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Is there an actual future for Vtubers? You sure this isn't going to fall off in the next 2 or 3 years?

What's going to happen to them when they're gone?

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>>216178
>Is there an actual future for Vtubers?
no
>You sure this isn't going to fall off in the next 2 or 3 years?
it will
>What's going to happen to them when they're gone?
they will put their face over fruit and do as god intended

>> No.216244

>>216178
We've already seen the height of their popularity. They won't get as big but they won't go away.

>> No.216261

Probably not, if I'm being honest. It only took off because most people were pussies who were too afraid to go outside last year.

I think the only ones left will be mostly the corpos and most of the indies (JP or EN) will die off due to emerging copyright laws.

>> No.216285

>>216178
i love tanks bros

>> No.216313

Anyone who hasn't built a significant enough base before the pandemic is officially over is screwed.

>> No.216364

Not sure about other agencies let alone indies, but Hololive had strong overseas following even pre Covid. It will recline or stagnant, but I doubt they become irrelevant, especially chuubas with cult like fanbases like Kiara or Rushia

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>>216203
Peared

>> No.216441 [DELETED] 

No, Vtubers will be dead within 2 years.

>> No.216497

>>216178
Why worry about a future we cannot control, enjoy what we have now. These channels are entertaining us and we're giving the people behind them support. Should vtubing end as a trend then the talented people who did it bring those talents to other mediums.
Also fuck you for that image.

>> No.216563

They have probably gone past the biggest rush now, but will forever stay as a viable alternative to traditional streaming.

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>vtubing goes back to being small and comfy
>all the grifters leave
>people have to put out actual quality or have actual quality to stay afloat
This is supposed to be a bad thing?

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>>216402
>>216203

>> No.216735

>>216203
peared

>> No.216849

>>216178
people were saying the same shit when these came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Gb571RE_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NasyGUeNMTs
and somehow, the market is bigger than ever. it's not going away anytime soon.

>> No.216932

>vtubing has been going for 4 years now
It's here to stay, probably

>> No.216975

>>216178
>Is there an actual future for Vtubers?
In Japan yes. West nope. it's a passing fad.

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>>216285
Tanks bro

>> No.217031

>>216178
Eventually all the bandwagoners and grifters will leave once they realize they aren't actually making quick money like they expected they would.

Hopefully at that point it returns to how comfy it use to be 8~ months ago.

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>>216203

>> No.217099

>>216178
vtuber is just another "format" for video content, like streaming with/without a mic/webcam/avatar in the corner. it'll die when streaming dies

>> No.217108

Western game streaming is oversaturated and stagnant, vtubers will be a breath of fresh air

>> No.217111

Its gonna fizzle out, like when every motherfucker was doing a 'podcast'. But as long as there are streamers, there will be vTubers

>> No.217174

gonna go against the general sentiment of the thread here, I expect the quality of the avatars to go up, better facial capture, and they'll become more expressive, which will attract more people

>> No.217180

>>216178
i mean, you have streamers since 2010 still streaming

Will Vtubing lose a large portion of their viewership once COVID 19 stops being milked? of course
Will Vtubing die entirely? no

>> No.217250

The only truth in the world is that I will follow my oshi wherever she goes as long as she has any form of public presence.

>> No.217273

>>217180
This is incoherent since the subcounts are steadily inclining while lockdowns are basically over.

>> No.217283

>>217273
sub bots

>> No.217308

>>217273
1) "Bought" subs
2) Lock down is very much not over. Germany is actually tightening its grip, and here in the USA apparently NOT having the coof and being inoculated doesn't mean shit

>> No.217349

>>217308
>apparently NOT having the coof and being inoculated doesn't mean shit
this is just politicians not willing to give up the basically limitless power we have granted them over a virus with a 99% survival rate
which is why they should be purged

>> No.217364

>>217273
I haven't kept up with youtube policies but why does everyone keep insisting for viewers to subscribe to their channel in recent months?
Does it influence the money they earn or something or is it just "playing the algorithm to be on the front page"?

>> No.217449

>>216285
Sensha vtuber when?

>> No.217551

>>217364
Kind of the former. Higher subs will attract better sponsors. it just kinda matters but the views and shit are what's really important.

