Vtubers you used to watch regularly but recently dropped entirely.

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Anonymous Tue Feb 8 20:56:51 2022 No.17969374 [Reply] [Original]

Vtubers you used to watch regularly but recently dropped entirely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 20:58:10 2022 No.17969427 File: 59 KB, 293x338, 1616167260847.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 20:58:58 2022 No.17969457 Rosemi, Petra before luxiem started to gang rape them

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:06:38 2022 No.17969751 >Used to watch >Only image posted has a 4chan filename Let me guess, she was never you oshi and this is a lazy attempt at bait

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:07:03 2022 No.17969763 Ame, Sana before the hiatus

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:20:05 2022 No.17970250 >>17969751 >newfag doesn't know about certain browser extensions

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:23:14 2022 No.17970358 >>17969374 Every single Holo and Niji. Been watching more 2view indies lately, and I regret nothing

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:23:57 2022 No.17970385 >>17969374 Hey, me too!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:38:10 2022 No.17970888 >>17969374 dude same

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 21:44:27 2022 No.17971156 Gura last year. I moved on to council members.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:02:55 2022 No.17971922 >>17969374 Kronii because I realized she doesn't want me as a fan

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:04:08 2022 No.17971978 >>17971922 I feel she has been opening up more to the fans and has fallen deeper into the parasocial relationship with her fans though. I don't get this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:06:05 2022 No.17972075 >>17971978 I feel like she only cares about a small select number of highly active fans who constantly superchat her, and would rather only have them and kick all the rest of us out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:06:09 2022 No.17972083 >>17969763 >Sana >Stream regularly kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:06:38 2022 No.17972126 Selen. Boring and tiresome now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:12:09 2022 No.17972434 Ina Gura Finana Nina.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:52:13 2022 No.17974465 Gura and Ina

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:53:31 2022 No.17974538 >>17972126 This.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:54:23 2022 No.17974587 >>17969374 Ina, Selen. But I didn't watch them regularly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:55:55 2022 No.17974670 >>17969374 same but not out of spite, I kind of just tuned out when she stopped doing Gesture streams and cut down on drawing in general. I still go through those 20 or so VODs

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:56:50 2022 No.17974739 >>17972075 Examples of behaviour you're basing this on? Preferably with timestamps. I've never watched her outside of collabs so I'm just curious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 22:57:51 2022 No.17974806 >>17969374 OP's picrelated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:00:09 2022 No.17974929 >>17972126 I'm thankful I realized how boring Selen is within just a few minutes of watching her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:01:03 2022 No.17974983 All of HoloEN. Not gonna go into why because I don't wanna start drama. Either way, I've found smaller corpos, indies and even some NijiEN chuubas that I enjoy more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:02:13 2022 No.17975050 >>17969374 Most of HoloEN. I only keep up with Ame and Gura

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:02:21 2022 No.17975057 >>17974739 I've seen a bunch of people here saying that she hates streaming but I've not really seen any evidence of this. I'm not subbed to her so kinda curious where this stuff is coming from also

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:04:50 2022 No.17975186 >>17972083 hence "before the hiatus"

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:06:06 2022 No.17975269 >>17972126 Same, and every time I tune in there's one of the luxfags speaking which instantly makes me close the stream.

Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:08:35 2022 No.17975407
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>>17969374
Also Ina but in my case it's been a couple of months, the rest of HoloEN even earlier. Been waiting for the last Blue Period watchalong stream to deactivate my membership.
I also used to watch tons of Phase Connect, but in the end I only liked Tenma. Felt a bit cucked when she started pandering to the twitch crowd so I left.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:09:20 2022 No.17975445 >>17969374 gura and ame

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:10:01 2022 No.17975471 All of HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:12:01 2022 No.17975571 >>17969374 I watched Gura regularly at the start, but nowadays I never watch her. I've tried again a few times but I can't remember last time I actually got through a stream. She just feels kinda boring nowadays.

Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:14:25 2022 No.17975682

>>17975057
That's a combination of her general lack of streaming and her literally saying that the reason she doesn't like streaming Minecraft is that she'd rather be left alone when she plays it and while this could have just meant that Minecraft was her zen game, when you factor in her general lack of streaming, it's pretty obvious that this sentiment extends to other games as well.
There's also a lot of dead air on her streams and she's not very good at interacting with her chat either so I think streaming's just not really her jam and she also realised this.

Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:16:41 2022 No.17975777
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>>17969374
I actually don't dislike NijiEN men, but I ain't no cuck - I'm not gonna donate to women so they can hang out with other dudes. I un-membered all of them as soon as Luxiem dropped. No hard feelings at all, mind - just not something I felt like paying for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:17:44 2022 No.17975831 >>17972434 Same here except Nina

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:47:56 2022 No.17977315 Pikamee I just got bored

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 8 23:54:58 2022 No.17977603 File: 36 KB, 640x640, 1642314862738.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17969374 i dropped all of them for anime

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 00:03:44 2022 No.17977978
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>>17969374
Actually Ina as well. Not for any particular reason, I've just been watching fewer streams in general, especially holo en.
I do want to "catch up" on her at some point, because I still think Ina is great, but i just don't feel like it right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:00:46 2022 No.17980623 >>17977603 Feeling like this right now

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:04:09 2022 No.17980795 >>17969427 >>17969374 T-T

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:06:49 2022 No.17980910 >>17977603 I'm a good major boyfriend event away from being there with you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:07:42 2022 No.17980951 >>17977603 reject vtuber return to slice of life

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:08:34 2022 No.17980991 Every single hololive. Luxiem came out and caters to me as a Fujo so I no longer need to settle for Mori being a dreamy tomboy

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:09:22 2022 No.17981023 >>17977603 It all comes full circle in the end

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:11:55 2022 No.17981150 Hololive entirely

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:18:30 2022 No.17981546 >>17980991 >as a Fujo Ywnbw

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:22:18 2022 No.17981752 >>17975777 I have never given a dime to Holo or Niji. Why tip successful corpos that many others already support.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:22:23 2022 No.17981759

>>17975682
Too bad because (unlike certain Myth members) she's actually good during collabs and really her attitude affected whole gen 2 since with her voice combined with booba model she was a stand out attracting a lot of attention from the casuals after debut.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:26:21 2022 No.17981986

I haven't necessarily "dropped" anyone yet but I've been watching less streams/VODs in general.
I don't know. . . the magic has started to kinda fade away.
I was a clipfag for quite a while prior to HoloEN's debut and I was ecstatic when they trinity turned out to be better than expected.
I was genuinely excited for their streams when I could catch them and would watch pretty much every VOD besides superchat readings but these days I mostly just watch VODs when I have nothing else to do and I've completely lost that excited, giddy feeling I used to get.
I guess the honeymoon phase is over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:27:25 2022 No.17982047 Kiara. I watched her every day for 6 months, and now I literally have no idea what she's been doing, her personal struggles, her memes, her growth, I'm beyond out of the loop

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:27:41 2022 No.17982061 >>17977603 Come to think of it, why have there been no chuubas that discuss anime manga in detail? If there are talks about them, it's always just a passing remark. Is it because of the corporate rules?

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:29:40 2022 No.17982155 >>17982061 Because if you say X manga is bad as a Holo girl you may offend some author's feelings Idols have to be corporate and at the very least not shit on things considering they depend on collabs, sponsors and promos

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:29:45 2022 No.17982163 >>17982061 I'm pretty sure they aren't really allowed to express a lot of strong opinions on things in general. You know, to not accidently burn bridges for Cover.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:29:57 2022 No.17982175 >>17982061 no, it's cuz they don't want u to find out they have normie tier taste and are just pretending to be waifus for the money with zero interest whatsoever in otaku culture

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:30:16 2022 No.17982197 >>17982061 Talking about one particular thing in detail isn't great for streams because it excludes people who aren't familiar with it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:31:21 2022 No.17982261 >>17982175 Lel Some of them are near otaku though

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:32:41 2022 No.17982331 >>17969374 Pomu before started havin Discord sex and planning real sex with luxiem boys

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:33:19 2022 No.17982360 >>17982175 Basically this, for a lot of them (I suspect Mumei and Fauna.) The most they could say is "oh yeah Cowboy Bebop? I watched the live action on Netflix, that was so cool!"

