/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why Mori Calliope is the worst hololive member

>talks about alcohol nonstop to the point where it's one of the only things she sounds genuinely interested in
>applied to hololive as a joke, knowing nothing about vtubers or streaming and only because her friend Milkyqueen was applying too and showed her it, taking her spot in the process
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ?t=2397
>used to heavily bait for superchats in her early days, interrupting collabs to thank red scs "BIG UPS AKASUPA"
>says hololive only takes up 5% of her actual time
https://youtu.be/lBkuqt-xigY
>continuously trying to change hololive by attempting collabs with and mentioning anime youtubers and random men
>always late to collabs and never sets up properly
>according to kiara has overslept multiple collabs, causing them to be cancelled or rescheduled
>barely talked during 2 hour clubhouse 51 collab with Kiara, to the point where Kiara had to use the weather deck to get her to talk at all
>made nothing but grunts and 1-3 word replies during shadowverse collab with kiara
>straight up said "no" when kiara asked if she had seen her new MV
https://youtu.be/nvZcIGnCSrs?t=12222
>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"
https://streamable.com/t2985s
>didn't properly setup for lethal league with ina, played and talked with fans while ina sat and watched
>acted like a bitch once the punishments game for puyo puyo tetris came up, refused to do any of them
>spoils outfits on twitter for first smol collab, does nothing for the jeopardy rounds and slams her keyboard for it
>blabs about alcohol before even introducing herself during a collab with Reine, an Indonesian who isn't allowed to drink
https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=342
https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=394
>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea
>makes myth wait almost half an hour in the ender dragon fight collab because she got lost looking for wood because she didn't prepare, then makes them lose diamond armor because she jumped into the void in the end
https://youtu.be/BwL9-tqLF3I?t=4641
>didn't call in for Ame's first birthday, called in at the very last minute for her second birthday sounding drunk with a shitty rap
https://youtu.be/tMwKQniur0k
>constantly talks to her collab partners like they're mentally challenged children
>simps over Rikka on and off stream nonstop, they collab on Super Bunny Man and Mori can barely hold a convo in Japanese, forcing Rikka to use his terrible English
>completely ruins highly anticipated first EN meme review with Coco by being nothing but her "dorky rapper" character instead of making any good conversation or jokes, to the point where Coco asks "are you okay? you're acting like a crackhead" and "is she always like this?" to 75k viewers
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=2435
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=1121
>woke gura up early on a day she planned to stream, wastes everyones time because she only then learned the game they were gonna play is local only, makes them switch to ANOTHER local only game, didn't install the final proper game between the time elapsed switching previous games, then makes sleepy Gura wait another half hour only for their gameplay to be fucked by seconds long delay, then finally settling on Phasmophobia, disables comments afterwards
https://youtu.be/sbo8zS8otzQ
>caused 6 month anniversary Don't Starve myth collab to be delayed by 30 mins
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1370508896150818817
>fell asleep on stream during very first myth Minecraft collab
https://youtu.be/NS3_sNTwIRw?t=10427
>told Gura during a collab that someone said her "booty stank" while working at a restaurant
https://youtu.be/WhM27pQZ_2E

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
The Trash Taste drama gets its own section, as it is the longest running problem with Mori and the sole reason this post exists

>Mori collabs with Trash Taste
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ
https://youtu.be/h5QspNrKphM
>guy from TT, Connor, says on Ironmouse's stream that people in hololive are popular not because of their talent but because of the brand
https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4
>time passes, Mori mentions TT a significant amount the last few months
>a longtime member in Moris member stream says she shouldn't associate with them
https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults her members and lies that Connor personally apologised to every holoEN member
https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>"we speak to each other quite a bit, um, as friends", laughing nervously after
>someone asks Kiara about this, Kiara says she isn't in contact with anyone from Trash Taste
https://streamable.com/5a8uq2
>Mori then donates 50 subs to Connor on her new Twitch account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she won't read superchats anymore without management reading them first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>deadbeats in her comment section are upset about all of this
>everyone moves on
>days later she suddenly replies to and compliments a 6 day old Twitter post from a dedicated anti account of an MSpaint edit of her getting fucked by Connor, while her fans watch crying, insinuating her fans are cucks
http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>Redditors notice this and post it to the hololive subreddit
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png
>she gets downvoted and they shame her for her actions
>someone asks why she did it, she admits she's drunk
https://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg
>deletes everything, apologises on twitter, announces break but then says she's high on lean on her corporate, public twitter account, and then tries to damage control by saying she didn't know what it meant
https://web.archive.org/web/20220124193835/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>later, begins collabing with holo members again but it's painfully clear she isn't interested and is faking her enthusiasm, the entire terraria stream is an example
https://youtu.be/8ZiNmfUCEt4
>goes out of her way to put "with my FRIENDS" on her Terraria collab, and again "ft FRIENDS" in the title of Surgeon Simulator collab, when she's never done so
https://files.catbox.moe/minblk.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/u1ufzu.jpeg
>still won't stop mentioning TT
https://youtu.be/Zm_Q5yLdgas

In conclusion, Calliope Mori is a terrible influence on hololive and should graduate immediately. She has proven time and time again that she does not care about her position as a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

anybody who replies to this thread after me is a nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

OBSESSED
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[Anonymous No.]

I'm a nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

Mori you just finished a stream go to bed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
holobased

[Anonymous No.]

All factual and correct points, but unfortunately won't change anything. Cuckbeats are beyond saving at this point. They're in to deep, literally ans financially. They've sunk too much money into someone who was quick to friendzone them

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831799
Proudly, holo is eh, I do love moomers though and gura isn't bad at her job like some of the holos (mori included) so she gets my respect as well. I'll take pomu over all of em every day of the week and she isn't even my oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
Somebody once told me the Mori is gonna toll me
I ain't the richest simp in the text
She was looking kind of dumb with her finger and her thumb
In the shape of an "L" on her forehead

Well, I can't stop cumming, and we don't stop cumming
Feed to the brink and my wallet is nuthin
Didn't make sense not to play pretend
Your cock gets hard but your card won't work
So much to jerk, so much to wank
So what's wrong with being a cuckbeat
You'll never know if you don't simp(C-c-cuckold)
You'll never shine without Dono

Hey now, you're a cuckbet
Get your simp on, lose pay
Hey now, you're a dead cuck
Get that simp on, lost pay
(All your donos are sold)
Only mighty simps will be chose

It's a cool heart, and they say it gets colder
You're bundled up now, wait 'til you get loner
But the meteor whales beg to differ
Judging by the swole in the donation supas
The hate we skate is getting pretty thin
The water's getting warm so you might as well sin
My world is sad, how 'bout yours?
That's the way I like it and I'll never get scored

Hey now, you're an cuckbeat
Get your simp on, lose pay
Hey now, you're a dead cuck
Get that simp on, lost pay
(All your donos are sold)
Only mighty simps will be chose

[Anonymous No.]

this is impressively comprehensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>17832041

Go for the moon [?] (C-c-cuckodl, C-c-cuckold)
Go for the moon [?] (W-w-whale, W-w-Whale)
Go for the moon [?]
Go for the moon [?]

Hey now, you're cuckbeat
Get your simp on, lose pay
Hey now, you're a deadcuck
Get that simp on, lost pay
(All your donos are sold)
Only might donos....

Somebody once asked, "Could I spare some change perhaps?
I need to get myself away from disgrace"
I said, "Yep, what a concept
I could use a little dono myself and we could all use a little strange"

Well, I can't stop cumming, and we don't stop cumming
Feed to the brink and my wallet is nuthin
Didn't make sense not to play pretend
Your cock gets hard but your card won't work
So much to jerk, so much to wank
So what's wrong with being a cuckbeat
You'll never know if you don't simp(C-c-cuckold)
You'll never shine without Dono

Hey now, you're an cuckbeat
Get your simp on, lose pay
Hey now, you're a dead cuck
Get that simp on, lost pay
(All your donos are sold)
Only mighty simps will be chose

(And all those donos are sold)
Only mighty simps will get chose

[Anonymous No.]

Based OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
>>17832041
>>17832081
absolutely based

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831799
kill yourself, cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17832041
>>17832081
Somebody get TTS in the house

[Anonymous No.]

