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Anyone else just depressed with vtubers recently?

Talk about things that have been making you sad about your oshi or vtubers that you can't share elsewhere.

>> No.21749152

my oshi cucked me with a gay guy and now i want to kms

>> No.21749286

>>21749152
Same

>> No.21749289

>>21749109
What do you feel depressed from vtubers?

>> No.21749293

The only goal I've ever had in life is drifting further away every day and my only escape from it is watching grown women pretending to be anime girls on the internet.

>> No.21749362

>>21749293
What was your goal?

>> No.21749425

>>21749109
I will never impregnate my oshi.

>> No.21749432

I found my oshi irl and proposed to her, she kicked me in the face several times, broke my teeth and called the cops
still jerking off thinking about it

>> No.21749434

>>21749109
Parasocial Relationships is not ok Anon.

>> No.21749449

I will never see Noel piss herself in her armor

>> No.21749941
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>>21749109
i was part of a pretty big event in US history last year(hint:happened during the counsel debuts)and i went from just a regular dude who watched cali to a full on shut-in piece of shit. I would litteraly not go to parties or drinking with friends just to shitpost on /vt/ or do tribalfag bullshit on nijistreams, it didnt hit me till now but what happened last year has been fucking with my head and i just feel like a hollow,bitter piece of shit. i dont even hate nijisanjii just took out my anger like a retard

i dont wanna be a miserable fuck anymore anons,i wanna move on and be a better person,any tips?

>> No.21749973

>>21749362
To become a hairdresser.

>> No.21749995

>otakmori
not reading thread

>> No.21750028

>>21749973
What's stopping you from becoming a hairdresser?

>> No.21750269

>>21749941
apparently I can't type out the commands to blackhole 4chan in your hostfile without being flagged as spam

but yeah. do that.

>> No.21750393

MY OSHI IS IN HOLOLIVE AND HAS TO WORK A 9-5 SINCE YOU FUCKS DON'T WATCH HER

>> No.21750475

>>21750393
I am not in hololive and work a 9-5 she can suck an egg

>> No.21750557

>>21749152
Pomudachi... It will be OK..

>> No.21750567

>>21750393
maybe she should live within her means.

>> No.21750594

>>21750028
i am too heterosexual

>> No.21750593

>>21749152
Feesh bros...

>> No.21750664

>>21750594
There of plenty of hetero barbers stop being an idiot

>> No.21750679

>>21750393
Maybe she should stream more than twice a week if she doesn't want to get a day job. Don't defend lazy retards for being lazy retards.

>> No.21750737

>>21749289
You know I don't really know. I'm not even that attached or parasocial with any of them I just like to watch them on my 2nd monitor while doing other things.
But honestly the whole direction the EN branch of Nijisanji has went really put me in a depressed mood, especially since I liked a few of them.

Its just another one of those things in life I guess where I enjoyed it for a little bit, but now I realize all the fans are cancer that I don't want to deal with, the thing I used to enjoy has changed from what I enjoyed to targeted a group of people I want nothing to do with, and basically once again I realize that people really just don't understand me or care about providing things I want in life. I know I'm not alone and there's other people here who feel the same way, but the fans as a whole have switched from people who feel a similar way, to a massive majority of people who want to chase us out because we don't like where the hobby has gone.

It just sucks because now I'm just sitting here wondering what I should do now. Anime as turned into isekai garbage, western fantasy novels are just really cringey to read now and I feel like I've read all of them before, I'm still drawing but that's just me fucking around on my own for a few hours a day, video games just aren't exciting for me anymore. I still do shit for work but while its good work, I just don't feel that much of a passion for it.
It just feels like there's no light in my life anymore and anywhere I find enjoyment in I just get chased out of.

It sucks.

>> No.21750762

>>21749293
based wizard

>> No.21750836

Mori trying to blur the line between real life and her avatar, not only her but most EN vtubers, is something I really don't like, people will call me anti or schizo or whatever, I don't care (I'm not hating on her, I like that she's doing well because she works so hard on her music) it just makes me sad because it does kill the "magic"

>> No.21750890

>>21750737
Wish I knew how to help, sorry

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>>21750679

>> No.21751342

>>21750393
Who is your oshi so I can explain why I don't watch them?

>> No.21751483

>>21750393
Is it Risu?

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>>21751342
>>21751483

>> No.21751767

>>21751582
She barely streams
Barely anyone is into vsinging except nips

>> No.21751925

>>21749109
My oshi's roommate confirmed the worries I had about him after a recent event by posting two vent tweets that he quickly deleted. He's been dealing with depression and a specific complex for a very long time and I knew that those would get worse thanks to that certain event. Knowing that I can't do anything to help fucking sucks.

>> No.21752026

Everything about this board has made my life worse. Nothing has actually physically impacted me, it's mostly a psychological thing. Like things just feel worse, being here.

>> No.21752060

>>21751925
Which chuuba?

>> No.21752146

>>21751767
Mori is the #3 most subscribed vtuber because most people subbed for her music so that's not true.

>> No.21752184

The fact that vtubing = livestreaming has disenchanted me from vtubers altogether.
Nobody actually enjoys watching streams, don't kid yourself, if you did then it would be the only thing open on your computer/device. People only have them open due to FOMO and wanting to be there when a clippable moment happens.

>> No.21752255

>>21749109
I joined my oshi's fanbox but lately she started to post only in the most expensive tier that I can't afford. So I started to feel that she despises me because I'm a poorfag and got depressed, so I cancelled my subscription and now I can't feel happy about her anymore.

>> No.21752274

>>21752184
I just lose interest in things quickly so I want something else to do during quiet moments

I'm not just sitting zombified in front of the tv or stroking my dick to a 2d set of tits for 3 hours

>> No.21752281

Being fan of a 2view is pain... Despite knowing the best and worst parts about them, you still love them for who they are, despite being a million miles away.

You see and read their struggles, feeling helpless when they have yet another menhera breakdown. You see how they share with you the garbage diet they live on, knowing it'll probably lead them to an early grave and knowing anything you say would compromise your fan-talent relationship with them. You know the dire medical issues that exist that they have no way to escape from, suffering silently while they put on a brave face while they stream... The best you can do is cheer them on...

>> No.21752291

Not really but man I'd be sad as fuck if ever one of the HoloEN and some from the HoloJP that I follow graduates (idc about Sana tho she rarely streams). Idk I've grown attached to them. I mean I don't even feel romantic about them and even the thought of fapping to any of them makes me sick. It's probably just because I really enjoy the entertainment they give, not really sure.

>> No.21752356

>>21750737
One piece of advice that resonated with me is to treat life like a RPG where you are constantly grinding and learning new skills, meeting new people, and striving towards a goal. I'd also make sure you are taking care of your overall health, as your physical and mental state are tied to each other.

It's good that you identified the lack of passion in your life, but nothing will ever change unless you take the reigns.

>> No.21752402

>>21750594
Who the fuck cares if you're too heterosexual? We might only live once, chase your dreams anon.

>> No.21752473
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>>21750594
just buy a miata
it's always the answer

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>>21749109
I'm depressed because my schedule doesn't let me watch my oshi, I thought it was normal but the feeling is starting to be an empty void...

>> No.21752488

Ever since I saw the HoloEN offcollab I've felt lonely. They all sound like they were having so much fun, and I'm just here inside my house never going out with friends cause none are nearby

>> No.21752590

>>21752184
I don't min live streaming, I just wish it wasn't such a daily constant thing.
I don't want daily streams, maybe a weekend one or 2, with the other days being focused on curated content. Which naturally will decrease upload frequency, but quality > quantity.

Unfortunately that's not how gaming the system works and live streams are the easiest bang for you buck.

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>>21749152
I understand, bro. They will tell you that the wound on your chest was your own mistake, caring not for the fact that it bleeds nonetheless.

