/#/ - Numbers

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Previous: >>19691658

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

Tomorrow’s gold already secure with he-Ayame or there are challengers to it?

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>>19700906
"Pekora pulling something out of her ass could beat this" territory

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>>19700906
33,5k is slippage territory
but it is Monday and that usually means less streams

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>>19700906
I'd put it at odds-on to win but certainly not secure

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Time zone matters. Please go back to your usual noon time slot during weekends, Pekora.

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>>19701174
Wut? Pekora is priming the pump for Kiara

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Expected numbers for IRyS birthday stream?

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ is declining.

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>>19700751
Pochi mama

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>>19701273
45k

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>>19701273
33k for a normal birthday stream
60k if she can do a surprise outfit reveal

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>>19701273
Sub 20k.

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>>19701348
shouldn't it be "reclining"?

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>>19701273
Depends on the JP guests she can get

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>>19701640
>surprise outfit reveal
thats the kind of thing you should announce before hand..

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>>19701709
Try checking the dictionary ESL-chama.

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>>19700751
>That style
Is Pochi also jumping ship from Hololive?

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>>19701826
Don't shitpost with the loving mother Pochi.

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>>19701209
When will it be my turn to pump Pekora though

[Anonymous No.]

reminder before the thread goes full retarded

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>>19701826
>2 years ago
Oh nyoo.

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>>19701826
Pochi has always been a unitychad

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>>19701742
>imagine being this newfag

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>>19702169
Guaranteed Prism Project artist

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>>19702309
Yes I know people use recline here all the time.

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>>19702169
DEKAI!

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>>19701273
She's about on par with Bae and should be a typical holo EN birthday stream, so about 20k

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>>19702309
>imagine being ESL

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Ranking anon will screw Flare out of another ranking like the anti he is. A stream is still 10k if it happens at 1:30 in the morning.

[Anonymous No.]

Retarded take on /#/ from >>19698030

1. Graphs became pointless after CCVID because there's no way to tell how someone performs anymore and Luxiem seems unculled for most parts
2. Coping with SCs. 11 talents vs 20 talents going full-on milking events & buffed games on top of streaming daily lol

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>>19702529
Eh let them have their fun

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>>19702529
I don’t know what you’re talking about but he’s a retard for making his post and you’re a retard for linking it here.

In this thread usually the raw numbers are posted, sometimes aggregated through time.
Some anons make esoteric “ratio” mystery meat calculation and they get called out for the retard “ratiocoper” they are.

[Anonymous No.]

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>20,384: Gura (Hololive)
>18,232: Vox (Nijisanji) *see note*
>16,853: Petra (Nijisanji)
>15,402: Mori (Hololive)
>12,034: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,661: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,847: Alban (Nijisanji)
>7,620: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>6,918: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,371: Ike (Nijisanji)
>6,019: Uki (Nijisanji)
>5,166: Yugo (Nijisanji)

*concerning Vox's peak*
Vox peaked at like 21k just edging out Gura, however he peaked well after the typical cut off point we use for these lists.

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>>19700906
Pekora has to beat Genichiro in Sekiro, the first difficult boss for newbies. She has already spent around an hour today so she will either beat him and beat Touya's numbers at the same time, or won't be able to beat it and thus won't be able to build up a consequent audience to beat Chinman.

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>>19702830
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 20,384 (Within Skerry)

Hololive - 5
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>72,274: Hayase (Nijisanji)
>41,807: Akina (Nijisanji)
>37,046: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,300: Lamy (Hololive)
>25,151: Korone (Hololive)
>23,466: Miko (Hololive)
>22,978: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,398: Vox (Nijisanji)
>21,000: Hayase (Nijisanji)
>20,330: Gura (Hololive)
>18,638: Miko (Hololive)
>18,437: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,804: Petra (Nijisanji)
>15,285: Calli (Hololive)
>15,061: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,523: Lui (Hololive)
>13,101: Noel (Hololive)
>12,594: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,574: Mito (Nijisanji)
>12,166: Furen (Nijisanji)
>12,024: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,923: Mio (Hololive)
>11,916: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,230: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,775: Watame (Hololive)
>10,317: Fubuki (Hololive)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19702830
kys

Also I hate Vox, but it doesn't really matter where the cutoff point is - it's either yesterday or today, so might as well have Vox winning yesterday

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>>19702830
We know that but you know very well those people will never accept that.

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>>19702938
Why would you want to change something that has been done for months already?

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>>19702984
Might slip to Irys

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>>19702984
So that it aligns with the actual tally numbers >>19702933

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>>19702035
I found it curious that Vox's twitter was the first thing that popped up when searching for his debut date.
So I decided to check what normally pops up when searching for Nijigirls vs Luxiem.
This might give some indication on which platform the livers interact most with their fans, as well as how many new people are checking them out (likely to click the Wiki) and do volunteer fanwork (keeping the wiki updated).

Pomu Rainpuff : Youtube > Twitter > Wiki
Elira Pendora : Youtube > Wiki > Twitter
Finana Ryugu : Twitter > Youtube > Wiki

Selen Tatsuki : Youtube > Twitter > Wiki
Petra Gurin : Youtube > Twitter > Wiki
Rosemi Lovelock : Youtube > Wiki > Twitter

Enna Alouette : Wiki > Twitter > Youtube
Millie Parfait : Wiki > Twitter > Youtube
Reimu Endou : Wiki > Twitter > Youtube
Nina Kosaka : Twitter > Wiki > Youtube

Vox Akuma : Twitter > Youtube > Wiki
Luca Kaneshiro : Wiki > Twitter > Youtube
Shu Yamino : Youtube > Wiki > Twitter
Ike Eveland : Wiki > Youtube > Twitter
Mysta Rias : Youtube > Wiki > Twitter

For comparison's sake, I searched for Holocouncil as well -

Tsukumo Sana : Youtube > Twitter > Wiki
Nanashi Mumei : Wiki > Twitter > Youtube
Ceres Fauna : Youtube > Wiki > Twitter
Ouro Kronii : Youtube > Wiki > Twitter
Hakos Baelz : Wiki > Youtube > Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>19702984
Cutting point for the final tally is 1AM JST

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, the start of the week again, Monday. A new week for Hololive to win daily again, and for Nijis to get 1 day out of the week.

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>>19702830
>Vox peaked at like 21k just edging out Gura, however he peaked well after the typical cut off point we use for these lists.
It's a horseshit rule and I say this as a holofan. The day a stream starts is the day that stream's peak is applied.

Also there is no such thing as an EN medal and I really wish it never got started.

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>>19703037
this

I say this as a chumbud too

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>>19703021
So that means Vox got 21k. Vox wins if you want to keep it consistent.

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>>19703037
>>19703074
>1 min apart
Samefag

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>>19703007
You need to accept the reality a this point . This would never happen months ago but now you are bitching a trying to change the rules you for your fucking whore. Pathetic as fuck

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Why would anyone bother making EN tally legitimate or take it seriously? It was a meme someone made weeks ago

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>>19703007
Tally anon cuts off at 1AM, Vox got 21k at 12:53AM. Vox won.

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>>19703037
Kill yourself, Vox.

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>>19703152
He didn't get that at that point

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>>19703007 (me)
>>19703152
Yes that's my point, Vox should have won yesterday. EN gold is already stupid, but using different numbers than the actual tally is completely retarded.

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>>19703151
Nijinnigers need something and know they want to change the rules. Whats next. Hole Females CCV, VODS and Subs doesn't count except for Niji males?

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>>19703204
He got before 1AM JST, and you can walk back and see in the last thread: >>19696292

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>>19701724
>JP guest
Which JP could she even invite? I don’t remember any JP at all interested in her, let alone coming to her birthday

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>>19703268
he didn't he was cut off you like or not thats the reality:
>>19702830

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>>19703298
Anya likewise but her reverse totsu was a blast

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>>19703298
Sora
I'd be surprised if she doesn't.

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>>19703298
She's collabed with Sora. She's RM collabed with Mel and AZKi before too. Tons of people show up to these things even if it's the first time they met.

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>>19703037
seething vox

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>Irys not doing a countdown stream
Yeah, she's eating pretty well with those albums & songs

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>>19703297
>source: shitposting
of course whats next vox get 100k on 1 minute?

[Anonymous No.]

>EN gold
>actual tally numbers don't matter if I say they don't
>cull doesn't matter if I say it doesn't
>combined ccv
>VOD views
This is the future you chose /#/

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>>19703375
I hope she announces an outfit reveal on her birthday or a 2.0 remodel to change the structure of her face

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NijiEN numbers shouldn't even be counted for at least a week or two for being outed as councilschizos.

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>>19703297
If you can show proof he was at 21k before 1am JST than I will change the EN good list.

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>>19703298
i can only safely say sora and maybe holoX, her stream is at 12PM jst, the only JPs awake at that time are most likely Lamy (who never calls) and holoX girls, i doubt iRyS invited many people from JP.

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>>19703335
>>19703337
>>19703350
Well there’s hope now

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>>19703403
>EN Gold is a meme, just reply with a kys and be off
>Tally numbers are the real deal

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Predictions for Vox reaching 1m subs?

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>>19703470
>EN gold is a meme
Tell that to the cumbuds and nijiniggers shitting up the thread.

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1k reached by orange Hinano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B8ZxNiHuio
Do all cute Japanese girls play APEX?

Also, when is this uitate getting a vtuber model? The design's been set for like 2 years.