Nice compilation. To bad the janny is a cuckbeat and this thread will get deleted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>Why Mori Calliope is the worst hololive member
Because she's boring to watch and her character sounds too forced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17832219
Nijiniggers have no right to call others cucks

[Anonymous No.]

based

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
Hilariously based. Cuckbeats trying to derail the thread to tribalfaggotry are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

BASED
Mori is one of the few actually hateable people in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
holy KEK
i was hating on mori as sort of a half-joking thing (saying shit like "you're not a true deadbeat if you hate mori" and shit) but i think i can actually see a reason why to actually hate her.
i think she should just graduate at this point, she doesn't even care about hololive anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831790
>insinuating her fans are cucks
Based. They are. They deserved to get cucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773

[Anonymous No.]

This is very informative, unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834020
Got anymore Mori ryona?

[Anonymous No.]

If her stream of needy streamer is any indication of her constant checking of /vt, I hope she sees this and reflects upon her lax attitude to her genmates.
Even if she comes up with the reasoning of "I don't have to try to be friends on camera to be friends irl and prepared for Gigguk collab just cause I want kadokawa"
I don't give a shit about Mori nor her fans, I just want to believe that hololive was created for socially inept autistic people to help them get a job. And if Mori is purposefully doing things to ruin this place for her retarded wigger mentality of corpo=evil, I hope she fails and moves on.

Division between deadbeats and the rest is so fucking stupid. There are fucking shit flinging antis on both sides creating this fake animosity.

Q's MV literally had Calli and Gura beat up their fanbases.
"Only time I wanna see you down is on ya knees, at my side". She always was a motivational speaker and doesn't want her fans to be down in the dumps. But 'on your knees' part is weird and puts her high on top.
How is this in any way appropriate relationship with the fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the recap!
HoloEN will be a much better place without her! Hope her roommate resurgence it's a sign she's graduating

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834109
It's certainly a good deal better than many other posts, at least this one's backed heavily by streams and streamables for each major point.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still going to jack it to her avatar. Anyone have a compilation of anything that sounds like moaning from her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
So this is what EN fans put up with? Why don't you just watch twitch streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834277
Just watch any stream, she bitches and moans all the time

[Anonymous No.]

The following post is a copypasta taken from the archives. The poster does not necessarily believe all of it is accurate
---
>Makes Gura extremely uncomfortable during their first collab together
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Drags the entire generation into a series of extremely boring Overcooked 2 where she just mumbles to herself the whole time forcing collab partners to pick up the slack, despite being the one to start it
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Promises Kiara that they'd do weekly Minecraft streams where they could learn the game together, collabed MC exactly once one one month later and never again
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spends half an hour thanking superchats during her first Minecraft collab with Gura
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doxxes herself and then obnoxiously fake screams into the mic the entirety of the Secret Neighbor collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can't even be bothered to set up the game correctly for the first big Among Us collabs, is a massive anchor for the team and a wet blanket during meetings
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Was in a separate Discord channel thanking superchats during her second Among Us collab while her JP senpais all introduced themselves
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Played Lethal League with deadbeats while Ina literally stood there and watched, in what was supposed to be a Mori Ina collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Starts sulking when the punishment game comes up in Puyo Puyo Tetris, refuses to take part and brings the mood down
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>According to Kiara, has overslept multiple collabs, forcing them to be delayed or rescheduled
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spoils the outfits for the Walfee outfit reveal collab, doesn't even try during the Jeopardy rounds and just types gibberish
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely uninterested during her Clubhouse 51 stream with Kiara, Kiara even has to pull out the fucking weather deck to try and get any sort of response from Mori
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spent 2 hours saying absolutely nothing but random autism grunts, as Kiara desperately tries to carry a conversation during their Shadowverse collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can barely speak two words of Japanese during her Super Bunnyman stream with Rikka, forcing him to use English instead
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely shits the bed in the highly anticipated Coco Meme Review collab, exercising her usual "awkward sperg spamming stock phrases like naruhodo instead of holding an actual conversation" shtick to its fullest as Coco becomes more and more desperate to get ANY kind of reaction out of her and eventually asks 75k live viewers "is she always like this?"
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>made Gura wake up early on a day she had a stream later in the day
>replaced their game because it only has local play with a game that only has local play
>didn't install the game anywhere between the game being changed and the actual collab
>made a sleepy Gura wait 20 minutes only to have her experience about 0.5 to 2 second lag
>finally settle on Phasmophobia after all this struggling
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Collabed with anituber trash that is responsible for most of the casual fan flood from which casual doxfags and cucks who want male collabs can be traced to
>Way, way more prepared and enthusiastic for this than ANY of the collabs listed above
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Shows up to a literal who vtuber's birthday but never did a call in for her senpais
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Once again ruins the entire mood by throwing a tantrum over punishment games in UNO, refusing to do them or doing them half-assed, and arbitrarily changing the results to her liking
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834179
OP here. One of the main reasons I wrote it all is in hopes it would eventually reach Mori, as it is 100% certain she checks here, at least occasionally. I also want to educate those uninformed. I am sick of her bringing drama into hololive and I want her to stop trying to change it into her own thing. It's to the point where there's so much negativity about her that I get frustrated when she collabs with my oshi and end up not watching the stream simply because she's in it. She goes against everything hololive is and it'd be the best for everyone if she left to focus on her other interests. Her spot could've and should've gone to someone with actual passion for vtubing, their fans, and the idol culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
Based OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
You know, Mori was my favorite of the bunch when Myth debuted. And this really BASED post kinda makes me feel dumb for that, now.
Good job making it, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834531
Funny that you chose Twappi's pic, cause she had a fuckup with a male voice in her stream and lying that it was a member of the staff. She was "saved" by the loyal kenzoku that didn't leave her. Maybe deadbeats are repeating the same thing?
If only Calli didn't have an agenda of burning hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>17832081
>>17832041
Just posting this here for Boomer Reaper.
People stop caring in like 6 months.
Emotions are gone in 2 weeks.
Whatever happened, telling people to fuck off will resolve in within that timeframe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17832041
>>17832081
Someone get Yung Skelly on the phone. A new banger just dropped

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
It really hurts but it's truth. It's not even 5%. It's 0.05

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834179
All this has been posted for months, if she comes here she's already seen and ignored it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834304
Mori appeals to the same audience as twitch streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

So literally none of this would have happened if they picked Milky instead of Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
That's a lot of text. But big ups! Or that's rough, my guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
Its amazing how Kiara can still put up with Mori's shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835061
Yes, might as well bring Milky as Holomen and kick the backstabbing bitch out, because clearly Milky is more passionate about Holo than Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835109
That's the thing though. I don't think there's been any interaction between the 2 for weeks now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834531
same. i was really looking forward to the terraria collab with everyone ever since irys played it and LOVED it. I love terraria and i was hoping that if it went well more members would be into it. I saw the title/thumbnail 'with friends' and all of a sudden my heart dropped. It sucked.
Even in my oshi's thread ppl are scared/loathe to even mention mori because of the shitflinging that comes with it
the worst part is that mori doesn't realize she needs to fucking chill for a while
i get why she wants to do so many collabs because it takes pressure off of her, but she's putting that pressure+some on everyone else she's with

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834661
>deadbeats are repeating the same thing
Not at all. First, both situations aren't even comparable. Towa's was in fact a display of shitty idol culture obsessed unicorns being assholes.
The second literally has had multiple threads about how the talent is a disgrace in general and would much rather just stream with her friends instead of being entertaining, which should be a requisite ro enter.
Also, if you notice, most people on reddit, youtube and twitter don't even defend Mori. They defend TT. Just check the last clip of the OP. They don't care about Mori. All they do ia sperg the same moot points
>TT good
>idol culture bad
>mori should do whatever she wants
They never even address the real issue which was her own fault. They don't care about her. They care more about Connor and company before anyone in hololive, and whatever fault in their narrative is to blame on idol culture and trolls, just like Mori.
I'm not even implying the threads here are fulfilling or constructive in any way. Hell, most of this should've died on day two because the joke gets old fast, but nothing in the OP is a lie and she keeps feeding us with her incompetence.
It's amazing how any normal streamer doing this would'ce been instantly cancelled, but the very own hololive brand she despises saved her ass and her roommates career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835147
Probably for the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
based

I will make a video compilation of this on youtube and spread it on every social media

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835147
there is, kiara has a planned collab with mori soon, they are still friends, Kiara knows how Cali is and accepts it, no point holding grudges.

[Anonymous No.]

