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20593522 No.20593522 [Reply] [Original]

I like them both.
And you?

>> No.20593552

>>20593522
I don't really watch nijinisanji, but I don't think they deserve the hate they get here.

>> No.20593569

I don't really follow Nijisanji, but I have nothing against them. Also, a healthy sense of competition is good.

>> No.20593618

>>20593522
dont have a problem with Niji but thier fans are fucked in the head like this guy >>20593560

>> No.20593622

I like them both but I hate all of you here.

>> No.20593628

I don't hate anyone, I'm just tired of being raided by discords everyday.

>> No.20593680

I've never watched Nijisanji before so I couldn't say, but I have nothing against them either. Couldn't care less about whatever shitflinging goes on around here from either side.

>> No.20593700

Only two corps? You call yourself a Unityfag OP? Yeah right.

>> No.20593725

I like both companies and their vtubers but watch Nijisanji mostly, but I can't tell which fanbase I hate more.
Holofags who need to make 15 threads about a company they don't watch and instigate fanbase wars over tweets in Japanese that they don't understand.
Or Nijifags who have ruined every area to talk about Nijisanji until the only normal place is a link post thread on /vt/ and 1 or 2 offshoots, which are also going to shit thanks to underage women.

>> No.20593733

>>20593522
I’m a NijiJP fan but I like Holo too. I try not to hate the fans /here/ because I know it’s mostly schizos who don’t actually watch streams making bait threads

>> No.20593765

>>20593700
Tsunderia fans are the worst tribals on here and go out of their way to shit on Cyberlive whenever they can. They shit on PC when we're not looking.

>> No.20593789

>>20593522
Nijisanji has some okay talents but get lost in the sea of all the members

>> No.20593798
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>>20593522
>love me Holo
>love me Niji
>love me PhaCon
>love me VShoujo
>'ate rrats
>'ate tribalism
simple as

>> No.20593846

>>20593522
>And you?
My first impression of niji was seeing them shittalk my oshi. So fuck them.

>> No.20593867

>>20593522
i hate both EN branch like you won't believe it

>> No.20594035

I like both, I prefer hololive at the end of the day but I still try to catch quite a few niji streams if I can

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>>20593522
>He didn't larp as both and throwing shit at both side

>> No.20594232

Clipniggers are a large part of the reason we are here.
I hate clipniggers so much.

>> No.20594237

>>20593522
Why can Nijisanji undestand that less is more?
Why can't Hololive lift a fucking finger when their top talents are being bombarded with antis harassment?

>> No.20594308

>>20593700
it's some holotard trying some weak ceasefire even though they hate 90% of all vtubers

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>>20593522
I don't watch Hololive much these days, but I do still like them quite a bit. I find their fanbase on /here/ annoying, but if I let a fanbase ruin things for me there's very few things I would like.
And even then, the fans outside here are tolerable, if annoyingly ignorant about the rest of the vtuber industry.

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>>20593765
>Tsunderia fans are the worst tribals on here and go out of their way to shit on Cyberlive whenever they can
Nigga what are you smoking, /tsun/ was practically begging the company to allow collabs with CyberLive girls for months

>> No.20594397
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20594397

don't call yourself a unitychad if you don't follow smaller corpos.

>> No.20594476

Don't care about Niji.

>> No.20594538

>>20594308
>muh holofan boogeymen
Rent free.

>> No.20594599

>>20593522
It's too late for that now this is "all out war" - I mean "training exercise" according to Nipplesanji themselves

>> No.20594623

I mainly watch Nijisanji now, but like most EOP I got into vtubers through Hololive. I still watch some of my favorites (Polka, Korone, Subaru) from time to time

>> No.20594811

>>20593522
I'm not too much of a holofan but I still enjoy their members and I wish for the day my oshi can collab with her friend freely. I hate tribalists with a burning passion though and all of them should die

>> No.20594835

>>20593522
>gigachad.jpg
I like who I like.