>> No.21752764

>>21749109
I recently started watching this vtuber and her personality is everything I've ever wanted in a girl so every time I watch her my depression gets worse and worse because I'll never have a gf like her in my life, some days I just lie on bed all day imagining my life if I was with her, I think I may actually be mentally ill at this point, I should seek help honestly.
I'll just end up ending my life if I don't forget about her so I've been trying to avoid watching her.
I'm pathetic, I know, but being lonely for too long will do that to you.

>> No.21752824
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21752824

I miss him. It's officially been 33 days today since he's been dead silent aside from some fans who have him added on Uma Musume saw that he's been playing it. I know he's coming back since he just got added in a promo merch thing for Edengumi and he's still mentioned as if nothing is wrong, but I want to watch his streams and hear his voice. I feel a little schizo over it.

>> No.21752834

>>21751582
...Azki has to work a day job? Damn.

>> No.21752934

>>21750393
Azki?

>> No.21753050

>>21752255
Luna or Shion?

>> No.21753304
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>>21752473
Actually the most heterosexual car you can drive. Pic unrelated because I'm not from /vt/

>> No.21753332

>>21749109
My oshi's financial decision makes me sad.

Fully aware that superchats are ultimately their revenue, but seeing those money being blown like water doesn't sit well with me.

>> No.21753380

>>21753332
laplus?

>> No.21753453

My oshi started hanging out with kSON and hasn't been the same ever since.

>> No.21753458

>>21753332
Suisei

>> No.21753471

>>21752060
Izuru from Holostars. His roommate account has become a venting place at this point (though he's talked about his insecurities as a chuuba the most) and whenever I'm notified of a new post I just know that it's going to be another depressing tweet. The only thing I can do is hope for his coworkers to give him the emotional support he needs, and the one that I wish I could give him.

>> No.21753482

>>21753304
what is she doing

>> No.21753561

>>21753453
Pikamee?

>> No.21753662

>>21752184
when kizuna AI went on hiatus i came to this realization too and it felt a bit sour
vtubing has become far far less about the music, dancing, and idol part of it in modern times and now its really more like vstreaming

nobody needs to be like kizuna AI because its not necessary, you just have to put on an avatar and be funny/do random shit
i will say some corporations i think do still try to keep the idol part, like having seen holofes3 i felt a bit of happiness because concerts and performances like that were a core part of vtubing back then

is what it is though, i am entertained by current vtubers but the kizuna ai shit def was a slap in the face of how times have changed

>> No.21753680

>>21753332
Suisei is spending that money like college thrift and I'm lovin it.

Kanata used her money for some super expensive video that hardly got any attention.

>> No.21753736

>>21750737
let go of nijisanji, return to nene.
https://files.catbox.moe/d1ow8j.webm

>> No.21753788

>>21753680
Matsuri raised fanbox on her roommate account just to afford LV bag, and that is literally a waste.

>> No.21753822

>>21752764
who?

>> No.21753840

>>21753736
got a clip of her voice?
I'm already returning to the JP branches at least. I just don't like the super high pitched squeaky voices.
Towa used to be my go-to on hololive but she changed... she no longer has the deep sexy voice.
Suisei has a deeper sexier voice than her now.

>> No.21753885

>>21753471
Just treat them like a person when you can

>> No.21753980

>>21753840
I like Towa's raspy voice

>> No.21754148

>>21753380
>>21753458

I don't think spending for direct/indirect stream improvement or as stream content materials (i.e. gacha) are bad at all.

It's more of those personal splurge purchases which I wish I didn't have to know

>> No.21754243

>>21753471
I don't know his roommate nor do I watch him but maybe try to compliment him in specific and mature ways, he's the one who has underage fans who piss him off that they don't take him seriously right?

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>>21752255
I checked out Shion's fanbox today when her roommate linked to it, and saw that most of the recent posts are behind the 10k yen tier.

I thought about joining but I already have saviorfag feelings for her and I don't want to make them worse.

>> No.21754828

>>21753840
just go with okayu, I do
https://youtu.be/JPDh_qv2F-4

>> No.21755005

>>21753840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od2Gw05qCzI&t=2385s
From the clip

>> No.21755203

Honestly, the first NijiEN off-collab made me feel really fucking depressed about life in general and I ended up doing stupid stuff. I feel better than that now but I am just sort of feeling empty. I don't want to watch anime, read anything, or play anything. I tried making music again and it just made me feel angry. Everything just makes me feel fucking dissatisfied. Maybe I should just go outside and just walk a few laps around the neighborhood or something to just feel better. idk life is unappealing right now and vtubers make it feel worse especially with my oshii's stream being less quality and just have the general magic being gone. Need a small 2view at this point desu.

>> No.21755219

>>21753822
Her name is Kagura Mea

>> No.21755291
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>>21753482
You know what she's doing.

>> No.21755469

>>21753471
actually thinking about the same thing...

too bad there's nothing we can do but hope things will get better for him

>> No.21755606

>>21754243
Izuru's fans compliment him whenever they can but this issue isn't related to the underage girls in his fanbase. It's not easy to explain because even he once said that our perception of him is different from how he wishes to be seen, which forms part of this complex he's had since way before becoming a chuuba. Sadly those feelings aren't going to be leaving him anytime soon after the certain event I mentioned because they will be right in front of him. I'm aware that I can only do so much as a fan and my only option is to continue supporting him as one, but it still hurts.

>> No.21755625

>>21752146
Mori sings English songs and she streams a lot.

It's better to compare her to the only Vsinger left in Holo which is IRYS. And Irys does better than her because she streamed and acted like a Vtuber who just also puts out a lot of songs.
AZKI but most likely her contract and cover fucked her. She wasn't streaming much for the first 2 years meaning barely anyone really knew her besides her showing up in Sora stream and people who went to the concerts.

Really not much that could of been done besides Cover looking at this and not making anymore vsingers. She wasn't able to grow a youtube community since she's already well past her debut time.

>> No.21755746

one of my oshis had doxxfags finally find pictures of him and i'm worried it's going to fuck with is head

>> No.21755777

>>21755606
I'm actually not that notified with this. What certain event?

>> No.21755800

>>21750737
You do understand everything you complained about is a result of the free market allowing the most lucrative things to rise to the top right?
Don't tell me you're a commie?

>> No.21755978

>>21749941
Forget /vt/
make yourself busy
Work out
Find a girlfriend
I feel happier with Vtubers than I ever have with my ex

>> No.21756004

>>21750594
Kek, is this a thing in any third world country?

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>>21749109
Wouldn't go as far to say depressed, but Rushia's termination still really bums me out. Didn't care much for her solo content but Marine is my oshi and it hurts knowing I won't get to see them together again. I miss their chemistry. Plus I really loved what Rushia contributed to gen 3 in general. And it hurts that it's hard for both the fans and the chubas themselves to really reflect on times with her since her termination left such a sour taste. I just really wish things had gone differently.

>> No.21756301

>>21755606
Is it the feminine stuff

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>>21750594
You must be joking. You're letting that stop you?

I see swarthy, masculine arab barber dudes all the time and they're respected by their community.

>> No.21756511

>>21755777
I'll be vague on purpose because I don't want to give any lurking schizos rrat material, but the recent event is the Uproar debuts, which could potentially be affecting him for a variety of reasons that you should know if you keep up with him regularly.
>>21756301
Yes. The timing of his roommate tweets made it pretty obvious.

>> No.21756622

>>21754717
Is shion doing okay these days?
She is/was known as Depreshion at one time for a reason, I suppose

>> No.21756726

>>21756511
oh damn, I think I get the gist of it now. I can see how this gets to him.

>> No.21756787

>>21753822
telling you will just make me seem even more pathetic given her background Fauna

>> No.21756819

>>21749109
I'm depressed coz Gura doesn't do events or releasing cover songs

>> No.21756881

>>21756787
not him but now I'm laughing because you possibly being a sapling was the first thing I went to when I read your post

>> No.21756981

>>21756511
I feel bad for him. vtubing is not kind to people who have self-image issues.

