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21586511 No.21586511 [Reply] [Original]

This is getting ridiculous

>> No.21586661

>>21586511
Right? We need more

>> No.21587051

you won't even encounter anyone but JP and EN, and maybe a couple from KR/ID who can speak English. It's really not overwhelming at all

>> No.21588429

>>21586511
that's not even a complete list, it's omitting the former Nijisanji Shanghai and Nijisanji Taipei entirely.
anyways, Niji doesn't promote the idea of box pushing. you don't have to pretend to care about every member, you don't have to give them dead pity subs in order to hit milestones or anything else. just watch the ones you like and are interested in. this whole idea even goes as far as the livers themselves - it was pretty telling during the last round of team selection for baseball that some of the JP livers knew nothing about some of the people who had debuted closely before or after them.

>> No.21590688

>>21586511
ALL OUT WAR

>> No.21590906

>numbers go down = bad
holokeks begone

>> No.21592181
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21592181

The strategy is brilliant.
>Every new talent steals some viewers from the old talents, while also increasing the total viewers somewhat.
>The total viewerbase keeps increasing with every debut
>As more debuts happen, viewers are spread thin. Thus the lower viewed vtubers fall below the threshold of sustainability, and stop streaming.
>This effectively weeds out the deadwood over time, while allowing the good ones to rise and succeed off the increasing viewerbase.
>Constant debuts means constant debut highs, lots of energy and excitement all the time.
>Also rolling the odds that a vtuber will hit the youtube algorithm and become insanely popular.
>This also establishes a massive network of connections that you can draw upon.

It's literally fucking brilliant, the more you think about it the more sense it makes

>> No.21592912

>>21586511
Nipplesanji keeps diluting themselves into oblivion. Are they just trying to corner the 2 view market?

>> No.21593088

209 members. Did you really fucking go to that wikia page and ignore the part abour VirtualReal Star and VirtualReal Link which aren't part of VirtuaReal? They are like a network, retard, they are indies affiliated, not part of it.

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21593758

>>21586511
I don't care about nijisanji as company, but I'm glad that they introduced me to tenkaiji

>> No.21593810

>>21590906
ALL OUT WAR
>>21592181
WAR WAR WAR

>> No.21596125

>>21593088
Still over 200, buddy. And that's not counting the dozens of retired ones.

>> No.21596776

>>21596125
Don't care if it's 200 or not. over 40 are from VR which no one watches because it's on CHina and i only corrected about the correct number of members.

>> No.21597608

>>21588429
what about muh nijisanji unity?

>> No.21598386

>>21586511
I only have 1 active liver. How do I cope?

>> No.21598496

>>21586661
Based. We shouldn't stop until EN can have a stream up for 24 hours every day outside of management meetings.

>> No.21598544

>>21587051
>you won't even encounter anyone
You could have stopped there

>> No.21598748

>holo only has 68 members
Damn, each holo has to fight about 3.5 nijis. Our chances aren't looking good, holobros.

>> No.21600021

>>21592181
>business wise, yes, he need to burn his funds he got from chinks laundering money real quick
>fanbase wise, no

>> No.21600176

>>21598748
you cant say that, 30% of ninijikek have like 3views and 2 views

>> No.21600574
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>>21586511
FIVE MORE WAVES OF FIVE MALES EVERY FIVE WEEKS

>> No.21600821

>>21586511
Was IN so bad that didnt last the second wave?

>> No.21600888

>>21598748
Gura by herself probably takes down half of them

>> No.21601344

>>21598748
most Nijis are humans though, smol Ame could take out dozens of them before getting anywhere close to being overwhelmed

>> No.21603457

>>21600821
they looked at Hana's popularity (at the time), they looked at India's population number and figured they could hit it big only to end up with one streamer in the low 100s and two more in the 15-35 range after a year of activity.
there was no Indian market, the non-Indian English marketing didn't care and the attempt to change the name drove home that a simple name change wasn't going to magically pull an audience out of thin air.
they made three attempts to market them after launch: including them in NIJINYANJI (an event for nips who have never had much interest in the other branches), having a clip of them during Nijifest (again, nips didn't care) and shilling them on the Nijisanji World twitter account which had only started to see other growth a couple months before their graduation with subbed JP stuff which the World accounts have since stopped doing.
with EN at least they fixed the mistake of failing to advertise them.