>> No.20594867

>>20593522
Me too

>> No.20594871

>>20594397
the real test for the unitychad is vshojo

tribalfags WILL reveal themselves at the mention of this name

>> No.20594889

>>20594871
I think the pink cat is funny

>> No.20594890

>>20593522
More Holo than Niji, but Rosemi is a cutie and I have no beef with the Niji fans

>> No.20594926

>>20594871
I like Melody and I don’t think Zen is that bad

>> No.20594950

>>20593522
I love Hololive, and I like all branches and all members and am a massive unityfag. For Nijisanji I like certain members.

>> No.20594952

>>20594871
I really like froot voice, that's about it

>> No.20594954

>>20593522
I don't care for most of NijiEN, but some of their JP talents are pure sex.

>> No.20594960

the only ones I hate are vshitjo

>> No.20594964

>>20593522
i hate redditors

>> No.20594966
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I like NijisanjiEN more because most of them are friends with my oshi.
I don't mind watching HoloEN every once in a while though. I know Ina and maybe Bae are friends with her.

>> No.20594991

>>20593522
I like them both, hate tribalist retards

>> No.20595045

I only watch gura and rosemi

>> No.20595109

I only watched hololive and indies, gave up on vshojo because they’ve gotten so inconsistent with their scheduling and quality so I decided to check out niji.

Elira and Enna are cute. I watch them from time to time now, and Millie is growing on me. Being a unity fag is more fun.

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>>20594871
unitychads? more like unitycucks lmaoooo

>> No.20595156

>>20593522
The only people against unity are those that don't even watch vtubers and just come here to shit the place up.

>> No.20595238

>>20594991
Outside of maybe one or two schizophrenics who took the discord leak as a declaration of undying hate, I’d wager 99% of the tribalfagging on the catalog is shitposters and Discord raiders taking advantage of /vt/‘s minimal moderation. We’ve reached a point where everything stays up for hours except for hard doxx and 3D porn.

>> No.20595260

>>20593522
i like some of nijijp and holojp, and wouldnt mind if they collabed more
the current trend is garbage cross-branch collabs though and it will probably make me end up hating everyone

>> No.20595309

It's just NijiEN that I don't like much

>> No.20595326

>>20593618
That's how I feel about Holo

>> No.20595352
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>>20594871
I actively support Ironmouse
Melody's Twitch streams are good
I'm okay with Nyanners
I used to watch Apricot

>> No.20595382

>>20593522
Tribalfags and people who buy the bait are cringe. Just watch who you enjoy and be happy

>> No.20595385

>>20593522
>Hololive girls
Love Nene and Botan
>Hololive management
Could be better but nobody is perfect, not Niji nor small corpo.
>Hololive fans
Most are alright and just wanna enjoy streams, I recall some of them being cool when they saw some 3D debuts like Mao, Furen and Levi.

>> No.20595413

>>20594237
>Why can Nijisanji undestand that less is more?
It's a good criticism but honestly their large roster is a symptom of them having no reason not to experiment with flooding the market after experiencing completely unexpected and unprecedented booming success in an industry that was just starting to learn how walk. 2018 was a pretty important contextual year for vtuber dynamics that this board missed out on, in general.

>> No.20595424

>>20593522
I don't like them whole, just some.

>> No.20595484

>>20595413
Kenmochi talked about the state of vtubing in 2018 earlier today actually. An anon also translated Mito's story of being carried outside of a concert in a box because Nijisanji didn't understand what security measures were and forgot to get a back exit to leave the venue in 2018. Shit was crazy back then.

>> No.20595489

>>20594871
I admit that is kinda hard, but not for moralfag reasons, I personally believe that those are just excuses. Niji and Holo have always being mostly friendly as far talents go, directly even as many talents are good friends, and they pretty much just share the same vtuber culture, which even NijiEN and HoloEN taking inspiration from each other. The conflict really comes from a minority of the overal fanbase

Vjosho and beyond have a normal Streamer/Youtuber culture, making them harder to get into if you're coming with the expectations you have with Niji/Holo content.

