/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS19hfudlVs

>Ollie invited Astel and Aruran to the ID server first because they plan on merging it with JP/EN, and when that happens the boys won't be allowed to visit ID at all
>Even implies they can't visit them
>Rules are rules

Why do they treat the boys like lepers?

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>>17773084
>Why do they treat lepers like lepers?
Huh? Where are we going with this?

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>>17773084
because idol fans (especially jp) can be fucking psycho sometimes, and assume that any and all interaction with a man automatically means they're fucking. that's bad of course, because then the totally achievable hypothetical of being the one to fuck the idol would never come true.

[Anonymous No.]

idol culture, some fans are jealous of males who get to collab with them

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>>17773258
>>17773264
It's not like ID merging with JP/EN means the boys will suddenly be doing impromptu MC collabs with the latter. Is breathing the same virtual air as the girls a no-no?

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Roberu...

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>>17773084
They don't. Holostars and Hololive chuubas know the rules. Beggars like Ollie needs to be shot down.

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I knew this thread was going to be made.

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>>17773084
Teasing other star branches

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>>17773084
Good, they're shit.

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>>17774523
This. Fuck that hypocrite bitch

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>>17773215
seethe, hoshicorn

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>>17774523
Rules can be changed. If they changed for the sake of schizos they can be changed for the sake of normal people again

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>>17774882
And guess what? JP schizos overpowered EN/ID schizos. Go beg somewhere else.

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>>17773548
Letting them play minecraft together is worse, those girls spent years getting to midgame and they don't need 3 dudes coming in and accomplishing shit in less than 48 hours

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>>17774852
cute!

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>>17774852
Don't use my ship gainst Hoshiyomis, you imbecile!

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>>17774801
How?

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>>17774532
yoshiyoshi homofriend
On the bright side, imagine the shitstorm here if they were somehow allowed in the server. Silver linings right?

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>>17773084
Wasn't everyone saying ID server was Ollie's idea so she could play with the boys? But if she knew they'd be merging that can't be the case, unless she was pressured to go along with it.

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>>17774955
Nah get fucked faggot. I'm not begging. I don't NEED to see any of these people interact, but I'm not going to work myself into a schizophrenic delusion to force myself to think that it's wrong to want chuubas to interact freely without faggots like you concluding it means sex or that they're dirty whores cucking their fan base. People are allowed to wish things were different, especially for autistic shit like, "MALES, YAB". Actually allowing the homos into a server connected to JP would be company suicide but I'm not a beggar for thinking that it's autistic as hell that they even have to block the interaction to protect their bottom line.

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Pleeease PLEEEASE collab with my Homos, I beg of you

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>>17775169
We get shitposts regardless
>>17775317
>I don't NEED to see any of these people interact,
Based on your post, apparently you DO

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>>17775332
Please cause a Yab and summon the JP schizos. The useless homos may finally graduate.

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Just fucking blow the whole server up already. We all know this is going to end with Ollie livestreaming her fellow Holos getting spitroasted by the Stars against their will, might as well skip to it now.

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>>17774523
What rules anon? There is not any to begin with, they are doing this by themselves

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>>17775317
>Rules can be changed
>N-no, I-I'm not begging
Pure fucking cope. Go beg somewhere else because Cover ain't sure gonna pander to the likes of you.

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>>17775188
They were always going to merge eventually but they are merging before she actually managed to do anything. They are only having their first guest now but they did their whole launch of the server months ago.

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>>17775317
>they should be able to interact freely
>but they shouldn't be able to freely decide not to interact
Curious how it's always the same with you cucks. They already do freely interact. Ollie can interact with them whenever she wants and she does, what she can't do is force others to interact with them in a server that isn't hers.

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>>17773084
remember the hissy fit kfp had when kiara used to invite hukepapa
thats why

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>>17775188
>Requests IDs own server to play with holostars
>They give them the server
>No more sudden rare interactions between IDs and JPs
>Ok let's see what she'll do with Astel
>Holostars are banned from their server anyway
Bruh

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>>17774852
See, lepers

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>>17775531
This, holostars are making this by themselves, nobody is forcing them going into exile

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>>17775543
That is not why, the JP server does not only prevent males. Mamatori can't visit either. ID is able to invite people while they are their own server just as EN did, it's once they merge that they can't.

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>>17774882
Implying normal people watch vtuber with Idol gimmicks...
Normies are watching OTV, Amouranth or ludwig & shitposting on subreddit LSF enjoying any drama that happens there... Normies = Dramanigger ,fuck them...

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>>17775547
That is not what happened, she said the Stars will be her first guests. The Stars aren't banned from the ID server, they are banned from the merged server and the ID solo server was such a colossal failure that Ollie's ingenious idea is being scrapped to merge into the Holo server so ID don't remain a forgotten and isolated branch forever. She had months to do something with the ID server and never did.

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>>17775531
>what she can't do is force others to interact with them in a server that isn't hers

No one said anything about forcing anyone to interact with them. They could just play with ID like they always do, but Ollie seems to imply that they can't go to the Holostars server either.

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>>17775786
>Ollie seems to imply that they can't go to the Holostars server either.
Yeah, that part doesn't make sense and if it is true (it may not be), it would have to be a rule Holostars imposed on themselves.

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>>17775463
Just don't merge? ID zone already exists in main server. WTF why is Ollie such retard. The ID server can be a kind of hub to invite outsiders for kino Minecraft collabs.

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>>17775890
Her proposing the server in the first place as the ID server was the retarded thing, she didn't care that it hurt the rest of her branch by cutting them off from everyone else but what were they going to do, not participate in her special ID server? If all you need is a separate server to do collabs with, then make a server for collabs.

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>>17775836
But Astel invited her, I don't see any of the boys being against it either.

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Wasn't the ID server made because they don't want to overcrowd the JP server with ID3, which gets delayed?

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If Astel and Aru build something in ID when they visit will the ID girls be forced to wall it off like some forbidden location when JP girls come?