>> No.21606051

>>21588429
>nijiniggers: you don't have to follow everyone in nijisanji
>also nijiniggers: you don't know [insert niji here]? What a holobrony

>> No.21606724

>>21606051
having a conversation with voices in your head is not healthy anon

>> No.21611587

>>21588429
And this is why nijisanji sucks

>> No.21611882

><img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/24edafcc_wojakNPC.png">having a conversation with the voices in your head is not healthy anon

>> No.21612056

>>21606051
the most devoted nijifag cant name 10% of vtubers in nijisanji
they probably dont even know that NijiKR and NijiID had 6 graduations the last 2 months after they killed off their branches

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>> No.21614296

>>21606051
You don't have to follow everyone in Nijisanji and you don't have to talk about the ones you know nothing about and spread misinfo then cry when someone points out you're wrong. I don't know anything about Mel Hololive, why should I post about her in the catalog and make several threads about her?

>> No.21614462

>>21586511
>>235 chubbas
>>all of them are trash
<img class="xae" data-xae width="28" height="28" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/25908e08_PepeLmao.png">

>> No.21614518

>>21586511
What was the business plan again?<span class="xae" data-xae="think">🤔</span>

>> No.21614576

>>21614518
money laundry

>> No.21614688

>>21586511
imagine how drunk you could get with 235 livers...

>> No.21614764

>>21614197
nijien was doing a really good job avoiding this until the m*les debuted

>> No.21614824

>>21592181
>undercutting my own talents won't 100% backfire when the ones that leave join other agencies and or go indie and take their fanbase with them

>> No.21614996

>>21614824
So far its been a pretty successful strategy, it took 3 years for them to even begin not being in the limelight of every single thing revolving around vtubing which is something not even Kizuna Ai could do and is something we're currently seeing people like Sana and Kiara fail to do.

>> No.21615001

>>21598748
It's not even a fair fight. Maybe 10 niji vs 1 holo on average to make it fair.

<img class="xae" data-xae width="37" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/0ee48fb4_longcat.png">
<img class="xae" data-xae width="37" height="30" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/95c37417_longcata.png">
<img class="xae" data-xae width="37" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/e77bc341_longcatb.png">

>> No.21615101

>>21586511
And to think this is only roughly 1% of the total number of VTubers that exist.

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>>21614518
actual Human Wave Tactics

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>>21598748
Dragonblooded vs Solar Exalted.

Still a better edition than 3rd.

>> No.21615299

>>21614996
The thing that made me permanently pick Hololive over Nijisanji was Gibara graduating for seemingly no reason. Like, wtf?

>> No.21615304

>>21614518
chinese sweatshop

>> No.21615386

>>21615299
Anon, gibbers is the one with the most open reason for leaving. she wanted to make more money

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>>21614518

>> No.21615410

>>21612056
>they probably dont even know that NijiKR and NijiID had 6 graduations the last 2 months
I think YOU probably didn't know that it's only KR member who graduated.

>> No.21615518

>>21614197
Kek

>> No.21615579

>>21614518
Zerg rush kekekeke

>> No.21615892

>>21615299
Emotionally I understand you, that time was rough for a thousand other unrelated reasons too and felt like it was coming after non-stop blows from all over the scene. But practically?

Gibara is one of the only retired vtubers who didn't lie or try to hide it, which is saying something when the other ones are someone who is now literally deceased or faked it, someone who openly shat on her company for expecting a 20k sub deadline to be met with 0 advertising in three weeks, and K's onahole. I can't imagine you going through all of that and that's the one thing that made a change for you company-wise when it had literally nothing to do with them.

>> No.21616082

>>21615892
>20k sub deadline
who was this

>> No.21616120

>>21615386
>>21615892

It couldn't have been just money. If that were the case it was obvious to anyone that with her design and personality/talent it was only a matter of time before she exploded in popularity and it's hard for me to imagine she couldn't see it herself or others didn't tell her. I thought it was because Hololive beat her costume reveal with Polka's debut and the similarity just took the wind out of her. According to her she quit to pursue a career she chose, which I don't necessarily take to be about money, but damn. So basically even if she were my oshi her fans and gachikoi were only an after thought. Fuck Nijisanji for bringing someone like that on board and getting people emotionally invested.

>> No.21616307

>>21616120
>It couldn't have been just money.
It technically wasn't, the first anon was wrong. It was due to her overly explosive Gura-tier popularity and she wasn't able to handle being the face of a company at every other turn. The "public" reason was to pursue a career, but after watching her go into months of member-only streams and twitcasts with the odd public stream here and there the writing was so on the wall so obviously it might as well have been written in blood.

>> No.21616370

>>21616120
>>21616307
>forgetting her rant about getting shit on left and right for not being proper and being too loud and crass

>> No.21616390

>>21598748
So it'll be a fair fight

>> No.21616499

>>21616370
That was super early on and she got support from pretty much everyone, I'm talking about nearing the end of her career where she explicitly said she hated having that many eyes on her, and having a bunch of retarded fans who want her to be nothing but loud and crass like a 2 dimensional heh character. Or I guess more aptly a monkey doing flips for bananas.