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:33:23 2022 No.17982366 >>17982331 pomubros is this reel

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:34:25 2022 No.17982422 >>17982360 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:34:37 2022 No.17982435 File: 41 KB, 346x508, 1634955220455.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All of them mostly. vtubers are just getting stale recently. I love my hagwife though

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:35:42 2022 No.17982502
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Honestly I've just kind of stopped watching vtubers for the most part almost entirely. Ina is the closest to someone I watch consistently but even then she's not someone I go out of my way to catch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:36:42 2022 No.17982561 >>17982435 Pochi is a hag?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:37:10 2022 No.17982584 >>17982561 are you new?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:39:02 2022 No.17982668 >>17982561 Relatively, but I don't generally care about artist chuubas to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:40:05 2022 No.17982712 >>17982584 oops >>17982668

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:41:11 2022 No.17982777 >>17982061 Some do but they'll often dance around it to avoid offending fans and/or the author. Remember what happened last year with Marine and Miko?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 01:43:32 2022 No.17982888 >>17982777 that author was so pathetic. fujoshis truly deserve the rope

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:00:09 2022 No.17983654 >>17977603 The circle begins anew.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:17:34 2022 No.17984492 >>17975682 >Lot of dead air Kek at least she never have a stream when she just say greeting, play a game without talking even a single world and then end the stream just like my oshi in her earliest days right? She can improve herself if she wants to

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:23:17 2022 No.17984781

>>17975777
Very true. I wonder if loyal nijiEN cucks are either having sex or have never talked to a woman and don’t understand how thirsty the average normie male faggot really is. Because I dont know anyone who’d watch their oshi get low key hit on every stream and not feel like a massive cuck. Dance around it all you want, call if 100% platonic, you’re a cuck for watching.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:42:52 2022 No.17985711 >>17969374 All holos except for my oshi

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:47:24 2022 No.17985943

I did feel burned out but I actually watched (or listened to) all of Selen's 11 hour beedrill endurance.

Not all in one sitting, mind. Two hours a day. It wasn't bad. But still a lot of "what do you meaaaaaan?!?!" laughing dragon that would get on your nerves if that already filters you.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:52:15 2022 No.17986178

>>17974739
>>17975057
Simply put, there is a handful of fans who she actively replies to by name on stream, on twitter and favorite/responds in comment section on member polls/content.
This includes some of the regular posters on the split, this obviously made a large amount of fans feel uneasy and ignored, some degree of having favorites are fine, but she did take it a bit far

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:53:31 2022 No.17986241 Is this the new /wah/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:55:29 2022 No.17986349 >>17977603 >anime fucking gay

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:55:55 2022 No.17986376 >>17984781 The only true cuck in nijiEN is reimufag, bitch literally invited Vox to member movie date

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:56:47 2022 No.17986421

Kizuna AI After the clone replacement incident
Coco after she cried about light criticism on Reddit.
Kaguya Luna she stopped uploading.
Omega Sisters after youtube removed community subs. Still sad about this one.
All of Lazulight before Gen 2 debuted. They’re content was getting stale.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 02:57:05 2022 No.17986433

Definitely pomu and elira ever since nijimen gangbang them every stream, it’s actually unbearable because I like the girls voices and it’s soothing but the guys ruin every situation and I’m not trying to listen to some homos. I’ll watch the girls in solo streams occasionally but it feels like they literally always bring up one of the fags and it just disinterests me. Sorry

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:01:30 2022 No.17986718 >>17986178 Holy yikes. >some degree of having favorites are fine No, it's not. This may fly with indies but holos are supposed to be "professional" entertainers, not internet children creating cliques.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:01:54 2022 No.17986743 It seems like everyone is just losing interest in general. What could chuubas do to spice things up?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:03:46 2022 No.17986861 Used to like ina for her asmr. But then I learned what a cunt she was, and there are many other vtubers out there with better ASMR than Ina.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:05:38 2022 No.17987006 >>17986433 same desu I think at this point I'm happy just watching clips of HoloJP girls and studying so I can understand them better

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:09:43 2022 No.17987271 File: 342 KB, 1920x1080, hqdefault+(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17986349 your mother is a WHORE AND YOURE A FAGGOT

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:17:37 2022 No.17987808

>>17969374
Pretty much dropped all of the Hololive girls sans a few from ID as none of them ever managed to hold my attention and interest for long (didn't help that I have a strong desinterest in anything idol related), though I still watch Holostars a lot.
Also dropped NijiEN months ago, Lazu and Rosemi and Selen just started to bore me a lot after a while, I never quite liked Petra, Ethyria never caught my attention much and, by the time Luxiem arrived, I didn't have enough interest in NijiEN left to bother giving them a chance, even though I was excited about them adding males (and from what little I have seen and heard of them, I think I made the right choice there)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:17:45 2022 No.17987818 >>17987271 if he is a faggot and you dont deny you are gay, does that mean you are basically hitting on him right now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:19:55 2022 No.17987951 >>17987818 i might be gay but i still have standards

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:27:08 2022 No.17988403 >>17981546 Troons are "lesbians" you retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:30:22 2022 No.17988598 All of them

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 03:31:45 2022 No.17988673 File: 179 KB, 850x1209, sample-dc618df2d65fd12336d7d1b8be707811.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate Apex.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:00:55 2022 No.17990200 >>17986743 Drama, everything feels too soft and eventless

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Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:10:33 2022 No.17990784

>>17969374
Dropped HoloEN since they hardly stream anymore, and when they do it's the same games every time, and the general feel of the stream is the same every time.
Picked up NijiEN in its place, at least they do different things, especially when it comes to non-gaming streams.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:13:49 2022 No.17990994 >>17990444 God why can’t there be more non-general threads where ppl can shit on nijiEN girls and their cuck simps. I have a rage boner that just won’t go away

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:31:57 2022 No.17992101 >>17990994 don't care holokek

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:36:55 2022 No.17992376 >>17990444 i like how the include evan in the niji EN

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:41:20 2022 No.17992615 >>17982331 Does Pomu have Discord sex with her members? Is there an archive?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:44:58 2022 No.17992834 >>17986743 Rather than spicing their streams up, they could actually develop some uh, skills related to streaming and entertaining people, and end up like Pekora or any average JP holo. But nope, that's too hard apparently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:48:19 2022 No.17993033 >>17986376 Israel? That's fucking hilarious. Imagine if Mori did that with Connor I would probably have the time of my life on this board with the cuckposting

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 04:50:33 2022 No.17993181 >>17969374 Nina, too much Luxiem stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 05:02:46 2022 No.17993848 >>17977603 Then what are you doing here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 05:03:47 2022 No.17993907 >>17981546 You know female vtubers browse /vt/ right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 05:25:10 2022 No.17995089 >>17993907 they are retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 05:28:39 2022 No.17995278 File: 105 KB, 549x554, 1628238556222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wasn't really recent, but I used to watch a good amount of her before I got sick of shitty zoomer memes like Bogos Binted

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 05:32:08 2022 No.17995472
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I used to be a huge Haachamafag, but the hiatuses killed a lot of my interest + made me drop learning Japanese. I still turn on her karaokes to listen to in the background & watch all of her rare English streams/collabs, but I've accepted that learning Japanese just isn't worth it to me & I'll never really enjoy her/any Japanese chuuba due to that, so I just watch decent sized Western indies & small corpos

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 05:42:51 2022 No.17996108 >>17995089 Gura might be dumb and stinky and cunny..

