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18242276 No.18242276 [Reply] [Original]

Why is GFE accepted as a concept and product? It's asking to make unstable people even more unstable and create a gigantic dip in the revenue of your vtuber some a YAB happens and the idiots abandon ship. And let's not even talk about the potential idiots trying to cut their wrists and threaten to kys

>> No.18242398

Emotional manipulation to milk lonely fucks from their wallets. This has existed since written history, just a new application of the same concept.

>> No.18242510

>>18242276
Because we don't care about the mentally ill. Everyone is a fraction as righteous and good as they say they are.

>> No.18242756

>>18242398
>>18242510
I disagree with this. It's not manipulation but a result of supply and demand. It is a solution to the pandemic of loneliness, and mutually beneficial to both the talent and the viewer. It should be viewed the same way as anti-depressent drugs or other products.

>> No.18242891

>>18242756
Assuming they don't fuck up, sure. The damage has surpassed the benefit. They're lonelier than ever now.

>> No.18243121

>>18242276
because it sells, duh

>> No.18243318

>>18242276
Supply & demand

>> No.18243367

>>18242756
>It's not manipulation
Sounds about right. Lonely faggots knew what they were signing for and the stuff that could happen in the future.

>> No.18243457

>>18243367
Do a thought experiment with me
>It's the year 2000
>someone you and your friends know believes a real woman pretending to be an anime character is his wife
>he gives her tens of thousands of dollars even though they will never meet
Would you or anyone you know in the year 2000 not believe he was mentally ill?

>> No.18243491

>>18242276
Because there are lots of low testosterone men with a crushing need to feel desired by a woman.
Now stop getting 4tran to write your humanities thesis for you, grad fag.

>> No.18243537

>>18242276
High risk High reward.

>> No.18243572

>>18242756
anti-depressants arent the solution either anon, drugs just make you forget about the problem, they dont solve them.

>> No.18243653

>>18242398
>This has existed since written history
pretty sure idols got invented in japan because the market for that kind of stuff exists due to their fucked up culture that manufactures social recluses by the boatload

>> No.18243688

>>18243572
Can even make the situation worst when one eventually have to stop take them.
The medications complement a lot of chemicals,
chemicals the body will just stop producing if supplied from outside sources.
My Mom got extremely instable for a few month after reducing her depression medecine. When she was never a person to be angry a everything.

>> No.18243703

>>18243457
That's mental illness, yes. But it's a weird comparison since there's nothing making him give money to that waifu. In the case of GFE, it's a character constantly interacting with the viewers, thus this mentally ill person has an actual motivation to send money to the person (being noticed for a brief moment)

>> No.18246425

>>18243457
Replace anime character with "girl from Russia" (kek) and that's literally what happened in the 2000s.

>> No.18248053

>>18242276
Vtubers are the closest thing we currently have to actual anime waifus, full stop. Newfags/casuals/ironic weebs balk at the idea, but no it's been a very real thing in Japan for decades. So, it works there for someone to try hard to play that part. The fact that chuubas who make no attempt at GFE/gosling-inducing behaviors will STILL get goslings and gachikoi anyway proves that it's an inherent thing from the audience - the question is, which ones look to exploit these kinds of emotions or not.

Rushia and Lamy are the ones who do in Holo but it's really Rushia like 5x over Ramy, Lamy does the part too but isn't actually attempting to corral her fans to be limited to only her and going around looking up her top donors' social media accounts to go nag them on (rushia actually does this). So that's like, 2 real GFE ones, out of 50. It's actually not common for there to be ones explicitly oriented towards that, more like it's just an incidental thing that they try to do on the side if they notice there's an interest for that.

Granted many JPs do ASMR and voice packs and such things, and a bunch are signed up to do that Valentine's event thing etc, but these ones still generally produce actual content 99% of the time otherwise and aren't laser-focused on the GFE/role play waifu part. Rushia, once again, was in fact that and she really isn't jack shit if you tried to sum her up outside the GFE aspect. She literally does nothing but suck at games, can't sing or dance, has really not much of anything interesting to say/talk about otherwise. All she is good at is sounding cute and looking/acting helpless to elicit feelings of wanting to cherish/protect her, really she could have been an ideal daughter-stand in type if she wanted but she instead went for the GFE route.

>> No.18248145

>>18243457
If you told me "it's a Japanese person playing the part of a sort-of interactive anime character and these mega-donors are Japanese dudes" I'd have believed it. I was watching anime back then a bit but was already dimly-aware of dudes into bishoujo girls and such mostly from seeing statues for things like NGE at the local anime shop and not knowing a whole lot more. Still though just from having a dim awareness some Japanese dudes really-really love anime girls I would have guessed yes it's real.

>> No.18250271

>>18242756
parasocial relationships are not the solution to any problem. this is exploitation from the emotionally vulnerable.

>> No.18250404

>>18242756
ogey Terumi

>> No.18250441

>>18242276
It's accepted because it's widely desired.
Just like a lot of thing that's bad for you and addictive.
Question should be OP, why do you think people are drawn to GFE and becomes paypigs?