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>>19703037
retarded take, you dont even relize the consequences of what you are suggesting.

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Look you can either accept that a special event Vox stream barely mogs a regular Gura stream yesterday... or Vox mogs IRyS birthday stream today.

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>>19703536
Gura wins actual gold, Niji livers themselves are shitting up this thread being manipulative cunts and shitposting.

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>>19703403
>VOD views
What's wrong with it?

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>>19703298
Sora, Watame and Mio. Miko has invited her twice foe group collabs and Korone had played with her offline. Botan, Mel and Gen6 usually shows up too. Polka and Haachama might show up

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>>19703681
It's just cope to ignore the fact that Cover cares infinitely more about VOD views than CCV.

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>>19703611
Be careful. thats Irys first birthday whe don't knwo what could happen yet

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>>19702529
i thought youtube doesn't show growth outside of 10k increments past 1m

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>event stream beats random kusoge
Oh nyo~

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>>19702830
>gerrymandering
my sides

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>>19703724
Let's be real here, she probably won't even break 20k. VSinger + model debuff hits pretty hard.

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>>19703453
This is stupid. Bae pretty much disproves this and you also forget that SportsFes Event where only Suisei was late

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Oh, look at that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9EHlw7t3g
Hinano new outfit reveal in 4 days.

With her recent incline with linked events, and Nose/Sumire's last outfit numbers, expecting at least 30k.

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>>19703543
she'll get an actual model around the time she stops paywalling her vods

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>>19703451
>If you can show proof he was at 21k before 1am JST than I will change the EN good list.

https://vrabi.ml/video/zNJf_lyI87Q

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>>19703698
>Watame
It's at noon JST, sheep doesn't wake up until 6 or 7 pm most days

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>>19703762
Nah. All of her solo events so far is all above 15k. It will be easy to get 20k for her for a totsu

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>>19702830
>>19702911
kys

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>>19703794
>at least 30k
Six months ago (or so) I learned my lesson when I said
>no way, 14k tops
and got burned by a number of more or less the magnitude you’re putting forward.

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>>19703833
Watame is already asleep. She can make it.

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>>19703826
Congratz, you won the special olympics.

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>>19702933
Flare Ass because tally anon clearly hates her

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>>19703908
LIES!

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>>19703037
quit samefagging your own post, Jesus Chrust

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>>19703412
I'm one of the people called "council schizo"
I don't like NijiEN and hate anything Nijisanji. I just expect better and the only one I really anti are Fauna, sometimes Kronii. I'm very disappointed as a human being in Sana. Bae is great and Mumei just has grad school. I know when I was in grad school it'd drain my energy. Me calling for their immediate graduation and euthanization was hyperbole to show disapproval and an expression of my pain.

Please don't paint all posts critical of Council as some NijiEN schizo, it could just be a regular poster.

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>>19703861
Her half year anniversary stream peaked at 16.4k. If she does hit 20k on her birthday stream, it'll be a struggle even with the totsu tourist buff.

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>>19703908
https://vrabi.ml/video/261g8wrCtAc
>Hit 10k at 1:50AM
It's Susan who likes to keep her in the 9-10k area without hitting it for hours.

Wants to keep that ass under check.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/FsZtnUMwTzY
Miko once again watching Ame. Just in the past few days we’ve had:
>Miko watching Ame
>Noel watching Irys
>Okakoro watching Gura
>Lui head over heels for Mori and is visiting her house soon
I can’t wait for the eventual HoloOrgy event in JP when EN finally goes

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>>19703908
>>19704065
This. I've been telling you he is a Flare anti because he invented one rule that hurts only Flare and maybe Watame.

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>>19703826
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>21,483: Vox (Nijisanji)
>20,384: Gura (Hololive)
>16,853: Petra (Nijisanji)
>15,402: Mori (Hololive)
>12,034: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,661: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,847: Alban (Nijisanji)
>7,620: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>6,918: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,371: Ike (Nijisanji)
>6,019: Uki (Nijisanji)
>5,166: Yugo (Nijisanji)

I'm a man of my word

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>>19704262
I kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704262
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 21,483 (400k Endurance + Celebration)

Hololive - 4
Nijisanji - 2
Others - 0

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>>19702830
Imo you should follow what's on the final tally to keep it consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704343
Slow-chama...

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>>19704262
>90% of viewers are JP/CN
>Vast majority of donations are JP/CN
>Streams entirely in JP hours
>Is EN
Yeah. Nah. Lets just take NijiEN out of the list

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>>19702869
Also depends heavily on whether Flare is overlapping her again. Player skill matters and Flare is already way ahead of her despite starting later than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704257
Maybe he hates Watame, not Flare

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>>19704076
That whore is whining about PekoMiko not existing anymore because the fans were too eager to have a Collab between them both every single day at their peak, so she decided to not Collab anymore with Pekora to avoid any conflict with the other Holomembers, but this same whore is pushing towards other ships by herself.
I swear I can't understand that retard.

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>>19704262
Know nijiniggers will start shipostings even more ignoring CCVID and everything until Irys destroy them in a few hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704262
Now...Hornypost him!

It is tradition, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704375
maybe they deserve be a CCV China gold and all NijiEN move out the with their CN branch. EN name is just decoration.

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>>19704416
It’s simple, anon. She’s just emphasizing what Pekora said, not her own feelings about it. She’s been burnt hard by her and doesn’t want to cause trouble. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t want to dive right into Ame’s tits

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>>19704475
The only time EN gold got horny postings is when one IRyStocrat spammed IRyS images after she got gold for her Valentines day Caraoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704414
IRyS has a bad case of CCVID though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704475
fuck off zhangs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704416
It feels more like a well prepared PR response after realizing she dropped the ball during the poll stream and bred more rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19703990
Not really, no. You don't see why half year anniversary is less of a buff than a birthday?
Here, let me show you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704521
IRyStocrats are very passionate. I'll give them that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704416
Stop complaining. She know what she is getting into, no need for anon on 4chan to point that out for her
Not like we can do anything to stop her anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704397
nobody hates watame, but half-elves on the other hand..

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704572
Put a better example. Gura is just abnormal in many ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704572
This was a year ago back when EN tourists were still plentiful. Most of them have already fucked off and all that's left are the regular stream watchers + JP tourists + CCVID.

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>>19704606
Watamates and sheep posters are some of the worst people on this website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704527
Yup

She had hit 100% poll participation b/w 3 and 4 min recently: >>/vt/thread/S19516952#p19522081
(along with 8 min waiting room recovery in that stream)

[Anonymous No.]

How is the debuff detective fucking up what should be SSS tier buff content? Even with low CCV because CCVid or people not knowing, kino streams get high VODs. See Gura events or the male Council stream with a very respectable VOD.

But Ame can't even get those. What the fuck happened? She was the nr 2 once, the goddamn Miko to Gura's Peko.

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>>19704638
She had playback on for all of her elden ring streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19702169
>The confirmed het hating dyke nurse
She doesn't know, does she...

[Anonymous No.]

In the last 7 days, Vox has made $63,000

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704475
Hornypost is only for real gold, not made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704511
>She’s just emphasizing what Pekora said
Yep, PekoMiko sank for the same reason PekoMoona and TakaMori sank, and for the same reason Flare told the fanbase to stop with that “married” bit, and for the same reason ShishiLami and HaaWata cooled down
>neither Pekora nor Cali or Flare, or Botan or Haachama wanted to be typecast as part of a “duo” and pumped the breaks

The only “duo” that doesn’t mind at all is OkaKoro, and mostly because they’re likely an item IRL (even if no homo)

[Anonymous No.]

Shion member stream at 4 in the morning

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704858
Uoh? Bad omen?

[Anonymous No.]

shout out to my nigga fulgur and his never-ending desire to numberfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704879
>member stream
Why would it be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704756
Neat. I think Miko has sold like 300k in merch in the past 2 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>Chloe entering elden ring arc
Yeah, she not catching up with Vox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704879
Not really, it's just her typical zoomer behaviour

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704939
You're coping. Vox is the #1 superchatted channel in the world now. Above all the holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704624
Fine, here you go.
Chimkin 6 month, 11k https://holo.poi.cat/stream/zWMTD1XfwRA
Chimkin birthday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV7skgKTMd4 38k (!!)

If anything, Gura is a bad example because her birthday didn't have a big totsu, just Myth, unlike Kiara who had more girls to draw on. And there are far more girls who can call in now.

>>19704630
I'm arguing that Birthday buff>>>>6 month anniversary and I provided proof. It Irys got 16 on the anniversary, she can break 20 on birthday.

[Anonymous No.]

Recently saw that TakaMori did a fashion review with Omocat. Seeing all the pictures of actual fans posting with the merch... it really makes you feel a lot more connected since you KNOW that these people are cheering for you..

And then obviously I tried to think of what fan content stuff I've seen from the Niji side.
Iirc, they did a meme review right? And I think Pomu did a room review?
Does any NijiEN watcher have a list of fan-created content that has served as main channel content for the NijiENs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705021
That's not how it's work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704970
She just isn't the same after her mother's passing. She kinda feels more "casual" now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704262
Petra 16K??? wtf did she do? omg petra??! hahahahahha she's mogging holo en Petra ahahahahhahahahaa holoniggers in shambles no wonder the chinese flag the cope is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705048
Speak English properly dumbass.
And yes, that is how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704939
10 minutes she had 280k

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704729
Hey retard, Ame’s stream was going on while Gura was streaming to 20k people, along with Noel streaming and Koyori doing an English stream. The fact that she hit that high a number and still has pretty respectable vod views is okay.