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 06:50:12 2022 No.17999773 >>17986743 nothing. vtubing is very limiting

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 07:00:35 2022 No.18000406 >>17969374 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 07:31:12 2022 No.18001764 >>17974929 HAHA HAHAHAHAHA How's my Selen impression?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 07:34:07 2022 No.18001888 >>17995472 I was taking learning the language so seriously, until it hit me that the entire language is basically useless to me. I'm not even interested in going to Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:19:09 2022 No.18003555 File: 465 KB, 900x900, 1644092635754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So many ex takodachies me included . What happened?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:26:55 2022 No.18003832 File: 158 KB, 340x304, D.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17972126 This desu. When she debuted I watched her constantly but after 6 months it feels like the same recycled content. She needs to spice up her streams more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:29:29 2022 No.18003929 File: 46 KB, 256x256, 1642908456003.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18003832 >She needs to spice up her streams more. By streaming less apex.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:36:28 2022 No.18004169

>>18001888
I visited right before Covid was an issue & it was great, but outside of a small town I visited & not being able to talk to locals in bars I didn't feel like I missed much by not speaking the language. I had a chuuni fantasy for awhile of living over there for work for a few years, but my field pays so much more in the U.S. that it'd be a retarded idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:41:08 2022 No.18004311 >>17982061 Because if you shit on a manga, you shit on the author and publishing company. If you shit on them, you ruin any chance of a future sponsor. Burning bridges is not a good thing for a company.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:44:38 2022 No.18004405 >>18003555 The veil was lifted

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:44:42 2022 No.18004408 >>17970358 Based. Also is there an easier way to find 2views? Im not really sure where to look

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:45:24 2022 No.18004434 >>17977603 Been feeling like this lately. Comes full circle I guess.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:47:53 2022 No.18004512
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>>18004169
Weebs often forget that for japanese living there is hell. Beautiful clean but hell. You need to have the right mindset and most foreigners don't so you end up being alone and unable to communicate with anyone unless you collect group of foreign friends and start some shitty podcast or whatever so you can cope together
>>18004408
On twitch watch at least one and see Recommended channels. That's the main source for new 2views for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:50:00 2022 No.18004593 File: 2 KB, 65x34, ssa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18004408 Plus to >>18004512 Just click on Vtuber tag and dive to the bottom.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:54:00 2022 No.18004747

>>18004512
Yeah, that's what I figured. I read a blog from someone in my field who lived over there for a while and lived the dream (became a salaryman, married a Japanese woman/had kids with her, etc) and he talked about the overall business environment there and it just seemed so far removed from who I am & what I want in life that it was impossible to justify for me when combined with how I'd be setting myself back financially by so much. I also wouldn't want to do the whole "move to foreign country and only befriend expats" thing which seems to be what almost every western expat there ends up doing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 08:59:31 2022 No.18004941 >>18004747 >overall business environment there That's the whole another topic to discuss which I don't want to. There's no surprise that they use terms like "sha-chiku" which means being a corporate slave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 09:03:12 2022 No.18005040 >>17969457 This.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 09:31:47 2022 No.18005755 >>17986743 introduce rivalry

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 09:46:02 2022 No.18006134

Damn i make fun of nijiEN fans sometimes but im actually sorry for the nijibros in the thread going through the major cucking going on right now with your oshi and the luxfags. I had a feeling it would happen and it was the main reason I never got into nijiEN girls, so you guys are definitely stronger than me for dealing with it at all. Honestly I completely dropped holoEN partially due to lux’s success and the recent holostars pushing that basically guarantees holostarsEN will be a thing soon and I don’t want to be around for when the cucking starts to take place there lol

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 09:55:28 2022 No.18006356

A lot of past takos here, I'm still giving Ina a second chance because it seems like she's trying to get herself together with her comeback stream.
Althought they're all probably empty promises, along with completely no GFE nor ASMR ever planned in the future.
What are your reasons for completely dropping Ina?

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 10:17:23 2022 No.18006968

>>18006356
>What are your reasons for completely dropping Ina?
It wasn't like immediate or a list of things I don't like although I could probably name some. It's just I have noticed that watching Ina wasn't fun anymore more like a snooze fest and not really comfy just cloyingly. Also the more I watched her the more I started to realize that Ina doesn't really want to spend that much time talking with chat. Not so many zatsudans and no SCP reading at all. And no other variety besides drawing stream and those are much rare now. I guess she's not a really good talker which is why she like to tell the same jokes over and over to cope the mood.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:00:51 2022 No.18007800

>>18006134
If it's going to be the same as StarsJP they're not going to interact at all except for one particular woman people unironically hate. Even Stars talents themselves prefer collabing with outside talents or indies because it's just more freedom, and on the off-chance there is a collab they'll draw the line just like with Matsuri. StarsJP don't even tell pervy jokes.

>>18006356
I watched her when I was starting out with this whole vtuber thing. She's comfy and great as something you listen in the background.
Then you realize when compared to others she's stagnant, and never going to change. That's the opposite of an idol experience where you watch someone improve or fulfill their dreams. As time went the interest just fade away.
Not that she's a bad streamer, mind you, but when you're not an idol and just a streamer, there are countless others who're more worthwhile.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:22:09 2022 No.18008207

>>18006356
She regressed
I got into her because of Inacademy and drawing streams. She stopped doing Inacademy because dealing with noobs was too grating, and is doing way less drawing streams from now on.

Before, she wanted to improve her streams and her faults, but nowadays she will put out anything and knows her established fans will defend whatever she does with tooth and nail.

She's extremely bad at taking criticism and just implying she should change how she does things makes her salty and whip out the "Dont' like it? Don't watch it". Then she complains about how her fans have created a hugbox around her and doesn't gets criticism anymore, and after directly asking for it, decided to implement absolutely none of the feedback a few months ago.

Also I feel she hates spending time with her audience. Bad agents will use this for shitposting but the past 6 or so months have been absolutely barren. People would be happy with just hearing her ramble while she works at whatever, but if you complain about it she'll tell you to not make her the center of your life and touch grass. Fair enough, But is that what you wanna tell people after 2 weeks of absence? The menhera waifufags will not care and the regular people will just think "lol wtf is this bitch's problem".

I feel we're heading towards an uneventful year full of mediocre gaming streams and graduation due to her not enjoying it anymore, and I honestly don't care much anymore about what she does.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:33:17 2022 No.18008478

>>18003555
Guilty gear stream, i don't hate her for it but the reason i ever liked her is long gone
Also the nepotism hire in council, sana just isn't a good streamer, ina forced a girl who isn't an entertainer to join the company despite many other better choices, just so she can get her friend into the company

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:37:25 2022 No.18008579 >>17972126 I still watch her but if I watch her DMC3 playthrough and hate it, i'll stop watching. It's impossible to fuck streaming that game up. Even Gura who I don't like much made those streams fun (minus that one stream)

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:41:21 2022 No.18008686

>>18003929
It's not even Apex because I can skip those streams and watch Resident Evil, the various single player FPS games she played, Spyro, and so on. Her speech becomes too formulaic. It was refreshing at first but now I've already heard this over many other streams regardless of the games content. A lot of people enjoy it, it's just not for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:43:30 2022 No.18008729 >>18004405 What happened?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:43:58 2022 No.18008745 >>18008478 They don't even stream together like NijiEN does and their nepotism in strong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:45:56 2022 No.18008801 >>18008686 >Her speech becomes too formulaic. It was refreshing at first but now I've already heard this over many other streams regardless of the games content I feel the same desu but she's still feeling the niche for me by streaming certain games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:47:10 2022 No.18008834 >>18008745 Sana just doesn't streams anymore. She plays 12 hours of Pokemon once a week and fucks off. Which is a shame because I liked her debut and was interested in her video editing skills.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:49:04 2022 No.18008884

>>17972126
To me, Selen is someone that can't feel good about something without needing to put someone else beneath her, which is pretty bitchy of a move even if it comes from insecurities that she might have. I stopped watching once I realized she was just that kind of person.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:51:10 2022 No.18008935

>>18008745
>>18008834
I honestly don't believe /vt/'s rrat on anything and just take them as some funny spices to my 4chin lurking. Except this.
Her situation's just strange. Her debut was great and I was looking forward to her skills as an artist (and her video edits) as a great addition to HoloEN. Then it just came tumbling down and I can't even defend people from defaming her.
She has so much to her and yet she keeps limiting herself. Weirdly so in areas that overlap with Ina's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:51:19 2022 No.18008943 >>18006356 That AOE damage she did on the guilty gear stream made me despise other Takos and don't want to watch Ina with them anymore, I mean both the trash talkers and the ones who say she shouldn't apologize fuck all of em

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:52:56 2022 No.18008982 File: 66 KB, 256x256, 1630555055204.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18008801 >Sir? >Sir no please >AAAAAAAAAAAAA Female H2O delirious

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:54:22 2022 No.18009015 >>18008943 oh woaw what happened in the guilty gear stream?

