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>> No.18421311

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.18421601

>>18421459
So you're saying that Cover actually has a good working relationship with TPC and Nintendo so they're likely to be even more lenient?
Got it.

>> No.18421619

>>18415740
>You can't be allowed to celebrate your favorite streamers get good numbers
This is why no one likes Holofags and even more reason why you retards should be banned from this board

>> No.18421669

>>18421321
TPC won’t take it down because Markiplier is one of the most known names in Western internet history and it’ll cause more of a headache than anything.
TPC would absolutely be willing to take down a Japnese company’s usage of their product because the expectation people already have is not to do any stunts with Nintendo after their history.
I mean for fucks sake, Holo only get temporary permissions for Pokemon games and it doesn’t even come from Nintendo but rather NND

>> No.18421720

>>18421321
Didn't someone post in the number threads about one youtube content creator being striked by a pokemon related company just recently?

>> No.18421729

>>18421601
>yeah can we get permissions to this stream to show pokemon art and talk about which one we want to fuck and which one we dont.
good luck with them saying yes.

>> No.18421798

>>18421619
This board will die without us Nijicuck.

>> No.18421807

I don't feel so good holobros...

>> No.18421841

Is it too for HoloEN to move to Twitch? Western communities seems to treat youtube streamers as second class citizens. Literally every top dog is on Twitch.

>> No.18421875

>>18421798
I think everyone would appreciate a slower board while everyone else doesn't have to weather Holo drama thread spam.

>> No.18421899

>>18421669
>TPC would absolutely be willing to take down a Japnese company’s usage of their product because the expectation people already have is not to do any stunts with Nintendo after their history.
Uh huh. I'm sure Jun asks for Pokemon perms too when he does his Pokemon streams.
Funny how long he managed to get perms for Pokemon Platinum when he did his challenge that got a 400k CCV peak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfSSZ_Utc0

>> No.18421910

>>18421619
Fucking tourist, anons here yesterday were cheering for ririmu. There were minimal shitposting and kneeling when toya got his gold.

>> No.18421912

It's going to be so fucking sad if Ame can't have a higher peak with her unarchived karaoke than Mori's "Just Mori" stream that aired while a large part of North America was still asleep. Fuck, imagine if Mumei had this primetime for her karaoke. Ame is just fucking wasting it.

>> No.18421915

>>18421841
> Western communities
the biggest meme ever

>> No.18421943

>>18421841
Youtube just has a larger audience. I'd even say Niji EN could possibly be better off on YouTube since they were able to establish themselves.

>> No.18421952

>>18421841
>communities

>> No.18421990

>>18421899
Jun is a company?
>>18421912
ame is overlapping kroni 7-9k max

>> No.18421989

>>18421729
>thinking TPC will give a fuck about what an EN branch of streamers does
You give HoloEN way too much credit.

>> No.18422005

>>18421841
Why? Who would want to move and become a normal fish in a pond where streaming is an absolute necessity.
At least with youtube they can just make videos and try and play that algorithm game rather than try to compete with the people that are always live.

>> No.18422015

>>18421943
>NijiEN
>Establish themselves
Kek

>> No.18422017

>>18421899
Jun is a streamer, not a talent liscensed under a software company who’s had other big Japanese companies come down on them for streaming without permissions??

>> No.18422074

>>18421989
the point is they need to ask permission rather than risk it. They are still under a japanese company.

>> No.18422131
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18422131

Reminder that the guy who single handily shit up the last thread was the anti-Holo Vshocuck. Same posting style, same obsessive frequency.

>> No.18422133

>>18422017
Funny how the other bunch of streamers licensed under a company don't have permissions issues and can play Metal Gear Rising and will play Elden Ring later in the month

>> No.18422134

>>18421990
>Jun is a company?
Naw but why didn't they strike his stream down? He was literally streaming to over 100k people without permissions while saying very mean things about pokemon during his streams.
I thought you said Nintendo only goes after Japanese content creators.

>> No.18422136

>>18421899
He does get them most of the time though, you don't watch him do you?

>> No.18422245

>>18422134
>Naw but why didn't they strike his stream down?
becasue he isnt a company
>I thought you said Nintendo only goes after Japanese content creators
nigga dont put owrds in my mouth i said the TCP and japanese cpmanies.
the TCP have guidelines for individuals but cover isnt an individual.

>> No.18422255

>>18422136
He doesn't, but it's ok, none of us here watch him.

>> No.18422261

>>18422015
Yes.

>> No.18422262

>>18421990
Oh, Mori was only overlapping with Marine who had 30k viewers and Suisei who had 20k viewers.
There definitely needs to be more shittalking Ame who is absolutely floundering while taking up valuable timeslots.

>> No.18422352

>>18422261
How? They have only arguably established themselves in markets irrelevant to an EN branch. They aren't established in the west at all.

>> No.18422361

Anon doesn't know that the permission for individual and company are different.

>> No.18422375

>>18422262
7-9k with the cull means she's doing better than Lamy, why don't you start shitting on Lamy first for being a failure before criticizing Ame?

>> No.18422384

Kronii probably going to get her usual 10k. Ame can she get 10k??

>> No.18422397

>>18422262
> Mori was only overlapping with Marine who had 30k viewers and Suisei who had 20k viewers.
i dont think they sahre viewerbase.
Is like saying mysta was overlapping fuwa when it was until vox started that he dropped in numbers.

>> No.18422452

>>18422131
Imagine simping whores. Kek. And they say Fandeads are cucks. We have bigger cucks here promoting Vwhorejo.

>> No.18422504

>>18422262
Losing with karaoke vs House Flipper is kind of embarrassing, but then again, Ame can't sing for shit and people are still watching so that's a win I guess.

>> No.18422508

>>18421875
I mean.. If you want this board to become >>>/QA/ 2.0, then sure
which will never happen, cause janny is a holofag

>> No.18422513

>>18421619
HoloJP gets gold - Normal thread
NijiJP get gold - Normal thread
HoloEN get gold - Normal thread
NijiEN does anything remotely good - Thread goes to absolute shit

>> No.18422528

>>18422074
Damn, now Holos need permissions to even talk about topics?
Can't talk about pokemon after PLA permissions end...

Are they allowed to doodle pokemon or can I report Selen to TPC for drawing pokemon on stream without permission?

>> No.18422570

>>18422384
Mumei incoming in 8 minutes, i don't think so.

>> No.18422626

>>18422513
Proves how much Holofags seethe over Nijien

>> No.18422704

>>18421899
If you are gonna use facecam jp streamers, try using corpos one like dtn which is one of the older esports/streamer organizations. Fyi, dtn is pretty much as strict as cover on perms. I remembered mukkai's viewers requesting ring fit streams and his answer is pretty much no because he has to sign a contract with nintendo first. Niji also seems to toy around the grey line more regarding perms.

>> No.18422748

>>18422352
EN's market is English speakers.

>> No.18422773

>>18422626
Yes all the holo doomposting is certainly from holo fans

>> No.18422782

>>18422131
I think he is just a holo anti.
Not necesarily a VS watcher just uses them when it is fitting.

>>18422528
drawing or talking is different, smash or pass NEEDS the pics. And even then there are some limits. They doing a detailed artwork would need permissions as we saw with nier drawings from ina. gura has doodle some pokes for exmaple.
And i dont think selen draw the 900 pokemon that exist, correct me if im wrong.
Smash or pass would need the permissions from TCP to use their wartwork or they drawing doodles for the 900 pokemons.