>> No.218253

>>217364
People are more likely to subscribe when they are reminded that it's a thing they can do, especially while they're still feeling presumably positive emotions after watching your content.
People who are subscribed see more of your content and are thus more likely to watch more.
Content that gets interacted with a lot gets recommended more often to new people.
And obviously the more people you have watching your content, the larger your potential earnings.

This isn't new, this is literally how YouTube has been functioning for years. YouTubers reminding their viewers to "like, comment, and subscribe" is a meme because a lot of YouTubers actually do say it, because it actually works.

>> No.218283

Who cares

>> No.218383

>>216178
Like the guy above me says who cares Im enjoying it. Once if it goes away(if it does) I will just find a different way to cope.

>> No.218486

>>216178
We get six packs, a decent job, and a girlfriend. What else?

>> No.218531

Vtubers are just streamers with an anime avatar. As long as those two things are popular they should be too. Anime has done nothing but increase in popularity since it's introduction to the western market, and the popularity of streamers has a fairly good track record despite not being around as long.

>> No.218551

>>217031
If that were true, there would be no more Hololive!

>> No.218605

Computer generated characters are the future of entertainment. Why pay a human actor who'll get sick, grow old and inevitably die when a studio can rent out a CGI model that will always be healthy, young and beautiful to star in the latest computer generated Hollywood blockbuster?

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>>216178
Haha fuck no

>> No.218615

people have been saying shit about streamers for 10 years

>> No.219272

>>217174
This. It takes some time to get used to the jankiness of 2d/3d avatar, especially if you aren't familiar with weeb shit

>> No.219443

I thought it would die at first but it's not fundamentally any different than regular streaming and that isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It's literally just that but safer and appeals to weebs.

>> No.219479

Hololive is pretty clearly sucessful enough that its its probably gonna be successful as long as weeb culture is, and weeb culture is becoming kinda accepted now in the west.

I would probably say that projekt melody and codemiko are popular enough that their gonna be like any other creator.

Independents are gonna struggle but so is anyone starting from nothing these days.

My guess would probably be that it ends up with Vtubers forming collab groups and it becoming more like "people need to get into an established group to get big"

>> No.219557

>>217283
>>217308
Youtube culls botted subs frequently. Twitch on the other hand doesn't care about view or follow bots as long as it isn't too obvious.

>> No.219660

>Is there an actual future for Vtubers?
Yes.
>You sure this isn't going to fall off in the next 2 or 3 years?
I suspect it will fall off the second WuFlu restrictions disappear and people aren't stuck indoors with nothing to do. Honestly, it might fall off by this summer.
It will shrink, but it won't go away. The best talent will survive. The rest won't.

>> No.219666

>>216178
Live2d tech is getting more advanced, more accessible and cheap. Plus the first wave of baacharus actually died down somewhere in 2019. This is the second wave and both niji and holos are leading it

>> No.219714

>>216178
Why is she so sad?

>> No.219751

>>216178
There's a shelf-life for any trend.
There will come a day when it stagnates and the audience declines, but it won't kill off VTubing entirely and the bigger creators will still be just fine despite that. There might be a time even later when there's a renewed wave of interest.

>> No.219776

When the pandemic ends, they'll lose relevance as soon as they gained it.

>> No.219805

>>219751
Just about every weeb wants an avatar now, in a weird way maybe we just inherited a bit of the furry fandom where everyone wants a weebsona. Though it'd be nice if there were more ways to use an avatar than just tubing. I suppose theres VRchat.

>> No.219806

>>219479
>My guess would probably be that it ends up with Vtubers forming collab groups and it becoming more like "people need to get into an established group to get big"
it's like that already

>> No.219862

>>219751
A big factor is how VR progresses over the next few years. VR growth is slow, but it is happening. If it doesn't slow down, that alone will mean more people interested in and accustomed to interacting with virtual avatars.

>> No.219974

>the concept of a virtual idol predates the internet
>people interacting with each other through virtual avatars has been a staple of cyberpunk for years
>tracking technology improves bit by bit

Yeah, vtubing is a passing fad, everyone will go back to chewing skunks in two weeks.

