/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Social media branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG
Take with a grain of salt Parasocial Guide : https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Hololive Auditions have opened up to males
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Stay grounded, stay hopeful

Previous Thread: >>22039837

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Tried skewing the image this time, but the edge of the screen was slightly curved, so it's not ideal.

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>>22095688
Keep up your photoshop reps and you will improve eventually.

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>>22096124
Oof

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The holostars males are going to be enby (feminine) vsingers arent they

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Question about being a vtuber. Do you have to forsake your entire IRL identity? Irl friends? Online friends? Family? Do you have to hide your face so no one can ever see it? I have an insta with selfies of mine and I'd hate to like, just abandon it...

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>>22096197
There's literally no precedent for it, stop doomposting

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>>22096431
It happened to half of the new niji males though

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>>22096337
You dont need to but then you will be doxxed and your virtual identity will be linked to your actual identity. Just dont interact with your actual self as a vtber

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>>22096337
A much easier thing to do would be to use a new handle for your chuuba self.

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>>22096491
So out of 10 males, there's....two. Three at best. Yeah, wild precedent man.

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>>22096337
Depends. Do you plan to do things which might end in stalkers trying to ruin your life, like being a VTuber?

I know many 2view friends who never bothered forsaking their entire IRL identity, it's absolutely not a requirement. But people online can get really shitty, so you need to be prepared for that.

However, many in the VTuber fandom don't like being aware of what the chuuba looks like in real life, and especially don't like the two being mixed.

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Nyaa~

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>>22096337
Did you get into a corpo?
If the answer is no, then you don't have to pretend like you're in one, and you can just do what you want.
At the minimum start a new account just to pretend there's a separation between you and the character and you're golden.

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>>22096337
Do you want your boss and coworkers to know you're talking degenerate shit about 2d girls online?

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I still can't find an artist to create a model for me. I give up. I'm going to spend the next 6 years learning how to draw and make my own. Surely people will still care about vtubers by then, r-right?

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>>22097491
Ugh, get a PNGtuber for twenty bucks and just go. Or make an ironically shitty looking model.

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>>22097491
what do you mean you cant, theres so many artists out there you can commission, or I can do it if youre willing to wait

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A big vtuber friend wants to support me in becoming a vtuber, thinks I have a nice voice and singing and is recommending me a character designer for cheap to help concept out my vtuber character as well as make a PNG for me to start out.
Should I take up their offer in paying someone to do some cheap quality character concept art?

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>>22097792
Try it, you won't lose anything even you end up not interested.

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>>22097491
I currently stream with 2 pngs slapped together awkwardly, you don't need a model to create content fren

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I had this evening and morning to think about it.
The problem is (likely) that the initial art is just too focused on trying to get lines exact and was too focused on individual areas (literally, zoomed in all the way 90% of the time, blame my vision issues) that it all looks really weird now.
>Will I redraw?
Yes, but I think I’ll redraw for a model sheet rather than specifically live2D for now.
>Will I redesign?
No, other than small details and fleshing out rouged-out areas from earlier + take into consideration what I can remember from previous critiques/suggestions.

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>>22097491
You arent looking hard enough, or just impatient
If the latter, its your fault for waiting so long

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>>22098129
Yeah the zoom in thing can distort your piece. I usually hear other artists recommend having the piece zoomed out, so you can see the whole picture when you're drawing. I wish you luck!

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>>22097792
just look at their art and decide for yourself if you like it or not, whether you like it is whats most important

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>>22098586
Oh yeah I like their art, my apprehension is because I dont know what I want my character to be? I never thought about being a vtuber and having to think up a concept and design seems quite daunting me. I really dont know where to begin at all to be honest.

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Can't do anything for myself this week end so I'm sending all my make it energy your way my frens.
You will have a good week end.

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>>22098665
maybe you can talk with the artist to get some ideas, artists usually have a better understanding of what designs work better and might give good suggestions

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Heh, so that age restricted video I uploaded yesterday got taken down. If I'm able to make the video safe enough that it doesn't get initially flagged as age restricted, would it also be safe enough to not get taken down? Does anyone have experience with non-age restricted stuff getting removed for violating community guidelines?

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>>22099007
i can only imagine it would be anything with music that's copyrighted, but no I don't know of anything else.

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Big thanks to the emulator anon, who recommended me duckstation, not only is that application intuitive and no-nonsense, it has everything i could ever want for PSX emulation and it looks amazing too. And it allowed me to use my memory cards from epsxe so i can continue my Legend of Dragoon playthrough with better resolution too. Being able to change settings without restarting the emulator is so good too.

This really brightened my day, if i wasn't a babi i'd give you a big kiss.

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Babis run this fucking thread!

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>>22100504
Not them but they steered you right. It's the best PSX emulator I've ever used, too. It's no longer being actively developed but there's really nothing to be lost by that; it works perfectly with practically every game. The vertex stabilization feature is especially impressive even though I don't use it too often.
The DuckStation dev is working on PCSX2 now from what I hear, so PS2 emulation is probably going to be much, much better in the near future if that's something you're also interested in.

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>>22100504
Look, I don't mind babi, if you want to give me a big kiss I'll take it.

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>>22102044
That's gay dude!

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>>22102074
And?

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>>22100504
> And it allowed me to use my memory cards from epsxe
ok you convinced me, gonna say goodbye to epsxe

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Phone sketches are fu, btw.

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>>22102271
Fun*

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>>22102122
An exclamation point can indicate general excitement
>>22102190
It's just straight up better. The memory card manager is even better. The post processing effects are good, you can run stuff at high resolutions, vertex correction like I mentioned earlier... it can make 3D games for the console look like PC games with very minimal tweaking if you're into that sort of thing

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>>22102320
nice, what settings do you use? i try not to tweak stuff because I have no idea what I am doing

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>>22102044
i'll do my best.

>>22102190
>>22102361
Here's what i have for mem card options: https://i.imgur.com/qzXGJYF.png

epsxe memory card is also a regular shared one if i recall correctly, and i just copy pasted the files in there. worked without a hitch.

For all the other settings just play around with it, you can literally run the game, and change display settings in real time, it's so fast to just check out all the settings and pick what suits you best. I definitely recommend playing around with it, because everyone has their preferences and it depends on game too!

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>>22102361
I tend to just play without any enhancements because I have a lot of nostalgia for the PlayStation and generally prefer to play stuff the way it originally looked. Especially for stuff like Resident Evil and the Final Fantasy games where you've got polygons moving around on pre-rendered backgrounds; I find the high res models against the low res backgrounds a little jarring for my tastes.
When I do tweak stuff though, pretty much everything I care to change is on the Enhancements tab. You can change the internal resolution up top for higher resolution polygons and mess with the PGXP settings at the bottom to get rid of that signature wobbliness that every 3D game on the console has going on. You can even force widescreen and progressive scan for stuff.

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>>22102496
>>22102746
thanks frens! i am still learning about how to make emulated games look nice, so this comes in very handy

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I came here to tell you retroarc is garbage.
Always use individual system emulators.

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>>22097792
Do you even need to ask?

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Anon, please give me clear goals as an artist as I can't think of them myself. If I'm capable, is it enough to just churn out high quality fan art and Live2D models while leaving a work email for people that are interested? Is that enough? Will it all just come to me if I can git gud?