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>>17776105
Then call her out on it. Unless there's some Minecraft server policy I don't understand, there is literally nothing preventing her from going to their server except them not allowing it. It's not like the minute you enter the JP server you can never interact with the Stars ever again because ID has already made their home on the JP server before and they are free to interact with the Stars (just not in the JP server). Either way, Ollie is just stirring up shit on purpose because either she is allowed and just trying to play the victim or she isn't, and if she isn't, it's to protect individuals, not a company-wide restriction or else she wouldn't be allowed to individually collaborate. So again, it's her playing the victim when she's the anti trying to create drama.

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>>17776269
It doesn't matter what they build, they won't have access to it. Non-EN members built stuff in the EN server too.

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>>17776269
Only if the JPs are
>Rushia
>Lamy
>Who else?

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>>17775317
You sound mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17776394
Aqua
Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

Get fucked Ollie, you fucking cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>pink wool
nothing personal homos

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>>17774801
They’re definitely teasing.

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>>17775543
The “hissy fit” was more because of a weapon huke made for her.

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>>17773084
>It's always Ollie being annoying with this shit trying to create an "anti Idol army"
How can someone be this obsessed with interacting with males Jesus, not even Fubuki or Matsuri cry this much

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>>17773084
It's amazing how come no one in the management just tells Ollie to shut up, the more she talks about shit like that the more words get spread around like "That's why Coco left, the girls are being oppressed, that why I will watch niji from now on" girl only knows how to damage hololive, it's something that even the stars get mad about

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>>17777976
The Stars could just tell her to shut the fuck up or stop associating with her if she doesn't stop using them for her drama. They come off looking worse every time she opens her mouth.

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>>17777733
She wants unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>why do they avoid homostars
Because several of the jps themselves said they don't want collabs with men even back when it was fully allowed (like Aqua, Pekora, Korone etc) and several others are very aware of the loss of income it involves when many of the biggest akasimps are either unicorns (Rushia) or just hate male collabs. (more than you'd think)
It's not like they can't collab with those who want it like Fubuki and Matsuri but the servers would mean forcing it on those who don't.

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>>17775395
>ummon the JP schizos. The useless homos may finally graduate.
Graduate from life presumably.

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>>17778212
She wants Unity™. She hates everyone who doesn't want things her way, that's not unity. She's constantly trying to create a drama that doesn't need to exist.

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Best case scenario is just to create a new hub for ID, EN and any JP member (Stars or Main HoloJP) willing to do so. JP server is quite loaded with crap as it is.

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>>17776105
>I don't see any of the boys being against it either.
It wasn't the talents but the management if I'm not mistaken, I'm not sure which tho

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>>17778462
It would have to be the Holostars management. If they did, it seems very reasonable to me that they don't want to create a precedent that will cause conflict in the company by having their server be the one all the sluts hang out on while the rest of the Hologirls have the real server.

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>>17778331
not to mention that it's a much bigger risk for the homos, if they couldn't get hololive fans to stick to them and their core fujo leaves them in the dumpster for collabing with girls, they're as good as graduated.

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>>17778331
People need a boogeyman so they have to pretend this is about women not being free to do what they want rather than accepting not every woman wants to be around men. Some of these people aren't even capable of going outside, it's not a surprise they don't want to collab with males. Frankly, Ollie and her simps give off the same energy as those people who attack battered women for not wanting men in their shelters.

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So what was Ollie's idea of ID server anyway? I thought they were just supposed to pull EN server idea of merging with JP later and connect all three branches together in the end? Am I wrong here?

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>>17778630
I really don't know how true the idea that a single female would lose money for collabing with males is. If the cuckbeats prove anything, there's always an audience that gets off on being cucked live and anyone who's paying a woman to publicly flirt with them as one of hundreds of other superchatters is already mentally ill enough that they'll rationalize anything.

But putting that question aside, it definitely can't be true for the Stars, they all collab with females all the time, including females from Hololive. Including yubigate herself. So they can't possibly have any fans who care if they collab with a whore.

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>>17778789
I guess she meant to do stuff with it before it was merged but she never bothered because the whole project was a joke and fell flat completely.

[Anonymous No.]

holobeggers at it again. Wish cover just disbanded that failure of a group.

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>>17778882
So homostars are allowed to visit ID but not EN and JP?

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>>17779001
That wouldn't resolve the problem, the Stars don't initiate the drama, the problem is the dramawhores they keep around in ID/EN.

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>>17774882
You are the schizo here, retard. Miko, Noel, Subaru said already that they don't want to collab with the Stars, you star beggars are the only ones that want to push this change for the sake of your own ego.

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>>17779055
No outsiders are allowed to visit the main server, so once ID is merged, outsiders can't visit. EN used to also have guests when it was its own separate server like ID is now but after the merge none of those guests could come back.

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>>17779130
Holy shit that's some tight restrictions right here. And funniest thing that after merging (and summer festival specifically) no one is playing minecraft anymore.

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>>17779055
Just once.

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>>17779130
and thats good. Thats a Hololive server. Why would you want to bring outsiders there

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>>17779219
I mean, what, do you want them to all play it every day? It's like any other game, plenty of them don't like it and plenty of them will always be streaming it. HoloX are active in there, Sora's always hanging around but the fad of the month game is not always going to be Minecraft. It did provide content for a lot of collabs and it is one of the best ways to get interactions between the branches/generations.

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>>17779130
This is really sad. The main server is completely isolated not only to StarsJP but also any outsider. A server for guests might not be a bad idea.

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>>17779361
Because they get off on watching the girl they like get fucked by someone else.

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>>17779426
>36 JPs
>11 ENs
>6 IDs and 3 more on the way
>isolated
Dumb retard.

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>>17773084
The comments section is sad.

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>>17779501
Starfags and cuckbeats are self centered retards with a victim complex.

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>>17779426
They can always make their own server, no? ID wise Moona has Nyori server and Mana server so why Ollie can't tho?

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>>17778399
That's why she gushes over and collabs with JPs who ignore the boys, right? Idiot.