>> No.220179

>>216178
live streaming in general is ancillary to vtubers and live streamers are only going to get way larger. so vtubers will as well, though they'll probably lag behind a bit in popularity and cap out at some point.

however, on the tech side vtubers will probably have a major hand in that in the growth of live streaming. there will be all kinds of live production techniques that will be pioneered by vtubers that will subsequently be used by livestreamers (sort of analogous to how early video streaming and codecs were heavily influenced by anime fansubbers).

>> No.220506

>>216178
It will only get bigger. Think VRchat-like mass events with streamers in VR, like in Psycho-pass
Also, T E L E D I L D O N I C S

>> No.220531

>>218486
>we get cum gutters

>> No.221906

>>219776
>people are going to go outside once the pandemic ends
Many people have taken a liking to working from home and companies have learned they don't need an office. There'll be some decrease in viewership but not a whole lot.

>> No.222915

>>216178
Look at Nijisanji. They were getting 15k+ in their golden age, now they're dropping to less than 1k. It's not going to last forever.

>> No.222952

>>222915
Cus there is like TONS more Vtubers and hololive ate mos tof their viewers probably.

>> No.222978

>>220179
Vtubers will always have a niche because there will always be people who want to livestream but for some reason or another don't want to have their real face on camera. Why would an ugly woman ever be a normal livestreamer when they could be a vtuber? Vtubers are the in between between no camera, which isn't that popular with viewers, and having your face on camera.

>> No.223019

>>222978
Thsn you doxxed them and see a lot of them are actually pretty hot.
Like I really expect them to be ugly. WTF Anon.

>> No.223031

>>216178
People say it's going to fall off since Kizuna Ai blew up, it will always be around, it's more accessible than ever before.

>> No.223078

>>219805
Magura Ene used to do vrchat streams of her "exercises".
>>223019
Try doxxing indies.

>> No.223151

>>216178
Did collecting money from simps on instagram fall off? Did streaming fall off? Did youtubers fall off?

No, it has only gotten bigger.

This is the new parasocial pacifier slash cryptoprostitution and it's not going to go away, only the names and companies might change

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>>216683
natural selection takes its course, may the fittest survive

>> No.225409

I want it to go back to being comfy bros, ironic weebs are the worst thing to happen to any kind of Japanese media.

>> No.225686

>>216990
camo patterns unique, Canadian army?

>> No.226120

>>223151
>Did collecting money from simps on instagram fall off?
it actually has, anon, are you still stuck in 2017?

everyone who has a brand has been moving away from instagram. the nice thing is that it basically maintains itself, but no one takes it seriously anymore. even OnlyFans is actually garbage if you want money. engagement is over on tiktok if you want eyes on you, but even then you're not making money from it.

>Did streaming fall off? Did youtubers fall off?
this really depends on what you're looking to get out of it. if you're looking for a job, don't. the established producers will continue to control the majority of eyes and revenue. if you're trying to edge in on a niche market (like vtubing) that's an even steeper hill to climb.

>> No.227553

>>216441
Begone doom sayer with zero evidence for your claims

>> No.227592

>>225409
make that ironic anything. Fuck hiding everything behind 10 layers of irony. Like what you like and be genuine about it.

>> No.227644

>>216203
>no future for vtubers
Bye, Orange.

>> No.231010

>>216364
>Hololive had strong overseas following even pre Covid.
Where did you get that from? The EN boom started in spring last year

>> No.231082

>>218253
>This isn't new, this is literally how YouTube has been functioning for years. YouTubers reminding their viewers to "like, comment, and subscribe" is a meme because a lot of YouTubers actually do say it, because it actually works.
It wasn't always like that, not as far as I can remember at least. 5 years ago it wasn't really a thing.

>> No.232670

>>231082
>5 years ago it wasn't really a thing.
yeah, because youtube hadn't changed their algorithms to push people who got more Likes, Comments, and Subscriptions.

they also recently changed it up so that Community Polls would keep getting pushed out which is how folks like Dream skyrocketed to popularity by abusing the changed algorithms to constantly get their shit pushed out to Recommendeds.

>> No.234268

>>225686
No idea, not a /k/ommando. Not a Kiwi or an Aussie pattern.

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>>227644
oh sorry, i thought it meant weebtoon avatars not actual vtubers

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>>216178
that kit fucking sucks
don't buy trumpeter, fucking warped to shit parts in any scale

>> No.237928

>>236498
Based plamochad

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