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>>22106418
People love to window shop. Make a carrd or something and have your prices and portfolio easily accessible on it

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>>22104932
Preach. Retroarch fucking sucks

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Retroarch hate

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playing deus ex in 5 minutes
https://twitter.com/ricecakevs

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b

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ig titties

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>>22106418
network

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I’m not sure why I drew this
Nor do I known why my proportions and style when drawing goes to… that.
????

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>>22113316
…And why did I spoiler that?

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how do I stop laughing so much on streams? It's annoying me when I rewatch them, bros

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>>22113371
and why are being such a faggot right now?

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>>22113650
>how do I stop having a genuine reaction while streaming
Why would you ever want to stop this?

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>>22095657
Hope every aspie has a great weekend! Whether or not you streamed, just do your very best!
>>22113650
Laughing a lot is cute, embrace it :D

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>>22113650
Laughter's great, especially if you completely lose it

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>>22109476
thanks to anyone that came! I was a little tired, but I think I did okay. Still getting used to everything since it was my second stream, I should probably get some cards with ideas on what to talk about during a stream or something, but I feel like I did alright with preventing dead air at least.

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I hired an artist for a character sheet and provided a mood board. We’ve gone back and forth a little bit and we’re on the second take on the character’s outfit right now.
For the chuubas out there who hired a character artist, how many revisions with your artist did you go through before you loved the design?

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>>22118624
2 revisions. that was because any more than 2 major revisions and they would charge for additional revisions.

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>>22113316
>ponytail
>top knot
Cute…

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>>22118807
I second the top knot, i love that detail

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>>22119196
I mean, how else would you expose forehead?

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Is it even possible to make a living off rigging? Of course I assume the big ones are set for doing it but I'm still learning and worry if this will be viable for long term/making this my primary job. I'd prefer if I could but should I have a back up plan just in case?

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did 10.35 hours worth of streaming reps in my first week... feels good bros

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>>22121381
Who knows how long VTubers will last as a fad?

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>>22121916
I think there's too much appeal in constructing an idealistic, anonymous persona for streaming for it to ever completely burn out. My personal hope is that vtuber "culture" burns out, though.

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>>22121381
>Is it even possible to make a living off rigging?
yes but you can't rely on vtubing. expand your talents to games with anime rigging and you'll make tons of cash. mobile games love jiggle physics on their anime waifus, league has those animated loading screens. you can even do live2d animation projects for small indie devs.

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>>22122069
>expand your talents
I'm still new to the whole L2D "community" so I don't really know much beyond vtubing, but I'll be sure to look into that as well if I can
>>22121916
I think it'll be around for good

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>>22122192
it's a bit of a 糞げ but unironically play nekopara to expand your scope a bit

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>>22122069
do l2d for gacha games if you're high profile or get there in future, huge cash cow. also what >>22122069 said

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>>22121381
If you live is a low cost country, yes.

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Well that's a first. The TikTok grinding finally feels worthwhile after half a month of daily posts ^^
As much as TikTok blows, it really seems like the only platform that will promote you so I appreciate that much.MMADW

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>>22122054
>>22122192
I expect it to be a thing long-term, but the amount of rigging demand may drop eventually...

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>>22122552
How much of that is children? Actually.. Can you age restrict and still get picked up by the algorithm?

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>>22122552
Don't mind the captcha at the end of this post...

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Alright, time for the Admiral's revenge. Tonight we are going to try Final Fantasy 8 again, this time with a better setup that makes it look even better. Come and hang out if you'd like.

Thanks again for the help, here's hoping things don't break this time!

https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

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>>22122632
Don't see anywhere in my analytics to check age, unless you can point me there. And actually don't see a way to age restrict an account as well.
Not sure why you would want to though, what kind of content are you making?

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>>22123198
Sorry, I don't know tiktok at all thats why I asked. My twitch channel is 18+ and it would not be moral for me personally to advertise to children for it.

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>>22122658
Is it not frowned upon to self promote here? I've seen it a few times with no push back.

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>>22124099
Do it for feedback, don't shill yourself every time if you're not looking for feedback.

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>>22124099
well, sounds like you've answered your own question eh?

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>>22122552
post account

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>>22124099
Not him but the OP says
>Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly
So i guess it's ok as long as it's not too often

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>>22124403
even so, I wouldn't recommend doing it. Don't tie yourself to this board if you want to get anywhere. You never want to be known as "the /here/ vtuber"

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where would one find a character designer?
i want to commission a new model but i want to find someone who designs characters primarily first but it's difficult to search for those terms...any suggestions? i'm assuming pixiv where you can talk to your artist and get a few different design options when you give them a basic idea of what you want.

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>>22124508
it's not really a thing that anyone outside of here cares about unless, there's a bunch of chuubas that have selfposted in /asp/ or /wvt/ and have reasonably sized followings

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it's such a pain to stream with only one monitor, I can't wait until I have enough money to get a second one

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>>22124876
Same desu
I need a new desk too…

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>>22124982
And by new monitor, I mean something that isn’t my 22” XP-PEN tablet or my old as fuck 22” TV

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>>22124792
>get a png
>stream
>build up your community
>when you have 100 CCV ask your viewers to help you find a character designer
you'll know what you want from your character as you aim to do a redesign. dont start out trying to achieve perfection.

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>>22125051
>when you have 100 CCV
So never...

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>>22125051
Yes. Learn from bodysuit anon’s (me) mistakes
Figure something out and get it to a usable state, start streaming.
Maybe I might try streaming some of the character sheet process once I feel comfortable enough to do it live

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>>22125300
it's not that hard to do your reps and market yourself.

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>>22124792
For me it was just a matter of looking through commission posts on Twitter. I found an artist I liked, showed them the references and gave a short text about the character's "personality" (which was just how I wanted them visually portrayed) and we talked from there.

>>22125051
>get a PNG
OK so commission someone to design it?
>ask your viewers to help you find a character designer
Unless your viewers are chuubas this is the most retarded shit. I've got 20 viewers or so that aren't chuubas and none of them know a single thing about commissions. There's some things viewers just don't know anything about unless they're coincidentally in a community where that's normal. The PNG still needs a design,

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Today I am going to start streaming again after a 3 month hiatus, I feel so nervous. I want to stick to it now that I have a somewhat stable income and I don't have to worry about my mom so much anymore.
Tips for pre-''start streaming'' anxiety?

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>>22122632
>>22124003
No need to age restrict if you aren't creating content that appeals to children. No matter what platform you advertise on there will be large percentage of children on it. The best solution is to not advertise at all

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>>22125450
>OK so commission someone to design it?
no. slap together a design, ask your artist to draw it in their style with a mouth open and mouth closed. that's it. you don't need to """""""design"""""""" anything especially not your first attempt at an avatar.
>none of them know a single thing about commissions.
you really are ngmi if you're this fucking retarded.
>The PNG still needs a design,
cute boy in a hoodie. there you go. stop being a faggot.

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>>22125495
>Tips for pre-''start streaming'' anxiety?
press the start streaming button

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>>22125495
it won't go away until your 3rd or 4th month. just start and numb yourself to it.

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>>22125538
>my viewers don't commission art
>YOU'RE NGMI!
This is a really bad troll dude, stop giving shit advice to people. Outside of furries the most viewers I've seen know about comms are "so I give him money and he makes the art", nothing about how to find something, the art style you like, etc. The only person that's going to be able to find something like that is you.

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>>22125311
i already stream

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>>22125712
>do you know any cool chuubas with amazing art?
>get suggestions
>look through model artists of suggestions
wow do you seriously need every single fucking step written out for you? are you unable to conceptualize how you can take one piece of advice and extrapolate it to further steps? why are you so fucking retarded?