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Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:57:19 2022 No.18009098

>>18008834
I mean at any point when either of them two is streaming other could just join the call like Mori tends to do. Besides that one collab I've never seen them properly interacting with each other.
>>18008982
Please don't make me cringe again because I can hear her voice in my head to well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 11:59:03 2022 No.18009138 >>18009015 Some faggots were making fun of Calli being shit , Ina got mad and accidentally shat on everyone watching 2 anime girls playing a video game on Friday night.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:01:31 2022 No.18009216 >>18009138 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciCa6Y-E-7s it was a lot less harsh than what I was expecting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:01:33 2022 No.18009218 >>18009138 I'd say it was definitely Mori's influence but Ina herself got too cocky because she got lost in unusual for her space.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:04:34 2022 No.18009289

>>18006356
Didn't drop her fully, but my interest did go down when I realized how business-minded she treats Hololive. It's like she's not allowing herself to fully embrace Hololive as a part of her life, always keeping fans at a comfortable distance, being very matter-of-fact, treating streaming as time management and work, always downplaying herself and not accepting the spotlight when a bit of ego along with her natural skill would be dazzling.
There's been a surge of people asking for ASMR lately. Creeps aside, I think it's because after 2 years Ina hasn't really gotten closer to chat and they want her to throw them a bone. Gura has opened up and shown a lot of affection and Kiara's main draw is her relationship with her viewers, I'm not saying Ina needs to go full-in on parasocial, but it really feels like Ina's bond points cap at 1

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:14:10 2022 No.18009524 >>18004512 Well there's a reason why so many people use anime as an escapism from the hells and pressures of society. I would never live in Japan for a living because it's incredibly expensive and very isolating. But i'd have no issue with visiting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:14:20 2022 No.18009528 >>18006356 >What are your reasons for completely dropping Ina? The "comfiness" excuse can only last so long before people realize that she's actually just boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:19:55 2022 No.18009658 >>18009528 this. i still watch her because of convenient time zones, but fauna does comfy streams much better. at this point the "ina adds nothing to hololive"-pasta came true by accident

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:22:38 2022 No.18009728 >>17986743 Playing more actual games would help. Pomu's MGR stream was some of the best streams she's ever done.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:23:58 2022 No.18009763

>>18008686
>Her speech becomes too formulaic.
Yeah I feel you. Compared to other chuubas her behavior was a breath of fresh air but after months of streams it becomes borderline unbearable to listen to at times. I thought her constant laughing were just nervous ticks that would gradually disintegrate as she became more comfortable with streaming but it remains the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:25:44 2022 No.18009806 >>18009763 I think her laugh is just a cope mechanic. Dunno for what but it's either this or some shizo thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:30:15 2022 No.18009922 File: 45 KB, 426x412, 1638187438057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17969374

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:31:05 2022 No.18009940 >>17986743 If only Japan would slightly lax their copyright laws but nope, gotta deal with the bullshit "ask the company first before they allow you to stream their game" that you have to do so you dont accidentally fuck your company over

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:31:44 2022 No.18009961 >>17975777 >>17990444 >>17990994 >watch nijisanji, a company known for being co-ed >complain when males get introduced You should've stuck to holo, but why didn't you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:32:40 2022 No.18009982 >>17990444 >mfw only follow Millie because of her past life >still see a little bit of it from time to time I sometimes miss it bros

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:35:31 2022 No.18010062 >>18009961 I saw it coming but it doesn't mean I have to like it. Lazulight/Obsydia and to an extent Ethyria's chemistry were amazing and Luxiem ruined that. They're not even entertaining, just boring fujobait.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:35:31 2022 No.18010061 >>18009658 Yeah, Fauna just does what Ina has been doing only better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:36:03 2022 No.18010071 >>18009216 It's not outrage worthy at all but i can see why that annoyed people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:38:23 2022 No.18010130 >>17969374 I watch only my oshi, i don't give a single fuck about anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:38:47 2022 No.18010141 >>18010071 The funny part is that no one actually got upset about that when it happened. When she apologized people didn't even really know what she was talking about. Only after she apologized people actually started making threads about it.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:39:39 2022 No.18010168
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>>17969374
Personally Mori and Kiara, I was never a huge Takamori fan but they both really changed their streaming style and content after Kiara went back to the Fatherland, which also made it a bit more difficult to watch her streams here in Australia. Hearing Kiara talk about the rrats in her walls and her wacky experiences as a pretty white girl in Japan was a big part of her appeal to me, and her mewling to her cats for hours on end just doesn't cut it for me.
Mori just stopped streaming the content I liked, simple as.
More generally I've gone off Niji and HoloEN (and never got into JP in the first place) as a whole simply because I'm picky about whom I watch and the way both have really embraced impromptu collabs where any of the girls (or guys) can show up at any time doesn't do it for me. The energy of both groups changed completely once they added Luxiem and Council and every Minecraft stream had the potential to be a collab. I really liked those pseudo-zatsudan streams where another girl showing up was a big, special thing.
Now I enjoy small corpos like Tsunderia where the girls get along with each other in collabs but stick to their own lanes 90% of the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:44:23 2022 No.18010292 >>18010168 >pretty

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:45:02 2022 No.18010307

>>17969374
Every single Holo. Cheering for Idols requires them to be underdogs that need to grow and develop, but now they have everything handed to them immediately and it makes their content seem very synthetic.

I stopped caring about all the fake lesbian humor and forced 'TeeTee' shit. Every other company you can think of has better interactions with one another and plays more varied games. More people realising that they're vapid is why literally every EN company started inclining more than usual.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:46:51 2022 No.18010363

>>18003555
I loved her in the first half a year after her debut. Many great gaming, art and watchalong streams and comfy zatsudans with the rare hype karaoke. I mean, just looking at watchalongs alone we went from Alien, Terminator and other such classics to fucking Blue Period for god knows how long now. I feel like Ina is kinda the reverse to how a regular holo evolves after debut - she went all out at the start with a lot of interesting and entertaining stuff, then gradually became more and more "safe".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:47:41 2022 No.18010388 >>18010062 Would you say that it's less to do with them being male and more to do with the fact that they're just not very good at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:47:52 2022 No.18010392 >>18010307 They still have underdogs, but yeah I get you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:49:13 2022 No.18010438 >>18010388 No. Adding the other gender always changed the dynamic of same-sex groups.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:50:57 2022 No.18010499

>>18010388
Hard to tell since I'm not a woman. The men are good in collabs, but Vox is terrible solo with the amount of pandering he does. I have other preferences for male streamers. Either being fairly proficient at a small set of games I enjoy, or are utterly crass.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:51:24 2022 No.18010509

To be honest, I'm only a takodachi now because I still have the plushie I ordered waiting to be shipped.
Ina's content has definitely stagnated since the time I was passionate enough to buy that plushie. I just hope the break somehow gives her a realization of some kind or another.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:51:25 2022 No.18010510

>>18010141
She made a big deal out of it, apologized, and after replaying the clip people realized "oh, she thinks we're a bunch of losers"
It was honestly mostly a matter of disastrous PR and damage control. Why directly point towards the only point of a stream where you said something slightly edgy? However, I think the main problem is that she never demonstrated otherwise. She never showed her fans she loves them or appreciates them, and has only gone colder with time, which made it just stick more. There was no counter argument, nothing you could point towards to and show she doesn't really thinks so, because truth be told, she probably does.

Whenever Gura gets a messsage like "Gura is cringe" she says something like "where do you think YOU are" which is more or less the same kind of joke. However, then she still shows up to a member stream afterwards and sings, open up and even cries, so even if she does the same kind of jokes on the regular(instead of a one of thing mind you), the fans don't mind because she makes up for it and everyone can see she does appreciate the support

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:51:32 2022 No.18010516 >>18009982 She's with her friends now mostly so just be happy for her.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:51:52 2022 No.18010526
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>>17977603
This but for movies, I don't know if it's me getting older but I feel like most of new anime is shit. Why watch 4 episodes of a seasonal when I could rewatch Patlabor 2?

