/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that "collabs" ruined LazuSydia?

[Anonymous No.]

>"bro just watch niji its not that bad"
>literally have every member collab at once randomly on any stream
might as well just watch a normal twitch streamer at that point

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There was nothing good to ruin to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes, love Rosemi and Pomu but for fucks sake they collab so much I can never watch them

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else listen to Diamond City Lights and Blackout just to remember the good ol' days of NijiEN before it turned into a male branch?

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>>22119346
I like a couple of Niji EN girls but stopped watching them since pretty much every stream is a collab now.

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>>22119436
It's not just that. It's the fact that they act just like every other generic Twitch streamer too. It's why I couldn't get into them because it wasn't any different. The constant collabs just make it even worse.

[Anonymous No.]

Incredible that people are still pushing this narrative when the majority of Elira, Finana, Rosemi and Pomu streams are solo and when you click on the streams that say they're going to be solo, none of the fags join the call.

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>>22119575
I legit thought they were going to settle down after Obsydia, I used to watch everyones streams and since they avoided overlaps back then there was frequently streams to watch. I only watch Selen and sometimes Rosemi nowadays... Those lazusydia days were great and we will never get them back...

[Anonymous No.]

>It's another "people who don't watch nijien come together to roleplay as tired fans"
Weird obsession but go on

[Anonymous No.]

nostalgia is fake and you shouldnt that way about the past retards

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>>22119436
>>22119789
I used to like Rosemi, but now watching her streams means watching everyone's streams at the same time so I dropped her

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>>22119436
NijiEn is just bootleg OfflineTV now.

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>>22119796
And we had a Lazulight + Rosemi colab two days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

They're trying to imitate how China is basically an ant colony where there's no privacy due to the sheer amount of people squeezed into one nation

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>>22119346
>can we agree that "collabs" ruined LazuSydia?
Anon, I wouldn't be saying that out loud. You're gonna trigger the nijinigs.

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>>22120217
This, why you brownies keep making threads about rivaling vtubers you don't watch, it's like and obsession or something.

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>>22120217
Its the f*jos, whenever lazusydia is mentioned they always start pointing fingers about some /loe/ schizo. they genuinely believe luxiem is where the heart of nijien is

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Okay motherfucker where is this dust coming from and why don't you clean that dust before it settles down? Why are you always waiting for that dust to settle?

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>>22120185
>china out of nowhere
and then you guys go "rent free" when we call you holobronies

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>>22120340
My room's conditions are not your business, schizo.

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>>22119346
Yeah, Rosemi is only good solo. Her collabs are awful.

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>>22120217
>don't say dumb shit you're going to trigger the people who actually watch the streams

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>>22119436
I don't understand what you think the difference is

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>>22119436
>>22119789
This. Yelling twitch memes (POOOOOG) and ligma variants all the time isn't humorous at all, maybe if you're a fujo chink or a kid straight out of highschool that is comedy gold though. I pray to God StarsEN actually has some dudes that are comedically on point and not whatever this shit is.

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>>22120373
>NOOO DON'T CALL OUT MY NATIONALITY

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>>22119796
Elira probably does the most solo streams in NijiEN, it's great being able to have collabs but also get a lot of comfy solo stuff.

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>>22119346
https://youtu.be/bhkfm1dX7BM

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>>22119789
Bruh no cap you ain't vibin with the POG? Kinda sus G

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>>22119789
that’s en vtubers in general, cancer of the industry

[Anonymous No.]

>too many collabs
>females' fanbase clashing with males' fanbase
>too many gens introduced too quickly; little group cohesion
>management too laissez faire, leading some of them to go down the vshojo route

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>>22119436
well yeah
i mostly watch nijijp but if i for some reason wanted to watch enwhores i'd watch a western company or just go on twitch

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>>22119849
It's really weird, I don't understand how people can spend their lives doing this shit

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LOOK BUDDY I DON'T WATCH NIJISANJI BUT THEY MUST STOP BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT!1!

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>>22121043
theres quite a few that are genuinely good, just dont look at the twitch faggots.

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>>22119436
Exactly.
NijiEN is just Twitch but with anime instead of face cam.
I guess there's an audience for it but it sure isn't me.

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>>22121182
They don't even try to hide it, literally more holo images in this thread, people using terms like nijinigs, obsessing over chinese people and so on. Are they really that afraid of NijiEN that they need to come up with retarded anti narratives and falseflag as fans or is this just what you do when you need to find something else to fill your time because your streamers hate their fanbase so much they barely even stream?

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>>22119849
>>22121179

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>>22121368
Well, Cover's business model is based on a monopoly, and niji is still their biggest rival.

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>>22119796
Why watch streams when I can read shitposting threads?

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>>22121017
bruh you is buggin bro for real for real on god

[Anonymous No.]

According to my data nijien is declining and will go bankrupt in 4 months

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>>22119346
>now that the dust has settled
I’m glad there’s a report option for extremely low quality, not that I would ever use it.

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>>22119816
I thought they were gonna settle down after Ethyria, not as comfy as the LazuSydia days but was still tolerable. We will never get a golden age of EN again, really sad.

