Those unicorns are grown up adults, they know what kind of stuff they're into is one of the marketing strategy, no one getting deceived when they're the ones who choose to be denial over the fact that they will never be their oshi's boyfirend/husband.

And no, those vtubers never took anyone's money, tge unicorns are fully conscious 'Donating' to them, and by donating it means no one should demand anything in return.

"They could've said that or get rid of them indirectly by publicly interacting with men" well guess what? There are a lot of female vtuber who doesn't pander to GFE shits, collabing with males a lot, and openly said they have a bf irl. But they still get called a "whore" by degenarate unicorns.

It's basically a lose/lose situation for female vtubers no matter what, unless these unicorns actually going to seek professional help so their unrealistic entitlement and mental illness can heal for the better.

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>> No.22535473

>>22533341
i dont know why you think those men are being “led on”. those women they donate to dont owe them anything, if you think otherwise then your perception of reality is extremely unfortunate

>> No.22535530

>woman leading man on good!
>men being led on bad!
huff drywall

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>> No.22535649

>>22506499
This is the only actual answer. Unicorns are no different than your average worse taiwan-er in terms of being a powderkeg in a blast furnace.

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>>22530911
4chan is a place in which people will argue about anything. It has nothing to do with normalfags.

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I don't have Gura pics, but I have pink haired green woman. Is that fine?

>> No.22537951

>>22511439
Could I rent you for tonight? I want to watch a movie with my friends but my projector broke.

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>>22505977
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>>22535473
https://files.catbox.moe/nlhr6o.mp3

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>>22520960
This is weird to me because I don't really consider myself a consumer, I consider myself a fan, so if, for example, Nene revelead she had a boyfriend I wouldn't feel scammed, I would feel sad. Now I know that people here just see the time they spend with the girls as a service and nothing more meaningful than that, you don't care about her doing her best and improving over time nor do you treasure your time with them, for you it's just some lip service you pay for to make you feel good, you'll never know how it feels to cry with your oshi or genuinely feel good for her.

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>> No.22538482

>>22505561
>now
It has always been like this, unicuck. You are either a newfag or is trying to rewrite reality.

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who cares

>> No.22538529

In the end of the day, anyone who's actively out to make my oshi miserable needs to be put into the incinerator.

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>> No.22538760

>>22538529
Why would you oshi somebody who panders to unicorns

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>> No.22538839

>>22535649
You say that and yet literally the only part of her audience Rushia kept was her gachikoi that don't want male collabs
They're the ones bankrolling her

>> No.22538946

sure are a lot of fucking cucks around here....

>> No.22542476

>>22538760
That's the thing, she doesn't pander to them but they still impose their garbage on her. They are just mentally deranged enough to assume that their ideals are the norm when in reality it's nothing but their mental illness taking form.
Burn them or hang them or just get permanently rid of them somehow else, they are simply a fucking blight.

>> No.22542759

Look I get that Banagher's a bit of a controversial protagonist but come on Unicorn's got some damn good fights and is pretty much MSV porn and got the first time of us actually getting Sentinel and Hathaway stuff on screen, and this was YEARS before they even considered to do the Hathaway's Flash project!

>> No.22542774

>>22505561
Either you're a unicorn and you're obsessed with the idea of cuckoldry and get unreasonably angry over trivial shit or you're a streamertard and you're a proud simp and you just learned what parasocial means and are in denial about it applying to you in some way.
Streamer culture is the new Hollywood and celebrities, vtuber culture is the new idols and pop singers, and the fanbase of both are the new faggots who scour through tabloids and gossip about everything they do. Just shut this shit down. They're not your girlfriend. They're not your friend. They're not your "bro". They don't like you. They don't even know you.

>> No.22542804

>>22510322
Post links faggot

>> No.22544502

For real tho, you guys could have at least post someone else beside Gura
Like, where are all the JP?

>> No.22545846

>>22510322
source?

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>> No.22552178

Unicorns are based

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>>22505561
Consider hanging yourself. wuv me sum wamy.

>> No.22554680

>>22521547
bro if ur girlfriend is likely to sleep with another dude from minimal interaction then you're not a boyfriend, you're a wallet
huh wait a second this sounds familiar...

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