/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Can we settle this once and for all?
Do you enjoy solo streams getting invaded and surprise collab guests, or not? Because the streamers seem to think this is what the people want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Yes. Vox's GOI stream with everyone cheering him on was kino.

[Anonymous No.]

Sometimes, it just depends on the context and whether I like the guest. I like all the Holos so unless there's some stream I just really want to see the pure streamers reaction or interaction, I wouldn't mind. In Nijisanji I dislike about 2/3rds of the people so it's really a minefield for me, plus they make almost everything into a collab of some kind. It's too much.

[Anonymous No.]

+ People I care about (Rosemi and Pomu)
Solo
People I don't care about
Males

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I don't like other males showing up unannounced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Depends. If it's a solo stream where not much is happening solo and a collab partner would help it, I'm fine with it. If it's just a regular chill solo stream going fine, its bad

[Anonymous No.]

The bigger question is what are they gonna do when they get as many members as JP and can’t sell the “we’re a family” thing anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I'd enjoy Nijisanji more if they'd do less collabs and less pogchamp

[Anonymous No.]

I do! there are only a couple of members I don't like so seeing everyone hanging out on stream is nice. it always feels like they're having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah it livens up a stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Ask the nijien thread which is full of people who actually watch if you care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Surprise guests should be a surprise and not the norm. So at least 90% of the time it should be solo stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810755
Only fujos are there now and you know the answer they will give

[Anonymous No.]

I enjoy a balance

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that some of them just sit in Discord voice chat, which creates the situation of others popping up in their streams, really says a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
No i hate them
Balance is key, spamming collabs every week eventually become a nuisance

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Nijitrannys love this and they make up a good majority of the fanbase. Don't bother fighting a losing battle anon and just come home to Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
It’s good when done sparingly. It has impact. When it’s as constant as it is it’s kind of obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810814
So in the end you just wanna read answers that you like

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
It was happening too much so I just stopped watching them and unsubbed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21811132

74698 2022-02-10 10:11:40 [KainXross]][MEMBER]--- im becoming gay for you men
4524 2022-03-06 08:54:06 [yoonkosmos] --- What a good day to be gay
5308 2022-03-06 08:56:42 [Stanley Small] --- Last ASMR stream you said "That's my girl", so this time can you say "That's my boy" so the gays can be down bad too.
5991 2022-03-06 08:58:59 [XMidnightfox] --- VOX IM SOMEWHAT GAY
9088 2022-03-06 09:08:12 [D3ls0n] --- am i gay???????? i think so
9289 2022-03-06 09:08:46 [prince chion] --- IM SOOOOOOO GAY
11248 2022-03-06 09:14:42 [zhazu] --- im gay
11351 2022-03-06 09:15:01 [prince chion] --- i'm so gay for you vox
11556 2022-03-06 09:15:39 [DonkaHum] --- my man i subbed because i thought you looked cool, but i might be gay now
13029 2022-03-06 09:20:32 [D3ls0n] --- im gay
21551 2022-03-06 09:51:47 [七帆] --- Dear milord congratulations 400K, Can you say : small gay and his banana bread :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

6251 2022-03-03 07:20:11 [Zaltura] --- I'm not gay, am I?
6301 2022-03-03 07:20:19 [Zaltura] --- AM I GAY CHAT
6525 2022-03-03 07:21:06 [MeiMei] --- welp mom im gay now
10984 2022-03-03 07:34:25 [Ashton Darvell] --- Okay yes I am very gayyyy :black_heart:
11242 2022-03-03 07:35:13 [Huy Ly] --- im glad im gay
12925 2022-03-03 07:40:24 [Jack Kairos, Vampire Prince]][MEMBER]--- I may not get tingles but it's very relaxing and making me realise how gay I am-
13323 2022-03-03 07:41:43 [「 Inky 」] --- IVE SUDDENLY TURNED GAY
22562 2022-03-03 08:11:52 [Average Elf enjoyer] --- help I'm turning gay
23020 2022-03-03 08:13:18 [RubinyN] --- Im gay for u sir :heart_on_fire:
23096 2022-03-03 08:13:32 [chi !] --- im so gay omg
29430 2022-03-03 08:34:35 [A Sheep] --- This chat is going so fast no one, no one knows that I'm gay.
30910 2022-03-03 08:40:08 [Brian Mohammed] --- [en] listen....im not gay.......But......
32453 2022-03-03 08:45:49 [Vox's water bottle] --- youre turning my friend gay thank you
34887 2022-03-03 08:54:29 [nero]][MEMBER]--- i am so gay i cant do this
36830 2022-03-03 09:02:30 [nyamu] --- vox-sensei yes I'm gay :red_heart:
37024 2022-03-03 09:03:11 [dogboy antony] --- im both gay and yours

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
As long as they are all female AND English.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of the really big collabs with like 8-10+ people but 1 on 1 or 3 people is usually pretty comfy still

[Anonymous No.]