>> No.21757009

>>21750393
Doesn't Ayame work in entertainment on the side?

>> No.21757082

>>21749109
My oshi used to collab with men and it was fine and professional, no one was ever mad about it. At some point she stopped and made an excuse over why which was obvious bullshit and I'm really just disappointed that she's committed to the GFE.
Everything else she does is fine and she hasn't changed otherwise, yabless really. I don't particularly want male collabs either. I just dislike the thought that this decision was made in order to make more money or that the fans who wanted her to be completely pure and untouchable won out over the people that were there because they liked her work. I hate how hard the industry has gone towards selling customers intimacy over content creation and relatable weeb interests.

>> No.21757091

>>21749109
Nah the off-collabs and holofes have been my only hopium in recent memory

>> No.21757198

>>21750594
Nah. My money's on you can't pass the licensing test.

>> No.21757229

>>21757082
Sounds like Subaru.

>> No.21757238

>>21750737
That's basically to be expected from people who are a casual fan of something and detached from the inner workings of that thing. You really shouldn't feel to bad about it.
Also you haven't been watching anime. I can tell because you said that it's full of isekai garbage. I can happily inform you that the culprit is romance and romcom. That "isekai" you complain about? It's just a backdrop for romance and romcom.
Western fantasy is a convoluted mess that has hacks like GRRM and Sanderson up front and everyone thinking that they're ones to copy.
I would say read light novels, but you would have to try to find one that is in the third person point of view because first person point of view literature is pure trash.
For gaming, you unironically have to avoid western AAA games. I'm sorry, but that's the best course of action. Once you cut out AAA shit, you'll have more fun.

>> No.21757354

>>21755746
superchat him and tell him to layoff the burger king

>> No.21757451

>>21750737
I guess the solution is to find a new hobby. I say drawing is good enough if you're consistent with it because who knows where it will take you, hopefully somewhere better. My other solution is try to touch/watch things you don't normally look at.

This one's not really a solution but maybe you should try going out for a walk sometimes.

>> No.21757528

>>21749109
Gura doesn't do anything. She still hasn't collabed with Haachama after nearly two years. She still hasn't built Atlantis. She's barely made any music.
Hololive Minecraft streams were kino when they built the portal and were finally having a lot of impromptu collabs. That quickly disappeared. We rarely see EN-JP interactions anymore.
I wasn't a huge fan of Rushia but I didn't want her to be fired and depersoned.
Yagoo won't stop tweeting about his new boyfriends that nobody wants to watch.
Nijisanji EN is ruined because of waves 4 and 5.
There's only joy in seeing certain members of Prism, Phase Connect, and Tsunderia grow. Some of them are incredibly talented and deserve much more success. They're the ones who should be in Hololive, not Sana.

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>>21757238
>anime
no that's not it and romcoms are fine, shitty self insert harems are not.
there's a few good ones out i'm sure, but i can't be motivated to watch anything anymore because everything is so low quality.
>books
also no, i still read plenty of lns and actual novels. but i've read over 1000 books and it just all blends together at this point. i can't care.
>games
nope. i branch out plenty, there's just no joy in it.
not actually my favorites, just whatever i had pushed up on my play queue and never removed.

>> No.21757670

>>21755746
Who is it anon?

>> No.21757677

>>21756881
Are other saplings also like this?

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>>21757677
Fauna is sweet and cute anon.

>> No.21757855

>>21757677
yes, honestly if I didn't know better I'd swear your post was copy pasted straight from /uuu/

>> No.21757876

>>21757354
i'm going to SC him and tell him i hope he has a very nice meal with it, how about that?
t. architect

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>>21757876
pretty based ngl

>> No.21758022

>>21749941
you mean all the lockdowns? i don't remember anything else happening last year

>> No.21758322

>>21756726
It's sad because I was looking forward to his interactions with the others and the possible new dynamics, but instead he's getting his insecurities thrown directly into his face. I wish he could be at peace with himself.

>> No.21758433

I discovered vtubers last year after I had surgery and wasn't allowed to work for over a year due to the drawbacks. I binge watched the shit out of them, got multiple oshis and started a clipping channel. The support other people gave me and the happiness of watching vtubers was amazing. But now the government has decided that I function good enough to work again and my new wage slave job starts tomorrow. The schedule is shit and I will not be able to watch vtubers anymore except for the weekend and I hate it

>> No.21758459

>>21757876
Now I know this is about Fulgur

>> No.21758508

>>21758433
welcome to hell, fellow statistic

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i really can't say i'm depressed about my oshi, but the one i had prior, i feel darkness around me anytime I look back at her. it just reminds me of a time when i was much dumber.

pic unrelated.

>> No.21758641

I just want to die.

>> No.21758653

>>21758560
I hear nene is menhera, yes, though I'm not sure exactly how besides fits of crying. I do not speak Japanese ofc

>> No.21758682

>>21758653
it is not nene, but someone else. something I did to myself and wish to never bring up.

>> No.21758889

>>21749109
things have just been shitty and i think i watch vtubers because i don't really have anything or anyone in life for me, and it's one of the few things that still consistently makes me happy. i don't membership or sc or buy merch, but i fear that a part of me has the potential to go full schizo gachikoi for an oshi who doesn't play into that at all. just hoping and i can keep my dignity and just hold myself together

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I've hated anime in general for about as long as I can remember. Mocked otaku type people for just as long. When vtubers first arrived, I said they were gay ass weeb shit. Then I found clips of my oshi (pic related) and became addicted to watching her. Now I watch various other Hololive members as well.
I still hate anime. And as I've wanted to watch more and more of Marine and Lui, I've started to consider learning Japanese, something even my weebiest of friends haven't done. Despite this, my stance on everything hasn't changed, and now I just hate myself.

>> No.21759126

>>21758022
I was a us soldier assisting in the kabul evacuations,got pretty hurt out there so im out now

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>>21749941
Time heals all wounds, anon. All you need to do is keep your chin up, acknowledge what behaviors and feelings you have that you feel are unhealthy, and try to be the better you that you want to see. It will take time, but your mind will eventually follow. And get therapy. Therapy helps.

>> No.21759549

>>21750737
same, brother.

Vtubing felt new and exciting like it was aimed directly at people like me. But then it blew up, and to get bigger numbers it will inevitably target normies. Pretty soon it will just be Ame and Ina chilling with Holostars in a hot tub like some MTV reality show. Not because I'm a unicorn, but it just feels like everything is this inevitable slide into the same exact shit.

>> No.21759671

>>21759549
Honestly I can't get into holoen but I really do hope they stay above this garbage that nijien is trying to pull

>> No.21759708

>>21750393
GOOD. Let her bust her ass like everyone else

>> No.21759723

>>21759126
lol, i completely forgot that was something that happened last year. feels like ancient history. thanks for your service though.

>> No.21759757

>>21756017
it hit me for a moment as well. i was finally easing up towards membering rushia in january after ending my luna membership. i was already big into sankisei since noel is my oshi, and i did sporatically watch peko and flare. when the yab happened, i didn't know what was going on. I literally overslept the collab with miko. By the time I woke up, there was a full blown hellscape and I didn't know what to do.

when rushia was set to be terminated, i woke up at midnight. The news just fucking bummed me. It was such a blow, yet I started to realize the issues with rushia. it hurts so much when you see the bad of someone you once liked, and now you can't seem to enjoy who they became. my wish is that she didn't implode, and she just reconciled at least. she killed her hololive career, and now she's followed by pity EOP's and dumbasses who think they're helping. it's a sad and cruel fate, and one of precaution

>> No.21759769

>>21750737
>Anime as turned into isekai garbage, western fantasy novels are just really cringey to read now
I feel you. Head over to >>>/lit/ and read some of the classics if you haven't already, there's some pretty cool stuff there.