If Ina could get Sana in HololiveEN, why couldn't Mori bring Milky in as well? Surely Mori has more leverage in the company and Omega than Ina since she's more popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835203
People using 'idol culture' as an excuse is laughable, it's not even applicable in this case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835339
Mori is likely constantly butting heads with management behind the scenes over 'muh idol culture, collabs and boundaries!'.
Ina meanwhile doesn't seem to have those issues. Also, Artist > nonartist apparently, given how much leeway they give to Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>real schizo hour
ye boi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835339
most vtuber that graduated and reincarnated won't even able/want to collab/stream together with their old vtuber friends

>Luna with any Niji
>Polka with Tamaki
>Kson with any Holo
>Millie with any HoloID

so I don't think Milky gonna/can join Holo at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835339
Milky doesn't want hololive. She is dead set on her group

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835109
Kiara is a major saviorfag. she's willing to throw herself under the bus just to make her genmates look better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835388
I see, it might be Hololive being cautious with bringing Mori's friend as it could risk furthering the gap between JP's idol culture and EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835500
I heard her praise others for selflessness more than herself doing anything to prop others

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835551
No way, I actually agree with management this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
Holy shit, you even managed to avoid the roommate shit that makes her look even worse
Based

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

So send her and other holos she streams with some SCs about how bad she is or some shit. Or release another diss track. Either way you make a fool of yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835689
why cuckbeats like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835689
ok cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835702
I don't know. Why are you, cuckbeat? Beaten by cucks. Pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835689
I only support my oshi and not some druggie. Why would go out of my way outside of this board to consume her content. No thanks.

>>17834954
0.05 is till 5% percent though..

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing good about Mori is her capability of organizing events and collabs, with Kiara as a close second.
If only Mori expended her energy more for that and less on all the other shit she does

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835770
I forgot to put % behind 0.05, that's all

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835689
>>17835743
Mori, is that (you)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835832
>her capability of organizing events and collabs
rumao, she killed her own pet project
Do I also need to remind you about the Pokemon tournament? Lethal League? Cuphead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834531
Never would’ve expected ‘Clique’ posting to go straight to her big dumpy head. She must’ve thought Season 2 Mori was untouchable, kek. Fuck that threadreading ass bitch, watch streams you ugly cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
Your post make me tears up anon. Seriously is there anything could be done to save her ?
Im originally hate on Mori after she openly defence Connor. Im shitposting and bullying the Deadbeats in hope that they will try and put some sense into her. Ultimately i never want her to graduated, i just hope she will at least try and fit in with other Holos, and if worst come to worst, i don't want a second Wolf Warrior who will turmoil Hololive from the inside again. I don't want to see Kouhai graduated before Senpais again. Two are too much and too many already. But after seeing Deadbeats throwing try to defence her blindly and reading your post. It clear to me that her and her fans are now beyond saving at this point, and it hurt, i don't want that at all.

Sorry for the long ESL rant, i just want to get it out of my chest after reading OP post.

[Anonymous No.]

>you won't last a w̶e̶e̶k̶,̶ ̶m̶o̶n̶t̶h̶,̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶ second year!
>wigger!
>autist!
>5%!
>TT!
>Connor!
>whore!
>cuck fans!
>lean!
>drugs!
>reported to Japanese police!
>non-idol!
>you don't care!
>j-just graduate already you stupid bitch!
"No."

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835832
LMAO
nice Pokemon tournament

you should kneel to Mumei, she makes her jumpking, tourney, and even terarria collab somewhat watchable

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834179
a lot of people dont seem to know this for some reason, but i think she checks this board at least on occassion.

on every /morig/ thread you'll find that "kawaiiope moririn" copypasta. over the summer, this later became a sound post because a deadbeat super chatted the copypasta to her and she later read it out loud during a super chat reading stream.

deadbeats referenced the phrase "kawaiiope moririn" again in another superchat, this time mori saying "That whole Kawaiiope thing... I've seen it... around. I've seen it in a place or two" and when asked "what do you mean around?" she replies with ""I've seen it around, I've seen it here or there in a place or two. In a place or two. You guys seem to like that."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDA6fSkcph8&t=2809s

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835884
You can't save her. That's why I want her to graduate, she's made up her mind on how to approach Hololive, and her friends support her on that decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835897
pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

I just want her and Ollie fucking gone before they can do any serious damage to the HoloEN space. I used to be a Cuckbeat. Mori was one of my favourite Myth members at the start. But leave it to Americans and American-influenced Twitter/Twitch-dwelling internet clout-chasers (Ollie in included) to want to take something reasonably insular and "pure" like Hololive and open it up to western internet degeneracy.

I'm not a unicorn. I don't give a fuck if Gura's getting gangbanged every night by Tyrone and his friends. I don't care about doxx or roommate shit. I just enjoy the comfy kayfabe anime girls playing games as an escape from how fucking awful, attention-whorish and sex-driven the western internet is these days. And they want to open Hololive up to those people instead of fucking off and doing their own thing. For fuck's sake just join the rest of the anime avatar e-thots in Vshojo if that's what they're after. Nobody is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to engage in Hololive's idol culture.

The more time passes, the more I'm convinced that HoloEN/ID were just a terrible fucking mistake from which we can't ever recover and it sucks. I like a lot of the EN/ID girls we have. But I don't think it's worth Mori or Ollie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835994
Ollie actually likes Hololive and its members. I may not like her that much, but at least she's isn't as subversive and toxic as Mori.
Really, the only problem is the wigger with her disgusting attitude. Kick her out and HoloEN improves tenfold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836068
love hololive sure, but she is thirsty for cock too
still can't forgive she said boner on gartic phone collab with holostar, makes other girls uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834179
How can someone be so wrong about everything...

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>>17836068
I will say that Ollie isn't nearly as offensive to me as Mori is. She's had her yabs, but so has pretty much every one else at some point. And indeed, she doesn't seem nearly as intent on pulling the curtains back and letting all the e-celeb/anituber trash get directly involved with Hololive as Mori is, even if she does interact with them extensively off-stream and seem to want to be in that circle. The occasional mentions of them are where I have issues, but it's definitely not on Mori's level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835979
Kimoi.
TL note: kimoi means "yucky yucky"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835500
>>17835570
Why Orange Woman alway like this ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836114
>she said boner
Oh no

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836114
>>17836133
Also, the anituber/e-celeb cocksucking is just a part of Mori's long list of problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
>all these
BIG UPS MY DUDE!
You know deep down you're obsessed with Mori. Might as well become a deadbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836184
Deadbeat are literally incapable of defending their oshi at this point, so they resort to this pathetic shit everytime. Just like her!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835994
>I just want her and Ollie fucking gone
What's with the hate-boner people on /vt/ have for Ollie though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836227
She's an e-celeb/Vshojo cocksucker like Mori. She's also loud and inappropriate at times. That's about it, nothing comparable to Pink Woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835994
Based as fuck. I watch vtubers for the exact same reason, to escape. I want this pink bitch to stop trying to ruin it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836227
same thing as calli, pushing male thirsting and collabs whith whore vtubers, imagine if ollie was in vshojo, how many sex on stream we would have gotten by now, we already got one even within the holy holo bluble.

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>>17836164
Oh, absolutely. You won't catch me defending her other issues at all. But for me personally the anituber/eceleb faggotry is just the worst and most dangerous. Making other holomems uncomfortable and making herself look like a total retard is one thing - she does it enough and management will slap her down or people will drift away from her, both viewers and holomems - but the subversion of the idol space and trying to get "in" with the kinds of people she wants to associate with (Critikal, TT, etc) could have extremely negative implications for the future of the company.

Maybe the damage would be limited to just EN and JP would remain reasonably comfy for kayfabe shit, but I would hate to see other EN girls forced to deal with those sorts of people. Another concern for me is HolostarsEN if that ever happens. Who are they gonna look to? Experienced western streamer guys. That's already a dangerous prospect, but if Mori's made ins with clout-chasing Twitter cunts... well.

Holostars JP don't bother me. For as much as they're men, yes, they generally heavily lean into and play by the same idol culture as the girls. I don't trust that western male chuubas would be so comfy.

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>>17834121

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>>17836307
Luckily, it's been almost 2 years and the other ENs managed to steer (almost completely, fuck you Cover for putting Kiara in the Shadowverse tournament) clear of this faggotry, it's pretty much limited to Mori. Ame even took precautions to eliminate this scum from her community completely.

[Anonymous No.]