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>starting with a character design is bad
man i fucking hate this place. not everyone spends months brooding over a design. most people come up with the concept, send it to an artist and call it a fucking day. they sent a sketch back, i asked about a few changes and they sent another that I gave the OK for. it took me maybe 3 weeks to get mine back and when I got it i asked for a "mouth open" of the front face of the ref sheet and they added it before sending me the files

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>>22125794
Do you think this is something anyone does? Maybe for a normal comm, but most if not all chuubas are picking their artist themselves based on either their personal tastes or their personal tastes+whoever is popular, not hoping viewers aren't linking you some inaccessible 200k+ follower artist with nice art that doesn't even do Live2D, a bunch their friends, or low quality artists, industry artists, or artists that don't even take comms. Stop giving advice that literally no one has acted on to begin with.

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>>22126057
Yozora

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>>22125794
at 100CCV youre still lucky to have maybe 20-30% active chatters or participators so really you're looking at maybe a handful of actual suggestions. youre better off finding someone yourself that you already like or searching on your own.

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>>22126136
at 100CCV you have thousands on twitter who can link you profiles of other artists. why are all you aspies so fucking stuck thinking that you're only allowed to ask the active viewers this question a single fucking time on stream? are you all incapable of expanding the advice to anything else?

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>>22126194
/asp/ has always had a problem expecting a Silver Bullet for everything. If your 1 suggestion doesn't completely solve the problem completely while also addressing every possible contingency, they'll shit down your throat for giving out bad advice.

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>>22126194
i feel like you dont really know what you're talking about and are just going off what makes sense in your head, not what happens in reality.

Just fiind an artist you like and ask them if they take that kind of commission, it really is not that hard.

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>>22126136
This is an issue I seem to have. I appreciate the lurkers and people say they enjoy listening in the background but I'll have 20 or 15 people talking with 100 people watching. Sometimes it fluctuates a tonand there's tons of people talking but largely its only a few. I've gone to other streamers and this seems rather normal. But it's still something that bothers me.

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>>22126316
>Just fiind an artist you like and ask them if they take that kind of commission, it really is not that hard.
that's what i've been saying. stop wasting time looking to commission professional character designers from Pixar to come up with your avatar. just get a fucking png. slap together something that's aesthetically pleasing to look at and just get a model so you can start streaming.

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>>22126377
It's normal all the way to the top really. Even the streamers with tens of thousands of viewers have maybe a few hundred active chatters. One I watch with 27k CCV has had a bot sit in his channel for a month without telling anyone and learned he had on average about 800 active chatters that sent more than 30 unique messages a stream. Most viewers just prefer to enjoy the content silently and lurk.

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>>22126400
>stop wasting time looking to commission professional character designers from Pixar to come up with your avatar
Not once was this suggested and never has anything like this been expected either. The anon asked how to find a character designer, not "How do I find the most ELITE, PRESTIGE gacha artist in Japan to design my character?", stop misrepresenting the original point. They just wanted an artist in general and seem new to getting commissions.

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>>22125553
>>22125580
Damn you are right, at least i know one people will show up so I should be excited

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>>22126563
>Not once was this suggested
it wasn't suggested because it's a retarded idea. but that is exactly what >>22124792 was asking.

>i want to find someone who designs characters primarily first
i was telling him how dumb of an idea that was. your reading comprehension reps. do them faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

stop responding to overly angry anons, it's yellow cat attention whoring like always

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>>22126955
nah, overly angry anon has been here for a lot longer than yellowcat has been

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>>22126955
Kek. I kinda recognize that anon through his typing style (and how much he insults every polite question asker), but I'm pretty sure he's not yellow cat. I'm still kinda new here tho. Anyways, angry anon if you're reading this please chill out.

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>>22124508
speak for yourself, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

anyone knows how to ajust the resolution of DosBox? it's either full screen or super-small, I would like something in between

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>>22128594
http://www.brianapps.net/sizer4/

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>>22126952
whats wrong with wanting to get a ref sheet done by someone who primarily designs characters before getting a model done by someone who specializes in l2d? expecting a l2d artist to be experienced in designing a character without a reference sheet on hand is kinda dumb, no?
i never said i wanted a fucking pixar artist to design my character kek i just want to find a competent artist who has experience with creating a character from an idea prior to commissioning a l2d artist
but yeah other anons are right kinda a waste of time to reply to some angry viewerfag

[Anonymous No.]

Reflector vs AirServer?
Which one is better in terms of performance and features?

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>>22124099
Who knows, I haven't gotten a lot of negative comments here yet, and i feel like i have overshared myself for /asp/ already. I try to be at least not obnoxious, but i'll probably move my "go-live" posts to /wvt/ soon, because they don't really belong in /asp/.

Personally i don't care if i'm associated with these boards, i like you guys and i have no intention of "making it" to the point where this being tied to this place would be a detriment.

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>>22128594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiT_EfxVUM8&t=217s
nvm used this and it helped. Hell yes, worms time

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>>22130168
Thanks for the stream, what FF do you recommend as a starting point? I had to leave early (Sorry)

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>>22131079
That really depends on what kind of experience you are looking for.

FF1-6 give a more classic 2D jrpg experience, with 6 probably being the best from the bunch.

FF7-10 are probably the golden era where very few games can compare to what square made at the time.

There's a ton more, but for me 6 through 10 are the core FF experience and you could pick any of them and probably enjoy them if you are into these games. Asking for opinions on FF games is a dangerous thing to do, if you are brave enough ask on /v/, but in the end nobody can tell if you'll like them.

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>>22125538
>cute boy in a hoodie
stealing this design, nothing personnel

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>>22130168
>He thinks he is ready.

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>>22131633
Alright, thanks for the info, i guess i'm starting with 6

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>>22132569
What could he have possibly meant by that, while using a deceptively intelligent looking frog?

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>>22125047
Have you checked out any pawn shops, thrift stores or electronics recycling places in your area? If you're in the states you could always check out Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist too, but the former seems to be much more populated these days. Not sure what other countries have but I'm sure there's some sort of online classifieds you could check for a cheap secondhand monitor wherever you are

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>>22126955
It's not the cat, it's that person that spergs out at the notion of having to use their own brain and not having the perfect advice spoonfed to them

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An addendum to the conversation, design style should be considered. Like how you can tell a character is say, from Genshin based on certain design elements (flowy clothes with simple overall shape but elaborate patterns), looking at the characters that artist has designed in the past and deciding based on that will reduce the amount of back-and-forth you have to do with your artist to get the design you want down.

[Anonymous No.]

don't take the bait, aspies. go back to doing your reps.

[Anonymous No.]

Where to shill a vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22134946
/wvt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>22134999
How about someone that hasn't debuted yet? I found out about her through twitter and has potential

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135068
what are you shilling if they haven't created content? if you like the model shill the artist in /a/

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>>22135068
If there's no content there's nothing to shill.

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>>22135068
Don't

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>>22135102
I guess you're right but maybe I'm simping too hard before a debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135166
If you like the model just post it here already. I want to see too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135312
twitter.com/akuradere
IDK bros... Maybe it's just me

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>>22135458
It's just you.

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>>22135458
>twitter.com/akuradere
Maybe you should tell her that her rig is acting funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135458
damn so this is the power of twitter and paying money for assets

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135930
that's the secret none of the big chuubas will ever admit. spend money on an attractive model and you'll get tons of follows easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135669
Maybe it is
>>22135852
I would but I fear she would block me

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135852
I mean yeah it has me shilling for free

[Anonymous No.]