>> No.20595498

i don't watch HoloEN and i don't really have anything against them, their fans (especially those from third world countries) should be killed though

>> No.20595567

I have no friends and crave intimacy, and vtubers are a great bandaid solution for those. So Im entertained by almost any female chuuba. The only dealbreakers are discussing real-life politics/drama and if they aren’t a decent person

>> No.20595579

>>20593522
I hope that they are both successful but I only watch one of them

>> No.20595590

>>20595498
I wish I could take a look in the posting history of people like you.

It's so easy to shit up threads and them just blame [fanbase] for it

>> No.20595595

>>20593522
I like them both, but I don't have as much experience with Nijisanji since I only got into them a couple months ago. I'm still trying to sample everyone in the EN branch, even the guys to see if they're my taste entertainment-wise. I've gotten into Selen, Rosemi, Pomu, and Millie so far, and I've sampled a few of the others like Nina, Ike, Vox, and Petra. Can anyone recommend good example streams for the others? It's hard to decide when most of their streams aren't games I'm already interested in.

>> No.20595661

I like Hololive and NijiJP. NijiEN and Vshojo are trash.

>> No.20595736

>>20595590
Why don't you go back then?

>> No.20595931

>>20595489
>mostly friendly as far talents go
After that discord yab i don't think so, feels like 50-50 to me
>The conflict really comes from a minority of the overal fanbase
>minority
That depends on if you consider casual clipfags counts as fanbase or not

>> No.20595949

nijien just has more entertaining streams, imo. pekora's the only hololive who is better at livestreaming than Pomu, but i can't watch her because i don't speak japanese.

i think the high-spec idol nature of all the hololives makes them less relatable and more boring. the nijiens are all a bunch of low-spec bimbos and himbos with different backgrounds and cute voices. it's nice that i always have something to chill and laugh at when i get home from work. it's a fun thing to put on when there are no good tv shows left.

>> No.20596020

>>20595931
I'm talking about JP fanbase

as damaging the bad apples can be, they're still a minority

>> No.20596047

>>20595595
Don't worry about what company they're from, if you found one that interests you tune into one of their streams and if you like what you're seeing and want to see more then subscribe to their channels.

>> No.20596148

I don't understand, what made the board 10x worse in the last few months?

>> No.20596413

>>20593522
nijisanji love
hololive love
nijien hate
holoen hate

>> No.20596454

>>20596148
lack of moderation with schizo shit. Retards spamming the board trying to force a "yab"

>> No.20596562

>>20593522
Nijisanji doesn't even have internal unity kek.

>> No.20596582

>>20596454
This.

At any given time there’s three different threads covering the exact same drama nonsense and it needs to be cleaned up. We don’t need half the board talking about the same shit with schizos samefagging in all of them.

>> No.20596667

>>20593522
I may watch more Hololive than Nijisanji but I too support Unity

>> No.20596688

>>20593522
i love my oshi, not her company

>> No.20596720

>>20596413
Rosemi and Ina are good though.

>> No.20596745

I used to like both EN branches but I cannot watch niji’s anymore with all the guys just inserting themselves into every single stream. Used to love Elira but she has serious desire for their cocks and it doesn’t feel fun to watch anymore. Even Rosemi will bring them up randomly during kino yugioh streams and I just tune out. It’s a real shame.

>> No.20596791

I don't watch much Nijisanji but there are a couple girls I really like. There are also a couple girls in Kawaii and Prism that I watch too.

>> No.20597070

>>20596562
>Birthday live tomorrow
>Only a handful of guests, only one is notable
>There'll be at least 7 other people streaming over it.

>> No.20597271

>>20593522
there are some geniuses in NijiJP and some ok to great vtubers in NijiEn like Nina but 1. I dont understand enough japanese to watch their jp talents, and 2. I'm not lonely enough to financially support tribalistic westerners

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>>20596720
no
en hate

>> No.20597406

>>20597070
Those guests are her friends who she debuted with

>> No.20597483

>>20593522
Not really, but if it stops these faggots from fighting and shitting every single thread then I'm all for unity

>> No.20598125

>>20596582
And now it's impossible for people to talk about anything else withoutfallingoff the boardin 30 minutes. Great job shitting where you eat schizos

>> No.20598291

>>20595931
Kiara and Mori are the only ones who gave a shit about NijiEN, the yab didn't really change much.