I hate it. Sometimes you just want a stream with your oshii. And there's these disruptions. And they are annoying dudes on top of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
It really depends, but I don't mind it nearly as much as this board seems to think fans do. Completely ditching the planned stream to do something else because of a collab is sort of annoying since that's what schedules are for, but it's not a big deal since it's not like I'm religiously waiting for certain streams. If they do it later on I'll watch later, if I like what they're doing now I'll watch now too. As for who they collab with, I don't really care since there isn't anyone I actively dislike enough to close the stream for.

I'd much prefer this rather than getting 1 spontaneous collab a week since it ends up in so many more kino moments that one or two shit ones gets tossed by the wayside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
truth is the girls just want a slice of the pie. personally im an antisocial skitz0id so the surprise collabs are overwhelming for me. at the same time i understand that they have their own prerogative. no reason to want it to be like how it was before, time goes on even without me. either way ill probably watch my oshi for eternity so honestly i dont care or want it to be any other way other than how it is right now at this very moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I don't like it even if I like both of the streamers involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I love a surprise girl on girl talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
No it sucks. I enjoy the dynamic between streamer and viewers. When someone joins in on voice chat then the viewers are usually removed from the equation.

[Anonymous No.]

Impromptu collabs are fun and have always been peak vtubing, even in Hololive some of the best ever interactions have been multiple girls showing up to play minecraft or someone joins in to show support (like Bae and her horror game playthroughs) or just chat like when Sana and Mori were both trying to get shiny legendary pokemon.
Solo streams get boring fast, especially when its a game that has been beaten to death already. Games like Mariokart should 100% always have people joining in to play

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
The numbers don't lie, the girs get a boost of views everytime they get a sudden guest and the stream turn into a collab. Only /vt/ hates it, and the fact that Pomu/Finana off collab got more views when Uki joined proves this.
NijiEN is hardcore hako oshi, if you don't like the whole group, then give up, or just watch Millie, I guess.

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>>21810318
It makes sense in certain contexts like Minecraft where people share the server and it's very easy for something to become a collab suddenly or not. That's part of the appeal of Holo MC actually is it's one of the only ways for random or rare interactions to pop up you otherwise never would have seen between Holos.

Other than that no it's not that useful apart from just showing up to say hi/give some support for a karaoke or whatever. Pulling people into voice chat etc should be advertised beforehand instead of just be the usual.

The other thing is, the context of the sudden/surprise collabs matters - in NijiEN some weeks there are about half collabs overall, they leech each other like fucking crazy. It's true leeching because the random fucking chinese office ladies watching the Luxiems never EVER EVER would have given someone like Pomu or Finana the time of day on their own if the males did not exist. The male audience is new and the females are trying as hard as they can to leech it.

Why, I don't know, insecure about numbers I'd fucking bet, especially seeing how fast the males inclined. Maybe the girls feel like the Western male audience they targeted failed them so they want to try to be adopted by the asian fujos. I don't think that really works so much as they are physically inserting themselves between the fujos and the males they came to see so just have to put up with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21812795
Rereading that I realize I trailed off, what I was aiming to say was the context matters because for NijiEN they already collab so, so so fucking much officially as it is that when the solo streams are getting butted into as well it just gets annoying. Collabs are a time you can completely ignore chat and so someone looking to turn even solo streams into collabs looks kind of like they don't want to actually talk to chat and are actively looking for excuses to duck out. Ok, so then why the fuck are we even watching if only to be a fly on the wall for some shitty clique?If they don't want the audience to exist, then what is the point of live streaming? Fucking upload a vod. Might as well just fuck off and watch some actual anime if people solely want to see cute anime girls.

[Anonymous No.]

It depends on the person. If Pomu, Alban, Fulgur or Vox are the ones showing up, I know it will be a fun watch.