>>17982061
They do, but they do only about FoTM like Kimetsu no Yaiba, either because they or their audience are mostly normies

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:52:17 2022 No.18010544

>>18010307
I stopped caring about the yuribait shit once I was introduced to Tomoe and Kana.
Karuta being a complete disaster lesbian and crushing on the staff member was great too.
Gundou flexing her body count in a very early stream was also great
Everything else is just fanservice shit that just doesn't work when it's actual people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:53:05 2022 No.18010565 >>18010526 >when I could rewatch Patlabor 2? because rewatching stuff is not satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:53:58 2022 No.18010597 >>18010363 >such classics to fucking Blue Period I did cancel my membership before this. What's so special about it anyway?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:55:55 2022 No.18010650 >>18010510 >Gura gets a messsage like "Gura is cringe" she says something like "where do you think YOU are Kek

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:56:00 2022 No.18010655

>>18003555
Nothing like Hollow Knight week for a long time, worse and worse games in general, no drawing streams, too much Pokemon. At least that's how it is for me.

>>17986743
That's a sign of success. 4chan audience was here early, and it losing interest correlates with the "mass public" gaining interest in them

>>18010597
Nothing, she just likes it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:56:49 2022 No.18010676 >>18010597 I's an anime about artists. >>18010363 Yeah, I also dropped her membership because of the whole Blue Period fiasco. It's just come on how much fucking longer do we need to drag this.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:57:59 2022 No.18010711

>>18010597
We've been watching the same anime watchalong for 5 months. No other member content other than the photoshoot. Ina even dislikes the anime and told people to go read the manga instead but is still finishing it.

5 months of nothing, NOTHING, but a bad anime adaptation she doesn't enjoys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 12:58:35 2022 No.18010735 >>17977603 Based and same. The magic is gone. I return to where I started.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:00:29 2022 No.18010797

>>18010510
>She never showed her fans she loves them or appreciates them, and has only gone colder with time, which made it just stick more.
She does a lot I think. She makes some of the best merch around, tries to come up with new stuff like her MV. The thing is that most people want more instead of new, and Ina seems to be more interested in producing new. That comes at the cost of her regular stuff: her streams during the period where she made the MV, and even after, are not the best.
She also talks all the time about how she likes her fan and appreciates the support. I don't really get how you think that she never shows love or appreciation. Ina has always been the target of bait because she's not as loud as other girls, first it was boring, now it's doesn't love her fan.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:01:04 2022 No.18010812

>>18010499
I haven't watched much of Vox but from what I saw, it feels like the classic "I'm british so I automatically equal sexy" vibes to be honest.
And since i'm British as well, it does almost nothing for me at all. I've not seen him in collabs so maybe it's better there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:01:34 2022 No.18010830 >>18010565 For you maybe, though I don't understand why. When rewatching something (something good at least) you always notice things that you missed at first. And "new" stuff like seasonals are often lots of recycled ideas

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:01:53 2022 No.18010843 >>18010655 >>18010676 >>18010711 Oh so it's just a meme and I missed nothing of worth then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:03:58 2022 No.18010904 >>18010843 It's a manga that she likes but didn't even watch the anime adaptation before so it feels a bit hollow. I also wish we got other movies watchalong, those were good times. I'd take Terminator 2 over any new anime

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:05:41 2022 No.18010954 >>18010904 She has talked about the other stuff that she wants to do a watchalong for, but all I can see from these talks after such a long time is just empty promises.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:07:05 2022 No.18010983 >>18010954 She has talked about that since her debut, there's not even a watchalong a month on average. That's one of the things I don't like about her, she can never straight out says "I won't do this"

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:07:48 2022 No.18011010

>>18006356
I had a 12 month long membership and I probably would have cancelled earlier if I realized that I wasn't a fan anymore and just liked the idea of being a fan.
After a while I wanted to try out something new and slowly started to discover others, during my last month of membership I didn't even watch her at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:08:00 2022 No.18011017 >>18010363 Remember when we watched Color out of Space? That was kino

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:09:40 2022 No.18011062 >>18011017 I liked it when she did cheesy Lovecraft-related stuff, sadly the last one was that dogshit game "The Shore" or whatever

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:10:28 2022 No.18011083 >>18011010 Who else did you find that is similar to Ina, I'm also trying to find someone to move on to

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:10:40 2022 No.18011088

I haven't touched HoloEN since NijiEN came out and showed them how collabs and conversations between functioning people actually works.

It's like watching The Creatures back in the day. Just a bunch of friends doing stupid bullshit together. Ike challenged Selen to get permissions for the South Park RPGs and she got them in 15 minutes. Rosemi made a fucking Detective VN stream last night with massive chat participation. Pomu is playing the entire Metal Gear series. Elira is doing Xenoblade. Enna and Millie have the best off-collabs. Vox is autistically playing OSRS.

Why the FUCK would I watch Calli host a Jump King tournament, watch Ina hate an anime I'm enjoying, or all of Council NOT stream?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:12:48 2022 No.18011155 >>18011088 >showed them how collabs and conversations between functioning people actually works. Honestly that's what puts me off NijiEN. I like their game choices but if the streamer isn't autistic then it isn't really fun.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:12:49 2022 No.18011157
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I don't know if there was actual evidence of her being a dude or not, but she seemed to struggle for a bit to actually stream and none of the shit she played ever interested me.
Now I think she moved to Twitch.
Waste of a really cute model.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:13:50 2022 No.18011183 >>18011157 >she

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:14:01 2022 No.18011194 >>18011157 I mean you can hear a tranny voice even in debut.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:14:31 2022 No.18011200 >>18011088 You could make a more general point by saying that HoloEN are in a weird spot where they are not really idols as they don't have stuff like HoloJP does, and on the other hand are not even good "regular streamers". HoloJP are better at both

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:14:59 2022 No.18011209 >>17981752 I have this sentiment too, I would rather sc some 2view asmr whore that works really hard licking that mic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:15:11 2022 No.18011216 >>18011157 >I don't know if there was actual evidence of her being a dude or not His voice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:16:39 2022 No.18011252 >>18011194 >>18011216 I felt like I could hear it but I guess I didn't want to believe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:17:06 2022 No.18011261 >>18010797 >Ina has always been the target of bait because she's not as loud as other girls, mean girls love a target that won't fight back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:17:10 2022 No.18011265 >>18011157 I honestly don't care if they're a dude or not, i just want someone that's entertaining

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:17:12 2022 No.18011267

>>18011017
I honestly don't know why she stopped those movie watchalongs. I keep getting stuck on watchalongs as an example because it is literally the lowest effort content that can still be highly entertaining for both sides yet she just gave up entirely when she arguably had the best choices for it in Hololive.