>> No.20598496

>>20593522
I'm not really interested in Hololive myself but the constant shitposting war or whatever is super fucking obnoxious so I support unity.

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>> No.20598656

>>20593522
I want Kiara and Pomu to have sex in 3D models on stage

>> No.20598659

>>20594966
Based pikabro. She's pomu's kamioshi for a good reason!

>> No.20598839

>>20593522
Only watch Hololive and never Niji. This isn't out of some tribalfag hatred, Hololive just has way too many talents for me to keep up with as is. I don't dislike Niji's talents, even that Discord leak is so unbelievably mild I just don't give a shit.

>> No.20598910

>>20594871
I don't actively watch them, but I do watch collabs that they happen to be in.

>> No.20599063

>>20594871
If Vshojo keeps in their own lane and their degeneracy doesn't influence hololive there really is no reason for me to shit on them.
I think it's great when there's different strokes for different folks, really. Experience, however, taught me, that the more obscene, sensational alternative will sooner or later corrupt the other.
This is why I like my chuubacorpos seperated.
I want to enjoy my cute, stupid, goofy hololive fantasy a bit longer. I'm not ready to let go yet. I hope it won't make room for the more crass form of entertainment in the near future. What can I say? I like the nerdy table of adorkable outcasts in the school cantine.

>> No.20599064

>>20593522
Like their vtubers, hate both of their fanbases. Simple as.

>> No.20599097

But what about Tsunderia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amYaCD0r9Iw

>> No.20599118

>>20594871
The only one I dislike from vshojo is Veibae

>> No.20599173

>>20596745
I'm not a unicorn and don't care if they're guys but it's annoying. i just want time alone with the streamer i'm watching

>> No.20599245

>>20594871
I just don't want to go to Twitch so vshoujo is just completely off my radar.

>> No.20599294

>>20598291
all it changed is that Mori's not following Fulgur, lol
They probably hashed things out like adults

>> No.20599341

I hate both fanbases equally. Especially the EN.

>> No.20599371

>>20596582
Honestly, the indie drama threads I'm okay with because indie fans aren't anywhere as tribal and keep to themselves. They don't at least create threads specifically to stir up drama like the anti-Nijisan (and occasionally anti-Holo) threads we see every day.

>> No.20599431

>>20595238
I've seen hard doxx and 3D porn stay up for over an hour if its deep in a thread that for some reason no jannie cares to read

>> No.20599622

>>20599431
I remember one situation with a innocent FNF thread that devolved into a shitfest over night since it was ignored by jannies, no idea what exactly happened there but it's a good example of how bad these things can get.

>> No.20599674

>>20593522
Yeah same. Got nothing else to add.

>> No.20600720

I’m more of a NijiEN and indie fan now but I still keep up with the Holos since I like a lot of them. What I really hate is tribalfags and the corpo sides of both companies that sometimes make decisions that feed the tribalfags

>> No.20600807

>>20593522
both are good, Nijisanji for some reason feels a lot more relaxed and casual in comparison to hololive somehow but hololive has those good production values.

They're good in their own ways.

>> No.20600906

>>20593522

Not to discredit the individual talents, but Nijisanji as a company looks like they are interested in quantity over quality.

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>>20594871
iron mouse is funny
melody is cute
the pink cat is ok
i forget the others existed

>> No.20600988

>>20594324
"tsunderia tribals" is a /#/'s meme

>> No.20601014

yah I watch both and enjoy both. I also watch indies and small corps.
The shit slinging is almost certainly all seafags and autists. Sad!

>> No.20601044

>>20594871
I dislike most of them but I respect Mouse and have jacked off to Mel before so she’s alright

>> No.20601078

>>20593522
I love Ame and Rosemi the most. Wish they could collab.