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>>19704729
Ame relies on two things for peak CCV:
1) gimmicks
2) opportunities to go full gremlin

In this case, the buff Ame gimmick already played itself out.

She's also been trying to tone down her toxicity and not playing rage inducing games that can bring out her inner gremlin.

Add to that her irregular streaming schedule (due to health and la creatividad), constant guerilla streams, desire not to be seen as a Gura accessory, and that's what you get.

Come to think of it, she's actually kind of in a similar situation to Haachama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705066
Wasn't it her grandma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704076
>noel watching irys
source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704638
poor irys she doesnt deserve all this shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705066
*grandmothers

>>19704939
>>19704756
These numbers are both great but have little to do with each other outside of the context of what is more valuable between merch and SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705045
Niji’s connection with their fans is taking their money and giving the minimum in return. Please understand bao bao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705040
Again, this was all a year ago back when EN tourists still checked in on big events. Most of them are gone now so you won't be seeing these big spikes in viewers for event streams like birthdays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704729
>Long breaks
>Scared away the gurame /u/schizos live, demonstrating those fuckers were a noticiable part on her viewership
>Constantly say she doesn't care about numbers and only wants to play vidya
>Her favorites stream choices, outside Apex and Oblivion, are debuff 2deep4u indie games
>Tommy hort breaks besides the long breaks
Like Sana and Kronii, she killed her growth due autism but unlike Sana at least she streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704729
Variety content brings good numbers but has short gas based on how creative a streamer can be. Hence it's bad to have it as your normal content/identity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705045
>it really makes you feel a lot more connected since you KNOW that these people are cheering for you..
I don’t know exactly what you’re talking about exactly but if you like this sort of content Haachama does a contest or another every week or two.

She also not only select the absolute BEST entries but also the WORST too for the lulz.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704939
Sakura Miko Birthday Celebration 2022 - 1 hour

Birthday Merch Complete Set 3693 $97.00 $358,221.00
Rubber Mat 196 $25.00 $4,900.00
Loose-Fit T-shirt 223 $37.00 $8,251.00
Triple Keychains 97 $13.00 $1,261.00
35P Plushie 332 $25.00 $8,300.00
$380,933.00

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705210
Nah. It's a Sunday on her regular timeslot where noone is supposedly streaming at the same time this time. She should be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705210
You have literally no evidence of this. Irys got 16k on a recent event stream. Bae got 19.6k days ago. 20k isn't that big a deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705159
>17:50:24 白銀ノエル アイリスちゃんジャンプ攻撃うまい!!ファイトだあああああ!!!
From this:
https://youtu.be/ocQSSdsrFN8
4:49:33 you can skip to yaya

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705343
Is Bae hitting 19.6k on her birthday stream not evidence that hitting 20k is going to be a struggle for IRyS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705295
Someone doesn't know what margins are..

[Anonymous No.]

how much money hayase did on her 3D?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705390
https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1500552326456610818?s=21
Bitch not if Korone could help it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704729
no one else in EN can overlap gura without buff stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705045
>for NijiEN
Tough to do when 90% of your fanbase are Chinese who can barely understand English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705284
kek yeah, I love her audience interaction streams, especially the R-18 ones. Her model has one of the best "surprised" faces so it's fucking hilarious watching her react to all the stuff people draw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705192
Yeah selling 300k in merch does not mean making 300k dollars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705446
A couple JP tourists isn't going to make it easier for her to hit 20k when she gets viewers than Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705420
Beats YT+corpo cuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705541
fewer* missed a word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705368
>put those foolish ambitions to rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705549
Does it? 40% would be good for merch (which also has corpo cuts as they own the ip)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705512
Pomu did a room review of "Otaku collection" back in October last year and she had enough material for around 3 hours of content.
I don't think anyone else in NijiEN has done fan content shoutouts. Do they even have fan content in the first place? (other than clout chasing fanartists ofc).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705541
I think by the time Irys started her stream, a lot of the other streams have started thus the reduction. She's not going to clash with anyone this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705390
IRyS is more popular than Bae. She will hit 20k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705541
>Using NYE relay as any inducator
Dude Irys never even hit her waiting room. Half of them couldn’t even hit it at that. Everyone and their mother thought Kronii was gonna hit 25k+ and it took until the end of the stream to hit it. CCVID was bad those days

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705753
They were all impacted by heavy CCVID, so the numbers should still be relatively correct unless you want to say that each member was affected differently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705671
Retardchama any product is actually pretty cheap to make, making it like 10-20%. The big corps spend all their money in trying to market it instead. And royalties you can only charge at best 10% when you invest nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705699
>>19705723
>>19705753
Another one.

[Anonymous No.]

Posting again since the schizos are asleep now.
Inclining holo covers list. Previous one here : >>19234757
If a song gets more NEW viewers this week than the last one, it's considered to be inclining.
New songs on their first week, as well as songs with view variance of under 5000 are ignored.
[*n] indicates an inclining streak of 'n' straight weeks (n > 1 obviously).
Here's the list for this week -

> Flos - Okayu (+11,263) [*2]
> Goodbye Sengen - Ayame (+16,018)

Barren week this time, might be due to the top slots mostly being filled with new songs.
I'm guessing this is a "normal" week for songs because they are still getting new views. Incline usually indicates something special happening or some new section of youtube finding the song.
Goodbye Sengen returns after breaking the streak last week. It's funny how the song seems to incline only when Ayame doesn't stream.
Flos doubles the incline from last week, I'm guessing it's the buff from hitting 10M.

Honorable mentions -

> Umapyoi Densetsu - Hololive ver. (+1,454)
> Envy Baby - Polka (+606) [*2]
> Sparkle - Mio (+176) [*2]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705897
IRyS segment of the dubbing stream had overlap while Bae had the time slot all to herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705956
I'm awake though.

[Anonymous No.]

How do we save Council?

[Anonymous No.]

Recently got thrown down the Suisei song clip rabbit hole again.
Not quite at the level of Gura, since almost all of Suisei's singing streams are public, but holy shit

The Kami-poi one has 620k views since Dec 17
https://youtu.be/gS_BVt-DjMg
Unravel - 920k https://youtu.be/sW0WaBoKrWw
I want it that way - 790k https://youtu.be/_2Idpr4y7uk

A lot of her hour long Medley are around 1 million views, equivalent to the "Gura playlists"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ha8oJK1u4
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtiZDRv1fv-AnFG1ZI99eob2beKZbB58H

I think both Gura and Suisei could go the SEA chuuba route of just uploading clips from their singing streams as "covers" and put them in a playlist for massive views.
But they care too much about quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705991
Why do people keep asking this question when only the Council members can save themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705671
Holo merch is 100% sold at a massive mark up and has huge margins. They are making bank on this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705991
Go away Fungus, nobody likes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706038
pay no mind to Fungus Covid, he is clinically retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705991
Give Mumei her degree

Get Kronii a boyfriend and corrupt her debuff game save files

Fauna... dunno don't really watch her due to her voice - more ASMR?

Bae is doing fine other than her being at odds with her "lore"

Resurrect Sana's dog and autocomplete her roommate's work

[Anonymous No.]

>Sana - [x]
Vox is here so far
>Fauna - [ ]
>Bae - [ ]
>Mumei - [ ]
>Kroni - [ ]

I will keep this updated don't worry

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705956
Goodbye Sengen - Ayame

This one is inclining as a byproduct of the Rushia + Mafumafu ones inclining for drama reasons.
The mashup now has 1.1 million views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hckdpe5eJ4
Huh, the Rushia + Aqua one is almost at 1 million too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jRQvj4o3KM

Am i blind btw? were Rushia's songs not ranked? Could have sword they both got over 100k since last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7lntHGYug

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706278
Imagine when he starts surpassing myth in subs.
I'm already preparing popcorn for the holobrony meltdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706278
Only that far? HoloEN passed up all of Nijisanji in just a couple months. Where's the ambition?

[Anonymous No.]

At this rate, Kiara might crawl to 10k slowly as she keeps struggling with Margit.
Her peak right now is 9.7k.

1 hour until Ina starts streaming the same game so it'll be a nice transition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706400
10k get just as she beat Margit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706400(me)
There it is.
Just as she beat Margit.
Unfortunately, I think she's done with this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706355
Anon, he'd have to pass Kuzuha first, also Mito and Kanae.
Can you imagine the shambles NijiJP (and the general) would be in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706678
>I think she's done with this game.
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704789
>>neither Pekora nor Cali or Flare, or Botan or Haachama wanted to be typecast as part of a “duo” and pumped the breaks
Amusing thing is it was pushed by Haachama to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706736
True but Haachama went through her biannual “shedding” process and threw away whatever audience she had picked up in the months prior, including the ones that boarded up because of HaaWata

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706278
At least make it visually appealing.

Kroni [670k]
Mumei [581k]
Bae [494k]
Fauna [476k]
>Vox [401k]
̶ ̶S̶a̶n̶a̶ ̶[̶2̶9̶8̶k̶]̶

I'd like to see something similar for Chloe's top 50 SC conquest as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706713
She just said she's probably going to play it a few more times this month, but she doesn't think she'll play it weekly or until the end of the game because it's too long (ironic considering her JRPG streams) and she thinks she'll play it more for co-op with Mori and other holomems.