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>>17779426
And who would those guests be? You guys propose things you want but it suggests you don't even watch any of these channels. Literally anybody can play Minecraft with their friends and make a stream of it on another server at any time, but fans want to see Hololive content on Hololive channels. Letting in randos into the Holoserver is just asking for trouble. It was already controversial when someone (Kronii) spent hours on the Holoserver and intentionally doesn't stream it since that server is not her private server, it exists for streaming content. Most Holos never collaborate with each other, work on changing that before you bother bringing in guests.

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>>17779748
>It was already controversial when someone (Kronii) spent hours on the Holoserver and intentionally doesn't stream it since that server is not her private server, it exists for streaming content.
Moona...

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>>17779721
The drama she tries to fester hurts them so unless you're saying she's retarded, anything she does positively towards them is disingenuous or because she thinks she'll win them over to collabing with the boys. She truly believes she's the hero for destroying the culture that existed before her. She never tells her fans to stop blaming anyone who doesn't want to collab with males even though that includes plenty of her senpais.

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>>17779130
Why would EN and ID agree to a merge then I wonder? Unless it was decided by management, but the girls were all giddy about it and put on a show and everything.

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>>17779721
Ollie actually barely collabs with those JP girls anymore, unless it's a big collab with tons of people.

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>>17779392
I couldn't care less for minecraft. I've just pointed it out that it is funny how they stopped almost all activities a month after merging which was supposed to do the opposite. Even Council don't do shit and they're still new to the server along with HoloX. They could start the new wave but whatever, Ark I guess.

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>>17779872
Because it means more cross-branch collabs? Every choice you ever make has pros and cons, this wasn't some secret. The EN and ID servers are dead in comparison to JP.

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>>17779361
Mama Tori we miss you...

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>>17780004
Do you honestly believe there would have been more Minecraft in that time if they didn't merge or are you just being retarded on purpose? If it created more Minecraft content, then it did what it was supposed to. Whether EN is merged or separate doesn't affect whether or not certain people hate the game. They've also gone back to Ark after abandoning it for a while, they will go back to Minecraft. Most of EN isn't even streaming at all these days, their aversion to Minecraft is hardly the problem.

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>>17780218
Pidor, I don't care for the game itself, I just like sudden interactions and unexpected collabs as it used to be. Fuckin PekoMoona started like this out of nowhere. I don't want "more Minecraft" I want more unplanned unfiltered interactions. Get it?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>17779471
>Cuck mentality

[Anonymous No.]

I just hate that this will get political fast.

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>>17780218
>Gura, Ame, Kiara, Mori, Bae, Mumei and even Fauna are streaming regularly
>IRyS still has an inflamed throat
>Kronii is out until her PC gets fixed
>Ina is getting a new ISP most likely since her old one said 'youre using too much upload' and capped her even after she had upgraded her plan
>Sana is a lost cause for regular streaming
Most of EN would imply that only 3-4 of them stream, and that's simply false at the moment. Yes, the start of January was rough for streams, but that's really a case of unfortunate circumstances lining up.

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>>17780332
Well then I agree, I also prefer that aspect over the game itself but I don't see why you think merging the server has stopped that. The EN side just has their own problems with activity altogether, the ID side have been forcibly isolated thanks to Ollie and the JP side is doing fine with balancing Minecraft with other games and doing plenty of collabs.

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>>17780454
Always has been. This is not some new issue, this is what Ollie is most famous for besides getting fingerblasted on stream.

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>>17780364
>Containment breach
Cringe

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>>17780364
I don't like unicorns, but these fags are just as annoying. Cover is indeed and entertainment company, but hololive is an idol group.

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>>17780464
Calm down ENDF, I wasn't saying there's anything wrong with them having their personal dramas, just pointing out that their issues have nothing to do with Minecraft specifically being ignored.

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>>17778841
I think with girls like Mori and specifically Mori. The fans that send her akas even now, are in a sunk cost fallacy. In the very beginning there was a gifting war between the US and Canada for who could send the most money, and it almost brought Mori to tears since shes been poor for so long. So now theyre stuck thousands of dollars deep thinking that they must stick around to "save" Mori by giving her as much as they can.
And to throw an unnecessary political rrat in there, because of that war, Mori now has all the Canadian viewers and Canadians are massive cucks. So theyll be her only gachikoi left with all of her gray names being TT, poopooman fags that came in later and wont pay up.

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>>17780480
Again I didn't mean that it's a merging fault. just a funny coincidence.

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>>17780480
>the ID side have been forcibly isolated thanks to Ollie
wait what? wdym by that? I don't get it

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>>17776105
If Stars can't play on the Hololive server then it's only fair when the Holos can't play on the Holostars server either.

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>>17780523
Anon... Do you really think outside here everyone is a homobeggar

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>>17780625
Just as everyone else was merging, they left to make their own dead server. Which is what this thread was all about.

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>>17780570
Dont be so surprised if you say dumb shit like 'Most of En doesnt stream' that someone calls out on it. Stick to the facts, that yes, most of EN isnt touching MC right now outside of one-offs like Mumei x Reine collab or Kiara wandering far to find a Lush Cave.
We have enough bullshit around the board already without more being added.

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>>17779947
That's because she's too shy to ask for them, she's said it herself. If you're trying to imply she's now avoiding them for the sake of the boys you're delusional.

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>>17780635

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>>17780625
Don't worry Anon that's just a rrat.
The ID server was there from the beginning and revived for ID3 debut.

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>>17780588
Fair enough I guess? We must have a different definition of coincidence. Someone would have to chart out all the Minecraft streams but I think they went way up in frequency and peaked after the merge so it's actually expected they would then drop hard after all the casuals got their seasonal dose and left again.

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>>17780650
Literally the last comment is something that someone from this board would say, I can tell you that 1 of those is a redditard and the others from here

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>>17780670
I didn't realize you'd cry over something so uncontroversial. You know what I meant, I know what I meant. Your defense for them isn't convincing anyone who actually follows them.