>> No.18422788

>>18422361
Funny how Nijisanji and VShojo have no problem getting permissions for games their streamers want to play while still being a company.

>> No.18422812

>>18422452
Yeah, I had an inkling it was him when he was posting on cooldown trashing HoloEN. Then he started talking about Ironmouse having 60k subs in his NijiEN posts and I knew it was the same guy.

Vshocuck, you are a pathetic piece of shit and this entire board would be better off if you left and never came back. Nobody likes you.

>> No.18422868

>>18422773
Yes all the holo seething is certainly from holo fans

>> No.18422879

>>18422352
This is a complete rehash of Nijinigger arguments in mid-2020 lmao

>> No.18422920

>>18422508
I wouldn't care if this board would get /vr/ tier traffic, which it wouldn't, it would probably get reduced by 2/3.

>> No.18422956

>>18422788
> Nijisanji
maybe for konami and from, but there are things still they are unable to touch.
>and VShojo
they dont ask permissions but are as bound tot hat as other for some picky companies.

>> No.18422962

I'm just here waiting for merch anon to post his numbers while watching schizos flinging shit in this thread, good times.

>> No.18422972

>beaten by vshojo
T-twitch magic number!!
>beaten by NijiEN
... HoloEN culled harder guys

>> No.18422976

>>18422868
?

>> No.18422999

>>18422782
There's nothing stopping Holos from doing a stream like this, except for permissions autism I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeCK8I_GQ4U

>> No.18423035

>>18422513
Yep

When NijiEN does anything remotely good the Vshocuck shown here >>18422131 starts posting and shits up the thread. That is why the thread goes to shit every single time. Luxiem getting over 10k? Pomu's MGR stream? Tonight? Its all this stupid motherfucker every single time. Its this one guy that is turning numbers into shit. HoloEN must have kicked his dog or something. He is a pathetic piece of shit.

>> No.18423041

>>18422788
It's just Konami and Fromsoft.

>> No.18423068

>>18422972
>Small corpos rising in viewership and subs
>W-who?

>> No.18423127

>>18422962
>waiting for merch anon to post his numbers
Anon....

>> No.18423178

>>18422956
>>18423041
>Konami and From lets literally everyone stream their games
>except hololive
maybe Cover should figure out what they're doing wrong but given their incompetence you might have to wait a few years

>> No.18423200

>>18422972
NijiEN females culled
NijiEN males not culled

Twitch numbers inflated
Youtube numbers deflated

>> No.18423280

>>18422972
Truly embarrassing. As expected from a company pandering to cucked idolfags

>> No.18423318

>>18423127
Yes, I'm aware they changed the stock so the 10k method won't work anymore. I'm pretty sure the merch anon is using some other method though to dig up the numbers.

>> No.18423342

>>18422999
im not sure what your point is, you see there she DRAWS all of those and the original argument was why they dont do a smash or pass stream which would need permissions to do.
if you are asking about react content or original ideas. Irys care date, bae reviews, mori podcast,just mori, ame vr projects, mumei drawings,council rule 63, etc. Both companies girls have their own ideas with different results.

>> No.18423379

>>18422972
Explain the views, then, shitposting faggot.

>> No.18423389

>>18423041
Fromsoft has 3 good (albeit same-ish) game, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro.

Konami has Castlevania, Metal Gear, and Silent Hill? Anything else? Other than the one off buff of MGR those aren't exactly amazing streaming content.

>> No.18423397

>>18423318
Yes, and no, we're not going to ask for the specific methodology so that some Cover intern can fix it.

>> No.18423415

>>18423280
>Vshoujo
>Nijisanji
>not cuck companies
Seethe more

>> No.18423440

>>18421279
Ruru-chan chuuba when?

>> No.18423477

>>18423178
They're just overly cautious on explicit permissions due to the thing with Mio and having to take down a bunch of videos. Niji is ok with halfass permissions and twitch streamers just don't care.

>> No.18423481

>>18422788
Yes,Cover too chicken to play games.

>> No.18423541

>>18423389
> Anything else?
yu gi oh
tough that is only good for one stream unless you know the meta and are decent at it.

>> No.18423554

>>18423477
>Expecting shitposters to take your informed post seriously
Give it up anon. We have dramafags in here too on top of our usual shitposters, just come back in 12 hours when the thread will be less shit.

>> No.18423557

>>18423397
Easy there, I'm not asking how they're doing it. In fact I'm glad they aren't sharing their method so it won't get fixed. I just want the numbers.

>> No.18423585

>>18423477
Nijis can have their chuuba's channel get demolished. They have hundreds to replace their 2views.

>> No.18423621

>elira at 2k
nice "incline"

>> No.18423658

>>18423415
Can't be cucks if they never pretended to be yours to begin with. Can't say the same about Holokeks tho after Rushia and Mori

>> No.18423705

>>18423541
I feel like that would be numbers poison. Yeah it bumps Niji EN a bit when they do it but I think the pool of yugioh autists is very shallow.

JP Holos would probably clean up with it tho.

>> No.18423739

I am pretty sure there were indies and content creators asking konami and from perms through their customer support and got a no as response.

>> No.18423780

>>18423585
It's not about the channel it's about the company. Enough strikes and all the companies channels get shut down by youtube.

>> No.18423783

>>18423621
slow and steady

>> No.18423853

>>18423658
Cope

>> No.18423894

>>18423739
Surprised they even got a response other than "Sir this is a pinball company."

>> No.18423897
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>>18423389
Lol, you know nothing about Konami. The entire Beatmania series (ever heard of Dance Dance Revolution), Goemon, Contra, Gradius, Sparkster, what ever movie licensed games they have, Suikoden, and others I might not know of. Konami has one of the greatest classic video game line ups.

>> No.18423924

>>18423477
Twitch streamers don’t care for good reason though. The West already went through that phase of people trying to DMCA games being streamed and shit and was met with a near universal backlash of huge proportions that companies haven’t dared to ever enter that zone again. Most companies would rather just give everyone the ability to do what they please except for like, Atlus and that’s it

>> No.18423976

>>18423705
Is good for one or 2 streams BUT once you rise on the ladder then you are facing 40min duels so you better be good at zatsu becasue the "is it my turn already" joke can only get you so far.

>> No.18424030

>>18423658
>I'm not cucked. It's an open relationship
>Imagine being more pathetic than cucks
Kek.

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18424032

>>18423541
>>18423705
>only good for one stream
lol no

>> No.18424112

>>18424032
we talking about the west
rosemi and elira played it arleady

>> No.18424198

>>18423897
Anyone in Niji EN played any of that shit? Any of it good streaming content? Only DDR I know is those machines they have in arcades you jump around on. Have no idea how you'd play that as a streamer or how it would make for compelling content.

>> No.18424202

22k watching holo en right now.

>> No.18424208

>>18423178
Neither of those give permissions, Niji and VS are relying on them not caring enough to strike them because its a grey area.

>> No.18424229

23k watchign holoEN
weird seeng that increas on ame numbers even after mumei starting.
Probably people getting home already.

>> No.18424234

>hololive/en gold
>slow thread, last for 6-8 hrs
>normal # discussion

>nijisanji/en gold
>fast thread, 2-3 post/min
>falseflaggers & baits everywhere
>muh hololive is evil

>> No.18424265

>>18423897
Still wondering why people chooses to stream Metal slug over Contra. I Mean not because it's bad or anything, i just wondering why. Chibi aestethic? Memes?