I hope she keeps playing because these are the best game numbers Kiara has gotten in months.
Her first Elden Ring stream has 306k views, which is very high for a game stream from Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara dropping her only buff game after months just to play Yakuza
chicken your numbers...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706866
fuck off
mine is better

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705897
you are just using very dumb examples at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706820
The difference in activity on her channel now vs the same time last year is really incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

Council lives rent free in Nijisanji livers' mind and their fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707099
Better than examples from over a year ago during which viewer demographics have changed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707006
Literally going from the buffiest game she's played in months to one of the worst numbers games for an EN vtuber.

Thank god Ame's schedule and stream consistency is such a mess that she never picked up Yakuza 7 like she planned to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707237
Wait, is Yakuza actually a debuff game? Because 0 was a massive buff game for Subaru. And don't give me that "oh its the western audience who doesn't like it" shit because its a huge meme in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707237
>>19707305
this, sadly yakuza was never a buff game for ENs the only thing people like to see is the ''dame da ne'' song

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706344
I guess since Rushia is no longer part of holo he's not including them anymore?
I don't think I've seen any of Coco's songs either (but that could be due to less views).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707305
>And don't give me that "oh its the western audience who doesn't like it" shit because its a huge meme in the west.
You can compare the buff Subaru and Nene got from streaming Yakuza 7 and even Kiwami to how Kiara crippled her numbers for weeks with Yakuza 7.
For a more recent example, Finana has been playing Yakuza 0 and barely breaks 1k.

The Yakuza meme is just laughing at a few of the funny quests but the game itself is like 50 hours long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707376
Coco's Fansa did make a comeback for her anniversary and i think it was already this new guy at the time.
Plus Rushia's originals were still in the list 3 days ago and doing good numbers last week. It's pretty weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704789
Funnily enoug Shishilamy is still there but in a diluted version, look at some of their recent tweets and interactions.

They just seem to focus more on their individuality when streaming but irl they're still pretty close, heck when Shishiwata went to their date Botan made sure to buy Lamy some sake lol

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of 3D debuts, what are the chances Nijisanji expedite NijiEN's 3D debut and skip some of their JP/ID/KR senpais?

They can come up with some bullshit excuse like "oh btw, EN operates under different management and have their own staff".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19706706
>Can you imagine the shambles NijiJP (and the general) would be in?
real shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707528
just check the time period that he uses (in the title) it's usually a few days before the video releases. Might be the discrepancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707599
0%

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707599
Jesus Christ the shit storm would be massive if that happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704939
HAHAHA HOLOBROS ARE USING THE MERCH COPE NOW THAT THEY'RE LOSING IN SC'S

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707899
Milord too strong man

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707103
Same time last year I (as a Haaton) has already made peace with the fact she was burned out and graduating with a bang.

Boy, I RELISH the current calm streams, evening they’re low on numbers. Listening to her carefree laughs and general satisfaction gives me more pleasure than any number she could get

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707599
wait, because you made me check
>Niji int that could get 3D before EN:
- Hana Macchia
x Nun Bora
x Yuya Shin

Siska got to 100k after a lot of ENs did.
That list ain't long.

[Anonymous No.]

The nijifag is easy to bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707899
Nijisanji didn't sell any merch though.
Nijisanji sends them out for free to reduce storage fees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707899
it's not cope when you have the actual figures

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707963
The wait list will get shorter since there's another Nijisanji graduation in a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707954
Yeah I prefer it like this, but I'm not trying to get attached to it. Hopefully she can avoid really hard shifts in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707899
Scrape your talent's merch and let's see what you've got. I'm really curious. People here at least can post Holo numbers for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707988
>>19708043
HOLOCOPE RUMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708169
Where's your Nijisanji membership?
Oh wait, you are too poor. You couldn't even afford their merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708169
Do you have numbers for how much the Nijis made in merch sales?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707615
NijiJP general doesn't give a fuck about 90% of shit, this nijinigger boogeyman doesn't exist and is just shitposters

[Anonymous No.]

>>19707458
neither of them streamed yakuza 7
Subaru went Kiwami->0->kiwami 2
Nene started Kiwami because of mushiking
Yakuza defenetly was a debuff when Kiara streamed it (shortly after release) and it wouldn't surprise me if its still is since Yakuza 7 deviated from the standard game play form

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708275
> homo starts streaming
> thread went very peaceful
Nijilivers vent on /vt/.
It is known, Reimu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708224
Didn't respond to me either. He's probably crying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708443
Who knew they'd expose themselves so easily?

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, the Nijisanji covers chart also came out
https://youtu.be/ECGFd1_S0RA

Luca's Mafia is no 1 for a 2nd week in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708167
>>19708221
>>19708224
kek, merch cope. do holobronies really?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this pottery?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708662
Well we already knew Luxiem fans do their music reps, but this is quite absurd.
~900k in the first week and 400k in the 2nd week is a Suisei-level cover performance and Luca only just reached 300k subs.
Beating out Lauren's Kamippoi and being the #1 cover in Niji in general is also insane.
His fans are looping the fuck out of their songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708860
NTA but fungus please, i beg you to end this pointless argument already. I know you can ask for actual number from management. Show them who got the best total earning.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop replying to obvious bait guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708951
That's actually a very sharp drop for the 2nd week for such a popular cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19709095
50% is not a sharp drop anon, that's Gura levels retention if both weeks were similar in lenght.

See La+s new song, went from 950k to 240k, though the first week was a bit longer.
The Aqua Kanata song also went from 810k to 135k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2xmFu0UGDM

50% retention means it'll be in the top 10 for a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19709095
Also, hurr durr, obvious troll bla bla, i just wanted to post some numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19709356
La+ song is not a popular cover, but you are right about aqua + kanata, his number are good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19709095
It's not, 400k is pretty darn good for a 2nd week.
Most covers drop to 100k or less after the first week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704262
>3 niji 10k
>2 holo 10k
HoloEN is dying...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710008
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710008
Two of those Niji top 10's are special events and collabs. Uou know damn well that Petra will never hit 10k on her own, well, maybe her graduation would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19709356
>>19709923
speaking of covers, there is still 0 1M cover for IRyS right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710171
All of Irys's covers so far are Hololive originals so meh.
Ghost is the closest at 800k after 7 months.

Identity might be a good chance at a decent number, but at this point, Irysocrats have proven they don't do their music reps so who knows?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708951
Surprised it's doing that well considering the atrocious mixing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710171
FlopRyS...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710378
She will get another boost with the redesign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710337
I listened to a few more Mafia covers and they all sound heavily processed to the point of robotic.
Doesn't matter if the mixing is bad anyways when the fanbase is passionate enough, look at HoloMyth Country Roads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708054
which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710337
They don't care, it could be 4 minutes of fart noises and Luxiem chinks will still loop it 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710744
I mean, even the homostar shien got 1M on his mafia cover lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710859
seems very similar to how holodrones are with hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710907
In months, retard. Luca got 1 million in less than a week

[Anonymous No.]

Easy 10k get for Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>19708662
Hololive 2/26 - 3/4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7lntHGYug
10. miComet - Animal (234,732)
9. Laplus - Bitter Choco Decoration (239,632)
8. Hololive EN - Ochame Kinou (251,838)
7. Polka - Animal (288,543)
6. Flare - RGB (290,355)
5. Kanata - Fragile (433,847)
4. Mori and Gura - KING (434,881)
3. Laplus - Kamippoi (448,107)
2. Suisei - phony (512,876)
1. Council - Hikaru Nara (565,187)

Nijisanji 2/26 - 3/4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECGFd1_S0RA
10. Kuzuha - Vampire (142,731)
9. Toko - Henshoku (144,384)
8. Ngo - Grizzly Bear ni Osowaretara (145,465)
7. Akina - Ego Rock (153,340)
6. Lain - Venom (188,765)
5. Kuzuha - King (216,775)
4. Amamiya - Kyuukurarin (230,858)
3. Chima - Phony (319,463)
2. Lauren - Kamippoi (333,249)
1. Luca - Mafia (405,549)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710500
The songs are good, but almost all the verses are absolutely awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19710963
do you know who shien is? he should be far from getting 1m in any cover

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711026
yes, i know who shien is. He reached 1 million months and months later. there's a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji 3D Debut numbers updated with Hayase Sou

2020
Otogibara Era 01/08 52,685 (¥3,899,908)
Lize Helesta 01/22 60,200 (¥2,953,193)
Ange Katrina 02/10 67,985 (¥3,861,854)
Yashiro Kizuku 02/17 57,519 (¥1,178,735)
Gundou Mirei 02/20 46,149 (¥1,984,094)
Inui Toko 03/02 58,257 (¥3,074,279)
Yuzuki Roa 03/19 45,870 (¥1,741,264)
Suzuhara Lulu 03/27 47,289 (¥1,863,889)
Warabeda Meiji 06/19 30,406 (¥2,790,447)
Joe Rikiichi 06/26 43,418 (¥2,805,861)
Hanabatake Chaika 07/03 41,640 (¥2,654,243)
Mayuzumi Kai 07/10 69,384 (¥3,038,245)
Maimoto Keisuke 07/22 67,515 (¥1,723,168)
Ex Albio 08/08 68,695 (¥2,990,711)
Kagami Hayato 08/10 132,381 (¥10,269,624)
Ars Almal 08/14 76,407 (¥2,387,601)
Debidebi Debiru 08/18 119,092 (¥2,846,906)
Yorumi Rena 08/28 75,599 (¥2,594,634)
Kana Sukoya 09/12 67,234 (¥3,883,547)
Kakeru Yuemoi 10/09 49,764 (¥4,587,812)
Sakura Ritsuki 10/16 47,971 (¥2,628,547)
Hakase Fuyuki 10/23 68,187 (¥1,800,563)
Nui Sociere 11/06 72,873 (¥2,508,047)
Makaino Ririmu 12/04 56,781 (¥1,434,148)
Uzuki Kou 12/16 54,864 (¥4,056,336)
Hoshikawa Sara 12/19 86,419 (¥3,957,746)
Saegusa Akina 12/25 73,005 (¥7,509,846)