>> No.21616952

>>21598748
damn, someone send this to Niji CEO, they need to add more talents so at least the comparison is 10:1

>> No.21617226

I only recognize Nijis from R18 fanart.
Except for Toko, for her I enjoy the singing and the porn.

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>>21617226
give in to the hag

>> No.21621372

>>21588429
And yet nijinigegrs won't shut the fuck up about "REAL FRIENDS" or "THEY'RE A BIG FAMILY", they all know they're disposable

>> No.21621468

>>21586511
I bet at least a few of them are alcoholics. They might not have the most active livers.

>> No.21621573

>>21588429
NijiEN is doing the box push thing a lot better though

>> No.21622953

>>21621372
>REAL FRIENDS
Yes, some of them are friends
>BIG FAMILY
No that's the line Hololive fans about their company while ignoring that it's not true.

>> No.21623910

>>21622953
the "nijis are a big family" came from some thots video. people made fun of it when it dropped from what i remember

>> No.21625501

>>21621372
you forgot chemistry
they love spouting that one

>> No.21626815

>>21615255
How was 2nd ed? Never got to try it, and 3rd was pretty bad

>> No.21627039

>>21586511
What about the ghost librarian one that has never had a debut but has been kept on the active roster for like 4 years?

>> No.21628004

>>21616499
She tried going the japanese equivalent of an e-girl paywalling everything behind fanbox but went to just being another vtuber again but this time much less successful. Which begs the question, just what was her big dream that she was going to achieve to justify graduating?

>> No.21628168

>>21586511
235 active livers, maybe 10 are relevant.

>> No.21628271

>>21587051
not if you frequent bilibili, the most superior streaming platform

>> No.21628759

>>21628271
>not if you frequent the chink streaming platform
i highly doubt anyone is that retarded

>> No.21628833

>>21628271
They still are not Nijisanji but Virtual Real. Anycolor yes. Nijisanji no.

>> No.21628905

>>21586511
I don’t wanna be an anti but holy shit even coming as someone who likes Luxiem, Noctex are so fucking forgettably irreverent in designs and personalities

>> No.21629929

>>21621372
>caring about EOP opinions
don't worry, nijiEN still only has 20 people, give it 3 or 4 more waves and cliques will become clear

>> No.21629972

>>21628271
>chink shit
Chinks need to be genocided, Japan had the right idea in the 30s.

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>>21614518

>> No.21631870

>>21614518
Complete global saturation.

>> No.21634814

>>21586511
Fucking hell that's a lot

>> No.21634864

>>21623910
There are some large friend groups in niji, that's where the phrase comes from brainlet

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21636215

>>21626815
It had great soul, fantastic lore and art, extremely unique tick-based combat, and more splatbooks than you can shake a stick at. That said, it was dragged down by terrible balance issues that didn't get officially errata'd out until well into the edition, and ended pretty gracelessly due to the collapse of White Wolf during that time.

Still no better way to play Exalted than errata'd 2nd Ed, though. Just a completely unique take on high-powered tabletop mechanics that hasn't been replicated in the scene since. And the lore, man. There's so much you can do with it and so much cool shit taken right out of the playbook for 80s and 90s anime OVAs.

>> No.21639406

>>21614197
<img class="xae" data-xae width="28" height="28" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/25908e08_PepeLmao.png">

>> No.21641146

And even all 235 combined don't match the talent of the worst holomember
Why are nijiniggers like this

>> No.21641303

>>21586511
And the quality shows.

>> No.21647258

Nijisanji isn't a family it's a factory.

>> No.21653237

>>21641146
ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKEKE

>> No.21653435

Nijisanji is closely associated with mainland chinks for a reason.

>> No.21653911

>>21616120
>So basically even if she were my oshi her fans and gachikoi were only an after thought
lmao, so you didn't watch her but you are now care about her retirement? Talking about Nijisanji is living rentfree in holobronies head heh

>> No.21655020

>>21653911
>she graduated not to disappoint her fans
>SEAnig
kys

>> No.21657684

>>21628905
I respect your feelings but on god I have the exact opposite thoughts towards Luxiem that you do towards Noctyx. It just means there's different markets for everyone, though.

>> No.21660726

>>21600574
Every 5 days you mean?

>> No.21664176

>>21628004
Being friends with imas VAs
which she is doing as babu right now

>> No.21664291

>>21636215
I’m gonna take that and just go and read what I can find on it now. Here’s to hopefully another great future campaign!

>> No.21665237

>>21586511
literally avengers

>> No.21670225

>>21586511
it’s proof that you can have both quality and quantity

>> No.21671093

>>21586511
damn what killed all the koreans

>> No.21672170

>>21671093
The japanese occupation

>> No.21678351

>>21586511
and every single one of them sucks

>> No.21684063

And not a single one of them is worth watching

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