>> No.18424277

Numbers for Holo right now vs. NijiEN's peak earlier

>HoloEN (3 members)
22,946
>NijiEN (15 members)
22,662

Really puts it into perspective. The NijiEN collab did well for them but lets be real. They aren't even in the same ball park as HoloEN.

>> No.18424281

>>18424032
Japs...

>> No.18424310

>>18424202
Only 3 member not all mem collab.

>> No.18424319

>>18424265
easier, visually better and the music of the first 3 kicks ass.

>> No.18424351

>>18424112
The boom is over and there are at least 9k people watching it on Twitch across yugitubers, previous people that played Duel Links, and randoms. That's without any unifying corpo power, just a bunch of indies.

>> No.18424350

>>18422375
Gen 5 schizo back at it again

>> No.18424395

>>18424350
I felt sorry for him since gen 5 incline a lot lately.

>> No.18424414

>>18424265
Metal Slug is better than Contra

>> No.18424455

>>18424277
You forgot 1 pov at that.

>> No.18424456
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18424456

>>18423041
Fromsoft dont give permission.

>> No.18424485

Have faggots not seen the Konami permissions list? I can't post it since I'm out of my house but it straight up says they ignore requests for games that aren't on the list. From what I remember the list is like 15 games total and random as fuck.

>> No.18424520

>>18424456
yeah but have actively taken away them.
HoloEn got DS3 perms at the beggining and fom took them away. That is the weird part.

>> No.18424543

>>18424198
Not yet, because they only started getting Konami permissions this month.

>> No.18424575

>>18424277
Not yet, but the numbers don't lie, previously 10 people could only pull 9k+ max. With the addition of luxiem and another market tapped, they've manage to bridge the gap somewhat. Yes I'm aware there's still a gulf, but it's closer now than it was before.
The question is of course, what does NijiEN do from here for the next few waves? Will they continue to try for the NA market, or focus more on other regions?

>> No.18424584

>>18424485
is pretty much whatever they have released in the last 2-3 years which is not a lot. But yeah no classics allowed or the collections of castlevania.

>> No.18424587
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>>18424198
Don't people like it when Gura plays rhythm games because she excels at them? It isn't like they will be trapped to a single genre. Not only that there are dance pads, I know because I've used them on both the PS1 and 2.

Mystical Ninja Goemon is a cult classic, that is actually how EvaXephon really got kick started. Yes, people do enjoy older games, otherwise Korone wouldn't have the viewership she has.

>> No.18424588

>>18424520
thats bandais prob(WW publisher) not fromsoft

>> No.18424661

>>18424588
bandai gave them to them so something changed to take them away and that is probably only from.

>> No.18424665

One vspo did a yugioh stream and unlisted it immediately. She didn't tweet the stream too. It pretty much tells you konami doesn't give perms. Fyi, vspo pokemon perms are the same as cover , it's from niconico too.

>> No.18424667

>>18424265
You can credit feed any of the Metal Slug ports, and it was a well known arcade staple.

>> No.18424786

>>18424665
niji has blanket konami perms thanks to niji koshien

>> No.18424787

>>18424587
Maybe Nina would play some. Most of them are zoomers and millennials who thinks retro games are from 2012.

>> No.18424796

>>18424575
I'm not sure. We have seen from the way Luxiem performs that while their mainly Chinese fanbase is very passionate. They aren't that big. 20kish seems to be the ceiling and you can already see that overlap absolutely kills their viewership much more than even HoloEN overlap hell.

I don't know if doubling down on that market is necessarily a good idea since it doesn't seem to be that big.

>> No.18424859

>>18424787
Nina just plays whatever is trending on twitch indies.
Project zomboid is a boring shit ass streaming game same for vmapire hunters.

>> No.18424916

>>18424796
>e it doesn't seem to be that big.
only one way to find out ANOTHER WAVE

>> No.18424931

>>18424587
>Yes, people do enjoy older games
EN viewers hate old games, look at Irys's Megaman numbers and Ame's DK numbers and those are franchises people actually know. Kronii getting 11k with Sonic Adventure was a huge surprise.

>otherwise Korone wouldn't have the viewership she has.
Korone is literally the only Holo that gets "decent" numbers playing boomer games and even those numbers aren't that good compared to her median.

>> No.18424948

>>18424787
Selen has dipped into classic Megaman. While Pomu is from that generation (has mentioned playing Ecco), she simply doesn't have the skill required for classic games. Elira could possibly be a good choice due to her stamina, but she tends to play more story heavy games. The men's taste is still up in the air for me.

>> No.18424953

>>18424575
If they're willing to throw like 19 people apiece at the Korean and Indonesian markets what makes you think they'll look at people getting 1-3k views and call that oversaturated?

>> No.18424975

>>18424575
Cover going to drop holoen 3 when that happens. Better go for the fujo asian market.

>> No.18424988

>>18424265
Metal Slug >>>>>>>>> Kontra

>> No.18425019

Update on peaks

>HoloEN (3 members)
24,373
>NijiEN (15 members)
22,662

>> No.18425050

>>18424931
Not to mention Super Metroid still being Gura's lowest VODs to this day, despite being on the top 5 SNEs games and one of the more stream friendly.

>> No.18425059

>>18423477
Less overly cautions and more full paranoia. Its fucking obvious those companies don't care if you stream their games.

>> No.18425085

>>18424931
>was a huge surprise
sonic 3d games are a meme

>>18424948
ike lieks sotry games
Shu likes paltforms
Mysta likes multiplayer games
Vox and luca likes action games and "horror" but the former kills their views.

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>>18424277
And after this post, normal discussions; peace and quiet... it's never not funny.

>> No.18425099

>>18424931
Sonic Adventure did well because Sonic has become a meme.

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>>18425019
>NijiEN (15 members)
22,662
>What a failure, graduate them!

>> No.18425115

>>18424948
Lets be honest, it kind of doesn't matter what the guys play, no one watches them for games.

>> No.18425128

>>18424787
Ugh you're making me shiver anon. Kids these days have such a fucked up understanding of time and history that anything that was even a few months back is old. Pisses me off so bad.

>> No.18425130

>>18425019
Thanks, now the schizos can shit other place now.

>> No.18425211

I wish these schizos were here during Holocaust.

>> No.18425222

Any news on nijiEN new wave? It's about time

>> No.18425229

>>18425130
Awfully normal now thk god.

>> No.18425237

>>18425059
Yeah it's obvious they don't care, until they do, then you're fucked and end up deleting 40% of your content in a blind panic. Not worth it to play a handful of so-so titles when there's thousands of games out there to play.

>> No.18425285

>>18424931
Luna usually does pretty well with old games from what I remember

>> No.18425302

>>18425019
>ratio

>> No.18425313

>>18425222
Spring most likely

>> No.18425315

>>18425059
Until you start raking in fat cash from those streams, then they will start to care. By that time they got all the right to strike your channel and there's nothing you could do to overturn it. The risk is just too big, not worth it.

>> No.18425332

>>18425059
It's justified. The entirety of Hololive nearly got fucking killed over permissions and getting taken to court by Capcom. They will NEVER be lenient on this point and will always insist on explicit written perms.

>> No.18425343

NijiEN Top 10 peak views (nijimado+vrabi)
22/02/15 22,662 Nijisanji Game show <---NEW
22/01/21 22,308 Ike Karaoke stream
22/02/10 21,417 Vox RFA 300k
21/12/20 20,703 Vox Nijisanji debut
21/12/20 19,672 Mysta Nijisanji debut
21/12/20 19,417 Nijisanji Luxiem debut program
21/12/20 17,555 Ike Nijisanji debut
22/01/30 16,717 Finana Costume reveal
21/12/20 16,381 Shu Nijisanji debut
22/02/10 16,843 Mysta FNAF 1 stream

>> No.18425345

>>18425302
That isn't ratio you fucking idiot, lol. That is raw viewership.