This is like the nijicat pasta but without the funny

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>>17836189
Defenses are only for when an offense has been committed. The times when Mori was in the wrong, she admitted it and her fans didn't make excuses for her.
Now, keep in mind, those times where she was in the wrong are limited. It's a far shorter list than what the schizos here blame her for.
But I am far more offended by the fact that posters like OP and those siding with them were the fastest of MILLIONS of sperm put into their mothers by the john of that day or hour. What is the defense against that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836433
Keep ignoring reality, deadbeat. It will all come crashing down, sooner or later, I can't wait. Cognitive dissonance and sunk cost fallacy can only bring you so far.

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>>17836382
Definitely, and I hope to funking CHRIST it can stay that way. As uninterested and uncaring about roommate shit as I am, I'm not retarded. I know a decent amount - at least enough to know that Gura was once in that position before joining Hololive and it really fucked with her because these people are literally the worst humanity has to offer.

I'm not a cumshart by any stretch, but I like Gura. She seems happy and comfortable with the Hololive setup. I'd hate for her to be forced to start interacting with those sorts of people again as part of her job.

Maybe I'm overthinking things and panicking for no reason, but it really feels like the whole thing is falling apart because one retarded reaper joined the wrong agency for clout only. I'll keep praying this shit never reaches duck or friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836509
>Maybe I'm overthinking things and panicking for no reason
I think so, the other girls haven't shown any interest in this shit. Maybe you'd be right in worrying for Baelz, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836541
Baelz and IRyS I'm very concerned for, yeah. Especially after the chadcast incident and knowing that IRyS really seems to look up to and respect Mori for some fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836433
You almost had a point until the end where you lost me with insults. Ever considered Mori apologises just to save face, to look good? Because I guarantee you that's what she's doing. Because she's told to. Look elsewhere and you'll know 100% she's lying and is not sorry at all.

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I didn't realize my oshi was powerful enough to hypnotize others into doing her destructive bidding. All that on top of being able to: create portals, summon a scythe, see lifespans, call upon beings of the Underworld. Mori really needs a nerf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836433
admitted to save face, but she was never trully sorry, as you can see in the lyrics of her roommate EP and her IRL stream

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>>17836588
Oh nyo. Say every terrible thing about her and it's cool but can't take a little return fire?
Fine. Mori apologizes when she feels she has failed to meet her own standards. It's not management making that call. It's when things like collabs went bad due to her lack of planning or when she make a stupid tweet and then tried to cover it up with an even stupider one. Those were times Mori said "I messed up" and worked to improve. Which often was linked back to the overall problem of her overworking herself and then getting sloppy, but that's an issue to gradually overcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836707
>>>1
Don't break rules and if you are, then at least know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836756
>a little return fire
She mainly shat on her fans, i.e. (you). And she used the most childish, pathetic insults possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836659
Chuunibeats are as deranged as cuckbeats

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836830
They're all cuckbeats, certified by their own oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836830
Cuckbeat? see >>17835743
keep barking, dogs. She's not going anywhere. You lost. :}

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834954
>tells deadbeats they get 5%
>roommate tells her chat they get 10%
imagine still being a deadbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836868
If im a dog then Mori's my bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836929
That's your best? No ambition, try again next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>always late to collabs and never sets up properly
Unless it's with her precious grifter anituber faggots, men in general or people she actually gives a shit about that is; so not her fellow female Holomems at the least.
>>17831790
>"we speak to each other quite a bit, um, as friends", laughing nervously after
Kek. There's such a thing as being a bad liar and then there's being a fucking terrible liar. Everything from her tone of voice to the nervous laughter gives away that it's a lie. She can't even lie properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836961
no one will degrade her or her viewers harder than she does regularly anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care about any of these perfectly valid reasons to hate Mori

I hate her because a great design and concept was fucking wasted on a retarded wigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837084
Like this tweet which will live in infamy
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1476598476180168707

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836874
NO CHANCE she said she gives 10%, does she not learn?

[Anonymous No.]

It's sad to say about a woman in her 20's but it seems like Mori is so inexperienced with friendship that she just genuinely doesn't know what having true friends is like, and thus can't tell the difference between them and more casual friends. That's why she's always so quick to drop things if her "drinking buddies" consider it cringe while talking about how much she loves doing those things with her other friends. To her, they're all the same genuine close friends, and assumes that all those friends would love to know each other. Probably why she gets so defensive and would lie to cover their ass, because that's what a good friend would do.

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>>17831773
>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"
https://streamable.com/t2985s
kek its like straight out of a sitcom

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837290
>good friend
>mori
I'm not sure about that. Time will tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837366
I should say, what she THINKS a good friend does.

[Anonymous No.]

wow what a schizo thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>an Indonesian who isn't allowed to drink
Indonesians can get drunk just fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837712
I thought unmarried women weren't allowed to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837712
I've seen some say reine is muslim or something. It goes against their religion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834020
>>17836377
Can't believe Mori is this hated on /here/ and there's still only two ryona pics. C'mon veetee you can do better.

[Anonymous No.]

another counciltard deflecting

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>>17831773
>>17831790
I kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837763
I only save ryona of girls I like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837712
can they in public? isnt their government like 90% muslim? and the facebook moms cancel every pork eater?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837153
im not gonna link it but the time stamp is 46:10

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>>17831773
>>17831790
keep it coming, we need to purge the ficklebeats

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837763
Writing is my forte, not images.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837712
Not hardcore muslims. If you country is christian you must understand what that means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835884
>save her
let her graduate and let Kadokawa purchase the remains

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837290
>it seems like Mori is so inexperienced with friendship that she just genuinely doesn't know what having true friends is like
She's American, Americans don't have friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837365
I don't even watch either of them but imo you can tell by the tone of her voice that she's joking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837997
and also no empathy

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837743
>>17837869
>>17837809
>>17837731
SEA Islam isn't even close to arab Islam, they might as well be two different things.
At best you, you can't drink in public like in the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838023
I can't tell because she never sounds genuine about anything she talks about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838079
>You can'T drink in public in the US
Really? I thought you guys hated muslims but act just the same

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>>17831773
>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"
I've never watched this due to the potential cringe, how bad is it? I've always given the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's just mori being sarcastic, but her autism didn't get it across properly.
>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea
This is unforgivable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834277
https://streamable.com/nw3s1n

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>>17838114
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county
You can't even buy/sell alcohol in some parts of the US. And a few states ban atheists from holding public office. Amerimuttland is just the middle east but Christian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838158
>Please use headphones for best experience
well mori don't mind if i do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838193
>Amerimuttland is just the middle east but Christian.
>saying this like it's a bad thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838288
>2022
>Still having laws based on religion
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838288
the thing is, school-shotings don't happen in the middle east. Last time someone was stoned to death is also pretty long ago. Last school-shooting was Friday

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>It's fine guys... i swear.... I'm fagdead

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>>17838125
>I've always given the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's just mori being sarcastic, but her autism didn't get it across properly.
I'm pretty sure she was trying to make the joke, but she couldn't make it stick. When Kiara asked what she liked about it, Mori should've just said that she really liked Kiara did with the chrous or that she enjoyed the retro feel.

Mori is autistic and adding Kiara's ESL on top of that means doing these "awkward funny moment" bits is extremely difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838381
what do you mean, its obvious shes lying in her face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838381
Kiara is german and has been speaking english publicly longer than anyone else in hololive, except the ones that have it as their first language.
Can'T really blame ESL on that

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838501
>Can'T really blame ESL on that
sarcasm and germans dont mix

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835994
As much as you want to think about Hololive as this clean and wholesome chungus 100 idle company, Choco used to stream herself in naked Home3D on youtube while she reports about the weather. There's also aki who was very lewd with her home3D as well. You newfriends know nothing

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>>17838466
It's really not obvious at all. It feels like she's trying to make a joke (Kiara's King Cover = Never Gonna Give You Up), but she falls on her face, because she doesn't realize Kiara didn't get the joke, so when Kiara interrogates her about it, instead of realizing she didn't get the joke, Mori doubles down and it makes her look like an idiot. Kiara eventually realizes what Mori was trying to do and changes the subject.