2021
Kanda Shoichi 02/12 49,644 (¥2,912,489)
Emma August 03/12 39,181 (¥1,241,889)
Yuhi Riri 03/19 46,515 (¥2,036,826)
Moira 03/27 27,859 (¥725,590)
Fumino Tamaki 04/09 50,470 (¥2,511,839)
Aiba Uiha 04/17 66,920 (¥2,225,236)
Ratna Petit 05/09 48,915 (¥2,453,501)
Aizono Manami 05/14 46,539 (¥1,241,597)
Amamiya Kokoro 05/28 73,118 (¥2,838,543)
Fuwa Minato 06/04 143,270 (¥16,358,272)
Shirayuki Tomoe 06/25 73,880 (¥11,395,114)
Ibrahim 07/02 117,475 (¥14,074,222)
Mashiro 07/10 74,700 (¥2,007,553)
Levi Elipha 07/16 74,924 (¥3,125,202)
Chima Machita 07/21:: 73, 777 (¥3,948,043)
Akabane Youko 08/13 :: 65,916 (¥1,173,173)
Furen E Lustario 08/28 :: 98,736 (¥5,856,797)
Melissa Kinrenka 09/09 :: 82,226 (¥2,788,208)
Matsukai Mao 09/22 :: 57, 604 (¥2,476,321)
Naraka 10/17 :: 52,577 (¥1,599,905)
Luis Cammy 11/05 :: 39,400 (¥2,480,915)
Fumi 11/12 :: 38,057 (¥1,911,598)
Hajime 11/19 :: 29,346 (¥1,272,521)
Mahiro 11/26 :: 26,388 (¥1,626,945)
Eli Conifer 12/03 :: 45,280 (¥2,496,416)
Onomachi Haruka 12/17 :: 25,131 (¥1,518,192)
Chigusa Nishizono 12/23 :: 55,289 (¥2,115,413)

2022
Hayase Sou 03/06 :: 72,468 (¥2,565,000)

Top 10 Peak viewers
1. Fuwa Minato 143,270
2. Kagami Hayato 132,381
3. Debidebi Debiru 119,092
4. Ibrahim 117,475
5. Furen E Lustario 98,736
6. Hoshikawa Sara 86,419
7. Melissa Kinrenka 82,226
8. Ars Almal 76,407
9. Yorumi Rena 75,599
10. Levi Ephelia 74,924

Top 10 Superchat
1. Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,272
2. Ibrahim ¥14,074,222
3. Shirayuki Tomoe ¥11,395,114
4. Kagami Hayato ¥10,269,624
5. Saegusa Akina ¥7,509,846
6. Furen E Lustario ¥5,856,797
7. Kakeru Yuemoi ¥4,587,812
8. Uzuki Kou ¥4,056,336
9. Hoshikawa Sara ¥3,957,746
10. Chima Machita ¥3,948,043

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711055
nvm, I see it now
Still, getting 10-20k on most videos is a big step down, she probably had some big yab or something since it doesn't work even with most subs being there for music

[Anonymous No.]

How bad would it be if nijien male gets a Taiwan-related incident?

[Anonymous No.]

how bad would it be if someone from holoEN had a rushia moment?

[Anonymous No.]

How bad would it be if a JP male had a Monica Lewinsky moment?

[Anonymous No.]

how bad would it be if Pikamee had an epstein moment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711010
Hololive with about 50% more views than Nijisanji in their top 10, pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711834
If Kuzuha fucked one of his buttbuddies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711010
Hololive songs really perform a lot better than Nipplesanji garbage don't they

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711939
yes holodrone-kun, so true

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711363
Not going to happen.
The reason why it got as bad as it did for Hololive has to do with the fact b2 wanted Hololive OUT of China. Nijisanji doesn't have anywhere near the level of pull Hololive was getting at its peak, and b2 doesn't seem like it'd be able to get away with the pure Himbo nonsense Luxiem is pulling anyways due to internal CCP rules, so keep dreaming. Unless someone intentionally tries to start something, expect it o be ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19711363
they already mentioned taiwan before and nothing happened. Unless they mention something like taiwan number 1 or some shit like that, they are safe. And Anycolor still has business relations with Bilibili anyway from VR and the bilibili concerts they do for other branches

[Anonymous No.]

>>19705991
Have Kronii play Minecraft again. Or anything besides rougelikes and indie puzzle games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712410
>Have Kronii play Minecraft again. Or anything besides rougelikes and indie puzzle games.
Kronii is the vtuber queen of debuff content.

[Anonymous No.]

Big news in the startup world. CyberLive double graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712107
You can cope all you want but the numbers are right in front of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712628
Why should we care? Shill them more you fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19704729
She must have killed her growth with all these breaks she keep taking and if you're not a member you wont even know why she's leaving or when she's coming back half the time.
In brief Ame is just way too inconsistent

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712785
This is /news/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19714188
Well, just another small corpo with fucked management most likely. She was promoted to management, saw what was behind the curtain and decided 'nope, don't want anything to do with that shit'

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712628
I'd laugh if Lumi joins Hololive considering she always shits on them on her private fan discord

[Anonymous No.]

>>19714418
Nah, no way Lumi becomes a Hololiver. Its most likely an april fools joke given the day its happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712628
>>19714418
>>19714735
Saw the name of this company thrown around a couple of times. Are they relevant? Any graduate of their went to Niji / Holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19714977
No. They only had one graduate a week or two ago and she has continued to be stream as an indie on Twitch using the same model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19714977
>Relevant
Only to /here/ in the grand scheme of things. Another of the small corpos
>Graduates to Niji/Holo
No, and most likely these two are staying independent after graduation.
>>19714735
Seems kinda dumb to be announcing it, but people do dumb shit so who knows?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712628
This company has a retarded business model, I figure they'll almost be forced to change it after this.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna is probably screwed doing her karaoke at this time, Ina is unlikely to give up much of her Elden Ring audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19715718
not just fauna, but haachama too...only 30 minutes after asamio started is pretty rough

[Anonymous No.]

>>19715623
>>19715628
It was a nice touch announcing it as “eloping”.
Wasn’t Okayu and Korone rumored to be certain pair in their PL that in a similar way got sacked in their small company and ended up together as holos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19715891
>but haachama too
Haachama Tetris is Haaton-only, there is no overlap with anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>19715916
Anon your PL rep, the one who's paired with korone is now in Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>unarchived karaoke sub 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>19715916
That is Toko and Korone

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716200
>4 minute waiting room recovery

[Anonymous No.]

>>19715977
wait really? fairly good with those numbers if true for previous tetris streams
looking at her previous graphs her rounds don't last enough to recover sometimes kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712628
Would be sadder if they didn't play it up so happily.
Also, since Lumi moved to Twitch haven't seen her much.

>>19714977
Lumi was talked about on this board quite a lot a few months back for being the /here/ vtuber a lot of anons had a crush on. Things happened, she got bigger and now fans mostly sat in their Cyberlive thread.
Recently Emma and Menace did relatively well because of how they used their models in shorts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716189
>>19716234
Oh! One more reason for this trade then!

[Anonymous No.]

>the EN tally has unironically become a more popular contest than the global tally

Where did it all go wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716343
Haachama is so Haaton-focused these days she didn’t dip at all when overlapping with Roboco anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716604
that schizo just loves samefagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716604
Counter-shitposting gone wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716604
Oh no no no, good faith posting bros not like this...

[Anonymous No.]

Stop it with the Identity covers.

The song sucks, at least the Chorus does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716234
Kinda funny that they both ended up as dog vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716763
Is this real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716604
There is nothing wrong with the EN tally and the fact that it makes you fags seethe so much is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

surprisingly strong for this hour i guess.
The top 3 would get max 8k in some other days at this hour, bottom 2 have regular numbers.

Lily also getting her usual 200 viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMVZ8ETeD0

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716763
I've only seen duets with it, so I'm curious how solo IRyS ver will go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717006
Anon...it's on the schedule ffs. It doesn't even take 30s to confirm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717085
Fauna borrowing about 2k from Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716813
Unfortunately, Toko will never reach the stature that Korone has attained after they parted ways. Without Suisei to prop up her career, her future would seem bleaker.
I think Toko's weakness is that she's just not that good of a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Fauna gets better karaoke numbers than Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717269
That's a weird way of saying being a female in Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717069
>the fact that it makes you fags seethe so much is hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717339
Her Karaoke streams do well. Everything else...

[Anonymous No.]

Runa is a workhorse. I think it's safe to say they have surpassed Nijisanji females by now. They're consistently second to Holos even on JP prime time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717300
Sorry, chimken voice is the ultimate debuff. Unless she made an announcement to drop it entirely I will NEVER tune in to her karaokes, because her voice makes me want to gouge my ears out. I can listen to SOVL karaoke all day in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717300
Kiara does her karaokes at noon EST. Saves her from being sleepy but otherwise it's not the best idea. Even Bae makes sure to do hers at a good time for NA even though it's like 1 PM for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717300
How could you say no to that face?