[Anonymous No.]

depends very heavily on who's joining. if it's another streamer i like and i find their interactions fun, they can impromptu collab constantly and i'll love it. if someone i can't stand keeps randomly popping in, not so much. there are a couple people i can't stand in nijien who frequently join impromptu collabs, so it prevents me from watching much nijien.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21811490
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
>Do you enjoy solo streams getting invaded and surprise collab guests
no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21813746
Yeah, to analogize that to HoloEN it's like if Mori or Kiara kept showing up in literally everyone's streams regardless of there being an actual reason to be there or not. If you don't like Mori you're just going to get annoyed with the branch period eventually from her popping up all the time even when you're trying to avoid her.

If the streamers are transparently being butthurt little bitches that the audience does not unanimously love them all 100% equally (which is completely fucking impossible by the way) so as to try to shove the disliked ones in our faces, that can just turn off the audience to that group altogether. Feels like that's exactly what NijiEN has been doing and the Uki offcollab was the breaking point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21813887
This behavior of forcing the runts into everyone's faces is called boxpushing and is an idol culture thing. Problem is Anycolor, the supposedly totally not idols group, doesn't seem to fucking understand that box pushing does not translate to streamers, especially across gens. Boxpushing happens within gen, not cross.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Reality is people that complain
HATE who is in instead of the collab itself

azusydia fans are the ones that most complain about this "issue"
So imagine this scenario
Elira, Rosemi, Petra, Nina UNO collab
Selen, Finana, Mysta APEX collab
>They should do less collabs
change to
Elira, Rosemi, Petra, Pomu UNO
Selen, Finana, Rosemi Apex
>SUCH KINOOOOOOOOOOOO COLLLAB UOOOOOOOOOOH

[Anonymous No.]

>>21813972
lol

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like it. In Hololive streamers almost never arrive uninvited to VC and will mostly keep to chat if at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810504
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Depends on who the person is, but overall I enjoy when Niji does that because sometimes it turns to regular but interesting conversations. That's why I enjoy Niji a lot, just the simple convos they have are entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

I barely watch collabs anymore and I don't like guerilla collabs at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I don't watch them but from what I read on /vt/ it sounds terrible lmao, why do the "fans" defend it so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21822416
it's impressive how effectually you captured the entire essence of what's wrong with this board in a single post

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Yes I do, I like the spontaneity of it, I don't like streams feeling like some cold corporate stuff, I enjoy when they're having a comfy stream and ask if someone who was in the chat want to jump on vc

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
No.
Its fine on occasion but only if its a close friend who I care about and that's the thing people don't talk about.

If its something like Millie and Enna, they just work extremely well together, have been friends forever, and I like both of them. Those 2 "invading" each other is fine, but it never really happens and it would still only be good in moderation. If millie invades enna and talks for 5 minutes before leaving that's fine. If she invaded every stream for the entire stream it'd quickly get annoying because i just want to listen to enna rant.

Meanwhile I care about none of the males, as I expect most of the fans of the girls don't outside a few individuals. so any time a male invades i hate it because i don't like the person invading. But its not because they're men its because i don't give a fuck about them. they're on the same level as nina invading streams which always pissed me off because I hate nina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21822579
Go back to your hugbox general if you don't want to see people shitting on your beloved brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
>Do you enjoy solo streams getting invaded and surprise collab guests
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21822742
You're trying too hard to fit in

[Anonymous No.]

>>21822891
t. 4chan contrarian

[Anonymous No.]

>>21811303
More like he wants unbiased answers.
Anyone who isn't a fujo has long since left /nijien/ because its cancer to be in.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't you guys brag that NijiEN were SUCH GOOD FRIENDS because they kept doing impromptu collabs? What changed now?

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>>21823159
What changed is that people keep replying to falseflaggers who don't even watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

I can't really watch collabs it's just not fun. Only try to catch solo pomu, rosemi, elira streams and that's it. The second it turns into a collab, I'll test it out for a few min and usually leave, doubly as fast if a male comes in to plow the chuuba.

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>>21810318
>Do you enjoy solo streams getting invaded and surprise collab guests, or not?
No. If I open a stream, I want to watch that specific streamer alone, unless it's specified as a collab.

Let me enjoy Pomu, Rosemi and Selen without worrying some male butting in.

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>>21810318
Don't really care for any unannounced collabs or random joiners. That being said, I also think that all of the NijiEN males are massive faggots except for Luca, and I don't like seeing any of them in general besides Luca, and even in his case I only want to see him in his own stream.