Some of the things she said in this comeback stream was just straight weird too, that emphasis on "we're FRIENDS right?" came of like she was genuinely afraid to have any connection to her fans. I fucking bet she was digging through conversations about her and did NOT like how some were reacting to her not streaming.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:19:36 2022 No.18011326

>>18011088
This was also one of the reasons why I started watching NijiEN, however, there are some members that are just too manipulative for me.
There's also an issue where they just have too many collabs in a week, where almost half of their schedules are always collabs.
Sometimes you just want to chill with one person chatting and not have to pick up a heavy conversation you know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:20:22 2022 No.18011345 >>18011157 >Artemis wasn’t my oshi but the VR streams were neat. Hearing someone nearly die after frantically fucking around in Blade and Sorcery is worth a chuckle.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:20:54 2022 No.18011363

>>18010797
Of course she doesn't hates people that like her and her content. That would be retarded for a content creator. Merch is content, she's happy to work on it because she exercises her creative muscles

She simply doesn't wants to spend time with the fans, for her it's a waste of time and effort, and thinks they are all wasting their time watching her and vtubers. Whenever something involves wasting a bit of time or going the distance, she doesn't do it. Whenever a fan says something like "when are you coming back to X" or "when are you going to do Y" the answer is silence. Actions speak louder than words, and all of hers say that she thinks having such a large and devoted fanbase that asks of some of her effort back is a pain in the ass and would rather it be smaller and less demanding and devoted. She appreciates the support, but not the fans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:21:10 2022 No.18011377 >>18011326 >Sometimes you just want to chill with one person chatting and not have to pick up a heavy conversation you know? This filtered so many chuubas for me both corpo and indie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:22:15 2022 No.18011408 File: 281 KB, 1084x1637, 1607732942646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17969374 I rarely watch one of her watch alongs, but other than that, meh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:24:08 2022 No.18011457 >>18011363 My thoughts exactly. I honestly doesn't understand why is she even joined Holo knowing that her roommate has enough money making jobs. Same with Sana. What a waste of slots. Never pick an artist for a streamer job I guess.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:24:51 2022 No.18011478

>>18011363
>She simply doesn't wants to spend time with the fans, for her it's a waste of time and effort, and thinks they are all wasting their time watching her and vtubers.
Meds

>Whenever something involves wasting a bit of time or going the distance, she doesn't do it.
Such as what? She does a lot of zatsudan, which are exactly that

>Whenever a fan says something like "when are you coming back to X" or "when are you going to do Y" the answer is silence.
That's a different issue, altogether. I don't know why but she never says "negative" things. I think it's stupid and wish she would change, but that's how she is

>Actions speak louder than words, and all of hers say that she thinks having such a large and devoted fanbase that asks of some of her effort back is a pain in the ass and would rather it be smaller and less demanding and devoted. She appreciates the support, but not the fans.
She seems to put more effort than most other Holos, the thing is that her effort is not in the form of "streaming hours". How many Holos made themselves a MV? How many Holos designed merch that's way closer to what fans actually want than the usual merch? She does all of that. If you don't like it t's fine, but don't pretend it's nothing

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:25:58 2022 No.18011501

>>18011326
Yeah, Niji EN has gotten very collab heavy since Luxiem. Not sure when it'll slow down. They need to stay out of open calls because part of the fun of watching a stream is the back and forth between chat and the streamer. In a large collab the chat doesn't get to interact with the stream at the rate of a solo stream. I believe they need a minimum of 2/3 solo streams to satisfy fans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:29:34 2022 No.18011591 >>17969374 It's been 1 stream in two weeks for Ina. I'm going to give her a few more streams to prove herself. But if she really keeps going back to the formulaic shit she keeps doing, well, then I'll just have to go as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:29:44 2022 No.18011599 >>17977603 This, this is the correct path to take.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:31:00 2022 No.18011632 >>18011083 In what aspect do you want them to be similar to Ina? Also I moved away to get something new not to get the same.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:32:51 2022 No.18011676

>>18011478
>How many Holos made themselves a MV? How many Holos designed merch that's way closer to what fans actually want than the usual merch
Not to shit on her, this is actually why she's much better as an independent content creator than a Holo. Her main content can be those Inacademy in 30 minutes bits as a series, then she can streams on special occasions. This is while still doing her side jobs too, and build her reputation as an artist without all this secrecy between herself and her roommate.
Holo has a specific kind of market, and she's not fulfilling the market's demands. More or less the same case with Sana.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:33:13 2022 No.18011683

>>18010797
Like >>18009289 and >>18011267 point out, it was her first stream back after a technical outage, not even a long break, but she still took a chunk of her comeback out to say "don't miss me."
Like, there was no controversies caused by fans while she was away, none of the other members were harassed with "where is Ina," takodachis were as invisible as she was during her break, so there was nothing to prompt that statement. That and she also talked about how great the break was for her, it was an incredibly cold return.
I just can't stay interested in someone who treats their audience's affection like it's a consequence of their streaming, not the objective.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:33:27 2022 No.18011690 >>18011632 Understandable, for me I just want someone calming to listen to while I do my work, but I can see how others would want more exciting content.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:35:09 2022 No.18011728

>>18011457
>why is she even joined Holo knowing that her roommate has enough money making jobs
She's a content creator. Holo is an agency full of high tier content creators and connections. She went from being a regular freelance artist drawing low tier gacha characters at that time, to speaking directly with her idols in the industry. It saved her several years

>She simply doesn't wants to spend time with the fans, for her it's a waste of time and effort, and thinks they are all wasting their time watching her and vtubers.
>Meds
This is the only point I'm gonna insist on. You know why she constantly asks her audience "How do you even have time to watch me? How do you even have time to come to every single stream?" she truly means it. She uses her time well and balances several contracts and well paying jobs at the same time. To her, the people watching her play some videogame badly are genuinely wasting their precious time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:35:13 2022 No.18011730 >>18011690 Have you tried Fauna?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:37:35 2022 No.18011779 >>18011690 I'm not >>18011632 but here you go: https://www.twitch.tv/ninaninin https://www.twitch.tv/lumituber https://www.twitch.tv/minyaseptember

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:38:02 2022 No.18011790 >>17982360 >fauna the whore played 999, bet she's played ghost trick and shit she doesn't flaunt her power level, but she's got good taste she's based in my book

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:39:33 2022 No.18011835 >>18011730 Yes, I do indeed watch Fauna as well, but definitely while having to tread with caution. Although she is humorous and calming, she's definitely one of those that also manipulate her audience, just in a different way.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:39:36 2022 No.18011836

>>18011501
>They need to stay out of open calls because part of the fun of watching a stream is the back and forth between chat and the streamer.
Yeah, even if they're having fun with it, that doesn't justify discarding the most essential part of being a streamer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:40:34 2022 No.18011852 >>18011779 Thanks for the suggestions anon, I'll check them out once I can.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:40:40 2022 No.18011855 >>17969374 Haven't watched Ame in a while, I'm a Gura boy now. Lately I've been watching a lot of Fauna and Pomu.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:40:55 2022 No.18011861

>>18011676
>this is actually why she's much better as an independent content creator than a Holo
She went into Hololive precisely because she wanted to meet other people, which seems to have worked

>Holo has a specific kind of market, and she's not fulfilling the market's demands
What do you use to judge that? Most of her fanbase is happy with the way she does things. If you're not it's fine, but saying she doesn't belong in Hololive while Hololive seems to be fine with her is weird

>>18011683
Ina has always been like that, one of her first drawing streams she said that she wasn't here to be a therapist for people, but still read messages from people like that. She can say whatever she wants, but she looks and acts like she missed her fans, which is all that matters

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:43:14 2022 No.18011901

>>18011728
>You know why she constantly asks her audience "How do you even have time to watch me? How do you even have time to come to every single stream?" she truly means it
She almost never does that. She also herself watches Holos, often multiple streams while working. If you know her other career, go see her drawings and look for one with a desk in it. She also spends a lot of time playing gachas. She may look like a time management queen or something, but she's not

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:51:05 2022 No.18012086 Why doesn't Ina read superchats or do SC streams?

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:51:05 2022 No.18012085

>>18011728
>She's a content creator. Holo is an agency full of high tier content creators and connections
Holo is an entertainment company specialized on idol culture and streaming mostly games and after these two content creation. Ina is bad at 2 of 3.

>She went from being a regular freelance artist drawing low tier gacha characters at that time, to speaking directly with her idols in the industry. It saved her several years
She had good connections before and let's be honest she's best at making promo art but not creating characters. I'd like to be wrong here when she finally release a 6* operator while Sana's roommate already has two.

>To her, the people watching her play some videogame badly are genuinely wasting their precious time.
Like she's wasting her on things she doesn't like? Like streaming and drawing beginner level art for noobs? She's a giant weeb and otaku herself. She also wasting time on this shit and state of her body's health is absolute garbage so she can't really enjoy any physical activities. I call that a hypocrisy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:52:20 2022 No.18012110 >>18012085 Also the light novel is getting an anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:52:23 2022 No.18012114 >>18011835 NTA but i know exactly what you mean

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:53:26 2022 No.18012146 >>18012086 She doesn't feel to.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:53:32 2022 No.18012150

>>18011861
I get that early days in when this was all overwhelming she would establish boundaries, but a year later and she still has to cut off her core audience like that? Thats just shitting on the fanbase that stayed dedicated to her for so long and is showing she's not interested in any personal growth.
Like, can she just let us be happy that she's back for 5 minutes? Did we need 3 big downer speeches about why you should feel ashamed for giving a shit?