[Anonymous No.]

12k for fauna reading off lyrics

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717300
Kiara is debuffed hard by her time zone and she isn't willing to adjust her schedule to hit NA time like Bae and IRyS are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716234
Wut. Toko and Korone were a pair in their PL? That's interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717619
Ok I laughed, because that's basically what she does. It's still fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717300
I saw Fauna being shilled by nips over there, probably the reason why she's getting decent numbers right now. They say she's like Noel in that she's not that good of a singer, but they adore her still cause she always challenges herself with a variety of songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716604
Everyone do enjoy watching midget fights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717790
Yeah she's got that Noel spirit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717790
But Ina is one of the strongest ENs and her timezone is literally "kinda late EU". In fact Ina has a worse fucking timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717667
toko is not a gamer. she is one of those singers from animesongcollabo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19712628
>>19716479
They are probably keeping the models and just moving to being indies based on the wording of the cyberlive tweet about it.
Same thing Hylo did, their 1year contract probably ran out and cyberlive seems to have quite the generous contract about the character/IP ownership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716763
EnnaMillie made it sound catchy tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718136
I don't know, I really hate their cutesy voice, Millie especially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19716604
Your tallies are fucking retarded anyway. Hololive wins everything when their top hitter are streaming and the competition isn't doing events. Tallys are a niji psyop to distract from how hard they're getting BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718134
Pretty stupid honestly.
It's the reason no one else gives ownership of the models to the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

if i'm watching ina on desktop while listening to fauna on my phone (same yt account) who gets my view?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718134
Not surprising they can afford to do that. Their IP is worth shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718396
both

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718396
The first one you started to watch (I assume btw, pulling from my ass)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718396
Both, anon. That's what I've been doing. I refuse to watch them on Holodex cause I wanna give them views™.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19714735
>Its most likely an april fools joke given the day its happening
https://twitter.com/cyberlivecorp/status/1500608187732402176/photo/1

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718396
I have my 5,000 smart fridges ready to go for tonight. My Nephilim wife WILL hit 20k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718541
do people unironically watch through holodex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718134
The talents keeping their models is CyberLive's shtick. They HEAVILY advertised that during their growing pains

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718551
Looking at the likes, I think nobody really cares. Good for them though. Hope their campaign works out for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718602
You'd be surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717979
I know, but it's still funny as fuck. Now I wish she'd be in hololive for real, although they'd ignore each other probably. Like Sora and Polka

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718396
Same account?
Whichever you opened more recently/interacted with recently.
Sorry, 1 account 1 view, this isn't Twitch. (since the Dec 2020 update)

[Anonymous No.]

>13k people watching
>11k likes
>40 minutes into stream
What do they call this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718834
normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718834
EN cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718834
12k likes now*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718834
sorry i forgot to like, its 12k likes now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718834
the frame was up pretty long today, she set it up like 5-6 hours in advance, idk if likes before the stream starts count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718602
Haven't visited Holodex in over a year.

I guess it's useful to see who's online.
Didn't know Gura was streaming to members again and would have never heard of the Twticast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718717
Ignore is such a strong word. Hololive values intra-gen relationship.
I think Toko going to Hololive would be a nice addition, but I'd rather have someone like Tamaki or Haneru - people who could organize collabs. Holos got many singers far superior than hers anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719033
yeah I only use it to see the schedule really, but to watch the stream through it? never

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717432
everything else still is pretty good if you aren't a numberrot of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718834
Realistically, it's well over 15k.
Both CCVID to some extent and the 2020 cull are still active for EN.
Churn is pretty high at 45min in though and ENs like to like a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718974
It’s usually so minuscule for EN members. Even Gura, the queen of likes, gets around 2k likes before stream starts and typically ends with 20k+
Fauna probably had like 1-1.5k

[Anonymous No.]

>her views go up when shes talking and not reading lyrics
>starts to stagnate if not slowly drop when she is

[Anonymous No.]

>open Fauna's stream
>she is singing
>she is singing terribly
>give a like for trying
>close the stream before my ears start bleeding

>hurr durr why does Fauna have 12K likes with 14K people watching

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719176
she had 3250~ish likes anon, you can check on holostats

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719240
First time seeing tabbing out live anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19717444
there's literally no one from niji jp streaming right now, schizo
>>19716234
Korone knew Sasaki, Shiina and Okayu as the four of them streamed on youtube before getting in nijisanji and hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719086
Toko has experience in singing though. Something someone like Suisei lacks
I don't know if what you said at the end is baiting or what, but you know that's not true

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719246
Go stream finana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719033
It's also good for seeing a translation log for a JP member with timestamps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719160
She'll always be compared to Korone and Suisei. That's just how it works. Even with her usual collab mates Ange and Lize, Toko is just far inferior to them. If she ain't pretty, I bet she'd be at Levi-tier now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719171
>Realistically, it's well over 15k.
Realistically every single stream that doesn't have high visual engagement (like zatsus or karaoke) is missing a good chunk of views, simply because Youtube will not count tabbed out viewers. We've seen this time and time agian with views spiking during "eventful" parts of a stream and then going down and then back up again. There's no one magically closing streams and knowing when to come back.
It sincerely baffles me how Youtube murdered their 2021 stats by holding themselves to standards the competition (Twitch) won't. To most people, Youtube CCV is totally the same as Twitch, and that's allowing Twitch to just keep dominating youtube in terms of streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people confused with Fauna numbers? Ina is streaming. They can leave a like then go to Ina's stream if they are bored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719361
Noone will watch her anyway, so she might as well tribal post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719240
That's fairly normal for karaoke streams. When she's talking she's interacting with chat so it's normal to want to see her visual reacting, but when she's singing it pretty much looks the same every time so you can move to a different tab and look at something while listening to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719490
Yes yes this always consistently happens in every single stream. I swear to fuck, you people better be fucking baiting, because at least "culture" posters are employing some kind of logic that can explain why all streams are like this, whereas you try to tie it into irrelevant contextual shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719329
It's still surprising how western fans and even many vtubers that started in 2020-1 still don't know how intertwined Hololive/stars and Nijisanji are as far as talents is concerned.
How many previous groups split between the 2, but still hang out in their private life or side gigs.

The lack of collabs in late 2020 after the China stuff really didn't help with that image, but people shouldn't assume they're at "all out war".
Hell, even Aqua and Kagura Mea still hang out normally irl, despite not being able to collab anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Man Gura sure is a huge fucking Aki shill.
Shills the games she's playing, her belly dancing, Shallys etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719657
Sora consistently get higher likes than her view peak. Are you saying she got EN culled as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719815
shallys is criminally underrated

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719772
JP vtubers are more professional in a sense that they know how to keep work and personal things separate.
EN vtubers are a bunch of attention whores and have leaky mouths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719456
Susan is ashamed that Vtubers are huge on youtube instead of her million dollar hires.
>>19719772
The EN Indie scene is fucking cancer. It's like Twitch where drama is king.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719815
Anon, she's excited for 3rd Fes, she's 'shilling' everyone, talked about Subaru, Shion, etc.
She even watched all the previous 3D lives back to back, ofc Aki's going to stand out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719877
Maybe. Your one example does not overrule the overwhelming evidence of this happening to all of EN (Niji included), ID and even fucking Kson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719877
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

yosho yosho gura idol song yosho yosho!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720072
wrongtabchama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719815
Aki is sex. Also she's legit a mom so she's more mature than people at her age and Gura resonates well with those kinds of people.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura wants to make an idol song
It's over, this will destroy her big numbers on songs record. We could at least write off Target for Love as a shill song but this will ruin it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719998
With how much she’s been talking about it, I’m honestly getting more and more excited to see their 3D. She genuinely acts like a kid jumping off her seat mentioning it. I really wonder wtf they’re doing to have them appear

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719877
Sora is an exception. She's one of the OGs and just likable in general. Even fans of other vtuber groups go to her channel to profess their admiration to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719877
Sora, Mel and Choco have way higher kaigai audiences than people admit to.
Anyway, due to their stream time they get both:
1. EoPs are culled
2. people check in to leave a like then go watch Miko's stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720065
don't mind them, anon
they are just coping holoEN fags
let them be

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720252
Even Ina in her members stream was talking about how excited she was for 3rd fes. Talked about singing and dancing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719772
The war exists only on the EN side. JP-side there are many talents that hang out with each other off-line and it's known.

[Anonymous No.]

