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Holofags insist Nijisanji vtubers don't make any money in superchat when in reality many of the own hololive vtubers are constantly behind them. March ranking is the current example of that.

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthly

>> No.2123920

>>2123805
They are delusional anon. If they were fair, they would see how even in superchat there's a lot of holos that are behind many nijisanji. Dominating a top 10 and then ignoring the rest is how they always do though.

>> No.2123981

Don't play into the hands of the holofags.

>> No.2124089

>>2123805
>>2123920
Anon, you know we can see the number of unique posters in the bottom right, right? Also why even do this shit, Holo earns way more from superchat on average. Just link people the rankings next time. Gibara is only up there because of her graduation.

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthly

Holo mostly dominates the top 50. If you want to argue something about numbers you can, but just mistating facts is stupid. At least say something about how Holo streams way more, encourages super chat a lot more, and doesn't have as many alternatives avenues to let people give them money without giving 30% to Youtube.

>> No.2124189

>>2124089
/thread

>> No.2124275

>>2123805
Why did you hide 1th to 6th place, Nijifag?

>> No.2124327

>>2123981
OP is made by a holofag. watch him getting tens of (you)

>> No.2124415

>>2124327
Wrong. It's just retarded consolebabbys that want to bring their faggotry here (not that it didn't exist before).

>> No.2124429
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2124429

>>2123805
Nijinigger on full on denial. The holos ended from the bottom to the top vtubers in the entire world and you WILL deal with it.

>> No.2124489

>>2123805
>>2123920
>>2124089
>>2124189
>>2124275
>>2124327
>>2124415
Imagine caring about any of this.

>> No.2124528

>>2124489
>also me
Anon, why are you quoting me? I'm against these retarded posts.

>> No.2124604

>>2124489
T.Nijifag

>> No.2124685

>>2124604
Fuck off, consolefag.

>> No.2124779

>>2124528
I put you in there for bumping the thread anon, you should know better than to succumb to tribalfags.

>>2124604
Meds anon-kun

>> No.2124828

>>2124779
>I'm there because I was retarded
Fair enough.

>> No.2125392

>>2124429
Isn't it funny how you say this with a huge Nijinigger who buy tons of superchats to them and their merchandise?

>>2124089
Faggot, the point is that Hololive and Nijisanji dominate the top 50, which is the reality, and in the top 300 we see many nijisanji above Risu, Choco, Iofi, Moona, Mel, Matsuri and many others. Do I need to show the positions of hololive and nijisanji vtubers until the end of the

Also, are you a retard or what? I said this

> Holofags insist Nijisanji vtubers don't make any money in superchat

The point is how most of Nijisanji in superchat alone are over 10k in a month and how they make a lot of money even before youtube/agency. Ffs, the last one in the 300, who isn't evena vtuber, got almost 4k in just a month.

>> No.2125510

It's sad how overseas folks put way too much weight into the superchat numbers.

>> No.2125645
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2125645

Can you believe a gif or a clip from a youtube mashup of a 1990s African American sitcom about a young man raised in the ghetto who ends up moving with his rich family in Bel-Air would ever be relevant in 2021 on a basketweaving image forum about streamers that use avatars to entertain? Truly, what a time to be alive.

>> No.2125730

>>2123805
Men do so much better in Nijisanji. Why do dudes even want to join HolostarsEN (assuming it gets made)?

>> No.2125739

>numberfags being deceptive.
Not surprising but I'll play along. You are using the tip of the iceberg to represent Nijisanji's SC earnings to compare it with the whole of Hololive but you are excluding the rest of Nijisanji who are the rest of the iceberg. Now, it would take too long to calculate the 150+ of them so I'll narrow it down to ID and KR who are near the bottom of the list. Exlcuded IN as well. I'm using $ earn for simplicity on my end but it might be better if it was converted to the currency that they would use.