>> No.21759844

>>21759671
i think holoEN is wise enough to not do that bullshit.

>> No.21759852

>>21759671
I want to believe they will, but with the new holostars EN and the way their reddit fanbase comments... I don't have much hope.

>> No.21759864

>>21759844
>Mori
I'm not so sure about that...

>> No.21759880

>>21753482
clearly, she's soldering more ram directly into the motherboard

>> No.21760263

>>21759208
thanks nijibro,and im sorry for all the shitposting ive done over the last year, NIJIEN is cool in my book

>> No.21760285

>>21759864
damnit i forgot about her

>> No.21760320

I'm depressed that anons keep lying about Nijisanji, I don't even care if you hate them but what's the point of spreading lies? They end up reaching the vtubers involved too

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>>21760263
Actually, my oshi isn't Pomu. Pomu is cute, but I'm a hololive unity fag. I appreciate the sentiment, though, and I'm sure other niji fans reading this will appreciate it too.

>> No.21760479

>>21749109

I wouldn't say depressed with them as a whole, but I have started to wake up from the honeymoon period since joining the fandom and realize that some of them I just find boring.

I used to try to catch literally every stream of everyone I could and now I'm down to like 2 regulars, 2 semi-regulars and the rest have fallen into the "Eh, if the thumbnail / title of a clip looks interesting and is under 5 minutes I'll check it out."

>> No.21760865

I'm fairly successful at work & the like, but I'm autistic and have few real life friends. I started watching 2views and see all these autistic girls with similar senses of humor to me that I love spending time with, but I know it is unlikely that I'll never actually meet anyone like them because I just don't have the time/privilege to just be online all the time. I just want a gf/wife so I don't die alone.

>> No.21760890

>>21760320
Pomu fucked five nijien guys in a motel in New Jersey after that off collab. This isn't even up for debate. What's the problem?

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>>21750737
My first piece of advice, ditch these boards. I still frequent it for the oshi specific threads but I too got sucked into the constant negativity threads from here and made it hard to enjoy vtubers for a bit.
Id take a break from it all and come back if you feel like it but keep your visits here sparse. you'll feel better

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I'm here from /pol/, the world is awful and I haven't been motivated or interested in anime/vtubers/vidya/hobbies for a long time. Pretty bad depression too and /pol/ made it a lot worse despite it being funny. I just want to enjoy things again and recharge my batteries. Been able to start reading and getting back into my hobbies slowly, but now I want to enjoy weebshit again.

>> No.21761938

>>21761651
This helped me quite a bit. I tend to take about a week to a week and a half break from the board every month and it's helped my enjoyment a lot. Sometimes I even take breaks from streams altogether to avoid burnout. Some streams are better with the threads but their are a lot that are just as good if not better just watching them on their own.

>> No.21761945

>>21761891
schlomo?

>> No.21762857

>>21761945
Nah Bruce

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>>21749109
I just focus on supporting my oshi on all her projects on and off of vtubing. She seems burned out and overworked sometimes but in the end she seems to be enjoying herself. Hololive brought her friends she loves and her Elden Ring playthroughs are the best streams to date. That's all any of us can really do, just support your oshi and the ones you care about and avoid this board.

Cover's shitty managers and Japan's toxic work culture don't help, I remember hearing about all the projects Pekora was doing behind the scenes that kept getting cancelled by Cover and nearly drove her insane and her manager just sat by and watched.

>> No.21763288

>>21752026
I feel you, bro. Seeing people fling shit all the time can fuck with your perception of reality. I just want to talk about chuubas to get me through this slog of a month but the fucking retards on this board cant shut up about stupid tribalist bullshit and it just makes everyone miserable.

>> No.21763533

>>21763176
i wonder how many project we've lost from shitty projects

>> No.21763636

>>21750737
I feel you anon. I don't know, but VTubing has just lost its magic. I remember feeling so hyped for Myth's debut, watching them all live and being absolutely starstruck, and since then, nothing has really given me that sort of hype and love for vtubing since. The hobby just doesn't have the soul it once had, it just doesn't feel the same anymore. I feel like this decline started hitting around Coco's graduation, something about that final concert did something to me, and I wasn't even a huge fan of her content.
Holo has lost its magic for me, there are constant stretches of chuubas playing the same game for months on end (it doesn't help having Ina as my oshi, with twelve of her last twenty streams being fucking Elden Ring) and very few holos feel entertaining anymore.
I tried to get into Niji for more diverse content, but all the drama pushed me away from watching most Nijis, outside of some of the Luxiem members.
VShojo is utterly soulless, where most of their chuubas have gone to complete shit (outside of Melody, mostly).
I'm considering the 2view pill, but I'm scared I'll grow to hate it soon enough too.
All i do now when I'm not playing vidya and doing work is coming to this board and getting into flame wars. I just feel like a cynical asshole, where I'm not even sure if I like vtubers anymore, I just come to this board out of habit and tribalfag, even though I try to stay out of bait threads.
This site overall sucks, but I can't stop coming. Everything sucks right now, I feel like I don't enjoy anything anymore.

>> No.21764132

>>21763636
>I'm considering the 2view pill, but I'm scared I'll grow to hate it soon enough too
watching 2views is a weird feeling. Their main strength is their ability to easily read all chat messages and interact with you. You can actually talk to them like a real person! But if they do well, and they grow, they'll get more viewers and they won't be able to do that anymore. So you're torn between supporting them and wanting them to stay a 2view.

>> No.21764252

>>21763636
Anhedonia.

I feel the same way just in a different scenario. I love all of HoloID and want to support them all but there's just so much shit produced out of nine people. I get to the point where I get overwhelmed and watch nothing and feel terrible about it. I love that it has also bled into my interactions IRL where now I'm getting messages asking if I'm okay because I've just shut down and stopped responding to messages for weeks at a time. What do I say? Sorry, I'm hugely mentally ill? At least when I come here we are all a baseline level of fucked to be here in the first place so I can skip all those steps.

>> No.21764384

>>21749109
Everything makes me depressed but vtubers. There's nothing else that gives me any joy.

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>>21757848
Your image made me think of this scene from Ever17

>> No.21764861

>>21749941
You got some pretty bad karma shitposting over a company you don't even hate wtf. I think you owe it to maybe pick one of the girls and watch her and her all-female content and just send her donos or member some of them. Taking your anger out on random vtubers is pretty shitty.

>> No.21765228

I don't actually watch any vtubers anymore, but I don't have any other interests so I still come here and read the threads.

>> No.21765275

>>21759208
>And get therapy. Therapy helps
Not for former military men in the US. The criminals the VA hires as psychiatrists not so secretly hate men and soldiers and will drug him with dangerous doses of psychoactive drugs and then contemptuously laugh at him on Twitter as they try to prod him into suicide. They view every veteran who commits suicide as part of their work done and any living military man as an obstacle that must be eliminated.

>> No.21765311

>>21764252
I can't even keep up with the few I watch in EN. I have no idea how people keep up with several at a time. Anhedonia is shit too. Watching a stream that you know is good and feeling nothing kills you a bit on the inside.

>> No.21765333

>>21760890
I don't mind the EN shitposts because anyone who cares to figure it out can do so and the fulgur shitposting is funny, I mean JP

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My soul is still stuck in place in February.
Time doesn't move.
I can only wait.

>> No.21765842

>>21765333
Well no one gives a shit about NijiJP. A couple of the guys have decent fanbases but the girls are all irrelevant borderline 2views.