>top holoEN becomes a hardcore idolfag
>borderline lesbo also
not looking good for starsEN...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720218
Considering how Gura is pretty bad at keeping up with her promises, I wouldn't expect an idol song for another year or two

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720436
and seemingly its only in niji's mind. all but mori and kiara ignore niji and those 2 seemingly like them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720252
>>19720404
I think it's far more enjoyable if the talents themselves do the performance and not delegate it to stand-ins. I think that's what makes Hololive and Kamitsubaki stand-outs from the other groups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720597
Reminds me of the IRyS situation where all she does is provide the vocals and Cover does everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720436
>The war exists only on the EN side
Mostly happens on two view communities with Nijisanji being the exception. I think it takes time to throw away that kind of mentality even if the person becomes a corpo vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719815
>>19719998
Would be nice if she could shill IRyS' birthday and new cover song but we know she won't do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720597
Yeah, Kiara talked plenty today about doing 3D stuff and was talking about wanting to teach Ame how to dance, and just mentioned how in general dancing is something she’s proud of knowing. You can tell they as much as anyone also want to show that to people. I mean fuck, walfie calli is more animated than most people are with her reactions. It’s hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

Did you numberfags at least enjoy Hayase's live? or do ypu only care about big numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720373
I want to hear your logic on the delayed waiting rooms for EN vs JP vs ID then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720868
I was busy preventing myself from superchatting not-Rushia

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720529
yeah, when someone brought it up on Ames return APEX stream she kinda tried to shrug it off as if she didnt know until her chat exploded in waves of it and she had a very lukewarm reception to it by the sounds of answer, trying to find the timestamp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720776
I think it's really good for a vtuber to do shit like these as it keeps them more balanced. A purely streaming work-life sounds really monotonous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720776
Mori in 3D is pretty funny with her movements even though I normally don't like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720868
the model scuff was enjoyable
also watching miichan at the time. the fact that she got mogged by a ghost was funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720957
So you missed Marine's small cameo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720868
I don't watch her so I only care about her numbers. Sorry to disappoint you, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721049
I'll wait for the clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19718396
In terms of CCV, supposedly just 1, although we don't know which video, and whether there's some sort of delay that temporarily allows more than 1 CCV.

In terms of views, it should always count.

>>19718602
I often use holodex to watch JP streams due to the built-in live TL that doesn't require opening live chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720868
They sang SKILL, so yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720965
Most likely done by tourists. Better to ignore them if they can't be bothered to look at the chat rules or learn vtuber culture.

>>19720529
I don't understand why it's bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721377
no collab unless forced by management (they can't)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720965
Ame kept getting superchats about it and gave pretty corporate answers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721004
People underestimate having a healthy working environment. Pomu's meltdown is a classic case of what happens when a person is not having fun and is discontented with their life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720868
Just like with Miko's live the day before, when the live started weirdly this place turned into a general for a bit, reporting on stuff in the stream and almost nothing else. Quite a few people watched it.

It was good. Some scuff, but her model's nice, great tracking made the band and dance portions really pop and she's a powerful singer.

Wish her boobs jiggled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721467
Aren't they separate groups?
What's the rrat about forced collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of B-day stream is IRyS doing? Totsu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721713
I agree with you, but if they are gonna launch StarsEN and then isolate the fuck of them, then whats the fucking point?

[Anonymous No.]

Good numbers all around for the recent slots.
> W-Was the ElderSchizo right the whole time?
I refuse to admit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721713
There's this logic behind starsEN that they HAVE to leech, they HAVE to collab with HoloEN or they're DOA.
or something. I hate homobeggars so much. Let the ones who are interested in collabing, collab, and those that aren't interested (for whichever reason), not collab. I don't get why it's so hard and people have to try and beg for collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19719171
>Realistically, it's well over 15k.
Yes the EN cull is real, but let's not just make up numbers.

>>19718834
>likes
There's good evidence that the EN cull exists, but like ratio is not one of them. It's even worse than views ratio, since you don't have to even watch a stream to leave a like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721641
>this place turned into a general for a bit
That's par for the course for this thread, along with being numbers and /news/ for some reason it's also "3D tech"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720769
She did that yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721820
Elder schizo was right. It was a buff. Just that he was supporting the wrong branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721845
It's mainly because Homostars is such a failure that it's natural to expect StarsEN to be a failure too unless they leech off of the actual successful groups. Like a reverse NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721868
Anon her peak is 14k. Hard to say that 15k is a stretch if there is any tiniest measurable cull happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721820
He was right but in the wrong way. The Elder Ring schizo is a Nipplenigger but the game was actually a pretty big debuff for Luca. On the other hand its been a pretty huge buff to any HoloEN that has played it.

For HoloJP it seems neutral. Certainly not a debuff but Vampire Survivors was a bigger buff game for JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721784
because management doesn't force collabs and collabs for starsJP clearly haven't helped. the time they managed to get consistent good numbers was through their own merit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721784
Idk, myth was pretty isolate for a whole year though, don't see much problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721713
Hololive and Holostars are different groups under the Hololive Productions umbrella.
Hololivers have been adamant in the past that management cannot force them to do anything with one exception, Holofes participation (Okayu was seriously considering quitting due to the forced participation around the time of the first one).
Realistically, only Bae/Mori and maybe Mumei will collab with them. Ame and Gura have been ramping up the "gfe" in their members only somewhat recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19720868
Yes. I jerked off a lot to her, Mikoto and Shiina

[Anonymous No.]

>>19700906
Gamers' horror collab at 21:00pm JST. On Fubuki and Korone's channel might beat that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721713
The rrat is not that there'll be "forced collabs" but that they'll be "HoloEN gen 3" instead of "Holostars EN", with all the implications that carries.

It's a wishful thinking of people that think that doing away with "all female vtuber group" and "all male vtuber group" will purge the fanbase of the 100 "unicorns and idolfags" and allow for the boys on Hololive to become 7k, 10k streamers overnight.

What they fail to understand is that a HUGE segment of the hololive fanbase just want to see their oshi on a "cute girl doing cute thing" situation, having nothing against boys but not caring whether they succeed or fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721917
I've seen it ignore plenty of other Niji 3D lives because of the Holo stream happening, or some tribal drama, but today was pretty chill and focused on Hayase, up till Mineneko started.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYjcCcru6g
>300k in 3 days
For all of Lain's well-known struggles both of her solo covers have done surprisingly well

[Anonymous No.]

>>19722102
Link on the okayu's part?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19722090
not was, still is. They barely do outside collabs and they never are in those big collabs with other vtubers in the en scene like the ones nijien/vshojo/indies do together. this doesn't affect their numbers but it does show to fans that holoen is very isolationist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721784
Some people will collab with them some won't, just like Holostars. It's not going to be integrated like Nijisanji. They won't be part of EN events. That's part of the Hololive brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721845
Logically, the audience for StarsEN would be different than the existing audience for HoloEN, so I don't see how collabs between the two would help StarsEN out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19721784
I don't think isolate is the right word. Cover always give importance to individuality because every talent of theirs is seen as a viable brand hence why ex-Holos are always successful.
Aloe, Coco, Rushia are huge even when they left Hololive because of this.

>>19721845
>There's this logic behind starsEN that they HAVE to leech
That would be a horrid strategy. You look at Nijisanji, how many of them can you name? Getting big at all cost shouldn't be the priority. They have to establish themselves first if they truly wanna incline or risk becoming accessories to your more popular coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19722043
The 'failure' of stars is multi-pronged and isn't so simple to break down as 'they didn't mass collab with Hololive, therefore failure.
The unfortunate truth is that some of the stars are not the greatest or entertaining of streamers. Part of it is also very poor marketing/targeting too, and perception also matters a lot.

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>>19722160
That's just people trolling to get people mad.

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>>19722176
>I've seen it ignore plenty of other Niji 3D lives
Nah, there is a difference between a 3D debut and a run of the mill 3D live for an anniversary, birthday or regular event for the minor Nijis.

This thread, to be best of my recollection, always paid attention to Niji 3D debuts. Bdays and anniversaries, not so much but not even niji fans do, with some failing to break 25k, which for this thread is a regular uneventful stream

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>>19722262
>They have to establish themselves first if they truly wanna incline or risk becoming accessories to your more popular coworkers.
there's a reason why collab ban exists for hololive

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>>19720926
they just give up on waiting for the lazy whores

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>>19722160
theyve been running auds since late december(i think), sounds like they *might* have been recruiting both genders but probably didnt get a good male pool so they tweeted that audition aimed for males with the March announcement. If the voices in my head are right, the girls for EN3 should be scouted already but stars is now behind because they didnt explicitly advertise for stars.

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Holostars EN (and the japanese branch, for that matter) have two ways to go moving forward:

>Go the Vox route and pander to yumejos and fujos and secure yourself a primarily asian female fanbase, do decent or even good numbers(CCV, SC, memberships, even merch since Cover is more compotent compared to Anycolor there) and make good money. You don't need the girls to do that.

>Go the regular seiso/idol/gamer route and fail since even if you go that route and try to be careful with collabs with the girls you will still get ZERO collabs because the girls are worried about potentially losing their paypigs and since this route requires the BOX you'll fail miserably and become a failure, just like Holostars already are.

I don't see another path for Holostars EN to succeed.
Hopefully, for their sake, they go the Vox route, since it would be kinda sad to watch the men in Nijisanji EN thrive while Holostars EN stream in front of 300 people while being part of the biggest vtuber company in the world.

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>>19722262
>That would be a horrid strategy. You look at Nijisanji, how many of them can you name? Getting big at all cost shouldn't be the priority. They have to establish themselves first if they truly wanna incline or risk becoming accessories to your more popular coworkers.
I can name a lot, but thats because I also watch nijisanji.

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So Gura said she wants to do her idol reps with Kiara and she also ignored a Stars SC.

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AEW inclining

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>>19722246
>they never are in those big collabs with other vtubers in the en scene
I'm glad they don't, those are cringe as fuck. Do you get a kick of 15 strangers being awkward to each other playing Amogus or Gartic Phone?