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>>21822742
No dude I respect the honesty, most mouthbreathers usually aren't so upfront about not having any idea what they're talking about

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>>21810318
Depends on the game, but mostly I'm fine with it. If it's something like a story heavy game it might be annoying. If it's happy fun meme times like Sanic Adventure or Minecraft I find it pretty enjoyable. I can understand people wanting more solo streams and it is important for streamers to be able to build their own solo identity and not just be collab person, but I really do like watching a fuck ton of collabs out of fucking nowhere so I do like NijiEN.

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>>21823159
It's fine every now and then. Once it became the norm, people got tired fast, particularly with the varying levels of quality starting with Ethyria.

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>>21813972
It doesn't really work with idols either unless the underperformer is due to being new or doesn't have much of a public face. If she's just unpopular for being shit, then nothing helps.
nothing will help finana grow because she's just so bad to listen to.

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>>21823372
What's wrong with Shu? I've only seen him in collabs and he never managed to annoy me.

[Anonymous No.]

OP said nothing about males but people keep mentioning them, I guess it shows that the problem aren't the impromptu collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21822416
Fujos and contrarians just willing to eat anything they get.

But it was a big thing because early on it was a good thing, especially compared to holoen when the girls felt so awkward. How natural lazulight and obysidia collabed with each other felt refreshing. But it went from entertaining streams or things that benefit into just feeling like cheap content very quickly.

Selen apex? sure it makes sense to collab
quiz shows? yeah that needs to be a collab.
doing spicy noodles together while talking about how its been to debut a new branch of a company? yeah that's cool.
people dropping in every other song in karaoke? girls canceling their cooking stream to join vshojo golf? that's annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21811794
it sounds like you're stuck in the past. Is she still your oshi if she's doing a bunch of stuff that she knows you don't like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21813972
>Problem is Anycolor, the supposedly totally not idols group, doesn't seem to fucking understand
doesnt matter what they understand because schedules are up to the livers, only branch wide collabs like the mario kart tournament and the gameshow are mandated participation

[Anonymous No.]

>>21823862
>canceling
She didn't cancel anything, there was a whole hour with she making the dough and she joined the collab when all there was to do was wait on the pizza

[Anonymous No.]

>>21823670
males have barely been mentioned.
but yes they're a problem because the audience overlap is lesser so naturally it leads to people getting annoyed because its someone they don't care for invading the stream and making it about themselves.

its not because <male> its because i don't like them, and being a male is part of that but its not because i think he's contaminating my precious idols, i just don't care for males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21824202
People join a cooking stream expecting it to be 1:1 with chat where we could have a little zatsudan as the pizza cooks.
That's another problem with nijien and western streamers in general, there's a lack of zatsudans. people like hearing their oshi talk about things. i watch toko almost every day just to listen to her chat, she almost never plays games.
but everyone in nijiEN is constantly playing video games. things like cooking streams are one of the few times we get a "zatsudan" with the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Thing is, box pushing actually works if you like most of the people in the branch, it is when you only like half of them when it gets annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
The only acceptable surprise collab is call-in streams (including endurance call-ins like GOI/JK). All other collabs should be arranged and announced ahead of time.

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>>21824354
Enna does a fuckton of zatsudans, millie too, most of the others also do hours of talking after their gaming streams, finana sometimes talk for more hours than what she spent playing, you guys are either not looking hard enough or pretending to not see it

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>>21824626
Well that's one of the reasons I really like Enna and Millie actually. Its not that nobody does them ever, it just feels like a rarity. And its rarely scheduled as a full zatsudan, its just a side thing to the video game. Even for Enna its things like Puzzle streams that you watch to listen to her rant, not a dedicated "zatsudan" stream.
But that's basically what cooking streams and other hand streams, its something they can do while just doing a basic zatsudan. we're there for the talk not because we give a shit about the pizza she's cooking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21823159
the people that make these threads and post most replies are holoniggers falseflagging, anon

ask in the niji thread if you want actual niji fans to answer you

but I am sure you knew that already

[Anonymous No.]

>>21824354
There's a big ongoing split across the medium between the people who want zatsudans/activity streams like ASMR, cooking, or roleplay/karaoke and the people who want game streams and tune in just for that. Eventually I think it will reach a boiling point and the niches will begin to separate. I for one am absolutely fucking sick of video games (yes, even the ones I like, I have no interest in seeing a chuuba play Age of Empires like a child) and I know I'm not the only one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21823159
People I find annoying joined the branch and with this many members my suspension of disbelief is broken. It unironically feels fake now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21825091
What gave you the idea that on-stream interactions translated into real friendships in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

I only care for 7/20, so if any of the 13 show up I will tune out.