Even with this most charitable reading it makes Mori look like a massive autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838623
Like Americans and education, right?
Jokes aside, most americans are educated and most germans understand sarcasm. Especially kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838501
And yet, she still struggles with forming sentences regularly and has a rather thick accent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838759
you have video proof of it going over her head

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>>17831773
I have no idea how Kiara can put up with her shit and still reach out to her. Even more normie casual viewers are able to tell that she treats Kiara like absolute at this point.
>>17835994
Ollie is just a young naive girl that doesn't know what she's doing. She constantly fucks up but doesn't mean harm and actually cares about hololive and her colleagues.
Mori is a spiteful alcoholic that burned out her dopamine receptors and if she can't have fun she'll make sure nobody else can. The only thing she cares about is her and her clique of expat Japan haters who as it happens don't care about her, just the clout she can provide. She goes out of her way to destroy everything she touches on purpose because she feels slighted by the world for refusing to give her absolutely everything she wants. There is legitimately something wrong with her head and I don't think it can be fixed. She'll probably burn through her money and OD before she reaches 40.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838759
Even the most educated Americans often leave many things to be desired when it comes to have a slightly more involved conversation outside of their field of expertise.

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>>17838808
>Cuckbeat cope
Come on man, have some dignity
>>17838793
She literally struggles forming sentences in german as well. It's more about her being a lightweight when it comes to the brain department and not her english skills.

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>>17838870
>She literally struggles forming sentences in german as well.
Nah, she's fine in German. It's purely a language issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838870
>Struggles to form sentences
We all know why now.

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>>17831773
>>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"
>https://streamable.com/t2985s
These posts are kinda hard to take seriuosly when you keep including this intentionally out of context clip. Mori said it as a part of a dumb joke about how she went to the future and listened to the cover.
https://youtu.be/EpNwZJ5xoj0?t=3029

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838929
Kiara is a wholesome girl, best she does is stumble onto stream after 2 or 3 Seiterl and she can handle her liquor. She's Austrian, you couldn't even tell she's drunk after that little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838946
That just makes her look even more autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838991
Kek, sorry anon. I've gone a little bit light headed off of the LEAN memes. Thought this was about boomer reaper for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838725
No, I don't think that. Apologies if I gave that impression. Of course they're not 100% seiso 100% of the time, and of course there will be breaks in character occasionally. I don't care. I don't mind when they slip, or when things get spicy from time to time, so long as it isn't taken too far or played too seriously.

Like I said, I'm no unicorn. I expect all the girls are getting drilled on the regular and that doesn't bother me. I enjoy the characters and streams as entertainment with some real personality added in. Where I draw the line is threatening to get western eceleb cancer involved. People that think idol culture needs "fixing". It has issues, for damn sure, but so does the absolute depravity, cancel culture and two-faced shitflinging of Twitter clout-chasers.

>>17838854
I think you're right about Ollie. She's definitely nowhere near as damaging as Mori, and she does genuinely seem to WANT to play into the idol culture, she just struggles from time to time and can be a little obnoxious in her energy. You hit the nail on the head with Mori. And to think I used to supa.

[Anonymous No.]

>/vt/ knew that they couldn't change Hololive. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the reaper.
Heaven or Hell.
/vt/ versus Mori Calliope.
DUEL 1.
LETS ROCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838946
how dumb can you be cuckbeat, its right on your face and you still believe the kid level backtrack, she can punch kiara in the face and say she just wanted to kill a fly.. and you would buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

Get fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839078
you cannot seriously be this retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>Words words words words
Can holofags get their own board already? I'm sick of seeing these threads clog the catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837822
Jesus, she knows exactly what she's doing. She's graduating before the year is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838946
Cuckbeat discord gang sounds like Zhang 10 cent army at this point. Notice how they're all focussing on discrediting one point implying it invalidates all other points and ignoring everything else, it's obvious the fucktards are organized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
Very comprehensive, but an effective copypasta should be consolidated into one post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
She's not hired for her moral fiber or social skills. She's hired to provide entertainment and create a profitable venue for Cover. As long as that lasts, she's going to keep blundering on and making money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839237
>It's okay if we keep enabling an unhinged alcoholic with money
Are you guys seriously this retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839288
anon didn't say it's okay fragile retard he only said that nothing will change

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839196
Lmao you're starting to sound like Qtards

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839151
I'm not mori and you're not connor

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839237
Cover is not afraid of getting rid of someone that's hurting their company's image even if that person is bringing in a shitton of money for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17832041
Now do one for teacucks.

[Anonymous No.]

How is this thread up at this hour? Is the Deadmeat jannie gone? Given up? Has he finally forsaken his Oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839388
Calli ain't looking so hot recently guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837997
Excuse me buddy America invented Friends it was a massive hit in the 90s

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839388
Making /vt/ mad isn't gonna ruin anyone's reputation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
Western whores were a mistake. /jp/ always wins baybee

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839388
There's a big difference between sinking a subcontinent's worth of market and having a menhera phase that annoys people outside her core viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839436
Maybe in a bit.
You deadcucks have 69 threads. Thought you deserved it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839619
Matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically hopes she graduates within the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839744
Keeps her thottery private and separate from hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839388
Say what you want, but Coco got run out because of some retard chink apologist up in the executive board because of what happened with China. All of the things Calli does and keeps on doing wont get anywhere near that level of attention and butthurt internally to warrant her removal, the most it will ever do is keep all of you busy shitting yourselves over it.

[Anonymous No.]

what's going on in this useless thread

[Anonymous No.]

She's cool and I love her

[Anonymous No.]

>>17836307
That might sound like fear mongering but it's pretty much true if Mori and Kiara continues to associate with those people. Coco at least knew that if would best for her and Cover to leave if she wanted to associate herself with people outside of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>that last one

Lmao you obsessed idiots can’t even understand basic English. Listen to the conversation again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839809
She really is. I didn't know you could do hard drugs on stream. And get away with it. Especially not on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>straight up said "no" when kiara asked if she had seen her new MV
>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"

I laughed, you really can't win here.

>tell the truth
You monster!
>lie
You liar!

I hadn't seen this video before(mostly because I never gave a fuck about takamori), and I agree with most of the stuff here... but I can't help but connect on an emotional level to the sheer panic of Mori when Kiara started talking about how the song was all about her, entering blabermouth/guilt trip mode for a solid minute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
yet another fucking anti Mori to shit up this board with? really Anon? there's already 11 other fucking threads saying the same fucktarded shit you're saying already. At this point I'm convinced that the afterbirth your mom shat out of her fucking gunt has more value than your life if this is how you get your easy (YOU)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839920
>I laughed, you really can't win here.
It's easy to win. You just need to have a slightest amount of interest in the people around you and actually watch their stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Here comes the cuckbeat apologist squad. You guys should send her more akasupas so she can waste them on emptying blue label in the afternoon while you guys go "Yas queen slay".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839984
Literally THE thread for Mori hate.
Check the post count retard. Compare it to other threads.
We NEED at least 7 though. For how many people hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840032
>a slightest amount of interest in the people around you
Doesn't sound easy to me, and this is an actual interest to me, not a job

I wonder if she "agreed" to Takamori the same way she send her hololive application, without thinking too hard about it. Been there, done that

[Anonymous No.]

>this vtuber interacting with men makes me furious for days and causes me to seek out every past transgression of hers that I can find to compile and archive
>but my hatred has nothing to do with idol culture and I’m a well-adjusted individual

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831790
you forgot mori treated the lean word as a zoomer thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840172

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835339
>>17835487
who is milky?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840215
Another one of Connor's bitches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834661
Towa's situation was caused by her lying and saying the voice was her manager. Not comparable in the least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840163
>without thinking too hard about it
Seems like that is everything she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840172
Where are you people coming from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837828
>Get rid of the ficklebeats

[Anonymous No.]

>check youtube comments
>people unironically defend mori and TT

Heh, I really can't wait for cover to fuck up and give the okay signal for mori to do TTshit.

also

>the clip of connor shitting on hololive was out of context
ayyy

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840172
wrong website normalshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>17831790
Holy based

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840380
Honestly I have no idea how anyond can go to such lengths to defens someone who's not an extremly close friend or direct family.

[Anonymous No.]

>Be SEA schizo
>Sun comes up
>Mori is still a thing
>Put another hole into the shack's wall

[Anonymous No.]

uhmm dedbets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840617
The funniest thing is that she wasn't even referring to the TT podcast

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
You forgot Joey, who is part of the TT crew being an absolute retard about Nene appearing in playboy

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>>17840434
You sound like a bitch. I’ve been on this website longer than you. Having a mental breakdown about a dumb woman doing inconsequential “damage” to her company brand image is for children.

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>>17840172
who are you quoting?

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>>17831799
Mori can fuck off out of Hololive and join Nijisanji, and the rest of us EN fans will be much happier.