>> No.21765873

>>21763636
>>21764252
Burnt out dopamine receptors due to instant gratification of entertainment that has been oversaturated and constantly running through your mind

>> No.21766106

I've become more numb to the experiences that I have. I am not in my head because I am usually day dreaming about some fucking scenario where I am streaming or doing something similar because I have become too addicted to this medium, or wondering about how two of the vtubers I watch are doing. Fuck, two weeks ago, I went out to dinner with a couple of friends and that was all I could think about: how two vtubers who do not know I exist are doing. I am unsure about how others feel, but it makes me feel like shit because the girls I follow all sound and seem like they'd make some really good friends or girlfriends, but the fact that they don't know I exist makes me unmotivated and sad to do anything. I don't want to fall deeper into this parasocial grave. I fear that if I do, I will lose myself.


Since realizing this, I have made some drastic to-do lists that I plan on fulfilling in the Summer and right now. I realize that one of the things that I really need to do is cut down on screen time. I realize that one of the things I miss doing in the with my friends is exploring forests and being around nature. I am planning on a trip to Washington, I have a friend there who will forest bathe with me. For now, I plan on spending time at the closest Botanical garden. I am very sensory I guess, and vtubers have forced me into a pit where I derive satisfaction from the moments they bring when in reality, I am sitting here alone, watching some actor play a character. I like vtubers, especially the two that I watch the most, but this is just unhealthy.

>> No.21766112

>>21749109
I hate that Mori being a slightly stubborn hothead, a tad out of step with traditional idol culture, and being prone to bouts of lighthearted cringe has made this place actually hate her. She might not be your cup of tea but she is not that fucking bad. She's a sweet dork but you would think she's Hitler if you believe what you read about her here.

>> No.21766459

>>21755978
The first two are still good though.

>> No.21766618

>>21765275
Marine grunt anon where did the bad gunny touch you,the VA is fucking evil but they won't kill you with drugs,itll be from severe staff neglect

>> No.21766791

>>21764252
True that, anon. I was actually diagnosed with Anhedonia by a psychiatrist, and I've been taking meds since. I feel I'm scared to really ask for help because I've been so used to being this absolute negative zone of a human being.
I don't know, I guess there's a sense of belonging here on this board because I'm with people who are just as mentally fucked in the head as I am.

>> No.21766862

>>21749109
I watched a fair bit of the Four Heavenly Kings from about a week after Ai-chan's debut to early 2018, minus Siro cause I somehow missed her completely during that time. Even on the occasion I saw stuff about chuubas between then and when I started watching again, I somehow completely blocked it out. And then as they really started picking up in the IRC channel I am active in, I was certain I wouldn't start watching them again cause I had my fill of watching livestreams between 2011 - 2013.
But then I watched some Okayu and the rest of the Gamers in late 2020 and fell hard. In the year and a half since I got back into this, I have started to feel empty when I think about all the stuff I missed from 2018 to then, especially in regards to Fubuki and the other Gamers. I know where to find archives for most of that stuff, but it often just doesn't feel the same when you weren't there. Seeing a lot of the stuff they did that they can no longer do since the holocaust hurts. I hope that once Covid restrictions are loosened permanently we'll at least get some of it back, like the 3D karaoke streams. It's also possible that they just have way more work now and we'll never get some of those types of streams again.

>> No.21766896

It makes me depressed that this board became a reddit/lgbt colony and it's entirely the mod's fault. I would I could cave his tranny skull in.

>> No.21766960

>>21766896
I wish*

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I got a pretty bad scared last year when it looks like everything starts to go wrong, from her health to her family circumstances, even her stream seems a lot more forced than it used to be. Thankfully after the break she learns to pace her streaming frequency and right now things seem to be trending up. I couldn't be any happier for her and wish her the best.
Although I do sometimes wonder if I can forgive her if she gets fired unceremoniously like Rushia, but chances of that happening are probably low. Right now it looks like she really enjoys streaming and doing the occasional 3D and sponsor streams. I'm glad I get to meet Korone and couldn't be happier when watching her streams.

>> No.21768389

>>21759104
Now imagine if you hated anime in general for as long as you can remember then you suddenly get to be a vtuber and become immensely successful at it. I guess that's why Mori is your oshi.

>> No.21768407

Just created a calendar file on pc to track my meds because I always forget if I took them or not and then get all schizo about double dosing.
it's not even a big deal but fuck I'm retarded

>> No.21768517

>>21766896
it all went to shit when "doxing," aka showing pics of their roommate/VA, became bannable. it's not illegal, why is that banned?

>> No.21768652

>>21759104
Kill yourself already cancerous piece of shit

>> No.21768806

Honestly, if you're still watching holoEN, nijiEN, vshojo then no shit you're "depressed". Fucking hell get on board slowpokes we've all been watching EN indies and small corpos for over a year now.

>> No.21769047

>>21749941
Get on bike sissy

>> No.21769302

>>21763176
how does it feel to support an oshi who's a literal whore? Like, what goes through your mind?

>> No.21769478

>>21749941
Why is it always deadbeats? Jesus...

>> No.21770180

>>21749109
i wouldn't say i'm depressed, but vtubers have lost their novelty for me. i'll pop on a stream if i need background noise, but otherwise, i don't go out of my way to watch anymore.

>> No.21770355

>>21769302
I'd say there's a difference between someone who's trying to be genuine about themselves in front of their audience and someone who acts kind and decent on-stream while actually being a cunt to everyone off-stream and fucks anyone who shows them attention and has a decent bank account.

>> No.21770562

>>21749109
I found out my brother is a Vtuber on Twitch and of course he uses a female model. I already hated Vtuber culture on Twitch but now I'm thinking about quitting this hobby as a whole.

>> No.21770940

>>21770562
do your duty as a brother and fuck him straight while he's cosplaying

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>>21756622
Still very depressed. It's definitely gotten worse since the start of the year. She laughs a lot on stream, but behind mengen and on her roommate socials it's mostly depression diary posts. Or she'll start a stream after weeks of silence with an offhand comment about how she hasn't felt like living, and then laugh it off.

>> No.21771708

>>21749109
Started a new job at a tech company as a dev... got no time to do anything (I can't even watch clips or keep it up with my oshii streams)

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>>21757677
Yes, I am you, many saplings feel this way.
I am not delusional enough to think someone like Fauna would fix all my problems, but having someone half as sweet as her in my life to dote on, care for, support, and protect would make it worthwhile and let me channel myself anf my goals to be a better person for her. I want to be the person someone like her vents to, to be the rock she can dump her insecurities on. I want to both shield her from the world but also give her the strength behined her to conquer all her challenges.
I want to carry her burdens to give my life purpose.
I would do it all to be able to bask in her warm, bubbly and adorable personality.
Every single thing she has talked about and revealed, from having nerdy hobbies like D&D, collecting fonts for some reason, to always wearing skirts and tights instead of pants has essentially not only matched with the ideal partner I dreamed up, but gone so far beyond in that she is the person I didn't know I wanted in my life so badly. Its a punch in the gut everytime I hear her voice but I cant help but watch more. Its even worse as I have a few other problems that keep me awake at night with nothing to do but think. I just want to sleep off these feelings and be numb again.
I likely sound pathetic as hell but I can't help it.

>> No.21772472

>>21771228
Man that sucks. I wonder what will end up breaking her free of depression, if she ever does. I wonder if there is even a specific cause, or if it's just there and she hasn't found a way to get rid of it yet.

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>>21750594
How do gay bigots get their hair cut? Do they need to suck dick to get their hair done?

>> No.21772953

>>21749109
Rushia. Do I need to say more?

>> No.21773763

>>21768652
Very edgy, anon.

>> No.21774534

>>21772356
I wouldn’t say all of them, but a lot of my problems come from being lonely to begin with

>> No.21774549

>>21753840
Not sure what you don't like about it. Simply the pitch? High pitch feeling fake? Is mature voice ok even if it's higher pitch? (Such as Lamy?) Because there are many good hags in Hololive. Try Botan or Lui

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>>21749152
find a better oshi

>> No.21774806

>>21757082
this is moronic thing to be sad about
if her fans didn't want it and she wasn't particularly keen on it in the first place I see no problem with avoiding males
admit the simple fact that people watch vtubers for parasocial relationships first and foremost everything else is a cope

>> No.21774950

>>21774806
The typenl of parasocial matters. For some of them it's a bigger deal than others to hang out with men.
Some of us want to see a girl act naturally, so the more she's blatantly filtered by corporate mandates the more we feel like she's just putting on an act.