Is Yellow Cat babi and edgy moe done right? Based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135458
This is so painfully generic, it's like she went through a checkbox. Kinda overdesigned and with a meh silhouette.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135458
>another uwu cute, girly, pink catgirl that's actually just a massive bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>22138139
Yikes.
I was half expecting this, honestly.
Some people just have that "fake bitch" aura about them, if you know what I mean.

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>>22138968
It's super common with the "hot topic" style e-girl shit too. The cheap Amazon heart collar, chest/boob straps, pink/pastel demon girl shit, etc. The type of people who like this shit just grab some "E-girl" references off of google and toss them to an artist so they can be an absolute piece of shit to people behind an anime girl avatar. If she hasn't already, she'll face reveal and probably shill and OF as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135458
women like this make me hate being straight
but fuck acting homo for the memes, that shits gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135458
https://twitter.com/machiinya
they come in a pair
also, definitely just you

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>>22135458
>>22140161
I swear Twitter-fags ALWAYS have the shittiest avatars. Over designed Harajuku style garbage

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>>22140922
The sad truth is that most of these normie, boring girls can't design characters for shit. They just slap as many accesories as they can, send it to the artist, then hope people call it good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22125495
Prepare something you enjoy, like tea or a snack. Playing music on bg on headset makes me feel comfy before start streaming. Good luck!!

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and they still manage more viewers than /asp/ies who draw and redraw their models

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>>22141577
this, and after going through their tweets/replies it's so fucking mind numbing
the same overused memes and zoomer shit over and over, it actually feels like i would lose braincells interacting with these people
t. zoomer

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>>22141800
No they don't. All they do is play the "follow 4 follow" game until they reach some arbitrary milestone, stream once to 3 people, never touch content creation again and just shitpost on Twitter until Vtubing bores them.

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>>22141948
Twitter is full of copy-pasted people lmao.

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>>22142277
Whatever helps you cope. Plenty of these copied and pasted girls have no problem getting viewers .

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>>22141800
She hasn't even streamed yet so she has 0 views.

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>>22141800
>>22142277
I'm in the middle with both these takes
On one hand, these vtweeters know how to make connections, (not really great ones since they're built under the guise of "follow 4 follow" but I digress)
On the other hand, you've got /asp/ies who at least TRY to differentiate themselves between the horde of mediocrity and not doing the "pre-debut/TBA" bs (but I see a lot of the time anons end up ignoring advice or can't even push the stream button)
Either way, I still hate twitter

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>>22143441
It's all about finding the fine line between being scummy and having integrity.

[Anonymous No.]

this is why you compare number of tweets to number of followers. you have vtweeters who are chronically on twitter with 40-50k tweets with 5k followers that are 2views on twitch. then you have twitch partners pulling in 300CCV with 24 tweets because they don't waste their life on twitter.

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>>22143441
Personally I think the TBA/Pre-Debut, done right, is an excellent way to start up. That being said you still need to do your reps but there are people out there who are either already sociable and charismatic and don't need to spend months streaming to 0 viewers or have enough of a plan set up that they can do pre-debut content and still build a community that way, the latter of which typically was into streaming long before becoming a streamer themselves or just studied the format enough to replicate it pretty simply. I think Pre-Debut is fine if done efficiently but most people here don't really have the means, experience, and in many cases the drive or desire to do that.

>differentiate themselves between the horde of mediocrity
Sure I guess, but they mainly just end up becoming part of a smaller crowd of mediocrity.

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I wonder, have you ever followed someone because of the design alone?

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>>22144071
yeah

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>>22144071
Yeah I just shilled them here

[Anonymous No.]

>>22144087
Do share.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22144143
https://twitter.com/Nearigami_

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>>22143972
>Personally I think the TBA/Pre-Debut, done right, is an excellent way to start up.
asp always talks about how chuubas do it wrong. so what's the right way to do it?

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>>22144071
Ironically has a similar "vibe" to the one anon just shilled, but I think it's done much better.

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>>22144507
Forgot image.

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>>22144367
nta but I followed this guy on a whim one day months ago and kind of watched his process from pre-debut to partner as of recently and it just seemed like he had a plan like >>22143972 mentioned before even starting. got his design, his branding, etc and networked and made meme content, then once he got his model he just kept the ball rolling and got more people interested.

https://twitter.com/TheCJBOSU

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>>22145281
isn't he the chuuba that a schizo anon baitposted with yesterday with a comment about how he made partner in less than 3 months?

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>>22145281
Yeah this guy and Kenji are probably the prime examples of good inclines

>did daily tiktok uploads
>streamed regularly and made clips and content
>networked with a lot of people on twitter and knew how to properly engage with social media

and more

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>>22145509
>and knew how to properly engage with social media
this is the part i have trouble with. what does "properly engaging with social media" look like?

[Anonymous No.]

Hey 2view Andy's what's the thing that like talks when donations play? Like it's an avatar that comes on screen and will talk like a png tuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145677
your mother.

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>>22145606
So what I do is I make a LOT of art and post new pics weekly of me, and have other art of other anime charcters in-between. I then do animations etc. I share this all over from, community posts two to then Instagram with the correct tags. I'll ask questions a lot in the post to drive engagement. Posts went from 200 likes to well over 1k per over the course of a few months. The biggest thing is, DONT have an opinion on Twitter. No one cares what you think and it only hurts growth. Stick to cute stuffs.

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>>22145447
I think he did get it in less than 2 months streamed so it might be him.


>>22145606
The Twitter pastebin is pretty good for this in all honesty, but you still have to be sociable enough to know how to talk to another human being so that outs a lot of people on this site. One thing about him though is that he did invest quite a bit and that look of a "professional" or "finished" channel makes people a lot more likely to interact even if you're pre-debut.

You don't need to just spend an insane amount of money (though that's an option), I think it just helps to have a channel, brand, and overall look that feels finished and not under construction with random shit constantly changing. Hiiragi Yuu did a great stream about visual branding but I think the VOD might be gone by now, though she said she'd edit it so it might be on her Youtube.

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>>22145728
My mother is a Saint you whore, you take that back reeeeeeeee

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>>22146175
lmao anon, I think that's streamlabs.

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>>22146034
>The biggest thing is, DONT have an opinion on Twitter. No one cares what you think and it only hurts growth
Yeah, my few high-interaction tweets are all me asking OTHER people what their opinions are. A great one I've seen repeated over and over are variants of "What's your favorite part of your avatar?" or "Here's my horns, what do yours look like?" if you've got a distinct theme or charm point that's common amongst other Vtubers. Give people a chance to talk about themselves because it might seem like they're the ones being advertised, but it all leads back to your social media in the end.

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My holo audition video only got viewed for 3 seconds and it's been days since... its definitely over for me, right?? I'm going insane

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>>22146281
i think they mean that thing krimbo does where he has the grubbo and the minion on screen. its a combination of a lot of things. streamlabs usually just sends out an alert with whatever animation, gif, or PNG you picked to show when you get a dono.

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>>22146034
>tfw have the artistic talent of roadkill
th-thanks anon for the help

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>>22146361
The human attention span is roughly 3 seconds in this day and age. If you didn't do anything interesting in those 3 seconds or showed off some illiterate ESL voice, most people would click off. It's a harsh truth we all face eventually. Or hey, on the positive side maybe they straight up haven't seen it yet and those 3 seconds are just YouTube algo or yourself in incognito mode or something.