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>>22121781
Obsidya was a huge success, why would they settle after that, then the next wave was bad, of course they would switch to males.

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>>22119796
>>22119849
>>22121182
>>22121368
No true scotsman

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>>22121717
The branch made the most money it ever has in superchat in March.

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I am honestly just kinda disappointed how pomu finana and elira are treated - they are literally the reason why the others exist and yet Elira is mostly getting ignored, Finana called stupid and Pomu disrespected.
And yeah, i do watch nijisanji. Males are not the issue, the lack of structure is.

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>>22121717
Yeah. Unlikely. While it has utterly demolished the culture of the EN branch, the males are raking in a lot of cash.
>>22121915
I wouldn't be surprised if it's legit one or two schizos.

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>>22119436
Normal twitch streamers dont even crossover as much as nijien does.

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>>22121717
NijiEN superchat
06/21 - $58,342
07/21 - $57,735
08/21 - $81,962
09/21 - $78,406
10/21 - $121,372
11/21 - $134,779
12/21 - $200,237
01/22 - $363,384
02/22 - $393,252
03/22 - $553,902

This doesn't look like a declining branch to me.

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>>22122157
Don't upset the brownies, they will start a chimpout again.

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>>22122115
>the people calling out nijien bait thread #368 are the schizos
Whatever, go on with the circlejerk

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>>22122268
Will do, anti.

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>>22121981
this

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>>22120076
can you explain this comparison

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>>22121043
The whole hobby as a whole has been trending between becoming painfully corporate on one end (fucking label deals, million dollar merch runs, chats so fast even the girls who still care can't treat it as more than an ATM) and wild sex-sells-and-scandal-sells-more reality TV on the other. You can see it play out in the community as well - /vt/ is mostly numberfags on one end and people discussing the daily lives of rich streamers on the other.

NijiEN is in a really, really weird spot somewhere on the scale, where they've adopted the Twitch-style model while being part of a JP company that's overall just as or more corporate than Hololive.

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>>22122615
>they've adopted the Twitch-style model while being part of a JP company that's overall just as or more corporate than Hololive.
I don't necessarily agree with your bleak outlook, anon, but I think you hit the nail on the head there, and I think this is part of the reason why the Niji fanbase seems to be splitting apart at the moment (which is showing on /vt/ as well with the split of the generals) between those who like the corporate side and those who like the Twitch side.

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>>22122319
>anti
Go back. Who are they anti-ing here? The anons?

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>>22122157
Now list the expenses. 500k just for condoms for hotel offcollabs in the last quarter

[Anonymous No.]

Men saved NIJI EN and I'm tired of pretending they didn't

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>>22123014
At least nijis don't stop streaming because they got pregnant.

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>>22123491
They're doing a lot better overall with them thats true for sure but they didn't need saving from shit. The branch was already the most successful overseas thing Nijisanji had ever done and the girls were making plenty enough money to justify their continued existence considering they beat out most of the JP girls.

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>>22119849
>Everyone has to think and feel the same way I do
Sorry fag but we have free will

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>>22121981
How is Elira ignored? And I thought she didn't want to be treated like some big senpai?

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>>22120740
>StarsEN

nobody would watch them anyway, holo left china thank you God and Coco for that or we would have the same situation eventually... just more awkward

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>>22122524
anyone?

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>>22122615
how is "chat too fast" a corporate thing? That's just popularity issue. Merch doesn't really affect the streams much either aside from some occasional shilling that's btw much less intrusive than 5 minute raid the shadow legends ad reads that half of youtubers do. If not for the corporate side this chuubas would only do regular streaming without concerts and whatever other events and special projects they do, indies are very limited in the end of the day unless they really want to talk about shit like politics or perhaps review stuff like games when you have to ask the company for permission to even stream it etc.

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>>22124115
People not making a big deal out of it and people straight up ignoring she exists sometimes are 2 different things.
I get it, she doesn't want to be worshiped, but sometimes it feels people don't even want to mention or talk to her.

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>>22119436
Before
>I want to get into Niji, which one do I watch? There's too many!
>Just choose whichever one appeals to you, you don't have to watch them all.
Today
>You will watch them all. You cannot complain about that or you're a woman hating, gay hating, bigoted chud
Nijis explain yourselves.

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>>22125552
Show me the nijis saying that.

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>>22125759
It was said fucking constantly on this board before the dudes came out, they'd mostly say it about the jps at that time due to there being fewer ens at the time though.

[Anonymous No.]

>Seanig wake up earlier eating their breakfast for fasting
I know some of you eating for fasting today but being schizo make your fasting invalid.

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>>22125877
I meant the second one, the today part, you goalpost mover.

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>>22119346
>niji stars inclining by doing collabs with the biggest names on twitch
>numberfags start to seethe
Poetic.

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>>22122524
>>22124707
Nta, but offlineTV is a popular streamer group on twitch including people like scarra, lilypichu and pokimane. My guess would be that niji EN has a similar vibe going on, not even because they're a mixed group per se, but more so due to their mannerisms (zoomer humor, using twitch lingo) and the dynamic of the group itself. In fact they've already had multiple collabs going on between both groups too, and therefore probably some sort of crossover in their fanbase too.