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>>21825304
Thank you for your bravery.

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>>21825261
If there's only 3 people working in a company they tend to get pretty close because there's nothing else to do all day and they heavily rely on each other. Even if they're not friends exactly they're close to each other.
But when there's 20 you usually just form cliques to the people in your immediate area.

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>>21825261
Don't put words in my mouth anon, I even used the term "suspension of disbelief" for you. People are able to enjoy fake things if they can convince themselves temporarily that it is real.

[Anonymous No.]

It 100% depends on the mood or the theme.

Vox jumps in on Nina playing FNAF? yes love it.
Ike drops in on Selen drawing Beedrills sure awesome.
Vox drops in to tease Reimu playing jump king? perfect.
Luca, Shu, Ike drop in on Petra and Elira playing Getting over it? great.
All of the colab guest drop ins besides Uki - loved them

Uki drop in - no, i hate his voice and i wanted to watch the colab so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
yes

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: people STILL mad about the cooking stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I don't mind regular collabs, at least I know who's going to be there beforehand. There's some people I don't like, so I don't enjoy people popping into a stream unannouced. It's even more annoying when the streamer stops nearly everything to spend 5 minutes saying hi just because someone is in the chat.

>streamers seem to think this is what the people want.
Huh, it's almost as if people complain about that here instead of to the streamers on twitter and in comments. It's almost as if the loud minority wanting collabs get their voices heard because they actually say something. Wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21827077
Jokes on you. I'm still mad about the off-collab.
>>21827160
Its more like youtube and twitter are echo chambers and nobody will say anything negative.
If a streamer said she wanted to focus on solo content everyone would instantly start praising her too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21811132
Jesas... i can smell the chink writing from miles away

[Anonymous No.]

>>21827304
>Its more like youtube and twitter are echo chambers
So like I just said, it's almost as if any feedback you want the streamer to see is said here instead of to their faces where they ask for said feedback. If they only see people asking for collabs and praising those collabs when they do it, they're gonna keep doing it. People do say negative things, constructive things, etc. There's just not enough of them to make a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21828797
Maybe they should actually ask for it then and not just assume you'll risk the ban for saying something they don't like or having a bunch of schizos in /nijien/ finding every post you've ever made to prove that you're not a real nijifag because you commented on kiara once.

Or maybe, get this, what if there was an anonymous way of sending feedback in a way that filters out people being complete dicks? Something fluffy and related to their established accounts that we already know how to use. Something idk, maybe like a marshmallow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21829017
Banned from where? Has anyone ever gotten banned or blocked from providing genuine feedback? It just sounds like you're scared of saying something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21829224
yes.
and regardless its still tied to my account. and whether you like it or not, people with thin skin tend to react negatively to criticism even if you're being nice about it. and i'd rather not have that negative stigma attached to me when i chat or superchat in the future.

there's a reason any valid feedback form is supposed to be anonymous anon. this isn't some advanced form of psychology. if you want honest feedback you make it anonymous, otherwise people just won't send negative feedback.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21829494
Well I tried to help, none of you better complain about collabs or streamers not doing what you want then. You underestimate the power of numbers, because for every "w-w-well I don't want to be the one to say it", ten more people are saying the same thing. And ten more, and ten more after that. Imagine if all those people said something, you actually might see some change but you're too afraid to even be that first step.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21829812
Being idealistic is the same as being dense.
Ideals mean nothing when we know reality functions differently.
And yes I did actually leave a negative comment on Pomu's off-collab because I was pissed. I'm sure it was ignored.
I would have left a negative comment on Rosemi's cookings stream, but as of earlier it was still disabled.

If marshmallows were open I would have sent a heavy critique at them as well.
In fact if there was any other feedback form I would be sending them in complaining about all the bullshit they've been doing. But there isn't so I'm left with what I've been doing. But I also recognize I'm autistic and most people won't be willing to tank their names.

[Anonymous No.]

That's not even the main issue you dumbfuck. The main issue isn't impromptu collabs because they honestly don't happen often, at least with the girls I watch, the problem is collab saturation.

[Anonymous No.]