>> No.18425351

>>18425285
depends on the game
if its popular classics like megaman and SF sure.

>> No.18425400

>>18425345
why then emphasize that holoen did it with less members

>> No.18425409

>>18425050
Super Metroid is a big filter to the zoomers but the fans SC out the ass. One guy alone gave Gura $500 asking her to play and then donated more akasupas when she played it.

>> No.18425414

>>18425285
Next Romancing SaGa 3 stream from Sora might ramp up as well since she's running out of things to do before the final dungeon.

>> No.18425418

>>18425019
Kronii and Ame's viewer numbers stayed solid and didnt even dip when Mumei started.

>> No.18425453

>>18425343
males dominating

>> No.18425571

>>18425453
Won't be long until the top 10 has no solo girls streams at all

>> No.18425596

>>18424931
Sonic adventure 2 is the meme game for Sonic fans, think of it like when Gura played DMC 5

>> No.18425613

>>18425059
Dude, if i remember correctly cover in their public statement swear on their ancestor's grave to always got proper permission before stream anything after holocaust to quell the public

>> No.18425618

>>18425418
Did any of them passes Gura's premiere, or I should count on Mumei?

>> No.18425689

>>18425618
gura was 10.8k so not yet.
kronii is funelly close tough.

>> No.18425704

Ame finally 9k. Need a rick roll to do it.

>> No.18425737

>>18425613
Basically that. They said they would NEVER EVER use another company's IP without their explicit permission, or words to that effect. It's why you will never see Hololive play a game without that level of permissions. Ever.

>> No.18425802

>>18425689
10k , what went wrong in the enside?

>> No.18425822

>>18425613
>quell the public
Cover’s dogeza satisfied the nijiniggers until they came back to attack Aloe.

>> No.18425912

>>18425802
It was a premier

>> No.18426021

>>18425737
>Cover putting the nail in hololive's coffin themselves when Elden Ring releases and holos can't play it

>> No.18426105

>>18426021
Inb4 sponsor them but no perm

>> No.18426112

who won the lamy timeslot?

>> No.18426244

>>18424575
They can try, most flip groups in Facebook are beginning to notice what NijiEN is thanks to Luxiem. The same is probably happening in other vtuber fan communities around the world.

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>>18426112
lamy with 10k

>> No.18426334

>>18426105
There's still 10 days until launch so I wouldn't rule that possibility out.

>> No.18426384

>>18426021
Vox/Luca will probably dominate their stream timeslot but not by much. The people who are excited for Elden Ring are going to play it themselves, only the females who don't really play Souls game will watch them.

>> No.18426446

>>18426112
NijiEN with 22k

>> No.18426527
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>>18426446

>> No.18426534

>>18426334
Aqua used to be a good Sekiro speedruner wasn't she? They could sponsor her to play it again to generate hype for Elden Ring. Then they could see how big Hololive numbers are and decide to give permanent permissions. One can only hope...

>> No.18426571

>>18424931
A streamer would need the high charisma and sense of humor to make retro games work

>> No.18426626

>>18425571
one male wave away

>> No.18426629

>>18426021
Remember when everyone was worried about them not being able to play Cyberpunk?

>> No.18426647

>>18426021
EldenRingfag are you the same person who kept spamming that Selen would blow up once she started getting invited to Apex tournaments? Remind me how that turned out kek

>> No.18426698

>>18426629
True, the game could bomb.

>> No.18426742

>>18426571
>high charisma
>good sense of humour
You just described Luxiem

>> No.18426771

>>18426629
And remember when faggots said NMS will blew everyone's mind?

>> No.18426795

>>18426742
lol

>> No.18426852

>>18426698
>could bomb
>fromsoft, the creators of Dark Souls, Bloodbourne and Sekiro, 3 games considered by many to be among the greatest of games ever made
Lets be real, having The Witcher under your belt is definitely nice but even 3 had a lot of jank in the system. Fromsoft has always been quality across all games

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>>18426742

>> No.18426893

>>18426742
Luxiem has no retrofags, maybe next wave.

>> No.18426936

>>18426629
Speaking of new games, is there still any hype for Dying Light 2?
We know Holo's got perms for it (some even got sponsored) , but I don't think anyone in EN but Gura mentioned it.
Should be an easy 10k just off of new game hype.

>> No.18426976

>>18426936
no perm

>> No.18427066

>>18426936
Someone was talking about maybe playing it. Probably Pomu or Ina since I watch those two the most.

>> No.18427100

>>18426936
i belive gura confirmed it with powerwasher on her memeber stream

>> No.18427117

/#/ is declining.

>> No.18427269

>>18426742
LMFAO!! Luxiem is boring as shit. If you aren't a horny teenage girl there content offers nothing for you.

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>>18426742

>> No.18427337

>>18426742
ratio

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>>18426742
>You just described Luxiem

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>>18426742

>> No.18427426

>>18426795
>>18426856
>>18427269
>>18427295
>>18427337
>>18427364
Stop being tribalfaggots and watch streams

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>>18426742

>> No.18427530
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>>18427426
>NIJISEETHE

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>>18426742
Yikes

>> No.18427546

>>18426742
Look at him
Look at him and laugh

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>>18426742
>You just described Luxiem
>>18427426
I do unfortunately and mysta is the closer you will get.

>> No.18427636

>>18427426
I do watch shu, the others are cringe af.

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>>18426742
>Luxiem
>high charisma
>good sense of humour
>Luxiem

>> No.18427684

Looking over some vod stats and came across this which is pretty fucking hilarious.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/8Mr9iteEQqE
>Essentially nothing but Pekora fans commenting during the video
Makes sense, it's a hyped up collab on Peko's channel and something people have longed to see. How about Noel's stream then?
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/YeRF1TF0R8g
>The absolute vast majority of commenters are Pekora viewers
I've never seen a member count THAT low before during a stream on someone's channel. That's so depressing. Last night's streams were basically just Pekora and a friend.

>> No.18427698

>>18427426
You probably defend mysta's pee tweets

>> No.18427735

>>18426742
I mean you are not wrong.. they do have a good sense of humor with all those fujochink pandering

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>>18426742
>Luxiem

>> No.18427760

>>18427660
pic unrelated

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>>18427760
Numbers said otherwise

>> No.18427899

>>18427840
what number? subs?

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>>18426742

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>>18426742

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>>18426742
>>18427426

>> No.18428282

>>18427636
I mean...the unfortunate truth is that the times they do play games and don't pander, their numbers have been far less amazing. That's all there is too it. I give props to Shu for toughing it out in the NA slot for as long as he has, but I think even he would benefit moving to a slot that has more overlap with JP since he can actually speak the language.

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>>18426742
>>18427426
>>18427760
>>18427899

>> No.18428590

>>18426936
Hype for dl2 died when people got through it and found out the story is tlou2 levels of bad.

>> No.18428720

>luxiem charismatic

Gimme sunsfan and synderen duo tier vtubers, i would watch them more than the girls.

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>>18426742
>>18427426

>> No.18428800

>>18427684
Well yeah, noel doesn't just pull 30k for game streams, plus it was after their collab on peko's channel so the already watching nousagis moved over.