>> No.20601095

>>20593522
My oshi was bullied by their menheras so no

>> No.20601158

>>20593522
Don't watch Niji purely because of time issues (I barely am able to catch Holo streams anyway) and I have nothing against either the talents, company or the fanbase itself.

But goddamn, the shitflinging you usually see in social media does get tiring, tho I blame 5ch for spreading unhinged and absolute retard tribalism and the affiliate scum who gets ad revenue profit by baiting and flaming both sides whenever there is an even remotely possible yab.

>> No.20601159

>>20600906
They are, a thousand boring vtubers with no talent.

>> No.20601334

>>20601158
>the affiliate scum who gets ad revenue profit by baiting and flaming both sides whenever there is an even remotely possible yab.
It's still funny to me that, despite how much it gets posted on here, even dramatubers who get paid for it looked at the NijiEN discord leaks and went "Oh, this is literally nothing".

>> No.20601382

>>20600988
Since when does /#/ care about any group that isn't Holo or Niji?

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>>20593522
Both is good.

>> No.20601608

>>20593522
Got bored of Nijisanji. Hololive is unique, Nijisanji just wants to be streamers but with 2d avatars. Just like the rest of corpos.

The image that Hololive goes for is vastly more appealing to me

>> No.20601899

>>20594966
do you like niji id for hana back then? i mean she used to play with pikamee... i liked her back then for it, but now idk... i just want to watch pikamee

>> No.20603705

are there any female vtubers who aren't fags or don't yuribait

>> No.20603793

>>20593522 (OP)
Got bored of Hololive. Nijisanji is unique, Hololive just wants to be streamers but with 2d avatars. Just like the rest of corpos.

The image that Nijisanji goes for is vastly more appealing to me

>> No.20603940

>>20593522
I don't really like either company, but I like streamers from both. not sure why you would limit yourself to one company.

>> No.20603944

Honestly enjoy all three companies only recently getting into niji and somewhat new to holo though.

>> No.20604664

>>20603705
Like don’t yuribait at all? Not that I can think of since it’s such a common joke. Most vtubers will be straight or at least bi, it’s just a matter of how open they are about talking about guys on stream

>> No.20606295

>>20593798
Why do you own a gaming keypad when you have a keyboard?

>> No.20606669

I only watch Holo for big events now, mostly a Niji fan now. I've been watching a lot of smaller corpos now as well.

>> No.20608065

>>20603793
Same. I'm proud of Hololive for building up what they created into something huge, but honestly I don't find their daily content to be interesting anymore.
I grown to prefer Nijisanji and love how they promote variety over unity, thus it helps if you have your own preferred interest instead of 15 vtubers playing Pokemon or Undertale for a week straight at the same time.
Yes, one corp is significantly popular than the other, but I don't really care for popularity otherwise I wouldn't be watching Vtubers in the first place.

>> No.20608074

>>20593522
Tribalfags are so stupid, they make me remember the console wars. People fighting over who has more views or money like they were their managers or something....so cringe.
Personally my oshi is Selen but i like watching fauna sometimes.

>> No.20608399

kinda shitty how everyone compares them. Views and money. can’t they all be friends, collab with whoever. While we sit back and enjoy the content?

>> No.20608622

>>20603705
most of the en vtubers are openly gay
so no luck to that anon...
i wish one of you nigger became vtuber instead and openly speak like a nigger and keep saying nigger

>> No.20609088

>>20593522
Never watched Niji
Anyone in NijiEN with a soft and relaxing voice like Fauna or with a low voice like Mori or Kronii?

>> No.20609172

>>20595931
Discord yab won't change friendship tho. Everyone who works a decent white collar job would shit talk at their rival company, but remain friends with the rival's employees. Literally happens every few minutes in wall street

>> No.20609185

>>20608399
If a certain company would drop the collab outside of it's own ban, these wars wouldn't exist in the first place. But hey, business is business after all.