Making so many streams reliant on your discord inside joke culture means no growth. It's stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I think there should still be a balance
If the solo stream is something that allows for multiplayer gaming like minecraft, apex, mariokart, or smash, an impromptu collab is definitely welcome

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
I don’t mind them if it’s the right setting, I liked people dropping into Selen’s beedrill streams or her long zatsudans, and I didn’t mind Ike dropping into her sadx stream because they had already talked about him helping her (which is why I was confused when so many dragoons were upset). If it’s something like a regular stream or a special stream that is more for selen and chat interaction, then I don’t really want someone coming in

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>>21810318
Streamers determine what people want by SC/bits revenue and chat, not some autists on an anonymous image board.

You think Streamers find simps and hugbox chat too supportive and fake and they come to 4chan/2chan to find out what their audience *really* thinks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
"Collabs" used to be mini events, now they are just the state of things. They have started to push me off because most of the time i dont care for anyone besides the one streamer am actually trying to watch. Its probably a nothing burger for most people but when the person i like to follow, starts to imitate or lean on others material just simply puts me off, more so when i dont have interest on the person they referencing. Its an off putting change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
They saw how much people love Hololive's surprise stream crashers and thought they could replicate it, but they didn't understand that Hololive's was very organic and there were no males involved. It's what happens when you try to copy something without understanding it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
It was fine. People need to touch grass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21811490
And you know this just barely scratches the surface of these posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21836821
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>21810318
No, I get this icky voyeuristic feeling whenever they happen. I feel like an outsider looking in. I know it sounds weird but when I watch a bunch of friends getting together having fun, I ask myself, “why am I watching a bunch of people have a good time when I can go hang out with my own friends?” I feel awkward then click off the stream, especially if I don’t watch their collab partner(s).
I guess I’m just not the target audience for the whole friend group experience NijiEN is trying to push. Why would I watch a bunch of other people having fun when I can just call up my friends and have fun myself?

[Anonymous No.]

This has been a thing since lazulight. Its collabkino. I'd rather it be this way than the forced cringe way they do it in the other tribe.

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>>21837138
Doesnt work with over 20 people and when you dont care about half of them.

[Anonymous No.]

I generally don't care since I like everyone else in EN. The only time I would care is if they were playing a single player (or anything that requires focus) and someone comes along to talk, since that detracts from the actual purpose of the stream. Besides, at the end of the day all I care about is hearing my oshi have fun, and if that means being with her friends, then I'm all for it.

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>>21810318
Generally I don't mind it but it definitely depends on the stream. I actually even really liked when they happened but when it was just Lazulight and Obsydia because I liked every member back then. Nowadays there's just so many of them that the chances of it happening during any given stream are much much higher.

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>>21810318
nijien collabs feels so ingenuine to me. I like it better when I watch the girls just do solo streams. I don't want my precious Rosemi to turn out like a leech attention whore like Nina who doesn't have any content outside of her collabing with males.

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>>21829812
the second comment in this screencap is deleted now btw

[Anonymous No.]

No males. Fuck fags and fujos, stay in your own lane.

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>>21810318
yes unless it's nina

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>>21810318
Yes. Solo streams with surprise guests are kino. It keeps them exciting and different. Nobody really wants to watch stream#101 but a surprise guest changes the dynamic. I dont watch those shows though

[Anonymous No.]

Don't like it at all but not going to make a stink about it because it seems like most people enjoy it

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>>21823135
Before the muh fujos that place was basically hlg-lite lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Only if it happens once in a while and depends on the game.
If it's often than absolutely not.

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>>21810318
Hi Pomu!!!!

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>>21810318
I dont really mind, it's thier stream not mine, if it's entertaning I watch, if it kills the mood/stops being entertaining then I stop watching. This is not an opinion you can generalize on unless you're an autistic sperg

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>>21810318
>Do you enjoy solo streams getting invaded and surprise collab guests, or not?
I don't really care? NijiEN does it more often than others but Nijisanji also has a fuckload of others that don't so even if I didn't like it I could watch someone else

>Because the streamers seem to think this is what the people want.
Or they could be doing whatever they want regardless of what the audience wants?

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>>21810318
Group totsumachis and minecraft interactions are always kino. There's a lot of solo content either way, even in an advertised collab stream you'll get a 6-hour solo zatsudan afterwards in the same stream.

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>>21838022
>i-it's genuine polite feedback i swear!
>that snarky comment
kek what a sperg.

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>>21838022
YouTube deleted it.

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>>21840825
Looks like it is YouTube's fault then.

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>>21837119
DYRB you have friends?