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>>17775024
kek

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>>17780625
Anons think Ollie whipcracked the other girls to play on the ID server and is holding them hostage, as if they wouldn't have had to agree to it.

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>>17780746
Well if you put your point of view in that way then I can probably agree with you. My guess is it's not the game's fault but rather vtubing being in stale state right now.

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>>17780764
Wait, you think the containment breach is someone calling an idol culture defender a schizo? ??????

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>>17773084
post membership homo-beggar

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>>17780712
No? ID server was never a thing until a few months ago.
When Moona, Risu, Iofi started playing Minecraft after their debut they were always on the JP server.

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>>17780650
Everyone on twitter, yt comment and reddit, yes they are.

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>>17780938
Yeah but didn't ID server get builded so that ID can build without getting into land problem with JPs? They were more hesitant to ask JPs to allow IDzone expansion than to ask M-chan to get ID server

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>>17781294
What are you talking about? Moona literally build anywhere and everywhere in that server.

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>>17780464
>ame
kinda stretching there buddy

[Anonymous No.]

The ID-server was a fucking mistake.

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>>17781492
Moona is a legit builder so no surprise for her, I think it was Risu tho who was shy to build alongside JPs and guess who's the most addicted among the IDs in ID server

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>>17773084
Why do normalfags get so righteous and worked up over this?
Literally every girl is allowed to collab with a guy if they want, they just know better than to do that either due to not wanting to hurt their fans or wanting easy money.
Why is it so hard for them to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

Can’t the homos and the JP girls just not interact and build away from each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783354
Not a chance.

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>>17783248
Because normies search news about Idol culture and the first thing they see is a girl shaving her head, so they go apeshit thinking every idol rule can reach that level of drama

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>>17773084
>Selen and Ollie collab finally gets the go ahead
>Selen talks about how it's happening
>Immediately gets cancelled
They need to learn to stop talking about things and just do it if they get approval.
The sections of management who hear about shit through streams will always call it off otherwise.
It's typical upper management shit where they want to seem like they're doing something so they don't get fired so they just shoot shit down that's already been approved as soon as they hear about it.

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>>17783248
Because westashit anglos hate the idea that any culture other than their own disgusting one exists.
Fucking hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that beggars don't watch the streams

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>>17783806
are there any clips for this

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>>17783992
No one watches these faggots.

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>>17778331
>>17778741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjU8kajNjdY

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>>17784426
>stream from 2018

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>>17773084
ID making their own server was the stupidest thing ever. I thought the entire point was for whores like ollie and iofi to be able to play with their male friends anyway.

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>>17786470
Doesn't really change anything

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>>17790595
iofi never touch MC if no one force her, lol

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>>17773084
The rules are just a convenient excuse. The holos have nothing to gain from collabing with the holostars and only things to lose. It's easier to say that they aren't allowed to than they don't want to.

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>>17783248
Why is it so hard for you to understand the point here wasn't about collabing? No ones asking for Astel to hop into JP and build something with Pekora. It's about there being a space the boys could have played in with the ID girls LIKE THEY ALREADY DO and being shut out of it because of JP.

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>>17791988
Pretty much this. Stars are better off collabing with anyone but their coworkers. They’ve let the unicorns become far too powerful.

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>>17792404
Just use homoserver, if management denies that, it's homo's management fault for being uppity.

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>>17783526
>thinking every idol rule can reach that level of drama
female vtubers should be executed on a live broadcast if they ever collab with or talk privately with any males

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>>17792404
Here's the thing, if ID really wants that shared place with stars, they can set up a special server not only for stars but any non-holo chuubas out there, the ID server was made up with merger as it's end goal so why Ollie felt the need to force the stars to visit a server intended just for the girls?

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>>17792516
Making their own server sounds better.

[Anonymous No.]

Shit if I was a holostar I wouldn't want to be on the JP server either. I would be so fucking terrified of running into basically any of gen 3 on there

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>>17792960
Leeches are pests and must be eradicated on sight.

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>>17792404
They could easily set up their own shared server, nothing is stopping them.

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>>17792722
>>17793080
The ID girls already build shit on three different servers, adding a fourth feels like overkill, they've already spent months building stuff in the ID server just to have it worth visiting.

Also it should be noted that months ago Astel invited Ollie to the Holostars server and also asked her if there was an ID one. At that point there wasn't and since nothing came of it I always wondered if that exchange of theirs is what prompted the ID server revival so they could play together, but now who knows.

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>>17792722
>>17793080
Someone literally asks her about that in OP's clip which prompts her explanation. So I don't think it's an option for them.

[Anonymous No.]

The comments in the video make me feel sick, how disgusting these normies are

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>>17773084
I don't care about stars but as Sora once said, they have female fans. It's not a one side problem, these girls are way more radical than unicorns.

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>>17773084
>>Hololive is an idol company
>>Holofans gets mad when they want them to act like idols.

If you really want male collab, just watch manisanji.

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>>17799552
Yes, that's why they collab with females outside Holopro all the time and no one gives a shit.

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>>17799679
They'll stay apart forever and you'll never change that. Done.

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>>17773084
good riddance, rober is cool but homostars should be shafted

[Anonymous No.]

>>17774532
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.]

>>17776394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iggKUllwh4

[Anonymous No.]

>>17775317
okay canur go fuck mori pig galope

[Anonymous No.]