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How do I even

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>>22146820
Just do

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>>22146820
Consult OP's text and go from there. Start off as a png tooba or go the VRoid route, there's pros and cons for both so do your own research. Start a TikTok, YouTube and Twitter account. Start an Instagram one too if you do art stuff. Post daily, stream roughly once every 2 days, don't talk politics, have fun

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>>22146543
Hire people find artist. You think I do all my art myself? It's litterally hundreds of pictures lol. Have a budget set aside money. If you can't? Then get a part time job, find a side hussle or find another way. If it was easy litterally everyone would be that loli shark bait person or the pink haired girl or dragon with massive tits... I refuse to learn their names, but you get the point.

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>>22125362
>market yourself
This is the hardest fucking part for me. No matter what I do I barely get people and those who show up barely stay. And yes, I've done all the basic reps.

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>>22148883
>I've done all the basic reps.
doubt
>No matter what I do I barely get people and those who show up barely stay
>barely stay
now i know you haven't been doing any reps at all. you're just streaming to 0 viewers and hoping to be organically found by viewers aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

Would you make your own ogey or other versions of memes, or would you prefer the community make them?

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>>22149517
i rather the community make them. i'll shout you out if you make something for me.

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>>22148883
Can you give us a small breakdown of what exactly you believe the "basic reps" are and the stesp you're taking that aren't giving you the results you want?

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>>22135458
Why is everyone so butthurt, the design is cute and while she is a "lewdtuber" she isn't forcing you to watch her. This place is full of ngmis, no wonder why /here/tubers always end up causing drama.

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>>22138139
>>22152849
She's a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

promised myself i will do one vid a week for as long as i possibly can, currently week 2. i need better time management because fuck me i literally don't have time to draw if i do video editing. maybe i have to cut back on posting in /asp/ but i feel like /asp/ motivates me a lot to keep going

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>>22153101
>caring about what someone else does on twitter and getting butthurt over it
>not focusing on your own reps
typical aspie. you're ngmi.

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>>22152849
>/here/tubers always end up causing drama
A majority of the time it's chuubas like her that act nice and cute and then go for people's throats for any perceived slight or just for attention >>22138139 . Not even sure where you got that rhetoric from.

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>>22153178
>doing something that many people who are both successful and unsuccessful do
>ngmi
Please stop just making shit up as an excuse to say ngmi. You can just say you don't like it, we all know it's what you mean anyway.

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>>22153265
>big chuuba sometimes gets involved in drama so i should too
cringe

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>>22153101
>>22153190
I was talking about people calling her design shit and stuff

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>>22153178
I am allowed to dislike stuff. This is not a hugbox and you are not owed praise and sympathy for everything you do.

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>>22153312
Not even remotely what I said. It's something that happens at every single level and not a signifier of whether or not someone will do well.

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>>22153319
The design is garbo.
There's nothing about it that is unique or that stands out. It's overdesigned, the legs in particular are bad.

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>>22153160
If that's you're art, are you looking for a job?

[Anonymous No.]

ok bros, so I'm working on a model that wears a metal band battle jacket, with patches/pins based on made-up bands. I'm trying to come up with band names that are at least mildly offensive to people who enjoy vtubers. So far I've got "Idol Carcass," "Dead On Debut," "Yabai," "Eternal Graduation," and "Seiso Crusher." Surely /asp/ has a few more ideas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154201
knowing vtweeters are this stage they'd wear all of those labels with pride

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>>22154201
i like dead on debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154201
Death Cab for Cunny

[Anonymous No.]

>>22153753
yeah i drew that. if you want a commission i unfortunately prob can't do it since i got some personal projects lined up eating up a lot of time

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>>22154201
2view Apocalypse
Oshi Bloodbath
Hollow Life
Rigged by Satan
Eternally Yab'd
Past Life Paparazzi

If you're a hololive fan or don't mind tongue in cheek references you can have some themed after different chuubas incidents like "The Hand", "Necromancer Matrimony Genocide", or "Draconic Slaughter"

[Anonymous No.]

>>22155090
kek, perfect, exactly the type of shit I'm looking for. Thanks anon

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>>22154201
im trying to come up with some but none of my ideas are "band name" enough and way too malicious towards specific vtubers, like "Dead Dog Hiatus", or " Rancid roommate"

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How offensive is it to edit a character design comm-in-progress and ask the artist to "make it more like this"?
I don't want to jerk them around with more revisions if I can show them the types of changes I'd like, instead of writing and making them guess based on that. But, I also don't want to piss them off.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't sing and I'm afraid that people are going to want a karaoke stream. I'm doing my reps and practicing regardless but I don't think it'll get much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22143915
Kyou (kuramekira) is chronically on twitter all day

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>>22155932
the people who would want karaoke from you are the people there for you
ame couldn't sing when she first started and people still loved her for her SOVL
there's also noel as an example of pure unfiltered SOVL

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>>22155935
ASMR is known as the biggest number trap for a reason. there's a lot of people out there looking for ASMR and they aren't loyal to your sounds. his numbers mean nothing. you can start an ASMR channel right now and get 100 average viewers within 2 months.

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>>22155912
I've done this multiple times for designs and never had an issue. I'd send it to a few artist friends to see what they thought whenever I had a "Something is missing..." moment and they'd do a quick scribble over it, I'd send it back, and the artist had no issue with it and on a few occasions thanked me for having a reference of the change

[Anonymous No.]

>>22155912
If you're that worried about it, you can just ask "dude, i suck at describing in words what i want, would you mind if draw on top?", I doubt he/she will say no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156161
Even if /m/ale?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156161
If you can't get 100 ccv after 2 months of doing anything I think there is something wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156323
Only linechu comes to mind, but he has been streaming ASMR for much longer with way more follows.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't feel but feel jealous of talented vtubers, I know that developing a talent takes a lot of time and effort, I just wish I wasn't so depressed for half of my life span and I focused on learning something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156323
yes. sound triggers for ASMR are universal. you can go several ways
>BFE/GFE scenario voice asmr.
this is primarily whispers and ear blowing triggers. whispers can be done with most mics but ear blowing will require a very good condenser mic and proper sound filters to avoid popping. viewers who come for this like to self insert and it takes work coming up with the scripts but if you pull it off well they'll be loyal viewers. takes the most amount of effort and is better suited to youtube videos instead of livestream. one of the more notable chuubas i know who does this is darlingstrawb https://www.youtube.com/c/darlingstrawb

>object trigger AMSR.
this was one of the most popular ASMR forms out there in the past. think cutting little chunks of soap bars or crinkling hardpaper. requires the most amount of initial investment since it can cost some money to put together the objects needed to make the trigger noises. you can find millions of these on youtube right now, usually just a handcam with some person's well manicured nails handling the objects.

>general sound trigger
has become more common after object trigger ASMR kinda fell off. this is what Fauna and Millie do on their streams. soft tapping, gentle rubbing, combined with whispering keywords and trigger phrases. some people have specific words that when spoken softly can trigger ASMR for them and this allows the chuuba to tailor the experience for their viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156642
>darlingstrawb
if you're looking for male https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHfv6PeN5thySBnFVu88GUw riikami is up there as one of the top male bfe asmr chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156537
Start now then. Theres nothing wrong with cultivating a talent on stream, majority of indies I've seen do it.
Use it as content, have fun with it. Lets say you're trying to practice drawing, make a quick 1-5 minute doodle a points redeem. If you draw something with an outlandish concept thats funny, go ahead and clip it. Post it as a short, subtly mention its a points redeem and it might just hook people in.
Content creation is a creative hobby, get creative with what you want to do on stream, and get creative how you can spin things to knock out offline content/marketing while streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156537
This, and i can't help but be bitter sometimes about how it "could've been me" if i just applied myself sooner. No better time than now to start.