[Anonymous No.]

whatd mori do with lui?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840740
Why join nijishits, just join vshitshow and be the slut she always wanted, also I fucking hate the direction of nijien going vshitshow+faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
people are gonna call you a schizo, but i appreciate when people dump the receipts like this. i completely agree that she's the worst holomem and unironically hope she graduates as she's a bad influence on her colleagues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840821
ogey ffag

[Anonymous No.]

>rapper
>bad influence
You really can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

Calliope Mori is corrupting the youth!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>>makes myth wait almost half an hour in the ender dragon fight collab because she got lost looking for wood because she didn't prepare, then makes them lose diamond armor because she jumped into the void in the end
everything else sounds legitimate but this one, this just sounds like "le minecraft shenanigans!"

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>>17840924
I'm going to write my congressman about the dangers of Mori! Someone needs to do something!

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>>17838747
>It feels like she's trying to make a joke
If Mori was joking she would've said something like "yeah it was great I couldn't give it up". You're attributing a non-existent level of subtlety to her humor.

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>>17840945
>being so un interested that you can't give a two shits about preparations
mori summed up in one sentence

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>>17840924
>>17841014
Fellate each other while sending her more akasupas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17834197
Sorry to break it to you but Kiara's roommate is also active

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
Hey guys. My roommate won't exchange my WIC coupons for cash anymore. I can't buy subs for Reaper. What do I do?

[Anonymous No.]

Not exactly what she wanted but wouldn’t this be closer to coco’s “creative freedom” she wanted for everyone on holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17839619
Kneel before her might!

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>>17840494
it's just like nina all over again. i think many anons do it just because they're pathologically contrarian.

[Anonymous No.]

I just don't understand why she doesn't graduate at this point. She clearly doesn't care about Hololive and is brazenly and intentionally ruining it for everyone else by constantly yabbing all over the place. She doesn't seem to understand or care that being a corpo vtuber means she's effectively an idol and is subject to the same expectations and obligations as a real one. There are things you just do not do, including publicly interacting with males and drinking. This is on Cover as well for not laying down the law harder and sooner and not having more explicit, strict contracts. If management did their jobs properly, it would have never gotten anywhere near this bad.

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>>17840945
She literally wasted 30 minutes of everyone's time including the viewers, the collab was planned a month in advance and her genmates prepared all the resources as to not waste everyone's time. She couldn't even gather the easiest resource in the fucking MONTH leading to the collab. Her job involves playing video games and even that is too much effort for Mori.

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>>17841208
you do realise myth is probably the most idol like out of all branches?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841061
Upset?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>"are you okay? you're acting like a crackhead"
I'd never seen this before, holy shit lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841208
>I just don't understand why she doesn't graduate at this point
Money

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841208
>There are things you just do not do, including publicly interacting with males and drinking
Hold on

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841292
>Here's another $100, dad!
t. probably you at some point

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841483
Don't worry I'm sure the next crying skeleton will make her graduate, maybe if you make it a few shade more red

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>>17841408
This is the most fucked-up thing about the whole affair:
If this was an ACTUAL job with metrics and expectations, if she showed up at her cubicle high out of her mind, was more interested in going over to another company to help them with their work, refused to contribute as much as her coworkers, she would be fired. I would be fired, you would be fired.

But she's not and therefore there is no incentive for any kind of change whatsoever.

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>>17838946
I opened that shit completely willing to accept that you're right and you show me Mori frantically trying to cover her ass about obviously having not actually watched it what the fuck. I trusted you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841447
you act like people here actually watch streams

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>>17841208
If those are things you "don't do" then Cover should create actual rules for it. Write a letter to management, as Mori said yoy should if you have a complaint.

>>17841483
Gonna cry? Bet you already are.

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>>17841550
Why do you want to take our Queens LEAN away anon? What did she do to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841550
You SHOULD be fired. Shitposters lately have been terrible at their jobs. Do you even care about causing drama? Already ran the lean shit into the ground to where it's lost all effect.

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>>17841550
Haven't you heard her talk about the shitload of previous jobs she had? And how all coworkers and customers were always horrible?
Knowing what I know now I suspect her attitude is what made people act shitty towards her and I wouldn't be surprised she had that many jobs because she kept getting fired.

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>>17841208
>There are things you just do not do, including publicly interacting with males and drinking
Don't be a fucking retard, Anon. Vtubers aren't idols. Girls from every Hololive branch have interacted with males on stream and they're all perfectly free to drink alcohol as long as they're of legal age. The trouble with Mori is that she's a severe alcoholic and she's close with a male who publically shittalked Hololive which doesn't reflect well on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831822
Nah, making 3 songs about it and bringing it up multiple times on streams would be obsessed

[Anonymous No.]

Don't know why you guys are so mad at her. Mori has consistently taught us very valuable lessons about alcohol abuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841614
Fixed your image for you my guy.

[Anonymous No.]

Cuckbeats in full cope today. Something happened?

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone insists the rest of EN is okay but they all clearly enable her behavior and likely even encourage her off stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841614
She ruined a perfectly good collab with my Oshi. She showed up so audibly irritated at having to be there, barely contributed to the conversation and instead took the chance to vent about her personal issues while my Oshi just sat there, unable to do anything.

Thank fuck IRyS came along and gave Reine a good EN partner to bounce off of. Reine genuinely sounded like she needed a hug after that clusterfuck pink woman put her through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841813
I can't see the difference, am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840617
CoNath is a cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841899
Image compression to reduce file size to a reasonable amount.

[Anonymous No.]

All these threads and posts about Mori. /vt/ must really love her. Big ups, fellow Deadbeats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841884
what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842045
>unironically calling OGbeats fake fans
kekbeats can't catch a break

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to know if I can expect some noncon art of her thanks to this drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840617
Grim

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>>17842082
>41 kilobytes
>unreasonable
Maybe you should stop browsing /vt/ on a Commodore PET

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>>17831773
Most of what is written is mistakes that the EN girls can handle it between themselves

I know a lot hate Mori right now because she did what she did , however someone had to be the first to try , instead you should be grateful because after the backlash it's most likely that the EN girls would think twice before they invite a male to the streams, and that's in my opinion is good for most of us
deadbeats ate it, but I am sure that's not a big deal for most of them however I do sympathies with them

I am not a hardcore fan for Mori but I do like her rap and when she showup to collabs even if you think she is not funny , the other girls would make up for it, collab format is not the same as solo steam , it's entertaining just se the late interaction between them without adding anything more
I didn't like "Q" but will it's better to do it then not doing it ever , i am sure a lot of people liked that song

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>>17842082
Thanks anon chama

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842218
>Willingly wasting space
No. Not when I can bring this Universe back from insanity. Not on my watch.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope they invite more males on tue streams. I want Gura to invite a guy on and they make out on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17835500
more like so insecure she lets someone like mori trample over her

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>>17840945
If you consider that this exact event is something that had been building up for like half a year+ and was supposed to be the crown of EN minecraft before the portal to the JP server opened? To just knock the wind out of the whole thing single-handedly is a fucking DICK move.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope your oshi collabs with Mori and they have a fun time

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>>17842221
>instead you should be grateful because after the backlash it's most likely that the EN girls would think twice before they invite a male to the streams
Kiara's going to do a sponsored collab with a male in the future with KFP's full blessing. This has nothing to do with male collabs in general. It's about Connor specifically and Mori's increasingly erratic behavior.

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>>17842383
Mori hates Kiara tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842434
she likes kiara, just dont put effort and dont sacrifice anything for her, dont think Mori is actualy malicious, just childish, dense and egotistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17840945
>underage block artists hate Mori
I can't say I'm surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>17837822
May 14th 1948

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>>17842427
I think the "male guest" was the YAGOO collab , or i am missing a new announcement ?

I didn't like Conner the moment i saw iron mouse allover him , i think any male partner would have backlash about him if he is really close to the talent. and Conner happen to be for Mori.
so she got stuck between betraying her friend or just let her fans eat it up , and she had chosen , and that's not an easy choice, I would have done the same, however She shouldn't have done it in the first place bug what happened happened.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this another cuckbeat deflection thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842729
This kind of obsession almost seems like it these days, but if retards want to vent, it'd be nice if they just kept it in one thread rather than infect others or fill up the catalog with this nonsense.

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After reading this. I don't think these are as bad as most people actually think they are. Besides the spoiling a costume debut.
>goes out of her way to put "with my FRIENDS" on her Terraria collab, and again "ft FRIENDS" in the title of Surgeon Simulator collab, when she's never done so
I do believe people looking way too into this and I first thought it was just a joke but people actually believe that.
The rest don't seem major if anything just annoying.