>>17777733
Ollie is the same person who thought all Holos were genuinely friends with each other and thought she would be invited to every collab just because she was new.
Fubuki and Matsuri genuinely tried to help the homos but Ollie is trying to brute force it on everyone.
Ollie tried making a Holopro tournament and management instantly shut her down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17799679
Astel got shit on hard when he appeared in Ame's chat soon after her debut to the point he never did again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17800676
Ame appeared in Astel's chat during a karaoke and people instantly tried to ship them. That's when she stopped communicating with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17779130
Chicken's mother has been on the server since the merge.
I think it's only Huke who is banned, both for being male and for doing a Dream and cheating at block game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17800676
Yeah, and he put his foot down and told people making a fuss to fuck off and called them virgins. No one's given him problems interacting with girls (including Holomems) since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17800762
In the last Mamatori stream in Minecraft she explains why this is the last MC stream with Mamatori since she won't be able to join after the merge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-wK5vET8WM

The burden is on you to find evidence to the contrary. Just a single example of her being on the server after the merge would do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17800748
>>17801198
It's incidents like these that discourage holomems from interacting in public chat more. I'm sure they still drop a message every now and then in DMs or discord, but dropping a one liner in public chat during a stream really brings out the retards in chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
>Why do they treat the boys like lepers?
Because they are men and should all graduate as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17775024
Holy kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17775777
And why do you blame Ollie for that? The server wasn't her idea.
Plus out of the entirety of ID the only that plays MC with extremely regularity is Moona, the rest either don't play it or don't care that much about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17799563
>Hololive
>Idol company
Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
Kind of sad how this board treats Ollie so badly when she is actually a kind, considerate person. She thought about the Holostars because they were going to be excluded soon and invited them first because she actually believes in Hololive Unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803722
It really is nothing but gossipy women in this shithole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803722
This, Ollie may be retarded at times, but she is a genuinely good person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803722
Anons can't wrap their heads around her actions coming from a place of genuine care and support. They think she's some yab mastermind who's trying to force the boys on the girls when she's done nothing of the sort. She was hesitant to mention Astel by name in front of Mori of all people when they played Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803990
But anon, muh pretend GFE, she's trying to stop it!
There's also the fact that the ID vtuber community is giga unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803722
>>17803769
>>17803781
>>17803990
>>17804094
So much cuck cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803769
Fuck, am I back in the goddam -stain timeline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17803722
She creates drama nobody asks for, whatever her intentions are, they aren't good. At best they are misguided and retarded. If she actually just talked to everyone to get their views on the matter, she would shut the fuck up but instead she takes pride in pushing this conflict.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17804679
Drama with who? /vt/? She's never pushed anything on other talents. She's loud in her support of Holostars but she's loud for Hololive talents as well. And sorry, I didn't know you were a Hololive insider, how do you know she hasn't spoken with other talents on this topic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17805302
Did you even watch the video in the OP and read what her fans say about it? She's not so stupid that she doesn't know what she's doing. Name a single positive thing that comes from her baiting dramaniggers into harassing JP about their preferences. The professional way to collaborate with Stars and be respectful to everyone is the same way you are supposed to handle your roommate. You can be active in both worlds but just don't cause drama by trying to bring conflicts from one into the other. There is no way to spin what she does into doing something good because what she is mad about is that other people aren't like her. She is allowed to collab with Stars, nobody gives a fuck. Stars aren't doing the collab-begging and JP's that don't want to collab with Stars aren't telling them to go fuck themselves, both sides are being professional about it except for Ollie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
Those comments are pretty delusional.
For whatever reason they're certain that Yagoo is going to change the rules soon so HoloJP/StarsJP are more interlinked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
>those comments
why are indogs like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17806124
The restrictions come from the talents themselves, Yagoo isn't enforcing anything. But, on the other side of the pond, the Omega tranny seems prepared to enforce linkage between the branches of EN and once that is done, JP will be faced with a lot more drama over keeping their barrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17779567
Don't even try to compare Stars fans with cuckbeats. Most of us are perfectly fine with how things are right now and want none of the drama EOP beggars create every time this discussion is brought up.

[Anonymous No.]

There is more than enough evidence that hologirls all talk to stars on discord all the fucking time, even Rushia. Them going to a server or two ain't a biggy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17806918
>There is more than enough evidence that hologirls all talk to stars on discord all the fucking time
where?

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>>17806918
They don't even talk to other Holos on discord, Okayu and Gura only just were able to get in-touch with each other on discord after both deciding they liked the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17807433
How it works between the international branches at least is that the personal managers contact each other and give the talents discord info after both parties agree and then they're free to communicate whenever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17806729
>JP will be faced with a lot more drama over keeping their barrier
JP literally doesn't give a shit. The collab ban was lifted like 2 years ago, good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17806729
There is no barrier. The JP girls are free to collab with the homos, most choose to ignore their existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17807675
The problem is events, JP has already compromised themselves in their Unity attempts by now officially bringing in EN and ID to their Holo events and pushing the idea of wanting to be more and more unified between the branches. When EN refuses to make such a distinction between Myth, Council and Stars in their own events, only inviting Myth and Council to JP events will no longer be seen as a sign of "unity".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17807549
They didn't have access to each other's discord to even send friend requests previously and had to go through managers but during big company-wide events like Minecraft and Mario Kart they do share a discord group so that's how they were able to send friend requests in the case of Gura/Okayu. They still had to accept them though. And since Stars were not in those collabs, they would still have to go through a manager.

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>>17807788
A self-imposed barrier is still a barrier, anon. Nobody said they aren't free to collab with them but the fact that they don't means they have put up a barrier to avoid interacting with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17807848
I fail to see why should anyone give a fuck about Unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17808206
And why is that a problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809261
Pottymouth-san, the “unity” thing is something their biggest competitor is pushing, especially for their EN branch. Omega seems to want Cover to take a large piece of that pie to prove that HoloPro can do it too and be better at it. Luxiem’s success is indirectly pushing them harder into that direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809605
To add to this, if they were to release StarsEN and treat them as their Japanese counterparts, all the way with their own collab shyness, they’re doomed to fail. EN needs to set the terrain to make sure the guys feel welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809582
I never said it's a problem, Jesus Christ do you people lack reading comprehension entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809605
>Luxiem’s success is indirectly pushing them harder into that direction
Then Omega is retarded because Nijisanji males have a literal buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
Holostars isnt hololive
Theres 0 reasons why they should interact

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809261
I agree they shouldn't, I wish they could have seen the error in their ways over bothering to include ID/EN but now they've set a precedent. MK should have proved that it's a huge mistake to push this with how ID/EN treated the whole thing. As EN/ID continue to expand, they're going to treat JP with less and less respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809786
>EN needs to set the terrain to make sure the guys feel welcome
And they can do that without dragging the entire company, but considering Myth has been around for almost a year and a half and only one of them ever collabed with the Stars (and mostly forgot about their existence) they're doing a really bad job at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17805302
>She's never pushed anything on other talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809970
Whether their attempt will be successful or not has yet to be seen. They obviously want a piece of that pie now that it’s confirmed that there IS a market.
They can learn from Luxiem’s recent blunders and fill gaps.