>> No.21774995

>>21765842
this has to be satire

>> No.21775127

>>21774950
there is no corporate mandate rehardiy collabs, it's all the girls choice
if she is really your oshi I would think you would respect her choice
also I don't really get what is unnatural about this

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I know she's not really well liked on this board, but I really miss Rushia. She's my favorite. I know her roommate is making another channel, but it likely won't be the same...

I miss her, bros...

>> No.21775470

>>21757855
I guess saplings are just very needy

>> No.21775607

>>21753482
her best

>> No.21776018

I'm gonna sound like a hipster, but vtubers have become mainstream and lost their novelty. They've just become normal streamers to me. Partly because I've simply watched too much vtuber content during the covid years and because there are SO FUCKING MANY vtubers these days. It's like I'm burned out on them or something, I dunno. I still follow my oshi, but don't feel like watching much else honestly.

>> No.21776194

>>21776018
I think western vtubers are just normie streamers, they don't try to do anything interesting.
Even clips of the EN vtubers are just clips of them shouting or doing stupid shit a normal streamer does. They never do cute funny things like the little skits the JP branches do and don't even inject an ounce of creativity.

>> No.21776339

>>21751148
towa baby

>> No.21776353

>>21757547
Get meds, your brain is broken. Otherwise find a hobby that doesn't involve consuming content

>> No.21776414

>>21776194
It's interesting because you'd think with the increased competition they'd have to try harder to stand out etc, but instead it's like everyone got lazy and stopped caring. Bizarre. I guess they figured out that simps and whales would give them money regardless?

>> No.21776760

>>21776414
That's honestly it.
Niji and holo don't need to work. They're in the brand and get 500k subs just for slapping hololive in their name. Simps will simp even of they cuck them live on stream.

The small corpos are the only ones even trying but even they're limited because they want to pander to the same viewerbase as niji/holo which is just /v/tards

>> No.21777061

I'm saddened people don't realize that my oshi is way better than their oshi.

>> No.21777184

>>21777061
Who's your oshi? Inb4 Vei.

>> No.21777188

>>21756787
That's how we all feel, bro.

>> No.21777328

>>21753822
You're not even the same Anon. Completely different writing style lol.

>> No.21777342

>>21777184
I don't have an oshi kek

>> No.21780457

the last few years as the changing world has changed my mind on many things in life i've felt myself lose my connection with most people around me.

vtubers were there when i needed something to fill that hole, but i've let that hole erode the soil around it to the point where there's very little there anymore.

all my favorite vtubers might as well be as real as anyone else in my life at this point. everything is empty and nothing matters.

>> No.21780840

>>21769302
Not the poster but it’s pretty cool that I’ve seen her butthole

>> No.21781918

i feel like some of them put on a happy face for the stream

>> No.21781988

>>21753482
Burning her hands

>> No.21782694

>>21777328
NTA but i've used several writing styles /here/ cause i'm a total menhera. Keeps people on their toes.

>> No.21783630

>>21777188
Well then I’m glad saplings are all equally miserable for that

>> No.21784292

>>21750594
This is the funniest fucking post in this board

>> No.21784699

>>21784292
"fellas, is it gay to have a profession?"

>> No.21785163

>>21749152
What happened? Fish revealed to have a bf or just another rrat?

>> No.21785316

>>21785163
Pomu and Finana announced offcollab together, but during offcollab, Uki showed up with no prior warning. Some were rather miffed by this.

>> No.21785712

>>21785316
>offcollab
Thanks anon.

>> No.21786126

>>21750737
>western fantasy novels are just really cringey to read now and I feel like I've read all of them before
you still haven't read "A Practical Guide to Evil" then.
It's a modern day underground masterpiece.

Also you need to get friends.

>> No.21786602

>>21752184
maybe the clipfaggots were onto something kek

>> No.21786640

>>21758653
Nene isn't menhera. She overworked herself to the point of developing extreme stress symptoms which included depression. She took a break and recovered from it, and when she came back she told us what's going on just so her fans know what's up, and she's back to normal now. But the clipfaggot OtakMori made a clip which painted her as chronically depressed, and now clipwatchers think Nene is depressed all the time now as like her defining trait.
>fits of crying
it was just that one time when she cried due to her severe stress - a normal reaction considering what she was going through. girls have also cried when their pet cats died; is that menhera too?

>> No.21787350

>>21786126
>Also you need to get friends
Don't we all? I mean this is the depression thread of the /vt/ board of 4chan. Can't get much more lonesome than this.

>> No.21787508

>>21757082
What makes you think the reason is BS when that's the general direction of Holo, and she said as much on mengen?

>> No.21788481

>>21750594
You've never been to a latino/black barbershop and it shows.

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I worry that I might not be able to feel love.
I don't want to come off as edgy or anything, it's just that I don't think I've ever felt it, I don't know what is supposed to happen to me.

I've had plenty of gf's but I never loved them, per se, I just went out with them almost like a routine.

I'm still very young so I'm waiting for time to change me, for now all I do is project onto my oshi.

>> No.21791021

>>21749109
Seeing Mori getting a contract with fucking Universal Music Japan despite her hating Vtubers and only applying to Hololive as a joke while countless other Vtubers, including many from Hololive itself, aren't half as successful as she is is making see red from anger and indignation.
That Suisei was part of the announcement stream was specially poignant considering how much Suisei worker her ass from lower than low to actually finally get to be Suisei and yet somehow this damn wigger somehow manages to net such a contract before she does and as the cherry on top plays second fiddle to her during the announcement stream of hers. She has to celebrate the undeserved success she should be the one getting.
It's so fucking unfair. I hate it so much. Why do people like that are always the ones blessed?
I envy her so much too. It's killing me inside that such a horrible person who does her best to ruin the nice things she's got and doesn't appreciate them just keep getting more and more while I'm just a worthless nobody posting here about how much I hate her for all this. I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it.

>> No.21791049

>>21749109
No, I treat this board like the den of lies that it is, so I still enjoy watching vtubers.

>> No.21791448

>>21773763
I'm serious. Alternatively, tell me where you live and I will do it.

>> No.21791545

>>21753453
Unless this is someone other than Pika, all I can say is you must not have been her Oshi very long because nothing she does these days is new or unexpected. The only thing that's changed for Pikamee is she now has the money and clout to do the shit she's been saying she's wanted to do since like, year 1.

>> No.21791584

>>21749109
Depressed because twitch steamers ruined vtubing, depressed because Nijien just cant keep it in their pants, Seething every time i see Calli friend gourp on my time line, seething every time i see that fake bitch pretending she cares. Ssething seeing "pure" vtubers be corrupted by whores.

>> No.21791810

It's really disheartening to see people hate on strangers based on rumors and out-of-context screenshots and quotes. So many people here just sort of act like people can only ever have one opinion on any topic, and that the opinion never changes, and it's just kind of sad to watch their autism spiral into misanthropy.

>> No.21792205

>>21791021
Life is extremely unfair anon. The worst people always seem to get the most rewards. My suggestion is to do your bible reps and realize this life is just a fleeting test and none of this worldly crap matters in the end.

>> No.21792564

>>21791584
I'm right there with you anon

>> No.21792921

>>21790686
No person never changes anon. Love isnt the same for everyone so dont let the popular socially accepted form make you think its the only valid one.

>> No.21793019

>>21749109
Nene doesn’t have depression anymore. That hasn’t been a thing since like December. Stop.