[Anonymous No.]

>no longer having issues with pre stream jitters
>still noticed 3 hours into a stream that I was probably mumbling and whispering into the mic the entire time
Undoing years of reclusiveness is hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156642
>>22156756
Alright, i'll give it a try, i've actually been told i have an ASMRish voice ITT before but never tried to capitalize on it for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>22157844
You can do it! Keep putting in the effort and work, and you'll be proud of yourself when you finally get to see the fruits of your labor.

[Anonymous No.]

Well bros this is it.
After grinding hard my Twitter got nuked. I avoided all the fun words, only posted cutesy stuff etc. And because some one called me a retard it's been terminated permanently. It's the weirdest thing. Some one responded to me correcting my spelling error and called me a retard. They get the tweet deleted for violating the tos. But I'm sent an email saying I'm being banned too, with a screen cap of their tweet. Underneath my icon as if I said it. I tried appealing but it's been over a week and no response. I had 10k followers on that account, I tried to make another one and it was banned because my main is banned. I can't use any variation of my name, all my connections are gone etc. Heck I still have a bunch of commissions that are supposed to be done through there. I'm still making stuff but this is a huge blow not gonna lie. It's all a big joke anons, it's getting crazy out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22155090
>Hollow Life
I get that reference!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22149014
>>22151213
-I make clips of my own streams and edit them for TikTok
-I have a VTubie
-I make YouTube videos, most of them are covers right now
-I am active on Twitter and interact with other Chuubas
-My go live tweets come with a custom thumbnail (I stream on Twitch, if I were on YouTube that thumbnail would also go for the stream itself)
-I do a post-live tweet as well
-I also post some clips and vocal covers on Twitter with the right hashtags and SEO.
-I have a niche and I've gotten attention thanks to it. The big problem with that is that it's not necessarily related to videogames or VTubers
-I do memes related to me, the games I play, the stuff I do, VTubers, etc.
-I post many of the above to Reddit here and there too


Still, it's a miracle if I ever get to double digit ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22159682
Damn, does kinda seem like you're doing it all. While I haven't seen it if you're doing all this and people don't stay for long, it could just be that they don't find you entertaining. You're doing the basics, I think it's just a matter of becoming better at streaming itself or keeping this up until you get noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22159682
>I have a niche and I've gotten attention thanks to it. The big problem with that is that it's not necessarily related to videogames or VTubers
fetish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22159795
There's some element I'm missing but I can't know what it is.

Humility tossed aside, I think I'm very entertaining, and I've done this for a while. I was a fleshtuber for years before becoming a chuuba.

To be fair, I only started really putting the work for these reps recently, but I feel like I should've seen more growth than what I have now. I still end up with 1 viewer for parts of streams.

I'm working on doing more collabs right now and coming up with exciting events to hype things up. I recently did a nice collab with 5 other vtubers and I got 4 followers during the stream, which is a lot still at this point.

I'm going to just save the money to hire a consultant. There are some that specifically work with Vtubers too. Most of them are as expensive as the rigging of a model but I've gotta do what I most to fulfil this dream.

Unless Niji or Holo find me in the haystack first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22159682
>I make clips of my own streams and edit them for TikTok
do you post them to tiktok? what are your numbers on it? even the laziest chuubas get 100-200 likes on their tiktoks.
>VTubie
no one cares about this
>I make YouTube videos
>most of them are covers
these aren't "covers" they're karaokes. a proper cover takes a month to put together and costs money to make. if you're not getting views on these it's because you're either terrible at singing or you're jumping the gun and creating content no one cares. why would anyone watch the 14,203rd cover of a song by some no name?
>My go live tweets come with a custom thumbnail
what are your numbers on this? your post twitch stream stats should tell you how many of your views came from twitter.
>post-live tweet
no one cares about this other than the people who raided you for the shoutout
>with the right hashtags and SEO
tell me when the last time you searched for a chuuba using hashtags. i don't even think you know what "SEO" means on twitter and just throwing it out there. fyi, including the word "cover" or "song" on your tweet is meaningless because there are literal millions of tweets that include the word. you're not doing "SEO" by putting #YouAreKing on your tweets
>The big problem with that is that it's not necessarily related to videogames or VTubers
there's a vtuber who discusses politics and philosophy. it doesn't matter you're just a streamer.
>I do memes
facebook moms also "do memes" using minions from Despicable Me. doesn't mean they're good. what are your engagements on those?
>I post many of the above to Reddit
this is also useless because it's so vague. are you posting your shitty Apex Legends clips to the r/ApexLegends subreddit and getting -3 downvotes? are you just throwing your "i'm going live playing a game for the first time check me out if you want" link to r/virtualyoutubers like the dozens of 2views spamming their links.

if you're seriously doing all of these it sounds like you're just half assing it for the sake of ticking off a checklist to claim you did it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22160334
Whatever you think you have to do. In all honesty I'm not against the manager route, plenty of chuubas have employed legitimate ones and found success even from small numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>22125362
>just market yourself
I think so many people underestimate how hard it is to get to 100 CCV. For every "Partner in 2 months" streamer there is, there are thousands who don't pass Affiliate or do pass it and get stuck there perpetually.

It speaks volumes that I've seen way more VTubers nowadays who get to 5000+ Twitter followers and Twitch Partner by doing huge giveaways every week than VTubers actually making it for being entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22159682
Either you're exaggerating or you're doing something wrong because I've been doing way less than you and I get around 10 CCV half of the time after a week of streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22160442

>do you post them to tiktok? what are your numbers on it? even the laziest chuubas get 100-200 likes on their tiktoks.
I get those numbers for views but not for likes, much less followers.

>these aren't "covers" they're karaokes. a proper cover takes a month to put together and costs money to make. if you're not getting views on these it's because you're either terrible at singing or you're jumping the gun and creating content no one cares. why would anyone watch the 14,203rd cover of a song by some no name?
To an extent that's true but I don't just sing on top of an instrumental and throw it on the internet. I mix the vocals in audacity, and then do a lyric video for the songs. The vocal mixing tbf is hit-and-miss but I'm not a millionaire and can't hire someone to professionally do it every time.

>what are your numbers on this? your post twitch stream stats should tell you how many of your views came from twitter.
Barely any.

>tell me when the last time you searched for a chuuba using hashtags. i don't even think you know what "SEO" means on twitter and just throwing it out there. fyi, including the word "cover" or "song" on your tweet is meaningless because there are literal millions of tweets that include the word. you're not doing "SEO" by putting #YouAreKing on your tweets
That's true I barely search for hashtags but what else can I do besides the SEO?
It's more than just the words "cover" or "song" it's also the names of it and a formatting to make it look good with emoji, paragraph spacing, etc.

>there's a vtuber who discusses politics and philosophy. it doesn't matter you're just a streamer.
I could some advice on this.

>facebook moms also "do memes" using minions from Despicable Me. doesn't mean they're good. what are your engagements on those?
Mixed. Some do good for my size, some don't.