[Anonymous No.]

Omegatranny's shills are here huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810157
Well, it took NijisanjiEN 3 waves to finally include males so they were hesitant as well. EN will work things out just fine. Myth, in particular, is in its own bubble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810394
>They obviously want a piece of that pie now that it’s confirmed that there IS a market
Market? You mean the big ass collab that ended up with around 6.5k combined? I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809605
This is the only time I will ever say that Omegatranny isn't totally in the wrong. Hololive copied Nijisanji when they were less successful, evwn collating with Nijimales, then Holo surpassed Niji and leaned in on the idol purity. Hololive's formula is the current meta for the chuuba industry, but that is changing rapidly. If the meta of the industry changes that much it will be a net positive for them to work with males again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810157
Being able to collab with StarsJP and StarsEN are two completely different things. There is a language barrier and no event where they would collab together as entire branches. Yet Council members who can't speak JP have already collabed with Stars JP so you can bet Stars EN would no longer have that excuse of language. Irys and Kiara will never do a one-on-one collab together but they still do EN events together, with as autistic as EN management is about refusing to divide up the Gens as actual Gens, they will definitely force EN events with the StarsEN and the girls together so Omegatranny can prove there's no barrier and they are the superior culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810802
I mean he's never in the wrong if you have the same goals as him, but his goals are detrimental to what people like about Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810765
It exists.
Luxiem had something of a bittersweet success where they can’t really get it going in NA prime time hours but do very well in SEA hours. Luxiem members have plenty of gaps in which Cover can learn from and bring in males that can fill those gaps.
>Amongus collab
That was one huge mess. Some members couldn’t even talk at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810802
>Hololive copied Nijisanji when they were less successful, evwn collating with Nijimales, then Holo surpassed Niji and leaned in on the idol purity
Do you want me to tell how do I know that you're just role playing oldfag? The muh "idol mentality" was literally a running joke until late summer 2020 when army of turists started to taking that shit way too seriously. And don't even let me start about early Erolive that is mostly dead and buried nowadays. Also your argument completely falls apart when Matuli and Towa exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810909
If you goal is to make money and stay relevant it may not be useful in the long run to focus only on the preferences of the current fans. I'm neutral on this topic myself, I don't care if they try to force unity with the homos or not, but I can say that appealing to the "serious fans" and even the current paypigs has its limits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17811431
The point is Hololive had to change and evolve to adjust to the environment around them, and that will always be true. It is possible (not likely, but technically possible) that they could evolve to be more male friendly if that helped them adapt in the future. Of course, only if the money was in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17811948
>The point is Hololive had to change and evolve to adjust to the environment around them
are you that faggot from comments? also no they are too late for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>17811674
Vtubing itself being mainstream isn't reliable in the long-run, you need to take note of the people who were into it when it wasn't a fad because they are the people who will still be around when the fad is over. If you're just attempting a pump-and-dump scheme like any other investment bubble, then obviously Omega seems to be the right idea. The big difference between his branch and JP is JP are a bunch of freelancers and nobody is managing their future with schemes to profit as much as possible off them. But EN are forced into all sorts of retarded shit that the girls themselves don't even like (such as the lore autism) because that's what the tranny wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17810093
> As EN/ID continue to expand, they're going to treat JP with less and less respect.
If the plan works and EN/ and/orID males become a regular thing and it works, JP will start to look like the odd one out losing even more respect as they’d be behind the times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17811948
>The point is Hololive had to change and evolve to adjust to the environment around them
Sankisei being the most popular gen to this day proves you wrong on all accounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812265
100% this we should force male collabs even they like it or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812265
The saddest part is they bring it on themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17811431
>was a running joke
Because they made dirty jokes and had yabs, not because they collabed with men much less the disgusting fucking e-celebs that westoids are pushing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812379
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17809605
"unity" has been a thing in nijisanji since 2019 in nijsanji ID. NijiEN didn't bring in this, they were inspired by ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812404
>The saddest part
Most of them are swimming in gachikoi's money, they're happy with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>do it like nijis
Niji collabs aren't fun most of the time though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812265
>JP will start to look like the odd one out losing even more respect as they’d be behind the times
I don't think they care about that.They are the main branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812721
That's why it's sad that them losing all that is due to their own actions. Not that I actually believe they'll lose completely in the end. Western simps are bigger paypigs than Japanese gachikois.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812854
>They are the main branch
They won't be for much longer if they keep pursuing their expansion plans.

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>>17810809
>Omegatranny can prove there's no barrier and they are the superior culture.
And those big events will have less people watching than a random Gura stream of some shitty game. What that vtweeter doesn't understand is how much the fanbase in general does not care about the Stars. A few hundred people on reddit is not representative of the actual viewers, because if it was then Spiral Tones wouldn't take 8 fucking months before hitting 1 million views when any song Mori puts out reaches the same milestone in less than week, Rikka wouldn't see almost 0 growth out of this and most of the boys wouldn't still have under 500 viewers for most of their streams. Maybe a StarsEN will change this, but if it doesn't and the general viewerbase keeps not giving a damn about them it'll be really funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812927
>they

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812866
>Western simps are bigger paypigs than Japanese gachikois
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ANON PLEASE

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812944
Funniest shit is when the reddit thread for stars ID EN collab got more upvotes than the stream's viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812927
>They won't be for much longer if they keep pursuing their expansion plans
they will