>> No.21793218

>>21793019
she's depressed because she can't easily satisfy all her husbands

>> No.21793421

>>21749109
I gave all my energy to my indie oshi.
I'm literally in the worse state than before i met her.
I stopped watching her recently. I didn't stopped subbing, but i can't imagine awkwardly returning either. But i guess i did my goal anyway, i supported her until she got more viewers that are doing what i did or maybe even more.
It's pathetic to acknowledge myself as gachikoi, but i wish i could talk to her not as chuba-viewer, after she decides to graduate. Never will happen though, life is not like that.

>> No.21793631

The lizard part of my brain isn't happy about Calli getting the label deal. I'm not sure why, it's like I want her to be happy enough to be Calli, but miserable enough to not be happy outside that, which is clearly a bad stance.

>> No.21793778

>>21791021
I choose the "Be careful what you wish for" cope.

>> No.21793918

>>21749109
I haven't been able to watch my oshi consistently at all because I let myself.get dragged into shitposting on other boards (/a/, /v/, /vg/, etc.) and I waste my days and nights in those shitty boards instead of going to sleep or watching my oshi I have other issues that contribute to this too but I'm working on them

>> No.21793925

>>21793019
Depression doesn't just disappear

>> No.21793975

>>21793778
How is that a cope?

>> No.21794018

>>21793975
Because in reality I would want my oshi to be in the same situation.

>> No.21794042

>>21794018
I don't understand what you are trying to say at all.

>> No.21794193

>>21794042
Sorry, yeah, that is kind of a few layers of obfuscation. I mean that, we don't know if Mori getting everything she wants really means that she'll be happy. We can only judge based on what we see from the outside, we don't know that it's everything she dreamed. Sure, she gets a lot of success but we also have a history of a lot of people who are very, deeply unhappy in similar situations.

So I'm coping that way, but in reality, if I saw my oshi that happy with seeing her dreams realized I wouldn't hesitate to cheer her on.

>> No.21794364

>>21794193
Even if she's unhappy with how she made it she still made. In fact, that just makes it worse since there's tons of people out there who'd kill to make it that way and yet she's ungrateful about her success because "it's not success the way she wanted it".

>> No.21794564

>>21761651
>ditch these boards
absolutely not. if not for this board I would've never discovered the truth about some vtubers I used to like

>> No.21794622

>>21794564
and you would have been happier for it, anon

>> No.21794733

>>21759852
>I don't have much hope
me neither, so I unfollowed them

>> No.21794788

>>21794622
truth is more important than feelings

>> No.21795031

>>21794788
i think for many things, that's true. family and close friends, or workplace troubles, or a certain public health crisis. but when it comes to pretty anime people you use as escapism, maybe blissful ignorance isn't so bad.

>> No.21795831

>>21759104
So this is what a True Deadbeat™ looks like.

>> No.21796265

I still miss Coco.

KSon just really isn't doing it for me. I know it's stupid since it's obvious but part of her appeal to me was her design (orange hair big booba dragon girl is top tier fuck you) and her collabs with other hologirls. Now it's just gone.

Every collab she's done so far has been pretty average and nothing as good as the older days has impressed me.

Also if Goodsmile announces Gen 4 Figmas and Nendoroids without Coco I will be more upset.

>> No.21796340

>>21766112
Someone post the collab pasta

>> No.21796443

>>21766112
>all this cope
>muh hitler
Go back

>> No.21797669

>>21791021
If you actually believe this, you should get off this board for your own mental health (and also you're clearly a threadreader)
Even though Mori didn't take vtubing seriously when she applied, that doesn't make her Universal Music contract was undeserved. She literally uprooted her life to move to Japan to become a rapper and paid out of pocket to produce her music, even before earning vtuber money. And it's apparently that she spends a lot of her time working on music and animation when she's not streaming... to the point of constant sleep deprivation. She talks about how thankful she is for her audience and her vtuber friends all the time.
And besides that, it's not like being the most earnest vtuber idol in the world means you should have a fucking recording contract...
I get that you antis are jealous that a cringey femcel that used to browse 4chan somehow managed to follow her dreams and be successful, but that doesn't mean you have to seethe. It's not good for you or anybody really. Cool it with the envy or stay worthless.

>> No.21798404

>>21797669
>but that doesn't mean you have to seethe
Why not? If they're greener than hulk out of envy let them let it out.
What else is this taiwanese basket weaving forum for if not for things like that?

>> No.21799543

>>21791021
what is so hard to understand, have you not thought for a second that the fact that she is the only vtuber wigger is the main reason? To me if any other girl that knows how to sing try to act black they will love it to give them a chance, stop assuming big names in the music industry mean anything about quality, specially in the modern age
>>21797669
>femcel
if you genuinely believe this exists I can only hope your life is good enough so that you keep being this delusional about female reality, they certainly get some drawbacks but be absolutely sure they can never be incels

>> No.21799685

>>21799543
Femcels are literally just unbearable women, they can still get fucked but who the fuck would want to put up with such shit attitudes. Not even your typical simp would put up with them

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>>21750594
Retarb

>> No.21799798

>>21799685
And yet here we are with a board full of people doing just that for Mori

>> No.21799814

>>21799685
>Femcels are literally just unbearable women
Nigga what?

>> No.21799837

>>21749941
>i dont wanna be a miserable fuck anymore anons,i wanna move on and be a better person,any tips?
Find a goal and focus on completing it just so you can tell yourself you set a goal and completed it.
Something like cooking or working out in a specific way, or stopping a bad habit like drinking or smoking.
Also remember that you aren't the same person you were 5 years ago and won't be the same person 5 years from now, don't beat yourself up over something in the past just make an honest effort to change something you don't like

>> No.21799873

>>21749152
I was hurt but I'm mostly over it now, simply because Uki is so much of a fag theres no way anything happened.

>> No.21799915

>>21799873
This is called cope, anon

>> No.21799937

>>21799915
I don't see how its cope when looking at it through an entirely logical lens leads to my conclusion

>> No.21799993

>>21757547
The point of games is to play them with people.

>> No.21800027

>>21799937
Because you know it's not the truth

>> No.21800053

>>21800027
No I do know its the truth, if anything it sounds like you are the on reaching not me

>> No.21800146

The mood around VTubers has just felt a bit shit lately. Leaving aside the utterly miserable period we had with Rushia's betrayal and the new NijiEN boys being worse than even council it just feels like we haven't had much positive having in the community. Every week there's a new yab, a new complaint, news about our chuubas acting shitty and things aren't looking much better going forwards.

>> No.21800207

>>21800146
Outsiders have infected vtubing too much and it's on the decline now just like everything else they infect.

>> No.21800240

>>21800146
hate to be that anon but times were legit better when it was just contained in a general on /jp/,worst thing we had to deal with was 2HU wizards crying

>> No.21800335

>>21753304
Lmao

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>>21800240
we wlil never stop crying

>> No.21800508

>>21799798
putting up with as in living with that attitude, not watching it for at most 10 hours a week. Though menhera are not much better, they cling to what they perceive as their ideal man just as much as an incel clings onto what their ideal woman is. Refusal to adapt, low EQ and an incredibly low amount of social contact creates these things.

>> No.21800603

>>21800508
Doesn't matter.
If she's gotten someone to fuck her then she's by definition not a femcel.
In fact, says a lot about how even women like that can go and find tons of people willing to fuck her.

>> No.21800712

>>21755219
Oh damn, sorry to hear that. I can see why you might like her.

>> No.21800754

The magic of EN vTubers is gone for me and has been for a while. Stuff like the Hololive offcollab and Fes breathe life back into it temporarily but the day to day stuff is just stagnation. Maybe I expected too much like actual kayfabe instead of Twitch thots with s gimmick just used for jokes.

I wish I could understand Japanese because Pekora is a legit entertainer I think I wouldn’t get tired of.