Ninjisanji ID:
Hana Macchia- $24,496, Zea Cornelia- $2, 601, Taka Radjiman- $1,621, Rai Galilei- $200, Riksa Dhirendra- $176, Amicia Michella- $513, Miyu Ottavia- $244, Azura Cecillia- $549, Layla Alstroemeria- $523, Nara Haramaung- $969, Etna Crimson- $587, Bonnivier Pranaja- $1,796, Siska Leontyne- $155, Nagisa Arcinia- $530, Derem Kado- $1,890, Reza Avanluna- $858

Nijisanji KR:
Wiffy- $2,046, Yu Ruri- $0 (or before SC could be counted), Shin Yuya- $18,075, Min Suha- $8,864, Moarin- $2,734 (looks like it was brief and replaced with real person), Gaon- $5,052, Kaen- $0 (or before SC could be counted), Lorou- $0 (or before SC could be counted), Han Chiho- $2,306, Hakuren- (playboard wouldn't bring up page but likely $0 or not recorded), Lee Siu- $12,210, So Nagi- $26,413, Chae Ara- $13,712, Aikra Ray- $8,497, LeeRoha- $13,890, Nun Bora- $43,374, Oh Jiyu- $5,463, Shin Kiru- $823, Yang Nari- $5,078, Ryu Hari- $2,182.

Now let's compare this with the lowest earning branch of Hololive which is ID. The lowest SC earned right now is Anya Melfissa at $20,470 and the highest right now is Kureiji Ollie $79,455. Anya beats all of Nijisanji ID except Hana Macchia but is close to her SC earnings, even though Hana debuted in 2019 and Anya was in December of last year. Anya is ahead of even the closest one to debut near her generation, Kado Derem, by a volume of times 10+. When compared to KR, there is more of a fight in SC compared to their ID counterparts but Anya beats most but 2 which are Nun Bora and So Nagi. Nun Bora the highest earner just beats the 2nd highest earner of Hololive ID Moona Hoshinova who is at $40,254. KR is a little impressive relatively speaking in Nijisanji even though it has a lot that retired in that division.

There are probably sponsorships and other means of money they earn that isn't calculated here. Likely because for most of them, this is not a full time job but a side hustle. Obviously proving numberfagging flawed to begin with which will "surely" stop if I point this oot. :^). Anyway, if you're going to numberfag, at least do a better job than a modern day pop culture journalist and bring fair comparisons and possible explanations for errors that may prove or disprove your point if you want to try to be a wannabe statistical analyst.

>> No.2125745

>>2125392
It must be sad to be a Nijifag.

>> No.2125766

>>2124429
>holos ended from the bottom to the top vtubers in the entire world and you WILL deal with it.
The same thing will happen to Hololive.

>> No.2125815

>>2123805
Anon you are a faggot, seeing Gibara there is a fucking pain, I miss her so much
I'll probably won't see her again...
Sigh

>> No.2125830

>>2125739
too many words

>> No.2126108

Why can't we just get along?

>> No.2126149

>>2126108
Nijifags can't accept reality.

>> No.2126181

Every single person in this thread is a schizo and a faggot, yes even me.

>> No.2126548

>>2125745
I'm not a nijifag, retard. I'm a nijiholofag

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>>2123805
vyt sperg you were warned.

>> No.2126632

>>2125739
I don't understand why you're comparing ID and KR to them when I was talking about the japanese branch and not only I wasn't saying that hololive don't make money but I was talking about how there's many Niji JP that makes more in superchat than hololive girls, unlike what is said in here.

If anything, you're the one numberfagging in here.

>> No.2126638

>>2123805
I just like to watch some Ars streams.

>> No.2126785

>>2125392
Matsuri isn't a nijinigger because she doesn't sperg out about numbers and attack hololive like (You)

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2126789

I just beat my meat to Rindou, Ange, and Lulu
Who gives a shit how much money they make?
Are you a loser who gets sexually satisfied by big numbers are something like that?

>> No.2126800

>>2123920
>>2123805
who has said that
you guys are all delusional

>> No.2126849

This is easily the dumbest thread today.

>> No.2126914

>>2126849
Nah, but it's certainly the most retarded, and that says a lot considering KFP exists.

>> No.2129563

>>2125815
Just go watch one of the other 8,000 irrelevant Nijis.

>> No.2129774

>>2129563
Irrelevant Nijis where tons of them have more live viewers than many from hololive, faggot.

>> No.2130158

>>2129774
imagine being this delusional, also needing big collabs to get good numbers is actual sad

>> No.2130174

>>2126632
holy cope

>> No.2130369

>>2129774
>tons
It's literally only the faggot vampire homo. Even then he still gets totally mogged by Pekora. Everybody else would be mid-tier among viewers in hololive.

>> No.2130535

I saw that Nijisanji girl, Lize something?, play Horse gacha and get 29K viewers while only having less than 500K subs. Not to mention it coincided with Pekora's outfit reveal.