I can't wait to be called a cuckbeat now.

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>>17842531
I'm starting to worry about how easy it is for Kiara to fall into an abusive relationship

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842729
By deflecting do you mean accusing people who don't agree with rants by an unmedicated schizo cuckbeats?

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>>17831790
You know the really, really funny thing is the Connor comment about how it takes no talent to be a Holo and get all the fame/money technically has a 1/5 odds of being about Mori herself. It was made long long before hope/council, there is no way he will ever admit who he had in mind and she will have to live with herself wondering if she has been putting herself up to all this pointless fighting for someone who internally, doesn't even respect her anyway. Gee it's almost like there would have been good reason for Mori to just forever distance herself from him if not all TT for that and she was way too dense to do that.

About the comment, the first thing people do to try to rebuttal is a fallacy, a red herring addressing how he kinda did have a good line of thinking to say that - of which, he isn't wrong. After all, Mori is indeed in there and super successful now, off work that had been proven to not be getting her fucking anywhere up to the day she debuted. Still, if you're yourself a Holo, hearing what this guy implied should have been an instant drop for the sake of your own fucking pride and respect for the company she herself works for. It all fed in very quickly into the 'mori doesn't care about hololive' conclusion that became so quickly apparent. Connor had been a vshojo leech anyway, and only has since clamped down way harder around Ironmouse's neck for sucking views/relevance from this scene for himself. He clearly was trying to go to whoever would give him the time of day. It's like Mori fell in love with a sleazy used car salesman and tries desperately to convince people he isn't a scumbag when it's really, really obvious to anyone with half a brain. I really, really hope Connor eventually turns on Mori only to seal up the shit sundae she's cooked up with a neat little bow.

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>>17831773
>>17831790
I cannot argue against any of this

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>>17842849
>Lmao, Cuckbeats
There you go buddy, the wait is over, you can rest now.

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>>17833849
>she doesn't even care about hololive anymore
But she never did, Anon. I think that's one of two core problems people have with her. Firstly she doesn't know, understand or care about Hololive and it's culture and secondly she's desperately trying to change it ever since she debuted. Kind of like how white girls move to Japan, thinking they can brute force their way into a society they never even tried to understand or adapt to. Eventually people will just get tired of your ignorance and call you out.

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>>17831773
I wonder if she actually has a crush on Connor but realises hes got oneitis for the mouse. Truly Mori and cuckbeats are one and the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843048
she also didnt like to stream, but ended up learning to like it after a while, holo is just not her thing she may like some people as a person, but she clearly despises the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842932
It was taken out of context it was some shit about putting random shit on your resume ans if you get into holo with thst then you’ll skyrocket

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831799
Ligma dick nerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841034
Mori is autistic, she can't make a joke properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831981
Do cucks really?

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>>17842980
I was waiting for this very reply.
Because that's why I said cuckbeat. The whole drama and comic is stupid. Especially the guy being depicted as a chad for donating money about this. VT seriously disappointing that most arguments made against her aren't necessarily good. And it just seems to me all of this comes out now not in the past or atleadt nearly as much.

Does anyone feel like that too?

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>>17842687
Mori is a hololive character. What ever she does in her room mate life is another story but she can't help it and tries to leak the success into her room mate's sad life.

[Anonymous No.]

Myth is probably the most tame/idol like out of the branches. Tho myth do do outside collabs which is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831925
Forever cuckzoned

[Anonymous No.]

the absolute state of pettiness

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831799
*cums on you

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
>completely ruins highly anticipated first EN meme review with Coco
Coco genuinely seemed annoyed and disappointed in that collab.
Mori really doesn't give a shit.

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>>17831925
The term of the day is "post purchase rationalization." They aren't mentally ready to admit that they bet on the wrong horse and sunk a bunch of attention and money onto someone really not worthy of that level of devotion/attention. If they have a tough time admitting this even anonymously (albeit, quite a few admit they do have misgivings or dropped her about all that's happened lately), it's not a surprise they just kind of remain mopey and quiet in public, giving room for the loud minority of whiteknight saviorfags to go overboard trying to spin/damage control and pretend nothing's wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to ask. Are the people who post the cuckbeats memes and
Stuff, actually serious and want her to graduate or there just playing up the drama because it's funny?
I talked to a few in a similar thread and just say
> I am a deadbeat but this drama is funny
Or
>I don't really. The memes are hilarious though.

I'm paraphrasing a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843287
how in the absolute fuck does the entire roommate's comment section refuse to adress the difference in numbers
Their effort is amazing

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>>17843235
>Mori is autistic, she can't make a joke properly.
It's always obvious when Mori's joking regardless of whether or not the joke lands. In fact she always goes out of her way to explain when she's joking because she doesn't want people getting it twisted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843489
>/vt/cuck can’t read women
I wonder if this explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842932
>technically has a 1/5 odds of being about Mori herself
Who do you think she vented her insecurities to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843276
Shut the fuck up esl retard cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843548
The cuckbeat thing is funny because it's officially canonized by Mori herself, it's just so wild and such an easy freebie to dunk on them with for fun. It's like shorthand for saying "lololol are you fucking serious dude why the fuck would do you even try to excuse her shit when she did this"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843548
>memes

[Anonymous No.]

cuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuck
have we shown the cuckbeats yet??

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843548
Mori's fine she's just being herself. Im here to laugh specifically at cuckbeats for being cucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842849
The absolutly state of cuckbeat.

Like Mori will fuck on stream one day and they will still say it's nothing majorl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843329
Myth's idolness is likely thanks to Kiara's input, she's using hololive as a means to be the idol she always wanted to be and pushing Myth along. This is likely the reason why Mori and Kiara drifted away from each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843639
I was just asking a question man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843276
You should really just give up trying to understand it. They've been unironically mindbroken and just won't move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843704
Gonna cry cuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843769
I'm gonna cuck you while being cuked and calling you a cuck, cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843666
But isn't everyone here cucks? It's just the problem she replied to the post means she acknowledges it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843548
any defense force is going to attract people to poke fun at it
the only part that still surprises me is the denial in thinking the room mate would be anywhere close to how big Mori is in hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843720
I sincerely doubt she will be getting drilled on stream. That seems like a massive stretch anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843786
Nah, you'll probably just go jack off to blacked porn again

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843753
Is this similar to the people upset at kronii for not using her original model over kemono? It felt like people only care the model not the vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843823
For me its not so much the statement its the fact that her supposed friend had the balls to call Mori a talentless corporate whore like that and she defended him for it. Then when she was getting dogpiled for defending him, he didnt bother defending her. Absolute Chad energy desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843934
That's exactly the case for kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843971
I was told VT isn't a good place to go. But seeing that kronii not using the model thread kind of makes me believe it more and more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843801
Trying to go "well we're all cucks anyway right" is not remotely the same as your oshi highlighting it directly to the world's face. The mask fucking peeled right off right there and people pretending it didn't actually-need to be reminded of it.

If some of the deadbeats weren't socially tactful enough to have been reading these signs of Mori dragging her feet on everything Holo the last year, and still don't get it after her entitled selfish meltdown the past two weeks, then they fucking deserve the relentless cuckbeat mockery. Hell, it's not even fucking enough, I fucking wish Google would decline their SCs and membership payments with an "alright son this is for your own good, let her go" to be the stand in father figures teaching them to have that bit of spine that they clearly never grew, if they can't even stand up to a fucking anime ethot mocking them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
I think this board is really digging the hole trying to put dirt on mori when in fact holoEN or JP have done most of these similar things if not worse.

[Anonymous No.]