>this is also useless because it's so vague. are you posting your shitty Apex Legends clips to the r/ApexLegends subreddit and getting -3 downvotes? are you just throwing your "i'm going live playing a game for the first time check me out if you want" link to r/virtualyoutubers like the dozens of 2views spamming their links.
Nope. I post some of the vocal covers there, and I even did a mix of all the openings for an anime series into one video with a link to all my other places in the video itself. That one did quite well but again, the difficulty is converting those engagers into more.
I post these on relevant subs.

>if you're seriously doing all of these it sounds like you're just half assing it for the sake of ticking off a checklist to claim you did it.
TBF, some of these I've only just started doing but as I said previously it feels like I at least should be averaging like 7 ccv or so. IDK.

I'm not an expert, but this is why I'm here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22097477
or worse
for them to know you pretend to be a loli on your free time
they will not be amused

[Anonymous No.]

>>22097491
where are you searching?
i am learning by creating one model for practice and want to give it for free
but i do not know where or how to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22160637
There's plenty of ways to make it. Being just all around a great entertainer is one way, but so is casting a massive fishing net and trying to get the most eyes on you in other more efficient ways. Getting people to look at your content is important, and as long as you aren't just flat out bad or hard to listen to/watch most people should be able to retain viewers it's just a matter of getting those people to see you, that's the actual difficult part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22160891
>I get those numbers for views but not for likes
this is a sign that your tiktoks shit and aren't "hitting" with any audience. stop making tiktok clips that are just random moments from your streams. watch your own tiktoks as if you were watching a 2view no name.

>I mix the vocals in audacity, and then do a lyric video for the songs
>The vocal mixing tbf is hit-and-miss
stop doing this. you're wasting your time putting out shit videos with a lot of effort to no one who will watch you.

>Barely any.
why do you keep doing this then? why haven't you changed it up?

>That's true I barely search for hashtags but what else can I do besides the SEO?
twitter uses keyword phrasing more than hashtags since bots fuck up hashtag filtering up the ass. don't bother asking for a magic keyword phrase that launches you into a viral tweet because that's not how it works. make better content.

>formatting to make it look good with emoji, paragraph spacing, etc.
you're overthinking it. emojis are also ranked lower on SEOs fyi use them sparingly.

>I could some advice on this.
stop looking at vtubers. look at tradface cam streamers. i've never understood why /asp/ is so obsessed with ignoring all feedback unless it's specifically geared towards vtubers and has #vtuber in the title. you're just streamers.

>Some do good for my size
this is a useless response.

> the difficulty is converting those engagers into more.
you fundamentally do not understand the point of reddit if you're treating it only as a way to funnel viewers to your twitch channel. no one likes shills. there are millions of fortnite kiddies who self shill on reddit to get people to their twitch streams and redditors are good at mentally filtering that shit out. stop acting like them.

>I post these on relevant subs.
again, more useless responses.

>it feels like
no one cares about your feelings. provide valuable entertainment and people will watch. sounds like you're not providing anything worth watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22098665
pick your favorite animal and make it a cute girl/loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154201
Just look up some grindcore band and change the word.

If you really wanna piss people off, find a way to use Anal Cunt song names

[Anonymous No.]

Do most babiniku go by he or she

[Anonymous No.]

>>22162455
usually she

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>>22162455
Usually she, but English allows you to be rather ambiguous with regards to your first-person pronouns, so long as someone else is not talking about you. As such, I'd say use the pronouns which feel comfortable for you? Comfort is important while streaming, after all... Some people will complain if these don't match their reading of you, but VTubing is kayfabe anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22161238
Not the anon, but karaoke/cover content always gets me more traction than highlights or stream content. I just follow trends, grab an instrumental, do basic mixing in reaper and release shit. Takes a week or two at most. Even managed to break into 5 digits a few times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22160637
>Twitch partner solely off giveaways
Name 1 vtuber that achieved this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22161238
>provide valuable entertainment
>stop doing this. you're wasting your time
and people wonder why aspies here quit after a few months.
"never watched your stuff but it's shit so stop doing that. go make ~good content~"
love to see it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164305
>never watched your stuff but it's shit
the most mediocre chuuba gets 100 likes by copying a tiktok sound. this one gets 100 views and not a single like with his own content. on tiktok. it's a very clear sign that the aspie's content is crap. your reading comprehension reps. do them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22125362
Anyone who posts like this needs to post receipts. Post your channel analytics or something to prove you can stack up to it.

Krimbo (more back than front desk) has a 30 day CCV of 80.
Kongou has a 30 day of 55.
Maroony hits 130, but I don't think she's actively here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164419
>stop doing this. you're wasting your time
go read back the part this was referring to. also love it when fags use 'reading reps' like a victory horn after not reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135458
attendrama vtweeter whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164305
>provide valuable entertainment
While I don't agree with everything that anon said, if it's not working and you've been doing it for an extended period of time while seeing no noticeable increase in viewership or engagement, there's a good chance it is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156161
There are plenty of stragglers that get to 100 ccv, but this is due to the ASMR raid etiquette - these Vtubers can't push beyond that. Contrary to what you think, the audience does have their favorites: these are the ones that steadily incline. I've seen plenty of smaller channels get raided by 500+ and lose 99% of viewership within a minute. They're surprisingly fickle.

[Anonymous No.]

name your buffs and debuffs
debuffs
>ESL
>poor
>bad internet
buffs
>female(female)
>cute voice according to people

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164910
>ESL debuff
ESL isn't a debuff if you capitalize on it! It can be charming if you play around it.

>bad internet
NGMI-chama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22153753
are you trying to get a model drawn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164991
>ESL isn't a debuff if you capitalize on it! It can be charming if you play around it.
i agree, Korone's English streams are what inspired me to start vtubing, but sadly I am not as charming and cute as Mr Koro san
>NGMI-chama...
i am saving to get better internet, but every single company here sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22161238
>stop looking at vtubers. look at tradface cam streamers...you're just streamers.
This is one of the biggest problems I see in these threads. Most people who are fans of Vtubers are almost 100% new to streaming in general. Everything they know is indie Vtubers, corporate Vtubers, and that's it. They know nothing about """"professional"""" streaming even at the most fundamental of levels because they've never consumed anything other than

>"Cute Japanese girl says some words in English and it goes viral"
>"omg this one says ara ara and tells me to have a nice day"
or
>"i watch this indie vtuber because she goes on 4chan and gets posted in my indie thread".

It's no coincidence a majority of the top chuubas have also been watching streamers for years, a lot just replicate what their favorites do and have their own spin on it. You won't magically become a good streamer by watching them obviously, but there's a lot of things you can pick up on, ideas you can steal, etc. The problem is the average 4chan contrarian would never watch the dreaded "normie" IRL streamer even though most if not all chuubas are making pretty normie (As far as your average twitch viewer goes) content, just with an anime avatar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164910
being female is such a massive buff that your debuffs don't matter

[Anonymous No.]

a lot of you guys talk a lot of shit for people who haven't even streamed

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165238
Unironically who is the highest ccv /asp/ie

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164910
debuffs
>poor
>wifi only
>male(male)
buffs
>3 lingo
>okay sounding ESL accent
>some people here said I sound cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165282
me

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165295
I need serious answers only, so i can decide if you guys are worth listening to

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165233
>being female is such a massive buff that your debuffs don't matter
only if you have a cute voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164553
>Krimbo
>Kongou
>Maroony
this is why you need to leave 4chan now and then

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165320
The big ones are busy actually streaming and making content so they're not here often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165336
??
>Someone mysteryposting about "100 CCV is easy in two months"
>anon asks for receipts, posts three chuubas all here/adjacent

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165282
>>22165320
if you're talking about any /asp/ie at all the highest CCV is probably Lumi but she was barely an aspie before getting picked up to go corpo
https://sullygnome.com/channel/kanekolumi/90
if you're talking entirely indie /asp/ie who hasn't gone corpo at all it's probably Lex but he has the deep male voice buff
https://sullygnome.com/channel/lexpartevt/90

both of them only posted a handful of times here but Lumi posted as an indie chuuba before becoming Lumi. Lex dropped his design once or twice and a vocaroo somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22164910
vocaroo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165320
General/technical advice? yes this thread is useful. Growing/marketing advice? Read the stuff in OP and watch Ludwig's advice videos.