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Post chuubas you sub to

>> No.20609319

>>20594871
That's the outlier, I watch everyone BUT vshojo. If I want to watch that kind of content, might as well watch facecam streamers

>> No.20609480

>>20609088
As far as soft voice goes there's Millie(ASMR vtuber like Fauna) or Petra(Quiest like Mumei). Low-voice wise, there's Nina and Reimu.
Ironically NijiEN Gen 3 is what you'll might be into, but Enna is my favorite out the bunch.

>> No.20609498

>>20608622
i hate women

>> No.20609563

>>20609263
I rather not reveal my power level and get laughed at, but you have a based list.

>> No.20609865

>>20608622
>most of the en vtubers are openly gay
Even worse, they're bi and only act straight when chad comes to visit.

>> No.20610144

>>20609088
Petra is my favorite chuuba to fall asleep to because of how soft her voice is

>> No.20610196

Both have strengths and weaknesses, but they're more similar than different. Overall I probably watch 50% Niji, 40% Holo, 10% indie, but part of that is obviously stream frequency.

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>>20609263
with kson under all thst

>> No.20610349

Tired of tribalism bros....I think all the Holomems and Nijisanji should hold a gigantic peace orgy

>> No.20610374

>>20593522
I like NijiJP and don't mind the EN girls, I don't watch the males. It's their fans who are annoying.

>> No.20611935

>>20593522
JP unity. All the subhuman ENs and IDs can fuck off.

>> No.20612149

Everytime I watch a NijiEN girl clip my youtube feed gets flooded with gay af Luxiem crap. Yeah nah, everytime Niji stuff comes up its a dont recommend from me.

>> No.20612258

>>20593522
I like most of HoloJP and only even know a few NijiJP girls. I kinda like most of HoloEN but watch nearly every single NijiEN girl.
The only indog is Risu.
The only male I watch is Roberu.

>> No.20612387

I hate both. Indie 2 views are the way to go.

>> No.20612629

>>20612387
Recommend me your 2view

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>>20593522
I was watching Holofes while also watching Sonny play MGR on the other screen I love both.

>> No.20612972

>>20593522
I like both and the smaller groups like Prism/Phase/Tsunderia and some indies too. Tribalism is fuckin stupid

>> No.20614143

>>20593522
kys stupid heretic
t. unityfags

>> No.20615065
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20615065

>>20593622
precisely this

>> No.20615149

My tastes aren't as broad as a fucking company. I like a handful of girls from either of these + other corpos and indies.

>> No.20615169

>>20593622
yes.

>> No.20615437

>>20593522
I've only really looked into Pomu and Selen on the Niji side, but they're both pretty funny and creative. Glad people are able to be signed by corpos that aren't Holo and find success.

>> No.20617461

>>20593846
Newfag alert

>> No.20617482
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20617482

>>20593522

Mostly Holo here; I've been trying to dip my toes into Niji more but thanks to wagecuckery I usually just wind up with more Holo VODs to watch first.

Rosemi is cute as a button, though.

>> No.20617653

>>20601899
Hana will forever be based for her eceleb comment alone.

>> No.20617671

>>20595238
The jannies are, fairly or unfairly, stuck dealing with making sure global doesn't explode about 23/24 hours of the day.

>> No.20618267

>>20593798
I'd like VShoujo more if they could at least spend a little time being ladies and not horny, sailor-swearing whores for like 10 minutes.

It's ok to be a little raunchy but honestly it's like non-stop hormones and toilet jokes.

>> No.20618344

>>20609480
>>20610144
I should've said they need to have tits as well, I always take tits for granted when watching the vtubers I like so I kinda forget that's an important part.

>> No.20618800

>>20593522
I watch a few girls from both companies. Hololive has just the right amount of wholesome, whereas Nijisanji can be chaotic as fuck like in a certain off collab today. Some days I'll have an appetite for one more than the other, just like how you can alternate between 2d and 3d porn.

>> No.20622556

>>20618267
Is there a Vshojo who isn’t lewd?

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