>> No.18428862

>>18428728
delete this

>> No.18429010

Moom pushed her stream back 15 minutes, can Ame please wrap this the fuck up and funnel properly?

>> No.18429183

>>18429010
Different branch. Doesn't count.

>> No.18429272

>>18429010
>Ame
>Funneling properly
This is the same girl who kept her stream on and was watching Gura during the karaoke relay on xmas instead of funneling right away. Also the same girl who repeatedly overlaps others with no care in the world too.
We’ll be lucky to see a proper funnel

>> No.18429389

>>18428720
based dotabro. I want a singsing vtuber too

>> No.18429756

>>18429272
Mumei had to do it manually, she'll start when Ame stops.

>> No.18429884

Why can't Kadokawa or Bandai be the middle man and allow Cover to get blanket permissions? They both benefit greatly from Hololive and could tell fromsoft that there are greater benefits to be had than ignoring them from a business perspective. Even Capcom was okay with Cover after nearly deleting mio.

>> No.18429896

>>18429756
mumei...

>> No.18430103

passed cocos graduation tweet
https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1493216366731853831
>164.9k likes
https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1402474505235169281
>160.3k likes

>> No.18430119

>>18429884
You guys care a lot more about the permissions than than the staff, talents, or corporate side do. There's tons of games to play, and handful of extra ones won't make any meaningful difference. If they instantly got permissions for every game in existence most Holos would play maybe 1-2 of those games in their entire streaming career. Some wouldn't even play any.

>> No.18430122

>>18424277
>3 separate streams where people watching multiple streams get counted as unique viewers, even those tabbed out or just listening in
vs
>1 stream where you HAVE to watch or you don't get counted
Why are Holofags so disingenuous?

>> No.18430124

>>18429896
Sigh.
Mumei is trying, she really is, but AME is just the absolute worst when it comes to cooperating on this front, isn't she.

>> No.18430139

>>18427684
>cucksagis getting cocky
you still haven't learned your lesson?

>> No.18430180

>>18430122
Multiple tabs don't count.

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>>18430124
since the begining anon

>> No.18430218

>Mumei having to delay again
Ame PLEASE…

>> No.18430221

>>18430122
???????????
How new are you? Do you not know that ever since Dec 2020, you only ever count for one view no matter how many tabs you have up?

>> No.18430259

>>18430124
If Ame keeps jacking around Mumei's waiting room is gonna surpass her live CCV, and it'll be fucking hell to recover.

>> No.18430374

>>18427100
did she do another member stream?

>> No.18430387

>>18429884
becasue video game creators are artist
and that measn they are menheras and cant take some decisions out of them.

>> No.18430469

>>18428720
i want a vtuber duo that does letsplays like oneplays or even gamegrumps

The fromat is too good to let it pass and only do it with horror games.

>> No.18430497

>>18425343
dont count the debuts. exclude those as the debut always will have high numbers by default as their first stream

>> No.18430529

>>18430374
Yes. Today, before the ASMR premiere (2pm PST).

>> No.18430571

>>18430374
She confirmed it on the nintendo watchalong

>> No.18430605

AME FOR FUCKS SAKE. There are 6.5k people in the fucking Mumei waiting room. Just fucking end already.

>> No.18430634

>>18430571
>>18430374
also ame confirmed sony permissions for uncharted BUT it needs to be on ps5 which she cant get.

>> No.18430732

>>18430103
INCLINE!!!

>> No.18430737

>>18430119
>You guys care a lot more about the permissions than than the staff or corporate side
Correct, Cover doesn't know anything or give a shit about the games they can play
>talents
Wrong, many EN holos have been on the record complaining about the insanely retarded permissions restrictions governing what they can or can't play and it's demotivating them.

>> No.18430744

>>18430605
ZZZZ
MUMEI JUST PUSHED IT BACK AGAIN
FUCKING AME.
HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS?

>> No.18430765

>>18430469
>letsplays
I'd like that too but the culture has already shifted, live audience interaction is the name of the game now. Kronii would for sure love it though.

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Marine mengen 2 day ago

>> No.18430881

>>18428720
I'm still sad Fauna didn't grab any Council member and stream a noobcast of TI way back then. No but seriously I wish they can arrange a private lobby or something, they definitely has the permissions and Fauna for one definitely need the numbers

>> No.18430928

>>18430768
>meanwhile even Council has more than 10k members
I thought gen 3 was supposed to be the best gen in the company? All of Myth have double or triple the number of members Marine has

>> No.18430986

>>18430881
i doubt dota2 would give her numbers
>>18430928
those are live views not final vod views.

>> No.18431029

>>18430881
>Dota 2
>vtubers
>Fauna for one definitely need the numbers
Delusional.

>> No.18431039

>>18430744
Only Kiara seems to understand the concept of the box and funneling in Myth. They all seem oddly ignorant of it. Council on the other hand seems to understand it greatly.

>> No.18431051

>>18430768
Wouldn’t surprise me. Gura’s member stream today had such a ridiculously fast chat too. The big names have fans anywhere it goes it seems

>> No.18431091

>>18430737
Like 2 of them have and Mori's the only one that's even made a fuss about it. But she makes a fuss about everything and Persona would make for dogshit stream content anyway.

>> No.18431112

>>18430744
2 more songs + fakeout ending and a few more songs I guess

>> No.18431176

>>18431091
Gura has stated on at least 3 occasions about being frustrated and bummed out by perms autism and management being anal.

>> No.18431239

>>18430928
Not every member in existence watches the stream live. Wouldn't be surprised if their total mebers are 4-5X what any given member stream gets live. 5k CCV on a member stream is crazy good. More telling would be a poll from her Members only post section.

>> No.18431259

>>18423554
lol just couple post and already meet the shitposter kek ----> >>18423585

>> No.18431306

>>18431176
Which games?

>> No.18431401

>>18423853
>>18424030
seeth
>no refund

>> No.18431427

>>18431306
We know Chivalry 2 is one game she was annoyed that she couldn't get perms for.
The others were just instances were she was like "Hey guys, what's up? Feeling kinda bummed out about perms stuff but it's alright, we streaming now so lets have fun".

>> No.18431499

>>18430634
wow fuck sony
>We'll give you permission to stream this game of ours but first you have to pay us 500 bucks

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nacho is fucking nuts
hope she's sleeping well

>> No.18431631

Ame going on break for a week due to travel.
At least Ina is back...

>> No.18431642

>>18431112
Why is she such an asshole? This bitch need correction!

>> No.18431717

>>18431401
>>18423658
I've noticed a sudden uptick in posts like this over the last two hours, did all the Brazilians come back home or something?

>> No.18431831

>>18431556
holy jesas

>> No.18431876

>>18431717
Most likely. The board likes to blame SEA on everything, but ES always gets a pass, it's so retarded.
ALSO FUCKING HELL AME JUST END PROPERLY FOR ONCE FORK FUCK'S SAKE.

>> No.18431891

>>18431642
Mumei has 8.4k in a waiting room.
Ame has 9.9k after singing for 2 and a half hours.

>> No.18431995

>>18431876
I assure you a good portion of the sea blame is latinx using them as a scapegoat

>> No.18432048

>>18431995
>Using latinx
You know what? Fuck it. The shitposting monkeys deserve it.

>> No.18432054

>>18425115
you can say the same thing to holo girl

>> No.18432147

>>18431427
Weird game to not get permissions for. Probably one of those cases where the person in charge just saw the email, thought it was weird, and ignored it.