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>>22125884
This is genuinely a sick Ramadan own anon, but why do all SEA on this board think the best insult in the world is to call other people their own ethnicity?

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>>22126068
>zoomer humor
Ah yes, as opposing to the high class, certified old english humor of hololive. Also, a big POG to you fellow deadbeat!

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>>22125988
Any of the posts in the past month about how the guys invade the streams all the time have those. "incel" or "unicorn" is usually the go-to for them, the archives are full of that shit. Hell, there'll probably be another post sometimes today made about it if the jannies don't delete it on sight.

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>>22126288
Today, you retard, today. see >>22125552
>Today
>>You will watch them all. You cannot complain about that or you're a woman hating, gay hating, bigoted chud
>Nijis explain yourselves.

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>>22126349
>taking the word today that literally
Perhaps I should have used a "before" and "now" or "after" comparison, but then you'd probably just claim no one said it that exact moment.

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>>22126446
>make some shit up nobody ever says
>complain when it gets pointed out

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>>22126487
I literally just said "check the archives" newfag, your response to that was "nuh-uh no on said it TODAY though!". You'll need some better bait if you want anymore (you)s today.

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>>22126446
Dude, you are keep saying "now" and "today", then claiming it was months ago when it happened. Are you genuinely retarded?

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>>22126560
Never seen anyone call someone "a woman hating, gay hating, bigoted chud" for not liking male collabs. Unicorn or incel sure but those aren't the same things at all.

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>>22119575
fucking soul
they should never have added more

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>>22126279
Living in SEA is divine punishment anon so Their best way to insult is to brand them as such. (Also inferiority complex run deep in their veins)

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>>22126281
Who said holo EN is great at humor

>a big POG to you fellow deadbeat
rent free

[Anonymous No.]

>>22127055
>rent free
Touché!

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>>22121053
A C C E L
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>>22126627
Just a matter of time. Picrel.
>>22125093
Neck yourself, anti.

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>>22119346
I dunno, I've watched plenty of Elira/Pomu streams lately and there hasn't been any random collab shit at all in them outside obvious shit like minecraft and Finana has ACTUALLY been streaming something other than genshin/honkai/yakuza. It was really bad when the makes first debuted but they settled down and do their own thing now.
I'd say current lazulight is doing better than lazulight 3~ months ago for watching.

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>>22119789
>It's the fact that they act just like every other generic Twitch streamer too.
This is my main gripe with Nijisanji, why bother becoming a vtuber if you are just going to act like a normalfaggot streamer? Twitch is right around the corner.
Same for some of the HoloENs they don't even bother playing a character anymore

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>>22127534
>Same for some of the HoloENs they don't even bother playing a character anymore
Honestly my biggest fear for HoloEN.

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>>22127534
>>22127715
Did you just wake up or what? Vtubing was just hiding behind an avatar and using a fake voice, otherwise just being themselves while streaming activities they could do acceptably. It was like that since Kizuna spawned the companies copying her.

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>>22121915
That's not how NTS works

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>>22126715
It didn't used to be so bad there before Islam and communism

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>>22127802
>and using a fake voice
Everyone would spot most of the EN's voices in public

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>>22128156
They still use a different tone, even if it's close to their real voice.

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Every day there's 10 threads like this where you fags larp as concerned former NijiEN fans and make up imaginary it-came-to-me-in-a-dream tier problems like every single stream from every liver being a collab. Is this really that fun?

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>>22128729
Meds

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>>22119346
yea pretty much

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>>22119977
I think the problem is that Rosemi is way less fun to watch during those collabs. She's always going to get drowned out by the shouting and the best she gets are when they're singing along to the great Rosemi-sama.

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>>22119346
yeah, fuck the managers. I unsubbed to all. oh well.

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>>22121440
>Well, Cover's business model is based on a monopoly, and niji is still their biggest rival.
How can it be based on a monopoly when Niji was bigger till like, Gen 4 of Holo?

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>>22126689
>soul
>corporate vtuber
>corporate songs
about as much as I expect from a nijinigger or a cuckbeat desu senpai
blackout is unironically too heavy on the instrumentals to a point I barely hear the lyrics, and thats the point because they do not have the vocal experience yet so they have to drown out their bad singing with loud instruments.

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>>22119849
>>22128729
any unironic "tired former fans" aren't even real nijisanji fans in the first place if they weren't watching knowing that male waves/collabs were coming

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>>22128729
fuck you, the faggoronies ruined Nijisanji™, threads unbearable to thread like it came from s4s

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>>22132798
Eslchama...

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>>22122157
You know that only a small amount is that came from the girls and they're the ones people are talking about. HoloEN almost gets that kind of numbers too despite streaming less and turning off superchats half of the time.

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>>22119796
I stopped clicking on the streams a long time ago because they kept turning into collabs with people I do not like.

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>>22129852
I knew male waves were coming, but I thought they might be more like NijiJP. More fool me.

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>>22127312
>tells anon to check archive
>claims people are proving his claim
>nothing in the archive proves shit
>proceeds to pull reddit shit
Oof...