>> No.2130570

>>2123805
Hololive/Nijisan Gundam battle when?

>> No.2130633

>>2129774
How does it feel to be a Nijisanji fan realizing that your favorite vtuber agency is completely subservient to it's Chinese masters?

>> No.2130644

>>2129774
Nijis have far more Japanese-only fans than EN fans, so the majority of fans watching them are Japanese fans

>> No.2130706

>>2125510
Japs do too

>> No.2130748

>>2125730
Probably seems like working under Holostars would have less expectations placed on them, also less mentally ill fans since hardly anyone knows about them in the first place
I do wonder how many of them auditioned or considered auditioning for Nijisanji but only had the opportunity of going to Holostars though

>> No.2130759

>>2125730
cause they wanna stick their dick in shark booty. Hoping they can build a romantic relationship with any of holoEN.

>> No.2130787

Didn't hololive and niji recently change places on some jp vtuber agency ranking website? I know I saw pictures of it on 5ch with people saying its about time, anyone know what im talking about?

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>> No.2131107

>>2130644
I don't understand how that has anything to do with irrelevance.

>>2130369
Nowhere I said tons of Nijisanji are above Pekora, Marine or Aqua in live views, but above other hololive that are above 10k or 5k.

>>2131019
One more idiot who don't get the point of my thread. I was talking about the entire top 300 and while I was looking for it, I saw many Nijisanji members who were above other hololive members. This is the same every month. Do I really need to cite all of the members in here to prove my point and show what I mean?

>> No.2131120

>>2123805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i01AKcuLfdA
If some nijinigger just open it once for shit and giggle and makes it to the top then the SC money is fucking tiny for them

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>>2131019

>> No.2132092

Nijisanji? Who is that? some holostar or something?

>> No.2132866

>>2132092
Nijisanji is the Hololive of Japan

>> No.2132908

>>2126108
They took Aloe from me.

>> No.2132926

Why does Hololive live rent free in Nijiniggers heads?

>> No.2132971

>>2126632
You were the one who mentioned Risu, Moona, and Iofi first.
>>2125392
>and in the top 300 we see many nijisanji above Risu, Choco, Iofi, Moona, Mel, Matsuri and many others.

>> No.2133009

>>2129563
Anon I really wish that you never get your oshi graduated, I don't want to watch "other Nijis" I want my oshi, but it's her choice, I hope that she manages to score big and make her dreams come true but I'll always miss her

>> No.2133034

>>2132926
I ask the opposite question every time nijisanji fans take the blame for something holo unicorns do.

>> No.2133068

>>2133009
if my oshi got graduated i would unironically leave Vtubing and go back to watching kripp and forsen.

>> No.2133128

>it's a /vt/ numberfagging thread getting 300 replies episode
yawn, maybe watch chuubas instead of uselessly comparing them

>> No.2133361

anyone have the dox of the flip nijifag?

>> No.2133625

>>2133068
Lucky you, I don't like normal youtubers and I don't like watching male western gamers so I have to settle with the remains

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2133649

Numberfags are the biggest faggots on this board.

>> No.2133658

>>2123805
>Numberfagging
This isn't reddit, faggot.

>> No.2133661

don't watch niji but that's cool I guess

>> No.2135933

>>2123805
Why are the men in Nijisanji more successful thank holostars.

>> No.2136716

>>2135933
Hololive fans and Cover themselves don’t give a shit about the stars. Nijifags are more open to watching men because Niji is more streamer and less idol.

>> No.2137478

>>2123805
Superchats don't even matter all that much. People only think they do because they're the income that's easiest to see.
They actually make up such a small slice of the total profit that some people don't even bother turning them on.

>> No.2139957

>>2135933
because the holostars don't get to do any of the fun shit that nijis do. also kuzuha is the funniest person alive.

>> No.2140316

Most holofags don't even know what Nijisanji is

>> No.2140787

>>2123805
Niji Lauder money for the Yakuza, of course they are so high on the ranking, I don't think you should be proud of it tho

>> No.2140831

>>2140787
When the Russian mafia needs to Lauder money, a new fps game appears on steam

When the Yakuza needs to Launders money, a new Niji make a debut

>> No.2141274

>>2130535
Lize Helesta. She's the female niji that gets the highest numbers. Dunno why though. Is there any N1 nijifriends here that could explain her draw? She seems pretty mild from what I see. Is her commentary top tier or something?