>> No.18432224

>>18432054
Holos don't drop get massive audience drops when they play games.

>> No.18432237

Now its Kronii that is preventing a proper funnel.

>> No.18432263

>>18432224
gen 5 gets shit for views whenever they don't play FoTM games like ARK so you're wrong

>> No.18432335

>>18432263
Ok gen 5 schizo.

>> No.18432430

The NijiEN collab earlier had already 100% recovered its waiting room by now. These waiting room culls for HoloEN are fucking bullshit.

>> No.18432457

>>18432224
Anon, this one is pretty plainly false. Just look at Gura and her drop-off when playing DMC vs other things. There are definitely those who won't stand for absolutely terrible gameplay.

>> No.18432896

>>18432430
I think this one is an exception, it was stream with heavy delay with a funnel attach. Not like a normal frame

>> No.18433039

>Mumei drugging herself with massive amounts of caffeine for this stream
>Ame making her wait ages

>> No.18433150

COME ON KRONII

RELEASE THE FUNNEL

>> No.18433185

>>18433150
Kronii will stream for at least another half hour

>> No.18433229

>>18432896
It shouldn't matter how delayed it is as it has no effect on the rate of viewer verification. JP delayed waitingrooms recover their viewers in the usual 3-4 minutes tops.

>> No.18433231

What's with EN's obsession with "secret endings"?

>> No.18433257

>>18433185
Mumei will sing for at least another 1.5 hours.

>> No.18433288

>>18433150
Yeaaaa, that's not happening. It's actually kinda surprising how well Kronii's holding on to her numbers too, she's stayed above 10k even after Mumei started. Guess that the audience for Karaoke and non-karaoke is pretty separate for the most part, but then again this isn't new, we've known this for ages, since that time the MC streams and IRyS karaoke were happening at the same time.

>> No.18433307

Mumei + Kronii with 24.8k viewers.

>> No.18433318

>>18433229
No they don't.

>> No.18433334

>>18433231
I blame Marvel movies.

>> No.18433363

>>18433231
Only Ame and Irys, but Irys is kino

>> No.18433421

>>18433363
Nah, Fauna also pulled it with her Karaoke earlier today.

>> No.18433429

>>18433231
Ame does it to troll, IRyS does it for kino, I think it's fine.

>> No.18433523

>>18433150
NIJIEN GOLD COPE HOLOKEK

>> No.18433574

>>18433363
IRyS' secret endings aren't the same as Ame's. IRyS doesn't end the stream and then restart it. She just pops back on after the closing roll has ran for a short, cute, and erotic ASMRish statement.

>> No.18433864

Didn't really expect Mumei to get to 16k this quickly with Kronii overlapping with 10k.
If Kronii ended right now/funneled Mumei, they might actually beat the NijiEN collab lmfao.

>> No.18433882

>>18433307
And now 26.4k

>> No.18433918

>>18433864
The power of...telling people you'll stream ahead of time.

>> No.18433980

>>18433864
It's not going to happen.

>> No.18434027

>>18433864
Kek you wish holokeks
Today gold is NijiEN main channel

>> No.18434075

>>18433980
It's not. Even if she did end, not all of those viewers will move to Mumei anyways.
It could've been higher had Ame actually ended at 9pm PST, now it's too late for many on the east coast and they've likely gone to bed after Ame finished.

>> No.18434090

>>18434027
15 nijis= 2 holos

>> No.18434171

>>18434090
Still not seeing 20k from holoEN for today
Keep coping

>> No.18434183

COME ON KRONII!! RELEASE THE DAMN FUNNELL!!! THIS EN GOLD SLIP WOULD BE LEGENDARY AND I WILL SHITPOST TO THE HIGH HEAVENS!!!

>> No.18434232

If HoloEN does an all member stream or quiz show, how many viewers can it get on the HoloEN Main Channel?

>> No.18434284

ManjiEN I KNEEL.
FUJOBAIT I KNEEL.

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>>18426742
RORU

>> No.18434320

>>18434232
50-60k if they promote and not put it on the main channel

>> No.18434321

>>18434232
30k

>> No.18434351

>>18434232
30k, chunbud won't even know about the stream, and council audience is just portions of myth so..

>> No.18434405

>>18434183
Bad timeslot
Bad overlaping
She wont get 20K

>> No.18434451

>>18434232
It's not a major draw, people have learned by now that full HoloEN collabs are cringey shit.

>> No.18434518

>>18434451
You're saying as if the NijiEN full Collab was any better

>> No.18434527

>>18434351
>council audience is just portions of myth
>Mumei has 7k more than Ame's karaoke already at this godforsaken time
Ogey.

>> No.18434548

>>18434518
I have no idea, I didn't watch it.

>> No.18434573

>>18434232
Depends on how good the content is. HoloEN among us got 100k.

>> No.18434625

Actually if no JP streamer streams in the next hour or so, it's possible enough HoloJP tourists stay to enjoy Mooms karaoke to take her past 20k.

>> No.18434626

>>18434573
Don't forget the holoween and Christmas collabs

>> No.18434667
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ANYBODY FIND MEEEEEEEEEE SOMEBODY TOOOO LOVEE!!!!!!

>> No.18434677

HoloEN total 27k now.

>> No.18434684

>>18434573
The most recent one ? Damm !

>> No.18434742

There're a lots of mental gymnastics today kek

>> No.18434952

>>18434232
If they promote it properly and staff actually organizes it maybe 40-50k.

>> No.18435004

>>18434742
Anyone normal is with there gf/bf.

>> No.18435120

Lmao that 1000 people leaving and coming back in the same second was funny

>> No.18435129

That instant 1k jump when Mumei spoke again was impressive. Tabfags?

>> No.18435213

>>18435120
Legit tab-out theory in action HAHA.
It was a 1000 gone and back in 10s of her avatar moving.

>> No.18435231

Imagine the views for Moomers if Ame didn't fucking shit up prime time for almost 3 hours.

>> No.18435389

>>18435213
Realistically probably way more than 1000/17000 people tabbed out. It's likely a combination of tabbing out and taking another action like opening another stream, watching another video, ect.

>> No.18435409

>>18435231
These are Mumei's normal numbers.

>> No.18435424

Now that HoloEN is finally 3rd behind NijiEN and Vshojo, do you think both NijiEN and Vshojo can officially form a partnership to help each other grow more in parts where they are weak at?
Vshojo can gain recognition in Asia while NijiEN can attract more NA viewers.

>> No.18435466

Imagine the boost Mumei would get right now if any of the HoloJPs tweeted her stream like how Kagami did for Ike.
Japs like popular English songs anyways.

>> No.18435517

>>18435424
Based (You) farmer.

>> No.18435536

Mooms is self-sabotaging her ccv with scuffness again...

>> No.18435542

>>18435409
Naw, this is 3k more than what she usually gets and usually Mumei does karaokes without overlap and Kronii still has 9k right now.

>> No.18435552

Imagine the boost Mumei would get right now if Gura tweeted her stream.
Chumbuds like popular English songs anyways.

>> No.18435593

Holobros...
We lost to Luxcucks.

>> No.18435615

>>18435552
it's way past their bedtime

>> No.18435613

Memei 18k.

>> No.18435628

>>18435542
Fucking hell Kronii, release the damn funnel. Why do you pick now to finally do a long stream after months. Jeez.

>> No.18435629

>>18435466
They're all sleeping, Roberto is the only one even streaming.

>> No.18435639

>>18435542
Those 3k are probably teammates.