>> No.18250551

>>18242276
I was surprised to learn this week that they still advertise psychic reading call ins at like 4 am. Phone sex hotlines also still exist. GFE is the same as these products.

>> No.18250619

>>18242276
>Why is alchohal accepted as a concept and product? It's asking to make unstable people even more unstable and create a gigantic dip in the revenue of your bar/store some a YAB happens and the idiots abandon ship. And let's not even talk about the potential idiots trying to drink and drive and threaten to kys

>> No.18250823

Isn't GFE just basically a dating simulator to prepare you to get a real GF? and i's free thanks to batsu not being able accept reality from fantasy. I kneel and pray the Orcas of Vtubing figure that out.

>> No.18250846

>>18242276
Selling your company is one of humanity's oldest trade. Wouldn't GFE/BFE be just fine if the vtuber doing it would graduate before getting into an actual relationship? Probably not because it's more complicated than that. The real problem is that there is a market for this in the first place, because right now we live in a time where loneliness is at an all time high.

>> No.18250907

>>18250823
GFE helps you to gain relationships experience and prepare you for real relationships just as much as playing CoD and Battlefield helps you to become a soldier

>> No.18250925

>>18242276
Because there has been an increasing trend in lonely males for the past 4 decades and they provide an experience for those males to cope with. Their only role is to secure that experience by preventing their roastie experiences from ever breaking the illusion of their product. The buyers are fully aware it's a roastie voicing the character, but as long as that girlfriend experience illusion is maintained, they'll keep being extremely loyal paypigs. Rushia is just one of the many stupid roasties who got too comfortable with their roles and let their guard down, letting reality break the illusion of the GFE. Rushia is a whore, like all the roasties, but her mistake makes her a stupid whore.
I doubt it'll be a huge problem for her though once she makes a statement. Rushia has had a decent support before she became a full GFE character. Her revenue might decrease, but she'll still be streaming supachas from lonely nips.

>> No.18251366

>>18242276
The weak and stupid exist to be milked by the strong and the smart. It's been that way for thousands of years and it won't stop any time soon

>> No.18251648

>>18242276
>create a gigantic dip in the revenue of your vtuber some a YAB happens and the idiots abandon ship
Or, and I know this is a crazy idea, the vtubers that voluntarily and consciously decide to do explicit GFE could simply not be in a relationship while they do GFE? Because there's actually very few things that will upset fans of a GFE vtuber aside from them being in a relationship, which itself is something that they can simply avoid.

>> No.18253934

>>18242276
it's not like I can get any more mentally unstable

>> No.18255778

>>18243703
>viewers
ViewerS, plural. There's thousands of people in chat and new suoerchats that get the same lovey dovey response every other minute. What depths of cognitive dissonance do you have to reach to just shut all of this out and fully belieb it's just you and the anime png?

>> No.18258127

>>18250907
Honestly a GFE chuuba gave me the balls to ask a girl out so it at least helped me a bit. If only she had said yes, then I could test if it actually worked

>> No.18258791
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>>18251366
I love standing at the top. It's so much fun.

>> No.18259434

>>18242276
It's not like it's marketed as a healthy thing, or really at all. There's simply a demand, so content creators provide. If there ISN'T a yab, as Rushia hitherto demonstrated, it can generate obscene revenue

>> No.18259524

>>18242276
>Why is GFE accepted as a concept and product?
Because it's a direct evolution of hostess clubs from Japan, it's part of their culture from the very beginning.

>> No.18259799

>>18243572
Drugs are literally designed to fix or reduce the problem at a chemical level. If they don't, you either need a better paychiatrist, or you don't actually NEED meds, just need to be less of a bitch.

>> No.18259882

>>18258127
Grats on getting the balls to do it. The most important thing is to initiate so you know if you're rejected or accepted so you can move on. People that have cold feet in initiating tend to dwell on a person for far too long and waste their time and emotional energy on someone they don't even know would like them.

>> No.18259899

>>18243457
Comparing a person who won't go outside and talk to real people, forming a one sided relationship with a Japanese streamer online alongside tens of thousands of men, to mental illness that causes people to be incapable of rational thought like severe autism, is stupid
Unicorns are not handicaps. No one forced their hands to click superchat.

>> No.18259935

>>18259799
Typo more accurate than the real word

>> No.18261606

>>18242276
>Why is GFE accepted as a concept and product?
Lonely simp, also why pornhub,twitch whores, and onlyfans are super popular.

>> No.18263008
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18263008

Its weak stupid and exploitative, but what exactly can anyone do?
The amount of men that are still virgins in their 30's has been increasing since 2010, god knows how high it is at this point, this is made worse by how unstable the world is.

Affection is something people need or they'll go nuts, sadly these people are the most affection any of these men will get, I say this as someone who's 38 and a wizard, I just don't give these girls money because I've mostly supressed the need for that affection, though I still feel lonely sometimes.
I'm torn on it, on one end I think gachis are pathetic, on another its their money and who I am to fuck with someone else's happniess.

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>>18242276

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