>> No.2141289

>>2141274
yuri with ange

>> No.2141297

>>2140316
Rent free.

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2141560

>>2140316
Well, i know nijisanji from lost pause video.
Did nijisanji really ask a weeb to react to their official translated clips?

>> No.2141795

>>2132971
I mentioned them because they were some of the others behind JP vtubers but if you want a comparison of just nijijp and holojp, sure, remove them.

>> No.2141917

>>2141274
In a sea of airheads and dunces, she stands out as an erudite who's knowledgeable about left-brained things like law and astronomy.
Combine that with her introverted nature and you get a case of "She's awkward and smart like me!"

>> No.2147321

>>2135933
Kinda difficult for the Stars to be more succesful when their company spend months ignoring them, the great majority of HoloPro members ignore their existence and the fanbase that Hololive attracts doesn't give a fuck about them most of the time.

>> No.2155202

>>2141917
She's introverted? She seems like a good talker.

>> No.2160144

>>2123805
Why is this even an issue to begin with?

>> No.2160671

>>2141560
>Did nijisanji really ask a weeb to react to their official translated clips?
They actually paid him to lmao

>> No.2161409

>>2123805
Believing that super chats are a the primary source of income and mean anything at all. Why are num fags this delusional.

>> No.2161451

>>2123805
/vt/ has been worse than usual this weekend for some reason. maybe /jp/ had a point.

>> No.2162929

>>2126789
do you fantasize cucking Kuzuha or the opposite?

>> No.2163265

>>2155202
Introverts can be as good at talking as any extrovert. The difference is that while it comes naturally for extroverts, introverts need to put effort into it. And even then the result is different.

>> No.2165736

>>2123805
Why do people even care about numbers?

>> No.2165777

>>2165736
Autism

>> No.2165793

>>2160671
fucking kek

>> No.2165932

>>2123805
Who made this argument op ive never heard this I think the voices in your head are acting up again

>> No.2166023

>>2165736
numbers are survival for companies.

>> No.2166035

>>2162929
He fantasizes about cucking Rindou

>> No.2166463

>>2166023
superchat numbers are irrelevant.

>> No.2166664

Are nijis this autistic?

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2166836

I feel like this thread is a falseflag because anyone who knows shit about Niji doesn't care about superchat numbers. Ichikara is worth 4x more than Cover. It's literally irrelevant. The top 100 could be completely dominated by holos and the company would still be worth less.

>> No.2166928

>>2166463
>>2166836
nijicope

>> No.2167098

Let me give you a hint anons, everyone that shorts Nijisanji to "niji" is a falseflagger

>> No.2167270

>>2123805
How is Kiara the most superchatted holoEN?

>> No.2167339

>>2123805
>being a numbersfag

>> No.2167813

>>2166664
Even more so anon

>> No.2171228

>>2166836
Cope harder.

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2172186

You're all faggots.

>> No.2172556

>>2123920
>Dominating a top 10 and then ignoring the rest is how they always do though.
You sound butthurt and angry about the fact that nijisanji lack a cultural presence outside jp and China, it was never about supers just about how you feel inferior

>> No.2173188

>>2126789
>rindou and ange
this nigga getting KEKED

>> No.2173311

>>2172556
It's not for lack of trying either. They want the international power that hololive has so badly, hell, they have MORE foreign branches than hololive. The only thing is that nobody gives a shit about them and that burns nijiniggers to the very core of their being.

>> No.2173544

>>2173311
What? Are you new or sheltered?
Nijifags want nothing to do with global expansion because it brings insufferable EOPs and ESLs.

>> No.2173754

>>2173544
newfagchaama

>> No.2173956

>>2173544
I''m talking about the company themselves. They want that foreign money but they can't get it because they suck. The fans want it too because not being relevant internationally makes their numbers looks like shit compared to Holo.

>> No.2174529

>>2173956
I really don't think Ichikara's hurting for the foreign audience. Their domination over the Japanese market makes them wealthy enough as it is.
They're not drowning and their global expansion efforts aren't some gasp for air. They're just expanding because they can.

>> No.2174557

>>2173956
If anything aren't their numbers impressive? They're still right there in competition alongside Hololive with their global audience despite mainly having a domestic audience only.

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