>> No.18435678

>>18435629
>They're all sleeping
It's 3:43 pm...

>> No.18435680

>>18435466
Just a reminder that Fubuki liked Mori’s costume reveal then proceeded to stream to 40k people while her outfit stream was happening
Aside from Mel/Roboco you’ll be pressed to find any JP member who will ever attempt to push an EN

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>> No.18435726

>>18435678
>Thinking that it's SEAfags or JPbros who bother watching her live at her usual slot
Delusional.

>> No.18435768

>>18435680
Polka and Watame would do it.

>> No.18435797

I miss her...

>> No.18435861

Luxcucks GOLD
Luxcucks GOLD
Luxcucks GOLD
Holocope

>> No.18435922

>>18435768
I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. They actually do interact with EN members. The rest though? They’ll drop dead before doing it.
Ina drew Aqua an entire MV for her cover song and the most she got out of it was a small acknowledgement during a chatting stream.

>> No.18436066

>>18435922
Shilling fee is too expensive.

>> No.18436107

>>18435922
>The most she got out of it
You mean, besides obviously getting paid, right?

>> No.18436116

How to fix holostars /#/ bros?
Nijijp male can topping the chart, now their EN side can too
Or holostars is just dogshit streamer / entertainer all along?

>> No.18436172

>>18436066
I’m not even sure if Marine even acknowledged either that Ina contributed to her artbook too.
Ina legitimately has to be one of the most openly disrespected talents in hololive but one of the most respected internally. It’s pretty hilarious

>> No.18436175

>>18435922
JP members don't even promote each other unless they are friends or involved in the event.

>> No.18436183

>>18435922
She also got to sing at her concert.

>> No.18436188

>>18436116
Your ESL is showing, shitposter-kun.

>> No.18436198

mumei really is tanking her ccv with this scuff

>> No.18436261

>>18435424
They are already in lovey dovey relationship

>> No.18436283

>>18436198
mumei really mumeing her ccv with this scuff

>> No.18436310

>>18436172
She gets paid for her work like any other artists, retard. They need not be overdramatic about it if they're really close, which I think they are.

>> No.18436363

>>18426742
wwww I came here to laugh at you

>> No.18436374

>>18436116
Holostars consistently beats down Niji bottom feeders. I don't know what are you on about.

>> No.18436421

>>18436116
New wave needs an english speaker.

>> No.18436447

ホロプロTwitterいいね数トップ10(JPのみ)

30.0万 桐生ココ 最後のツイート
16.9万 潤羽るしあ 生存報告現在更新中
16.0万 桐生ココ 卒業告知配信後初ツイ
11.6万 白上フブキ 金コイ
11.2万 桐生ココ 卒業配信告知
10.1万 荒咬オウガ Suica
9.9万 湊あくあ 登録者100万人
9.6万 湊あくあ ソロマス達成
9.5万 宝鐘マリン Unison
9.5万 潤羽るしあ 新衣装

>> No.18436489

>>18436447
>荒咬オウガ
what the fuck did Oga do?

>> No.18436491

>>18435922
Because they aren't fakes like the other groups where they need to consistently "expose" discord chat logs to show how close they are with each other.

>> No.18436523

>>18436489
I think it was the dice game drama.

>> No.18436559

>>18436489
https://twitter.com/aragamioga/status/1488860550478319617

>> No.18436570

Kronii is STILL holding onto 9k viewers. Don't the fags watching Kronii know whats at stake here?

>> No.18436594

>>18436310
>The only talent who’s animated their own covers
>The only talent who’s made official merch for the company
>The only talent who’s drawn a video for another in the company
Come on, you can at least say she deserves a -little- more respect for doing things no one else can do or has done in the company. Who cares if they’re friends or not. Hell, I’d think friends would be more willing to support them openly than making them an afterthought

>> No.18436624

>>18436447
Anyone have EN list?

>> No.18436627

>>18436447
>Coco 160k grad tweet
>491k views

>> No.18436632

>>18436570
Fake medals?

>> No.18436642

>>18436594
You got the second one wrong anonchama

>> No.18436667

>>18435680
HoloJP and HoloEN fans have little overlaps unlike in NijiJP and NijiEN males where they cannibalize each other's audience.

>> No.18436683

>>18436594
Ok, they are not friends. Ina is just cheap labor.

>> No.18436688

>>18436570
…nothing?

>> No.18436692

>>18436627
Someone post Lulu's graduation numbers.

>> No.18436700

>>18436559
that's it? just his subway card that he used for the past 20 years

>> No.18436708

>>18436570
It's Kronii's fault for playing this autism simulator for 4 hours instead of moving onto superchats or even better, closing the stream.

>> No.18436718

>>18436632
It's still real to me dammit!!!

>> No.18436745

>>18436570
Her fans had to survive a week without her. Let them have this.

>> No.18436756

>>18436642
I guess Sana made council tapestry. I don’t recall anyone else making official merch though

>> No.18436762

>>18436570
This god forsaken fake ass mogoloid barbarian's shitposting carp of a "medal" is not "stake"

>> No.18436765

>>18436594
Pretty sure Mori has done animations for some of her MVs anon.

>> No.18436799

>>18436708
The only autism simulator Kronii is playing is her life.

>> No.18436830

>>18436570
Its ok, the EN gold guy already confirmed he is not counting main "official" channels. Only individual vtuber channels.

>> No.18436838

>>18436594
That's because you don't watch Holo streams, nigger. If you do, you would have seen the girls fighting over Ina in that one episode where they have to choose which seat mate they would want to have among Holos.

>> No.18436844

impressive display from holos on valentines
En included
i think only ina,sana and you could say gura underperfromend but gura was a rpemiere and looks to have 200k views in the next hours and alreadysurprassed the niji collab that was 2hrs and 20k.

>> No.18436897

>>18436667
Mysta, vox and lcua are more in the SEA side than JP. Ike and shu have more JP viewers.

>> No.18436940

>>18436897
>SEA
can we stop saying this just because its what we originally thought. Its clear now that their viewership is Zhang, not SEA.

>> No.18436944

>>18436844
it actually makes want them to overlap with no debuffs and see how many viewers they hold togheter.

>> No.18436960

https://youtu.be/87HyU_uDXi4
https://youtu.be/G5sb0JvL9lo
https://youtu.be/Ni0FV0g3E0Q
https://youtu.be/stmZAThUl64
Moona is really going all out for her birthday.

>> No.18436992

>>18436897
Sea niggers watch JP chuubas on primetime along with the zhangs because of scheduling. They are all part of the JP main audience.

>> No.18437027

>>18436844
>surprassed the niji collab that was 2hrs and 20k.
I mean, that collab isn't likely going to pass Mori's Valentines day stream (20 mins longer) and this peaked at 11k viewers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6zqDeW_SGk

>> No.18437046

God this is so fucking frustrating. Fucking hell Kronii!! I'm actually getting pissed.

>> No.18437050

>>18436992
mysta and vox can overlap with kanae, fuwa and kuzuha and dont lose much.
however if they overlap each other they drop a lot

>> No.18437152

>>18437050
Do you have the graphs for it cause I succinctly remember some anon here showed heavy overlaps with the homos on JP side contrary to what you're claiming now.