>> No.21800767

>>21749109
Watching collabs is fun until the thought passes through my head that they are having fun with friends and I never had friends.

>> No.21800827

>>21800754
Why are nousagi like this?

>> No.21801081

>>21749109
fun fact, as someone who occasionally lurks this board, i've noticed that whenever i start checking this board on the regular it sucks out all the fun i get out of watching vtubers
whenever i stay away from this place it's way more fun

>> No.21801183

>>21759104
Are you me?

>> No.21801348

>>21749109
I had known Fubuki since 2018 and only started watching vtubers June last year and she was my oshi. She suffers from chink spam and occasional antis like the recent Sekiro "yab". And I gradually find her boring partly because she doesn't interact much with chat thanks to the spammers, and also her style is not the most interesting. What's worse is that today chinks still hate her because of some fake accusations and call her by derogatory terms, I hate being from the same country as them.

t. Zhang

>> No.21801412

>>21801081
Oh, kinda like /v/ or /a/, huh. You fuckers suck.

>> No.21801417

>>21763636
>VTubing has just lost its magic.
You've put words on the feeling I've had for a while. While it was a little after Coco's graduation that I first noticed it, looking back that does seem to be the time it started.

I've noticed a degradation of the Hololive community that I think can be blamed to that (since she was a major connection between the western fandom and JP talents, and with her weekly shitpost reviews gone the EN fandom no longer has much reason to care about the details of the JP talents). But you've got me wondering how much of vtubing's other (apparent) decay can be attributed to her leaving, and how much is just a coincidence. Or is it the other way around, and Coco's graduation was the first major symptom of an escalating rot?

But yeah, I do feel vtubing, or at least Nijisanji and Hololive, has become less magical and more samey since mid 2021. The last time I got any hype for a new debut was Luxiem. I hadn't the energy in me to pay any attention to Noctyx, Uproar, or ID 3. Whereas before I would check clips daily almost religiously, I can hardly ever be bothered. Sometimes I put a stream from one of the more comfy (usually JP) chuubas on in the background to relax but I'm not really paying attention to them.

I've made guesses as to what happened. Part of it seems that everyone seems so damn busy with Important Corporate Projects nowadays, especially in Hololive. Spontaneous interactions in minecraft and casual events planned among friends that aren't part of formal established groups seem to happen rarely nowadays compared to 2020 and mid-2021, mostly it's just zatsudans and long game streams that blend into each other.

>> No.21801703

>>21770562
Go top him, anon.

>> No.21801844

>>21801417
Cover also missed a major opportunity to connect the JP and EN talents by muzzling Coco after the Taiwan yab and blocking her collabs with EN

>> No.21802064

>>21749109
No matter how many doxfags I report, no matter how many antis I humiliate, no matter how much financial support I offer and counter-rrats I meme, no matter how much encouragement I send and how much love I feel, she will never even acknowledge me as a friend for I bear the Mark of the Audience.

>> No.21802290

>>21797669
the whore didn't deserve anything
her music and attitude are straight up trash

>> No.21802440

>>21801844
that's a good thing
HoloEN should be axxed entirely

>> No.21802555 [DELETED] 

>>21802064
Get a fucking life.

>> No.21802594

>>21791584
>time line
Twitter is awful man. That could also be contributing to your depression in all honesty

>> No.21802602

>>21802555
Read the OP, jerkwad. This is the depression confession thread.

>> No.21802693

>>21801412
/a/ a is much more tame and normie-fied than in the endless 8 era. you wont really see insane schizo meltdowns like here unless its a cunny thread then its full pedophilia

>> No.21803029

>>21802693
Funny how you call out /a/ for being normified while you unironically use the word pedophilia. Kill yourself retarded normalfag.

>> No.21803180

>>21803029
Spoken like a triggered pedophile

>> No.21803284

>>21799873
Women want to seduce their gay friends so badly that if he's even 10% straight it happened

>> No.21803426
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21803426

It's not really depression (at least I think it isn't)
But perhaps more of a feeling of curiosity and perhaps

I sometimes wonder what it's like to be her.
She seems sweet, very lovable and also soft-spoken. She did admit that she has low blood pressure during her recent broadcast (hence the reason why she couldn't do endurance streams)
But it was understandable.

For me, I just want to get to know more about her world and why she is happy.

Oh and before you ask:
I can't say for sure........but with her sweet and loveable personality, there is a possibility that she *might* have a boyfriend

If that is the case, that is totally fine.......and I would be happy for her if that were the case.

Perhaps, for me, I was hoping that I could hear from her about:
-What's it like to be her?
-How she is able to be so vibrant?
- What makes her so amazing?

I'm afraid to ask this in /V7/ because I know some people may make fun of me........but I long for the day that she could personally tell me her stories and her adventures as well.....

P.S.
Perhaps, maybe I should become a streamer myself so that I would be able

>> No.21803473

>>21750664
>>21752402
Sleep with homo is the only way to promote yourself in that business, otherwise you will be a forever local barber. Similar to Modern artists need to sleep with Jews to sell their arts for high price.

>> No.21803514

>>21803426
*personally get to know her and maybe she can narrate her stories and the vibrant memories that fill her life with so much warmth and color =)

>> No.21803641

>>21800207
isn't that a good thing because we get less of these dumbasses as a result? they get back to being normal lives, and we have maybe some older guard come back. but we will never get back the pre-2020 stuff for hololive and niji. that is forever lost

>> No.21803714

>>21803641
Fuck no it's not a good thing. They destroy it and everything good about it then move on to the next thing. A literal cancer.

>> No.21803745

>>21803714
i know that. they're scummy. the way how holoEN is kinda stagnant is a good example, while holoJP is pretty strong just shows the lack of care. they've been getting fucked over from those people.

>> No.21803842

>>21799873
I don't care if nothing happened, but I'm still pissed he ruined the off collab and anyone thought it was a good idea to invite a man into a collab that was advertised as 2 girls hanging out in a hotel room.
Just the simple idea that this plan went through their brains and nobody thought that hey, maybe the people watching this off-collab for 2 girls aren't going to enjoy a surprise man popping into it, is enough that I lost all faith in their ability to provide content I wanted.

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>>21759104
>Deadbeat
>Hates everything anime and otaku culture
Oh wow who could've guessed

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>hololive has gotten too mainstream, losing the charm of finding this niche group of idols and affecting the content they put out
>niji is niji
>all other corps are too dumb to handle their talents or are straight up black companies
>the two indies that i support the most are doing out of necessity but they still try their best to entertain their 30-50 ccv, not considering they'll get affected by the vtuber bubble burst
Sometimes I wonder why get into this hobby at all if it was gonna end up like this

>> No.21804257

>>21800603
Every woman can find someone, no matter how fucked in the head, awkward, or ugly they are. It's not even a case of them lowering their standards. A plain Jane or a landwhale can easily score a well adjusted 7/10 effortlessly. It's genuinely disgusting

>> No.21804942

>>21804203
Out of necessity? What do you mean?

>> No.21804966

>>21758433
That's a rough transition

>> No.21804971

>>21803180
Seethe more at drawings, normalfag.

>> No.21806116

>>21802290
Do they have mirrors where you're from?Go get a record deal babe, then we'll talk.

>> No.21806131

Thanks for the thread OP, helped vent up and find out there are anons just as sad as me

>> No.21806261

>>21804257
I'm sure you could too, you'll just have to go below plain Jane and landwhale.

>> No.21806522

I haven't gotten laid or even cuddled with anyone in almost five months. I'm in an LDR with someone else who's a virgin. We're both coping with vtubers. We barely talk anymore. He's busy with work and I'm a disabled NEET whose life prognosis is grim. We're holding on for each other, but I'm worried that when we're able to meet, we'll already be broken. I'm sure we'll still love each other, but I wish we met in a better timeline. At least we can watch our oshis together, when the day comes.

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