Now, this is the definition of rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841746
>making songs about it is obsessed
Like the text-to-speech diss tracks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17838023
Copebeats...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843934
Eh, not exactly. The Kronii thing is more of a coomer issue, the cuckbeat obsession is an entirely different beast that has so many fucking interwoven issues in a huge clusterfuck it's not even worth trying to figure out because once you do you realize that it's fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844066
Didn't I say the problem is that she actually replied to the post?
Who cares if they donate money to her though? Why would Google do anything about it?
The real bad thing she did was responding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844067
>but what about OTHERS
condombeat cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>17831773
Kiara is worse in my opinion.
Liberal whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841675
>she admitted to the use of drugs and then lied but it's ok because....
>because it just is ok!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844246
She stopped being a liberal a long time ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844200
No I realized it's fucking stupid the moment I saw it happening. I'm just wondering why people still care about it. Enough to make multiple distracks and memes about being cucked. Unless it's part of the joke I'm missinh

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843276
>VT
Fuck off tourist you are not welcome here

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844246
>Liberal whore
cant tell if leftist or right winger

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844262
Not the person you replied to but. If it is actually the case, she most likely had to lie because japan doesn't play when it comes to drugs and stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844213
Man you really do not fucking see the forest for the trees, you are responding in literal terms to things I'm talking about symbolically. Yes it's a problem she replied to that post of fucking course. Now, WHY is it a problem she replied to it? It's mocking her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17841728
>vtubers aren't idols
They are. The entire model is based on traditional idols and the pioneer of the entire vtuber phenomenon, Kizuna Ai, was explicitly intended to be a virtual idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844299
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844270
Proof?
>>17844303
Neither

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844401
No political shit on her roommate twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844350
I understand I just don't think it was as big as a deal as people are making. I didn't even think the original reply was serious. Still doesn't explain why people want her to graduate and stuff because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844037
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844067
Prove it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844539
Not yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17842849
Anon you dare went against the echo chamber and downplay the discord-organized raid? Why are you such a monster like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844462
Because she unironically hates hololive. This ungrateful cunt has zero respect for the opportunity she was given.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844356
All the le wholesome shit the Holo reddit goes on about is in fact, the idol purity aspect shining through in the JPs. All the "wholesome" they like so much IS a facet of idol culture, a fucking central one. Idols are supposed to be clean role models and that's why they act in a pure/pleasant/lighthearted way - or at least, supposed to do that. Whether or not you think it's fake, it's a puff of lightness internet meta full of endless bitterness, butthurt and cloaked irony. Good clean fun from cute girls is a fucking lost art outside of basically Disney movies in the West. EVERYTHING else is bitter, or ironic, or grimdark, hardcore, "important", political, preachy etc. Everything.

The pure, simplistic qualities of Holos attracted people fucking starved, dying, from a lack of non-irony-laced positive emotions on the internet. The effect is strong enough to pull people from over the oceans and across language barriers. Redditors are in essence at least in one way, in fact huge idolfags but don't even fucking know it, because they don't really understand all the nuances of the term and conflate it with unicorns only. Or rather, they are too stuck up to even contemplate this so try to carve off the charm as something other than what it is.

Once you understand all these things, you look at someone like Mori and realize that she is a poison to the company. All irony-laced, anti-idol types in the company are - that bitter sarcastic attitude is not what got Holo famous at all. It's not what built up the brand name that got these sarcastic shitters the attention and money they've pulled in. They need to shut the fuck up and go with the flow of what the company does best or they can get the fuck out of Hololive and take their equally poisonous fans with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844356
All the le wholesome shit the Holo reddit goes on about is in fact, the idol purity aspect shining through in the JPs. All the "wholesome" they like so much IS a facet of idol culture, a fucking central one. Idols are supposed to be clean role models and that's why they act in a pure/pleasant/lighthearted way - or at least, supposed to do that. Whether or not you think it's fake, it's a puff of lightness shing into a Western internet meta full of endless bitterness, butthurt and cloaked irony. Good clean fun from cute girls is a fucking lost art outside of basically Disney movies in the West. EVERYTHING else is bitter, or ironic, or grimdark, hardcore, "important", political, preachy etc. Everything.

The pure, simplistic qualities of Holos attracted people fucking starved, dying, from a lack of non-irony-laced positive emotions on the internet. The effect is strong enough to pull people from over the oceans and across language barriers. Redditors are in essence at least in one way, in fact huge idolfags but don't even fucking know it, because they don't really understand all the nuances of the term and conflate it with unicorns only. Or rather, they are too stuck up to even contemplate this so try to carve off the charm as something other than what it is.

Once you understand all these things, you look at someone like Mori and realize that she is a poison to the company. All irony-laced, anti-idol types in the company are - that bitter sarcastic attitude is not what got Holo famous at all. It's not what built up the brand name that got these sarcastic shitters the attention and money they've pulled in. They need to shut the fuck up and go with the flow of what the company does best or they can get the fuck out of Hololive and take their equally poisonous fans with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844656
And this is why we have jews and zogbots actively trying to ruin it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844675
I'm yagoo and i think youre an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844637
What echo chamber. I'm not saying she isn't at fault. But it's mostly stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>17844675
There not gonna get rid of her for acting like that and I don't see a reason to.
But I understand where you come from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17843548
Both
She doesn't understand idol culture, she doesn't watch anime and she doesn't care about streaming.
I will help gate keep the communities I care about.
Gate keeping is good. it helps in keeping out the dishonest people wanting to make a quick buck out of your hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17845169
Since when does she not watch anime? If you mean mentioning it then yeah I can understand

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>>17842932
The comment doesn't even apply to anyone before 4th gen. Hololive didn't print money until 3rd gen blew up. Before that they couldn't do it full time. If anything he was either talking about 4th and 5th gen or EN1. And I bet he can't name anyone in 4th and 5th gen.

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>>17845169
Imagine gatekeeping hololive. Worse yet, imagine gatekeeping the branch of hololive not established for sake of idol culture.

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>>17845364
Fuck off zogbot

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>>17844675
Mucho texto aside
Consider this: The girls can literally do all of that without adhering to the whole "Idol" pedestal
I like Friend because Friend is Friend, idc if she's an idol or not

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>>17845364
>for sake of idol culture.
Idol culture is cancer but you should at least inform yourself to understand the fanbase you are trying to appeal to.
She made many rookie mistakes like responding to the hate and therefore letting the situation escalate.

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>>17845609
Friend is like 99% idol, and people bring up like.. 2 clips to prove otherwise. Rather again, redditors think idol is a toxic term rather than literally what they enjoy about Hololive exactly-specifically so go through mental gymnastics to excuse themselves.

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>>17834524
Holy shit I knew she was bad in collabs but I didn't know it was THAT much of a reoccuring theme.

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>>17845609
If this thread is anything to go by Friend is a whore because she interacts with males.

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>>17844675
based

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>>17843578
not even woman can read woman

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>>17845809
No one gives a shit about male interaction retard, she gets the hate because of the way she behaves.

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>>17845809
More like talking to males = cucked right?

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>>17845690
>Idol culture is cancer
Kill yourself roastie

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>>17845996
I'm agreeing and just wanna add, bear in mind the primary defense of even Mori herself is to try to spin/blame all this criticism as "you just don't want me talking to males stop trying to control my life" when no, it's not about that. Notice nobody here gives one iota of a fuck about her Rikka collab other than that she shamefully bungled that one too like many others. It's about her attitudes about the company and her fans in it, and how she treats both those things like dirt in favor of trying to gain the favor of actual dirt, aka fraud clout-leech ecelebs.

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>>17845690
>fanbase you are trying to appeal to.
En fanbase are not idolfags west doesn't have a big following for idols but there is for streamers. They are appealing to anime fans and twitch watchers not idol fans. If they did they would've hired idol material.

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>>17835270
maybe Kiara should be an example to us all

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>>17845996
The thing Is though. Believe at any given time people could give stuff as stupid as mori did if they can capitalize on a mistake. If this whole thing didn't happen I doubt there would be any threads about her behavior. But since it happened everything starts coming. It's not like it's anything new either. There are dedicated haters for every holo/vtuber in general. They just wait until a bad thing happens so they can post without being attacked.

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>>17831773
best thread in /vt/ in months

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>>17835994
>how fucking awful, attention-whorish and sex-driven the western internet is these days
>like that hasn't been the case since forever

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>>17846663
That's sad

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>>17846830
It looks like a very trite hate thread from the OP but it's actually got a couple fairly thoughtful posts in it. Unironically. You're free to think whatever you want of course.

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>>17846559
People gave her benefit of the doubt. Yeah, she's imperfect but who is? One of her charming points (it used to be).
But NOW, especially after her roommate stream everyone with a half of the brain and everyone who cared pieced together what she actually is, and that she's made up her mind about critique she receives.
There is literally no point in talking to her as her haters now live inside her head and she lashes out at people who are her actual fans because they DARE to point to her that she behaves like a cunt and shit she writes can damage other holomems and the brand.
Cuckbeats are ridiculed not because they like her but because they take whatever retarded shit she does with a praise like good little cucks, even if she treats them like trash. She's poisonous.

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>>17846872
Yeah I guess it has more going for it. But there like 10 posts dedicated to mori. It's getting bad

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>>17846978
>>>/r9k/

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>>17847111
>>>/trash/

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Mori is cool