>> No.18437160

>>18436844
Gura really didn’t underperform I feel. Take this for example:
https://youtu.be/rQguXb277rA
A 1 min Laplus valentines day message that’s at 270k. Not that it’s a great comparison by any stretch, but short videos would naturally gain way more views due to the nature of being replayable. But by the time tomorrow comes the Gura vod will likely have somewhere around 240-250k. That’s really a lot I feel for a niche video, and it’ll always have playability down the line too. This isn’t a great comparison at all but Okayu did a 2hr+ public asmr and got 116k yday also:
https://youtu.be/35ttVJ2Ouzk
So for a premiere, I feel like it did pretty solid

>> No.18437310

>>18437152
NTA, but you can just wait till the next time they all overlap.
Kuzuha didn't dip at all when Vox and Mysta started their streams last time they all overlapped (CR Val scrim day 2) but he gutted Kanae who was also streaming scrims.
>heavy overlaps
the most you can say is "some overlap", there was never any evidence of "heavy overlap"

>> No.18437370

>>18437160
the underperform i mean on ccv but i do agree that guras vods cant be overstimated.

>> No.18437376

>>18436830
I'm the "EN gold guy" and I said no such thing. The only thing is that if NijiEN wins I will put a picture of the Chinese flag as per tradition.

>> No.18437424

>>18437376
Put a taiwanese flag instead.

>> No.18437461

>>18437027
I legitimately don’t know how that vod got so many views. That one will likely be one of the biggest mysteries of EN honestly. That’s something you’d expect out of Gura. I mean fuck, chadcast peaked higher and has had 2 weeks of people capable of watching it and they’re the same views basically

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>>18436960

>> No.18437485

>>18437160
Didn't she failed to get some equipments for her Valentines project and said she needs to think up something else? Not sure if this is still her original intent, but she sure did not waste her time during catching the coof (and the engagement looks even better than the 2021 clip compilation).

She still missed out a big payday though.

>> No.18437536

>>18422962
Choco Merch
515 Full Sets
64 Dakis
50 Bowls
34 ASMR Hug
27 ASMR Happy Birthday

>> No.18437538

HoloEN really needs new contents,
new games,new talents,new collabs.
Luxiems are humiliting HoloEN.

>> No.18437555

>>18437160
VODs will do extra well because even the pedo police will click on it from the thumbnail to get mad at it.
I'm always surprised Gura is terrified of being cancelled, yet encourages her artists to continue drawing her as pedobait by using said art for thumbnails.

>> No.18437571

>>18437046
Stop letting numberrot warp your perception.
Only a small fraction of her viewers will shift over to another stream even if she ended, EN viewers do not funnel well unless they outright tell them what stream to go to for a relay.

>> No.18437573

>>18436489
>>18436700
He caught the attention of the twitter algo and it boosted his tweet to the high heavens

>> No.18437575

>>18436844
Why do EN retards have so much overlap? what do they get from that?

>> No.18437583

>>18437461
Everyone in Myth is anomaly.

>> No.18437587

>>18437555
cant cancell you if you only interact with memebers

>> No.18437646

>>18437485
She ordered a ku100 but didn’t receive it in time so she had to use her other asmr mic iirc. So yea her plans did get ruined and she had to resort to something else.
She got paid in her membership stream today so it’s ok. Think some dude dropped a fat $500 dono somewhere in there

>> No.18437696

>>18437555
She will never confirm her taste.

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>>18437555
That's cause she's really not

>> No.18437781

>>18437461
The Ministry stream also got like 500k views in the first week despite being 1 hr and peaking at 17k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgEsyuN8oKY

>> No.18437804

Holy shit
Kronii has been streaming for four hours,
her longest stream ever?

>> No.18437832

>>18437804
It activated her autism.

>> No.18437849

>>18437804
>her longest stream ever?
not really she has a few 5hr-6hr
she loves to go late.

>> No.18437866

>>18437804
The fact that Kronii can play with this level of autism for hours is kind of endearing. I wonder if she has played Minecraft before? She would probably get big views playing that.

>> No.18437900

>>18437555
The things Gura says is legitimately hilarious and ridiculous that it’s hard to tell if she knows what she’s doing or if she really is unaware. She’s the type to end up being the downright kinkiest and dirtiest person you’d meet, and in the same breath would mix crayons into a smoothie just to try it. She’s really a dumb child in an adult’s body. Probably why she sticks to members streams for things

>> No.18437934

>>18437866
Don't think they have the permissions for that game.

>> No.18437939

>>18437571
I don't watch streams. I just stay on the numberfag sites refreshing the numbers.

>> No.18437986

>>18437646
She didnt receive it in time because she ordered it 3 weeks ago, and even in 2019 the lead-time required for a KU to just reach shipping is 6 weeks minimum.
Nowadays lead time is closer to 6 months because of demand and shortages.

And her superchat income is basically pocket change for her, she gets like 3-4x her super income in membership income.

>>18437939
Then you would already know what i said, that EN viewers do not funnel well so stop your whining.

>> No.18437996

>>18437646
>but I wan't my sweet playboard numbers

>> No.18438070

>>18437781
Yup. I made a post a week or so back about this and how it’s actually one of the strongest vods in hololive in a very long time (ignoring holox debuts and beginning streams.) It had close to the same amount of live messages as the Lui collab and also outperformed that vod post processing and just in general afterwards, despite lui having a 47k average/60k peak. That council stream had a 15k waiting room and could not break 16/17k at all. It probably was a 40k+ stream

>> No.18438074

>>18437583
Then that means Luxiem is 5 lightnings in a bottle

>> No.18438135

>>18438074
I don't mean in CCV or SC.

>> No.18438195

FUCKING KRONII STOP STREAMING MUMEI NEEDS TO BEAT NIJISANJI
OF ALL TIMES TO STREAM FOR HOURS YOU PICK NOW? NIJIS ARE GOING TO WIN THE FUCKING GOLD MEDAL AAAAAAGH

>> No.18438227 [DELETED] 

>>18438070
lmao Mumei is peaked higher today for her karaoke at the middle of the night while overlapping with Kronii than that full Council stream with no overlap.
I think EN numbers might have been still been mega fucked back then and has gotten better recently (altho the Mori stream is still fucking weird).

>> No.18438272

>>18438195
Wow nijien is going to win the special Olympics medal for the 3rd time this month.

>> No.18438313

>>18438195
Meds.

>> No.18438338

>>18438195
Its so fucking frustrating man. I think its too late now even if the funnel is released. She would have had to do it earlier.

>> No.18438388

Man, mumei keep a consistent 17k for over 2 hours.

>> No.18438412

>>18438135
Imagine being that faggot that boils everything down to CCV and SC instead of actual objective values like entertainment value

>> No.18438470

>>18438412
And in the numbers thread of all places.

>> No.18438474

Alright Mumei has said "a few more" so we've got about an hour of karaoke left.

>> No.18438545

>>18438272
What's the record for this month so far? (Holo vs Niji vs VShoujo vs etc)

>> No.18438567

Mumei trending on twitter???

>> No.18438569

>>18438474
She overdosed on caffeine again?

>> No.18438579

>>18438227
Yeah it’s a frustrating experience seeing it happen. It’s like no one is saying/thinks EN has more viewers than JP primetime and shi right, it just sucks when you see a stream come to a full stop when everything else around it is exploding.
It was like the Gura clip premiere that had “6k” ccv but averaged 700 messages a min with a couple 1k peaks there. Not even a Gura stream but a damn clip video averaging more messages a min than like 95% of hololive at 6k ccv. It’s just dumb

>> No.18438582

>>18438412
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.18438583

>>18438567
She trends every karaoke, it's nothing new.

>> No.18438595

>>18437536
That's really good money for Choco. Glad to see as a Chocomate.

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