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 13:57:29 2022 No.18012251

>>18012150
>but a year later and she still has to cut off her core audience like that?
What makes you think it's her core audience?

>Like, can she just let us be happy that she's back for 5 minutes? Did we need 3 big downer speeches about why you should feel ashamed for giving a shit?
I was happy, to me it sounded like tsundere talk that can't accept she missed us

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:01:09 2022 No.18012361 >>18012110 What?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:02:21 2022 No.18012401 >>18012251 >to me it sounded like tsundere talk Anon......

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:04:25 2022 No.18012464 >>18012251 Holy takopium

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Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:06:17 2022 No.18012524

>>18011861
>She went into Hololive precisely because she wanted to meet other people, which seems to have worked
It worked, and that made her stagnant. What content of hers improve these past few months? What has she contributed to HoloEN? Does her streams get better? She plays better games? She gives better members content?
>inb4 MVs, arts, and merch
Then that supports my statement further that she's better as an independent content creator. You don't need to be a Holo for that. Heck, even Noripro's Red Oni does those and still produce great content and collabs.

Be honest, even her initial reason to meet more people cease to be. She's not even collabing with some of her friends or new people anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:06:35 2022 No.18012537 >>18012086 Waste of time.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:08:15 2022 No.18012592

>>18012401
>>18012464
>>18012504
We'll see in the next few weeks/months if Ina changes anything. I think it won't happen, and what she said will be used against her by shitposters that don't watch her like the "Guilty gear incident"

>>18012524
>What content of hers improve these past few months?
The MV is pretty recent

>What has she contributed to HoloEN? Does her streams get better? She plays better games? She gives better members content?
You could apply that to all of the other EN members

>Then that supports my statement further that she's better as an independent content creator. You don't need to be a Holo for that. Heck, even Noripro's Red Oni does those and still produce great content and collabs.
You don't "need" to be a Holos for anything, your argument doesn't make sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:08:27 2022 No.18012597 >>18012251 >it sounded like tsundere talk that can't accept she missed us Anon, you're gonna hurt yourself. Make sure you warm up before you reach like that.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:09:18 2022 No.18012624

>>18012251
>What makes you think it's her core audience
Probably something to do with the fact she's addressing the people who missed her? A fucking rando isn't exactly going to miss a girl they started watching the same stream.
>Tsundere
It stops being tsundere the minute she goes on a 10 minute talk going from not wanting people to get attached to her and leading to wishing she wouldn't be stuck in friendships after they've outstayed their welcome.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:12:17 2022 No.18012722

>>18012597
I'm not going to listen to people that never watched her, sorry

>>18012624
>Probably something to do with the fact she's addressing the people who missed her? A fucking rando isn't exactly going to miss a girl they started watching the same stream.
There's missing someone and being unable to function without someone, she was clearly addressing the second kind

>It stops being tsundere the minute she goes on a 10 minute talk going from not wanting people to get attached to her and leading to wishing she wouldn't be stuck in friendships after they've outstayed their welcome.
Ina going on a weird tangent because of past experiences with people that didn't go well? No, that can't be possible

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:13:31 2022 No.18012768 >>18012361 The Hero King, Reincarnate to Master the Art of War

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:13:35 2022 No.18012772

>>18012624
>10 minute talk going from not wanting people to get attached to her
Wow is later Ina actually trying to alienate her audience that much? That sounds so bad for Holo image. Like I get it you're asexual introvert that doesn't know how to communicate with a human being but come one this is too much already. This is an AI territory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:14:36 2022 No.18012797 >>18012768 What? What are you quoting here? I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:15:44 2022 No.18012830 >>18012772 Deadbrap deflection

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:16:21 2022 No.18012863

>>18012592
>You could apply that to all of the other EN members
Whoa that cope. I'm not hating Ina or anything truly, but that's just hilarious.
>You don't "need" to be a Holos for anything, your argument doesn't make sense.
If Holo doesn't have standards people wouldn't complain about her, friend.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:16:54 2022 No.18012883

>>18012722
I go back to what I said before, she came out with that spiel about people not being to live without her unprovoked. Short holiday, no controversies in the fanbase, a lot of people understanding her situation in general.

I'll give you the tangent thing, she's always done that, but I stand by the fact that pushing her audience away is the reason why it's hard to stay as interested in being a fan of hers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:17:34 2022 No.18012909 This thread is exactly why you should never get mad about whatever the fuck a vtuber does. In a month or two your oshi won't even be your oshi, so why care?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:17:50 2022 No.18012915 >>18012883 All takos are autistic losers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:18:09 2022 No.18012925 >>18012909 This thread is just showing how EN attracted casual fans that contribute nothing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:18:37 2022 No.18012939 >>17969374 Used to watch a lot of Risu then lost track of her schedule and haven't found it yet

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:18:42 2022 No.18012943 >>18012883 >she came out with that spiel about people not being to live without her unprovoked Probably read some weird comment by people saying they were going to kill themselves or that they were depressed since she wasn't here

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:19:21 2022 No.18012980 >>18012909 Where do you think you are lmao Though some I feel are genuine feedbacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:21:21 2022 No.18013051 >>18012909 Most aren't mentally ill enough to have an oshi to begin with.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:22:16 2022 No.18013092

I have a 15 month Ina membership and while i appreciate the few illustrations she makes for us there just not enough content for members.
I think the only thing i want out of her is more collabs with JP, she says she couldn't keep up with their japanese but she's already way better than more than half of EN.
Maybe some day we'll get a takopa with Luna.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:23:00 2022 No.18013119 >>18012980 This thread is full of genuine feedback The other Ina thread is full of bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:23:32 2022 No.18013141 >>18012909 Wanting someone to improve isn't a bad thing, there's no need to be a yesman to everything someone does. Although that yesman syndrome seems to plague every single vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:24:01 2022 No.18013163 >>18013092 Marine collab literally never ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:26:55 2022 No.18013263 >>18013141 The thing about that is that there is not a good place to give them constructive criticism without being drowned by a horde of drones on an anti witch hunt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:27:16 2022 No.18013276 >>18013163 You got Umisea...

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:29:12 2022 No.18013348

>>18013263
This is one of the only places you're allowed to do so without getting banned or kicked.
Even in Ina's comment section, she has outright admitted to banning people without a second look, so it's definitely not a place she accepts criticism in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:29:33 2022 No.18013372 >>18013276 Those deadpan angry "Gura Gura" still haunt my dreams

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:32:03 2022 No.18013454

>>18013092
I'll be honest, if you understand JP and have free time at this time of the day, you might as well just watch JP chuubas kek
>>18013263
What give you the impression they're even going to listen, much less consider the criticisms? Though on a positive note, if a chuuba and her fanbase is open to that and has a dedicated place for feedbacks, they're already a dozen points over other chuubas. In EN, Ame and Kiara come to mind, because they read YT comments and react accordingly (in different flavours of course).