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>>19722102
>Okayu was seriously considering quitting due to the forced participation around the time of the first one
>>19722240
>Link on the okayu's part?
It's not that Okayu was considering quitting because of the forced participation for Holofes, it is that she was TERRIBLY insecure about whether or not she could sing and dance (being from the gamers branch, back then a segmented branch which focused on games, while the rest of the company focused on variety) and thought about falling on her sword.

THANK GOD SHE DIDN'T! I love that fucking catgirl and FLOS is the greatest of all Holo covers and that anon dissing it can burn in hell!

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>>19722373
Right, trolling then, gonna continue ignoring your bullshit then instead of trying to engage in good faith.

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>>19722458
Ofc not, im just explaining how holoen is seen out there be it by fans or by other vtubers.

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>>19722286
I've always thought this, but I'm not Japanese so I can't categorically say you're boring. But they at least seem to be kind of boring. I figure if they were any good at least some Japanese would watch them, Holo collabs and promotion notwithstanding. Almost everyone who watches Hololive or Nijisanji also knows Holostars exist yet almost no one watches them.

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>>19722431
i can name most of the girls with good coom bait art

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>>19722355
Exactly. The model that Hololive follows is completely different to Nijisanji.
Nijisanji fans just want to watch their company grow, their biggest talents become more increasingly popular.
Hololive puts importance on the journey aspect. People gets to see and enjoy the rise and fall of their members.

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>>19722229
The like rate being 10% is extremely high for a JP chuuba, even for a new song.
Indicates one, if not, all of:
a high EOP presence - Edengumi had many stealth kaigai viewers + she collabs with NijiEN and Chigusa
some views still not being counted
a high rate of individual viewers - who can re-watch it plenty in time

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>>19722458
Reminds me how Selen is known as that one vtuber who sucks at Apex in the normie circle now.

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>>19722246
>it does show to fans that holoen is very isolationist.
>>19722523
>Ofc not, im just explaining how holoen is seen out there be it by fans or by other vtubers.
Tamaki put it better when explaining why the number of her collabs with Holos was severely reduced
> Holos aren't having enough time to do their own streams, let alone collab with Holos.
> There is no way she would push for collabs
That goes triple for HoloEN

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Next Thread >>19722553

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>>19722390
I doubt any credible males applied, most assuming that auditions for both genders was just bullshit like the other gens. Only dummies like Shu would think otherwise. They had to make a "no guys we're actually serious" announcement to get real applications.

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FAUNA GOLD
>FAUNA GOLD
FAUNA GOLD
>FAUNA GOLD

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>>19722397
Better sad than trash. Being like Vox would taint the whole brand.

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>>19722752
IRyS has a birthday stream, anon...

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>>19722693
I think that's just sour graping, anon.

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>>19722693
>I doubt any credible males applied,
WTF is a "credible male"

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>>19722693
Recruiting for StarsEN must be a lot harder than HoloEN.

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>>19722861
Someone who actually wants to stream as a V-Tuber and isn't just applying for shits and giggles

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>>19722397
>Go the regular seiso/idol/gamer route and fail
I don't understand why you're doom posting about this. We have seen time and time again how Cover innovated the world of vtubers.

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>>19722656
I guess that's nominally better than not being known at all. There's a lot of vtubers and streamers in general worse than Selen, and not that many females that are actually even decent at fps.

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>>19722531
There are reasons that Astel and Roberu do the best out of the stars, and that's because they're the most entertaining/have done their network reps. From there it gets a bit trickier, but the bottom stars are at the bottom for good reason.

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>>19722873
holo won't get someone like mr coom huh, what a shame

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>>19722914
I'll genuinely show disbelief that the same rrat that "nobody will apply for JP6" is being repeated for StarsEN.

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>>19722873
This is where Hololive can flex their purse. They actually pay their talents a salary so if they want to get good talent to go to Holostars instead of Niji, just open up the purse and offer them a lucrative signing bonus.

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>>19722873
I wonder if they have some hidden rule in the auditions like ''If the guy talks too much about one of the girls disqualify him''

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>>19722656
Selen is fucking stupid. She should've joined Vshojo instead. Her skills is tailored for Twitch.

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>>19722397
The heck? There are successful male EN vtubers that don't pander.

I can see a couple ways a EN holostars can be successful:
1) existing streamer with a preexisting fanbase
2) being really great at their specialty, typically gaming
3) some holo EN girls not being averse to collabs with males

That's just off the top of my head

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>>19722861
Someone with content creation experience not just "I like videos games and I want to be a vtuber". I.e. not vt posters.

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>>19722397
the thing is stars en might be like stars jp where they are more likely to do collabs outside of hololive so if they do go regular bro/gamer streamer wouldn't say its a lost cause

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>>19723000
It's normal for people to feel threatened so they make rrats like those.

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>>19723006
I wouldn't doubt it. They probably don't want someone who is only joining to get close to the girls. They have been pretty clear that they want people who care about the Stars brand, at least on the JP side.

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>>19723027
>The heck? There are successful male EN vtubers that don't pander.
name one
and no 1k shitter need no apply

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>>19723063
That's a possibility. That's entirely up to the talents themselves tho.

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>>19723006
Probably depends on the tone. Someone talking about how they got into Hololive because they loved Korones playthroughs would be fine. Talking about how cute Gura is while slurping back your drool wouldn't be.

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>>19723144
true. as seen with mori and kiara, management isn't against it

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>>19722397
What about a boyband?

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>>19723120
Bahroo

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>>19722672
Why do you niggers keep making threads so early? We're not dying any time soon

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>>19723026
Anon, even fucking Shu admitted to having applied for what he believed to be StarsEN (but that was, of course, just regular HoloEN).
Anyone not applying for it is a complete retard and I don't mean in the metaphorical way, I mean in the
> poops and spread in own face
literal way.

Nijis will open what, some 15 more openings for the next 3 male waves they'll release until the end of the year?
How many applicants for all openings in the mainstream EN market? Some 100? 200? 1000?

Only a ABSOLUTE RETARD wouldn't apply for both knowing that at very minimum they are in a 10 candidates per opening position.

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>>19723012
Selen was a two view, she couldn't "just join Vshoujo". Pomu should've joined Hololive but when she tried they told her to go kick rocks. That's just how things are.

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>>19723189
The only one I can see being affected by male collabs is Gura. I don't think her fanbase would take well to it. Maaaaybe Ame and IRyS with how infatuated those two fanbases are but to a much lesser extent. Everybody else will not be affected and the fans would probably welcome it.

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>>19723256
Indeed.
Even going from 10-20 viewers as an indie to baseline minimum 1-2k (which is what I'm expecting for a StarsEN) is life-changing.

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>>19723218
That isn't even a vtuber.

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>>19723120
pewdiepie, bubi

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>>19723169
Imagine the shitshow if it was shown that a male member was trying to hit on an unwilling Gura behind the scenes.
>>19723299
The thing is, it looks like quite a few Holos joined just for the CGDCT aspect so they don't seem particularly interested in male collabs.

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>>19723027
They need a coco in starjp, get sora the troll in yagoo.

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>>19723289
Pomu had like nil experience at the time im pretty sure.

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>>19723299
>I don't think her fanbase would take well to it
Gura clearly doesn't like collabs and he audience doesn't either. It wouldn't be because it's boys, but because she's spending time trying to entertain the guest / host instead of spending the same time entertaining the audience.

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>>19723289
>omu should've joined Hololive but when she tried they told her to go kick rocks
was it because of her boobs?

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>>19723218
Bahroo cultivated a fanbase for years and only became a vtuber later, that's like saying Jerma is a successful vtuber if he gets a model today

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>>19723241
we're not too far off
>>19723299
nah, the only ones i can see being close to no upset is mori and bea. the others would be varying amounts of upset and yeah i'd agree gura would probably be at the top

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>>19723289
Pomu had zero experience when she applied, became an indie and then got into Niji.

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>>19723299
If my memory serves right Ame wanted to collab in Apex with Astel?

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>>19723363
???

Are you just gatekeeping like a retard?

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>>19723439
Hololive place character as more important than talent.

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>>19723299
I don't see male collabs meshing well with Fauna's image either.

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>>19723448
Yes... that's one way to get a successful male vtuber. Are we assuming that holostars EN must be sourced from 2views?

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>>19723477
That was before people tried to ship them and since then she's kept a distance from Stars other than voicing support for their 3D streams on twitter.

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>>19723477
Nah, that's just tourist being dumb.
They're also why the collab went from 1% to 0%

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>>19723477
If she wanted to she would have by now. Astel can do very rudimentary English communication, better than Roboco or Aqua or Towa or others Ame has played the game with.

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RPR AS STARS EN LETS GO

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>>19723448
Is male png streamers having less debuff than male vtubers?

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>>19723477
Nah she drew the line since the start that she won't despite how hard homobeggers tried. As much as she is a fujo, she understands that the essence of cgdct and gfe of hololive.

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Whatever happened to the J1 collab? They already had promotional stuff made. Did they really lose it permanently because some dumb fuck left pirated nipple torture porn in his favorites on stream? Or was it just rescheduled?

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>>19723752
Delayed until they get a replacement for Lauren most likely.

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>>19723560
Yes. Or a 3-view at most. No reason for a successful streamer to hand Cover half his revenue. The best bet to get a "name" is someone who is popular but doesn't currently stream, thats where Cover also tends to like to hire.

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>>19723752
Nipplegate, please understand.

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>>19723679
He's part of a pro-team, there is 0% chance on that happening.

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>>19723679
ID Stars