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812866
>Western simps are bigger paypigs than Japanese gachikois.
Completely delusional westoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812265
It's the other way around. HoloX outdid EN Gen 2 within weeks, if anything the JPs are priorities and the other branches are probably viewed by Cover as lower-tier with the exception of a few members.
Also HoloJP DID have collabs with Niji males at one point. But they went with the idol image and all those VODs were nuked around the time of the Permissions Saga, and unicorns are straight up a larger source of income and fans than what they were doing before. Everyone knows the game and the rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813078
It happens all the time. Threads about Stars streams on reddit have more traffic than the actual fucking stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812866
>Western simps are bigger paypigs than Japanese gachikois.
Yeah bro, can't wait til holoJP surpasses holoEN superchat number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
The boys aren't exactly isolated from girls, they just can't interact with hololive girls specifically. I justed watched a Roberu stream where he's flirting with some girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813195
Are the Stars just not entertaining or memorable enough by themselves compared to the girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813128
You do realize what keeps Pekora from being the number one female streamer in the world is Western simps right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813474
Oh you mean CCVs and viewing hours? Still no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
>Why do they treat the boys like lepers?
Because rather than purging unicorns in Hololive's infancy, YAGOO decided to nurture them via segregated worlds, despite every other streaming company doing just fine with a boy/girl world
Holo jap fans and most especially /jp/ Holo fans can not and will not ever allow for their oshis to speak to men without consequences.
Which, is weird, because both will swear up and down the road they aren't in a parasocial pitfall, and they want their girl to be happy....unless that happiness involves XY Chromosomes

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813474
>You do realize what keeps Pekora from being the number one female streamer in the world is Western simps right?
please I beg you anon please I will suck your cock just say you are just trolling

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813602
>they want their girl to be happy....unless that happiness involves XY Chromosomes
Yes, is that a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813602
Every Holo girl that wants to, already collabs with males and no one gives a fuck. Find a single one who wants to collab but doesn't because of her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813734
R-rushia definitely wants to do that. I-I swear, or P-pekora... I-I bet they talk to holostars behind the scene...

[Anonymous No.]

This is simple. Most of the girls dont want males. It was their choice to be like that. None of their viewers ever forced them to behave like that (and if you really think they did, watch streams you EOP faggot).

So pushing homos to the JP server or any other server is basically forcing you to have males in your streams, unless we are gonna start autistically pretend they arent there even though they fucking are

If this really is about letting the girls do what they want then how about sticking to it and not forcing homos to girls that dont want them? I swear a god EN really was a mistake if they start actively forcing the girls to interact with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813428
It's that anyone pushing male collabs for JPs are only doing so to harm them and to "crush le incel idol culture".
They don't give a single shit about any of the holos, including the IDs and ENs they claim to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17775543
Huke made a hacked OP bow that had fire enchantment for Kiara. Pretty sure that's what set the autists off

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813474
t. retard.
The only thing keeping her from being the #1 female streamer is that youtube aggressively culls viewership a million times more than twitch does and she doesn't do fucked shit like constant 24/7 restreams like the two twitch thots do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813602
Did Mikos gachis force her to say this?

https://streamable.com/mvxyuo

I bet you cant even understand what she is saying. If you did you wouldnt actually think the talents are forced into this situation by the fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813947
Based, now they will post image from 2018/2019

[Anonymous No.]

>>17812686
I’m aware of NijiID’s unity. EN seems to be taking it to a whole new level which was enough for Omega to notice and will try to emulate to one-up not only the HoloJP branch but NijiEN as well.
> >17812854
A main branch that’s steadily losing respect as EN/ID expand and try things JP wouldn’t even dream of doing. StarsJP even more so as they’ll be easily mogged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813602
>le yagoo
Meanwhile in reality it's the girls themselves that choose not to collab with men and several of them said they're opposed to it.
Oh, and "other companies" either don't give a fuck about their streamer and just pump out new members ad nauseam until something sticks like niji or are small enough to be irrelevant. Both still make far less money than the Holos to your neverending seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814039
>A main branch that’s steadily losing respect as EN/ID expand
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814039
>A main branch that’s steadily losing respect as EN/ID expand
Fuck off omegatranny, call me when the rest of EN collab with holostars, or at least Reine and Moona do one on one collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814039
>try things JP wouldn’t even dream of doing
like what? whoring themselves on streams?

[Anonymous No.]

pretty sure these beggars aren't homofags these are nijiniggers falseflagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>17813947
Kek pretty much.
Then there's others like Korone who talks about how she feels it's a betrayal for Idols to admit to having partners, Kanata who actively asked Suisei to remove men from a radio collab, Pekora who doesn't say anything but have actively rejected male collabs since the NND days, Rushia who is self-explanatory etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814039
Retarded indog.
The entirety of ID doesn't even make a fraction of the jp Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814039
Anon, StarsJP would be easily mogged because they don't have much of a fanbase to begin with. They have a small but dedicated one here for sure, but it's still not massive.
Full unity also wont work for HoloEN because people only watch Hololive for the females, not for any males like the Stars. If that weren't the case, the Stars would be doing much better on their own. There's also the fact that some streamers are in their own friend groups, and that's perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuckers who beg, cry, scream about unity and cry about discrimination need to look at who is bringing money to Cover and who calls the shots in the end.
Bad news for you. Its not the whores of EN and ID and no matter what they say, it is irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814259
So, any interaction with the opposite gender is considered “whoring” to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814792
The biggest whore in all of vtubing was conveniently cropped out right at the bottom as the next biggest Holomem and she's only growing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814872
>So, any interaction with the opposite gender is considered “whoring” to you?
pretty sure I didn't mention male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814792
Anon, Coco is no more. Has been no more for nearly a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814872
>So, any interaction with the opposite gender is considered “whoring” to you?
If they are GFE? Most of the time, absolutely. If they havent, then male collabs make them a whore 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815023
So male collabs are “whoring” to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814939
>she's only growing
not for long

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815061
Do you even know what the word “whore” means”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773258
It's the goddamn fujos who are fucking terrifying anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815054
so?
>>17814939
>shes only growing
someone should bring the graph from numbers thread were it was pointed out that every Myth members superchat numbers have basically been cut in half since their debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>17814792
>Kuzuha, a male at 9th and growing
>Mori at 10th, the bane of all unicorns and planning on sneaking all of Vshojo /TT through a Terraria server
Well maybe when they get to 5th/6th, Vtubing will be a dead fad

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-total

Also
>Staring at total instead of weekly or monthly

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815098
>>17815168
You cunts don't even watch the Stars, shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815168
By the strict definition of whore most of EN and maybe even plenty of JP are whores whether they ever collab with a male or not. Just be glad people are generally using a more restrictive definition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815098
I didn't mention any collabs in general

[Anonymous No.]