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:33:49 2022 No.18013525

>>18008686
>Her speech becomes too formulaic
That's something I noticed pretty quickly when I watched her, that and how most of her gaming streams were basically her slamming her head against the wall until one or the other broke made watching her much less fun in the long run.
>>18008982
It's amazing how after not having watched her for over 3 or so months I can still hear this in her voice...
>>18010307
>I stopped caring about all the fake lesbian humor and forced 'TeeTee' shit.
I used to love seeing that shit but it pretty quickly became tiring when I realized most did it just to get some extra attention and money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:35:01 2022 No.18013582 >>18013454 Kiara improved so much it's unbelievable that she used to be the ORANGE WOMAN at one point. She probably hates this place for being a den of antis, but from wherever she took feedback it did her tons of good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:36:58 2022 No.18013654 >>18013348 Takos go around telling people to get thicker skin while their oshi herself is like this

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:36:58 2022 No.18013655

>>18013263
It's more about getting thoughts out into the wider sphere. If enough people agree to it then those impressions catch on, then it's grounds for legitimate feedback down the line, no Vtuber should respond to a single persons criticism from here otherwise you get the Mori drama.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:37:49 2022 No.18013694 >>18011326 Pomu had a great 5 and a half hour zatsudan yesterday

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:38:04 2022 No.18013704 >>18013582 Kiara really has not changed all that much. You just dont get influenced as hard anymore because the board is no longer painted orange.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:39:32 2022 No.18013759 >>18012909 I jumped to Niji a while ago but Kiara keeps bringing me back.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:42:32 2022 No.18013884

>>18011326
That's something I noticed a long time ago, that hyper focus and borderline desperation to keep an unity image and wanting to be a "family" translated to constantly collabing all the time with little solo time in between, which, sure, was fun and all but at some point it just made it lose the "special" or "novelty" factor and just made it annoying to watch if someone you didn't like joined or if you just wanted to watch that particular member.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:43:33 2022 No.18013919 >>18013704 The more /vt/ hated her, the more I grow to love Kiara. It's like that cat with a fucked legs and tail. Her deformity just calls me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:44:42 2022 No.18013972 >>18013582 Kiara didn't change much though, a lot of her negatives she dropped in the first few months, the only big difference since then is she's less worried about the popularity thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:52:00 2022 No.18014285 vtubers are like marvel movies for schizo weeb antisocials who claim to hate marvel movies. New vtuber debuts, consume new vtuber, move on to next vtuber product

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 14:53:23 2022 No.18014355

>>18012980
>>18013119
I'm honestly surprised at how relatively civil this thread has been so far.
>>18013141
True, though there are some vtubers who are more open to criticism and know how to take it well, sadly even those tend to have issues finding it because those comments get drowned by the yesmen.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:00:42 2022 No.18014721 >>18010526 My strategy is to binge watch the best two shows out of each season, and it works. For example, I'm catching up on ousama ranking and heike monogatari for last season.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:03:46 2022 No.18014861 >>18011157 >her >she start the ritual, lads

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:08:18 2022 No.18015077 >>18014861 You're a bit late pal.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:09:41 2022 No.18015147

>>18010526
>They do, but they do only about FoTM like Kimetsu no Yaiba, either because they or their audience are mostly normies
Outside shounenfags, the anime audience (even on /a/ for most of the last decade) is obsessed with seasonal garbage that they'll never think about again 2 weeks after the series is done airing unless a movie/sequel comes out. You're not going to get a big name vtuber talking sbout their love for 80's era Gundam, Macross, or whatever other historically important series

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:10:00 2022 No.18015163 >>18015077 (Checked) damnit!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:14:16 2022 No.18015390 >>17969374 ame, but i do still watch her if i can, i just can watch gura now

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:14:56 2022 No.18015422

>>18015147
I'm not asking for "historically important series", I'm asking for people to have a personality that's not mindless consumerism. I realize that this is too much to ask of Hololive, because Hololive is exactly about mindless consumerism, but it is how it is

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:14:59 2022 No.18015425 My favorites Towa and Suisei, I've been a member for almost 2 years but now I don't have time to watch them live or even archives, I just put their utawakus as background when I do stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:19:15 2022 No.18015621 >>18012624 >It stops being tsundere the minute she goes on a 10 minute talk going from not wanting people to get attached to her Ok,what was her hiatus return stream? I don't even watch her but that sounds based.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:20:15 2022 No.18015674 >>18015425 That sounds normal. You can't stay fully interested in something for too long, but you still like them enough to have them as your BGM. Every fan eventually grows out of the things he loves with time.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 15:51:35 2022 No.18017076

>>17981986
>I guess the honeymoon phase is over.
I think this is a pretty good way to put it and I feel the same way but I think it's also partly disillusionment. With more and more vtubers coming out as whores that have no respect for their audiences, I think people are also just starting to realise that they really aren't as different from regular ethots as they initially thought.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:03:19 2022 No.18017551 >>17985943 The near constant (fake) laughing is why I also can't usually watch full streams/VODs in one sitting unless the game is something I really like. She's better in collabs when there's some bantering going on

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:06:17 2022 No.18017682

>>18015422
>I'm asking for people to have a personality that's not mindless consumerism.
Doesn't Marine have that? I don't watch her though.
The only Holo I know who go into unapologetic manga rant is only technically a Holo. Only Roberu does that with his oneeshota rants and oneeshota doujin recommendations.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:09:59 2022 No.18017849

>>18017682
>Doesn't Marine have that? I don't watch her though.
Most Holos probably have that but they don't show it

>The only Holo I know who go into unapologetic manga rant is only technically a Holo. Only Roberu does that with his oneeshota rants and oneeshota doujin recommendations.
Fair but I'd like something a bit better than porn

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:10:09 2022 No.18017859 I completely dropped stars for Luxiem. I feel bad sometimes for them, but Luxiem panders to me so hard, it's not even funny. Vox doesn't half ass with the fanservice, and I don't need to walk in eggshells when using chat or twitter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:25:25 2022 No.18018468 >>18013348 >Even in Ina's comment section, she has outright admitted to banning people without a second look first i've heard of this, timestamp?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:36:35 2022 No.18018917 >>17977603 I dropped anime for vtubers more like I went through all the good anime. anime was never dropped, it just sucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:40:51 2022 No.18019094 Dropped EN to support my boy, Sam Hyde

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:50:09 2022 No.18019488 NijiEN basically replaced when I used to watch Hana.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 16:51:32 2022 No.18019543 >>18018468 It's been happening since Ina's HL2 series, you can start your search there

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 17:06:31 2022 No.18020154 >>18019543 Nah, it's on you to provide tangible evidence for your claims. I've watched a decent amount of Ina and have never heard her "outright admit to banning people without a second look".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 17:21:47 2022 No.18020772 >>18020154 No you have not, if you've watched Ina you would've known she was ruthless with the banhammer. Don't lie just to get bait-worthy material, you're clearly trying to egg me on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 17:44:13 2022 No.18021760 >>18020772 I've been a trinityfag since their debut you dumb motherfucker but it's not like I watch every one of her streams. Post timestamps or shut your mouth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:17:25 2022 No.18023024 >>17969374 I dropped the entirety of Tsunderia. Three gens in, they just don't have that spark, no unique creative energy, no hype. A lot of the talent would be better off on their own or in other companies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:21:08 2022 No.18023169 >>18008745 >They don't even stream together Sana would actually have to stream for that to happen

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:23:22 2022 No.18023263 >>17969374 >More ENVtubers in this thread than JPvtubers hmm

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:29:29 2022 No.18023487 File: 49 KB, 644x508, 1635080581802.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18023263 We don't understand the shit they do

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:36:17 2022 No.18023758 >>18015425 Does it really count if you're watching them less because of time constraints? I thought this thread was more about not liking the streets content or personality

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:37:12 2022 No.18023797 >>17975777 Sensible and Based.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:39:11 2022 No.18023875 And here I was thinking that Takos were the most loyal and sensible of the Myth fanbases.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:45:27 2022 No.18024144 File: 39 KB, 1920x544, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They are boring and monotonous.

Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:48:42 2022 No.18024293

I used to watch Gura and Calli as much as I physically could.

But then Gura's humor became kinda same-y and she interacts with the game similar to Markiplier and I realised I was too old her her target audience.

I don't know why I stopped watching Calli. I couldn't care less about the Connor shit because I'm not a retard, but I think I just got burned out by them.

I now almost exclusively watch Elira and Rosemi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 18:50:45 2022 No.18024377 >>17975777 based and triple

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 19:46:03 2022 No.18026683 >>18023875 Ngl, I'm actually a bit surprised at how many Takos there are itt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 19:46:31 2022 No.18026696 File: 109 KB, 1440x933, vegetasmirk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17969374 >>17969427

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 19:48:05 2022 No.18026751 >>18008884 this but with Mori

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 9 19:52:40 2022 No.18026934 >>17977603 are all the replies for real? just yesterday I was thinking how vtubers completely replaced anime for me and i don't even want to look back. anime is shit and im not a newfag either. have been watching vtubers for 3 years now.

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