[Anonymous No.]

I had a viewer ask me to open up donations tonight ;__;
Feels pretty good man

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165505
There is some half-decent advice here on growth/marketing but a majority of it is surface level. The best ones are shit you should already know, like clipping your own content or making sure you've got content somewhere off stream. I get this is a place to help people but that's just one of those things that needs to be common sense. No one here can tell you anything a "How to grow as a streamer" video on Youtube can't, in fact a majority of it is the same advice

If someone is struggling with something as basic as "I only go live and that's the only way someone can find me." they were never trying to begin with and won't grow no matter how much advice they're given

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165505
I personally think that content can be lukewarm or mid, its more important to get yourself into the "it" crowd.

Is there a leech speedrun guide?

[Anonymous No.]

I've always felt really shit about my voice, and thought it was really unattractive/gross sounding.

I woke up to an email inviting me to voice in a yaoi passion project.

I feel validated, but at what cost...

[Anonymous No.]

>Decent mic, PC, webcam and internet
>No noise gate, goxlr, or current workable model/png yet
>Poorfag at the moment


Is there any hope for me? I'm really concerned about my mic picking up random shit like me typing, drinking water or my occasional shitty asthma wheezing more than anything without a proper noise gate since I know a couple people who'd be able to help me with the other stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165639
Shut up and voice those gay boys, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165820
You can improve your mic a lot using this tutorial.
follow this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToHuInqVEHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165820
OBS has inbuilt audio filters. You can set up a noise gate as part of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165820
....just turn on the noise gate

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165855
I will, anon, thank you.

Whether I have to bend someone over, or do the bending myself... I will power through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22144071
When they showed up in my recommendations, yeah

[Anonymous No.]

This thread confuses me. Half of you actually want to help, and the other half are bitter NGMIs that have no idea what they're doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>22166375
the secret is that those who make it
>are able to sift through the shitposts
>ignore the bait
>leave the thread once they have enough to get started
the rest end up trapped here until they announce their graduation to their 30 twitter followers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22166375
Isn’t sifting through shit for gold what this website is all about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22166723
That's correct. The reason I still lurk 4chan, despite all of the shit and hatefulness, is because you can find really interesting critiques and uncommon perspectives that would be next to impossible to find on most personality/clout-driven social platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22166834
i like reading the funny banter and nice criticisms
then i use that to fuel my own ambitions
it's like a symbiotic relationship, except without the drawback of having to fake it till i make it

[Anonymous No.]

Bionicleanon here, finally got my capture card!!! Stayed up late to check if everything works, and I'm excited to finally have gotten through the setup. I'll probably try streaming the game throughout this week, any tips or things I should prepare for? Even if it's something simple. I'll check any replies later today since I'm going to sleep now, good luck to everyone doing their best!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22168199
Prepare for 2views. Make sure to try and let people know. People outside /asp/, and preferably interested in the Bionicle games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165820
>goxlr
why do you need this

[Anonymous No.]

I made affiliate anons! So excited. I know its not a big deal but it feel so validating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22165119
No I have a model I just put out constant artwork and stuff and am in desperate need of anime artists because it's not my style. I was a diffrent kind of vtuber before
>>22154980
Would still love to know your name if possible for when you're free. Though understandable if you don't want to post it here lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>22168323
Goxlr is litterally shit and over priced. I have it because I had a lot of money and am mildly retarded. The Yamaha 10u is way better. Even right now I just use a scarlet 2i2. The mic is way more important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22169125
Congrats anon! A lot of people don't manage it.
How long did it take, do you have plans to celebrate, and what's your link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22158673
I hope you have some other accounts you can use to contact your fans. Like a pixiv etc

[Anonymous No.]

Someone asked about character designs before. There is skima, if you're not too sure about what kind of design you want. There are a lot of adopt designs there. Gotta message the artist and check if they're okay with you using the design for vtubing first. A lot of them come with multiple expressions so you can be a png tuber till you can upgrade. Some charge quite a bit but there are some really nice designs there

https://skima.jp/dl/detail?id=101323 (girl design, with color adjustments it'll look cute) $50

https://skima.jp/dl/detail?id=101242 (male design) $80

pic is something I was going to buy (was only $40, I thought I'd buy it the next day but it was gone)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22158673
Sounds like you need Neener and Bat to get your account appealed

[Anonymous No.]

>>22169325
You literally can open your stream in 3 tabs and get affiliate..

[Anonymous No.]

Maow

[Anonymous No.]

>>22169497
Who? More info please? I had to appeal with the bbb and my appeal was accepted and sent to them. It now requires then to actually respond but if there's a back up plan that helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>22169125
>I know its not a big deal
it is, people just want to downplay it because they can't get it. don't waste it
>>22169538
that's not how it works, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170469
But thats how I got affiliate

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170497
then why don't you open 100 tabs and get partner?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170506
If you want to apply for partner you get checked manually by a twitch staff, affiliate you dont

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170520
damn, how come nobody figured this out already...

[Anonymous No.]

I get way too menhera about this whole thing, but I will stream today

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170636
Go google "affiliate ready accounts" on google and look how many are selling affiliate accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170670
go google how many viewers count per ip

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170718
go google vpns

[Anonymous No.]

Its not an achievement to get affiliate, I got my viewer account to affiliate just cause I wanted to have free emotes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170810
go google how vpns work

[Anonymous No.]

>>22169325
A month-ish after I started seriously streaming? A bit longer. My schedule has been erratic so its hard to say. Bitterbats on twitch.

Celebrating....mmm not much? I don't really know what I'd do? I plan on doing an emote art drawing stream Monday to be comfy before I hop back into regular streaming
(had rl stuff that made me a bit too bust this past week or so. Have to get back on the horse.)

>>22170469
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

anon, I...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22171472
You what?

[Anonymous No.]

Algo snowballs are no joke. I’ve been getting more people thanks to recommendations

[Anonymous No.]

>>22171637
Yea as a viewer I discover a lot from the "recommended channels" list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22169441
holy shit this site has so many cute sketches. Its a shame that im a guy and I dislike ikemen designs. I found 1 or 2 that look alright but not really what im looking for. Either way thanks for sharing this since it gives me ideas for my design

[Anonymous No.]

>>22170950
So a VPN to spoof 3 accounts to get affiliate in order to what? Drop back down to 0? No one takes affiliate seriously it's the easiest thing to get

[Anonymous No.]

>>22172042
>in order to what?
in order to make you upset because you can't even muster the strength to press the "start streaming" button

[Anonymous No.]

>>22172199
I streamed 2 days ago anon, not everyone here is stuck designfagging.