ENs and IDs will never be relevant thank god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783992
i'm sure all 10 homo viewers are part of that 4k

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815233
>Kuzuha, a male at 9th and growing
what is your point retard? No one is talking about males themselves here. No one gives a shit.
>Mori at 10th, the bane of all unicorns and planning on sneaking all of Vshojo /TT through a Terraria server
All of Myth SC numbers are down from their debut just so you know. Dont know what you are trying to proof with Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815233
I just noticed that site doesn't regard Mori as a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815554

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815642
Cant move goalposts if you make up the posts by yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815554
It doesn't matter if Myth's totals are down if their relative status is the same or higher. Last month Calli was 5th in Hololive if you disregard HoloX. There's like 60 Holomems, so 5th is not insignificant. She even beats Pekora in recent months sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17773084
Once again more people clamber to eliminate any form of boundary or border between the sexes, despite the fact they never can eliminate a naturally occurring phenomenon. Imagine just being a chill dude, hanging out and streaming with your guy friends and people nag and whine about how you have to collab with the girls and the girls have to collab with you because "sexism" or "discrimination" or "muh idol culture".
Let men have a space where they can be men and let women have space where they can be women, you self obsessive cunts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815787
>She even beats Pekora in recent months sometimes
yeah before the dramas

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815787
>Last month Calli was 5th in Hololive if you disregard HoloX
Calli was 1st if you disregard JP. I am out of words right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815787
I still don't see how one of them makes it so that EN/ID is getting bigger than JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815914
HoloX is the shiny new toy, you can't count any of their status as long-term until we see long-term results. Council's first months don't reflect where they are now either.

[Anonymous No.]

I have never hated americans as much as I do right in this instant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17816011
>implying holoX gachis just came out of nowhere and werent previously putting money for other chuubas
Shit. You really dont want streams at all. Typical beggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17815946
The person who first posted the list to make his point claimed their influence was irrelevant but the fact that the worst whore in the entire company is also in their Top 10 means her influence has potential to be very relevant. She already gets away with all sorts of nonsense because of her popularity. She's using her influence even now to actively undermine the company's image and nobody is trying to stop her, they are applauding her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17816083
Ollie is Indonesian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17816011
cope with your headcanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17816182
Indogs aren't the ones pushing this shit or pretending it's the way forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17816201
Ollie is. She is the redditor's biggest representative within Hololive itself.

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>>17816130
>She already gets away with all sorts of nonsense because of her popularity
umm...what exactly is Mori getting away with? Are you just trying to bait people now? It is already confirmed that management gave her a talk and there really is nothing else they would've done no matter who it is

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>>17773084
meds

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>>17816288
>confirmed management gave her a talk
That's a new rrat I haven't heard.

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>>17773084
dunno but hakotaro should collab with roberu already

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>>17816449
Saving it for Valentine's Day.

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>>17816130
She's only undermining her own image and maybe any EN who follows her stupidity. None of the JPs will ever be influenced by her no matter how much she implores (or bullies, if she ever goes that route), and she gives 0 fucks about the Stars when she keeps ignoring them unless they talk about her stuff while replying to every little thing Luxiem tweets. And no, her NY promise means shit until she actually does something, and considering not even a month earlier she used the excuse that she needed and idea for a collab with the Stars I can see her completely forgetting that she even had this as one of her resolutions.

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>>17816445
She said it herself but whatever. You are literally admitting to be a threadwatcher

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>>17816603
Talking to her is not the same as "giving her a talk", all talents talk with their management all the time.

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>>17816662
She didnt say that. Watch streams

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>>17816520
Not a single person is wary of collabing with her despite her being a dead weight around their necks. They still hype her even when she shits on them.

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>>17816130
Anon, that's not gonna happen. Mori has more of a chance of doing things she wants on her alt than she would in her current position at Hololive. If Cover barely budges at all even with all her subs and money she brings in, they won't budge much at all.
To add onto what >>17816520 said, if the JPs werent even influenced much by Fubuki and her collabs with the Stars, then they probably won't be influenced by Mori either. Thats just how Hololive's talents operate and that's how things will go at this point.

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>>17816751
Whatever she says isn't worth shit. Her actions show they never had a talk with her (as in, one that actually was critical). Or at least she ignored what they said.

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>>17816937
Now you are just making up things now

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>>17816811
Nowhere in my post I said people won't collab with her. What I'm saying is that Hololmem, especially JP, won't blindly follow her and do stuff they don't want since Mori has 0 influence inside of Holopro to change how things are. She'll keep interacting with the unfunny anitubers, replying to Luxiem and collabing with the Stars once every blue moon, but I guarantee you she'll be the only one doing that.

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>>17816114
Not the guy you're replying to, but from who each holox stole members?

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>>17777657
You're retarded if you think that's the reason. Unicornfags were looking for any reason to get him away from her. The weapon wouldn't have even done anything, either. It was non-functional.

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>>17818319
They steal from everyone but there even was an incident where Lamy cried because someone superchatted her that she is starting to watch Chloe and Pekora later said on her stream that when new girls come other members can get kinda scared of their fans leaving them so people should watch what they say.

Its obvious aint it? HoloX subs and gachis arent 100% new people, quite the opposite

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>>17818704
they are starting to watch Chloe*

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>>17813734
Ame.